[00:01] <xubuntu78w> installed already xubuntu-restricted-extras, using a windows PC I can see the files, my xubuntu is a standard 14.04
[00:09] <xubuntu78w> As a workaround, I rip the files on a windows computer, put them on memory stick and continue to process them in xubuntu, but why can xubuntu not read the cd?
[00:18] <xubuntu78w> can't read windows audio cd (windows cd with files), it opens in windows 7 and I can see the files, but it does not open in ubuntu, thunar does not show files
[00:23] <brainwash> xubuntu78w: media players are not able to play the audio cd?
[00:24] <brainwash> I am not sure if you should be able to see files in a file manager, because audio cds contain data, not files
[00:26] <brainwash> !ripping
[06:11] <scottsdesk> Help with a non xubuntu question. I want to create a installation of a kernel from the latest stable at kernel .org and run xorg 7.7 as my gui. Just a basic bare bones root linux with a bare gui. nothing else. I want to use as a base for a restore system. Can anyone help me.
[06:12] <scottsdesk> Or the most bare already compliled system that someone reccomends will work also
[06:14] <Unit193> I was going to say something about TinyCore, but you just knocked that out.  In that case, I'm fond of SliTaz and AntiX for tiny systems.
[06:15] <scottsdesk> why did I knockout tinycore?
[06:18] <Unit193> Ah, nevermind then.  Anywho, that's all for me, I'm out.
[11:23] <aziz> when I enter "sudo sh" I used to get a nice root shell which I configured via /etc/profile but now I only get "# " as a shell string and cd changes to my user home directory, not /root
[11:23] <aziz> did I overlook something?
[11:33] <deshipu> just do ' sudo -i'
[11:46] <KeyboardNotFound> hi, I have xubuntu 14.04, how to disable automounting sdcards?
[11:49] <aziz> deshipu, thanks! gonna keep that in mind from now on :)
[12:11] <KeyboardNotFound> software for burning dvd?
[12:21] <deshipu> KeyboardNotFound: brasero, k3d, xfburn
[12:48] <bazhang> !info devede
[15:56] <lccadmin> The new light locke appears to shut my video stream off.  I've disabled light locker in settings.  Is that going to fix it?  Is there some other service I need to shut off bsides power management?
[16:05] <GeoMint> !alsi | GeoMint
[16:06] <bazhang> !alis | geomint
[16:16] <lccadmin> The new light locker appears to shut my video stream off.  I've disabled light locker in settings.  Is that going to fix it?  Is there some other service I need to shut off besides power management?
[16:17] <cfhowlett> lccadmin, move this #ubuntu         more eyes on
[16:19] <lccadmin> heh.  I figured they'd just tell me to come in here.  :)  I'll hang out here; I think I answered my own question, but was just looking for reassurance.
[16:20] <brainwash> lccadmin: disabling light-locker won't disable screen blanking
[16:29] <GeoMint> guys do you know why when i log in to my computer my mouse theme is not working correct ?
[16:32] <GeoMint> cfhowlett, any ideas?
[16:32] <cfhowlett> GeoMint, sorry, never had that issue.
[17:03] <GridCube> GeoMint, try; chmod +x ~/.Xdefaults
[17:09] <GeoMint> GridCube, it allows me to change to my choise
[17:10] <GeoMint> but in login it comes to a merge of default and my choise :/
[18:33] <xubuntu102> hello everyone
[18:34] <xubuntu102> is anyone here?
[18:36] <Alexfrench> hello xubuntu
[18:43] <baizon> hello Alexfrench
[18:44] <Alexfrench> hello baizon
[20:37] <sergio-br2> heya
[20:38] <knome> hello
[20:38] <sergio-br2> someone using f2fs in SSD ?
[20:38] <sergio-br2> hey knomw
[20:38] <sergio-br2> knome
[20:50] <brainwash> !someone
[20:59] <sergio-br2> anyone
[20:59] <sergio-br2> :)
[20:59] <holstein> sergio-br2: i dont think so, friend.. try a general linux channel, and #ubuntu ,since its not specific to xfce or xubuntu
[20:59] <sergio-br2> :(
[21:00] <knome> sergio-br2, you didn't even tell us what you would really like to know
[21:00] <sergio-br2> If it works
[21:01] <sergio-br2> or if you break your entire system trying using it
[21:01] <holstein> sergio-br2: heres some benchmarks http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_317_4ssd&num=1
[21:04] <sergio-br2> nice
[21:04] <holstein> i always say, if one wants stalbe, stick to the defaults in the LTS..otherwise, there should be a guide for nearly everything one wants to do.. and the risks are what they are..
[21:05] <sergio-br2> heh
[21:38] <xubuntu72w> hi
[21:38] <xubuntu72w> i need help
[21:38] <xubuntu03w> i accidentially removed network connections and audio control fromt the task bar what do i do
[21:39] <xubuntu29w> can someone help me with a problem?
[21:39] <holstein> xubuntu29w: just ask..
[21:39] <xubuntu72w> you can add it bac'
[21:39] <holstein> xubuntu72w: whats up?
[21:39] <xubuntu29w> ok hold on
[21:39] <holstein> xubuntu03w: you can add items back by right clicking on the panel, and adding them..
[21:40] <xubuntu03w> ik but i want the original ones
[21:40] <xubuntu72w> hi my mouse pointer stuck and does not move
[21:40] <holstein> xubuntu72w: i would try tty..
[21:40] <holstein> !tty
[21:40] <xubuntu29w> this is the problem i am having: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2260368
[21:40] <xubuntu72w> when using web
[21:40] <holstein> from there you can "sudo reboot", xubuntu72w , and see what is causing the issue
[21:40] <holstein> xubuntu72w: when using the "web", or flash? if its flash, try the pepperflash for chrome
[21:41] <xubuntu29w> i am trying to get my 40gb data partition to be read/write but i have somehow made it disappear
[21:41] <xubuntu72w> holstein how many time i reboot
[21:41] <xubuntu72w> and yes i added flas
[21:41] <xubuntu03w> its mot in the add new items
[21:41] <xubuntu72w> srry flash
[21:41] <holstein> xubuntu72w: pepperflash is what you will need, if flash is causing you issues
[21:41] <holstein> xubuntu72w: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[21:42] <xubuntu72w> ok i will check it, are u sure
[21:42] <holstein> xubuntu03w: what i usually suggest is, fire up the guest account, and just add *all* the items and see what they do
[21:42] <xubuntu72w> i think there is bug
[21:42] <holstein> xubuntu72w: no.. im not sure, since, you have not stated for me the answer to, is it the "web" or flash? if its flash, try the newer version, and you'll find out for yourself.. you can use http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ to see, factually, what version you are using
[21:43] <xubuntu72w> i downloaded it by xubuntu software center
[21:43] <holstein> xubuntu72w: its not a bug, if, flash is not working for you, if you are using the older version. adobe doesnt provide the latest version for you for linux.. you can try the pepperflash from chrome
[21:43] <xubuntu72w> ok thanks
[21:43] <holstein> xubuntu72w: sure.. so, as you will see when you visit http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ , you are not using the latest version from adobe.. if its flash causing you issues, try the latest version
[21:44] <xubuntu72w> GREAT SUPPORT FROM XUBUNTU
[21:44] <xubuntu72w> bye
[21:45] <xubuntu29w> is anyone else having the ext4 partition problem not mounting automatically, and when you do mount it is read only?
[21:45] <holstein> xubuntu29w: its read only by design
[21:45] <xubuntu29w> why?!
[21:45] <holstein> xubuntu29w: you would need to "chown" the new partition
[21:46] <holstein> xubuntu29w: permissions.. its not your users, and its for security and easy to change permissions, if thats what you want
[21:46] <xubuntu29w> what does chown do?
[21:46] <xubuntu29w> now i cant even see the partition anymore, it disappeared
[21:46] <holstein> xubuntu29w: like i mention in the sentence above, its gives you the permission you are wanting
[21:46] <xubuntu29w> i see
[21:47] <holstein> xubuntu29w: you could have broken the partition or drive, though
[21:47] <xubuntu29w> oh shit really?
[21:47] <holstein> xubuntu29w: i would start by, identifying what the device is, and if its removable, make sure you plug it back in, and its showing up in the file manager. then, its a lot like this..
[21:47] <xubuntu29w> i was taking advice from the ubuntu forums and did what they said
[21:47] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive#Create_A_Mount_Point
[21:48] <holstein> xubuntu29w: i dont know what you are doing. im just commenting the possibilities of "now the partition has disapeared"
[21:49] <xubuntu29w> i amended the sudo nano /etc/fstab file then saved and rebooted. gone
[21:49] <holstein> xubuntu29w: fstab is a completly different thing
[21:50] <xubuntu29w> huh?
[21:50] <holstein> xubuntu29w: thats for the partiton/drive to automount.. is that what you want?
[21:50] <holstein> xubuntu29w: you are stating, some partition (location, device not specified) is not showing up anymore after being automounted read only
[21:50] <xubuntu29w> yes, when i boot the computer i want my partition to work! thought this would be a no brainer after a clean install following all the steps
[21:50] <holstein> xubuntu29w: what partition?
[21:51] <xubuntu29w> a 40gb data logical partition on the same internal sata drive as my windows 7
[21:51] <holstein> xubuntu29w: its not a "no brainer" at all.. its not trivial, but, the guide i linked is actually the guide i follow for that
[21:51] <xubuntu29w> shouldnt a hard drive just work?
[21:51] <holstein> xubuntu29w: i would undo *everything* you have done, and refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[21:51] <holstein> xubuntu29w: they do, friend. thats not the issue..
[21:52] <xubuntu29w> why would i need my partition i just created for data be read only?
[21:52] <holstein> xubuntu29w: it did work, and as designed, where, your user for security reasons, didnt have permission.. you are addressing both that, and the automount
[21:52] <holstein> xubuntu29w: root created the partition
[21:52] <xubuntu29w> sorry, frustrated never had to do this with previous ubuntu
[21:53] <holstein> xubuntu29w: regardless, try seperating these steps up.. do fstab, if thats what you want, and then address the partitions
[21:53] <holstein> xubuntu29w: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. its the same in ubuntu
[21:53] <xubuntu29w> well it all started with trying to install a game on steam. i tried to tell steam to install to my new partition and it said read only
[21:54] <holstein> xubuntu29w: again, you can chown for that
[21:54] <holstein> but, now, you have a broken fstab to address..
[21:54] <xubuntu29w> well i dont know what any  of this means, sorry. like i said never had to go to these lengths with ubuntu. everything just worked.
[21:55] <holstein> xubuntu29w: this *is* ubuntu
[21:55] <holstein> xubuntu29w: it will not work any differently in ubuntu.. the permissions are the same that way
[21:55] <xubuntu29w> i know it is
[21:55] <xubuntu29w> but its definitely not!
[21:55] <holstein> xubuntu29w: please just undo what you did to fstab, and then decide what you want, and address the permission with chown
[21:55] <xubuntu29w> this is a huge pain in the ass, may just go back to microsoft
[21:55] <holstein> xubuntu29w: ?
[21:56] <holstein> xubuntu29w: we are just volunteers here.. i understand you are frustrated, but, this is a normal issue for operating systems..
[21:56] <xubuntu29w> not windows!
[21:56] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive outlines all the issues you are having, and how to deal with them
[21:57] <holstein> xubuntu29w: sure, and if you prefer windows, just use windows.. no need for threats.. we all hope you are happy with your computer
[21:57] <holstein> xubuntu29w: you want to add a partition, i get that.. but, the permissions are all you need to address.. not fstab..
[21:57] <xubuntu29w> i understand i appreciate your help, i do. thats not what they told me in the forums to do. im getting two different suggestions here
[21:58] <xubuntu29w> i did what they told me and it disappeared!
[21:58] <holstein> xubuntu29w: i am only giving the one answer. no suggestions..
[21:58] <holstein> xubuntu29w: the issus *is* permission.. chown will address that
[21:58] <holstein> xubuntu29w: i already suggested undoing what you did.. im sure the volunteers there mis-understood your query
[21:58] <holstein> they are volunteers as well..
[21:59] <xubuntu29w> i realize that
[21:59] <xubuntu29w> i just find it unusual that i have to give my own partition that i created permission
[21:59] <holstein> xubuntu29w: at least, you have no data on the new partition.. you can literally revert your fstab, delete the partition, and start fresh refering to the guide..
[22:00] <xubuntu29w> ok ill look at the guide thanks again
[22:00] <holstein> xubuntu29w: yes, its unusual, when coming from a mis-managed windows system.. but, even in windows, that is not the case any longer
[22:01] <holstein> xubuntu29w: in windows, one is now suggested to have an admin user. so, when new drives and partitions, and software show up, the "admin" gives permission.. or you grant the user rights. chown is how you do that in linux
[22:01] <zak_> is there a config file of sorts for ifconfig / iwconfig settings for wlan0?
[22:02] <xubuntu29w> ok got it. i have installed several drives into my windows system and didnt have to do anything. at least that i can remember
[22:02] <holstein> xubuntu29w: sure, and it may be, that your system is setup like that.. you are *welcome* to read about, and setup a linux system like that, but, its not recommended, or by default that way
[22:13] <xubuntu24w> Hi
[22:14] <xubuntu24w> I have got a BUG
[22:14] <holstein> !bug
[22:14] <xubuntu24w> My mouse pointer stuck when using chromium
[22:15] <holstein> xubuntu24w: when using flash? or just chromium?
[22:15] <xubuntu24w> holstein now i deleted adobe flash and installed pepperflash
[22:15] <zak_> where do I enter the correct MTU size?
[22:15] <xubuntu24w> and it happen again
[22:16] <zak_> apart from using ifconfig, that is
[22:16] <holstein> zak_: what are you trying to do? i havent needed to do that manually..
[22:16] <zak_> is there a .conf file I cant find?
[22:17] <xubuntu24w> holstein please help me i like this distro
[22:17] <holstein> !details | xubuntu24w
[22:18] <zak_> holstein, my rt61pci wlan card seems to need two settings added to keep a stable connection with the latest kernel, forcing the correct country code set for the wlan driver, and a custom mtu size.
[22:18] <holstein> xubuntu24w: make sure you are using http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[22:18] <holstein> xubuntu24w: see that you have the current flash..
[22:18] <xubuntu24w> system specification or what
[22:19] <holstein> zak_: if its just with the "latest" kernel, i would probably just file a bug, and use the older one, personally.. work with someone and try and get it "fixed"..
[22:19] <xubuntu24w> It is saying you have correct version installed
[22:19] <holstein> xubuntu24w: there is no "correct" version.. just the #'s.. what # is it stating you are using?
[22:20] <zak_> using xubuntu 14.10 32bit, kernel 3.16.0-28-generic. Recurring problem that goes back at least a couple of years, and several kernel versions
[22:21] <holstein> zak_: ok.. still, i would file the bug report, if there is not one.. i know, i'll use the LTS versions even when there is not a compelling hardware issue like that
[22:21] <zak_> workaround for now is having to enter two commands after each reboot
[22:21] <holstein> zak_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-mtu-maximum-transmission-unit-of-network-interface-in-ubuntu-linux.html is what i would use
[22:21] <holstein> zak_: set the commands to autorun..
[22:22] <zak_> enter the commands in /etc/rc.local, then
[22:22] <holstein> zak_: i would enter them where ever it takes to do the system specific edits i need to make my hardware work
[22:22] <xubuntu24w>  Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS Release:	14.04 Codename:	trusty
[22:23] <holstein> xubuntu24w: do you have current flash installed?
[22:23] <xubuntu24w> 32 bit
[22:23] <xubuntu24w> yes
[22:23] <geekstay> Hi everyone. I tried to modify, and create my own live-CD with the tutorial on ubuntu.fr. When I did it, and rebuilt squashfs, and if I want to install this distribution on a computer, does it install my own live-cd, or the default ?
[22:23] <holstein> xubuntu24w: what makes you think its *just* when you are browsing the internet that your cursor locks up? how and when and why does it lockup?
[22:24] <xubuntu24w> chrome hangs up and crusor stops but i can open things without crursor
[22:25] <xubuntu24w> there is a old threa
[22:25] <holstein> xubuntu24w: chrome? or chromium? you stated chromium earlier? one what content? what page?
[22:25] <zak_> holstein, my question is where would that be? Normally id use interfaces, but NetworkManager keeps its settings somewhere else :/
[22:25] <holstein> xubuntu24w: i dont need a "thread", i need *details* from your personal experience
[22:25] <xubuntu24w> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2000507
[22:26] <holstein> zak_: i would just add them to autostart.. since, there really isnt a place to deal with that..
[22:26] <xubuntu24w> That issue is same as mine
[22:26] <holstein> xubuntu24w: what is causing your particular machine to lock up? or is it just the cursor? can you still tty?
[22:26] <xubuntu24w> sorry for bad english
[22:26] <holstein> xubuntu24w: broad stroke your *exact* case here, in the channel, so that the volunteers here and myself dont have to read that link, if they dont want
[22:27] <holstein> xubuntu24w: what language do you prefer?
[22:27] <xubuntu24w> yes it is just cursor
[22:27] <holstein> xubuntu24w: how to you know its just the cursor? can you get to tty as i asked?
[22:28] <xubuntu24w> I can speak URDU or ENglish
[22:28] <holstein> xubuntu24w: im asking what you would prefer speaking, since, there are *many* ubuntu channels
[22:28] <zak_> ok thanks for the help, holstein
[22:28] <xubuntu24w> what tty as 1 asked
[22:29] <holstein> !tty | xubuntu24w
[22:29] <holstein> xubuntu24w: when the cursor, or mouse stops, for how long? does it start back up? is it frozen til reboot? what are the details?
[22:29] <xubuntu24w> i am using pc with 35 inch lcd tv
[22:29] <holstein> xubuntu24w: ok
[22:29] <xubuntu24w> does this is causing
[22:30] <holstein> xubuntu24w: is it a laptop?
[22:30] <xubuntu24w> no it is desktop
[22:31] <xubuntu24w> Intel core 2 duo with 1 GB RAM
[22:31] <holstein> xubuntu24w: i know, i would rule out the connection to the TV, i would plug a local known-good monitor in,a nd test, and share with this channel what causes what to lock, and for how long, and what i do when its locked to get the cursor back.. etc
[22:32] <xubuntu24w> when i lock pc it hangs
[22:32] <xubuntu24w> what pc do you have
[22:32] <holstein> xubuntu24w: what hangs?
[22:33] <holstein> xubuntu24w: i have many PC's..
[22:33] <xubuntu24w> are u using xubuntu
[22:33] <holstein> xubuntu24w: i am using xubuntu on many of them..
[22:34] <xubuntu24w> The screen hangs and i have to restart the session
[22:34] <holstein> xubuntu24w: i would just disable that , if i wanted it to be on the TV.. i have seen issues with the restoring of the session like that, with hdmi
[22:36] <xubuntu24w> ok i will try with moniter but this does not make sense that tv make cursor to hang
[22:36] <holstein> xubuntu24w: is it the cursor hanging? or the session?
[22:36] <xubuntu24w> and when i was using windows 7 everything was great but slow
[22:37] <holstein> xubuntu24w: you cant compare *anything* from windows, since, you are promised windows support for the hardware
[22:37] <xubuntu24w> BOTH BUT WHEN I LOCK THEN IT MAKES SESSION TO HANG
[22:37] <holstein> xubuntu24w: i would address them independently
[22:37] <holstein> xubuntu24w: i would share all details, for example, about one of those, and them move on to the other
[22:38] <xubuntu24w> can i show you by sending video
[22:38] <holstein> i still dont konw what you do to recover
[22:38] <holstein> xubuntu24w: im leaving
[22:38] <xubuntu24w> ok thanks for time
[22:38] <holstein> xubuntu24w: i would be glad to share with you a channel in your native language
[22:38] <xubuntu24w> do you have EMAIL
[22:39] <dman79_> i've been trying out linux distros in vmware before I get my computer out of storage and decide what i want.. and xubuntu was my favorite.. but i've noticed it was the only one that had a display issue in vmware where it mirrors the screen like split left and right is this common?
[22:39] <dman79_> well ubuntu also... but its the same other than unity of course
[22:39] <xubuntu24w> dman you can try with live usb
[22:39] <holstein> xubuntu24w: i do, but, what is your native language? you can PM me here anytime..
[22:40] <dman79_> good idea...
[22:40] <xubuntu24w> i can speak English well but not in writing
[22:41] <holstein> im not sure i know what that means, but, in default xubuntu/ubuntu, i have no experiene that i would say is mirroring the screen like split left and right
[22:41] <xubuntu24w> what browser are you using
[22:41] <holstein> xubuntu24w: friend, what is your native language? there are channels that i can suggest to you that speak and type it
[22:41] <holstein> official ubuntu channels
[22:41] <holstein> !de
[22:41] <holstein> for example ^
[22:42] <xubuntu24w> what i am not understanding
[22:42] <holstein> xubuntu24w: if you would tell me, for example, that you speak spanish, i could share with you..
[22:42] <holstein> !es
[22:43] <holstein> where, you could find a channel that is speaking spanish..
[22:43] <xubuntu24w> just for your ease i will send u 30 seconds video
[22:43] <xubuntu24w> i can speak urdu which is my country language
[22:44] <xubuntu24w> i am from pakistan
[22:44] <holstein> !in
[22:44] <xubuntu24w> mike
[22:44] <holstein> i would try there ^
[22:45] <xubuntu24w> ok im going there
[22:47] <xubuntu24w> there is no one there
[22:47] <holstein> xubuntu24w: you are not promised immediate activity from any channel.. its all volunteer based
[22:48] <xubuntu24w> ok but help me
[22:48] <holstein> xubuntu24w: no, as i stated, friend. im leaving..
[22:48] <holstein> xubuntu24w: you are welcome to use #ubuntu or PM me for when im am available for more volunteer support, as, my nick will still be logged here
[22:49] <xubuntu24w> ok bye do fun in usa i am in damn country
[23:49] <Nixus> hey
[23:49] <Nixus> anyone know why a program is smaller when I remove it than when I install it?
[23:50] <knome> if i understand the intention of your question correctly, that's because packages that the application package depends on are not counted on removal
[23:50] <knome> you'll have a possibility to remove those unneeded packages later though
[23:52] <Nixus> is there a way to delete the dependencies too?
[23:52] <knome> what are you using to remove the application package itself? apt-get?
[23:52] <Nixus> apt-get purge name of application
[23:52] <Nixus> or apt-get remove
[23:53] <knome> apt-get (--purge) autoremove removes unneeded packages
[23:54] <Nixus> what do you mean by the parenthesis
[23:54] <knome> if you want to purge, you can add the parameter; if not, you can leave it out
[23:54] <Nixus> ok
[23:56] <Nixus> also, is there a way to show all USER installed software, like games, themes, etc
[23:56] <Nixus> not xfce, xorg, etc
[23:57] <knome> apt-mark showauto
[23:57] <knome> sorry...
[23:57] <knome> apt-mark showmanual of course...
[23:58] <xubuntu24w> hi
[23:58] <knome> hello
[23:58] <Nixus> can I only show the main programs, IDK how to say it. so no dependencies and stuff
[23:58] <xubuntu24w> i have problem with xubuntu
[23:59] <Nixus> like xubuntu24w?
[23:59] <knome> Nixus, i don't think so
[23:59] <Nixus> ok
[23:59] <xubuntu24w> nixus thats for testing
[23:59] <Nixus> because if I install a program like lynx, it doesn't show up in the menu and I may forget that its installed