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dufluRAOF: Just installed a new vivid touch image and there's a little bit on 0.9 with the new 0.1006:40
dufluLooks like another dependencies fix?06:40
duflulittle bit *of* 0.906:41
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Saviqduflu, FYI, I bumped changelog in the 0.8 backport, too (to be able to depend on it)09:27
dufluSaviq: Thanks. I think there are one or two other fixes in 0.8.1, did you notice?09:27
Saviqduflu, did not09:27
dufluSaviq: Yeah one landed already and others we should consider: https://launchpad.net/mir/+milestone/0.8.109:28
Saviqduflu, that might be a problem for the rtm release, we only want very targeted fixes in there (unless all of those are supposed to go into rtm?)09:29
dufluSaviq: Yeah, ask the higher powers that be09:29
dufluThey look important09:30
Saviqduflu, they should have a https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/ then09:30
Saviqtask09:30
dufluSaviq: Sure, but camako/kgunn would prefer to be the deciders09:31
dufluSo long as someone tells them... or else they're likely to not notice the other bugs09:32
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Saviqyeah, ok, I'll continue as if the one bug landed and the new one are accepted, will talk to them when their timezone gets up09:34
alan_galf_: happy & healthy new year09:35
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alf_alan_g: thanks, you too!10:20
mlankhorstdo we have the es2 manual somewhere?10:31
alf_mlankhorst: (In case you haven't found it yet) https://www.khronos.org/registry/gles/12:12
mlankhorstyeah i think i found something like that, and found what i was looking for, thanks ;)12:15
mlankhorstwas curious why glamor with the ES2 backend was disabling GL_ALPHA for alpha pictures. I re-enabled it again and things now owrk..12:16
mlankhorstoh12:18
mlankhorst    Disable A8 texture format for GLES2.12:18
mlankhorst    12:18
mlankhorst    As PVR's GLES2 implementation doesn't support A8 texture as12:18
mlankhorst    rendering target, we disable it for now.12:18
mlankhorstfigures12:18
Saviqfolks, we're getting a build failure of the prompt session backports, any idea what's wrong http://paste.ubuntu.com/9718106/ ?12:42
Saviqthe silo is http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu-rtm&q=landing-01812:42
alan_gSaviq: looks like a Mir API update to PromptSessionListener needs corresponding changes to PromptSessionListener12:45
alan_gin qtmir I presume12:45
Saviqalan_g, well, yeah, that's what https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/qtmir/rtm-14.09-staging/+merge/244580 does - and that's what fails the build...12:46
Saviqah hmm12:46
Saviqalan_g, I see now12:47
Saviqalan_g, the relevant changes were split between two MPs on our side, sorry for the noise12:47
alan_gnp12:47
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alan_gI know it illustrates we're not where we want to be but does anyone have a reason why landing this first and then improving the API would be a bad idea? https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/improved-tiling-window-mamagement/+merge/24599414:38
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kdubalf_, anpok  welcome back!15:59
kdubalf_, in mgm::Display we register_fd_handler(), but I don't see the unregistration... is that something to be added?15:59
* kdub is trying to figure out if android is okay not to unregister the display change handler as well16:00
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alf_kdub: Hi! Yes, we could/should add this. It's not there because it was not needed under normal usage (both display and ML are torn down).16:06
kgunnalf \o/ welcome back!16:09
kgunnanpok:  \o/ welcome back!16:09
alf_kgunn: \o Hi!16:12
alf_kgunn: HNY + 12!16:12
kgunn;)16:13
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racarr_Good morning17:17
alan_gGood evening17:18
kdubcan we just rm proving_server?17:33
racarr_:) I still support that....17:35
racarr_I kind of want to guess the outcome of the MP17:36
racarr_and put it in a sealed envelope17:36
racarr_:p17:36
racarr_kdub: I think there is a pretty strong argument that its a negtive because it pulls on the interfaces but not realistically17:37
racarr_but then we have to take on the burden of not breaking it17:37
racarr_updating it17:37
racarr_reviewing changes to it17:37
racarr_manually testing it17:37
kdubright, exactly... maybe in a bit17:38
racarr_yeah its easier once example-window-management is a little more complete I guess17:38
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kgunncamako: is citrain device-upgrade still busted? (packaging)19:08
kgunnjust checkin' before i try...(flashing atm)19:09
camakokgunn, I haven't tried but it probably is20:20
camakokgunn, dist-upgrade works20:21
kgunncamako: i didn't bother...just dist-upgraded20:21
camakokgunn, RAOF didn't agree with Robru's analysis20:21
camakothat anything is broken20:21
camakoon mir side20:21
camakokgunn, let's talk about it tonight20:21
camakowith the aussies20:21
kgunnack20:21
kgunncamako: would you be utterly disappointed if i missed tonight?20:22
camakokgunn, I'd be devastated20:23
camako:-)20:23
mhall119I've found that after a day of heavy use, especially loading a lot of images in my app (uReadIt) that screen movement gets choppy, predominately in the lower half of the screen20:37
mhall119is there a known bug for graphical glitches/tearing on the Nexus 4?20:37
mhall119kgunn: ^^20:37
kgunnkdub: you ever see this? ^20:37
mhall119I haven't tried screen-recording it yet, since it may not show up in a recording if it's a driver issue20:37
kgunnmhall119: actually just recording with another camera might give clues...20:38
kdubkgunn, I haven't seen that issue20:38
kgunnmhall119: some people say "tearing" which may or may not fit a typical graphics dude's definition20:38
mhall119ok, I just rebooted (new revision!) so I'll have to wait until it starts acting up again, usually does it at least once a day20:39
kgunnmhall119: do you ever see it with anything else ? i mean if it tears via the app....if you switch to another app20:39
kgunndoes the tearing continue ?20:39
greyback_there was a report of such visual glitching during the sprint in Washington20:39
mhall119kgunn: yeah, I don't know the proper terms, it looks like random rectangles of screen are being re-painted a fraction of a second behind others20:39
greyback_yep, exactly that. I've seen that20:40
mhall119kgunn: once it starts it does it on everything, apps, shell, etc20:40
mhall119I can't recall if it does it on the lock/welcome screen20:40
mhall119lock screen doesn't really move enough to notice if it did20:40
greyback_https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1383745 <- this bug was reported20:40
ubot5Launchpad bug 1383745 in Mir "[mako] screen corruption/tearing after using the device for medium durations" [Medium,New]20:40
greyback_Andrew (community guy who reported it) showed it to me on his N4.20:41
greyback_I've never noticed it with my N4 however20:41
kgunnmhall119: does that uReadIt seem to help make it happen ?20:41
mhall119greyback_: that's exactly it!20:41
mhall119kgunn: I don't know, but it's one of my most heavily used apps20:41
mhall119it's also loading/unloading/moving a lot of images, which is part of the reason I suspect it triggersis20:42
mhall119triggers it20:42
kgunnmhall119: does anything make it "recover" ? or once it starts tearing continues thru reboot ?20:43
kgunnor rather reboot i assume fixes it, but it will continue until you reboot ?20:43
kgunn..geeze my grammar is awful20:44
greyback_I recall the Mir team suspecting it was a GPU driver bug, or Mir not using fences quite correctly. You see the tiles that the GPU memory is broken up into20:44
greyback_as if buffer swap is only half done20:44
kgunnright...i do recall the fellow showing us20:44
mhall119kgunn: only a reboot seems to help20:44
kgunnof course kdub was on baby-watch 2014 :)20:44
mhall119kgunn: I've tried closing all apps, locking, unlocking, etc, nothing helps20:44
kdubrestarting lightdm?20:45
mhall119haven't tried that yet, just sudo restart lightdm?20:45
kdubshould work20:45
kgunnkdub: but won't that reset the gl context anyway ?20:46
kgunnor what would lightdm restart tell you? or separate out ?20:46
kdubsure, but if its a kernel driver leak, then it'll come back20:46
kgunnah20:47
kdubif its a userspace driver leak or a mir leak, it won't have glitches on restart20:47
kdubsounds like a resource problem at the moment20:47
kgunnuserspace== all the proprietary gpu mapping stuff...20:47
kgunnyeah20:47
mhall119kdub: I'll try that if it happens again20:49
ahayzenmhall119, i used to have that screen tearing alot around the DC sprint...but i haven't seen it recently on my device, it was usually triggered/noticed when i entered the spread for me20:58
ahayzenmhall119, but i could just be restarting my device too often to see it20:58
mhall119ahayzen: what channel do you use?20:59
ahayzenmhall119, rtm proposed20:59
ahayzenmhall119, so i'm a bit infront of you20:59

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