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ochosicrap, for some reason no changes of the sliders are reflected by the xserver's settings anymore00:02
ali1234this stuff is a damn mess :(00:02
ochosiali1234: does your "xset q" correspond to the values you set?00:02
ali1234again... what am i looking at?00:02
ochosinah, it shouldn't be a mess, it was all working, so it seems it all blew up at once00:02
ochosie.g. "blank-on-ac" (if you're currently on ac) should correspond to "xset q | grep timeout" divided by 6000:03
ali1234yes it is00:03
ochosicause one is seconds (xset) and the other is in minutes (xfpm, cause that's easier to read)00:03
ali1234yeah the timeout is blank-on-ac * 6000:03
ali1234that is working okay00:03
ochosihm, weird. then only i have a problem it seems00:03
ali1234and same for the other sliders too00:04
ochosiwell, good to know i guess00:04
ochosithanks00:04
ali1234seems like everything is okay here00:04
ochosii was just about to work on xdg-screensaver integration for light-locker when i noticed the timeouts aren't changing for me, and i suspected mayhem00:04
Unit193Whoop, missed it.00:05
ochosilucky you :)00:06
ochosiwell at least i didn't have to go through xfpm's source00:06
ochosiali1234: do you have the "security" tab in xfpm settings already?00:07
ali1234no00:07
ochosihmm, mind to update xfpm to whatever's in proposed then?00:08
ochosijust to make sure that it isn't that00:08
ali1234okay... might take a while00:11
ali1234vivid-proposed right?00:12
ochosiyup00:12
ali1234still works fine00:16
ali1234got the security tab00:16
ali1234xfconf still isn't multplied by 6000:16
ali1234xset still shows correct values00:16
ochosiok00:17
ochosiphew00:17
ochosiguess i'll do the diff for xdg-screensaver when i get that situation here fixed00:18
ochosimaybe a reinstall is best00:18
ochosig'day everone10:28
ochosieveryone10:28
elfyhi ochosi 10:46
ochosihey elfy 10:46
elfyprobably no need - but can confirm what you and ali1234 saw 10:52
ochosiwait, we saw different things :)10:52
ochosiit didn't work at all for me but fine for him10:52
ochosiso if you see what ali saw, then we're safe10:52
elfyoh - I'll read again10:52
elfybut what I saw was ... 10:53
elfyset xfpm to blank in 5 10:53
elfylooking at editor - xfpm says 5 10:53
ochosiand xset says 5*60 ?10:54
elfyblank-on-ac in xfpm in settings - that says 5 - not 300 or 5*6010:56
elfyhttp://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-110115-105732.php10:57
ochosiyeah10:59
ochosibut what does xset q say?10:59
ochosi(should say 300)10:59
ochosi"xset q | grep timeout"10:59
elfytimeout:  0    cycle:  011:00
ochosieven after dragging the scale around?11:01
elfyseems so 11:13
ochosi:/11:13
elfynot sure what's up there - this is a clean install from friday11:13
elfyparole still mucks it up though ... 11:13
ochosiyeah, that's known/expected11:14
ochosii worked on fixing that last night when i noticed something was off with xfpm11:14
ochosii actually think i had the solution ready, but testing makes no sense when the screensaver settings aren't handled as they should11:15
elfymmm 11:15
elfyso I seem to not have the ppa version installed 11:15
ochosiwhat version of light-locker and xfpm is that then?11:18
ochosii'm still wondering whether i should do a clean install of 15.04 to see whether it's just local breakage11:18
elfyxfpm 1.4.2-0ubuntu4 and ll is 1.5.1-0ubuntu111:19
elfyppa is showing xfpm failed to build 11:20
elfyso - I appear to be seeing a different bug I guess11:25
ochosinah, i'm using the same version11:29
ochosippa version never built11:29
elfyyes 11:36
elfybut do you see xset not showing what xfpm is? that's what I mean :)11:37
ochosielfy: yeah, that's the problem i started to see yesterday (might've been there before, but i simply didn't notice)13:24
jjfrv8ochosi, fwiw, both my vivid machines behave as expected. Desktop with staging ppa and laptop with vanilla install from friday's daily.13:41
ochosijjfrv8: wrt what elfy and i discussed above?13:41
jjfrv8affirmative13:41
ochosihm13:42
ochosiand the version of xfpm and ll is the same as elfy?13:42
jjfrv8desktop is. I did not verify laptop yet but I will in a minute13:42
bluesabregood morning folks13:43
ochosihey bluesabre 13:44
ochosii wrote a patch for xdg-screensaver to support ll yesterday and then ran into the issues described above13:44
ochosii'm not really sure whether it's a problem with my install or whether it's more generic13:44
Unit193A wild bluesabre has arrived: A: Greet  B: Stab13:45
Unit193B13:45
bluesabrex.x13:46
* AgAu throws pokeball13:46
bluesabreochosi: I'm going to install vivid today, I'll see if I can recreate the issues you describe13:46
ochosibluesabre: well if you can't i'm happy13:47
jjfrv8ochosi, xfpm and ll versions same as elfy's on my laptop too.13:47
ochosielfy and i have both fiddled with our installs meanwhile13:47
ochosii can try to recreate that patch for xdg-screensaver and push it to a bzr branch so you can test that too13:47
Unit193I don't have ll installed...13:48
Unit193On the netbook I do, actually, and just upgraded to vivid on it too so I can test if needed.13:49
ochosiUnit193: that'd be nice13:50
ochosibluesabre, Unit193: feel free to give this a spin: https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xdg-utils/light-locker13:53
ochosiit's very minimal but should work fine13:53
ochosithe whole xdg-screensaver script needs a cleanup, but i'll have to coordinate that with seb128 next week13:53
bluesabrealrighty13:57
Unit193https://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xfce4-session/news/20150111T131834Z.html new upload.14:00
ochosibluesabre: you might've noticed on trello that i fixed all those gtk3.14 issues in the last few days, so greybird is ready to go14:05
ochosihopefully nothing dramatic will turn up14:05
ochosibut i guess it'll be fine14:06
ochosinumix is also mostly fine, although i have another commit for it14:06
ochosijust need to sync that with satya and then that's ready for 15.04 too14:06
ochosi(assuming that we'll stick with 3.14)14:06
Unit193Noticed Greybird, and thanks for looking at Numix. :)14:07
* Unit193 is reminded trello exists, and checks.14:07
Unit193bluesabre: I'd guess you saw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/menulibre/+bug/1361143/comments/3 ?14:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1361143 in menulibre (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Please release menulibre-2.0.6 to trusty" [Wishlist,In progress]14:12
ochosibluesabre: pushed fix to numix now, so that one is free to go too14:19
ochosiUnit193: have you seen/tested this? https://github.com/sonals/xfwm414:31
bluesabreUnit193: seen, not had a chance to address yet15:58
bluesabreochosi: so Greybird, Numix... anything else ready?15:58
bluesabreand I'll drop everything else from Depends15:59
bluesabreochosi: should this be changed to adwaita or something similar now? https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce/blob/master/elementary-xfce/index.theme#L416:01
bluesabreor perhaps: adwaita,gnome,hicolor ?16:02
bluesabreor flip those, not sure which is preferred16:02
brainwashochosi: I have not tested it yet, but does the light-locker support override the xserver management in xdg-screensaver?16:17
knomeochosi, poke me with the big commit on greybird again and i'll land it in albatross19:05
ali1234knome the gtk3.14 stuff?19:06
knomeit was something related to buttons iirc19:07
ali1234everything after 6f8013cf293f2484b1896bfaaa0a052c02b1f83b fix checkboxes and radios in gtk3.1419:07
knomeprobably 3.14 too19:07
ali1234https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commits/master19:08
knomebut ochosi knows the exact commit i'm talking about19:08
ali1234there's a bunch of changes for buttons19:08
ali1234this is the huge one though https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commit/b86b4ed3a9649b38b2f9fb2071fd187130dd8ddb19:08
ali1234and btw, i wrote a python script that does this automatically19:08
ali1234so ou don't have to edit every style manually19:08
knomeokay19:09
knomethen i'll happily leave it to you :)19:09
ali1234well, i don't want to maintain albatross, i'm doing orion19:09
ali1234you can have the script though :)19:09
ali1234http://paste.ubuntu.com/971367019:10
knomewell thanks.19:10
knomeif you run the script on the albatross css file, i'll push immediately ;)19:11
knomeand you'll get a cookie19:11
ali1234that is far from enough to make it work with gtk3.14 though19:12
ali1234there's plenty of other things that need fixing19:12
knomei acknowledge, but that's a start19:12
knomei'm not exactly looking to dig in to it very much right now, but later, who knows19:13
knomeand if i can get a biggish thing done, it's always a plus19:13
Unit193ochosi: No, what's the difference?19:14
ali1234knome: that first commit i referenced is already applied, i guess you just need the scripted one19:14
knomeali1234, probably19:15
knomeali1234, i don't know, which is why i was asking ochosi in the first place :)19:15
ali1234okay hang on then19:15
knomecheers19:15
ali1234looking at these css files i can see why they would want to use less or sass or whatever19:18
knomeyep19:18
ali1234https://github.com/ali1234/Albatross/commit/0f706811749639420f34aa8963e67f1ed55386ab19:19
knomecan you make a pull request out of that?19:20
ali1234done19:20
ali1234of course i'm not 100% sure what i'm doing19:20
ali1234i'm just copying what ochosi did on greybird basically19:21
knomeyes, that's what i would have done as well19:21
knomei'll check the sanity19:21
knomedone19:21
knomethanks again19:22
ochosiknome: we need all commits, not just a single one20:59
ochosithere is the big one which adds the .checked class, but the others are needed too20:59
knomeochosi, i thought you said it was done until that commit you pasted then20:59
ochosiyeah, but meanwhile more has piled up20:59
knomeokay20:59
knomeso everything after that?20:59
ochosiyeah21:00
ochosiUnit193: window-previews in alt-tab21:00
knomeoki, i'll look at it... some time21:00
ochosiyeah, first finish that "in development" wallpaper that has been "in development" for a while now ;)21:00
ochosi</irony>21:00
knomeyes, for example21:00
Unit193Ah.21:00
knomeand get a new phone21:01
knome:P21:01
ochosibluesabre: true, i'll try to remember that21:01
* Unit193 wants to get less git snapshots, and more dev releases.21:01
ochosiUnit193: yeah, same here. i just felt if you want work, there you go. make it available for testing via PPA ;)21:01
Unit193Might do, though on this specific computer I don't have the compositor enabled.21:02
ochosii don't think it's compositor-related21:04
ochosinight all21:07
* ochosi out21:07
knomehuhu, so early21:08
knomenighty21:08
knomehttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/vivid/revision/27921:52
knomeslickymaster, Unit193 ^21:52
Unit193Okay?21:55
knomejust for the laughs.21:56
knomeand, to remind you we have to upload a new version21:56
knomepleia2, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-website/xubuntu-website/docs-startpage/revision/1122:00
knomepleia2, that'd be http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-website/xubuntu-website/docs-startpage/revision/1222:02

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