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duflu | RAOF: Just installed a new vivid touch image and there's a little bit on 0.9 with the new 0.10 | 06:40 |
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duflu | Looks like another dependencies fix? | 06:40 |
duflu | little bit *of* 0.9 | 06:41 |
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Saviq | duflu, FYI, I bumped changelog in the 0.8 backport, too (to be able to depend on it) | 09:27 |
duflu | Saviq: Thanks. I think there are one or two other fixes in 0.8.1, did you notice? | 09:27 |
Saviq | duflu, did not | 09:27 |
duflu | Saviq: Yeah one landed already and others we should consider: https://launchpad.net/mir/+milestone/0.8.1 | 09:28 |
Saviq | duflu, that might be a problem for the rtm release, we only want very targeted fixes in there (unless all of those are supposed to go into rtm?) | 09:29 |
duflu | Saviq: Yeah, ask the higher powers that be | 09:29 |
duflu | They look important | 09:30 |
Saviq | duflu, they should have a https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/ then | 09:30 |
Saviq | task | 09:30 |
duflu | Saviq: Sure, but camako/kgunn would prefer to be the deciders | 09:31 |
duflu | So long as someone tells them... or else they're likely to not notice the other bugs | 09:32 |
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Saviq | yeah, ok, I'll continue as if the one bug landed and the new one are accepted, will talk to them when their timezone gets up | 09:34 |
alan_g | alf_: happy & healthy new year | 09:35 |
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alf_ | alan_g: thanks, you too! | 10:20 |
mlankhorst | do we have the es2 manual somewhere? | 10:31 |
alf_ | mlankhorst: (In case you haven't found it yet) https://www.khronos.org/registry/gles/ | 12:12 |
mlankhorst | yeah i think i found something like that, and found what i was looking for, thanks ;) | 12:15 |
mlankhorst | was curious why glamor with the ES2 backend was disabling GL_ALPHA for alpha pictures. I re-enabled it again and things now owrk.. | 12:16 |
mlankhorst | oh | 12:18 |
mlankhorst | Disable A8 texture format for GLES2. | 12:18 |
mlankhorst | 12:18 | |
mlankhorst | As PVR's GLES2 implementation doesn't support A8 texture as | 12:18 |
mlankhorst | rendering target, we disable it for now. | 12:18 |
mlankhorst | figures | 12:18 |
Saviq | folks, we're getting a build failure of the prompt session backports, any idea what's wrong http://paste.ubuntu.com/9718106/ ? | 12:42 |
Saviq | the silo is http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu-rtm&q=landing-018 | 12:42 |
alan_g | Saviq: looks like a Mir API update to PromptSessionListener needs corresponding changes to PromptSessionListener | 12:45 |
alan_g | in qtmir I presume | 12:45 |
Saviq | alan_g, well, yeah, that's what https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/qtmir/rtm-14.09-staging/+merge/244580 does - and that's what fails the build... | 12:46 |
Saviq | ah hmm | 12:46 |
Saviq | alan_g, I see now | 12:47 |
Saviq | alan_g, the relevant changes were split between two MPs on our side, sorry for the noise | 12:47 |
alan_g | np | 12:47 |
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alan_g | I know it illustrates we're not where we want to be but does anyone have a reason why landing this first and then improving the API would be a bad idea? https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/improved-tiling-window-mamagement/+merge/245994 | 14:38 |
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kdub | alf_, anpok welcome back! | 15:59 |
kdub | alf_, in mgm::Display we register_fd_handler(), but I don't see the unregistration... is that something to be added? | 15:59 |
* kdub is trying to figure out if android is okay not to unregister the display change handler as well | 16:00 | |
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alf_ | kdub: Hi! Yes, we could/should add this. It's not there because it was not needed under normal usage (both display and ML are torn down). | 16:06 |
kgunn | alf \o/ welcome back! | 16:09 |
kgunn | anpok: \o/ welcome back! | 16:09 |
alf_ | kgunn: \o Hi! | 16:12 |
alf_ | kgunn: HNY + 12! | 16:12 |
kgunn | ;) | 16:13 |
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racarr_ | Good morning | 17:17 |
alan_g | Good evening | 17:18 |
kdub | can we just rm proving_server? | 17:33 |
racarr_ | :) I still support that.... | 17:35 |
racarr_ | I kind of want to guess the outcome of the MP | 17:36 |
racarr_ | and put it in a sealed envelope | 17:36 |
racarr_ | :p | 17:36 |
racarr_ | kdub: I think there is a pretty strong argument that its a negtive because it pulls on the interfaces but not realistically | 17:37 |
racarr_ | but then we have to take on the burden of not breaking it | 17:37 |
racarr_ | updating it | 17:37 |
racarr_ | reviewing changes to it | 17:37 |
racarr_ | manually testing it | 17:37 |
kdub | right, exactly... maybe in a bit | 17:38 |
racarr_ | yeah its easier once example-window-management is a little more complete I guess | 17:38 |
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kgunn | camako: is citrain device-upgrade still busted? (packaging) | 19:08 |
kgunn | just checkin' before i try...(flashing atm) | 19:09 |
camako | kgunn, I haven't tried but it probably is | 20:20 |
camako | kgunn, dist-upgrade works | 20:21 |
kgunn | camako: i didn't bother...just dist-upgraded | 20:21 |
camako | kgunn, RAOF didn't agree with Robru's analysis | 20:21 |
camako | that anything is broken | 20:21 |
camako | on mir side | 20:21 |
camako | kgunn, let's talk about it tonight | 20:21 |
camako | with the aussies | 20:21 |
kgunn | ack | 20:21 |
kgunn | camako: would you be utterly disappointed if i missed tonight? | 20:22 |
camako | kgunn, I'd be devastated | 20:23 |
camako | :-) | 20:23 |
mhall119 | I've found that after a day of heavy use, especially loading a lot of images in my app (uReadIt) that screen movement gets choppy, predominately in the lower half of the screen | 20:37 |
mhall119 | is there a known bug for graphical glitches/tearing on the Nexus 4? | 20:37 |
mhall119 | kgunn: ^^ | 20:37 |
kgunn | kdub: you ever see this? ^ | 20:37 |
mhall119 | I haven't tried screen-recording it yet, since it may not show up in a recording if it's a driver issue | 20:37 |
kgunn | mhall119: actually just recording with another camera might give clues... | 20:38 |
kdub | kgunn, I haven't seen that issue | 20:38 |
kgunn | mhall119: some people say "tearing" which may or may not fit a typical graphics dude's definition | 20:38 |
mhall119 | ok, I just rebooted (new revision!) so I'll have to wait until it starts acting up again, usually does it at least once a day | 20:39 |
kgunn | mhall119: do you ever see it with anything else ? i mean if it tears via the app....if you switch to another app | 20:39 |
kgunn | does the tearing continue ? | 20:39 |
greyback_ | there was a report of such visual glitching during the sprint in Washington | 20:39 |
mhall119 | kgunn: yeah, I don't know the proper terms, it looks like random rectangles of screen are being re-painted a fraction of a second behind others | 20:39 |
greyback_ | yep, exactly that. I've seen that | 20:40 |
mhall119 | kgunn: once it starts it does it on everything, apps, shell, etc | 20:40 |
mhall119 | I can't recall if it does it on the lock/welcome screen | 20:40 |
mhall119 | lock screen doesn't really move enough to notice if it did | 20:40 |
greyback_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1383745 <- this bug was reported | 20:40 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1383745 in Mir "[mako] screen corruption/tearing after using the device for medium durations" [Medium,New] | 20:40 |
greyback_ | Andrew (community guy who reported it) showed it to me on his N4. | 20:41 |
greyback_ | I've never noticed it with my N4 however | 20:41 |
kgunn | mhall119: does that uReadIt seem to help make it happen ? | 20:41 |
mhall119 | greyback_: that's exactly it! | 20:41 |
mhall119 | kgunn: I don't know, but it's one of my most heavily used apps | 20:41 |
mhall119 | it's also loading/unloading/moving a lot of images, which is part of the reason I suspect it triggersis | 20:42 |
mhall119 | triggers it | 20:42 |
kgunn | mhall119: does anything make it "recover" ? or once it starts tearing continues thru reboot ? | 20:43 |
kgunn | or rather reboot i assume fixes it, but it will continue until you reboot ? | 20:43 |
kgunn | ..geeze my grammar is awful | 20:44 |
greyback_ | I recall the Mir team suspecting it was a GPU driver bug, or Mir not using fences quite correctly. You see the tiles that the GPU memory is broken up into | 20:44 |
greyback_ | as if buffer swap is only half done | 20:44 |
kgunn | right...i do recall the fellow showing us | 20:44 |
mhall119 | kgunn: only a reboot seems to help | 20:44 |
kgunn | of course kdub was on baby-watch 2014 :) | 20:44 |
mhall119 | kgunn: I've tried closing all apps, locking, unlocking, etc, nothing helps | 20:44 |
kdub | restarting lightdm? | 20:45 |
mhall119 | haven't tried that yet, just sudo restart lightdm? | 20:45 |
kdub | should work | 20:45 |
kgunn | kdub: but won't that reset the gl context anyway ? | 20:46 |
kgunn | or what would lightdm restart tell you? or separate out ? | 20:46 |
kdub | sure, but if its a kernel driver leak, then it'll come back | 20:46 |
kgunn | ah | 20:47 |
kdub | if its a userspace driver leak or a mir leak, it won't have glitches on restart | 20:47 |
kdub | sounds like a resource problem at the moment | 20:47 |
kgunn | userspace== all the proprietary gpu mapping stuff... | 20:47 |
kgunn | yeah | 20:47 |
mhall119 | kdub: I'll try that if it happens again | 20:49 |
ahayzen | mhall119, i used to have that screen tearing alot around the DC sprint...but i haven't seen it recently on my device, it was usually triggered/noticed when i entered the spread for me | 20:58 |
ahayzen | mhall119, but i could just be restarting my device too often to see it | 20:58 |
mhall119 | ahayzen: what channel do you use? | 20:59 |
ahayzen | mhall119, rtm proposed | 20:59 |
ahayzen | mhall119, so i'm a bit infront of you | 20:59 |
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