[00:02] crap, for some reason no changes of the sliders are reflected by the xserver's settings anymore [00:02] this stuff is a damn mess :( [00:02] ali1234: does your "xset q" correspond to the values you set? [00:02] again... what am i looking at? [00:02] nah, it shouldn't be a mess, it was all working, so it seems it all blew up at once [00:03] e.g. "blank-on-ac" (if you're currently on ac) should correspond to "xset q | grep timeout" divided by 60 [00:03] yes it is [00:03] cause one is seconds (xset) and the other is in minutes (xfpm, cause that's easier to read) [00:03] yeah the timeout is blank-on-ac * 60 [00:03] that is working okay [00:03] hm, weird. then only i have a problem it seems [00:04] and same for the other sliders too [00:04] well, good to know i guess [00:04] thanks [00:04] seems like everything is okay here [00:04] i was just about to work on xdg-screensaver integration for light-locker when i noticed the timeouts aren't changing for me, and i suspected mayhem [00:05] Whoop, missed it. [00:06] lucky you :) [00:06] well at least i didn't have to go through xfpm's source [00:07] ali1234: do you have the "security" tab in xfpm settings already? [00:07] no [00:08] hmm, mind to update xfpm to whatever's in proposed then? [00:08] just to make sure that it isn't that [00:11] okay... might take a while [00:12] vivid-proposed right? [00:12] yup [00:16] still works fine [00:16] got the security tab [00:16] xfconf still isn't multplied by 60 [00:16] xset still shows correct values [00:17] ok [00:17] phew [00:18] guess i'll do the diff for xdg-screensaver when i get that situation here fixed [00:18] maybe a reinstall is best [10:28] g'day everone [10:28] everyone [10:46] hi ochosi [10:46] hey elfy [10:52] probably no need - but can confirm what you and ali1234 saw [10:52] wait, we saw different things :) [10:52] it didn't work at all for me but fine for him [10:52] so if you see what ali saw, then we're safe [10:52] oh - I'll read again [10:53] but what I saw was ... [10:53] set xfpm to blank in 5 [10:53] looking at editor - xfpm says 5 [10:54] and xset says 5*60 ? [10:56] blank-on-ac in xfpm in settings - that says 5 - not 300 or 5*60 [10:57] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-110115-105732.php [10:59] yeah [10:59] but what does xset q say? [10:59] (should say 300) [10:59] "xset q | grep timeout" [11:00] timeout: 0 cycle: 0 [11:01] even after dragging the scale around? [11:13] seems so [11:13] :/ [11:13] not sure what's up there - this is a clean install from friday [11:13] parole still mucks it up though ... [11:14] yeah, that's known/expected [11:14] i worked on fixing that last night when i noticed something was off with xfpm [11:15] i actually think i had the solution ready, but testing makes no sense when the screensaver settings aren't handled as they should [11:15] mmm [11:15] so I seem to not have the ppa version installed [11:18] what version of light-locker and xfpm is that then? [11:18] i'm still wondering whether i should do a clean install of 15.04 to see whether it's just local breakage [11:19] xfpm 1.4.2-0ubuntu4 and ll is 1.5.1-0ubuntu1 [11:20] ppa is showing xfpm failed to build [11:25] so - I appear to be seeing a different bug I guess [11:29] nah, i'm using the same version [11:29] ppa version never built [11:36] yes [11:37] but do you see xset not showing what xfpm is? that's what I mean :) [13:24] elfy: yeah, that's the problem i started to see yesterday (might've been there before, but i simply didn't notice) [13:41] ochosi, fwiw, both my vivid machines behave as expected. Desktop with staging ppa and laptop with vanilla install from friday's daily. [13:41] jjfrv8: wrt what elfy and i discussed above? [13:41] affirmative [13:42] hm [13:42] and the version of xfpm and ll is the same as elfy? [13:42] desktop is. I did not verify laptop yet but I will in a minute [13:43] good morning folks [13:44] hey bluesabre [13:44] i wrote a patch for xdg-screensaver to support ll yesterday and then ran into the issues described above [13:44] i'm not really sure whether it's a problem with my install or whether it's more generic [13:45] A wild bluesabre has arrived: A: Greet B: Stab [13:45] B [13:46] x.x [13:46] * AgAu throws pokeball [13:46] ochosi: I'm going to install vivid today, I'll see if I can recreate the issues you describe [13:47] bluesabre: well if you can't i'm happy [13:47] ochosi, xfpm and ll versions same as elfy's on my laptop too. [13:47] elfy and i have both fiddled with our installs meanwhile [13:47] i can try to recreate that patch for xdg-screensaver and push it to a bzr branch so you can test that too [13:48] I don't have ll installed... [13:49] On the netbook I do, actually, and just upgraded to vivid on it too so I can test if needed. [13:50] Unit193: that'd be nice [13:53] bluesabre, Unit193: feel free to give this a spin: https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xdg-utils/light-locker [13:53] it's very minimal but should work fine [13:53] the whole xdg-screensaver script needs a cleanup, but i'll have to coordinate that with seb128 next week [13:57] alrighty [14:00] https://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xfce4-session/news/20150111T131834Z.html new upload. [14:05] bluesabre: you might've noticed on trello that i fixed all those gtk3.14 issues in the last few days, so greybird is ready to go [14:05] hopefully nothing dramatic will turn up [14:06] but i guess it'll be fine [14:06] numix is also mostly fine, although i have another commit for it [14:06] just need to sync that with satya and then that's ready for 15.04 too [14:06] (assuming that we'll stick with 3.14) [14:07] Noticed Greybird, and thanks for looking at Numix. :) [14:07] * Unit193 is reminded trello exists, and checks. [14:12] bluesabre: I'd guess you saw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/menulibre/+bug/1361143/comments/3 ? [14:12] Launchpad bug 1361143 in menulibre (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Please release menulibre-2.0.6 to trusty" [Wishlist,In progress] [14:19] bluesabre: pushed fix to numix now, so that one is free to go too [14:31] Unit193: have you seen/tested this? https://github.com/sonals/xfwm4 [15:58] Unit193: seen, not had a chance to address yet [15:58] ochosi: so Greybird, Numix... anything else ready? [15:59] and I'll drop everything else from Depends [16:01] ochosi: should this be changed to adwaita or something similar now? https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce/blob/master/elementary-xfce/index.theme#L4 [16:02] or perhaps: adwaita,gnome,hicolor ? [16:02] or flip those, not sure which is preferred [16:17] ochosi: I have not tested it yet, but does the light-locker support override the xserver management in xdg-screensaver? [19:05] ochosi, poke me with the big commit on greybird again and i'll land it in albatross [19:06] knome the gtk3.14 stuff? [19:07] it was something related to buttons iirc [19:07] everything after 6f8013cf293f2484b1896bfaaa0a052c02b1f83b fix checkboxes and radios in gtk3.14 [19:07] probably 3.14 too [19:08] https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commits/master [19:08] but ochosi knows the exact commit i'm talking about [19:08] there's a bunch of changes for buttons [19:08] this is the huge one though https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commit/b86b4ed3a9649b38b2f9fb2071fd187130dd8ddb [19:08] and btw, i wrote a python script that does this automatically [19:08] so ou don't have to edit every style manually [19:09] okay [19:09] then i'll happily leave it to you :) [19:09] well, i don't want to maintain albatross, i'm doing orion [19:09] you can have the script though :) [19:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9713670 [19:10] well thanks. [19:11] if you run the script on the albatross css file, i'll push immediately ;) [19:11] and you'll get a cookie [19:12] that is far from enough to make it work with gtk3.14 though [19:12] there's plenty of other things that need fixing [19:12] i acknowledge, but that's a start [19:13] i'm not exactly looking to dig in to it very much right now, but later, who knows [19:13] and if i can get a biggish thing done, it's always a plus [19:14] ochosi: No, what's the difference? [19:14] knome: that first commit i referenced is already applied, i guess you just need the scripted one [19:15] ali1234, probably [19:15] ali1234, i don't know, which is why i was asking ochosi in the first place :) [19:15] okay hang on then [19:15] cheers [19:18] looking at these css files i can see why they would want to use less or sass or whatever [19:18] yep [19:19] https://github.com/ali1234/Albatross/commit/0f706811749639420f34aa8963e67f1ed55386ab [19:20] can you make a pull request out of that? [19:20] done [19:20] of course i'm not 100% sure what i'm doing [19:21] i'm just copying what ochosi did on greybird basically [19:21] yes, that's what i would have done as well [19:21] i'll check the sanity [19:21] done [19:22] thanks again [20:59] knome: we need all commits, not just a single one [20:59] there is the big one which adds the .checked class, but the others are needed too [20:59] ochosi, i thought you said it was done until that commit you pasted then [20:59] yeah, but meanwhile more has piled up [20:59] okay [20:59] so everything after that? [21:00] yeah [21:00] Unit193: window-previews in alt-tab [21:00] oki, i'll look at it... some time [21:00] yeah, first finish that "in development" wallpaper that has been "in development" for a while now ;) [21:00] [21:00] yes, for example [21:00] Ah. [21:01] and get a new phone [21:01] :P [21:01] bluesabre: true, i'll try to remember that [21:01] * Unit193 wants to get less git snapshots, and more dev releases. [21:01] Unit193: yeah, same here. i just felt if you want work, there you go. make it available for testing via PPA ;) [21:02] Might do, though on this specific computer I don't have the compositor enabled. [21:04] i don't think it's compositor-related [21:07] night all [21:07] * ochosi out [21:08] huhu, so early [21:08] nighty [21:52] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/vivid/revision/279 [21:52] slickymaster, Unit193 ^ [21:55] Okay? [21:56] just for the laughs. [21:56] and, to remind you we have to upload a new version [22:00] pleia2, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-website/xubuntu-website/docs-startpage/revision/11 [22:02] pleia2, that'd be http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-website/xubuntu-website/docs-startpage/revision/12