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Kilosneology flying today03:55
KilosFetched 27,9 MB in 30s (917 kB/s)03:55
Kilosmorning nlsthzn  octoquad  captine  bushtech  bduk  and others05:56
Kiloswbb06:05
nlsthznalo06:17
magespawngood day09:59
Kiloshi magespawn  superfly  10:13
magespawnhi Kilos i am trying out irssi themes10:19
Kiloslol10:20
magespawnthere are a lot of them on the irssi website10:27
magespawnyou can change the look and feel10:28
Kilosif it can look and feel like xchat or konversation thats good10:32
magespawnno just the colours and such of the text etc10:34
captinehi all10:36
Kiloshi captine  10:36
Kilosi grfeeted you early i think10:36
Kilosgreeted10:36
captineisnt irssi console based?  I think i recall trying it as I wanted to be permanently on irc from a digitalocean droplet...  but i like pictures :)10:37
captineKilos, sorry, my machine is on as long as Eskom provides power10:37
Kilosnp10:37
captineso i may have missed it10:37
Kiloscheck my lekker 3g speed10:37
captineam using a "desktop" now and not a laptop10:37
Kilos[05:55:45] <Kilos> Fetched 27,9 MB in 30s (917 kB/s)10:37
captinetyring to get better balance by dedicating time to computer, as apposed to lugging laptop all over the house and not getting time out... :)10:38
Kiloshahaha10:38
magespawnhi captine, yes cli based10:38
magespawnyou do  need time out10:39
captineany preference here for nginx over apache2?  stuggle to get my head around nginx configs....10:40
captineKilos, how's the bazaar usage going?10:40
Kiloshmm...10:41
Kilosbazaar usage?10:41
captineI almost proposed it at work for managing IBM Cognos Rule Files, but am pretty swayed to GIT, due to it's massive uptake.10:41
Kilosoh the site thing10:41
captineweren't you using bzr 10:41
captine?10:41
Kilosthe fly is the man10:41
Kilosi rattle along behind them10:41
captine:)10:42
captinewhat site is that for?10:42
Kilosour ubuntu site10:42
captineah.  cool10:42
magespawni thought apache was the standard10:42
captineit is...10:42
captinebut nginx seems to be very light and fast10:42
Kilosits becoming a static thingie and who knows what else10:42
Kilosmagespawn  explain to him man10:43
captine:)10:43
captinewhat's the url.. ubuntu.org.za10:43
captine?10:43
Kilosi have it saved somwhere10:43
Kilospatience10:43
captinedont stress10:45
Kilosoh my its gone10:45
Kilosmagespawn  help man10:45
Kilosyou were also there10:45
Kiloswhere is he now?10:45
magespawnhere10:46
magespawnwhat do you need explaining?10:46
Kiloswhats our ubuntu link please10:46
Kiloswhats happening to our site is what you can explain10:46
captinei recall it being moved from php, or some other cms to a plain html file10:48
captinebased site10:48
captinenot sure if it is 100% plain html and css, or if there was going to be something using a markdown type tool10:48
magespawnsuperfly has generated the static site using nikola10:49
magespawnhttp://getnikola.com/ it uses restructured text10:50
Kiloswow i saved all that the other night and now dunno where10:51
captinenice.  i see it takes structured text or markdown10:57
captinewill be nice.10:57
captinewho hosts the site>10:57
captine?10:57
magespawncaptine i think the site is on a server owned by the clug11:02
inetprogood afternoon11:03
inetprocaptine: the new site is not quite done yet11:03
inetproyou can all get involved and help build it11:04
Kiloshi inetpro  ty for ariving in time11:08
Kilosarriving 11:09
magespawni need to learn structured text, before i try11:19
magespawnping 192.168.1.12011:26
magespawnwhoops wrong window11:26
octoquadmagespawn, http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html11:41
octoquadso I haven't been around for ages, what milestones or goals does ubuntu-za have for this year?11:43
octoquadmagespawn, I think this is better: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/rst/quickstart.html11:46
magespawnty octoquad 11:50
octoquadnp11:51
octoquadand online editor to mess around with: http://rst.ninjs.org/11:52
magespawnahh now that is cool 11:54
Kiloswe gonna get our site rocking octoquad  , you can help too also as welll12:37
Kilossjoe12:37
Kilossudo rm headache12:37
Kiloshi thoquz  12:47
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu_za12:47
thoquzHey, thanks.12:50
Kilosfirst time here hey?12:59
Kilostell us about yourself and if you need help state your prob and someone will advise13:00
Kilosadvize13:00
Kilosthat thing13:00
thoquzNo problems so far, I'm running Xubuntu 14.10 64bit at the moment until the next release of elementry OS.13:01
Kilosah you like elementary?13:06
Kilosi think its quite lekker13:07
thoquzI'll tell a little more about myself, let me know if I talk too much as I am unsure what you specifically meant by your question. I'm from the Western Cape, just finished matric, so now I'm taking a gap-year to decide what I want to study. I was going to do a internship at a computer security company this year, when I applied I received very promising feedback, yet it seems I made my decision to join them a day or two too late 13:08
thoquzas the position was already taken.13:08
Kilosaw13:08
Kilosshop around you might find another one13:09
Kilosor join our mailing list and ask if there is anything going with all them peeps13:10
Kiloshttp://bit.ly/MCOujZ13:11
Kilosand then theres hetzner that takes interns as well i think13:11
thoquzThere's another company that I should still contact that might take me in, they are more hardware based. I am a electronics hobbyist and recreational programmer. I love working with embedded systems, such as Texas-instrument's 16bit MSP430 series, I also design and do circuit board layout.13:13
thoquzAs for what my plans of studying are after the gap-year, I recently discovered UCT's "computer engineering" program that seems to have interesting subjects. 13:14
thoquzI'm on a few mailing lists such as the Cape Town python user group, Stellenbosch Linux user group and OWASP13:15
Kiloscool13:19
Kilosand where is a ububuntu list13:40
Kiloshmm...13:40
Kiloseveryday there is someone here that needs help13:42
Kilosnamely me13:42
thoquzI'll try, what seems to be the problem today?13:44
Kilostoday im ok  too tired to fight things13:49
Kilosmagespawn  you winning?13:51
Kilosyou supposed to greet new peeps when im asleep13:52
KilosMaaz  coffee on13:53
* Maaz washes some mugs13:53
inetproKilos: you don't have to fight 13:53
inetprohi thoquz13:53
inetprowelcome to #ubuntu-za13:54
thoquzThanks inetpro13:54
Kilosthoquz  he is one of our big guns here13:56
Kiloscant program or anything he says but fixes everything13:57
inetproKilos: don't come with stories now13:57
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!13:57
KilosMaaz  ty13:57
MaazYou are welcome Kilos13:57
thoquzSo I'm guessing you're a sysadmin? Are you two employed by the same company?13:58
inetprono13:58
Kilosoh inetpro  i seem to somehow have lost all my saved stuff on nikola and the bazaar thing13:58
inetproKilos: you see13:58
* inetpro told him he needed a backup strategy13:59
Kilosya the backup thing13:59
Kilosno man i saved it somewhere and forgot where13:59
inetproKilos: you have a folder called ~/Projects ?13:59
Kilosoh ya13:59
Kilosand should be a file for nikola and bzh or m or whatever14:00
Kilosmaybe i was on another drive14:00
Kilosbzr?14:00
Kilosbad head day14:01
inetproai! Sorry oom14:01
inetprothoquz: just stick around and try to help where you can and you'll make it far14:01
Kilosinetpro  keep ears open for a job for him14:02
thoquzYeah, at the moment the conversation seems to lack context so I'm a bit confused at all the references to names.14:02
Kilosthere were some with the dbnlug peeps but they wanted experienced  peeps with programming stuff as well too14:03
Kiloswb b ushyou hopping again14:04
Kilosai!14:04
Kilosbushtech  14:04
bushtechja Kilos ?14:07
inetprothoquz: our most important activity happens here once a month when we have our monthly meetings14:08
thoquzWhen and where do you guys meet up?14:09
Kilosinetpro  did you see my speed14:09
inetprowe haven't had major stuff going on for a long time, perhaps time to turn things around this year14:09
inetproKilos: yes14:09
Kilosdoes your 4g beat it?14:09
inetproKilos: yes14:09
Kilosoh wow14:09
inetproKilos: actually no, my bast was 2414:11
inetprobest*14:11
Kilos24?14:12
inetpro24Mbps14:12
Kilosso that 3mB/s14:12
bushtechbest I've seen out here in the bush is 9.9Mbps up14:13
bushtechlol14:13
Kilos24 is lots14:15
inetprooops, actually my best was 27.6 http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/111098939514:15
inetprobut upload speed still below 1Mbps14:16
bushtechoops sorry, mine is down14:17
inetprothat was with the antenna connected but I failed to get a consistent good signal14:18
Kiloshmm... im much slower14:19
Kiloshttp://www.speedtest.net/my-result/405095429714:19
magespawnyeah inetpro downloads are fast but never on the uploads14:19
Kilosupload 3.0814:19
magespawnthat is pretty good14:20
inetprothoquz: sorry I missed your question14:21
inetproNext Meeting: Tue, 27 January 20:30, Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2015012714:21
inetpromeetings happen here in this channel14:21
thoquzThanks14:22
inetprohopefully by then we have a new site up14:23
inetprothoquz: have you signed up on launchpad yet?14:24
Kilosand if you tweet you get a reminder if you follow @ubuntuza14:24
Kilosthats if the pro remembers14:25
thoquzSorry, I don't use twitter.14:25
inetprosign up on https://launchpad.net/ and joing the ubuntu-za team14:27
inetprojoin as well14:27
inetprohttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za14:27
Kilosthoquz  air been getting very heavy past hour14:34
Kilosai!14:34
Kilossorry14:34
Kilosthat was for the pta peeps14:34
inetprothoquz: have you used git or bzr before?14:35
thoquzYeah, I use git14:35
inetprocool14:35
inetprosome people still prefer bzr over git14:36
thoquzYeah, I'm pretty neutral to software choices, I'll use the first thing that works, if someone requires me to use another tool for the job I won't mind unless it requires a major time investment,  I'm getting tired of software wars causing stagnation and preventing innovation.14:39
inetprogood point14:39
inetprohmm...15:41
Kiloshmm...16:06
thoquzhmm...?16:19
magespawnMaaz hmmm16:20
Maazmagespawn: What?16:20
magespawnMaaz define hmmm16:21
Maazmagespawn: I don't know about hmmm. Maybe you meant hmmp or hmms?16:21
KilosMaaz  hmm...16:23
Maazhmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking16:23
Kilosthoquz  you'll see we a crazy bunch here16:24
Kilosbtw how did you find us?16:25
thoquzIs Maaz a bot?16:25
thoquzUsing the search function on my IRC client. I have not used IRC for months, so I wanted to check if there were any South African ones16:25
Kilosyip he is our python bot wqritten by our guys16:26
thoquzCool16:27
thoquzMaaz --help16:27
Maazthoquz: Huh?16:27
thoquzMaaz help16:27
Maazthoquz: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.16:27
MaazAsk me "help me with ..." for more details.16:27
thoquzMaaz help me with silly fun stuff16:27
Maazthoquz: I use the following features for silly fun stuff: bash, choose, coffee, duel, dvorak, fml, fortune, insult, mlia, morse, nickometer, random, redirect, rot13, saydo, tfln and werewolf16:27
MaazAsk me "how do I use ..." for more details.16:27
thoquzhow do I use silly fun stuff16:27
thoquzMaaz use morse16:28
Maazthoquz: *blink*16:28
thoquzMaaz use random16:28
Maazthoquz: Sorry...16:28
thoquzMaaz use random16:28
Maazthoquz: *blink*16:28
thoquzMaaz use rot13 Moo16:28
Maazthoquz: *blink*16:28
thoquzMaaz rot13 "test"16:28
Maazthoquz: "grfg"16:29
Kilosthoquz  morse is easy you just say maaz morse how are you 16:29
KilosMaaz  morse whats happening16:29
MaazKilos: Encodes as .-- .... .- - ...   .... .- .--. .--. . -. .. -. --.16:29
Kilosand the same in reverse16:29
thoquzMaaz bash echo hi16:30
Maazgood morning16:30
KilosMaaz  how do i use random16:30
MaazKilos: Generates random numbers. You can use it like this:16:30
Maaz  random [ <max> | <min> <max> ]16:30
thoquzMaaz how do i use bash16:31
Maazthoquz: Retrieve quotes from bash.org. You can use it like this:16:31
Maaz  bash[.org] [(random|<number>)]16:31
thoquzMaaz help me with south african stuff16:32
Maazthoquz: I use the following features for south african stuff: lotto16:32
MaazAsk me "how do I use ..." for more details.16:32
thoquzMaaz how do i use lotto16:32
Maazthoquz: Gets the latest lotto results from the South African National Lottery. You can use it like this:16:32
Maaz  lotto16:32
thoquzMaaz help me with calculations16:32
Maazthoquz: I use the following features for calculations: base, base64, bc, calc, distance, google, hash, ipcalc, nickometer, oeis and random16:32
MaazAsk me "how do I use ..." for more details.16:32
thoquzMaaz how do I use calc16:33
Maazthoquz: Returns the anwser to mathematical expressions. Uses Python syntax and semantics (i.e. radians). You can use it like this:16:33
Maaz  calc <expression>16:33
Maaz  <expression>16:33
thoquzMaaz calc 42/016:33
Maazthoquz: I can't divide by zero.16:33
thoquzMaaz calc (-42)**0.516:33
Maazthoquz: *blink*16:33
thoquzMaaz rot13 hal16:34
Maazthoquz: uny16:34
thoquzMaaz rot13 ibm16:34
Maazthoquz: voz16:34
thoquzhal reverse racecar16:34
thoquzMaaz nikometer16:35
Maazthoquz: Excuse me?16:35
thoquzMaaz define define16:35
Maazthoquz: Define \De*fine"\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Defined}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Defining}.] [OE. definer, usually, to end, to finish, F. d['e]finir to define, L. definire to limit, define; de- + finire to limit, end, finis boundary, limit, end. See {Final}, {Finish}.] 1. To fix the bounds of; to bring to a termination; to end. "To define controversies." --Barrow. [191316:35
MaazWebster]  2. To determine or clearly exhibit the boundaries of; to mark the limits of; as…16:35
thoquzHaaz help me with browsing the internet16:36
thoquzHaaz help me with browsing the internet16:36
thoquzIs there a delay with the bot?16:36
thoquzMaybe I should private message it, sorry about the spam16:36
thoquzMaaz rfc 232416:39
Maazthoquz: Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol (HTCPCP/1.0). L. Masinter. April 1 1998. (Format: TXT=19610 bytes) (Updated by RFC7168) (Status: INFORMATIONAL) http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt16:39
Kilosonly  when he cant find a reply he drags a bit16:39
thoquzI see I was typing in the wrong name16:40
bushtechMaaz does not equal Haaz16:40
Kilosbut he is on a server in germany so lotsa internet between us16:40
Kilosfor browsing the internet you tell him to google somethjing16:40
thoquzMaaz google bing16:41
Maazthoquz: "Bing" http://www.bing.com/ :: "Bing Images - Search the web for pictures, photos & images" https://www.bing.com/images/ :: "Bing Videos" http://www.bing.com/videos/ :: "Bing Maps - Driving Directions, Traffic and Road Conditions" http://www.bing.com/maps/ :: "Search - Bing" http://www.bing.com/?cc=gb :: "Bing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"16:41
Maazhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing :: "Bing (@bing) | Twitter" https://twitter.com/bing :: "Bing Plac…16:41
thoquzWhat VPS hosting are you using for it?16:42
* Kilos waves to superfly and family16:42
Kilosyoull need to ask tumbleweed  or cocooncrash  about that and they both been stolen by silicon valley16:43
Kilosbushtech  is jou boetie by jou?16:44
Kilosdie ou met die stert16:44
Kiloshehe16:44
bushtechhuh?16:45
Kiloslol bushtech _16:49
Kilosor you online from 2 places16:50
bushtechyep comparing irc clients to see which one hangs in there the best when my signal gets flakey16:56
Kiloslol17:19
Kilosonly the quassel hopping17:27
superflyhi Kilos\18:00
Maazsuperfly: By the way, magespawn on freenode told me "tell superfly thanks" 1 day, 57 minutes and 27 seconds ago18:00
captineembarrased to say I am going to use SMB shares instead of NFS...  Just cannot mount the nfs share..... 18:15
superflycaptine: NFS is WAY easier than SMB, what's your issue?18:26
captinei have a openmediavault server with an nfs share... trying to mount it times out...18:26
captinethe smb works no prob18:26
captinei will spend some time in the future to sort it.  Just trying to organize the folders for now18:26
captineso smb will be ok18:26
captineI beleive NFS works much better for network drops etc...18:27
captinewhich will be what i need it for :)18:27
Kilosnight all. sleep tight. see ya tomorrow18:34
thoquzGoodnight18:36
superflycaptine: I could never get SMB working properly18:38
superflycaptine: NFS, on the other hand, was simple18:38
captine:).  seems to be the other way for me.  The shares on on a web frontend of openmediavault (debian based distro).  Unity just browses the network and mounts the folder when i click it.18:39
captineno command line at the moment18:39
captineneeded18:39
magespawnright bed time, good night all20:33

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