| Valduare | hows it going | 00:44 |
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| BrokenScreen | Hey everyone | 01:37 |
| BrokenScreen | I just install Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7 2013 that has a broken screen. Now I am stuck on "the first time user-Chose a Language screen" and can not select anything because the screen and digitizer are broken. I tried plugging in a mouse with a OTG cable but no mouse cursor appears. Any Ideas? | 01:41 |
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| nhaines | BrokenScreen: you're going to need a working Nexus 7. Ubuntu doesn't support mice on phone or tablet. | 01:46 |
| BrokenScreen | oh bummer... Thank you for the reply... | 01:48 |
| BrokenScreen | So there is absolutely nothing I can do yeah? | 01:48 |
| nhaines | Not that I know of. | 01:49 |
| nhaines | Once convergence is in (post 16.04), mouse should work. | 01:49 |
| BrokenScreen | What is Convergence? | 01:52 |
| netlore | Can you not boot to the Nexus 7 into fastboot mode, like the Nexus 4 by holding down the power and volume buttons and then re-load android? | 01:54 |
| nhaines | BrokenScreen: convergence is when Unity 8 is running on phone, tablet, and desktop and you can just choose your preferred interface. | 01:57 |
| nhaines | netlore: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=how+to+enter+fastboot+mode+nexus+7&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 | 01:57 |
| BrokenScreen | Oh I have multirom manger and daul-booting cyanogenmod and Ubuntu touch | 01:57 |
| BrokenScreen | The Cyanogenmod works great...Its the Ubuntu touch I would like to use though | 01:58 |
| nhaines | BrokenScreen: Ubuntu requires a touchscreen on tablets. | 01:59 |
| nhaines | You can try vivid/proposed, but I haven't heard anything about that being different. | 01:59 |
| BrokenScreen | ah i see so I need to get convergence to load so that I can choose my desired input method yeah? | 02:00 |
| netlore | Not quite, you need to wait convergence to be developed.. | 02:00 |
| nhaines | No. When Unity 8 is convergence-enabled, you will be able to use a mouse and keyboard just like you do on the desktop. | 02:01 |
| nhaines | netlore has it right. | 02:01 |
| netlore | Actually being able to use the mouse in tablet mode would be useful too... you certainly can in android. | 02:02 |
| BrokenScreen | Oh I get what your saying.... Have you seen the Changelog for vivid-proposed? I guess I will try it and hope for the best! :-) | 02:03 |
| BrokenScreen | I completely agree netlore... | 02:04 |
| nhaines | I'm not sure vivid is working at the moment, although I expect it's going to be fixed by the end of the month. | 02:04 |
| BrokenScreen | it is always a good Idea to have several options of interface input.... | 02:05 |
| BrokenScreen | Really? I have vivid installed right now on my nexus 7 | 02:06 |
| netlore | is there a new release for stable tomorrow? | 02:06 |
| BrokenScreen | I am not sure. I downloaded and installed it from the multiROM interface... | 02:07 |
| BrokenScreen | MultiROM has a list of possible builds you can install and Vivid was one of them. As was Vivid-Proposed | 02:09 |
| nhaines | netlore: they don't schedule stable releases. They only release when it is stable. | 02:09 |
| nhaines | BrokenScreen: it's broken. No one's working on it right now. Main development is focused on stable, which is an alias for ubuntu-rtm/14.09 | 02:10 |
| BrokenScreen | oh ok. I will try reinstalling a different build from the list | 02:11 |
| nhaines | Good luck! But you'll still need a working touchscreen. | 02:14 |
| BrokenScreen | :-) Thank you for all your help! I will try a different build... if it does not work I will just wait for Convergence I suppose.... | 02:18 |
| BrokenScreen | I am new to Ubuntu Touch... Is There any way that I can make a request for mouse input to be put into futer builds? | 02:21 |
| nhaines | You can file a wishlist request, but it is already planned for 16.10. | 02:22 |
| BrokenScreen | Oh Sweet! :-) For future reference though how do I go about fileing a wishlist request? | 02:23 |
| BrokenScreen | Also do you know how a noob like myself can help the project? | 02:24 |
| nhaines | You can file a bug against http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch/ | 02:25 |
| nhaines | As for helping, phones are pretty complicated, but you can always learn how to develop software, and you can always help write documentation. | 02:25 |
| netlore | I noticed something weird... I created a new folder in /home/phablet and it's not visible when connecting by MTP... | 02:28 |
| BrokenScreen | Cool Thank you. I will keeping on learning... take care my friends | 02:29 |
| nhaines | I haven't done a ton of testing with NTP. | 02:29 |
| nhaines | BrokenScreen: I wish you the best of luck. :) | 02:29 |
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| lotuspsychje | !devices | optrusty | 05:07 |
| ubot5 | optrusty: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 05:07 |
| optrusty | What about porting it | 05:09 |
| sturmflut-work | http://youtu.be/wqYEH3MUC3w How does he "seamlessly" switch between Desktop and Tablet/Phone mode? Is there a key combination or is the video edited? | 06:25 |
| nhaines | sturmflut-work: it's something he's doing with his private branch on his computer. It's not merged yet as far as I know. | 07:04 |
| sturmflut-work | nhaines: Ah, that explains it. The only way to switch between interfaces I knew was via command line | 07:05 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Clean Off Your Desk Day! :-D | 09:31 |
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| ravinder | hi i want to install ubuntu on an android tablet, So from where I can download ubuntu os image for tablet | 11:54 |
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| willcooke | popey, did you ever try to get touch running on your x86 tablet? | 13:00 |
| popey | no, its hard | 13:00 |
| popey | also, need porting guide updating | 13:00 |
| popey | *hint* ogra_ rsalveti ☻ | 13:00 |
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| uhhimhere | i hear touch runs great on a nokia 3310 | 13:01 |
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| rsalveti | any x86 tablet that runs android that you can download and build the android side? | 13:01 |
| rsalveti | but yeah, porting guide needs love | 13:01 |
| popey | rsalveti: not tried tbh | 13:02 |
| popey | I have a pegatron made x86 tablet which is pretty decent | 13:02 |
| popey | there's a lot of them about | 13:02 |
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| danrik | am i gonna be old gray-bearded man before I get my hands on ubuntu phone? | 13:29 |
| danrik | srsly. | 13:30 |
| popey | depends | 13:30 |
| popey | are you old and grey-bearded already? | 13:30 |
| danrik | popey, no haha | 13:30 |
| popey | Yay! You could be in luck then! | 13:30 |
| danrik | popey, arghhh. that's whta popey always says. frigging hope and wait. | 13:31 |
| popey | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/12/bq-ubuntu-phone-launches-in-europe-this-february | 13:31 |
| popey | seen that? ☻ | 13:31 |
| danrik | popey, :) yeah. no I ve seen that | 13:32 |
| danrik | but I want something more higher-spec. | 13:32 |
| popey | patience ☻ | 13:32 |
| danrik | im willing to pay iphone-like price, but I want a nice juicy specs | 13:33 |
| danrik | popey, also -im in states | 13:33 |
| danrik | popey, if it's not sold here - it's not sold anywhere | 13:33 |
| danrik | lol | 13:34 |
| sturmflut-work | If the BQ Aquaris with Ubuntu will really be priced at less than 150 €, I will certainly get one despite already owning a Nexus 4 and a Nexus 5. | 13:35 |
| danrik | SturmFlut, " US plans are yet to be divulged, and it’s not clear if it will be Bq, Meizu or an as yet unannounced partner jumping through the hoops required to launch a cellular device there." | 13:36 |
| danrik | sigh | 13:36 |
| sturmflut-work | danrik: Can't you just import the device from Europe if necessary? I get stuff from the US and China all the time and 150 € is probably below customs limitations | 13:37 |
| danrik | SturmFlut, naah. I probably can. but I really-really want higher-spec phone though. | 13:38 |
| danrik | sturmflut-work, yeah. i buy stuff from china all the time too. | 13:38 |
| sturmflut-work | danrik: Sadly the Nexus 5 is not an officially supported device at the moment. It still has pretty decent hardware by todays standards | 13:40 |
| ogra_ | sturmflut-work, and being permanently on EDGE only then ? | 13:40 |
| lotuspsychje | i think those phones will be sold out directly | 13:40 |
| ogra_ | the bq doesnt support the US frequencies | 13:41 |
| sturmflut-work | ogra_: Ouch, right. Stupid frequencies | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | so you have the choice between edge and wifi | 13:41 |
| sturmflut-work | I'm happy with my Nexus 4 running Ubuntu Phone BTW | 13:42 |
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| nerochiaro | abeato: hi, do you have a minute ? i have rebuilt android following the instructions you gave me before the holidays and it is working well. however i have a problem rebuilding the ubuntu part (hybris etc) for the device | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | mandel, welcome back! ever figure out the problem with the fix-pause branch? | 14:32 |
| abeato | nerochiaro, I do not remember that, are you sure you asked me? can try to help anyway :) | 14:34 |
| nerochiaro | abeato: maybe you were just participating in that convo and i was mainly talking to someone else, sorry. basically i am not sure how i can rebuild the stuff in the /ubuntu directory for the device. should i just copy the whole thing to the device and run debuild on it ? | 14:36 |
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| abeato | nerochiaro, no, the hybris parts are built too when you build the image | 14:37 |
| nerochiaro | abeato: so when running ./afterbuild/ubuntu_way/replace-android-system.sh they are already installed on the device, and when i rebuild something that uses them, such as for example qtubuntu-camera, I will have the right libraries and headers already ? | 14:39 |
| abeato | nerochiaro, right, the hybris libraries should be there already, although you will have to install the development libraries, should be part of the build-deps of that package | 14:41 |
| nerochiaro | abeato: yes, but if i added functions to hybris then I will have to rebuild at least the -dev packages and reinstall them | 14:43 |
| abeato | nerochiaro, that's right, to clarify things take into account that hybris has an Android side an a Ubuntu side | 14:44 |
| abeato | the first one is built when you build the android image | 14:44 |
| abeato | nerochiaro, the ubuntu part is in a .deb that needs to be build apart | 14:45 |
| abeato | if you are modifying the api you need to rebuild both parts | 14:45 |
| nerochiaro | abeato: ok, trying that | 14:49 |
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| jgdx | abeato, hi, I was working on the tech switch (mtk settings) in u-s-s and I have a question. Is the ofono manager supposed to emit modemremoved/added after you make the switch? | 15:01 |
| jgdx | abeato, I was thinking yes, and I remember seeing that before the holidays, but now I don't. | 15:02 |
| abeato | jgdx, hmm, I think those event won't be generated, what you will see is changes on the Online property probably | 15:03 |
| abeato | jgdx, but you can use monitor-ofono script to get all emitted signals | 15:04 |
| jgdx | abeato, right, thanks. Online on Modem, not ConnMan I guess? | 15:04 |
| abeato | jgdx, right | 15:04 |
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| mpt | Where is the code for the first-run setup these days, now that it’s no longer part of ubuntu-system-settings? | 15:12 |
| mpt | (<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers> says that it’s still part of ubuntu-system-settings) | 15:13 |
| dobey | hrmm, what package to file a bug against for the sdk, exactly? | 15:16 |
| dobey | since ubuntu-sdk is a metapackage from ubuntu-touch-meta | 15:17 |
| jgdx | mpt, unity8 for vivid, if your refering to the wizard | 15:18 |
| mpt | jgdx, yes indeed, thank you | 15:18 |
| mpt | (Hmmm, interesting choice for something you only ever use once to be in shell code … but anyway) | 15:20 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, can you help paulliu decipher his flashing issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/9718940/ ? | 15:25 |
| paulliu | sergiusens: the program just exists after the EOF. But in browser I can see that file as a PGP Signature. | 15:26 |
| Adrian47 | Can anyone help to repair it: "Failed to execute /init" ? :) | 15:29 |
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| sander^work | Which programming languages can I create ubuntu apps in? | 15:34 |
| sander^work | ubuntu phone. | 15:34 |
| popey | qt/qml, c++... | 15:34 |
| popey | some people have even submitted python and java apps to the store | 15:34 |
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| mandel | kenvandine, yes! will ping you in a few mins to get a review :) | 15:43 |
| kenvandine | mandel, awesome, thanks! | 15:43 |
| mandel | kenvandine, no problem, nothing like being away from the machine for a while to get things right | 15:43 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:44 |
| sergiusens | paulliu: wget of https://system-image.ubuntu.com/gpg/image-signing.tar.xz.asc works fine? | 15:45 |
| paulliu | sergiusens: yes. looks good. | 15:46 |
| paulliu | sergiusens: what's the next step after this? | 15:46 |
| sergiusens | paulliu: can you make sure everything in ~/.ubuntuimages is ownd by your user? | 15:47 |
| paulliu | sergiusens: ~/.cache/ubuntuimages? | 15:48 |
| sergiusens | paulliu: yes | 15:48 |
| paulliu | sergiusens: let me check | 15:48 |
| paulliu | sergiusens: looks good. I noticed there are some _lock file. | 15:50 |
| paulliu | sergiusens: should I delete those _lock? I didn't run anything now. | 15:50 |
| sergiusens | paulliu: yes, please delete them | 15:52 |
| paulliu | sergiusens: it works. Thanks a lot. | 15:54 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, what github revno does vivid libqofono correspond to? | 15:54 |
| sergiusens | paulliu: np | 15:54 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, i'm not sure | 15:56 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, if it's whatever version was master head in June, we might need to update libqofono to fix the issue we discussed | 15:58 |
| kenvandine | cool | 15:58 |
| jgdx | talked to a guy over at nemomobile who said they fixed that issue in #66 | 15:59 |
| oSoMoN | jibel, re bug #1409728, is that on rtm or vivid? | 16:00 |
| ubot5 | bug 1409728 in webbrowser-app "webapps do not recover correctly from OOM conditions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1409728 | 16:00 |
| oSoMoN | (or both?) | 16:00 |
| jibel | oSoMoN, RTM, sorry, I didn't add the versions, I'll update the report. | 16:01 |
| oSoMoN | jibel, thanks, I’ll look into it | 16:01 |
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| Adrian47 | I am porting UT to HTC phone, maybe someone can help with some tips? I can trying and searching, any idea can help. I still get this error: "Failed to execute /init" , or how can I debug what is bad? | 16:03 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, can I do the libqofono import? | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | update the package? | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | let me do that... i can give you a package to build | 16:14 |
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| oSoMoN | jibel, how do I "Make the device run out of memory"? do you know of an app that is a huge memory consumer? | 16:17 |
| popey | oSoMoN: G+ | 16:17 |
| popey | open a bunch of webapps, game webapps for example | 16:17 |
| oSoMoN | ah, thanks, will try that | 16:17 |
| jibel | oSoMoN, open several webapps, + the webbrowser with websites like euronews | 16:18 |
| jibel | oSoMoN, or sudo python3 -c from time import sleep; a='X'*500*2**20; sleep(10000)" | 16:19 |
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| davmor2 | oSoMoN: install the g+ app and scroll down 3 pages and then open a link | 16:25 |
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| bzoltan | dobey: it depends on what sort of problems did you find. the Tools related bugs are managed here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu | 16:40 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, ok... doing a test build of 0.70 with our patches | 16:40 |
| bzoltan | dobey: and if you found something related to the UI toolkit then here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit | 16:41 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, looks like quite a few fixes since our last package update | 16:41 |
| oSoMoN | jibel, I can’t reproduce, webapps seem to recover correctly here | 16:45 |
| ogra_ | oSoMoN, i just need to play any embedded youtube video in the G+ app ... after 2-3min it just turns into a white screen | 16:47 |
| oSoMoN | ogra_, and then switching to another webapp doesn’t load it properly? | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | or scroll down G+ to the end like 5-6 times (so it loads more and more entries to the list and at some point it falls over in the same way) | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | do you mean the other app or G+ ? | 16:49 |
| ogra_ | the other app is usually SIGKILLed and starts properly when i switch to it | 16:49 |
| ogra_ | G+ doesnt | 16:49 |
| oSoMoN | ok, just managed to get G+ to hang on a blank page | 16:50 |
| oSoMoN | that’s a slightly different issue to the one filed by jibel though | 16:51 |
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| oSoMoN | closing and re-opening G+ does the trick, FWIW (but it should definitely recover by itself) | 16:52 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, yeah, tons rather | 16:59 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, do you have a link to the uitk input mask issue? | 17:01 |
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| kenvandine | jgdx, bug 1357548 | 17:03 |
| ubot5 | bug 1357548 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[settings] Empty PIN/password/passphrase field appears to contain 4 characters" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1357548 | 17:03 |
| nerochiaro | abeato: you previous suggestion worked well, thanks for the help. one more thing if you have a moment: do you know how I can see the log produced by the ALOG* macros ? | 17:05 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, thanks | 17:06 |
| abeato | nerochiaro, np, most files on the Android side contain a macro called LOG_NDEBUG , you can uncomment it for the files for which you want to see traces | 17:07 |
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| jgdx | kenvandine, ah, you answered already | 17:07 |
| nerochiaro | abeato: this is on the ubuntu side, inside hybris | 17:10 |
| abeato | nerochiaro, hmm, anyway, should be the same if the are using the ALOG macros, output should go through logcat | 17:11 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, lp:~ken-vandine/+junk/libqofono-0.70 | 17:14 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, there's a build failure though... but i need to step away for a bit | 17:14 |
| nerochiaro | abeato: i added "#define LOG_NDEBUG 0" to the top of the source file i want to log from, but still not getting it logged to logcat | 17:22 |
| dobey | bzoltan: ah ok. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1409815 i got stuck poking at some other stuff on friday and forgot to file the bug. | 17:28 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1409815 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Manifest file with invalid syntax reported as missing" [Undecided,New] | 17:28 |
| abeato | nerochiaro, might be apparmor permission issue | 17:28 |
| bzoltan | dobey: super, thanks. I will start with that tomorrow morning | 17:40 |
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| ZacharyIgielman | Anyone else finding battery life very inconsistent? | 17:53 |
| dobey | on what? | 17:56 |
| ZacharyIgielman | Ubuntu touch on Nexus 4 | 17:57 |
| dobey | i know on my n5 that i have wifi enabled, the battery discharges *much* faster :-/ | 17:58 |
| ZacharyIgielman | Will try it without wifi thanks :) | 18:02 |
| ZacharyIgielman | Some days it runs out, other days it doesn't even use half :S | 18:02 |
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| cody__ | anyone use bumblebee on a asus rog? i've tried everything to get it to recognize my nvidia 860m | 18:16 |
| dobey | cody__: i think you want to ask in #ubuntu | 18:16 |
| cody__ | ok thank you | 18:17 |
| asac | whats the best shorthand to backup my touch data? | 18:26 |
| asac | before doing a risky upgrade? | 18:26 |
| * asac remembers there was a good wiki etc. | 18:26 | |
| dobey | asac: just tar up /home/phablet ? | 18:27 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, that libqofono branch should be good to go now | 18:27 |
| asac | dobey: good point :) | 18:30 |
| * asac wonders where to tar that to | 18:30 | |
| ogra_ | the SD card ;) | 18:30 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, i uploaded it to the phablet-team ppa to get a good build for you to test | 18:30 |
| asac | oha we are ahead | 18:31 |
| asac | we have python3-gnupg | 18:31 |
| asac | while cloud doesnt have that | 18:31 |
| asac | lack of comfiness :) | 18:32 |
| asac | oops | 18:32 |
| asac | wrong channel | 18:32 |
| asac | lol | 18:32 |
| dobey | ok, how do i get -v passed to ssh for phablet-shell? | 19:27 |
| sergiusens | dobey: I'm going to shoot one into the wild, with an MP :-) | 19:28 |
| dobey | sergiusens: so i can't right now? | 19:29 |
| dobey | i'm getting ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host | 19:29 |
| dobey | which is not fun when i need to debug something on my device :) | 19:29 |
| sergiusens | dobey: I don't think anything can be done; I would of liked phablet-shell run_command as well ;-) | 19:29 |
| sergiusens | dobey: I guess you can hack the phablet-shell script | 19:30 |
| sergiusens | it's bash or dash | 19:30 |
| dobey | ok | 19:30 |
| netlore_ | nice to see a new stable release | 19:30 |
| dobey | OMFG | 19:32 |
| dobey | sergiusens: so i added -v to the command in the script, and now it freaking connects :( | 19:32 |
| * dobey wonders where the rum is | 19:33 | |
| sergiusens | dobey: it might have been ssh restarting due to the property change | 19:33 |
| netlore_ | does anyone know why I can share a URL to messaging but not to email, facebook, google+ etc. | 19:33 |
| popey | dobey: i sometimes find phablet-shell fails, but runs okay the second time | 19:33 |
| dobey | popey: i ran it like 5 times and kept getting the error :-/ | 19:33 |
| sergiusens | netlore_: I guess it's because it's not hooked up to the content-hub | 19:34 |
| sergiusens | I would like that fwiw :-) | 19:34 |
| dobey | popey: i even reflashed because i thought something was wrong on the phone | 19:34 |
| popey | erk | 19:34 |
| sergiusens | dobey: we are not in the 80s :-) | 19:34 |
| dobey | sergiusens: are you sure? the size of cell phones today is pretty much the same as they were in the 80s | 19:35 |
| popey | also battery life | 19:35 |
| sergiusens | dobey: yeah, but without BCD LEDs :-P | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, fyi, libqofono 0.70 is built in the phablet-team ppa | 19:55 |
| popey | tedg: bug 1404302 is yours, right? Can we get that fixed so spurious log entries can be removed? | 20:04 |
| ubot5 | bug 1404302 in ust (Ubuntu) "liblttng-ust0 Error opening shm /lttng-ust-wait-5" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1404302 | 20:04 |
| tedg | popey, No, not anymore. I think mine are hidden now. | 20:04 |
| tedg | popey, I think those might be ricmm's, but I haven't checked. | 20:04 |
| grendal_prime | have an asus memopad 7 android has become pretty useless to me i need to get this installed on that device. | 20:31 |
| grendal_prime | can anyone asist with this? | 20:32 |
| grendal_prime | its sort of a nonessential device at this point so if it wipes it out that is fine. | 20:32 |
| popey | rvr: https://translations.launchpad.net/music-app/remix/+pots/music-app/es/+translate?show=new_suggestions | 20:42 |
| popey | any chance you can review those two tiny translations? ☻ | 20:42 |
| grendal_prime | grrrr | 20:55 |
| popey | grendal_prime: i dont think anyone has ported to that device | 20:55 |
| grendal_prime | grrrr | 21:08 |
| grendal_prime | can i help them do so? | 21:08 |
| popey | Well, the porting guide is outdated unfortunately | 21:08 |
| grendal_prime | is all this hardware really all that different? | 21:09 |
| popey | yes | 21:10 |
| ZacharyIgielman | popey: got my translation suggestion? | 21:13 |
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| WebVisitor-4 | user question: is there a way to add two finger scrolling with touchscreen. Prefer if this could be done in the same way that three and four finger events are recognised currently. Thank you. | 22:53 |
| rvr | popey: Done! | 22:55 |
| RAOF | WebVisitor-4: Two finger scrolling works in GTK3 (and Qt5, IIRC). | 23:03 |
| RAOF | And when I say “two finger scrolling” I mean, of course “one finger scrolling” | 23:03 |
| WebVisitor-4 | RAOF: how do I enable this in standard ubuntu (vivid) desktop? ... and ... erm what do you mean two finger is one finger 8) | 23:04 |
| RAOF | WebVisitor-4: It just works, if you've got a touchscreen | 23:04 |
| RAOF | I mean that dragging a single finger does scrolling. | 23:05 |
| RAOF | But this only works in GTK3 (and, I think, Qt5) applications. | 23:05 |
| WebVisitor-4 | So its application specific? Multi touch works fine , ie three and four finger gestures. But one/two finger scrolling does not work in anything I have tried so far, like firefox or gnome-terminal... is a real PITA to get the scroll bar in terminal!!! | 23:07 |
| RAOF | It's not going to work without toolkit support; it's too complex to do at a higher level (eg: you're dragging your finger - does that mean scroll, or to continue a text selection, or to continue dragging an icon around, or...) | 23:07 |
| WebVisitor-4 | sure... thats why I figured two finger scroll would be the one 8) | 23:08 |
| RAOF | Hah. It doesn't work in GNOME terminal for exactly that reason - terminal treats that as selection :) | 23:08 |
| RAOF | So, that's a very reasonable use-case that GTK doesn't support well currently. | 23:09 |
| WebVisitor-4 | Can we do it with ginn? | 23:09 |
| RAOF | But we're not going to be able to do a global 2-finger scroll translation unless you want applications to never receive 2-finger events. | 23:09 |
| RAOF | We do that with 3- and 4-finger events because applications generally don't have special behaviour for those. | 23:10 |
| RAOF | But adding 2-finger scroll would break 2-finger pinch-to-zoom, for example. | 23:10 |
| RAOF | (Adding it globally; when implemented in the toolkit the toolkit has enough information to make both work) | 23:10 |
| WebVisitor-4 | I figured there would be a good reason for three finger 8) Quite right! What about three finger scroll 8)... Is there a config or something that i can edit to try playing with three finger events? | 23:11 |
| RAOF | No, not really. | 23:11 |
| RAOF | The multitouch bits are in compiz/unity, though. | 23:11 |
| RAOF | They're not configurable, but that's where they live. | 23:11 |
| RAOF | Playing around with three finger events would involve grabbing the source and doing some fiddling. | 23:12 |
| WebVisitor-4 | so non trivial code changes? have you experience with the multi touch compiz stuff, as in which and where to start pretending to grok 8) | 23:12 |
| RAOF | Not really. I think “grail” is the search string you want to be using, though. | 23:13 |
| WebVisitor-4 | cheers, as in the holy one 8) Appreciate your reasoning. Will have a go at it 8) | 23:14 |
| RAOF | The multitouch library is called libgrail :) | 23:15 |
| WebVisitor-4 | RAOF: Much appreciated. | 23:18 |
| notme_ | i want to make a bootable usb ubuntu touch but cant find iso can anyone link me? | 23:20 |
| WebVisitor-4 | Just an observation, being new to touch and all... it would be very handy to put more space around top panel indicators to take into consideration finger fatness 8) | 23:21 |
| popey | thanks rvr ! | 23:25 |
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