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[10:25] <HoloIRCUser1> Hello ✋
[13:23] <liam> Hi guys, I'm trying to set up Japanese input in 14.10, but all the guides I find are for vanilla Ubuntu, which has some "Language Support" setting unavailable in UG. Anybody know where I might find the equivalent settings?
[13:44] <mgedmin> my System Preferences has two different panels for Region and Language
[13:44] <mgedmin> one's upstream gnome, the other is ubuntu's
[13:44] <mgedmin> but then I also have gnome 3.14 from the staging ppa on my ubuntu gnome 14.10
[13:44] <mgedmin> (and I never tried Japanese input)
[13:46] <mgedmin> I can add a Japanese input source, switch to it using Win+Space, but then it acts like a regular us-english qwerty keyboard and I don't know what's wrong
[13:46] <mgedmin> (this was using the upstream gnome thingy)
[13:47] <mgedmin> the ubuntu thingy is installing extra packages for Japanese support
[13:47] <mgedmin> (fonts, ibus-anthy , locales)
[13:48] <mgedmin> now what?  I can add the japanese input source again, and again it doesn:t seem to be doing anything
[13:49] <mgedmin> other than replacing my apostrophe with a : and the like
[13:50] <mgedmin> ooh, I need to log out after installing japanese support
[13:53] <liam> Ahh, ibus-anthy might be it.
[13:53] <liam> I'm also on 3.14. 3.12 was heroically laggy for some reason.
[13:57] <liam> And my prefferences only has one tab for region and language, with very few options to do anything other than add keyboard layouts.
[14:06] <mgedmin> that looks like the upstream thing
[14:10] <liam> I miss the days of <=10.04 where the way to do everything was documented for GUI and CLI.
[14:21] <mgedmin> maybe it is?
[14:21] <mgedmin> ubuntu has these language-support-XX metapackages that should pull in all the requirements
[14:21] <mgedmin> (I just don't know where they're documented)
[14:22] <liam> Ooh, good stuff. Thanks, I'll look into it.
[15:39] <MrSavage> could i get some help with formatting ubuntu-gnome as a bootable usb?
[15:54] <liam> Sure.
[15:55] <liam> Are you running Windows right now, or Linux/OSX?
[16:14] <MrSavage> liam: I'm actually running ubuntu-gnome
[16:14] <MrSavage> liam: i'm trying to put it on my laptop
[16:19] <liam> Oh, okay.
[16:19] <liam> So you've a USB disk, an ISO, and you're running linux?
[16:20] <liam> If the USB disk has nothing on it, you should be able to do it this way:
[16:21] <liam> sudo fdisk -l # will show you your disks, and should let you know what label your USB has (e.g. /dev/sdc ; each partition on it will be numbered, e.g. /dev/sdc1)
[16:23] <MrSavage> liam: yeah
[16:24] <MrSavage> liam: it's sde1
[16:24] <MrSavage> liam: i tried using "dd" but it didn't boot and was saying something was corrupted
[16:24] <MrSavage> but my computer was able to read fine
[16:25] <liam> Once you know which disk it is, you can: sudo dd if=ubuntu-gnome.iso of=/dev/sdX # where X is the correct letter.
[16:25] <MrSavage> liam: I already did that
[16:25] <MrSavage> liam: my laptop won't boot the usb
[16:25] <MrSavage> is it because my laptop doesn't have uefi?
[16:26] <liam> This performs a byte-for-byte copy of the ISO onto your USB disk. Once you boot frm the USB, you should get straight into the Live-CD screen.
[16:26] <liam> Then /dev/sde is the USB itself.
[16:26] <liam> MrSavage: Hmm... Try using unetbootin to create it.
[16:26] <liam> Sorry, my internet connection is fucking shocking. Probably a lot of these messages are arriving late.
[16:26] <liam> Not having EUFI should make things easier. :D
[16:26] <MrSavage> liam: I tried unetbootin and it was giving me something was corrupted or unreadable
[16:28] <liam> MrSavage: what was it saying was unreadable? The ISO?
[16:28] <MrSavage> for unetbootin, i'll have to format and check
[16:28] <MrSavage> but for dd, the screen goes away too fast
[16:28] <liam> Also, has your laptop been able to boot from USB before?
[16:29] <MrSavage> for windows yeah
[16:31] <MrSavage> maybe it's because my laptop doesn't use uefi?
[16:39] <liam> The screen goes away too fast? What do you mean?
[16:40] <MrSavage> liam: it boots into windows
[16:51] <liam> MrSavage: But what screen are you talking about? I honestly have no idea what the problem is.
[16:52] <MrSavage> liam: it shows a black screen when i try to boot to the usb and shows a line of text
[16:52] <MrSavage> then boots into windows
[16:52] <liam> MrSavage: Does the text tell us anything enlightening?
[16:53] <MrSavage> liam: it goes away too fast for me to read it
[16:53] <liam> Okay... And this USB works fine on your PC?
[16:54] <MrSavage> alright let me check
[16:57] <MrSavage> liam: it wouldn't boot on my pc either
[16:58] <MrSavage> i used of=/dev/sde
[16:58] <MrSavage> for dd that is, is it because i didn't specify a partition?
[16:59] <MrSavage> liam: do i have to format my /dev/sde first properly to be iso or something?
[17:01] <MrSavage> also apparently i can't select a usb now for unetbootin
[17:15] <MrSavage> liam: with unetbootin i get a message saying "Failed to load COM32 file menu.c32"
[17:50] <semicolon> ,
[18:26] <liam> Sorry, was out.
[18:26] <liam> MrSavage: /dev/sde shouldn't have to be partitioned first. Whn you dd the iso, you overwrite the partition table with the table that's in the ISO.
[18:28] <liam> MrSavage: As for the unetbootin error, I have no idea. I've been using dd since I learned what it does.
[18:29] <liam> MrSavage: Maybe the guys in #ubuntu can help more. That channel probably has much more actvity.
[18:50] <VinceN> Good Afternoon,  Was hoping to get some help troubleshooting a new Ubuntu Gnome 14.10 install on VirtualBox.  I keep getting random lockups and I can't seem to find out why.  I've verified the Guest Additions are installed and the Driver is enabled, I've also tried searching with Google but was unable to find anything that seemed relevent to my specific situation.  Would anyone be willing/able to provide a little assistan
[18:55] <liam> VinceN: It could be gnome 3.12
[18:55] <liam> A lot of people have had something similar. My installation was insanely laggy on a pretty high-spec machine.
[18:56] <liam> VinceN: The solution for me was to upgrade to gnome 3.14, as shown here: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/10/how-to-install-gnome-314-in-ubuntu.html
[18:57] <VinceN> Liam: Thanks, How can I verify what version of Gnome I am running?
[18:58] <VinceN> Nevermind
[18:58] <VinceN> gnome-session --version got it
[18:58] <VinceN> Wow... I'm on 3.9.90 apparently
[19:00] <VinceN> y
[19:01] <VinceN> Ok, I thought I had selected the update in place option when I was installing
[19:01] <VinceN> Apparently I did not, I guess I should make sure everything is up to date before I start screaming for help LOL
[19:03] <semicolon> ;
[19:06] <VinceN> Been away from Linux for a bit, trying to come back to it
[19:06] <VinceN> Glad folks put this togeather.  I just can't make heads or tails of Unity, though Gnome changed alot since the last time I used it also.
[19:07] <semicolon> felt same as well
[19:08] <VinceN> Now is 3.12 in the main repository at this point or do I have to add the development source?
[19:10] <semicolon> i believe its updated to 3.14
[19:10] <octoquad> Hi VinceN, you can use the main and staging ppa's: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3 & https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging
[19:10] <octoquad> 3.14 is available in main under 15.04 which is still in development
[19:10] <VinceN> Awesome,  Just finished the system update.  Rebuilding my Virtualbox Drivers now.... Will try that once i'm done
[19:11] <VinceN> Forgot you had to do that after kernal updates.
[19:12] <octoquad> you will get 3.14 in the staging ppa as well for 14.10
[19:12] <octoquad> gnome-shell --version: GNOME Shell 3.14.3
[19:12] <VinceN> That's likely the safest bet since it will be built for the OS
[19:12] <VinceN> I would think............
[19:13] <semicolon> its working smooth for me until now
[19:13] <VinceN> On virtualbox?
[19:13] <VinceN> Or metal?
[19:14] <semicolon> on metal
[19:16] <octoquad> semicolon, what were you doing?
[19:17] <semicolon> octowuad: sorry, I didnt get you.
[19:17] <VinceN> Wow, Maybe it's just Chrome.................................
[19:17] <VinceN> System starts stuttering bad when its running.
[19:17] <octoquad> "<semicolon> its working smooth for me until now"
[19:18] <octoquad> VinceN, how much RAM have you allocated to the VM?
[19:18] <VinceN> A gig
[19:18] <octoquad> no enough
[19:18] <octoquad> need 2
[19:18] <octoquad> at minimum
[19:18] <semicolon> i tried to use nvidia drivers from additional drivers and it broke.
[19:18] <VinceN> Wow really?
[19:18] <VinceN> Man I am outa date.......
[19:18] <octoquad> depends on the hardware you running off
[19:19] <octoquad> http://ubuntugnome.org/ even mentions 1.5GB as a minimum
[19:19] <octoquad> :)
[19:20] <semicolon> so I moved on to bumblebee, now its quite well.
[19:20] <octoquad> semicolon, yes, bumblebee seems to work a bit better
[19:20] <VinceN> Thanks Octoquad.  Last time I messed with this stuff the bare OS would run on about 800mb to a gig fine without too many other programs running.
[19:20] <VinceN> I dunno why I didn't think that
[19:21] <semicolon> my system using 1.1GB right now with just hexchat on.
[19:21] <octoquad> hehe all good
[19:22] <VinceN> Pushed it up to 4 Gigs..... Wow this is much better.
[19:45] <VinceN> Logging off for a bit guys.  I think i'm going to stay on the Vanilla Gnome version for now.  Seems to be running fine with the ram boost.
[19:45] <VinceN> TTYL, Thanks for your help :-)
[20:07] <octoquad> No problem :) Enjoy!
[20:11] <JDAIII> I'm using a piece of software that requires libtiff4-dev however I'm on ubuntugnome 14.10 which replaces this with libtiff-dev. Does anyone forsee issues with installing 4 and 5 side by side
[20:36] <darkxst> octoquad, VinceN gnome-shell itself should run fine on 1GB but it doesnt leave much spare for other things like browsers etc
[20:39] <darkxst> JDAIII, the deb packages probably wont be co-installable but the libs should be
[20:57] <octoquad> hey darkxst
[22:13] <JDAIII> I guess that I will have to add the trusty repo in order to download that library. hmmmm