[00:03] <shadaloo> hi
[00:03] <shadaloo> where are the wallpapers stored
[00:06] <Bashing-om> shadaloo: Could depend .. what distribution and release are you running ?
[00:07] <shadaloo> Bashing-om: 15.04
[00:08] <Daekdroom> !ubuntu+1 | shadaloo
[00:12] <Nixus> hey I am a n00b at this irc stuff. can anyone tell me the basic stuff?
[00:13] <daftykins> Nixus: no, this isn't an IRC support channel. join #freenode and ask there
[00:13] <daftykins> Nixus: type "/join #freenode"
[00:13] <bubbasaures> knob, Any of those installs from the ubuntu repo?
[00:13] <Nixus> ok
[00:18] <darius93> Do anyone have issues with amd proprietary when using it with a apu? It seem like there may be a memory leak with /usr/bin/X overtime or when running a graphically intensive application (eg Game, Rendering, etc)
[00:20] <steven____> Which release was the first release of Ubuntu that had PAE as a requiremen
[00:22] <squidly> is there a gnucash package that has sql enabled?
[00:22] <fang0654> What's the correct way to shut ubuntu down from the command line?
[00:23] <fang0654> /sbin/halt seems to hang at the end
[00:23] <Bashing-om> fang0654: Try as -> sudo shutdown -h now <- .
[00:23] <steven____> fang0654: what version of ubuntu does it hang on?
[00:24] <fang0654> steven____, 14.04.. this is a desktop, but I've experienced it on the server flavors as well
[00:24] <fang0654> Bashing-om, yep, that did it.  Thanks!
[00:24] <steven____> fang0654: I'll try and reproduce the hang a bit later on...
[00:24] <fang0654> steven____, usually hangs with "System halted", but doesn't send the final kill
[00:24] <Bashing-om> fang0654: ;) ... -r to 'reboot' .
[00:25] <steven____> Bashing-om: Running sudo kill 1 works too
[00:26] <steven____> Brb, rebooting for a software update
[00:26] <Bashing-om> steven____: Maybe, but to me that is a bit scary .. '1' is init . Killing it might leave things in a unstable state (??) .
[00:26] <anontx> i have a notebook with ubuntu 14.10 running touch pad works but usb optical mouse does not work i really need the mouse more than touchpad since the notebook keyboard is wrecked .  any ideas?
[00:27] <niytro> Bashing-om, okay still working, i went to eat
[00:27] <daftykins> anontx: tried more than one USB port? is this mouse known good? i don't mean historically, i mean today - on another computer :)
[00:28] <Bashing-om> niytro: I was wondering .. try again and let's see what happens .. else going to get down and dirty .. try and unhack it from the terminal with apt's tools .dirty .
[00:28] <anontx> yes it works fine on windows machines and i did try all ports. i was astounded lol that it did not work. almost everything works it seems. i want to use this as a tor
[00:29] <anontx> with gnone on front end
[00:29] <shadaloo> what is the command that is executed when I select "Shut Down" from the system panel
[00:29] <daftykins> anontx: that's ok don't need the life history. unplug it, then plug it back in and type "dmesg | tail" and see if you spot it being plugged in
[00:31] <anontx> [  344.297657] cfg80211:   (5250000 KHz - 5330000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm)
[00:31] <anontx> [  344.297659] cfg80211:   (5490000 KHz - 5600000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm)
[00:31] <anontx> [  344.297661] cfg80211:   (5650000 KHz - 5710000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm)
[00:31] <anontx> [  344.297663] cfg80211:   (5735000 KHz - 5835000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (300 mBi, 3000 mBm)
[00:31] <anontx> [  344.297665] cfg80211:   (57240000 KHz - 63720000 KHz @ 2160000 KHz), (N/A, 4000 mBm)
[00:31] <anontx> [  743.133613] perf samples too long (2505 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000
[00:31] <unopaste> anontx you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[00:33] <anontx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9715495/
[00:33] <anontx> keyboard works fine
[00:36] <shadaloo> what is the command that is executed when I select "Shut Down" from the system panel
[00:36] <failfarm> shadaloo, sudo shutdown ?
[00:36] <shadaloo> failfarm:
[00:36] <daftykins> anontx: is it a wireless USB receiver for the mouse and keyboard, or?
[00:36] <shadaloo> you can shutdown the computer without executing as root
[00:37] <failfarm> shadaloo, i think ubuntu also uses poweroff
[00:37] <anontx> no both plugged into seperate ports
[00:37] <shadaloo> poweroff: Need to be root
[00:39] <daftykins> anontx: so they're wired devices? is it optical? does the light come on, if any?
[00:39] <anontx> yes light works when i lift it
[00:39] <daftykins> is the system a laptop?
[00:39] <anontx> yes
[00:39] <failfarm> shadaloo, would changing the sudoers file to user ALL=NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown, work for what you need ?
[00:40] <anontx> compaq with a wasted keyboard
[00:40] <failfarm> or you could do sudo chmod a+s /sbin/shutdown
[00:41] <daftykins> anontx: old thing? still got a battery?
[00:41] <niytro> Bashing-om, okay still not working
[00:42] <anontx> it wad vista on it
[00:42] <anontx> so its gotta be 6 years old ?
[00:42] <anontx> mu guess
[00:42] <anontx> *had
[00:43] <anontx> mouse and keyboard combo worked fine in windows. i know that dont mean much
[00:43] <shadaloo> failfarm: how do you edit that file
[00:44] <failfarm> shadaloo, http://nixcraft.com/showthread.php/667-how-to-use-visudoers
[00:44] <robin_> Not sure if I'm in the right place, but using GNOME in Ubuntu 14.04, and having a problem getting sketchup 2015 running in wine 1.7.33
[00:45] <robin_> double-tap the installed icon, get the "working" icon on the mouse for 4-5 seconds and it stops. no program.
[00:45] <Valduare> robin_: there isnt linux native version anymore of sketchup?
[00:45] <robin_> that's version 8. I use version 15.
[00:46] <robin_> that's a WEE bit of a step in the wrong direction
[00:46] <daftykins> robin_: consulted the wine appdb?
[00:46] <robin_> says sketchup 2015 is GOLD in 14.04, but doesn't give me much information as to how to make it work.
[00:47] <robin_> https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37596
[00:48] <niytro> Bashing-om, you know I am on 14.10, would it be better for me to go to 14.04?
[00:49] <anontx> running gnome 14.10 also
[00:50] <anontx> think that matters ?
[00:50] <avis> i am wondering if the AMD a78 chipset is supported under linux
[00:51] <robin_> following this tutorial, installed winetricks at step 4, and got this error
[00:51] <robin_> http://ubuntuguide.net/install-google-sketchup-cad-style-app-in-ubuntu-using-wine
[00:51] <robin_> wine cmd.exe /c echo '%ProgramFiles%' returned empty string, error message 'wine: /home/robin/.wine is not owned by you'
[00:51] <robin_> (I didn't paste-bin because it was only 1 line)
[00:51] <daftykins> robin_: "ls -l ~/ | pastebinit"
[00:53] <robin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9715585/
[00:53] <Bashing-om> niytro: 14.04/14.10 is a personal choice .. I prefer the LTS 14.04 as it is (L)ong (T)erm (S)upport and not have to upgade every few months.
[00:54] <daftykins> robin_: you downloaded winetricks as root.
[00:54] <daftykins> robin_: sorry that should've been "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit"
[00:54] <niytro> Bashing-om, would it also possibly run better on my machine?
[00:54] <robin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9715590/
[00:55] <niytro> Bashing-om, i should probably switch though because I do plan to keep this on my machine for as long as possible...
[00:55] <daftykins> robin_: yeah, i'd be willing to guess you wget'd that winetricks as root@host then ran the command as root too, correct?
[00:56] <robin_> Porbably did. I tend to run sudo when I do install commands on reflex.
[00:56] <robin_> change ownership should be no issue, just chmod chown, yes?
[00:56] <daftykins> robin_: sudo chown -R robin: /home/robin
[00:57] <robin_> done. shall I re-run sh winetricks?
[00:58] <daftykins> robin_: yep, as you ;)
[00:58] <robin_> http://pastebin.com/NVfV5zS4
[00:59] <DeaDSouL> when i mount a usb drive from terminal with my normal user .. it works... but i can't read/write into it i'm using 'mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/wd1' my user has the right to use sudo mount without root privileges
[00:59] <DeaDSouL> the usb filesystem is ext4
[00:59] <DeaDSouL> how to solve the read/write permissions ? what arguments to add next to mount command ?
[00:59] <Bashing-om> niytro: Again that is as to how you want to operate your system what release/distro to run . for stability - in many terms - install the LTS release .
[01:00] <daftykins> robin_: rerun "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit" , then also "ls -al ~/.wine/ | pastebinit"
[01:00] <niytro> Bashing-om, now Im assuing i want the point release for that as well?
[01:00] <shadaloo> how can I search apt-cache for only installed packages
[01:00] <niytro> Bashing-om, lubuntu 14.04.1?
[01:00] <robin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9715612/
[01:00] <robin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9715613/
[01:01] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: i'm sure it's permissions yet again :P "ls -l /mnt/wd1 | pastebinit"
[01:01] <joaquin> hi
[01:01] <Bashing-om> niytro: To this time there has not been a point release for 14.04 . It only takes 20 minutes to install and see what the difference might be.
[01:03] <Bashing-om> shadaloo: -> dpkg -l <package_name> for a status . That work for ya ?
[01:03] <niytro> Bashing-om, on lubuntu.net they have a page for a point release
[01:03] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: permission denied... but 'ls -l /mn' shows the drwx------ 1 root root 4.0K Jan  6 21:49 wd1
[01:03] <niytro> Bashing-om, its telling me to download 14.04.1
[01:04] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: you can also repeat my command with sudo
[01:04] <bubbasaures> niytro, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/trusty/daily-live/current/
[01:05] <niytro> bubbasaures, i use lubuntu
[01:05] <Bashing-om> niytro: You are correct .1 point release " July 24th
[01:05] <Bashing-om> ￼ Ubuntu 14.04.1
[01:05] <niytro> is it okay to be getting lubuntu help in this channel?
[01:06] <niytro> Bashing-om, im going to install that version and head back into chat after
[01:06] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: same thing.. they're all owned by root:root with drwx------
[01:06] <jhr34> So when will Ubuntu release updated packages for *OpenSSL*? A few days after Debian who has also took for long?
[01:06] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: yep so not even vaguely surprised there. are you the one that transplants a disk between an HTPC and a desktop/laptop for DVD ripping?
[01:06] <Bashing-om> niytro: Lubuntu is also fully supported here .. ( 3rd party software is not ) .. and we see ya on the other side :)
[01:07] <jhr34> ...to much time even
[01:07] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: I just have a file in the usb and want to check it
[01:08] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: so change ownership of the mountpoint to your user.
[01:08] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: how?
[01:08] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: although auto mount should've worked just fine.
[01:08] <jhr34> CVE-2014-8150 <- Debian took three days, for *OpenSSL* and Ubuntu are now gonna be even worse?
[01:08] <daftykins> you shouldn't have needed to mount it yourself
[01:09] <jhr34> oops, I meant (CVE-2014-3569, CVE-2014-3570, CVE-2014-3571, CVE-2014-3572, CVE-2014-8275, CVE-2015-0204, CVE-2015-0205, CVE-2015-0206)
[01:09] <jhr34> which are quite a few
[01:09] <unopaste> ubottu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:10] <bubbasaures> heh the bot quietedm bad bot bad.....bot
[01:10] <robin_> daftykins: any ideas?
[01:10] <jhr34> and OpenSSL updated their upstream the *same day*?
[01:10] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: may be becose I'm using only console ? the auto mount doesnt work?
[01:10] <daftykins> robin_: nope, the script comes from a third party and i don't know how it works.
[01:11] <proc3sarte> ¿alguien habla español?
[01:11] <daftykins> !es | proc3sarte
[01:11] <jhr34> just saying... something smells
[01:11] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: ah, server is it? ok. "sudo chown -R yourusername: /mnt/wd1"
[01:12] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: ok
[01:12] <jhr34> and I don't want to be connected to you in case there are unpateched servers on your end, as OpenSSL vulns are critical, stupid
[01:12] <jhr34> unpatched
[01:13] <daftykins> thank tux that idiot left
[01:13] <shadaloo> Bashing-om: yes that was what i was looking for
[01:13] <shadaloo> failfarm: thx that worked perfectly
[01:14] <bubbasaures> if you can't step in and help fix it, kinda a waste complaining
[01:15] <robin_> -tear- this is why I so often go back to windows. Proproietary software is killing me. But... I could use vbox and (seamless) virtualization, I guess...
[01:15] <alvaro> ub
[01:15] <alvaro> ?
[01:17] <daftykins> robin_: well, you are trying to run Windows software on Linux. that's the first issue :)
[01:18] <kamori> Oh man the sleepies got to me
[01:18] <daftykins> kamori: not a chat channel
[01:19] <kamori> Oops didn't realize I was in the ubuntu channel, my apologies
[01:19] <robin_> daftykins: you're not wrong!! If I felt that an open-sourced equivelent were better than the product i've grown used to... it wouldn't be an issue. Libre is a solid compeditor to M$ Office Suite... I already used Chrome, and evolution isn't a -terrible- package (I like it's integration into the OS).... but there's nothing quite like Sketchip that I've dound
[01:19] <daftykins> robin_: you can always virtualise Windows.
[01:20] <mutual> robin_ are you trying to install sketchup on linux?
[01:20] <daftykins> mutual: yep
[01:20] <mutual> hmm
[01:20] <robin_> mutual: trying to install sketchup 15 on 14.04, yes
[01:20] <mutual> robin_, doesn't work in wine?
[01:20] <robin_> virtualization is alright, though I would have preferred wine
[01:20] <robin_> double-tap and it takes 5 seconds for the working mouse pointer to vanish and no window
[01:21] <robin_> I'd be greatful if you could assist
[01:21] <mutual> I probably can't
[01:21] <somsip> robin_: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=31190
[01:21] <mutual> i would just google around
[01:21] <robin_> been doing that for about 6 hours :P
[01:21] <daftykins> and stop running things as root perhaps ;)
[01:21] <somsip> robin_: and #winehq (from memory)
[01:21] <robin_> -hisssssss-
[01:21] <daftykins> somsip: correct \o/
[01:22] <mutual> somsip ^^
[01:22] <robin_> I have no idea how to correct the issues described. Already threw this link at daftykins;)
[01:23] <daftykins> yeah that was some kinda guide using some script though
[01:23] <daftykins> actually
[01:23] <robin_> how do I automatically disable the ruby api?
[01:23] <daftykins> somsip: robin_ here was running a non-+x'd script with "sh script" in ~, would that have a problem not being +x ?
[01:24] <somsip> robin_: disablerupbapi hint here https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=30063
[01:24] <somsip> *DisableRubyApi
[01:24] <mutual> ^^
[01:24] <somsip> daftykins: can't see why unless it called itself recursively
[01:25] <daftykins> somsip: ok thanks :> that covers that potential angle, maybe
[01:25] <somsip> daftykins: that's more "what I think" than a definitive answer though
[01:25] <daftykins> *nod*
[01:25] <daftykins> robin_: certainly wouldn't have hurt to "chmod +x winetricks"
[01:26] <somsip> robin_: are you using the exact same release as the user who reports a gold success rating? If not, can you do that?
[01:27] <robin_> I am, indeed, using 2015... though there may be a very slight version number difference
[01:28] <str8bondg> join #gaynewyork
[01:28] <str8bondg> sorry
[01:28] <somsip> robin_: there is a note in the summary "Fixed with 37596" co maybe try with that release?
[01:29] <somsip> robin_: and the same wine version. Maybe even contact ruffsl (if that's possible) for advice?
[01:29] <robin_> i'm not going to go to that much trouble. I've got vbox installed, it's a whole lot less work to go with a virt-win7 box and go seamless with sketchup2015
[01:30] <BloodyDragon20> haha
[01:30] <somsip> robin_: you've been at this for 6 hours but you won't email someone who got it working? Okay - up to you
[01:30] <BloodyDragon20> i take it here every one is good with Ubuntu right...
[01:30] <somsip> !ask | BloodyDragon20
[01:31] <BloodyDragon20> any one know ubuntu
[01:32] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: either ask a support question or go elsewhere please
[01:33] <ChronicChops> hey would anyone be able to help me set up my power management utilities for my machine which is running 14.10 with i3? I believe it is a problem regarding permissions...
[01:33] <BloodyDragon20> i have resently installed a new GUI on my serve box and for some reason i cannot get it to change i have tried everything to change it
[01:34] <BloodyDragon20> i need an way to change it from the current GUI i have
[01:35] <BloodyDragon20> this is the current GUI i have http://imgur.com/PuZ7VWl&T5yDhWC
[01:35] <BloodyDragon20> i installed GNOME but i cant switch it.
[01:36] <daftykins> mmm, the old GUI on a server chestnut.
[01:36] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: does this server live in your house or is it a VPS?
[01:36] <BloodyDragon20> i rent the server it dint come with a deskto i had to manualy install it
[01:37] <daftykins> yeah that's what i'm suggesting is a bad move ;) GUIs don't belong on servers
[01:37] <BloodyDragon20> helps me run my MC server tho
[01:37] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: alright, so do you have access to see the login screen? you'd have to log out.
[01:38] <BloodyDragon20> if i log off the entire server box resets
[01:38] <BloodyDragon20> as i connect it via a VNC client
[01:38] <daftykins> yeah i noticed in the image, since you use windows 8
[01:38] <BloodyDragon20> i also have bitvise to use it for console and FTP
[01:39] <daftykins> you could try reconfiguring your default session
[01:42] <BloodyDragon20> dafy i do not have access to the login screen even if i log off it will resest the entire server box
[01:43] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: open a terminal or login via console and run "cat /etc/issue" and paste it here (single line)
[01:43] <somsip> BloodyDragon20: so how did you manage to add a GUI? What steps did you go through to enable that?
[01:43] <BloodyDragon20> somsip may i pm you to explain
[01:43] <daftykins> !pm
[01:44] <somsip> BloodyDragon20: no - keep conversations in here please
[01:44] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: if you're getting distracted, HIDE joins and parts in your client. we cope just fine.
[01:44] <BloodyDragon20> HIDE
[01:44] <BloodyDragon20> hmmm
[01:45] <daftykins> commands start with a /, that was not one :>
[01:46] <ChronicChops> hey would anyone be able to help me set up my power management utilities for my machine which is running 14.10 with i3? I believe it is a problem regarding permissions...
[01:46] <BloodyDragon20> :
[01:46] <BloodyDragon20> :>
[01:46] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: still waiting on that command's result
[01:47] <BloodyDragon20> daftykins whats the command again
[01:47] <daftykins> scroll up
[01:47] <daftykins> i do not tolerate laziness
[01:47] <phunyguy> :|
[01:48] <daftykins> phunyguy: something the matter?
[01:49] <phunyguy> not even sure how to respond to that.
[01:49] <daftykins> perhaps with the truth?
[01:49] <plt> What package has  libcrypt
[01:50] <somsip> !find libcrypt | plt
[01:51] <privato89> Salve a tutti. Ho installato da poco Ubuntu, e già mi trovo bene! Però l'ho installato su un vecchio HDD da 500Gb molto lento. I componenti interni del mio pc sono molto potenti, solo che è un peccato avere Ubuntu su un vecchio HDD. Quindi vi chiedo: è possibile trasferire il sistema di su un nuovo SSD, senza perdere i dati o rifare la reinstallazi
[01:51] <privato89> one del sistema? Inoltre l'SSD che usero sarà un "Samsung MZ-75E120BW850EVO 250GB", ci sarà una differenza di prestazioni?
[01:51] <BloodyDragon20> daftykins no result
[01:51] <somsip> !it | privato89
[01:51] <privato89> sorry XD
[01:52] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: what about "lsb_release -d" ?
[01:52] <BloodyDragon20> just got >
[01:53] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: you're not including the " i take it?
[01:53] <daftykins> ctrl+c and try again from the prompt
[01:53] <BloodyDragon20> not cluded
[01:55] <daftykins> can't even confirm that's ubuntu then
[01:55] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: what about "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" ?
[01:56] <texla> What is the command for removing all the files in a directory at one time
[01:56] <BloodyDragon20> daftykins the result of lsb_release -d was Ubuntu 14.04.1 LRS
[01:56] <BloodyDragon20> daftykins the result of lsb_release -d was Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[01:59] <Bashing-om> texla: -> rm -r <directory_  where r " -r, -R, --recursive >> remove directories and their contents recursively . see -> man rm <- .
[01:59] <BloodyDragon20> daftkins the result was Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[02:00] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: yeah i moved on after that
[02:00] <texla> Bashing-om, Thans for the info
[02:00] <ChronicChops> hey would anyone be able to help me set up my power management utilities for my machine which is running 14.10 with i3? I believe it is a problem regarding permissions...
[02:00] <Bashing-om> texla: :)
[02:09] <dtscode> hey guys... is there any software for monitoring razor mice on ubuntu?
[02:14] <privato89> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu on my old and noisy HDD. Now I want transfer my Ubuntu-System on a new SSD. Is this possible? I do not want reinstall the System, but transfer all the System from old HDD to SSD.
[02:14] <privato89> Thanks... sorry my bad english :)
[02:15] <somsip> privato89: ubunt forum has lots of results for this. Maybe there is an answer here for you http://is.gd/AoqAec
[02:15] <daftykins> privato89: clonezilla
[02:16] <privato89> ok thank, with clonezilla is that possible?
[02:16] <privato89> without losing data?
[02:16] <anontx> i noticed when i rebooted that its said a LOW SPEED usb device ... something  it went to fast  so its detecting the mouse just loses it after the WIFI network config
[02:16] <somsip> anontx: type 'desg | less' in a terminal and use space to page through the messages so you can see it properly (b for backwards)
[02:16] <somsip> *dmesg
[02:17] <privato89> What size of SSD do you recommend?
[02:17] <k1l> privato89: as bis as you got money for it :)
[02:17] <privato89> 250GB?
[02:18] <privato89> this:
[02:18] <privato89>     Samsung MZ-75E120BW SSD 850 EVO
[02:18] <sim590> I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/9715963/ while mounting an external usb disk. This is a friend's disk. She told me that his friend operated something to let a "compatibility" between mac and windows. To me it doesn't make any sense because all you have to do to have a compatibility is install exfat filesystem, but may be one of you guys know better ?
[02:20] <qietjam> sim590: Are there files on it You want
[02:21] <sim590> qietjam: yes. It does work on her mac though.
[02:21] <sim590> I guess that there's a package that I could try to fix this.
[02:22] <qietjam> sim590: sudo apt-get install exfat-utils exfat-fuse
[02:22] <qietjam> Reboot your computer:
[02:22] <qietjam> sudo reboot
[02:23] <ki7rw> i've been having trouble with hdmi with nvidea and i tried installing NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.65.run but it messes up the xserver - nvidia website says it's the right driver - i get a display and get logged in but no dashboard or anything else - just the purple screen
[02:23] <qietjam> sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse   (instead of fuse-exfat) try that to sim590
[02:24] <halberd> I'm having a strange issue where I'll be just browsing the web, doing nothing special, and suddenly the screen locks up.  I can switch to a virtual terminal but it's veeerrry slow about switching, although no process is hogging many system resources, and then I can't switch back to the GUI.  Should I suspect a video card problem?  this is a new computer
[02:24] <halberd> killing the browser from the terminal does not fix it
[02:25] <sim590> qietjam: those first two packages were already installed.
[02:27] <sim590> qietjam: fuse-exfat doesn't appear after searching it in the package reposirtoies (apt-cache search exfat).
[02:27] <daftykins> halberd: yeah sounds like graphics driver. read "dmesg | tail" when it happens next time, or you could share what graphics hardware is in this machine?
[02:27] <Bashing-om> sim590: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus . To mount a Mac file system .
[02:29] <qietjam> sim590: since they came from Mac. They probably HFS file system
[02:33] <qietjam> sim590: try mounting it with disk utility. Since that program runs as root
[02:36] <sim590> hfsutils seems to need the user to use the terminal.
[02:36] <sim590> I can do that, but my friend can't or doesn't want to.
[02:37] <sim590> I'd like it to be mounted automatically by the desktop environnement.
[02:40] <k2gremlin> Anyone here use Squid3 transparent?
[02:41] <daftykins> sim590: you know HFS+ write isn't supported?
[02:41] <function9x> k2gremlin: try #squid
[02:42] <daftykins> sim590: remote in and provide an fstab edit that permanently mounts it. it's read only as default though
[02:42] <k2gremlin> Only 60 people there and its dead as a doorknob in there
[02:42] <function9x> k2gremlin: yeah that applies to most of freenode around this time of day
[02:44] <Guest77653> hello
[02:44] <Guest77653> how can i install ultrastar on ubuntu 14.10?
[02:46] <daftykins> what is it?
[02:47] <kernix> hey all
[02:47] <sim590> daftykins: I've looked at the filesystem from the mac. This is in fact a exfat filesystem.
[02:47] <sim590> not hfs.
[02:48] <daftykins> sim590: ah easy then :> fstab still applies
[02:49] <sim590> daftykins: this is an external disk. I don't want to edit the fstab on all the computers I'm going to plug the disk on...
[02:51] <daftykins> sim590: if you're using this drive with macs, then this is not an ubuntu issue - unless it's them that are running ubuntu?
[02:52] <Guest77653> how can i install ultrastar on ubuntu 14.10? anyone know how to?
[02:52] <daftykins> never heard of it
[02:52] <Stanley00> !info ultrastar | Guest77653
[02:53] <Stanley00> Guest77653: what is it?
[02:54] <qietjam> sim590: open disk utility and try mounting it
[02:55] <daftykins> sim590: exFAT if used on ubuntu, needs a couple of packages installed typically to be handled by default
[02:55] <daftykins> sim590: install exfat-fuse, exfat-utils
[02:56] <sim590> I've "repaired" the filesystem on the mac machine and now it works..
[02:56] <sim590> daftykins: those packages are already installed.
[02:56] <daftykins> sim590: was this mac even using ubuntu or OS X?
[02:56] <daftykins> sounds like someone didn't unmount it safely
[02:56] <sim590> It is exfat file system.
[02:57] <daftykins> i know that, i'm asking what OS is on this mac.
[02:57] <daftykins> third time, now
[02:58] <sim590> mac.
[02:59] <qietjam> daftykins: he told us it was created on OSX as exfat. He fixed it by rebuilding the file system
[02:59] <sim590> The OS on which I'm trying to make it work is Linux Mint.
[02:59] <daftykins> sim590: mac is a computer, not an operating system
[02:59] <daftykins> qietjam: yes i can read. i'm asking what OS these actions are being taken under.
[02:59] <daftykins> !mint | sim590
[02:59] <daftykins> please go there.
[03:00] <qietjam> daftykins: don't give him a hard time. Disks sometimes give problems after formatting.
[03:01] <daftykins> qietjam: what part is giving a hard time? i really don't follow you
[03:02] <qietjam> If he said Mac most likely he means OSX
[03:02] <qietjam> Cat fight.
[03:02] <daftykins> qietjam: yes but if a problem is occurring there, it is not a question for this channel. do you understand?
[03:02] <bubbasaures> qietjam, my doctor said I would most likely.........die.......some day
[03:02] <sim590> I think that for file system issue like this there's not much difference asking here or Mint, really..
[03:03] <daftykins> sim590: Mint has its' own issues, so you can direct future ones there.
[03:03] <qietjam> sim590 is probably saying thanks for nothing.
[03:04] <sim590> I understand. Thank you for your support !
[03:04] <qietjam> bubbasaures: the doctor was right
[03:05] <daftykins> qietjam: you are not helping the volunteer support in here by making childish comments, please keep them to yourself or go elsewhere.
[03:05] <qietjam> Somebody is having a bad day today.
[03:14] <Vennix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP42YTD0YGM
[03:15] <OerHeks> should we click that youtube, Vennix ?
[03:15] <Vennix> would be appreciated X3
[03:15] <cnnx> i installed lubuntu on a netbook and it runs great via vncviewer
[03:15] <cnnx> love it
[03:15] <pustyi> OerHeks: of course
[03:16] <OerHeks> Vennix i don't, without description why
[03:17] <pustyi> Hi daftykins
[03:17] <Vennix> because me and a few friends are just starting off youtube, and if we get more views, we get more suggested videos, so even more views
[03:17] <Vennix> everyones help would be really appreciated
[03:17] <OerHeks> Vennix, wrong channel, this is ubuntu support only
[03:18] <Vennix> okies
[03:18] <daftykins> pustyi: hi, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[03:19] <Anusien> I'm about to wipe a hard drive and start over. I've backed up /home, /var and /etc. Any other hotspots I should backup before I wipe it?
[03:20] <daftykins> Anusien: nope not unless you use any third party software that has config files in other paths
[03:21] <BloodyDragon20> im trying to have two things in the www folder in /var i need to allow two things
[03:21] <dtscode> how does one setup a remote ppa?
[03:21] <BloodyDragon20> www/html
[03:21] <BloodyDragon20> and www/multicraft
[03:22] <BloodyDragon20> is there a guide on how to do that
[03:22] <dtscode> do you mean have access to them?
[03:22] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: two different sites at two different domains? yeah virtual hosts, pretty simple
[03:22] <michael_j_p> question:  how long will 12.04 lts be supported
[03:22] <BloodyDragon20> how to you configure them
[03:23] <Bashing-om> michael_j_p: ubunti 12.04 is supported 'till April 2017 .
[03:24] <michael_j_p> Bashing thanks so much !
[03:24] <realme> Bashing-om: nice
[03:25] <fwaokda_> im trying to use "mysqldump" command in ubuntu, but when i do it acts as if my package for mysql-client-5.6 isn't installed... when i try to install it, it says its already at the latest version. anyone know how to fix this?
[03:26] <cfhowlett> fwaokda, perhaps there's a sibling package that's confused; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:26] <realme> fwaokda_: maybe sudo can help
[03:26] <fwaokda_> tried sudo ;/
[03:27] <fwaokda_> dist-upgrade didn't work either
[03:27] <realme> fwaokda_: try installing sql tools or Mariadb tools
[03:28] <fwaokda_> realme, ok i'll try sql tools
[03:29] <vaio> sql tool like mysql is good
[03:29] <realme> fwaokda_: I think maria is more compatible
[03:30] <vaio> but there is a lot of support for mysql ,,,that you will find handy
[03:32] <lachlanc> Hey Guys, I'm part of a program that takes ex-gov computers to marginalized communities and does a crash course in computer literacy (stripping all the components out of the box and putting it back together then installing xubuntu and a few packages  from the repos) and we want to setup a package mirror with as little configuration as possible for the client computers from a stock iso install, to be used when the work shop is run in places with no accessible
[03:32] <lachlanc> Internet connection. So far I have pulled a copy of the trusty repo with apt-mirror but am unsure of how to host it with the goal of zero config for the client in mind, any thoughts ?
[03:32] <realme> vaio: mariadb is better. Its like libreoffice vs OpenOffice.
[03:35] <cfhowlett> lachlanc, "local ubuntu mirror" >>> http://www.matrix44.net/cms/notes/gnulinux/create-a-local-ubuntu-mirror  https://www.packtpub.com/books/content/create-local-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror-and-apt-cacher
[03:35] <cfhowlett> https://www.packtpub.com/books/content/create-local-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror-and-apt-cacher
[03:36] <k2gremlin> any iptable gurus around?
[03:37] <daftykins> k2gremlin: might be more relevant in #ubuntu-server - although could well be quiet at this time of day
[03:38] <k2gremlin> daftykins, thanks.. didn't even know the channel existed lol
[03:38] <daftykins> ^_^
[03:38] <k2gremlin> Think I am really close to getting my transparent proxy/content filter working
[03:39] <lachlanc> cfhowlett, yeah in the past we have used apt-cacher, but was hoping to find away to do it without modifying sources.list or typing proxy stuff in config files, some participants have never use a computer before
[03:39] <k2gremlin> but some older guides are using stuff from ubuntu 12.0 so its not matching up lol
[03:39] <cfhowlett> lachlanc, you might also check #ubuntu-server
[03:39] <lachlanc> ok thanks
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:41] <gry> good morning lotuspsychje :)
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> gry: hey mate
[03:41] <michael_j_p> good morning lotuspsychje
[03:41] <gry> hello
[03:42] <bubbasaures> lachlanc, Good work, there is local group doing the same thing where I'm at.
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> michael_j_p: hello, did you been able to solve your issue yet?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> michael_j_p: pcsx2 website has some system requierments in their FAQ, did you check that?
[03:44] <michael_j_p> lotuspsychje:  well I really didn't have a problem, I was just fishing to see how that emulator runs on a similar processor as mine:  I should just go ahead and install it and see myself  :)
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | michael_j_p to make things bit faster
[03:45] <michael_j_p> lotuspsychje:  yes, and the system requirements are *barely* above my system - same processor(s) but a wee bit faster processors (in mhz)
[03:45] <faryshta_> hi, this is my .conf for apache. http://pastie.org/9826596 right now if i type an url like project.faryshta/ on my browser it takes me to /git/project/public folder which is cool
[03:45] <lolnopeno> Faryshta, ok.
[03:45] <faryshta_> i would like to add support so that i can type project.admin.faryshta and it takes me to /git/project/admin/public
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> michael_j_p: you can tweak your overal system, to make this emulator go smooth
[03:46] <faryshta_> so how should i change my virtualdocumentroot?
[03:46] <michael_j_p> lotuspsychje:  I am going to install it soon and give it a whirl.  Thanks for the links and the IRC channel links too.
[03:46] <michael_j_p> I'm big on emulators
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> faryshta_: maybe the #httpd guys can also help on that?
[03:47] <lolnopeno> I don't get why im in this channel
[03:47] <lolnopeno> I stopped using ubuntu a while ago.
[03:47] <faryshta_> lotuspsychje can't post there, someone is using my nick Faryshta and i can't change it to use it and identify on nickserv
[03:47] <michael_j_p> lolnopeno:  what OS are you using now ?
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> lolnopeno: install it again, its the most popular Os worldwide
[03:48] <lolnopeno> lotuspsychje, windows is, michael_j_p crunchbang
[03:48] <cfhowlett> lolnopeno, ##windows #osx are waiting for you
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> faryshta_: report in #freenode
[03:48] <lolnopeno> cfhowlett, why #osx?
[03:48] <lolnopeno> Faryshta, /msg nickserv ghost <your nick> <your password>
[03:48] <lolnopeno> if registered
[03:51] <michael_j_p> lolnopeno - did I read correctly that you're using Windows OS ?
[03:52] <lolnopeno> michael_j_p, I do use windows.
[03:52] <lolnopeno> I also use Linux and BSD
[03:52] <lolnopeno> only a fool would use one platform.
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> lets stick to ubuntu support guys
[03:53] <lolnopeno> lotuspsychje, but then that wouldn't be #ubuntu like!
[03:53] <lolnopeno> :)
[03:54] <lolnopeno> michael_j_p, a smart person would run all their platforms in a VM Hypervisor that allows them to control them locally and do resource handovers on the fly.
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> !chat | lolnopeno
[03:54] <lolnopeno> !chat lotuspsychje
[03:55] <lolnopeno> !chat | lotuspsychje
[03:55] <michael_j_p> lolnopeno:  I've ran many windows in my past, and many mac OS in my past.  I only run Ubuntu Linux now.  I've become smart from experience.
[03:55] <tonyt> lol some peopel have too much time on their hands lol
[03:55] <lolnopeno> michael_j_p, #ubuntu-chat?
[03:55] <lolnopeno> or #defocus
[03:55] <lolnopeno> I find #defocus to be more laid back if you want to discuss this
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> lolnopeno: stop the offtopic chat here please
[03:56] <lolnopeno> lotuspsychje, I'm just informing him to join ##defocus
[03:56] <michael_j_p> I agree with lotuspsychje - keep this channel for ubuntu support   ;)
[03:56] <lolnopeno> >ubuntu
[03:58] <KindOne> lolnopeno, #defocus was renamed into ##chat a while ago
[03:58] <lolnopeno> KindOne, I see.
[03:58] <lolnopeno> KindOne, stupid in my opinion
[03:58] <niytro> Bashing-om, back finally
[03:59] <Bashing-om> niytro: Great ! Up and running ? What took so long , lol .
[03:59] <faryshta_> hi, this is my .conf for apache. http://pastie.org/9826596 right now if i type an url like project.faryshta/ on my browser it takes me to /git/project/public folder which is cool
[03:59] <faryshta_> i would like to add support so that i can type project.admin.faryshta and it takes me to /git/project/admin/public
[03:59] <faryshta_> so how should i change my virtualdocumentroot?
[03:59] <KindOne> lolnopeno, sending people into #defocus just points them into ##unavailable (spelling?) or something
[03:59] <lolnopeno> ##defocus
[04:00] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, #httpd
[04:00] <niytro> Bashing-om, had to call ISP my connection is having issues, got a tech coming out to the house to repair a bad line
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> !apache | faryshta_
[04:00] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, i did visited that channel, they haven't been of help. lotuspsychje i know its about apache, the pastie i provided is an apache conf
[04:00] <niytro> Bashing-om, okay so got 14.04.1 installed and thats cool but first problem im running into is removing the second workspace. i go to desktop pager settings and nothing loads up for settings...
[04:01] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, you have to be patient. we're volunteers.
[04:01] <Bashing-om> niytro: Well, that is not all bad .. get that line up to specs, your world be the better , Were you able to get Lubuntu installed ?
[04:02] <niytro> Bashing-om, yes lubuntu 14.04.1 is what im on right now
[04:02] <somsip> faryshta_: create a new virtual host conf with VirualDocumentRoot of /home/faryshta/git/%a/admin/public
[04:02] <somsip> faryshta_: %1 not %a
[04:02] <niytro> Bashing-om, i was saying the first problem im facing is the options for desktop pager arent loading, im trying to remove the second desktop
[04:03] <faryshta_> somsip, something like that but i want it dinamic. something like /home/faryshta/git/%1/%2/public do you know how to do that?
[04:03] <niytro> Bashing-om, i only need one desktop
[04:03] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, you want modrewrite
[04:03] <lolnopeno> iirc
[04:03] <somsip> faryshta_: no
[04:03] <faryshta_> somsip, do you know if vhost_alias has support for more than one wildcard?
[04:03] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, that didn't even make sense to be honest.
[04:04] <somsip> faryshta_: no. apache docs are good
[04:04] <somsip> lolnopeno: hence my suggestion to have another virt conf file
[04:04] <Bashing-om> niytro: I honestly have not used Lubuntu enough to advise on removing a work space, sorry . (xfce4)
[04:04] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, what didn't make sense?
[04:04] <faryshta_> somsip, yes i was diggin on them before i visited irc, irc is always my last resource. so far haven't found an example.
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> niytro: maybe the #lubuntu guys can point you to the right direction
[04:05] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, dynamic virtual directories
[04:05] <niytro> Bashing-om, oh okay whoops
[04:05] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, it do make sense http://pastie.org/9826596 this works right now for one dinamic directory, i want to have two dinamic directories
[04:06] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, the mod is called vhost_alias
[04:06] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, what is the point of having a dynamic directory?
[04:06] <Bashing-om> niytro: Hang loose and let's see who has the experience with Lubuntu, and we both learn .
[04:07] <niytro> Bashing-om, i joined lubu channel
[04:08] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, when you handle several projects on several computers its easier to have dynamic hosts than creating a new virtualhost every time... and restarting the server.
[04:08] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, in some cases restarting the server is a no-no.
[04:08] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, you're using git, right?
[04:09] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, yes. that way to 'create' a new virtualhost i just need to do 'git clone ...' and then i can access it without restarting apache
[04:09] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, that makes no sense..
[04:10] <lolnopeno> why would you access git through multiple virtual servers when you can select what branch/fork/trunk you want to work on?
[04:10] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, it does. it works.
[04:10] <lolnopeno> why would you access git through multiple virtual servers when you can select what branch/fork/trunk you want to work on?
[04:10] <faryshta_> because i have many git projects on my git folder
[04:10] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, your point?
[04:11] <lolnopeno> it's easier to select the one you need than to keep adding virtual hosts for each
[04:11] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, ok i didn't came here to debate about that, i just need to know if someone know how to add more dynamic directories to vhost_alias
[04:12] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, I'm just suggesting that there are easier and more reliable ways.
[04:12] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, I suggest using "man apache2" and #httpd if you want support just for apache2 especially at this time of night.
[04:13] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, again, what i require is a configuration on vhost_alias
[04:14] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, #httpd
[04:14] <somsip> faryshta_: here is your answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14700797/apache2-dynamic-vhost-with-multiple-serveralias
[04:14] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, also to get your nick /msg nickserv ghost Faryshta <your password>
[04:14] <somsip> faryshta_: you'd just setup serveralias to be *.admin.com for the second vhosy declaration
[04:15] <niytro> Bashing-om, looks like lubu channel is dead
[04:16] <faryshta_> somsip, some projects have more than one subfolders, for example the most of them have backend/ and frontend/ subfolders, i want it to be dynamic on both
[04:17] <Bashing-om> niytro: :( ... Hang loose here, see who responds for Lubuntu work spaces .
[04:17] <somsip> faryshta_: yeah, good luck to you. I can't help more.
[04:17] <faryshta_> somsip, so that foo.bar.faryshta take me to git/foor/bar/public
[04:17] <niytro> Bashing-om, gotcha
[04:17] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, that nickserv command was useful thanks
[04:18] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, no problem.
[04:18] <ubuntuser13> how to install aclocal ?
[04:19] <faryshta_> somsip, i found it by messing around blindly. it was indeed git/%1/%2/public i don't know why it works but does.
[04:19] <somsip> !find aclocal | ubuntuser13
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuser13: can you explain what you are trying to do?
[04:20] <somsip> ubuntuser13: looks like autotools-dev and automake
[04:21] <ubuntuser13> ubottu: actually i'm trying to install klavaro from klavaro-code and it gives me errors: like configure.ac:10:   'automake --add-missing' can install 'ar-lib'
[04:21] <ubuntuser13> configure.ac:11: error: required file './ltmain.sh' not found
[04:21] <ubuntuser13> make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1
[04:22] <somsip> ubuntuser13: why from code? Why not from the repo?
[04:22] <ubuntuser13> somsip: for testing in my regional language.
[04:23] <somsip> ubuntuser13: fair enough. So, installing autotools-dev and automake should give you aclocal from what I see on stackoverflow
[04:24] <ubuntuser13> somsip: ok
[04:25] <ubuntuser13> somsip: these packages already installed on system.
[04:25] <nicholas> hello
[04:25] <somsip> ubuntuser13: and is aclocal available? Is aclocal really what you need?
[04:26] <nicholas> anyone know of a good, lightweight dock that has indicator plugins (like network, battery, etc.)?
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !info docky | nicholas
[04:26] <nicholas> docky is nice, but the battery plugin doesn't work
[04:26] <nicholas> I am using cairo dock, but crashes
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: how about cairo-dock then?
[04:26] <somsip> nicholas: not used it but saw this recently http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/how-to-add-a-dock-to-ubuntu-desktop-plank
[04:27] <somsip> ubuntuser13: is automake also installed?
[04:27] <ubuntuser13> somsip: how to solve ./ltmain.sh not found?
[04:27] <nicholas> oh isn't plank the dock from elementary?
[04:27] <nicholas> I'll give it a shot
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: you can also combine with the indicator section, and use network, battery there
[04:27] <somsip> ubuntuser13: no idea. that's one for the package maintainers
[04:27] <somsip> nicholas: looks like now available for ubuntu
[04:28] <ubuntuser13> somsip: automake already  installed.
[04:28] <nicholas> yeh I see
[04:28] <somsip> ubuntuser13: no idea then. All answers on the web I've seen point to those 3 packages
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: try apt-cache search indicator for more interesting indicators
[04:29] <ubuntuser13> somsip: no worries, thankyou so much for help.
[04:29] <nicholas> what does apt-cache do? how do I use it? I am a new user. all I know is apt-get install, apt-get remove, apt-get purge
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: it searches repos for your search string
[04:30] <nicholas> any examples?
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: apt-cache search yourpackagename
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: in your case, apt-cache search dock or indicator
[04:32] <Bashing-om> nicholas: "apt-cache offers a standard regex based search on the package name and description. " For your interest : http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites ....
[04:34] <SchrodingersScat> nicholas: also apt-cache show pakagename
[04:34] <nicholas> I can't seem to find a battery indicator for plank
[04:35] <nicholas> how is dockbarx?
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: you can always try conky, to get more network/cpu/battery info to your desktop and combine with a clean dock
[04:38] <nicholas> I guess... but if I use conky, I have to go to my desktop to check
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: you have to check your dock on your desktop too right?
[04:39] <nicholas> I use autohide
[04:39] <nicholas> so when I put my mouse down, it pulls it up
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: thats the whole idea of conky, to get more info to your desktop..thats up to you what you want?
[04:40] <Dresk> I initially set Ubuntu to require me logging in when booting up, but I don't want that anymore - how does one revert that change?
[04:41] <nicholas> i wanna access it in any application without minimizing
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> Dresk: you can set autologin in useraccounts
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: here, check some ideas from deviantart: http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/?qh=&section=&global=1&q=ubuntu+dock&offset=24
[04:42] <Dresk> lotuspsychje: Cool, thanks
[04:43] <nicholas> Sorry to say, but I'm using XFCe
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: thats allright, then search deviantart for xubuntu dock
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: or xubuntu conky
[04:46] <nicholas> if I search xubuntu dock, everyone is using docky, cairo-dock, etc. and as I said before, I want to access the stuff from any app, not just the desktop
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: not sure if i follow you mate
[04:48] <nicholas> ok: you know what auto hide is?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> yep
[04:48] <nicholas> lets say I am browsing apps or something and have lots of windows open
[04:48] <nicholas> and I want to make sure my battery is some-what full
[04:49] <nicholas> if I have conky, I have to close all the windows and open then maximize them all over again. but, if I have an autohidng dock, I cant just bring my mouse down to the dock, and it can show me what I need
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> ok got ya
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> for what i remember docky had a battery icon no?
[04:51] <nicholas> I could add it, but didn't add to the dock
[04:51] <nicholas> it also crashed when I unplugged my charging cable
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: well i never tested it on xubuntu, but ran pretty stable for me on ubuntu
[04:52] <nicholas> https://bugs.launchpad.net/docky/+bug/481241 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/docky/+bug/630799
[04:53] <nicholas> I really wish it didn't
[04:53] <nicholas> it's a great dock
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: wich version of docky are you on?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: and xubuntu version?
[04:54] <nicholas> xubuntu 14.04 trusty tahr lts
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !info docky trusty
[04:54] <nicholas> and docky is the newest from the repos
[04:55] <nicholas> the ubuntu repos*
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: and it still crashes battery icon on your version?
[04:56] <nicholas> yes
[04:56] <nicholas> :'-(
[04:57] <optrusty> Hi guys I dont know if this is the proper channel, but
[04:58] <yourbeau> guys how remove a package along with all its dependencies with aptitude or apt-get ?
[04:58] <nicholas> apt-get autoremove
[04:58] <nicholas> I'm pretty sure
[04:58] <nicholas> so it would be, for example, sudo apt-get purge docky, then sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:59] <optrusty> I was wonder is it possible to install Ubuntu phone to my Nokia Lumia 521. My phone is pretty much ARM and EFI
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: there's a docky script to bypass your issue: https://www.linux-compatible.com/tutorial/docky-closes-after-waking-suspend-ubuntu
[05:00] <daftykins> optrusty: highly unlikely, however #ubuntu-touch is the channel for that
[05:00] <nicholas> yeh optrusty, not too many devices are compatible with ubuntu
[05:01] <nicholas> and lotuspsychje, how about the battery plugin not working?
[05:02] <OerHeks> optrusty, is it ARM8? if not, no.
[05:02] <optrusty> Nicholas Android these days always letting the dev install all they want while windows gets money just to sideload 10 apps
[05:03] <optrusty> OerHeks all I know that the proccesser is a Qualcomm snapdragon with 512MB of ram
[05:06] <optrusty> OerHeks still there
[05:07] <OerHeks> optrusty, if it is not ARM8, then no
[05:07] <snappy> is it possible to reproduce an exact build of a (14.04 LTS) debian package from  the orig + debian sources?
[05:07] <snappy> and by exact, i mean the newly built package has the exact same md5sum file as the one provided by ubuntu
[05:08] <yourbeau> nicholas, I did apt-get install openbox ; it installed a lot of packages
[05:09] <yourbeau> when I did apt-get purge openbox
[05:09] <yourbeau> it did not remove any packages but just openbox
[05:09] <yourbeau> i did apt-get autoremove
[05:09] <yourbeau> and nothing
[05:09] <ki7mt> snappy, yes, it happens all the time, it fact it should do if your using the source package from the repos to build it.
[05:11] <OerHeks> snappy, why would a debian build give the same md5sum as ubuntu sources? you must be lucky i guess
[05:11] <EriC^^> yourbeau: they aren't that many packages, just a bunch of libraries, is there anything wrong with the pc?
[05:11] <niytro> Bashing-om, okay so i solved my brightness problem in terminal
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !info xfce4-battery-plugin | nicholas maybe this can help?
[05:12] <snappy> ki7mt: i downloaded: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/proftpd-basic (orig + debian sources); extracted the orig, and inside the debian source, ran dpkg-buildpackage -- unpacked the resulting deb and compared the md5sums from control.tar.gz to the original package provided in the apt repository
[05:12] <snappy> the md5sums differ which means the build differs -- even though its the exact same version.
[05:12] <niytro> Bashing-om, xrandr -q | grep " connected"    then    xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 0.5
[05:12] <yourbeau> EriC^^, nothing wrong of course
[05:12] <yourbeau> does anyone know how to make LXDE as beautiful as this picture ? http://trisquel.info/files/Screenshot%20from%202015-01-10%2014:57:26_0.png
[05:13] <Bashing-om> niytro: Laptop ? you may share that solution with the channel .
[05:13] <niytro> yes old toshiba satellite m45
[05:13] <EriC^^> yourbeau: that doesn't look like lxde
[05:13] <yourbeau> EriC^^, ok
[05:13] <snappy> i guess what i shoudl be reading is this: https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds
[05:14] <EriC^^> yourbeau: actually it does, nevermind
[05:14] <yourbeau> EriC^^, lol do yu know what he did ?
[05:14] <ki7mt> snappy, then something is different. If launchpad builds a package and I build the same package with pbuilder, using the same source should produce the same results. Why yours isn't doing that, I don't know.
[05:14] <niytro> Bashing-om, just say it or put it down somewhere?
[05:14] <EriC^^> yourbeau: nope
[05:14] <yourbeau> I think its docky or something
[05:15] <snappy> ki7mt: but its reasonable to expect dpkg-buildpackage (should it succeed) to build byte for byte the same package right?
[05:15] <snappy> (well maybe not the .deb file but the nested data.tar.xz file)
[05:15] <nicomachus> anyone ever have trouble mounting an Android phone?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: get some nice ideas here: http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/?qh=&section=&global=1&q=lubuntu
[05:16] <yourbeau> lotuspsychje, ok thanks
[05:16] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, describe Y)OUR issue ...
[05:16] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, What ubuntu release, 12.04 per chance?
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: you need the android mount tools
[05:16] <nicomachus> 14.04
[05:16] <snappy> (hm let me try pbuilder, that's designed for reproducible builds)
[05:16] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, What android release?
[05:16] <Bashing-om> niytro: Adjusting the brightness on a laptop is a common issue, Perhaps othjers here would like to know your solution . In 1 consise statement, please.
[05:16] <ki7mt> snappy, It should produce the same package, yes.
[05:16] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, android-tools-adb
[05:16] <nicomachus> already enabled usb debugging on the device.
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: tnx
[05:16] <nicomachus> android 4.4.4
[05:16] <nicomachus> (fucking waiting on lollipop...)
[05:17] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, language!!!!
[05:17] <nicomachus> Sorry, cfhowlett.
[05:17] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, Should mount without any tools, you have the usb you set in the developers options?
[05:17] <nicomachus> Yep.
[05:18] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, kitkat + android-tools-adb on the ubuntu side
[05:18] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, Strange.
[05:18] <nicomachus> Getting error: "Unable to open MTP device '[usb:003,009]'"
[05:18] <bubbasaures> have not added any tools since 12.04 here
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !info mtpfs | nicomachus
[05:19] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: I believe I already installed that a few days ago trying to resolve this.
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: doublecheck phone if you got mtp
[05:19] <nicomachus> Found it on AskUbuntu or StackExchange or something.
[05:20] <nicomachus> Phone says Media device [MTP] connected
[05:20] <nicomachus> Also says USB connected and USB debugging connected
[05:20] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, Two ways to communicate with the computer one is media, forget the other.
[05:21] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, what are you attempting to do with this connection?
[05:21] <daftykins> MTP and PTP i think, picture transfer protocol
[05:21] <bubbasaures> that's it
[05:22] <nicomachus> Open it in the filesystem and transfer music files.
[05:22] <daftykins> someone said something about udev causing issues with android MTP devices a bit ago
[05:23] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, not quite so neat, but you can that with airdroid
[05:23] <niytro> For anyone who is unable to change Brightness on their laptop display it can be done via terminal by doing the following. Type xrandr -q | grep " connected" and the output should say something similar to LVDS1 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 331mm x 207mm. LVDS1 is your display so now you can enter xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 0.5    1.0 is full and it can go down to 0.0 so be careful and above 1.
[05:23] <niytro> 0 as well. Adjust the value to your preference.
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> i remember that green android icon in ubuntu, think it was go-mtpfs
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> i was able to mount the android with that icon
[05:24] <nicomachus> cfhowlett: I know... but the USB 3.0 transfers the FLAC files so much faster than cloud.
[05:24] <xangua> I had better results with this lotuspsychje http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[05:24] <xangua> back when I use 12.04
[05:24] <Bashing-om> niytro: Thanks, that solution do ring a bell .
[05:25] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: Will give that try.
[05:25] <nicomachus> a try*
[05:25] <xangua> nicomachus: what ubuntu release are you using¿
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> xangua: nice one
[05:25] <niytro> Bashing-om, now i just need to figure out how to script commands that i can assign to hotkeys
[05:25] <nicomachus> 14.04
[05:25] <yourbeau> is Ubuntu fully opensource ?
[05:25] <niytro> Bashing-om, u know something like that
[05:26] <yourbeau> I mean if we replace the kernel with linux-libre
[05:26] <nicomachus> yourbeau: yes
[05:26] <xangua> nicomachus: then mtp should work out the box
[05:26] <yourbeau> and use only Main repo
[05:26] <nicomachus> xangua: clearly. but it's not.
[05:26] <yourbeau> nicomachus, because kernel has non-free osftware and other repo have non-free software
[05:26] <bubbasaures> yourbeau, vanilla install yes.
[05:26] <xangua> yourbeau: there is an ubuntu based distro the fsf recommends, don't remember it's name
[05:27] <Bashing-om> niytro: That is a deep subject for another time. I am done for this session. See all yall later .
[05:27] <niytro> Bashing-om, thanks so much
[05:28] <Bashing-om> niytro: :) Great to 'meet' ya ... see ya later .
[05:28] <niytro> Bashing-om, same to you
[05:29] <EriC^^> niytro: you want to assign scripts to keyboard shortcuts?
[05:30] <Guest93204> hi anybody here wanna help me install ubuntu
[05:30] <Guest93204> im having a problem cus i think my laptop is too new
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: can you tell us where you are stuck?
[05:31] <Guest93204> after i boot from usb the screen flickers like crazy
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: i would go for what xanga suggested, seems the most updated way
[05:31] <Guest93204> and if i leave it alone to long the screen blacks out
[05:31] <nicomachus> Thanks.
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: ubuntu version please?
[05:31] <Guest93204> 14.04 the new current one
[05:32] <nicomachus> Are you able to get to the BIOS and select a boot option?
[05:32] <Guest93204> ive been following youtube videos but no one else has the same problem
[05:32] <Guest93204> yea
[05:32] <Guest93204> i get to the screen that ask for live trial,install and such
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: what kind of grafix card you having?
[05:32] <Guest93204> after i make a choice it still works but the screen  flickers
[05:32] <nicholas> dock with indicator plugins and stuff? both docky and cairo dock crash. Any alternativces? my main goal is to replace the xfce4-panel
[05:33] <Guest93204> the laptop im trying to install it on is asus q502L
[05:33] <nicholas> anyone know a dock with indicator plugins and stuff? both docky and cairo dock crash. Any alternativces? my main goal is to replace the xfce4-panel
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: did you see the battery plugin for xubuntu i triggered?
[05:34] <nicholas> ? I was gone for like 15 mins
[05:34] <nicomachus> Guest93204: are you going straight to "install" or are you going to live trial first?
[05:34] <nicholas> sorry
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: what is default Os on that asus? win8?
[05:34] <Guest93204> i tried both
[05:34] <Kion> I installed the compiz config settings and the fire effect is gone, does anyone know why it is no logner there?
[05:34] <Guest93204> the live trial flickers less but it still flickers
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !info xfce4-battery-plugin | nicholas
[05:34] <nicomachus> weirRrRrRd...
[05:34] <bubbasaures> nicholas, Didn't someone link you to a dock called plank?
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Kion: you need to install the plugins
[05:35] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Guest93204 try this
[05:35] <nicholas> yeah, but plank doesn't have the indicators I need
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Kion: fire and wobbly windows and such are now in plugins-extra or something
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> !info unity-plugin-extras
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:36] <Kion> lotuspsychje: I already have them installed, actually have the wobbly windows activated and working
[05:36] <xangua> nicholas: what's wrong with xfce panel¿
[05:36] <bubbasaures> nicholas, Ah, rarely does cairo crash  here not in a long time anyway, strange.
[05:36] <nicholas> to me, it looks terribel
[05:36] <nicomachus> xangua: this one was up to date? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[05:36] <xangua> you can make it look like a dock, as you already were told nicholas
[05:36] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, It is not check it's web page.
[05:37] <xangua> nicomachus: as I said it should work out of the box in 14.04
[05:37] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, 2 years old ...
[05:37] <nicholas> yeah, but I kinda like a pupup animation and more of a dock-like interface
[05:37] <cfhowlett> nicholas, 14.04.1 is stable ... y u no upgrade???
[05:37] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, ^^^^
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: you could also test enlightment E17, maybe its got more stable battery monitor
[05:38] <nicholas> maybe, hows the cpu usage compare to xfce4?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> !info e17 | nicholas
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: you can test from your existing xubuntu
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> maybe someone else knows window managers with battery icons working?
[05:39] <nicholas> smaybe
[05:40] <snappy> ki7mt: thanks for the hint about pbuilder, looks like that's more what i needed.
[05:40] <Guest93204> i dont know what im looking at or how to do this :/
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: try F1 at your usb ubuntu boot, to get into nomodeset
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: read the trigger from daftykins
[05:41] <cfhowlett> Guest93204, https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf
[05:41] <daftykins> Guest93204: boot to when you see the 'try, install... yada yada, then press F6 i think it is and enable nomodeset.
[05:42] <wisag0d> ;;/exit
[05:42] <Guest93204> yea im at the try ubuntu menu
[05:42] <Guest93204> f1 and f6 doesnt seem to do anythign
[05:43] <daftykins> cfhowlett: wow, i wish that was in the topic
[05:43] <cfhowlett> daftykins, gotta be a way ...
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: try F1 before the purple ubuntu screen, and keep hitting until you get some options
[05:43] <bubbasaures> Guest93204, does it look like the second picture, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[05:44] <Guest93204> not at all
[05:44] <Guest93204> its white text on black scren
[05:44] <daftykins> Guest93204: ah you're booting in EFI mode then
[05:44] <bubbasaures> Guest93204, This a dual boot?
[05:44] <bubbasaures> yeppers
[05:44] <Guest93204> gnu grub version at the top
[05:44] <daftykins> user hasn't installed yet
[05:45] <daftykins> Guest93204: press 'e' on 'try', then add "nomodeset" in the place my link showed.
[05:45] <daftykins> Guest93204: (after quiet splash)
[05:45] <jrg> well... kubuntu sure has come a long way heh... not sure if it's because of kde or because of ubuntu
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> jrg: evolution :p
[05:45] <jrg> lotuspsychje: i suppose so. i was going to try out the plasma5 edition but chose the more stable 4.x branch
[05:46] <Guest93204> can you link again
[05:46] <jrg> personally i don't see why anybody would use win8 vs kubuntu other than the fact you can't use your iphone/pad/pod
[05:46] <jrg> sure wish someone could fix that :/
[05:46] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Guest93204
[05:46] <function9x> jrg: kubuntu is awesome, plasma 4 works well. plasma 5 still ongoing
[05:47] <jrg> function9x: yah. not complaining. it works quite well... at the very least the interface is better than win8/10
[05:47] <jrg> to me it's pretty much linux based win7 heh
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> jrg: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/kde-plasma-5-released
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> jrg: wich problem do you have with iphones/ipad?
[05:48] <jrg> lotuspsychje: oh. seems amarok doesn't like to talk to it very well
[05:48] <jrg> ie: sync songs etc
[05:48] <jrg> last time i tried it i had to flash my iphone heh
[05:48] <jrg> although i haven't tried in quite a while.. but this is a bit expected wtih apple things
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> jrg: i think rythmbox or banshee has ways to sync ipods
[05:49] <jrg> ah. might have been rythmbox
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> jrg: you also wine/playonlinux itunes
[05:49] <jrg> lotuspsychje: itunes works in wine?
[05:49] <jrg> if i knew that i honestly would have tried that first heh
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> jrg: not lastest version, but some version does
[05:49] <jrg> blah. i bet that older version will be impossible to find
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> jrg: maybe check the playonlinx database
[05:50] <jrg> apple probably combed the internet and deleted all of it heh
[05:50] <jrg> yeah i'll check that out.. let me see if i can find it now
[05:50] <Guest93204> the text on my screen isn't the same as the picture
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> jrg: i think it will be itunes 7 or so
[05:50] <daftykins> i was under the impression itunes is a no-go now
[05:50] <Guest93204> i got 4 lines total
[05:51] <jrg> oh. playonlinux keeps a repo of this stuff?
[05:51] <Guest93204> the first being {setparams 'try Ybuntu without installing'}
[05:51] <daftykins> Guest93204: like i said, press 'e' on the 'try' option, then you'll get another screen. go down with the cursors to where it reads 'quiet splash' and put a space then 'nomodeset' after those two words.
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: did you disable secureboot and fastboot in bios?
[05:51] <daftykins> secureboot doesn't need to be off, lotuspsychje
[05:51] <daftykins> not since 12.04 :>
[05:51] <function9x> jrg: yeah just like win7, I had the iphone 4S, used it for a couple of years, but it was too much of a hassle to get it to work with linux. I upgraded to a droid(GS5) phone instead. Plays well with linux
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: he's dualbooting?
[05:52] <Guest93204> so heres what it says in that section after the -- or before////     boot=casper quiet splash --
[05:52] <jrg> function9x: yah :/ well.. not going to swap phones heh
[05:52] <jrg> maybe if an ubuntu phone actually finally comes out
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> jrg: https://www.playonlinux.com/en/supported_apps.html
[05:53] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: well, once an attempt to install is made, yeah i guess so
[05:53] <daftykins> Guest93204: do you intend to use ubuntu as well as windows 8?
[05:53] <Guest93204> no
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> jrg: shows itunes 10 :p
[05:53] <Guest93204> wanna learn linux by forcing myself no other option
[05:54] <jrg> lotuspsychje: wow sure does
[05:54] <jrg> let me try it out heh
[05:54] <jrg> playonlinux sure does install a lot of :i386 stuff
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> jrg: yeah some requiered packages
[05:55] <jrg> if itunes will work tho... and with my iphone... then kubuntu ftw heh
[05:55] <jrg> that's the only thing i could never get working
[05:55] <jrg> too bad there is no way to use some sort of virtualbox hackery to just install libs etc into a windows vm and run it that way heh
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> jrg: well there's (almost) a solution for everything in ubuntu :p
[05:56] <jrg> lotuspsychje: haven't gotten it working yet :P
[05:56] <jrg> does playonlinux automatically grab the files it needs?
[05:56] <daftykins> Guest93204: fair enough
[05:56] <jrg> looks like it does
[05:56] <daftykins> Guest93204: are you sure it's not a Q502LA ?
[05:56] <gry> what exactly is not working in 'run windows in a vm on ubuntu' approach?
[05:56] <gry> it is a good host os, i say
[05:56] <jrg> gry: oh that will work fine... i can just use an xp vm or something
[05:57] <jrg> but that's a big chunk of worthlessness if all i use it for is itunes
[05:57] <gry> "<jrg> too bad there is no way to use some sort of virtualbox hackery to just install libs etc into a windows vm and run it that way heh" <-- i don't parse this line
[05:57] <Guest93204> pretty sure unless they mislabled the box and sticker under the laptop
[05:57] <jrg> gry: i mean have it so you can use virtualbox to run only itunes
[05:57] <jrg> minus windows itself heh
[05:57] <gry> aa. use colinux
[05:57] <UbuDark1410> ubuntu 14.10 work good by side win 8.1
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> jrg: i remember playing with libmobiledevice once to get ipad sync
[05:57] <jrg> like some bare libs method that makes a call to virtualbox
[05:58] <jrg> lotuspsychje: i think that's what rythmbox uses doesn't it?
[05:58] <jrg> it broke my iphone
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:58] <Guest93204> did i do something wrong with the computer bios?
[05:58] <jrg> not broke broke.. but it usre messed up my music db
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> jrg: get yourself a nice ubuntu phone :p
[05:58] <jrg> lotuspsychje: i would but the old nexus aren't worth what people are asking for them because of ubuntu
[05:58] <jrg> and the new ones aren't out yet
[05:58] <jrg> if ever
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> jrg: soon
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !touch | jrg
[05:59] <jrg> lotuspsychje: i'll believe it when i see it ;) people said the same of pandora
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> jrg: BQ aquarius will launch ubuntu phone soon to europe
[06:00] <jrg> lotuspsychje: which means they'll be on ebay for $5,000 for 12 months as they sell out
[06:00] <jrg> not to mention i'm sure they wno't have proper US bands to cross teh ocean with
[06:00] <jrg> and no warranty being out of region
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> jrg: lets stay ontopic :p
[06:01] <protopopulus> Hi everybody!
[06:01] <jrg> but yes. if one actually comes out i will get it to go with my (k)ubuntu laptop
[06:01] <jrg> although. aren't ubuntu phones supposed to dock and be like a desktop?
[06:01] <protopopulus> Sombody knows how to fix xorg in 12.04?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> !xorg | protopopulus
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> jrg: join #ubuntu-touch to discuss mate
[06:02] <jrg> oh
[06:02] <protopopulus> Yep... I knew it
[06:02] <daftykins> Guest93204: so "...casper quiet splash nomodeset..."
[06:02] <jrg> lotuspsychje: ssorry heh.. no thanks.. i'll join ubuntu-touch after they release an actual device that i can buy ... then i'll ask the questions heh.. in the meantime i'm working on getting itunes to work in ubuntu
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:03] <Guest93204> ok then how do i get out of the menu
[06:03] <daftykins> Guest93204: do you understand what i mean to do? it's then ctrl+x or F10 to boot after entering that word
[06:03] <Guest93204> i dont know what it is suppose to do but im doing as your telling me
[06:04] <Guest93204> but hey looks like it worked yay
[06:04] <Guest93204> no more flickering
[06:04] <jrg> alrighty
[06:04]  * jrg waits for playonlinux to refresh itself
[06:04] <jrg> this will be pretty awesome if it works in ubuntu
[06:05] <Guest93204> is the internet suppose to work on this live trial, i am assuming so because i saw this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2246701
[06:05] <daftykins> Guest93204: are you typing from the computer you downloaded ubuntu on?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> jrg: before you get too happy, make a good backup on your iphone lol
[06:05] <jrg> tbh tho... the no itunes thing isn't that big of a deal considering i use plex for everything
[06:05] <Guest93204> no another one
[06:05] <jrg> but you never know :)
[06:06] <daftykins> Guest93204: press ctrl+alt+t and type "ip a" and tell me if you see another thing than 'lo' and 'eth0' with a bunch of info beside
[06:07] <jrg> lmao!
[06:07] <jrg> lotuspsychje: "Wine does not support USB yet. You will not able to sync your iDevices with PlayOnLinux. Sorry
[06:07] <Guest93204> yea i see lo and etho in there but theres a lot of text the comes after both of them
[06:07] <jrg> bad english aside.. seems like it doesn't work
[06:08] <daftykins> Guest93204: alright, sounds like your wireless isn't coming up indeed. type "lspci" and tell me if you see a line with "intel 7xxx wifi"
[06:08] <Guest93204> "eth0: <no carrier, broadcast,multicast, up>"
[06:08] <jrg> ah well.. i guess i'll just stick to syncing with plex :)
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> jrg: that error showed on main itunes page on playonlinux yes
[06:09] <jrg> lotuspsychje: oh sure does. missed that part
[06:09] <jrg> well.. i'll check back in about 5 years heh
[06:09] <jrg> hopefully by then i'll have an ubuntu phone and this will all be moot :)
[06:09] <Guest93204> no i dont see that
[06:10] <daftykins> Guest93204: do you see anything with 'wifi' or 'network controller' in?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> jrg: maybe read some here: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=21302
[06:10] <Guest93204> yea
[06:11] <daftykins> Guest93204: what's the device name?
[06:11] <Guest93204> network controller: intel corperation wireless 7260 (rev cb)
[06:11] <daftykins> alright so it is intel 7xxx :)
[06:11] <jrg> well.. maybe wine will support usb some day
[06:12] <daftykins> Guest93204: your best bet is to install and then update the system by plugging into your router with a network cable. can you do that?
[06:12] <Guest93204> maybe depends on how fast i can install it
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> jrg: maybe try itunes 7 to test
[06:13] <Guest93204> im assuming double click install ubuntu on desktop and follow step?
[06:13] <kitten_> goodnight daftykins
[06:13] <daftykins> Guest93204: yep, then if you're sure about killing windows 8, select to erase entire disk when installing
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> jrg: and some usefull info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[06:17] <jrg> lotuspsychje: yeah i was reading that
[06:17] <jrg> still just not worth it. just seems buggy at best.. like i said.. no big deal.. i have a lifetime plexpass
[06:17] <jrg> i'll just use that
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:17] <jrg> my plex server > iphone anyways
[06:18] <jrg> if i was going to use a music service i'd probably use the MS one anyways... although i could never get it to play in an ubuntu browser
[06:18] <jrg> never quite figured that out
[06:19] <Guest93204> when i plug into the rounter im not gonna be next to the computer im reading this from so what do i do and type when i connect to the rounter
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: is it installing yet?
[06:20] <Guest93204> yea
[06:20] <daftykins> install, let it finish, shutdown... unplug the flash drive, turn it back on...
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: great, you made a good choice :p welcome to ubuntu
[06:20] <Guest93204> do i restart now or continue testing
[06:20] <daftykins> if it boots successfully, lotuspsychje can help you fully update over the wired network as i must sleep :)
[06:21] <Guest93204> and thanks feels a little more profesional haha
[06:21] <daftykins> continue testing then shutdown
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: restart only when you got a prompt, install has finished
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: nite nite
[06:21] <daftykins> :D ty, have a good shift o/
[06:21] <Guest93204> dammit i did what daftykins said and hit contie
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:22] <Guest93204> so what now then continue to fix the wifi or restart
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: you still in live session, testing?
[06:22] <Guest93204> yea
[06:23] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: oh before i go, if a dist-upgrade doesn't bring the wifi on, nor modprobe iwlwifi, it'll be - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242147&page=2&p=13112184#post13112184
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: but did you install ubuntu to hd meanwhile?
[06:23] <Guest93204> yea
[06:23] <Guest93204> i finished the installation process
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: if it finished, you can reboot safe
[06:25] <Guest93204> oh god the flickering
[06:25] <Guest93204> its back and hitting like a mad man
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: can you boot into your ubuntu desktop?
[06:26] <Guest93204> yea
[06:26] <Guest93204> im at desktop
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: check out wich driver is loaded at your additional drivers
[06:27] <Guest93204> how would i go about doing that
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: hit the main ubuntu icon in your left upepr corner
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: and search for the hardware icon
[06:29] <Guest93204> 3 things show up search in amazon, simple scan, see more scopes
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: at the bottom you can search applications
[06:29] <Guest93204> i think i found it
[06:29] <Guest93204> it says no additional drivers available
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: hmm, ok
[06:30] <Guest93204> in a software & updates box
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: can you open a terminal and type sudo lshw -C video
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: and write the name of your card + what shows after driver=
[06:31] <Guest93204> produvt : haswe;;-ULT intergrated graphics controller
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> and driver=
[06:32] <Guest93204> driver=i915 latancy=0
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:32] <tes_> \server irc.worldnet.net
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: your asus, is this an old machine or rather new?
[06:33] <Guest93204> new got it today
[06:33] <Guest93204> at best buy
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: and you still have the flickering right now?
[06:33] <Guest93204> yes
[06:33] <Guest93204> it was fixed earlier so it should be fixable
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: do you have specs of that machine somewhere, or a link?
[06:35] <Guest93204> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-2-in-1-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black/5827053.p?id=1219163970040&skuId=5827053
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> ok intel hd grafix
[06:38] <explodes> Hey dudes. Using lm-sensors, and having searched for all sensors, I'm getting a lot of alarms. What prompted me to do this was 1.5hr of gaming, the frame rate drops every minutes for a few seconds
[06:38] <explodes> I cant' believe the numbers I'm seeing, it must be some kind of error
[06:38] <explodes> http://pastie.org/9826817
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: maybe check the intel website for latest linux grafix drivers
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset > Guest93204 or read the grub nomodeset edit again
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: also do a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade from terminal
[06:44] <Guest93204> wifi is still broken though im hooked up to my other computer with a brdge network
[06:45] <Guest93204> so i ran gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub and it said gksudo is not currently installed
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: you can sudo gedit also
[06:46] <Guest93204> just type "sudo gedit" in terminal?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: no, the whole line you pasted
[06:47] <Guest93204> ok
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> but sudo instead of gksudo
[06:47] <OerHeks>  If you are to run graphical applications as root, please use sudo -H or pkexec.
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: after you edited grub, save and sudo update-grub
[06:49] <bitt> hello
[06:49] <Guest93204> ITS GONE  is what i almost said its happening still but a lot less
[06:50] <BloodyDragon20> how to i fix the error #1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[06:51] <Guest93204> am i suppose to do this one "quiet splash nomodeset acpi_osi=\"Linux\""   or   "quiet splash nomodeset" cus i did "quiet splash nomodeset"
[06:52] <BloodyDragon20> how do i fix this error http://pastebin.com/NXJ9wwgJ
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: nomodeset would do the trick yes, did you sudo update-grub after?
[06:53] <Guest93204> yea
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: ok then try reboot, see if it fixes
[06:53] <Guest93204> ok im still upgrading from another terminal so ill restart after its done
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:55] <ki7mt> BloodyDragon20, first of, what is distro, type of box is it, server, desktop etc? What was the command you tried to use too connect with?
[06:56] <BloodyDragon20> ki7mt the server box is running  and we are using putty to do everything. and its for phpmyadmin
[06:56] <OerHeks> BloodyDragon20, see anser #1 http://askubuntu.com/questions/401449/error-104528000-access-denied-for-user-rootlocalhost-using-password-no  use the -p option ?
[06:57] <BloodyDragon20> OerHeks tried it
[06:57] <ki7mt> BloodyDragon20, did you setup MySQL password correctly?
[06:57] <BloodyDragon20> yes
[06:58] <ki7mt> BloodyDragon20, In any case resetting it may solve the issue: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[06:58] <ki7mt> Using 'NO" doesn't seem correct to me for a PW
[06:59] <BloodyDragon20> ki7mt so reseting mysql should fix phpmyadmin
[06:59] <BloodyDragon20> ki7mt the os is is CentOS
[07:00] <Guest93204> sweet looks like you were right restart did the trick
[07:00] <ki7mt> BloodyDragon20, phpmyadmin has to connect to the SQL DB the same as you would do manually, so if either the SQL PW is fubar, or the PW your using in phpmyadmin is wrong, that's the result you'd see.
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Guest93204
[07:01] <Guest93204> now all thats left is wif issue yay
[07:01] <ki7mt> BloodyDragon20, This is support for Ubuntu, but it doesn't matter, the connection to the DB is the same.
[07:01] <BloodyDragon20> #CentOS
[07:02] <BloodyDragon20> ki7mt then what is the room for centos
[07:03] <ki7mt> Yes, #centos or #centos-devel, there are several
[07:05] <code__> hi guys
[07:06] <code__> I am looking for a method to encrypt my external HD, but to be able to decrypted on Windows, Mac and Linux. Does anyone knows any software?
[07:07] <snappy> ki7mt: so i can get reproducible builds working now with pbuilder; can you suggest the path of least resistance to apply a patch to an existing .orig.tar.gz .debian.tar.gz and .dsc files? I extracted the debian.tar.gz, changed a few files, bumped the changelog, repackaged the tarball, but i need to regenerate the dsc and im not sure if there's a tool for that.
[07:10] <Guest93204> do you guys know how to fix the wifi problem or should i just follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242147&p=13112184#post13112184
[07:10] <ki7mt> snappy, Path of least resistance, well that depends, who's the original maintainer? If Debian, send a bug in with the patch, if Ubuntu only, bug with patch on launchpad. Make sure you Cc: the relevant groups owning the package.
[07:11] <AirstrikeIvanov> so i am on the ubuntu live-usb and considering installing
[07:11] <AirstrikeIvanov> but no idea how to do a few things like format one of my spare linux drives so both linux and Windows can read and use it
[07:11] <ki7mt> snappy, and for the .dsc, it's debuild -S -k<your pgp key>
[07:11] <snappy> ah thanks
[07:13] <__my_name__> Hi
[07:13] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, Make it a NTFS for both to read.
[07:13] <AirstrikeIvanov> ah, do i want to use MBR or GPT partition scheming?
[07:13] <AirstrikeIvanov> still looking over the particulars of the boot loaders and such once i get it all installed
[07:13] <ki7mt> snappy, dont forget to : export DEBFULLNAME="Yourname" export DEBEMAIL="email-address"
[07:14] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, What is there now on the computer?
[07:14] <bubbasaures> mbr or gpt that is
[07:16] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, I don't think it's going to matter on an external, so what you like is fine.
[07:17] <AirstrikeIvanov> bubbasaures: I have a 1TB drive with Windows 10 Technical Preview on it; it's my primary OS - I installed two more SATA drives, 300/250GB each
[07:17] <AirstrikeIvanov> not externals either way
[07:17] <AirstrikeIvanov> i installed the drives internally
[07:17] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, I was just curious if you where gpt on the computer.
[07:18] <al_nz1> Evening!!!!
[07:18] <al_nz1> Any networking experts here?
[07:18] <al_nz1> I cant ping my gateway or anything else on my lan
[07:18] <bubbasaures> !any | al_nz1
[07:18] <al_nz1> wan etc is fine!
[07:18] <al_nz1> and only on wlan interfaces - eth0 works
[07:19] <bubbasaures> al_nz1, We follow posts that are all in one, if you can
[07:23] <ki7mt> code__, encryption is a complex topic. From an ease of use standpoint, I would use something like OpenPGP
[07:24] <EriC^^> al_nz1: i dont know much about networking but did you try to reset your router?
[07:26] <AirstrikeIvanov> so if i am dual booting Windows and Linux, i won't have to worry about anything IF they are on seperate drives?
[07:26] <al_nz1> EriC^^: other computers can ping across the lan just fine, and eth0 works. its only wireless - so I think this points to the PC as oposed to the router
[07:27] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, Should not be an issue, make sure grub goes to the HD ubuntu is on.
[07:27] <EriC^^> al_nz1: is there a router that links them together?
[07:27] <al_nz1> yes
[07:27] <EriC^^> for eth0 and wlan0 ?
[07:28] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, you gonna go gpt or msdos?
[07:28] <EriC^^> wired and wireless?
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> i have NO clue thats why i was asking
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> lol
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> i mean, its a relatively modern year-old system
[07:28] <al_nz1> no, I tried a wired connection on the ubuntu PC and the problem went away
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> GTX760 2GB/16GB DDR3 1600MHz/i7-4770K
[07:28] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, Are you on the computer?
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> yep
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> using the livedvd now
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> on ubuntu
[07:28] <al_nz1> but I want to get wireless working prooperly
[07:28] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, In what OS?
[07:28] <EriC^^> al_nz1: that means it could be the router, no?
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> Ubuntu
[07:29] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, Cool, pastebin sudo parted -l
[07:29] <AirstrikeIvanov> k one moment
[07:29] <al_nz1> EriC^^: other wireless clients (same router) are fine
[07:29] <EriC^^> al_nz1: oh ok
[07:30] <AirstrikeIvanov> bubbasaures  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9717129/
[07:31] <AirstrikeIvanov> also the Seagate drive says it has few bad sectors and NEEDS to be formatted regardless, the NTFS partition is unusuable (the 250GB drive)
[07:31] <AirstrikeIvanov> and im assuming the loop partition is my liveusb since its on my usb key
[07:32] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, You have all msdos I would stick with it if it were me but depends on what you want.
[07:32] <AirstrikeIvanov> well, the two 300/250 drives are gonna be erased no matter what
[07:32] <AirstrikeIvanov> i just wasnt sure what would be easier/more supported in the future
[07:33] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, I don't think msdos will go out of support any time soon.'
[07:33] <bubbasaures> or gpt
[07:33] <AirstrikeIvanov> yeah should be fine then
[07:33] <AirstrikeIvanov> now just need to figure them out to possibly install two linux OSes on a single drive
[07:34] <AirstrikeIvanov> with a third partition that both can access
[07:35] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, not to hard, I would use manual installs so you can size the partitions there, and make sure grub goes to that HD.
[07:35] <AirstrikeIvanov> bubbasaures yeah ubuntu has come a long way since 5.x and the text installer for sure
[07:35] <ki7mt> That's what I do.
[07:35] <AirstrikeIvanov> confusing the hell out of me lol
[07:36] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, Can be confusing if you have been away.
[07:36] <AirstrikeIvanov> then agian that was the last time i used linux so i am thinking about trying out another distro or two
[07:36] <AirstrikeIvanov> like SteamOS maybe
[07:36] <ki7mt> I use EasyBCD to boot Windows and one Grub2, and then use my Ubuntu image to Grub2 boot-load like 8 other versions.
[07:36] <AirstrikeIvanov> well, i have two hard drives with a total of 550 GB space
[07:36] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, Personally if I thought I might need help I would have at least one wit wide support.
[07:37] <AirstrikeIvanov> yeah which is why i am here first
[07:37] <bubbasaures> good choice
[07:37] <AirstrikeIvanov> i know ubuntu is still the most used
[07:37] <bubbasaures> heh
[07:37] <AirstrikeIvanov> my firstever was actually freeBSD
[07:37] <AirstrikeIvanov> then a week after i found that i found out about ubuntu and never looked back
[07:37] <AirstrikeIvanov> lol
[07:37] <bubbasaures> ubuntu was first here upon retuning back to college
[07:37] <ki7mt> I would not recommend FreeBSD to a first time *Nix user :-)
[07:38] <AirstrikeIvanov> LOL yeah i know that after the fact
[07:39] <ablest1980> is freebsd easy to use like ubuntu?
[07:39] <ki7mt> In any case, I would crve out a 100GB or so for Windows, and partition the rest for *Nix, and usr BCD to boot load. It's easy, it's fast, and doesn't make Windows angry messing with the MBR
[07:40] <ki7mt> ablest1980, No, but it's a very stable distro.
[07:40] <ablest1980> ok
[07:40] <AirstrikeIvanov> well in this case im just gonna not even bother with the 1TB drive
[07:40] <AirstrikeIvanov> that can remain 100% windows cause its packed full of steam games
[07:40] <AirstrikeIvanov> mostly just figuring out what to do with the rest *Nix and/or MacOS wise
[07:41] <bubbasaures> never had the patience for BCD or gentoo, run every other major though
[07:41] <ablest1980> cs works
[07:41] <ki7mt> Whatever is easiest for you to maintain, that's the best choice :-)
[07:41] <AirstrikeIvanov> ive always wanted to try Gentoo, heard its the best for servers
[07:41] <william1978> Hello
[07:41] <ablest1980> i got valve pack steam os linux
[07:41] <AirstrikeIvanov> but i just use ubuntu-server myself
[07:41] <AirstrikeIvanov> is steamos any different now ablest1980 ?
[07:41] <AirstrikeIvanov> compared ot when it first released in beta
[07:41] <ki7mt> Gentoo is 'very fast' but that's OT here.
[07:41] <ablest1980> idk
[07:41] <ablest1980> i dont know
[07:41] <AirstrikeIvanov> if nothings changed im not gonna try it again lol
[07:41] <somsip> !ot (it's going off topic quickly here...)
[07:41] <william1978> I just started running Xubuntu.  I actually like it.
[07:41] <AirstrikeIvanov> but ubuntu is my first one yes
[07:42] <somsip> !ot
[07:42] <ablest1980> im new to ubuntu too
[07:42] <somsip> discussions about other OSes are best done in #ubuntu-offtopic, if we can keep to support issues here please
[07:42] <william1978> Gentoo is too ...um, not sure how to say it.
[07:42] <william1978> Gentoo is too system based.
[07:42] <ablest1980> gentoo isnt new i believe
[07:43] <ablest1980> i think
[07:43] <william1978> No, Gentoo is not new.
[07:43] <somsip> william1978: can the OT discussion please stop now, or be taken elsewhere. Thank you
[07:43] <ablest1980> is debian the best one?
[07:43] <KEEm> hey guys
[07:43] <ablest1980> hey
[07:43] <bubbasaures> guys somsip was right #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:44] <somsip> ablest1980: is also offtopic. Please keep this channel for support questions only
[07:44] <ablest1980> ok
[07:44] <ablest1980> sry
[07:44] <somsip> thanks guys - welcome to discuss, just not here eh :)
[07:44] <KEEm> i was wondering how you get the firewall to allow ips from running programs
[07:44] <somsip> !ufw | KEEm
[07:45] <william1978> Oh, and thanks for singling me out.
[07:45] <AirstrikeIvanov> oh lord THATS an expiriment i will avoid like the plague the second time around
[07:45] <KEEm> thanks somsip
[07:45] <AirstrikeIvanov> i had to make my own dns service once.
[07:45] <somsip> william1978: don't take it personally. I've been real polite.
[07:46] <william1978> What does making a DNS service once have anything to do with our topic?
[07:46] <ki7mt> If it's a Ubuntu Server, that's on topic.
[07:46] <william1978> ...That is an if.
[07:47] <ki7mt> Indeed.
[07:47] <KEEm> so how does UFW work+
[07:47] <KEEm> *?
[07:47] <william1978> No clue, I'm still trying to figure out wine.
[07:47] <somsip> KEEm: have you read the link in the reponse from the bot?
[07:48] <KEEm> yeah :)
[07:48] <KEEm> but thanks
[07:48] <KEEm> somsip i will read them carefully :)
[07:48] <somsip> KEEm: so what do you need to know that it doesn't tell you on the wiki?
[07:48] <ki7mt> KEEm, bascially, it's all rules based, if rule x,y,z, do a,b,c: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall
[07:49] <william1978> Can you please post the link for my sake?
[07:49] <KEEm> but is there a easy way to make it allow only running applications ?
[07:50] <somsip> KEEm: you want to wildcard allow on all apps that are currently running?
[07:50] <ki7mt> KEEm, not to be rude, but easy to one person may not be to another, it's best to just classify it as, how does one do it.
[07:51] <KEEm> somsip yeah
[07:52] <ki7mt> Not sure if this applies to 14.04 still, but: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/easy-to-use-gui-for-ubuntus-default-firewall
[07:52] <somsip> KEEm: netstat -ntlp | grep LISTEN shows you the ports, then use UFW from there or AWK them out if you want a one-liner. But you're on your own on that one, and I'd suggest it's probably not the best approach
[07:57] <loadedanvils> can I do a fresh install of 14.04 from within 14.04?
[07:58] <bubbasaures> loadedanvils, YOu can boot the iso with grub
[07:59] <loadedanvils> the problem is, I have 2 ssds inside my computer, one ubuntu, one windows, and I'm nervous about accidentally overwriting the windows one
[07:59] <bubbasaures> loadedanvils, you would do a manual install, this a UEFI bios?
[07:59] <loadedanvils> yeah, I think so
[07:59] <loadedanvils> I had to set UEFI before
[08:00] <bubbasaures> loadedanvils, Best insurance is an image/clone of windows on a external.
[08:00] <loadedanvils> don't have one
[08:00] <loadedanvils> well, actually, I tried to do it before, the clone was unsuccessful, but it did write windows from one drive to the other. the original got screwed up though
[08:01] <loadedanvils> I don't have a spare SSD
[08:01] <bubbasaures> loadedanvils, Windows has an imager built in and multiple uses if pro or above.
[08:02] <loadedanvils> I don't want to try cloning windows again
[08:02] <loadedanvils> I'd rather just install over the original ubuntu installation and not touch that drive
[08:03] <bubbasaures> loadedanvils, Nice thing with W8 it is a bit easier to do a reset or refresh, it just really a mater of backups really. Does not seem this is part of the plan however, just be careful, ask questions here if needed.
[08:03] <loadedanvils> I have windows 7
[08:04] <loadedanvils> the thing that bothers me is the step by step install, I'm not sure if I'll get the option of choosing which drive to install to or if it will just do it automatically
[08:05] <bubbasaures> loadedanvils, you do it's something else in the gui to choose the install]
[08:05] <bubbasaures> a manual install
[08:05] <loadedanvils> I'll see what I can do
[08:09] <ki7mt> It's in the partitioner section, when it asks you, Use Entire Disk, or Something Else, select Something Else.
[08:13] <Guest74534> hello where can i find help on pc desktop repair and tech support
[08:14] <bubbasaures> Guest74534, #hardware and a channel of the os.
[08:15] <bubbasaures> !alis | Guest74534 might help
[08:16] <Guest74534> #bubbasaures thanks
[08:16] <bubbasaures> no prob, hope that get's you going
[08:18]  * swordsmanz thinks there is a big problem with the way ubuntu compiles kernals 
[08:19] <bubbasaures> here we go again
[08:22] <theptr> hi, does anyone has a good manual for setting up a active directory with samba4 in ubuntu 14.04.1 server
[08:22] <william1978> Oooh, that is tasty ad nice. :O
[08:22]  * swordsmanz points out the kernals in the reopo's are clearly compiled diferently to kernals that are packaged with releases 
[08:24] <bubbasaures> swordsmanz, not a direct support issue, how about #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:24] <swordsmanz> bubbasaures actuyally it is
[08:25] <bubbasaures> swordsmanz, heh if you say so.
[08:25] <swordsmanz> becouse not i need to know the difference in how the they are built
[08:25] <bubbasaures> I'm not gonna get into a childish arguement
[08:25] <bubbasaures> argument*
[08:25] <OerHeks> swordsmanz, not true, kernels in repo's and install iso are the same, how do you tell they are different?
[08:25] <swordsmanz> so i can build one that will actually run properly on this (fairly standard) hardware
[08:27] <ki7mt> swordsmanz, YOu can always join the kernel team and work with them to improve on what you think needs work.
[08:27] <swordsmanz> OerHeks well realease kernals are clearly compiled to bypass IBS (power managment amd cpus) where as the updated kernals in repos are not
[08:28] <swordsmanz> ki7mt where are they
[08:28] <swordsmanz> tell me where to find them
[08:28] <bubbasaures> must be nice to have the world revolve around you
[08:29] <Guest74534> is threre a reson why the msg says cannot post to channel
[08:30] <ki7mt> swordsmanz, #ubuntu-kernel I believe, or #ubuntu-devel
[08:30] <william1978> I pee
[08:30] <fidel_> Guest74534: some freenode channels require an authed account - otherwise you cant write to a channel.
[08:30] <fidel_> *registered account*
[08:31] <william1978> Don't wory, I pee'd well.  :P
[08:31] <Guest74534> #fidel how do i authed account
[08:32] <k1l_> !register | Guest74534
[08:32] <swordsmanz> bubbasaures i fell you are being a bit rude
[08:38] <theadmin> !ops | william1978
[08:38] <MMukherjee> Hello.
[08:39] <MMukherjee> I can't SSH into my server on port 22
[08:39] <theadmin> Is OpenSSH installed and running?
[08:39] <MMukherjee> Yes it is.
[08:39] <theadmin> On the machine, can you "ssh $USER@localhost" ?
[08:40] <MMukherjee> Yes I can.
[08:40] <MMukherjee> It's on my LAN
[08:40] <MMukherjee> Its IP is 192.168.0.2
[08:40] <MMukherjee> Mine is 192.168.0.3
[08:40] <MMukherjee> It's virtualized
[08:40] <theadmin> Virtualised how?
[08:40] <sarid> can you ping it?
[08:40] <MMukherjee> It's done using VMware Workstation
[08:40] <MMukherjee> I can, yeah.
[08:41] <MMukherjee> It
[08:41] <MMukherjee> It's bridged
[08:41] <sarid> what's the output of netstat -anp at the console?
[08:41] <theadmin> Oof, no, I'm not touching that, I'm not familiar with VMWare.
[08:41] <MMukherjee> Let me tell
[08:42] <cfhowlett> vmware | MMukherjee
[08:42] <cfhowlett> !vmware | MMukherjee
[08:42] <MMukherjee> ??
[08:42] <MMukherjee> Well, I'm not asking about how to install VMware Workstation you idiot
[08:43] <MMukherjee> I'm saying SSH doesn't work in a VM running Ubuntu
[08:43] <cfhowlett> MMukherjee,  insults will get you ... added to /ignore.
[08:43] <ki7mt> MMukherjee, define doesn't work?
[08:44] <rww> cfhowlett: Regardless of the tone, if you don't know the answer to something, not saying anything is better than blindly issuing factoids.
[08:44] <cfhowlett> rww, manuals and support are available in the url.  it'
[08:44] <cfhowlett>  wasn't a blind factoid
[08:44] <theptr> MMukherjee, what are you trying to do because i dont understand
[08:45] <MMukherjee> Well, let me show.
[08:45] <rww> cfhowlett: Installing VMWare is completely unrelated to the user's question.
[08:45] <cfhowlett> rww, OK
[08:45] <MMukherjee> I have a VM running Ubuntu
[08:45] <MMukherjee> On VMware Workstation
[08:45] <MMukherjee> I try to SSH to it from the host machine
[08:45] <ki7mt> Ubuntu server or DE
[08:45] <MMukherjee> It fails.
[08:45] <MMukherjee> Ubuntu Minimal with SSH installed
[08:45] <theptr> MMukherjee, so your host is a windows i think
[08:45] <rww> cfhowlett: and in case it's not obvious: this is something I would like you to consider in general in the future, not just say "OK" to now and then go back to doing it
[08:46] <sarid> MMukherjee, "netstat -anp" output, please
[08:46] <MMukherjee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9717349/
[08:46] <MMukherjee> Here it is
[08:46] <theptr> MMukherjee, do you have internet connection on your ubuntu
[08:46] <MMukherjee> Just leave the *shell
[08:46] <MMukherjee> I
[08:46] <MMukherjee> I have.
[08:46] <MMukherjee> Using Bridged
[08:46] <MMukherjee> Bridged NET to router
[08:46] <theptr> MMukherjee, okay thats good
[08:46] <theptr> MMukherjee,  im gonna try to replicate your setup
[08:46] <MMukherjee> Just leave the 18*shell please
[08:46] <ki7mt> Using bridged should allow access if you installer openssh-server
[08:46] <MMukherjee> I installed it
[08:47] <theptr> MMukherjee,  do you have changed the sshd config ?
[08:47] <sarid> ssh is definitely listening
[08:47] <swordsmanz> *nods*
[08:47] <MMukherjee> I changed it..
[08:47] <MMukherjee> To allow connections to root
[08:47] <cfhowlett> rww, pretty sure I don't have a reputation for blind/shotgun factoid triggers but ... OK
[08:47] <sarid> MMukherjee, are you trying to ssh as root?
[08:47] <MMukherjee> No,
[08:47] <theptr> MMukherjee, to enable connections to root you have to activate root account
[08:47] <MMukherjee> As a normal user.
[08:48] <rww> cfhowlett: Yes, you do.
[08:48] <yenic> is there an instantbird ppa? I can't get it to run as it is from their website.
[08:48] <MMukherjee> I cannot connect because it says "Connection Refused"
[08:48] <yenic> I get this error, I think it's pointing to the wrong location in ubuntu 14.04 for that library- ./instantbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:48] <theptr> MMukherjee, do you use putty ?
[08:48] <swordsmanz> MMukherjee do you have a firewall running between clint and host ?
[08:48] <ki7mt> MMukherjee, ok, first thing is to get more data from the failed attempt, ssh -v .. .. .. and what's that telling you
[08:48] <yenic> I checked and that dependency is installed
[08:48] <MMukherjee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9717353/
[08:48] <MMukherjee> No.
[08:49] <MMukherjee> There's no Firewall
[08:49] <sarid> output of iptables-save?
[08:49] <MMukherjee> OK
[08:49] <sarid> and you can ping it from the host you're sshing from?
[08:49] <swordsmanz> ^
[08:49] <MMukherjee> I can
[08:50] <theptr> MMukherjee, i gonna tell you how i do it i install open-sshserver and i set my vmware workstation on bridge normally i can ping the host . if that work i open putty and i give it the ip of my ubuntu client
[08:50] <MMukherjee> Sorry, it gives abosolutely none
[08:50] <theptr> MMukherjee, standard its listens to port 22
[08:50] <MMukherjee> I
[08:51] <MMukherjee> I'm trying to connect on 22 -.-
[08:51] <sarid> theptr, it is listening
[08:51] <theptr> MMukherjee, if you have don al that and it doenst work i think it could be a firewall
[08:51] <MMukherjee> well, uh
[08:52] <MMukherjee> I'm sure there's abosolutely no firewall
[08:52] <theptr> MMukherjee, i expirenced that problems when i had zonealarm on the host
[08:52] <theptr> MMukherjee, let me think what it also could be
[08:52] <sarid> lots of services
[08:53] <theptr> MMukherjee, has it ever worked
[08:53] <sarid> theptr, there's this: /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.sock
[08:54] <theptr> sarid, has he fail2ban on the system ?
[08:54] <sarid> it appears so
[08:54] <sarid> line 86 of netstat output
[08:54] <theptr> MMukherjee, can you tell what you configured in fail2ban ?
[08:54] <MMukherjee> It has
[08:55] <theptr> sarid, now i see
[08:55] <MMukherjee> I just sudo apt-get remove --purge'd fail2ban
[08:55] <MMukherjee> Aaaaaand: it now works
[08:55] <MMukherjee> horrible.
[08:55] <theptr> MMukherjee, maybe also auto-remove
[08:55] <MMukherjee> I just wasted my time
[08:55] <MMukherjee> -.-
[08:55] <sarid> lol
[08:55] <theptr> MMukherjee, you have to configure fail2ban so that it allows connections from your host :)
[08:55] <sarid> MMukherjee, if you learn nothing in your journeys, they are quite wasted. think of this as having been productive
[08:56] <MMukherjee> hm
[08:56] <MMukherjee> I'm sorry for bothering you guys :(
[08:56] <theptr> MMukherjee, no problem
[08:56] <sarid> not at all. we're on IRC. it means we have free time
[08:56] <sarid> :)
[08:56] <diamat> ^
[08:57] <diamat> hey how do you guys have your terminals configured?
[08:57] <diamat> i have byobu-tmux open with a few windows, weechat in one pane and zsh in other
[08:57] <diamat> sometimes i keep rainbowstream open for twitter stuff
[08:58] <somsip> diamat: this is a support forum. If you just want to chat, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:00] <diamat> ah
[09:00] <ame> hi can anyone tell me from where i can take all commands and advanced commands used for ubuntu??
[09:00] <theadmin> ame: That would be impossible since Linux "commands" are basically programs, and you can install as many of those as you like.
[09:01] <cfhowlett> ame, "the linux command line" is a free download
[09:01] <theadmin> ame: But for built-in stuff, read "man intro" first
[09:02] <ame> ya i read the man intro.But i want all  the basic and advanced commands used for ubuntu...For eg:ls,ll with full function of that command
[09:02] <somsip> ame: man ls
[09:02] <ame> somsip:thats ok but the need is to know all types of basic commands
[09:03] <ki7mt> ame, that's impossible to list, as its varies depending on the applications installed
[09:03] <cfhowlett> ame, no such resource
[09:03] <ame> okay
[09:03] <somsip> ame: then type 'man' with the name of the other application you want to read about
[09:03] <ame> And one more doubt how to set permission for user to access application??
[09:03] <somsip> !permissions | ame
[09:03] <iptable> man woman > No manual entry for woman
[09:04] <ki7mt> ame, if you want to lean about all the bash commands, type man bash . that will be a good start
[09:04] <iptable> ame, best, if you actually have a real-life-scenario question as something doesn't work, and can't solve it, ask us and we can guide you
[09:04] <somsip> ame: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_all_alphabetic.html
[09:05] <EriC^^> ame: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary.pdf
[09:05] <iptable> 99.9% of the time on ubuntu you will not need to set permissions for user to access an application
[09:06] <ame> iptable:i have install an application for example firefox.users namely A and B.I want to allow user A to access firefox and for B restrivted access
[09:06] <ame> How to do that??
[09:07] <iptable> ame: you want user B to not have access to the internet browsers or just to firefox?
[09:07] <mt__> hi
[09:07] <iptable> users can access the internet using command line browsers, wget, curl and others
[09:07] <ame> just firefox
[09:07] <ame> iptable:the user should not open the application too
[09:08] <iptable> ame: restricting run rights on shared binaries might not be the wisest thing to do, but if you want to go that route, you would find the binary (/usr/local/bin/firefox) and use ACLs (access lists) to remove x (executable) flag for user B.
[09:08] <iptable> ame: a better approach in linux would be to use specific security tools designed for that purpose. You can use apparmor and selinux to restrict access to services and/or applicaitons based on user
[09:09] <diamat> hey ame, did you want something like this?: > ls -1 /bin/ | while read -r line; do whatis "$line"; done
[09:09] <iptable> ame: alternatively, change permission of firefox (if only 2 users involved) to only gives execute rights to user A. Then no other user can execute it. warning - change of ownership for file required which is not wise for firefox
[09:10] <ki7mt> ame, though the use groups, and which groups and file permissions for binaries you don't want users to run. If you want to restrict functions / features within the application, that is an application specific profile restriction.
[09:10] <iptable> diamat: /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin etc
[09:10] <ame> am confused guys
[09:11] <iptable> ame: you should not restrict application access using file permissions... not for shared apps. for that use apparmor and/or selinux, which are tools designed for that purpose
[09:12] <ame> iptable:okay i will try to work on that
[09:12] <ki7mt> actually the standard is called MAC or Mandatory Access Control, and that's exactly what it's designed to do.
[09:12] <iptable> ki7mt: yes, apparmor
[09:13] <NikolaiToryzin> I'm having a super odd issue with a daemon
[09:13] <iptable> install angels ;) Sorry, had to. Ask away
[09:13] <NikolaiToryzin> So I wrote it, confirmed it works with service, set its runlevels, and rebooted the VM
[09:13] <ki7mt> That is implemented though, Linux Security Module, as you stated apparmor SELinux, etc.
[09:13] <ame> iptable:what is difference between basic commands and advanced commands in linux??Am confused because am new to ubuntu
[09:14] <NikolaiToryzin> doesn't start and /var/log/boot.log is totally empty while runlevel confirms it's at N2
[09:14] <cfhowlett> ame, download and read: "The Linux Command Line"
[09:14] <iptable> ame: uhm, define basic and advanced command ...? They are all basic to me?
[09:14] <NikolaiToryzin> This is 14.04 on a lxc VM, by the way.
[09:15] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: you mean a service as in a file in /etc/init or /etc/init.d or something else?
[09:15] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, It's a totally generic sysvinit daemon in /etc/init.d/ that can be launched with service start
[09:16] <NikolaiToryzin> So upstart really shouldn't have a problem with it
[09:16] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: how did you enable it to start on boot? also, does it execute if you run it manually and fails just on boot?
[09:17] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, Executes totally normally if I do it manually, and update-rc.d daemon defaults
[09:17] <NikolaiToryzin> As mentioned before I checked to make sure it made its proper symlinks
[09:18] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: so, you got it in /etc/rc*.d, it runs manually, doesn't run on boot and it's an LXC container
[09:18] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, /etc/init.d/ but everything else is correct
[09:18] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: does upstart have sysvinit script enabled? sysvinint nowadays is just a script in upstart. check in /etc/init
[09:19] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: I would be tempted to ask if you could make it please into an upstart job instead and check then. Out of couriosity...
[09:20] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, upstart has a sysvinit script?
[09:20] <NikolaiToryzin> I knew it was a link
[09:21] <iptable> I think it's called rc-sysinint.conf or something
[09:21] <NikolaiToryzin>  /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf does exist
[09:22] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: question is, does it execute in LXC?
[09:22] <iptable> all jobs should be upstart anyways as sysvinit is more or less dead
[09:23] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, upstart knows it exists
[09:23] <iptable> also, do you have /etc/init.d/rcS script?
[09:23] <NikolaiToryzin> I do have that
[09:24] <iptable> Ok, are there any jobs in /etc/init.d that start on boot that are NOT in /etc/init that actually work?
[09:24] <NikolaiToryzin> I know sysvinit is pretty dead, but I share cluster deploy scripts between a bunch of BSD boxes too
[09:24] <iptable> ugh
[09:25] <ikonia> thats a bad idea
[09:25] <ikonia> the scripts should be platform/technology specific
[09:25] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, I don't have any.
[09:25] <iptable> See my last question. Also, does the script have execute permission on it like 775?
[09:25] <NikolaiToryzin> ikonia, It's totally home grown stuff, I /know/ what I'm doing with that :)
[09:25] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, It does
[09:25] <iptable> root can run scripts which don't have 775, while sysvinit cannot
[09:26] <iptable> I would be tempted to think that init.d is disabled in LXC containers. possibly
[09:26] <iptable> the /bin/init it heavily modified in any case for the containers to work
[09:26] <NikolaiToryzin> I'm slightly afraid of that, or it isn't running somehow
[09:27] <iptable> well, if it runs manually and start, stop, restart work, and the syntax is correct (the commented definitions, etc), then LXC containers have sysvinit disabled
[09:27] <leeyaa> hello
[09:27] <iptable> you will have to convert it to upstart
[09:27] <leeyaa> how to rename network interface from em0/1 etc to eth0/1
[09:28] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, so gross :)
[09:28] <MagePsycho> one quesiton when i do which mysql it shows the 4 repeated values
[09:28] <MagePsycho> why is that
[09:28] <NikolaiToryzin> MagePsycho, Pastebin it pls
[09:28] <iptable> apparently lxc_init does not have correct boot management for sysvinint to kick in (as sysvinit requires CHANGES to sysV to happen and you are constantly running in same runlevel on the main kernel)
[09:28] <iptable> Not gorss, per design. you shouldn't be using sysvinint anyways ;)
[09:29] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: ^
[09:29] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, Well, then Ubuntu went and figured systemd
[09:29] <ikonia> ubuntu is not using systemd
[09:29] <NikolaiToryzin> Wait, that was Debian
[09:29] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: a workaround would be to create your own upstart job which runs your sysvinint script. it would be dead simple to do.
[09:29] <ikonia> the current LTS versions use upstart, that should be your target
[09:29] <ki7mt> Yeah, lets not start that debate here also.
[09:29] <NikolaiToryzin> Wait, http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
[09:30] <NikolaiToryzin> ikonia, I do, but I worry about many years later
[09:30] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: many years later you should worry about many years later. important lesson!
[09:31] <iptable> leeyaa: let me google that for you: http://blogs.bu.edu/mhirsch/2012/12/ubuntu-12-10-renaming-ethernet-interfaces-from-p1p1-to-eth0/
[09:32] <cfhowlett> iptable, read your words in Yoda's voice, I did ...
[09:32] <iptable> haha, cfhowlett, that's bad. it made me laugh like crazy in the office :D
[09:32] <MagePsycho> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9717484/
[09:33] <MagePsycho> NikolaiToryzin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9717484/
[09:33] <NikolaiToryzin> You installed PHP outside of apt :)
[09:33] <NikolaiToryzin> I'd assume you compiled it
[09:33] <NikolaiToryzin> If you don't set the prefix most configures default to /usr/local
[09:34] <iptable> MagePsycho: so, not mysql, but php. you installed it without using the repos and using repos. you got multiple copies of php installed
[09:34] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, Does upstart do any weird respawning or pid watching things I need to worry about?
[09:34] <NikolaiToryzin> The conf I just made looks file
[09:34] <NikolaiToryzin> fine*
[09:34] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: yes, you configure it to either respawn or not. If you want it to respawn, you write : respwan
[09:35] <iptable> uhm, respawn :D
[09:35] <MagePsycho> similar for mysql
[09:35] <MagePsycho> yeah i used package manager called homebrew on mac
[09:35] <iptable> MagePsycho: wait, so that' a mac, not ubuntu?
[09:35] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, Cool, not writing that. We've got our own home grown ways of ensuring this daemon updates itself and restarts without downtime
[09:35] <MagePsycho> yeah but the concept is the same
[09:35] <NikolaiToryzin> MagePsycho, lmao
[09:35] <iptable> MagePsycho: homebrew and OSX do their own installs. Now, it is NOT the same.
[09:35] <NikolaiToryzin> MagePsycho, brew unlink
[09:36] <iptable> unbrew :D
[09:36] <NikolaiToryzin> php^
[09:36] <neionz> fuck, I just shat myself
[09:36] <MagePsycho> i run ubuntu on virtualbox
[09:36] <cfhowlett> iptable, read your words in Yoda's voice, I did ...
[09:36] <neionz> no you don't, MagePsycho
[09:36] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: alternatively, when your startup script on host runs lxc-start, it could ssh 1.2.3.4 "service X start" afterwards ;)
[09:36] <cfhowlett> neionz, language and completely offtopic here.  stop.
[09:36] <jpds> neionz: Hi.
[09:37] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, That's awfully gross.
[09:37] <neionz> hi jpds, how's u doin bro?
[09:37] <neionz> cfhowlett: not is, ok me understand, me no u anymore yes. I will.
[09:37] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: not really. I do that for a few extrmelyt heavy boot VMs to control how fast these boot.
[09:38] <patsourakos> hello
[09:38] <iptable> MagePsycho: your ubuntu on virtualbox has nothing to do with the fact you are asking an OSX issue on the ubuntu channel...
[09:38] <patsourakos> when i log in i get 121 packeges can be updated
[09:38] <patsourakos> but apt-get upgrade shows 0
[09:39] <iptable> patsourakos: apt-get update
[09:39] <iptable> patsourakos: then check
[09:39] <MagePsycho> I am trying to dump the file using http://www.blog.magepsycho.com/backup-magento-project-files-db-using-bash-script/
[09:39] <cfhowlett> patsourakos, apt-get dist-upgrade will get them.  here's the TEST: apt-get -s dist-upgrade
[09:39] <MagePsycho> now the problem is i xmllnt is not in one of client server and has no root access
[09:39] <patsourakos> yes dist
[09:39] <MagePsycho> iptable: it’s for the production server btw
[09:40] <patsourakos>  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:40] <iptable> patsourakos: 1. apt-get update!!!!!
[09:40] <patsourakos> yes did this
[09:40] <Marc2> hey, i updated my ubuntu 14.10 and since then unity doesnt start correctly, it only shows the login background; x-0-greeter.log shows a warning: Unable to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: "RegisterClient"
[09:40] <iptable> patsourakos: if you upgraded recenrly then the upgrade check script has not updated. wait 24 hours and reboot while at it
[09:40] <patsourakos> yes i did update recently
[09:40] <iptable> oh
[09:41] <patsourakos> any solution other to  rebooting ?
[09:41] <iptable> patsourakos: this script runs max once every 24h ours to avoid loads.
[09:41] <iptable> patsourakos: let me check. there was a way to manually force it
[09:41] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, How do I even get it to realise I put a conf in /etc/init?
[09:41] <NikolaiToryzin> service daemon restart does nothing
[09:41] <Marc2> g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error_quark , 0)
[09:41] <patsourakos> hm anyways it seems now ok .. says system restart required
[09:41] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: you don't. you just put it there, and that's that
[09:42] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, But ... how do I start it?
[09:42] <NikolaiToryzin> upstart is so odd
[09:43] <jpds> NikolaiToryzin: 'tis actually quite nice.
[09:43] <iptable> you just type in service servicename start
[09:44] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, holy hell that just worked.
[09:44] <NikolaiToryzin> not the service part, but the booting magically all on its own
[09:44] <iptable> cool
[09:44] <iptable> patsourakos: so it updated
[09:44] <iptable> patsourakos: you need to reboot
[09:44] <NikolaiToryzin> This is freaking magic
[09:48] <leeyaa> iptable: i tried googling first, i dont have 70-persistent-net.rules
[09:48] <leeyaa> udev rules directory is empty
[09:49] <PhilippeGeek> Hello, is MaaS usable for a lot (10) of VM on the same machine ?
[09:50] <simonon> Hi guys! I'm having a strange hard drive issue on my server/htpc, would greatly appreciate any help
[09:51] <simonon> once in a while, about every one or two days it occurs and the file system is remounted read only
[09:51] <simonon> got the following in syslog: http://pastebin.com/AKYz69jV
[09:52] <iptable> PhilippeGeek: MAAS is barebones machine administration and deeployment device. it is usable for 2+ machines
[09:52] <simonon> Tried google but didn't find anything good. Some are suggesting to replace the hard drive or just reinstall.
[09:53] <iptable> simonon: run smart test
[09:53] <PhilippeGeek> iptable: Ok, but is ther no MAAS like system for VMs
[09:53] <simonon> Tried running smartctl on the disk with no errors found
[09:53] <iptable> simonon: could be your controller is dying instead
[09:53] <iptable> simonon: or HDD is dying and smart didn't pick it up
[09:54] <iptable> simonon: anyways, it's end of life is approaching
[09:54] <iptable> PhilippeGeek: nothing is stopping you from administering your VMs using MAAS or Juju.
[09:54] <simonon> right, so I guess it's best to replace before it dies completely and causes further problems
[09:54] <iptable> PhilippeGeek: and MAAS supports multiple power methods, so yes, you can use it with VMs if you wish to do so
[09:55] <iptable> simonon: most likely. reinstall while replacing to get a gfresh OS.
[09:55] <PhilippeGeek> iptable:  What is the diff between MAAS and Juju ?
[09:56] <simonon> iptable: yup, I'll do so. thanks for helping out
[09:56] <iptable> PhilippeGeek: MAAS = deploy machines from images as per deployment configuration, provision machines and get them ready. Juju = deploy services (not machines). Like 'deploy wordpress on this machine and connect it auto-magically to apache there and a database over there please'
[09:57] <iptable> juju works with MAAS as well to auto-deploy machines with services you wish
[09:57] <iptable> and if you slap openstack on top, it's even cooler. you can deploy machines with MAAS, deploy openstack with juju, deploy services on openstack with juju installed on openstack and administer VMs with MAAS too
[09:57] <iptable> have fun :D
[10:03] <onla> hey I added a script to .xinitrc to run it on startup but it is not being run. How do I run things on startup with ubuntu?
[10:07] <onla> okay. I added it to the graphical startup app list
[10:09] <iptable> onla: run graphical things or just command line scripts?
[10:09] <onla> cmd line script
[10:09] <iptable> onla: command line scripts = /etc/init/ or /etc/init.d/ (with update-rc.d) or /etc/rc.local or /etc/crontab with @reboot as time specification
[10:10] <iptable> pick one
[10:10] <onla> ok ty
[10:27] <HoloIRCUser1> Hello✋
[10:37] <kanavero> Hello world ;-)
[10:41] <HoloIRCUser1> Hello
[10:41] <mn3monic> Hello, is there any chance to have LibreOffice working properly with fglrx? :\
[10:42] <HoloIRCUser1> Ye bhau
[10:44] <quackgyver> Hey. Would it be possible (and easy) to install a web server on Ubuntu Desktop just so I can easily experiment with web development and databases?
[10:44] <quackgyver> Is the process the same as installing Apache to a remote server
[10:44] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, very easy
[10:44] <quackgyver> and I just interact with localhost?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> HoloIRCUser1, ask your ubuntu questions
[10:44] <quackgyver> Or is there something more to it
[10:44] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, same process.
[10:44] <quackgyver> Awesome. Thanks a lot.
[10:45] <HoloIRCUser1> Nvidia drivers works good with addition drivers or bumblebee
[10:46] <iptable> nvidia drivers work best nowadays with nvidia-prime, not bumblebee
[10:46] <iptable> although for a few-year-old cards, bumblebee is the only one that will work
[10:46] <HoloIRCUser1> Ohk
[10:47] <HoloIRCUser1> Thanks
[10:56] <Fudster> Crap. I locked myself out of my normal system. I have it in recuse mode now. I think its UFW. Where is the config for it?
[10:59] <phre4k> how do I change the default wallpaper for all Users in Xubuntu?
[11:00] <iptable> phre4k: including those who already logged in at some point, or default for new users (i.e. profile template)?
[11:06] <phre4k> iptable: both. We have a corporate background :)
[11:06] <iptable> ah
[11:06] <iptable> stuffing adverts in your own employees' faces
[11:07] <phre4k> no, it just looks cool and I don't want naked ladies as backgrounds
[11:07] <iptable> sutff that in: xfconf-query --channel xfce4-desktop --property /backdrop/screen0/monitor0/image-path --set /usr/share/backgrounds/xfce/xfce-blue.jpg
[11:08] <iptable> make a policy then that all ladies in the background need to be appropriately dressed :D
[11:08] <phre4k> iptable: looool :D that would be sexist.
[11:09] <phre4k> I think the women of the office would have a good laugh though.
[11:09] <iptable> ok, put in that men need to walk around appropriately dressed as well to even out
[11:09] <iptable> see this thou: http://askubuntu.com/questions/414422/command-to-change-the-wallpaper-in-xubuntu
[11:09] <phre4k> and the default WP? Do I do that in /etc/profile whatever?
[11:10] <iptable> well, you can force the change using that whenever anyone is logged in and at all times, so that they can't bugger it up ;)
[11:10] <iptable> not sure about default wallapper location :/
[11:10] <phre4k> iptable: ty for the link, found out I have to xfconf-query -c xfce4-desktop -p /backdrop -lv first
[11:10] <iptable> nice
[11:11] <phre4k> I'll do a lil' research for the default WP
[11:11] <phre4k> ty so far
[11:11] <iptable> for defaults: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7794
[11:11] <iptable> phre4k: ^
[11:11] <iptable> or otherwise /etc/skel
[11:11] <phre4k> kk ty
[11:25] <account-root> 你好
[11:26] <cfhowlett> !cn | account-root
[11:27] <account-root> cfhowlett :-)
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !kylin | account-root
[11:27] <account-root> cfhowlett ok
[11:27] <account-root> cfhowlett #kylin ???
[11:28] <cfhowlett> account-root, Chinese ubuntu flavor
[11:28] <account-root> join #ubuntukylin
[11:29] <cfhowlett> account-root, http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntu-kylin-zh-CN
[11:30] <Raydiation> hi, im looking for the package python3-pip on ubuntu 12.04
[11:30] <Raydiation> it does not seem to be available though
[11:31] <EriC^^> !find python3
[11:31] <daftykins> EriC^^: psst, ... precise
[11:31] <daftykins> :)
[11:31] <EriC^^> daftykins: :)
[11:31] <EriC^^> !info python3-pip precise
[11:32] <Raydiation> exactly :)
[11:32] <Raydiation> so where is pip then
[11:32] <Raydiation> !info python-pip precise
[11:32] <daftykins> wellity wellity.
[11:32] <Raydiation> because the python2 version is available
[11:33] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/412178/how-to-install-pip-for-python-3-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts
[11:33] <daftykins> top google result.
[11:33]  * daftykins tuts at Raydiation 
[11:34] <Raydiation> that was my previous solution :)
[11:34] <Raydiation> i thought i could take a shortcut and just use the package manager
[11:36] <Raydiation> kinda unfortunate that travis ci is still stuck on 12.04
[11:38] <Python2> you can roll your own packages
[11:40] <daftykins> or write a script!
[11:45] <ioanel> how do I create a new binding for alt+f2 combination
[11:46] <bazhang> on unity or gnome-shell
[11:46] <refj> Is launchpad still the correct place to report bugs? I reported a bug two months ago concerning net-install (debian-installer) and it is still in "New" status.
[11:47] <ioanel> gnome
[11:47] <daftykins> !bug
[11:47] <daftykins> refj: ^
[11:57] <OerHeks> refj, if no one has got the same issue, it will not be confirmed.
[12:04] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:05] <semicolon> BluesKaj good morning
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hi semicolon
[12:05] <daftykins> BluesKaj: wb \o
[12:05] <BluesKaj> hey daftykins
[12:12] <refj> salvia
[12:16] <Sycrid> hi guys, can anyone tell me if I can use remmina, to connect from one linux machine to another?
[12:17] <daftykins> it supports multiple protocols, so technically yes - but you'd need some additional setup
[12:17] <daftykins> http://remmina.sourceforge.net/
[12:17] <kblin> hi folks
[12:17] <bazhang> its in the repos Sycrid you can install it from there
[12:18] <asxetos_> hello.. i reset my password (root) wth drop shell in mode.. in recoverty
[12:18] <bazhang> !info remmina | Sycrid
[12:18] <bazhang> asxetos_, Your sudo password?
[12:18] <Sycrid> bazhang: Yeah, I have it installed and I'm using it to get from linux to windows, but I am struggling to get a linux to linux connection... is that possible?
[12:18] <kblin> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an HP Precision workstation with a hardware RAID and failing, is there any way I can load the drivers during installation?
[12:19] <asxetos_> yes
[12:19] <asxetos_> but when i try 2 login.. problem..
[12:19] <asxetos_> not say the password is rong.. but screenn refresh and neet ander again password
[12:19] <asxetos_> but again the same.. screnn resfresh
[12:19] <daftykins> asxetos_: did you remount read-write before you ran passwd, in recovery?
[12:19] <asxetos_> yes...
[12:20] <bazhang> remmina-plugin-rdp <--- is that installed Sycrid , there are a couple of other plugins as well
[12:20] <Sycrid> ahh ok
[12:20] <Sycrid> bazhang: thanks
[12:20] <bazhang> apt-cache search remmina Sycrid
[12:20] <bazhang> that will show them
[12:23] <asxetos_> this command i use mount -rw -o remount /...
[12:24] <asxetos_> i try 2 add a another user.. root.. with password.. and the same..  i enter user.. password.. svreen refresh and need enter again password
[12:27] <Laurenceb> hi
[12:28] <Laurenceb> can anyone help me add a repositiory through a proxy?
[12:28] <Laurenceb> i dont know what im doing here, and im failing badly
[12:28] <daftykins> show a pastebin of what you've tried and what's going wrong
[12:28] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:29] <yourbeau> xsltParseStylesheetFile : cannot parse
[12:29] <yourbeau> I/O warning : failed to load external entity ""
[12:29] <yourbeau> error
[12:29] <yourbeau> I am getting this error in terminal when I run Libreoffice
[12:30] <asxetos_> if i enter a incorrect.. password..  say incorrect password try again... but if enter correctpassword.. not say anythink just refresh screen and need it again..
[12:30] <daftykins> asxetos_: TTY or X?
[12:31] <Laurenceb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9718088/
[12:31] <Laurenceb> there
[12:34] <daftykins> Laurenceb: seen - http://askubuntu.com/questions/53146/how-do-i-get-add-apt-repository-to-work-through-a-proxy ?
[12:34] <Laurenceb> yeah
[12:34] <Laurenceb> thats where i got the line from
[12:34] <daftykins> any particular reason you're adding a PPA for software that's already in the repos?
[12:35] <Laurenceb> i need it on 10.04lts
[12:35] <daftykins> !lucid
[12:35] <Laurenceb> yeah yeah
[12:35] <daftykins> sorry, 10.04 is as dead as the dodo on the desktop.
[12:35] <daftykins> notts should be teaching you better
[12:36] <Laurenceb> its a legacy system
[12:36] <Laurenceb> needs to not be fiddled with whilst stuff on it is finished
[12:37] <Laurenceb> sometimes i feel like im swimming in a ocean of incompetence
[12:37] <NoOova> hello all~
[12:37] <honey21> i installed cacti in my ubuntu  and i have already installed lamp as well but i cant connect to mysql it shows me "FATAL: Cannot connect to MySQL server on ''. Please make sure you have specified a valid MySQL database name in 'include/config.php' "but in my include/config.php seting is correct is there any help please
[12:37] <daftykins> Laurenceb: is that a nice little rude comment about here? :)
[12:37] <Laurenceb> no, where i work
[12:38] <daftykins> ah good good.
[12:38] <Laurenceb> my life is spent running around like a headless chicken fixing monumentally stupid shit
[12:38] <NoOova> What 'sysv-rc-conf' exactly do when i disable a service?
[12:38] <daftykins> !language
[12:39] <daftykins> Laurenceb: so what aspect of Libre is it that that system uses? 'cause my instinct would be - "hey, office suite on an old box? surely docs could be removed and edited on another host" - so i figure there's more to it?
[12:39] <Laurenceb> indeed they could
[12:40] <Laurenceb> i was just trying to make my life easier so i could edit docs on this machine thats primarily for running a ton of ancient scripts
[12:40] <michagogo> Hi, what's the best place to ask about a problem with vmbuilder?
[12:40] <Laurenceb> but so much for that plan....
[12:40] <michagogo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ZwBqGkjO
[12:40] <daftykins> Laurenceb: well, you could just insert the true PPA URL into sources.list or create an entry in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ instead of rely on add-apt...
[12:40] <daftykins> or grab .deb's and install manually
[12:40] <Laurenceb> ok
[12:41] <daftykins> make config backups before you edit
[12:41] <Laurenceb> can i use the software sources GUi  ?
[12:42] <daftykins> er, sure
[12:42] <daftykins> https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-4-0?field.series_filter=lucid
[12:42] <daftykins> seems to be a v4 lucid build
[12:44] <Laurenceb> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403  Forbidden
[12:44] <Laurenceb> hmm ill try to find a network admin guy
[12:45] <daftykins> sounds like a plan
[12:48] <syeekick> hey
[12:48] <daftykins> hi
[12:49] <syeekick> Is there a way to view previous ssh login attempts on the client side? I know how to do it on the server, /var/auth/auth.log or w.e it is
[12:50] <daftykins> i don't quite understand, only the host you're connecting *to* is keeping a log of who failed to auth
[12:51] <syeekick> erm
[12:51] <honey21> i installed cacti in my ubuntu  and i have already installed lamp as well but i cant connect to mysql it shows me "FATAL: Cannot connect to MySQL server on ''. Please make sure you have specified a valid MySQL database name in 'include/config.php' "but in my include/config.php seting is correct is there any help please
[12:51] <syeekick> the closest I can get to is searching through the clients bash history. I was just wondering is anything logged client side for ssh logins authenticated or not.
[12:52] <syeekick> daftykins, do you understand my question a little better?
[12:52] <daftykins> are you trying to remember a user or host, or something?
[12:53] <daftykins> and whether they were successful tries
[12:55] <syeekick> yes that exactly :P
[12:55] <ablest1980> hi
[12:55] <syeekick> hey
[12:56] <daftykins> hmm, i don't think so
[12:56] <daftykins> but my knowledge is by no means complete
[13:03] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[13:03] <daftykins> hi
[13:03] <mahdi_ja> i  create my first ubuntu phone application with ubuntu-sdk.but when i run it i get this error
[13:04] <mahdi_ja> warning: desktop_Exec (app): found unexpected Exec with architecture 'all': ./qtc_device_debughelper.py
[13:04] <popey> mahdi_ja: you're better asking in #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:04] <huppfi> so i'm trying to install something and it just says ldconfig: /usr/local/lib is not a known library type anybode had that happen to him?
[13:05] <mahdi_ja> popey, thank you
[13:06] <popey> mahdi_ja: np
[13:06] <daftykins> huppfi: what version are you on and what is the command you're running?
[13:06] <huppfi> 14.4 i think and i'm trying to install a .deb file which should install sdl2
[13:07] <daftykins> manual deb install, hmm that's not the best of ideas
[13:07] <daftykins> sure it's a trusty package? confirm version with either "cat /etc/issue" or "lsb_release -d"
[13:08] <jase_> random i know just sorted some ShelSHOCK and updated kernel
[13:13] <Bombo> hey wasn't there a ppa or something for newer kernels? i just see linux-image-3.13.0-43-generic
[13:15] <daftykins> kernel backports
[13:16] <syeekick> popey lawl
[13:17] <popey> syeekick: wat?
[13:18] <syeekick> its syee from JB.. just giving you shiz
[13:18] <Bombo> hmmm this is probably what i want? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.18.2-vivid/
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | Bombo
[13:18] <honey21> i installed cacti in my ubuntu  and i have already installed lamp as well but i cant connect to mysql it shows me "FATAL: Cannot connect to MySQL server on ''. Please make sure you have specified a valid MySQL database name in 'include/config.php' "but in my include/config.php seting is correct is there any help please
[13:18] <daftykins> ah mainline, that's the trigger.
[13:18] <syeekick> you at work popey?
[13:19] <Bombo> !mainline
[13:19] <honey21> i installed cacti in my ubuntu  and i have already installed lamp as well but i cant connect to mysql it shows me "FATAL: Cannot connect to MySQL server on ''. Please make sure you have specified a valid MySQL database name in 'include/config.php' "but in my include/config.php seting is correct is there any help please
[13:19] <daftykins> !repeat | honey21
[13:20] <Bombo> ok DL'ing, i hope the wlan stick works with that kernel
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: the guest from this morning had flickering gone after edit grub to nomodeset
[13:21] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: \o/ get anywhere with the intel wifi after a dist-upgrade ?
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: i had to go after the screen fix, dont know either
[13:22] <daftykins> ah righty-o
[13:22] <daftykins> looked really messy, several variant ID codes and one is missing from the driver, so you have to manually add it
[13:23] <daftykins> though it looked like it was in 14.10 but i decided not to tell the guest to download that instead :>
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well if wifi doesnt show right away on live, its mostly bad news :p
[13:23] <daftykins> too true
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: well 14.10 has newer drivers, but still alot of users with screen issues also
[13:24] <daftykins> from what i found it wasn't even particularly that new a haswell CPU in the thing guest had
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yeah he has haswell intel hd 4400 grafix also
[13:29] <jrg> hm. i wonder if the samsung chromebook is an arm
[13:30]  * jrg goes to check
[13:30] <jrg> oh but ubuntu on a chromebook is just a chroot isn't it?
[13:30] <daftykins> there are multiple models afaik, and chrubuntu is a nasty chroot hack, yes
[13:31] <jrg> is that the only way to do it?
[13:31] <Calve> hi all ! I just compiled python 2.7.9 to have the latest security patches. Should I recompile pip and virtualenv too or can I stay with those from apt ?
[13:32] <daftykins> jrg: don't think so, but i call it bad advice to buy a device that needs to be 'hacked' to get ubuntu on
[13:32] <jrg> daftykins: heh. i guess that's true. i have one lying around
[13:32] <jrg> i was wondering if i could do anything with it other than chromeos
[13:33] <jrg> but i'm not really sure what cpu it has. not sure what samsung used. probably an x86
[13:33] <bearface> jrg: http://blogs.fsfe.org/the_unconventional/2014/04/20/c720-debian/
[13:33] <daftykins> jrg: i think you can cat /proc/cpuinfo if you open a tab to crosh
[13:34] <bearface> it's possible on some of the chromebooks without the chroot jail
[13:34] <jrg> bearface: neat
[13:34] <jrg> but you have to flash the rom? :) heh
[13:34] <bearface> yeah
[13:34] <daftykins> typically on all of them yeah
[13:34] <sheer> hi. i think something is wrong with my ubuntu installation. i've had it for a few days only but from day 2 or 3, it says "system program problem detected" every time i switch on
[13:34] <jrg> i love how the eu outlawed how warranty void stickers are worthless haha
[13:35] <jrg> sheer: does it give you any information about what is broken?
[13:35] <jrg> also. have you tried running an update ? maybe whatever is broken will update and fix itself heh
[13:35] <sheer> it asks me if i want to report the problem jrg
[13:35] <jrg> either that or totally break something
[13:35] <bearface> kernel <3.16 needs some tinkering to get the touchpad working though
[13:35] <Bombo> how would i list the available entries for use with grub-set-default?
[13:35] <jrg> sheer: i think it lets you see the report before it sends it
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> jrg: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/795730-how-to-easily-install-ubuntu-on-chromebook-with-crouton
[13:35] <jrg> maybe if you look at it you can get a clue
[13:35] <daftykins> i think i heard once that you get those messages repeatedly if one crash occurred, you delete the logfiles wherever they're kept then it'll silence them... but not if that issue genuinely does happen every boot
[13:36] <jrg> lotuspsychje: i still have to see whch cpu the samsung uses
[13:36] <sheer> does "transtional dummy package"
[13:36] <sheer> sound like a legit update
[13:36] <jrg> i'm going to look at it when i get back home
[13:36] <sheer> how about "the staging edition ..."
[13:36] <sheer> what is this even
[13:36] <jrg> lotuspsychje: yah i saw that already
[13:36] <jrg> i'd rather do the flash the rom method ;)
[13:37] <jrg> i don't care if i break it heh
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:37] <jrg> if it's an arm tho
[13:37] <jrg> if it's an x86 it really isn't worth it
[13:37] <jrg> i just want a faster arm that can run ubuntu and fully function
[13:37] <jrg> and doesn't suck.. i think i'm asking for too much
[13:38] <jrg> i love the tf101 because it has that dock battery that keeps it alive forever but ubuntu on it was awful
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> jrg: there are youtubes on it also
[13:39] <jrg> lotuspsychje: yah i saw the chroot method
[13:39] <jrg> i didn't see the flashing way to do it
[13:39] <jrg> that would be neat if it isn't tooo complicated
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> jrg: one with xubuntu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpDtD4eKBB4
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> looking rather neat after
[13:41] <jrg> Once you’ve done that, you’ll have to remove the ROM chip’s write-protect screw, which is number 7 in this picture
[13:41] <jrg> LOL
[13:41] <jrg> that's it?1
[13:41] <jrg> wow .. that's kind of funny.. i was expecting him to say you have to solder pins onto points x y and z
[13:41] <jrg> all you have to do is remove a screw
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> jrg: ok lets stick to ubuntu support mate
[13:44] <notsimar> morning
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> notsimar: welcome
[13:50] <Bombo> ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.18.2-031802-generic is not supported
[13:51] <Bombo> crap.
[13:51] <tomodachi> Bombo: yup basically dksm cant build your module for this bleeding edge kernel you are using
[13:51] <tomodachi> that what sucks with having modules that dont come directly with the kernel
[13:52] <Bombo> indeed
[13:52] <Bombo> whats the latest kernel that is supported then?
[13:53] <Bombo> /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331/331.113/build/nv-drm.c:213:5: error: implicit declaration of function ‘drm_gem_object_unreference_unlocked’
[13:54] <Bombo> maybe just an old gcc issue then?
[13:54] <Bombo> gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1)
[13:54] <Bombo> hmm
[14:04] <Guest81083> hi... laptop suspends when connected to A/C but will not suspend on battery. pm-powersave, pm-suspend logs do not show anything when the suspend time occurs
[14:05] <Guest81083> is there anyway i can debug the reason
[14:05] <giampix> ubuntu
[14:06] <Guest81083> settings for both AC and battery are identical
[14:06] <EriC^^_> Guest81083: try dmesg maybe
[14:06] <MariaB> hi, i need help with a burnt disk please
[14:07] <stetho> Hi all. This isn't a "do it for me" question, just a "just checking" question - I have a load of directories that contain hyphens in their names - my-directory,some-other-directory and so on. I need to replace the hyphens with underscores. I'm trying to do it with find . -type -d -exec mv which is currently proving unsuccessful. I just wanted to ask if find is the way to do this or if there's an easier way I haven't discovered with Google?
[14:07] <Guest81083> thanks Eric. I will give it a try and report back
[14:07] <jatt> stetho: if you use emacs, you can easily do it with emacs and wdired mode
[14:07] <EriC^^_> stetho: you can use rename
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> MariaB: whats the problem exactly?
[14:08] <EriC^^_> stetho: man rename, it uses the sed syntax
[14:08] <geirha> stetho: See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/030  for various ways to do it
[14:09] <stetho> EriC^^_ I looked a rename - it "implies" it can't tell the difference between a directory and a file which scared me. I only want to rename directories.
[14:09] <stetho> Did I miss something?
[14:10] <geirha> stetho: You use find to find the directories, and -execdir rename to do the renaming
[14:11] <MariaB> lotuspsychje: hi, my hard disk is freezing the computer and i was told it has bad sectors and i need to check it
[14:11] <cfhowlett> MariaB, and?
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> MariaB: you can check with the ubuntu disk utility and do a SMART test
[14:12] <daftykins> MariaB: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[14:12] <daftykins> i really need to alias that.
[14:12] <MariaB> cfhowlett: i have some data on it which i need to remove and i want to copy ubuntu to a new hard disk i have
[14:12] <cfhowlett> daftykins, I nominate for a factoid ...
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: ill nominate too :p
[14:13] <cfhowlett> MariaB, save the data... DO NOT copy ubuntu.  do a fresh install.  your system is already suspect.
[14:13] <daftykins> cfhowlett: :D i think smart is one but it links to a page that sort of says "learn how to use this", i forget
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> there is a way to request factoids, but forgot howto
[14:13] <daftykins> to be honest i got a bit disillusioned because i've been in -ops with 5+ updates before and every single one got ignored.
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> same here
[14:13] <daftykins> !amd
[14:13] <MACscr> hmm, why are my ubuntu systems being assigned so many ipv6 addresses by dhcp?
[14:13]  * cfhowlett feels disillusioned as well
[14:14] <daftykins> yep still no !amd
[14:14] <jrg> alrighty. just got home.. let me see if this samsung chromebook is ubuntu ready :D
[14:14] <MariaB> daftykins: ok, coming right up
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> jrg: did you read pm
[14:14] <jrg> oh i'm sorry. no. just got back in. dropped my son off at school
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> jrg: there is a crouton script for chrome to run ubuntu in a window
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> jrg: look that up at home :p
[14:15] <jrg> yeah i saw that but i wanted bare metal ubuntu ;)
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> kk no sweat
[14:15] <jrg> oh .. i don't know why i thought this was a samsung... it's an asus
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:16] <jrg> asus C200
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> jrg: well good luck with it
[14:18] <MariaB> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/WpuJrFQn
[14:20] <Guest81083> Hi eric... no logs written to dmesg either
[14:20] <EriC^^_> Guest81083: hmm
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> Guest81083: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and play with suspend a bit, see what errors you get there maybe
[14:22] <daftykins> MariaB: oh wow, as disks go that one is deader than dead
[14:22] <Guest81083> ive tailed syslog pm-powersave/suspend dmesg
[14:22] <MariaB> daftykins: oh, that bad? :)
[14:22] <Guest81083> no logs written when the timeout occurs
[14:22] <daftykins> MariaB: yep, lines 65 and 197 are your main ones
[14:23] <Guest81083> i have the exact same settings for AC and battery
[14:23] <daftykins> MariaB: sorry 65 and 80
[14:23] <Guest81083> and the laptop suspends without issues on AC, but not on battery
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> Guest81083: thats very weird indeed, what kind of laptop is this?
[14:23] <MariaB> daftykins: is it still possible to recover the data that's on it?
[14:23] <asxetoss> http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | MariaB
[14:23] <asxetoss> i have this problem
[14:23] <Guest81083> Acer v7
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> MariaB: sudo photorec after install to recover data
[14:24] <cfhowlett> MariaB, meantime, you need to cease using it.  every read/write is just making things worse
[14:24] <asxetoss> with alt crt f3 i can login..
[14:24] <daftykins> MariaB: lotuspsychje has your back. follow the advice from a live session, with a second healthy disk connected to recover the data to
[14:24] <asxetoss> Ubuntu gets stuck in a Login Loop
[14:24] <jrg> ah just looked it up
[14:25] <jrg> it' an N2830 intel
[14:25] <jrg> blah
[14:25] <jrg> that's a bit pointless then. i wanted an arm heh
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> Guest81083: maybe install dconf-editor and check power settings there?
[14:26] <jrg> ah well. maybe some day someone will release an arm laptop that's fully 100% functional for ubuntu and doesn't suck :)
[14:26] <jrg> guess i'll stick to the ad-droid tf101 if i want godlike battery life
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> jrg: maybe the XDA forums got a port to your device?
[14:27] <francois_> OpCharlieHebdo
[14:27] <jrg> they do
[14:27] <Guest81083> lotus, i have dconf-editor installed. i am unable to find the PM settings though
[14:27] <jrg> tried it.. it's awful
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> Guest81083: lemme find that holdon
[14:27] <jrg> too much blob from the ad-droid kernel hackery and too buggy
[14:27] <MariaB> daftykins: ok, thank you and lotuspsychje and cfhowlett very much :)
[14:28] <cfhowlett> MariaB, best of luck
[14:29] <jrg> lotuspsychje: some day..... some.... day heh
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> Guest81083: org/gnome/settings/daemon/plugins/power
[14:29] <jrg> hopefully the unity docking portion of phones or maybe there will be more ubuntu tablets if these phones come out
[14:29] <jrg> that use arm
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> Guest81083: did you also check bios for any weird acpi settings maybe?
[14:29] <jrg> i'd give anything for an asus with a battery dock that is like 10x faster and fully works with ubuntu
[14:30] <jrg> this thing can stay on for an entire day under heavy use with the battery dock
[14:30] <district97> hi
[14:30] <Guest81083> lotuspsychje : the bios settings only allow for change of boot order ..nothing else
[14:31] <district97> ita?
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !it | district97
[14:31] <district97> ah ok thanks bro
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Guest81083 maybe the no_acpi setting from here might help?
[14:32] <wyx> Hey guys, I've a little issue with my other machine. I've installed ubuntu 14.10 with live dvd and it works, but on the first boot it stays black. there is just a blinking underscore on the second line. any suggestions? btw the right boot device is selected ;)
[14:33] <kchristianthomas> Hi
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> wyx: did you try also 14.04?
[14:34] <wyx> lotuspsychje: yep tried both. same result. I've also tried to enter the grub menu by pressing and holding shift during boot or by pressing esc. but it didnt work. I've tried legacy and uefi booting too
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> wyx: you sure you turned off fastboot + secureboot correctly?
[14:35] <wyx> lotuspsychje: i hope so... i'll check it once again.
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> wyx: yes doublecheck, that fastboot options can hide somewhere deep soemtimes
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | wyx
[14:37] <wyx> lotuspsychje: fastboot was disabled, and bootmode is legacy only, cant find anything regarding secure boot.
[14:37] <phre4k> where do I get Pidgin 2.10.11? Is it in backports?
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> wyx: normally if you set to legacy, must be good
[14:38] <wyx> lotuspsychje: thought so ;)
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> wyx: so, if you boot your usb can you hit f1 to see options?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> wyx: choose setup or live
[14:39] <wyx> lotuspsychje: sure if i'm booting it from the live image.i can run both...
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> wyx: yes, but can you try F1 at the boot of your usb to enter more options
[14:40] <jflt> Hello
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> wyx: nomodeset etc
[14:40] <wyx> lotuspsychje: okay booted
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> wyx: looks like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/O2m9a.png
[14:41] <wyx> lotuspsychje: yeah thanks, got it
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> wyx: you could try nomodeset, what kind of machine is this?
[14:43] <wyx> lotuspsychje: nomodeset and boot from first hard disk?
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> wyx: yes
[14:43] <jflt> I need some support with wine for ubuntu, if someone can help me i would really appreciate it
[14:43] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, that's another pic worth saving!
[14:43] <cfhowlett> !wine | jflt
[14:44] <wyx> lotuspsychje: it's an gigabyte h87-d3h with an i5
[14:44] <solsTiCe> !ask | jflt
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: yeah would be handy isnt it, to make us poor supporters life more easy :p
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> wyx: you recall what grafix card?
[14:45] <wyx> lotuspsychje: nvidia 560 i think. I've been running arch on it without any issue
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> wyx: you know if thats an optimus card?
[14:46] <wyx> lotuspsychje: nope its a general desktop card without any acceleration and stuff. quite linux friendly from my experience ;)
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> kk
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> wyx: very strange that 14.04 doesnt wanna install friendly on your box..
[14:48] <Guest81083> ok.. i unticked the use-time for policy and the laptop suspended on battery...weird that it would have an effect..but i am glad i can suspend the laptop..thanks everyone
[14:48] <wyx> lotuspsychje: okay with nomodset it's "booting from local disl... Boot failed: press a key to retry..." maybe it's connected, that i got a ssd, which i've used for my system and 2 HDDs for data... probably grub messed up with boot volumes
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Guest81083
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> wyx: did you check if your bios is set from IDE to AHCI for ssd?
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> wyx: what i would do is re-try 14.04.1 fresh, with internet/updates enabled during setup, see what that does
[14:52] <wyx> lotuspsychje: Sata controller is enabled and set to ahci, i've tried 14.04 quite a few time without connections. i'll try disabling the both hdds during the first boot now
[14:52] <asxetoss> the tty login work but the gui mode not login.. just loop.. Help pls..
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> wyx: i would try install right away 14.04 not the live session
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> asxetoss: ubuntu version?
[14:53] <asxetoss> lotuspsychje: 14.04.1 lts
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> asxetoss: you installed fresh also? other ubuntu versions worked for you?
[14:54] <Guest81083> test
[14:54] <wyx> lotuspsychje: k. disabling both hdds via the controller didnt work too. dding my thumbdrive again ;) but thanks for your help up to this point
[14:54] <asxetoss> lotuspsychje: is not fresh .. the problem is bc i changet password.. in recovery mode.. i think..
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> asxetoss: try fix broken packages from failsafeX recovery, or reinstall
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> wyx: doesnt make sense 14.04 doesnt wanna boot
[15:00] <wyx> lotuspsychje: yeah for me neither trying it again now
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> wyx: let me know if you can enter the 14.04 setup screen
[15:02] <wyx> lotuspsychje: entered. i would just proceede with install ubuntu
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> wyx: yes try :p
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> wyx: you can also see your ssd from the setup?
[15:08] <wyx> lotuspsychje: now i've tried the 14.04.1 installation and got a kernel panic... i'm redownloading the image and try it on another thumbdrive.and yeah i saw my ssd
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> ok
[15:09] <premoboss> hello. in /etc/network/interfaces i have eth0 configured as static. There is address (192.168.1.10), netmask (255.255.255.0), network (129.168.1.0) and broardcast (192.168.1.255). I guss if "network" and "broadcast" must be present or not?
[15:09] <daftykins> premoboss: nope unnecessary
[15:09] <daftykins> premoboss: only address, netmask, gateway
[15:09] <premoboss> ok
[15:10] <daftykins> maybe nameservers if you want to override
[15:10] <daftykins> or remove the package 'resolvconf' then hardcode into /etc/resolv.conf
[15:10] <premoboss> i suspect they are uneecessary because .0 and .255 should be reserved automatically
[15:10] <premoboss> i wll take only add, net and gat,
[15:11] <premoboss> i set nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
[15:11] <daftykins> that gets overridden at boot if resolvconf is present
[15:11] <backbox> hi
[15:11] <backbox> hackers
[15:12] <premoboss> resolfconf overvrite /etc/reseolv.com in bad mode "nameserver 192.168.1.1" and take my PC outside internet.
[15:12] <premoboss> daftykins, i solver with attr -i /etc/resolv.conf
[15:12] <daftykins> i don't think that's a solution offhand, but i'm not familiar with that method
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> premoboss: maybe the ##networking guys might point you to the right direction?
[15:13] <premoboss> i dont understand why it overwrite my reselv.conf in a way that mahe interent not reachable.
[15:13] <premoboss> lotuspsychje, could be, thnaks.
[15:14] <daftykins> your router might be 1.254 and not 1.1
[15:16] <wyx> lotuspsychje: back in business, entered the setup menu ;)
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> wyx: lets cross our fingers :p
[15:17] <wyx> lotuspsychje: okay without interent connection, no encryption, no lvm, no dualboot
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> wyx: enable inernet
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> wyx: + updates, thats important to let ubuntu choose right grafix driver
[15:18] <wyx> lotuspsychje: okay
[15:19] <cobra-the-joker> does this channel supports ubuntu gnome version on ubuntugnome.com ?
[15:19] <coolstar> is it possible to set up an HTTP proxy server on my computer that uses a SOCKS5 proxy?
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> cobra-the-joker: yes, and also the #gnome channel
[15:19] <EriC^^_> cobra-the-joker: if it's 12.04/14.04/14.10 yes
[15:20] <cfhowlett> cobra-the-joker, possibly.  ask your question
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> coolstar: you want to run a server, or just being anon yourself?
[15:21] <cfhowlett> cobra-the-joker, note: #ubuntu-gnome is the correct channel
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: tnx for the hint
[15:22] <coolstar> lotuspsychje, I currently use SSH to bypass web restrictions at school (SSH creates a socks5 proxy on my laptop), but if I want to get my iPhone unblocked I need to set up an HTTP proxy on here as well
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> !squid | coolstar
[15:22] <cobra-the-joker> nice ... i was just wondering if it is an official release of ubuntu supported by the community
[15:23] <MestreLion> is there a way to programatically get the default prefix for new users HOME dir? In other words: where is "/home" defined?
[15:23] <MariaB> MestreLion: echo ~<user>
[15:23] <MestreLion> MariaB: that's for the home dir of an existing user, correct?
[15:23] <coolstar> lotuspsychje, I'm assuming I just use squid without squidguard?
[15:24] <huma> how come ubuntu server minimal system takes almost 1 gb of space?
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> coolstar: didnt test myself
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> huma: what do you want to achieve?
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> cobra-the-joker: yes its supported
[15:26] <daftykins> huma: that's the way it goes. it was about 700MB 5 years ago, so no real huge change
[15:26] <MariaB> MestreLion: yes
[15:26] <MestreLion> MariaB: that's for existing users, which can be different than the default. Also, '~' does not work in scripts
[15:27] <cousteau> Hi, I have openjdk-6-jdk installed.  I want to install Java 7.  Is it enough to just install openjdk-7-jre, or will this cause lots of trouble due to having 2 java versions installed?
[15:27] <cousteau> or will /etc/alternatives handle that?
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> !java | cousteau
[15:27] <daftykins> cousteau: you'd then use some kind of update-alternatives command yeah
[15:28] <huma> lotuspsychje, daftykins: i'm going through the os dev book which uses ubuntu and coming from arch pretty amazed how bloated the "minimal system" on ubuntu is :)
[15:28] <MestreLion> I need a way to get (or set) the default prefix for new users. The convention is "/home", but is that defined anywhere in a system?
[15:28] <MariaB> MestreLion: it will show the home dir of an existing user, it works in scripts.
[15:28] <cousteau> ok, so `sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk` would be enough?
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> huma: what did you expect really? how small do you need it?
[15:28] <tomodachi> MestreLion: the home folder is defined in the passwdfile
[15:28] <cousteau> (assuming I also want to compile java)
[15:28] <daftykins> huma: apparently it turned 2015 the other day ;)
[15:29] <cousteau> ...well, now that I think of it, maybe I only install the jre; that way if I ever compile Java it'll use the v6 JDK and thus be compatible with java 6
[15:29] <daftykins> MestreLion: if nobody comes up with anything, #bash
[15:29] <MestreLion> cousteau: you should also upgrade the icedtea-plugin
[15:29] <wyx> lotuspsychje: ha i've probably spotted the error... my ssd is sdb, and during the installation it saided grubinstall /dev/sda...
[15:29] <cousteau> MestreLion, ok.  Screw icedtea though.
[15:29] <cousteau> having flash in the browser is enough trouble already
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> wyx: ahhhh, you need to config your ssd to primary then, for fast ubuntu boot
[15:30] <wyx> lotuspsychje: it installed grub to the wrong harddisk...now i booted from my hdd and it works.
[15:30] <MestreLion> cousteau: yes, update-alternatives handle the switch, but since there are *many* java-related switches, there is update-java-alternatives :)
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> wyx: but you installed ubuntu on mechanical hd instead of ssd?
[15:31] <MestreLion> cousteau: which will switch all alternatives at once for your chosen java version
[15:31] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: partitioned ok it sounds like
[15:31] <daftykins> just GRUB in the wrong spot
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> ahh
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> kk
[15:31] <cousteau> MestreLion, wait, is icedtea only the browser plugin?  or also some sort of java runtime thing I'll always need?
[15:31] <wyx> lotuspsychje: nope... thats the trick. I've installed everything on the sdd (/dev/sdb) and it automatically made the grubinstall to /dev/sda (one of my hdds)
[15:31] <MestreLion> cousteau: the java browser plugin only. But if you have it, it should match your current java version
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> wyx: did you build your system, or plugin a new ssd?
[15:32] <wyx> lotuspsychje: i've always tried to boot from my sdd /dev/sdb what didnt wokr.
[15:32] <huma> lotuspsychje: i'd expect a "minimal system" to be about 250 mb
[15:32] <wyx> lotuspsychje: both ;)
[15:32] <cousteau> MestreLion, ok, so it's irrelevant that I still have openjdk-6-jre?  If the default Java is 7 it won't work?
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> wyx: maybe sata configged wrong, so it doesnt take ssd as primary?
[15:32] <cousteau> (also, aren't these things backwards compatible?)
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> wyx: wich ssd brand plz?
[15:33] <MestreLion> cousteau: you can have both java 6 and 7, and set up which will be the default using `update-java-alternatives`. Do not use `update-alternatives` directly, there are dozen of aliases
[15:33] <huma> daftykins: 2015, indeed. hmm, let's see how much arch is taking up these days on the minimal installation.
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> huma: not sure if a server can be so small, check the #ubuntu-server guys
[15:33] <cousteau> oh I see
[15:34] <cousteau> what's the command?  `update-java-alternatives --auto`?
[15:34] <wyx> lotuspsychje: it's an crucial m4. 128 gig. yeah maybe i'll leave grub on my hdd or i'll just make another grub-install to sdb
[15:34] <wyx> lotuspsychje: or do you recommend switching the sata channels?
[15:34] <cousteau> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java doesn't even mention update-java-alternatives
[15:34] <daftykins> huma: i think the idea is to provide a minimal setup with a lot of commonly used tools etc etc, i'm sure you could prune it a lot.
[15:34] <sheer> i have this stop sign coming up at the top right of my ubuntu 14.04
[15:35] <sheer> near the wifi/time icons
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> wyx: nice one, i would checkout POST boot info, to see what hd boots first
[15:35] <MestreLion> cousteau: --list first, then --set <you chosen one>
[15:35] <EriC^^_> sheer: that's probably the package manager reporting an error
[15:35] <sheer> EriC^^_, it is. what do i do about it?
[15:35] <EriC^^_> sheer: click on it
[15:35] <sheer> i did.
[15:35] <EriC^^_> try sudo apt-get -f install
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> wyx: anyway enjoy your ubuntu experience now :p
[15:36] <sheer> oh. and it just vanished. only about a minute after doing that command you just gave me. thank you.
[15:36] <MestreLion> cousteau: --auto will set the version defined as default for your ubuntu relase. Thats java 6 for 12.04 and 7 for 14.04
[15:36] <cousteau> MestreLion, hmm, that only shows version 6-- oh damn, I forgot to remove the -s in apt-get  m(
[15:36] <wyx> lotuspsychje: i'll chekc on that tomorrow. but thanks for your help anyway. ;) yeah just this tiny little glimps with grub-install /dev/sda. not quite sure if it's a bug if you install to /dev/sdb and the grub-install still goes for /dev/sda
[15:37] <sheer> EriC^^_, before i go through the linux commandline ebook....... how do i uninstall pidgin from the command lien?
[15:37] <sheer> line*
[15:37] <EriC^^_> sheer: sudo apt-get purge <package>
[15:37] <MestreLion> cousteau: theres also the package `default-jdk/jre`, which will install the default version for your release
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> wyx: sounds like hd's are switched around places from bios/mobo
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> wyx: trusty will go rocketfast on your crucial :p
[15:37] <sheer> thanks again
[15:38] <wyx> lotuspsychje: thanks and bye ;)
[15:38] <MestreLion> cousteau: so if you don't have any need for a specific version and simply wants to install java, go with "sudo apt-get install default-jdk". and IIRC, it will also pull the plugin
[15:39] <cousteau> yeah, this is an old ubuntu and that version is 1.6, but I need 1.7
[15:40] <daftykins> cousteau: how old? :P
[15:40] <cousteau> 12.04
[15:41] <MestreLion> cousteau: then all you need is `sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk icedtea-7-plugin`
[15:41] <cousteau> (it's the PC at work and I don't want to do many weird things on it)
[15:42] <cousteau> is the JDK necessary/recommended?  if I'm ever going to make Java I'd prefer to make it as portable as possible, so maybe JDK should remain at 1.6
[15:42] <MestreLion> cousteau: it will pull all the needed java-related packages. It will not remove java 6, and it *may* also set the new version as the default, but you could check using update-java-alternatives
[15:43] <cousteau> well, apt-get install openjdk-7-jre didn't set the alternative directly, but your update-java-alternatives trick worked
[15:43] <district97> hi guys i have to now how to join ubuntu italy
[15:43] <MestreLion> cousteau: because that's just the jre
[15:44] <k1l_> district97: /join #ubuntu-it
[15:45] <cfhowlett> !it | district97
[15:45] <district97> how i write that message
[15:45] <cousteau> district97, repeat with me:
[15:45] <cousteau> /join #ubuntu-it
[15:45] <MestreLion> cousteau: it's 2015, it's pretty safe (and recommended) to develop using java 7. It will work fine in java 6 too as long as you don't use any java 7-specific routines
[15:46] <district97> thanks guys
[15:46] <cousteau> yw :)
[15:46] <cousteau> MestreLion, well, it's not the first time I run into "version 51 not found!" messages...  are you sure this only happens if I use 7-only functions?
[15:47] <MestreLion> cousteau: incompatibilities goes both ways, so if I face one I'd rather ask a user to upgrade from 6 to 7 than asking to downgrade his 7 to 6
[15:47] <cousteau> ok, screw it then
[15:48] <Magnus__> Question: How is ps -A different from sudo ps -A? Maybe they the same?
[15:48] <cousteau> Magnus__, well, the sudo one may show things the regular one can't
[15:49] <michagogo> Question about the upgrade from tar 1.26 (in 12.04) to tar 1.27 (14.04). The release notes say this:
[15:49] <michagogo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Y5i5zPW0
[15:49] <cousteau> MestreLion, and it seems that I needed the update-java-alternatives anyway
[15:49] <Magnus__> Such as?
[15:49] <michagogo> Does that now mean that --skip-old-files is what -k *used* to be?
[15:49] <cousteau> Magnus__, processes owned by root that are hidden to other users
[15:49] <cousteau> (no idea which)
[15:49] <Magnus__> Thanks
[15:50] <MestreLion> cousteau: for example: java 7 is available since *at least* Ubuntu 10.04. We don't know how log will Java 6 be available for new distros.
[15:50] <EriC^^_> Magnus__: diff <(ps -A ) <(sudo ps -A) will tell you which
[15:51] <MestreLion> cousteau: also windows machines tends to have 7 only for several years
[15:51] <k1l_> michagogo: no. keep old files made a error 2 out of duplicates on exiting. -skip old files now just skips them without error
[15:51] <cousteau> MestreLion, really?  weird
[15:52] <k1l_> michagogo: both dont override duplicates, but the old one made a drama, the new one just skips.
[15:52] <cousteau> (does java7 for Windows still have that annoying installer trying to put the ask.com bar everywhere?)
[15:52] <michagogo> k1l_: wait, what?
[15:52] <MestreLion> cousteau: weird how? the java update for windows always install the latest version
[15:52] <Sh3r1ff> cousteau: affirmative ;)
[15:53] <michagogo> k1l_: I know the difference between --skip- and --keep-old-files now in 1.27
[15:53] <MestreLion> and yes it does :)
[15:53] <cousteau> MestreLion, well, weird because the (rare) occasions when I see the updater it says something about version 6 iirc
[15:53] <michagogo> My question is this: as far as I can tell from reading the messages, --skip-old-files in 1.27 is equivalent to -k/--keep-old-files **in 1.26**.
[15:53] <cousteau> although maybe I recall incorrectly
[15:54] <MestreLion> cousteau: on windows?
[15:54] <michagogo> Is that incorrect?
[15:54] <cousteau> MestreLion, yes but as I said I rarely go there and I rarely run the updater
[15:54] <cousteau> anyway this went offtopic and I don't want to pollute the channel
[15:54] <k1l_> michagogo: in the end: no duplicates are overwritten: yes.
[15:54] <MestreLion> no prob
[15:54] <k1l_> michagogo: but not in the messages you see while its done
[15:55]  * cousteau goes to #ubuntu-offtopic just in case
[15:55] <michagogo> k1l_: I ask because there's a script that uses tar -k, with some of the destination files already existing
[15:55] <michagogo> in precise, that script worked fine
[15:55] <michagogo> Now, in trusty, it fails and says "Cannot open: File exists"
[15:56] <k1l_> michagogo: yes, use the skip option
[15:56] <michagogo> k1l_: so the exact behavior of 1.26's -k is not 1.27's --skip?
[15:57] <michagogo> s/not/now/
[15:57] <MestreLion> tomodachi: /etc/passwrd lists the current home dir of each existing user. New users by default are set to "/home/<username>". Is that default defined anywhere an admin could change, or a script could read?
[15:57] <k1l_> michagogo: from man tar on 14.10: -k, --keep-old-files       don't replace existing files when extracting, treat them as errors
[15:57] <michagogo> k1l_: ...yes
[15:58] <michagogo> I know what -k does in trusty (and presumably also in utopic)
[15:58] <michagogo> yes, just checked, they're both 1.27
[15:58] <k1l_> michagogo: so they are errors now. you want to use --skip-old-files if you dont want them to be treated as errors
[15:59] <michagogo> k1l_: I was just looking for confirmation that 1.26 (12.04)'s -k is exactly parallel to 1.27's --skip-old-files
[15:59] <michagogo> And it sounds like that's the case
[15:59] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, whenever I transfer files with SFTP it saturates my entire connection and I can not load any simple http pages or ping anything. This is on a commercial network connection as well. The actual 'speed' of transfer is nowhere near the cap of the connection.
[15:59] <Pinkamena_D> Can I throttle it somehow?
[16:00] <k1l_> michagogo:  -k, --keep-old-files       don't replace existing files when extracting    <<< that is from a 12.04
[16:00] <michagogo> k1l_: yeah, already looked at that manpage
[16:00] <michagogo> It does, however, silently ignore them, rather than being an error
[16:00] <k1l_> michagogo: so its really like they said in their changelog: they changed -k from no errors to errors :)
[16:00] <michagogo> Okay, thanks
[16:01] <Bobbo> So I just installed Ubuntu 14 on my desktop rig, and after login it freezes, I've got a nvidia card (650 Ti Boost), in 12.04 I had no problems. Seems to happen with nouveau, nvidia-304 (from repo), nvidia-331.38 from nvidia's website wouldn't install (haven't checked into that fully yet), and regardless of DE (tested unity, gnome 3 and xfce). Any suggestions from savvy people? :)
[16:01] <Bobbo> also,please ^
[16:01] <geirha> MestreLion: /etc/adduser.conf
[16:01] <daftykins> Bobbo: there is more than just 304 from built-in repos, 319 and 331 too.
[16:02] <MestreLion> thanks geirha ! :D
[16:02] <Bobbo> daftykins: sorry, that was from nvidia-current.
[16:02] <daftykins> Bobbo: purge nvidia* then install nvidia-331 anyway
[16:03] <tomodachi> MestreLion: well depends on how you add the account, if you use useradd the manpage states that it will use the home folder specified in the  /etc/default/useradd  or /home/ by default
[16:03] <BluesKaj> Bobbo, which ubuntu 14?  14.04 or 14.10 ?
[16:03] <Bobbo> 14.04
[16:03] <geirha> Best avoid using useradd unless you have a good reason to
[16:04] <MestreLion> thanks guys! I'll read both /etc/default/useradd and /etc/adduser.conf :)
[16:04] <BluesKaj> good luck with nvidia, the 331 card isn't available for it afaik, try the 319 driver
[16:04] <BluesKaj> Bobbo, ^
[16:05] <Bobbo> uhh, okay
[16:05] <BluesKaj> err 331 driver, rather
[16:05] <Bobbo> wait, what?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> install the 319
[16:07] <Bobbo> kay
[16:07] <soverc> I want to be able to start ubuntu with no gui, but also start gui, but also end gui session, can anyone point me towards how
[16:07] <Bobbo> Hopefully this'll work, thanks. :3
[16:09] <daftykins> !info nvidia-331 trusty
[16:10] <daftykins> Bobbo BluesKaj ^
[16:11] <ppf> how exactly are package dependencies handled?
[16:11] <ppf> for instance, apt-cache showpkg gpgsm lists several dependencies, among them "gnupg2"
[16:12] <ppf> however, when i try to install gpgsm, gnupg2 is _not_ going to be installed
[16:12] <Magnus__> Q: What is the best way to find and kill a process?
[16:12] <ppf> is that a bug? or a feature?
[16:12] <Bobbo> Magnus__: ps -C command_name to get the pid
[16:12] <cecja> MannerMan: ps -X
[16:13] <Bobbo> What does -X do? :P
[16:13] <yukino> hey
[16:14] <yukino> ivr got a problem my wifi drivers wont show i need help asap
[16:14] <Bobbo> daftykins: BluesKaj : no dice, still happening. =/
[16:14] <yukino> anyone think that could  help its for a toshiba portage m400
[16:15] <daftykins> Bobbo: you removed the one from the website, presumably?
[16:15] <ppf> Bobbo: what is the problem with the latest ones from the website?
[16:15] <daftykins> Bobbo: also confirm it's actually getting used by checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log - i gotta head off now though
[16:15] <Bobbo> The website version never installed; couldn't build the kernel module. I should of read into it more. :£
[16:16] <daftykins> ah i see
[16:16] <ppf> Bobbo: where did it fail
[16:16] <daftykins> latest won't help you anyway
[16:16] <BluesKaj> Bobbo, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:17] <Bobbo> Looks like it's loading nouveua.
[16:17] <Bobbo> Wait
[16:17] <Bobbo> It's loading both?
[16:17] <daftykins> nope
[16:17] <BluesKaj> nope
[16:17] <Bobbo> In my log I've got "LoadModule: "nvidia""
[16:17] <Bobbo> and thne a few lines down
[16:17] <Bobbo> In my log I've got "LoadModule: "nouveau""
[16:18] <ppf> you should remove nouveau and install the latest drivers from nvidias website
[16:18] <ppf> during installation, it will update your xorg.conf as well
[16:18] <daftykins> ppf: sorry but that's terrible advice
[16:18] <yukino> cant anyone help with wireless set up
[16:18] <daftykins> you don't even need a xorg.conf
[16:18] <yukino> i have a m400 toshiba
[16:18] <BluesKaj> no need to remove nouveau , just reboot , Bobbo
[16:18] <hydrajump> hi
[16:18] <Bobbo> I already did, BluesKaj.
[16:19] <BluesKaj> did you run sudo nvidia-xconfig ? Bobbo
[16:19] <Bobbo> Am now. :£
[16:20] <hydrajump> i've successfully been using ubuntu mini 14.04 with just installing `xserver-xorg and lightdm`, but now I'm trying to reduce the amount of packages that get installed and I'm trying with the following `            sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-ati
[16:20] <ppf> daftykins: i didn't have so good of an experience with the nouveau drivers, and sometimes the original nvidia drivers work very well
[16:20] <hydrajump> and `sudo apt-get install --no-installed-recommends lightdm`
[16:21] <Bobbo> BluesKaj: No dice. :3
[16:21] <ppf> the last part is definitely not true for all versions of their drivers, but the latest one appear to work great so far (for me, that is)
[16:21] <hydrajump> but it seems that I'm missing something because when I reboot the system I don't see the lightdm login greeter.
[16:21] <ppf> hydrajump: do you see no greeter at all? or just a different one?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Bobbo,  roll the dice again by rebooting
[16:23] <hydrajump> ppf: hi I just see the command line login prompt. no greeter.
[16:23] <ubuntu> @b0d1$
[16:23] <hydrajump> I got the minimal X Windows packages suggestion from here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/128860/minimal-x-org-xserver-installation-on-debian-wheezy
[16:23] <ppf> okay, can you login there, and run "sudo service lightdm start"
[16:24] <hydrajump> ok let me try
[16:24] <Bobbo> BluesKaj: Still nope. :3
[16:24] <hydrajump> ppf: I'm getting `start: Job failed to start`
[16:25] <ppf> go take a look at what lightdm has to say about that in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[16:25] <BluesKaj> Bobbo,  lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D'
[16:25] <hydrajump> I don't know if the problem is with my X Windows minimal install missing something or if it is the no-install-recommends lightdm that only installs 3 and not the full 480 packages :(
[16:26] <hydrajump> ppf: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5c3feb073d466b094eac#file-gistfile1-txt-L24
[16:27] <hydrajump> can you pls take a look
[16:27] <Bobbo> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9719253
[16:28] <noor_> in the name of god
[16:28] <ppf> i think you should install xorg and some window manager, such as openbox
[16:29] <backbox> hhahahaha payload generated
[16:29] <BluesKaj> Bobbo, "Kernel driver in use: nvidia"
[16:30] <ppf> does anyone have any input on my packaging question from earlier?
[16:31] <ppf> why is it that when i try to install gpgsm, it does not install gnupg2 along with it?
[16:32] <farbod> hi,i know this channel isnt for my question but pls answer me :)
[16:32] <cfhowlett> farbod, you are seen
[16:32] <EriC^^_> ppf: it's not a dependency, it actually breaks gnupg2
[16:32] <EriC^^_> ppf: apt-cache show gpgsm
[16:33] <k1l_> farbod: if you already know its offtopic you can ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or search for a channel that suits your question better with alis
[16:33] <k1l_> !alis | farbod
[16:33] <ppf> what's the difference between apt-cache's show and showpkg?
[16:33] <farbod> i want to buy a MacBook pro for coding(php,python,html....) what is your idea about it?
[16:34] <k1l_> farbod: that is offtopic here, please ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:34] <cfhowlett> farbod, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place to discuss.  Thank you.
[16:34] <sangwoojoo> How do I improve the key-rate speed extremely?
[16:34] <farbod> thank you :)
[16:34] <ppf> EriC^^_: because in showpkg it's listed as a dependency
[16:34] <ppf> (furthermore, how does gpgsm break gnupg2?)
[16:36] <lv_> anyone know if 1.0.1f-1ubuntu10 is to be published to ubuntu repos soon?
[16:36] <lv_> this is the package fixing the openssl vulnerabilities listed in CVE-2015-0205 and others
[16:36] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu
[16:36] <k1l_> lv_: of what package?
[16:36] <lv_> k1l_: sorry openssl
[16:37] <k1l_> lv_: in general, ubuntu patches the security issues. it does not mean that the version number is increased
[16:37] <lv_> ok , we haven't seen anything yet
[16:38] <k1l_> lv_: here is the status of that cve: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2015/CVE-2015-0205.html
[16:38] <EriC^^_> ppf: i have no idea
[16:39] <EriC^^_> ppf: apt-cache depends gpgsm says it will break it too, i dont know
[16:39] <ppf> okay
[16:41] <EriC^^_> ppf: i'd say showpkg aren't that accurate, if i had to guess
[16:42] <ppf> i think gnupg 2.x actuelly implements s/mime, so it looks like it is a replacement of gpgsm
[16:43] <ppf> i'm looking into a packaging problem with claws-mail right now, where there appears to be a confusion between gpgsm and gnupg2, but i guess that's something i should take over to #claws?
[16:45] <EriC^^_> ppf: yeah
[16:46] <cfhowlett> EriC^^_, don't all the apt-cache command pull from the same package database?  I don't understand why showpkg could be more or less accurate than other apt-cache command
[16:46] <EriC^^_> cfhowlett: me neither, but showpkg supposedly pulls forward dependencies, so it's recursive, and i guess it has a bug or something
[16:47] <cfhowlett> EriC^^_, OK
[16:47] <EriC^^_> i had a list of forward dependencies of gcc for someone who asked here once, and bogus stuff show in in showpkg
[16:49] <cfhowlett> EriC^^_, dang!
[16:49] <EyeOfMidas> Is there a way I can debug lightdm startup scripts? I can't tell if mine are running or just broken.
[16:49] <ActionParsnip_> EyeOfMidas: In your script, add lines to echo text to a file, you can then read the file and know the script is running
[16:51] <EyeOfMidas> @ActionParsnip_ great idea. Thanks :)
[16:53] <EyeOfMidas> It worked! Except this means my script is broken.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip_> ok well have the echos output variables and such to the text file so you can see what is being used.
[16:55] <UbuN2> hello Linux community .
[16:56] <EyeOfMidas> Is there any reason why xrandr wouldn't make the requested changes on either display-setup-script or greeter-setup-script?
[16:56] <cfhowlett> UbuN2, ask you ubuntu questions
[16:57] <EyeOfMidas> This isn't working for me, but I'm not sure why: http://askubuntu.com/questions/408302/rotated-monitor-login-screen-needs-rotation
[16:58] <UbuN2> idont have any cfhowlett thanks.
[16:59] <yourbeau> does anyone know how to disable the nvidia optimus GPU in Ubuntu ?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip_> yepla: try exporting the screen to 0:0
[16:59] <strangler> yourbeau: why
[16:59] <EriC^^_> strangler: dont pm ne nasty stuff please
[16:59] <EriC^^_> strangler: if you have something to say, say it here
[17:00] <EriC^^_> ( like a man )
[17:00] <strangler> yourbeau: Why disable nvidia
[17:00] <yourbeau> strangler, Its nvidia GT Geforce 635 and performance wise it sucks
[17:00] <yourbeau> strangler, I have Intel Graphics as well and it would be fine for me
[17:00] <UbuN2> im getting silly pm`s from strangler too
[17:01] <strangler> GeForce 635 . yourbeau that's a beast. Intel crawls compared to intell
[17:02] <strangler> GeForce 635 . yourbeau that's a beast. Intel crawls compared to nvidia
[17:02] <strangler> yourbeau: maybe it's already disabled and your using Intel.
[17:03] <Malcorox> morning all
[17:04] <yourbeau> strangler, look that might be beast but only with non-free drivers I don't like it
[17:05] <KaaK> how can I manipulate the system time?
[17:05] <KaaK> everytime I use date to set it -- something is correcting it back
[17:06] <KaaK> as far as I can gather, NTP is not enabled ...
[17:06] <EyeOfMidas> My system can run the script just fine, and xrandr sets everything up corrrectly. But when I put the same script under greeter-setup-script it doesn't seem to change the monitor configuration
[17:07] <EyeOfMidas> but the script is definitely being called
[17:07] <Malcorox> does anyone frequently work with wget?
[17:07] <cfhowlett> Malcorox, a bit
[17:08] <Malcorox> cfhowlett: is it possible to wget a page looking for a username/password form?
[17:08] <strangler> yourbeau: maybe do it in bios.
[17:08] <Malcorox> possible regex, but not sure if there is an option or response within wget that would indicate the presence already
[17:08] <cfhowlett> Malcorox, you mean interactively sign in?
[17:08] <Malcorox> onpe
[17:08] <Malcorox> nope*
[17:09] <yourbeau> strangler, it is not available in the bios of my laptop
[17:09] <Malcorox> wget -optionsforlookingforpasswordpromptonsite sss.com
[17:09] <Bobbo> I *think* wget has some kind of support for specifying a username and a password, but I'm not sure how it works fully. You'd have to check the man page
[17:09] <Fire_Cat> jon
[17:10] <Fire_Cat> help
[17:10] <Fire_Cat> 请问怎么进中文ubuntu
[17:10] <cfhowlett> !cn | Fire_Cat
[17:10] <cfhowlett> Malcorox, I get it ... never used that option though.  checking the man page
[17:13] <Fire_Cat_> 请问怎么进ubuntu中文频道?
[17:13] <Malcorox> cfhowlett: it's going to be an aha moment, but for now, it's something that's been puzzling me for about a week
[17:13] <cfhowlett> Malcorox, you can definitely pass a proxy login/passwordd
[17:14] <Evanion> MaaS Question .. Does the MaaS server handle the DHCP on the private network, or would that be something that I have to add separately?
[17:14] <Malcorox> cfhowlett: yup, just looking for how that affects the output for validation against sites that do or don't have a prompt for credentials
[17:15] <Malcorox> e.g. pass in a list of URLs into wget, with the proper options to pass username/password if a form exists
[17:15] <Malcorox> might be able to look for an 'invalid username/password' in the response though
[17:15] <cfhowlett> Malcorox, again: never done that but ... looks like the --post-date=string or --post-file=file options are what you're after
[17:16] <Malcorox> cfhowlett: thanks, I'm going to check in on this, see if I can get it to work
[17:29] <mikethebos> how do i use ghex to identify 0x0f in a jpg file
[17:35] <nlern> hello everyone!
[17:36] <mikethebos> how do i use ghex to identify 0x0f in a jpg file
[17:37] <ozux> what is the default sound server in ubuntu? (Current stable)
[17:38] <nlern> I have just installed Return to Castle Wolfenstein in Ubuntu 14.04. The game runs but there is no sound. I get the following error:/dev/dsp: No such file or directory.\nCould not open /dev/dsp. Help please!
[17:40] <cfhowlett> nlern, there is no linux version of this game so ... steam???
[17:41] <b1001> What command would you use to see if a specific service is set in a specific runlevel (ubuntu equivelant to chkconfig --list <service>)
[17:41] <nlern> cfhowlett:I had the CD image and there are installer for linux availiable online (search google). From there I installed it.
[17:42] <theadmin> b1001: Ubuntu does not use runlevels.
[17:42] <jpds> b1001: There are no runlevels on Ubuntu.
[17:42] <cfhowlett> nlern, yeah, you found a 3rd party crack.  not supported here.  ask the programmer
[17:42] <mikethebos> how do i use ghex to identify 0x0f in a jpg file
[17:43] <theadmin> ozux: PulseAudio
[17:43] <nlern> No, not a crack! there is a ubuntu page giving installation instruction also.
[17:43] <cfhowlett> nlern, ???
[17:43] <cfhowlett> nlern, I stand corrected!  sorry.
[17:44] <nlern> check:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/ReturnToCastleWolfenstein and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1417963
[17:44] <cfhowlett> nlern, still: probably best you ask the publisher as this is not an ubuntu program
[17:45] <b1001> theadmin, jpds: right..
[17:45] <b1001> :D
[17:46] <nlern> cfhowlett: the game is using OSS program probably and I want to know how to force it to use pulseaudio that's all
[17:46] <theadmin> nlern: padsp
[17:47] <theadmin> nlern: padsp /path/to/your/program
[17:47] <theadmin> nlern: That will create a fake /dev/dsp for that program to use which will redirect stuff to Pulse
[17:48] <nlern> theadmin: I get following message:Sorry but your soundcard can't do this and no sound comes
[17:48] <Bobbo> So... Further on the startup issue. When logging in the DE never shows, I'm just left hanging with a mouse and the background (although the computer is not unresponsive). Done a clean install (Ubuntu 14.04) and cleared my .config directory so using all new configs. Just installed and rebooted. I've also removed one monitor so I'm only running one VGA device. Any ideas someone please?
[17:49] <theadmin> nlern: ...I don't even know what that means sorry
[17:50] <nlern> theadmin: there is also a configuration file for the program which  sets sound device as follows:"snddevice "/dev/dsp"". Can I change the device from here?
[17:51] <theadmin> nlern: Probably, I dunno
[17:51] <thanius> Hello, I'm trying to write a udev rule to run a script when a DVD is inserted. udev reports changes but doesn't run my script
[17:51] <thanius> Anyone out there that knows how to handle udev?
[17:51] <compdoc> thanius, maybe
[17:52] <compdoc> oh, I see. nm
[17:52] <nlern> OK guys thanks for helping. Bye!
[17:52] <thanius> compdoc: I've got this rule - 99-autodvd.rules: SUBSYSTEM=="block", KERNEL=="sr0", RUN+="/usr/local/bin/autodvd"
[17:52] <KaaK> how can I test a crontab entry for schedule correctness? (*not* job correctness, I can simply redirect to files for that)
[17:52] <thanius> compdoc: On one line, obviously.
[17:53] <KaaK> i want to test that `25 6 * * *` does actually run daily at 6:25am
[17:53] <MariaB> KaaK: set the system clock
[17:53] <thanius> compdoc: The script simply creates a log in my home to see if it works, but alas, it doesn't
[17:53] <compdoc> thanius, Ive never tried to do what youre trying. I didnt see the line that you wrote above
[17:53] <thanius> compdoc: But you know udev?
[17:53] <ozux> theadmin: thanks,
[17:53] <KaaK> MariaB, is there any reason why that would fail? I'm doing exactly that ...
[17:54] <KaaK> so for my 6:25 job, i set the clock the 6:24 and wait
[17:54] <compdoc> thanius, I only know how to work with it and network hardware when things go wrong
[17:54] <MariaB> KaaK: what's the command you're running? does using touch to create a file work?
[17:55] <thanius> compdoc: Alright, thanks anyway.
[17:56] <KaaK> MariaB, system entry (/etc/crontab): 26 6    * * *   root    echo 'test' >> /tmp/cron.test
[17:57] <MariaB> KaaK: add it to root's crontab, crontab -u root -e
[17:58] <MariaB> KaaK: i dont think you should use /etc/crontab , the times will be off
[17:59] <thanius> Anyone else knows how to monitor optical media with udev and have it run a script when there's a disc in?
[18:00] <Jeroi> hello questions about x
[18:00] <Diplomat> Hey everybody! Can you please help me with this command: find /var/named -type f -printf "%AY-%Am-%Ad-%AM-%AS=%f\n" <-- it should output a date when file was last modified and a file name.. like 2015-01-12-19-59=myfile.txt or it would be even better if it could output a timestamp instead of a date. Also for some reason it repeats files like.. it shows files twice
[18:00] <KaaK> MariaB, had to restart cron to pickup the time change ...
[18:01] <KaaK> if up update the time to before the cron task, then restart cron quickly
[18:01] <Jeroi> I have hdd with had default xsession to start program that made fullscreen
[18:01] <KaaK> it will run the task
[18:01] <Jeroi> it uses commandline utilities
[18:01] <elichai2> what the DISPLAY var means?
[18:02] <elichai2> DISPLAY=:0.0 unity --replace
[18:02] <Jeroi> Now I updated 12 o 14 ubuntu which rreplaced gdm to lightdm gave my desktop access and able to see the program files
[18:02] <Jeroi> now
[18:03] <Jeroi> The program have __.xsession and __.bindrc files which incorporates default keys
[18:03] <Malcorox> has anyone worked with curl? haha
[18:03] <bekks> Malcorox: I bet someone already did.
[18:03] <Jeroi> does lightdm support another xsession startup with custom xsession?
[18:03] <Malcorox> bekks: ;)
[18:04] <Jeroi> I mean I need able to boot the program via new xsession and able to switch between desktop and program via hotkeys
[18:05] <EriC^^_> Diplomat: find .... | while read $i; do echo `stat -c %y $i`=$i; done
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> Jeroi  explore the Xnest command
[18:07] <bekks> Jeroi: Can you define "program" a bit further and explain why you cant start it on your desktop?
[18:09] <cody__> anyone with a asus rog laptop have trouble with bumblebee?
[18:10] <Jeroi> well it uses __.xsession to startup startcore.sh
[18:11] <Jeroi> which the uses some commandline utilites to display custom login screen and start loading player
[18:11] <bekks> Jeroi: And you cant use startcore.sh without the __.xsession?
[18:11]  * nickander asus hater
[18:11] <Jeroi> how?
[18:11] <bekks> Jeroi: And which player is it?
[18:11] <Jeroi> melplayer
[18:12] <Jeroi> the problem with it is no internet acces while using it and wanted to have desktop client in it
[18:14] <Jeroi> it's because the xsession loads some window modes, etc
[18:18] <cody__> anyone use bumblebee on a asus rog? i've tried everything to get it to recognize my nvidia 860m
[18:18] <Jeroi> this happens when I try to login as melplay to start new xsession
[18:18] <Jeroi> XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
[18:18] <Jeroi>       after 186 requests (185 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[18:18] <Jeroi> firefox: Fatal IO error 11 (Resurssi ei tilapäisesti ole käytettävissä) on X server :0.0.
[18:18] <Jeroi> The application 'plugin-container' lost its connection to the display :0.0;
[18:18] <Jeroi> most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed
[18:18] <unopaste> Jeroi you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:19] <robin_> I've got a (nearly) fresh install of ubuntu using the new Gnome 3 (?) on my 17" HP ENVY laptop and after I adjusted my display settings for my 32" external monitor (above the default display) there seems to be a hard-region in the middle of my large external monitor. I can't maximize the windows deliberately, and they cannot take up half the screen when I drag to the side and release. What am I doing wrong?
[18:19] <Jeroi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9719829/
[18:19] <cody__> anyone use bumblebee on a asus rog? i've tried everything to get it to recognize my nvidia 860m
[18:20] <Jeroi> here is full xsession error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9719838/
[18:20] <Jeroi> when I try to log in as melplay
[18:21] <Jeroi> I have logged as my account to desktop already so mostlikely the xsession tryies to run AT SESSION 0 WHICH IS IN USE
[18:22] <itisit> Hi, how to remove a package without remove other packages which depend on it?
[18:22] <julian-delphiki> itisit
[18:22] <julian-delphiki> that likely won't work.
[18:23] <fragment137> Taking a chance asking in here but does anyone have experience connecting to XRDP from a Mac?
[18:23] <bubbasaures> itisit, End goal and exact package go a long way.
[18:24] <bubbasaures> !topic | fragment137 yes you are no support
[18:25] <cfhowlett> fragment137, ask ##mac
[18:25] <itisit> julian-delphiki: thanks
[18:25] <itisit> bubbasaures: thanks, so no simple way to do it?
[18:25] <fragment137> Cool, thanks
[18:25] <elichai2> what the DISPLAY var means?
[18:25] <elichai2> DISPLAY=:0.0 unity --replace
[18:26] <subsume> hey there. i installed nginx via apt and its running fine but when i do both 'sudo service nginx' and /etc/inti.d/nginx status it says its not running
[18:26] <bubbasaures> itisit, You don't understand my statement?
[18:26] <nithin> hi my memory card has been corrupted and it is not showing
[18:26] <subsume> the only way i have right now to reload my config is to kill the master process
[18:26] <nithin> can any pls help
[18:27] <bekks> nithin: What do you mean by "memory card"?
[18:27] <seanh> Anyone aware of any problems with coffeescript installed from npm on Ubuntu 14.04? It doesn't seem to be working for me, baffled
[18:27] <nithin> small memory cards used in mobiles
[18:27] <bubbasaures> itisit, we need exact info generally, or at least a hint, especially in this issue
[18:27] <trism> subsume: how about: initctl --system status nginx
[18:27] <bekks> nithin: Micro SD card?
[18:27] <nithin> ya exactly
[18:28] <subsume> initctl: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[18:28] <trism> subsume: what version of ubuntu is this?
[18:28] <julian-delphiki> subsume: are you running these commands with sudo, or root?
[18:28] <subsume> sudo, yep
[18:28] <subsume> nginx version: nginx/1.4.6 (Ubuntu)
[18:28] <nithin> bekks: can you please help
[18:29] <julian-delphiki> subsume: which ubuntu version, not nginx version :)
[18:29] <julian-delphiki> nithin: that's not really an ubuntu support question.
[18:29] <bekks> nithin: So what did you do exactly, what happens, what do you expect to happen - and which Ubuntu release are you on?
[18:29] <subsume> 14.04
[18:29] <nithin> ya i know but i want some option to recover that files
[18:29] <bekks> nithin: So you dont even run Ubuntu at all?
[18:30] <itisit> bubbasaures: i should explain this more clearly. For example,  I wan to remove one package python-boto in ubuntu, then I got: apt-get remove python-boto
[18:30] <itisit> Reading package lists... Done
[18:30] <itisit> Building dependency tree
[18:30] <itisit> Reading state information... Done
[18:30] <itisit> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[18:30] <itisit>   cloud-init cloud-utils euca2ools python-boto
[18:30] <nithin> ya im using ubuntu 14.10
[18:30] <unopaste> itisit you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:30] <bekks> nithin: And the other three questions? :)
[18:31] <bubbasaures> itisit, Cool, you want to always pastbin any more than two lines is all, that is closer for the channel to look at.
[18:31] <lv_> !ubuntu
[18:31] <nithin> bekks: suddenly Micro sd card got unmounted and when i used to mount through a card reader it is not working
[18:31] <lv_> !ubuntu openssl
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> lv_  better use /msg ubottu
[18:32] <bubbasaures> itisit, The general rhetoric is don't do this sort if you can't fix it yourself is all.
[18:32] <bekks> nithin: Define "it is not working". What are you trying (which commands exactly) and what happens (complete output in a pastebin)?
[18:32] <lv_> looking for the openssl security updates?!
[18:32] <lv_> anyone have a clue
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> !ssl
[18:32] <lv_> !ssl
[18:32] <lv_> :D
[18:33] <Pici> lv_: Was there something recent that you're epxecting to see?
[18:33] <vbgunz> does anyone know why when I use byobu locally to connect over ssh to another machine that launches byobu automatically open login, the remote byobu doesn't launch automatically? I got to call it manually?
[18:33] <nithin> bekks: actually i dont know what happend, its not accesseble and i lost all datas
[18:33] <bekks> !info openssl | lv_
[18:33] <subsume> trism: julian-delphiki 14.04
[18:33] <bekks> nithin: So which commands are you using and whats their output?
[18:33] <julian-delphiki> lv_: If there is a specific CVE you're looking for you can put it in here: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/ and it will tell you what the fixed package #s are
[18:35] <nithin> bekks: i tried a command testdisk to recover, but actually the micro sd is not showing as a seperate memory area
[18:35] <bekks> nithin: How did you try to mount it again and what was the entire output you got?
[18:36] <nithin> i used a card reader to mount the micro sd card but there is no response
[18:36] <Fire_Cat> 请问怎么进入UBUNTU 中文?
[18:37] <itisit> bubbasaures: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9719889/ if anyone can help, I would appreciate it.
[18:37] <Fire_Cat> joined #ubuntu-ch
[18:37] <bubbasaures> itisit, Are you trying to remove the amazon link in unity?
[18:37] <Fire_Cat> joined
[18:38] <bubbasaures> Fire_Cat,  /join #channel
[18:38] <nithin> bekks: hello you there?
[18:38] <itisit> bubbasaures: this is just an example.
[18:39] <bubbasaures> itisit, Cool, looked at it's use and saw amazon is all.
[18:40] <bubbasaures> itisit, My guess is a bloat clean, if this is the issue a net install will allow you to install what you want.
[18:40] <lv_> julian-delphiki: thanks!
[18:42] <trism> subsume: it looks like the nginx init.d script just checks whatever the pid file in /etc/nginx/nginx.conf is (default seems to be /run/nginx.pid) so you might check that file and see if the pid matches
[18:42] <itisit> bubbasaures: I don't get what you said. I want to uninstall package A, package B, C, D depend on it already installed. Now how to just simply uninstall A without removing B, C, D? thanks
[18:42] <subsume> trism: yeah they match fine and its running
[18:43] <trism> subsume: what output to do get from /etc/init.d/nginx status; ?
[18:43] <subsume> "nginx is not running"
[18:43] <bubbasaures> itisit, no prob, I will have to default to don't do that in the end myself, best of luck. ;)
[18:43] <itisit> bubbasaures: now I got it:-)
[18:44] <trism> subsume: not sure then, very weird
[18:44] <subsume> yeah
[18:44] <NinjaCowboy> Is there any Linux program that can view OneNote files?
[18:49] <bubbasaures> NinjaCowboy, any linux would be ##linux
[18:50] <NinjaCowboy> Ubuntu is the distro that I use, so I figured it would be appropriate here.
[18:51] <thanius> Is udev broken in ubuntu?
[18:52] <thanius> Because whatever I do I can't seem to make it work with my script.
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> NinjaCowboy: there are official microsoft web apps, also for onenote
[18:52] <thanius> It should be dead simple, but it doesn't budge
[18:52] <bubbasaures> NinjaCowboy, Than ask in a way that shows that.
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> NinjaCowboy: interesting stuff here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19230/microsoft-onenote-alternative
[18:53] <bubbasaures> NinjaCowboy, Like the last user I looked on the net, but was not sure really what was going on.
[18:59] <wjtaylor> Is single user mode only available from the physical keyboard or can it be used via terminal connection?
[18:59] <lawr> wjtaylor: physical keyboard
[19:01] <wjtaylor> lawr: Is that what people are referring to when using the term console?
[19:01] <wjtaylor> Confused between terminal and console
[19:01] <lawr> wjtaylor: a console is a terminal
[19:01] <lawr> console = terminal = command line = CLI
[19:01] <lawr> = shell
[19:01] <lawr> etc.
[19:02] <wjtaylor> some systems make a difference between console and terminal. Console seems to be a special case.
[19:03] <lawr> wjtaylor: it is still all the same thing
[19:04] <lawr> don't get confused
[19:04] <wjtaylor> ok
[19:06] <dsnyders> wjtaylor: differentiating them properly involves a bit of history. As lawr says, they all do the same thing.
[19:13] <wjtaylor> ok. Thanks
[19:24] <sergi_> hola
[19:24] <sergi_> Que tal
[19:24] <sergi_> profe
[19:24] <sergi_> :D
[19:24] <Pici> !es | sergi_
[19:25] <sergi_> s
[19:25] <sergi_> hello
[19:45] <b10s_> hi2all
[19:45] <jsw__> Hey! Hoping someone can help me with a wierd apt issue. I'm trying to apt-get update on a fresh EC2 Ubuntu 12.04 VM, but I get a NO_PUBKEY 0EC7E508BE09C571 error. I try adding that key, but it's already added (result is unchanged: 1). Anyone know what's wrong?
[19:45] <b10s_> are there way to install php 5.3.last on ubuntu? what is easiest way exclude compile?
[19:47] <kokut> Hello, i have a bunch of duplicate hidden "text" files in folders that contain text files, ending with ~ why is that?
[19:47] <Jordan_U> kokut: Your text editor is configured to make temporary files like that.
[19:48] <kokut> Jordan_U: gedit?
[19:48] <kokut> thats weird
[19:50] <kokut> Jordan_U: well im gonna see if i can configure it to stop bc i like seeing hidden files and every time i go into my "texts" folder all fires are duplicated
[19:54] <jsw__> Nm, my problem was I was using sudo gpg  instead of 'sudo apt-key adv'. Didn't know there was a difference.
[19:57] <CrtxReavr> How do I manually rebuild /etc/group- to encorporate changes to /etc/group?
[20:00] <hexdsl> hey dudes :)
[20:01] <trism> CrtxReavr: /etc/group- is just a backup of /etc/group
[20:02] <CrtxReavr> trism, okay, if I manaully add a user to a group, now do I get it to take effect then?
[20:02] <hexdsl> Ive been fighting with Virtual box all evening. Got it installed on headless 14.04 server. accessing it via Remmina. every time i install Guest additions on it it stops booting. google was no help so im seeking your wisdom :)
[20:03] <kx25> i
[20:04] <squinty> hexdsl:  #vbox and/or #ubuntu-server irc channels here on freenode.  vbox is the Virtualbox channel
[20:05] <hexdsl> squinty: thanks
[20:05] <trism> CrtxReavr: you need to log out/ back in when you add new groups to your user
[20:07] <CrtxReavr> trism, so I see. . . kooky.  BSD & Solaris are not like that.  /etc/groups is queried every time there's a group function.
[20:07] <CrtxReavr> Thaks.
[20:07] <CrtxReavr> Thanks even.
[20:08] <Pharaoh2> Which package include the /usr/bin/time binary?
[20:08] <chemist^> Hello everyone! I've just made a fresh install of Windoz 7 and Kubuntu 14.04 on a desktop computer. First I've installed windows and afterwards Kubuntu. Both OS are on the same disk, 2 different partitions. When i finished the installation of Kubuntu, it booted directly in Kubuntu, no GRUB appeared. I tried the "boot-repair GUI" and now GRUB does appear, but there is no option for booting into windows.
[20:08] <Pharaoh2> and what is the way to search for such information?
[20:08] <Jordan_U> Pharaoh2: dpkg -S /usr/bin/time
[20:08] <Pharaoh2> ahh thanks
[20:08] <Jordan_U> Pharaoh2: You're welcome.
[20:09] <theadmin> chemist^: Run "sudo update-grub"
[20:09] <chemist^> When I try to run "update-grub" it updates the list, but does not recognize where windows is installed. (still no option for booting into windows) .... fdisk -l shows the partition
[20:09] <theadmin> Oh.
[20:09] <chemist^> theadmin :)
[20:09] <squinty> Pharaoh2:  fwiw, the following is a good reference too  http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[20:10] <Jordan_U> chemist^: What is the output, if any, of "sudo os-prober"?
[20:10] <chemist^> i have /dev/sda1 - linux, then /dev/sda2 - HPFS/NTFS/exFAT and /dev/sda3 - swap
[20:10] <chemist^> Jordan_U no oudput
[20:10] <chemist^> output
[20:10] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | chemist^
[20:11] <chemist^> Jordan_U can this be of any help to you? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9720359/  .... it's from the boot-repair
[20:11] <Jordan_U> chemist^: Usually if os-prober doesn't find an installation of Windows, it's because that installation is missing files needed for Windows to boot. Usually these files are missing because Windows' "System Partition" was accidentally deleted.
[20:13] <chemist^> Jordan_U hmm...should i try using the windows dvd to repair it and then the kubuntu live cd for updating grub?
[20:13] <chemist^> Jordan_U before i installed kubuntu it booted into windows normally
[20:13] <stangeland> hi, i have copied my public key into .ssh/authorized_keys but still i am asked for password when i try to do ssh. Do i need to do something else as well?
[20:13] <chemist^> stangeland have you disabled the password in your sshd conf.?
[20:14] <stangeland> chemist^, hmmm no
[20:14] <stangeland> chemist^, where is that config?
[20:14] <stangeland> chemist^, /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[20:15] <chemist^> stangeland the configuration file of the ssh server
[20:16] <chemist^> i don't remember the exact path
[20:16] <stangeland> chemist^, ok and what do i change in there?
[20:16] <chemist^> there are few files there, it shouldn't be hard to find
[20:16] <fabio> Hi everyone! ive bought an asus PU301LA and after install ubuntu the trackpad goes like crazy when i touch it
[20:16] <chemist^> search for password and see if it's enabled
[20:16] <fabio> shows and hides windows etc
[20:16] <Mewtwo> salut
[20:16] <fabio> does anyone here could help me?
[20:16] <stangeland> chemist^, now its set as: #PasswordAuthentication yes
[20:16] <stangeland> chemist^, so its already disabled?
[20:16] <chemist^> then set it as no
[20:17] <chemist^> and delete the hashtag
[20:17] <chemist^> "uncomment" the line
[20:17] <stangeland> chemist^, ok, and restart ssh service?
[20:17] <chemist^> don't know
[20:17] <chemist^> try and see :D
[20:17] <chemist^> Jordan_U have you had a look at the link i gave you?
[20:18] <stangeland> chemist^, still its asking for owd
[20:18] <stangeland> pwd
[20:18] <Jordan_U> chemist^: Indeed, it looks like you accidentally deleted your Windows System Partition (It's a small partition near the beginning of the drive that contains the files Windows needs to load before switching to the NT kernel). I don't know how to restore that partition, ##windows can probably help you there.
[20:19] <fabio> Hi everyone! ive bought an asus PU301LA and after install ubuntu the trackpad goes like crazy when i touch it shows and hides windows etc.
[20:20] <chemist^> Bah... how could i have deleted it? .. when i was installing kubuntu, the partition manager did not show any other partition except the windows partition and unallocated space
[20:20] <stangeland> chemist^, can i somehow see loaded config?
[20:20] <chemist^> could it be that the kubuntu installer did not recognize it and showed it as unallocated space?
[20:22] <Pharaoh2> squinty: Thanks, that also let me see the changelog to check if the rss issue was fixed :)
[20:22] <Jordan_U> chemist^: That doesn't sound likely, while there is a bug unfortunately where a corrupted partition table will show up as a completely "unallocated" drive in the installer, that wouldn't cause only a single partition to not be shown.
[20:24] <chemist^> Jordan_U this is the first time this happens to me...i had installed double-boot windows/ubuntu many times..i only had problems with windows overwriting the mbr or grub (don't know how it's actually called) IF I installed ubuntu first....learned my lesson, doing the other way around since then
[20:25] <Jordan_U> chemist^: I don't know what to tell you :(
[20:25] <stangeland> hi, i have put PasswordAuthentication no in my sshd_config and added public key to authorized_keys, but i am still being asked for password when ssh'ing. what am i missing?
[20:26] <chemist^> Jordan_U :( thanks anyway
[20:26] <chemist^> stangeland have you restarted the service?
[20:26] <stangeland> chemist^, yeah
[20:26] <Seveas> stangeland: pastebin the output of ssh -vvv yourhost.goes.here
[20:26] <epinky> is there any term for refering to an administrator that only monitors systems?
[20:27] <Seveas> stangeland: and the output of 'grep ssh /var/log/auth.log'
[20:27] <stangeland> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9720574/
[20:28] <chemist^> Jordan_U I really....but really don't feel like installing windows all over again :D and then again repairing the grub from the ubuntu live cd....such a drag
[20:28] <Seveas> (the second one is to be run on the host you're sshing to)
[20:28] <BluesKaj_> chemist^, a hint, it's best to use manual partitioning when installing dual boot setups, that method assures access to the correct partitions
[20:28] <chemist^> BluesKaj_ i do use the manual partitioning
[20:28] <chemist^> for many years now
[20:29] <BluesKaj_> chemist^, set mountpoints etc ?
[20:29] <Seveas> stangeland: looks like id_rsa is corrupted/broken
[20:29] <chemist^> always create an ext4 with boot on / and a swap partition....along side the already-installed windows
[20:29] <Jordan_U> BluesKaj_: chemist^: I actually usually give the opposite advice, go with automatic and you're less likely to make human mistakes (the installer is pretty darn good at doing the right thing WRT partitioning).
[20:29] <stangeland> Seveas, hmmm ok...but i just created it using ssh-keygen -t rsa
[20:30] <chemist^> BluesKaj_ yes, i told Jordan_U before I use this method for years now, never had any issues
[20:30] <stangeland> Seveas, should i try and create a new?
[20:30] <Seveas> stangeland: ah, then it's probably simply encrypted. Yeah, it's asking for the passphrase to your *key*
[20:30] <Seveas> (didn't read all the way down yet)
[20:30] <Seveas> stangeland: add it to your ssh-agent with ssh-add
[20:30] <stangeland> Seveas, mmm ok - but why is it asking that? i just want to avoid writing any password
[20:31] <Seveas> if you're running Ubuntu desktop, adding it to your agent will make it store that passphrase in your keychain so it'll be decrypted when you log in
[20:31] <Seveas> so run ssh-add once now (and type your password once) and then never again :)
[20:32] <stangeland> Seveas, ssh-add .ssh/id_rsa     i get Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
[20:32] <Seveas> stangeland: then you're not running Ubuntu desktop.
[20:32] <BluesKaj_> Jordan_U, i prefer the manual method since i use both / and /home plus swap...I don't trust auto partitioning
[20:32] <stangeland> Seveas, mmm true i am on ubuntu with xfce. i dont like that unity stuff :(
[20:33] <Seveas> stangeland: and I don't know how xubuntu integrates this, I'm afraid.
[20:33] <stangeland> Seveas, hmmm damn :/
[20:33] <chemist^> Jordan_U i honestly think i will waste less time reinstalling windows and repairing grub with my live kubuntu cd, than trying to find a solution to fix the windoz boot partition
[20:33] <Seveas> stangeland: maybe try googling 'xubuntu ssh agent'
[20:34] <stangeland> Seveas, furthermore this is not my main user i am logged in with. i did sudo su compute before doing the ssh
[20:35] <Seveas> stangeland: ah, that definitely doesn't help. Try from a fresh terminal as your main user
[20:35] <stangeland> Seveas, hmmm ok - but the thing is i want this to be run as the compute user
[20:36] <stangeland> Seveas, what i want is the compute user to be able to ssh to compute@localhost without being prompted for any passwords
[20:36] <volkan> Hi, Is it possible to add "New Document" to popup menu in gnome shell?
[20:36] <Seveas> stangeland: let me guess, from a noninteractive process too?
[20:37] <BluesKaj_> chemist^, i didn't catch your issue exactly, could you explain again ?
[20:37] <stangeland> Seveas, mmm no thats not necessary
[20:37] <stangeland> Seveas, or what do you mean by that?
[20:37] <Seveas> stangeland: I mean that you may just want to store the key unencrypted (ssh-keygen -p ~/.ssh/id_rsa to decrypt, just don't enter a new passphrase)
[20:38] <stangeland> Seveas, aha ok, what does that do? does that store same private key in an unencrypted version?
[20:39] <Seveas> stangeland: yes.
[20:39] <Seveas> I'd also add a from=localhost to your authorized_keys entry in this case to limit the attack surface you open with this.
[20:41] <stangeland> Seveas, ack: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
[20:42] <Fun> hi
[20:42] <Fun> what is analog of lubricant in linux?
[20:42] <Fun> *an analog
[20:43] <stangeland> Seveas, ahhh sry my bad...wrong err msg
[20:43] <stangeland> Seveas, it was: ssh-keygen -p .ssh/id_rsa  Too many arguments.
[20:43] <snwr34p3r> i have 3 screens cant get the 3rd to work, 1 vga to mb 1 dvi to mb 1 vga to pcie both gpus are ati any 2 screens work in whatever order just not 3 any help fixing this ?
[20:43] <Seveas> stangeland: my fault. ssh-keygen -p -f ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[20:44] <Seveas> snwr34p3r: does xrandr show all three?
[20:45] <snwr34p3r> yes and the display in sys settings shows all 3 but only 2 turn on if i turn 1 off the other turns on
[20:45] <stangeland> Seveas, ah nice - thanks :) where do i add that from=localhost in the auth_keys? Just in the end after the guests hostname?
[20:46] <Seveas> snwr34p3r: how do you turn them on/off?
[20:46] <ses1984> hi-- i need to connect to the console of my switch...in windows i would use hyperterminal, connected to COM1...how can i do this with the terminal emulators in ubuntu
[20:46] <snwr34p3r> i open system settings goto display and the 3 screens show i click one thats working and tick it off and the 1 that wouldnt turn on will come alive
[20:46] <Seveas> stangeland: your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys entry should look like this: from=localhost ssh-rsa AAAAB3N......
[20:47] <stangeland> Seveas, hmm when i put that i get permission denied
[20:47] <Seveas> snwr34p3r: try some xrandr commands (I'm afraid I have to refer you to the manpage for details, it's been a while since I had to mess with this)
[20:48] <Seveas> stangeland: that's at least a step further. Pastebin the output of grep ssh /var/log/auth.log and ssh -vvv localhost
[20:48] <squinty> ses1984:  apt-cache show minicom   (in a terminal)
[20:49] <dannymichel> A friend of mine is having issues with his Toshiba laptop and the screen flickering at the very top of the screen, No matter what drivers he installs or desktop environment he uses. He uninstalled Unity and tried a number of DEs
[20:49] <stangeland> Seveas, in the auth.log it says Bad options in /home/compute/.ssh/authorized_keys file, line 1: from=localhost ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAA
[20:49] <ses1984> thanks
[20:49] <Seveas> stangeland: intriguing. One sec.
[20:50] <eggbeater> danny, is there anything wrong with the hardware, or do you know that it's a software issue?
[20:50] <Prezident> Hello guys.
[20:50] <Prezident> Fnally i toke my time for upgrade my ubuntu 12.04 to the latest LTS version
[20:50] <Seveas> stangeland: looks like it needs to be from="localhost" and not from=localhost
[20:51] <Prezident> And now i getting this command from terminal once and then.
[20:51] <dannymichel> It's fine for him on Windows and OS X eggbeater
[20:51] <Prezident> no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[20:51] <Prezident> what this means?
[20:51] <Seveas> !pm | snwr34p3r
[20:51] <eggbeater> ok
[20:51] <dannymichel> only gets the flickering on Ubuntu and Mint eggbeater
[20:51] <stangeland> Seveas, ah hehe ok you are right...who would have known
[20:52] <Seveas> stangeland: the manpage :-)
[20:52] <Seveas> (though to be fair, it's in the ssh_config manpage, the last of the ssh related ones I looked at)
[20:52] <stangeland> Seveas, touche
[20:52] <Seveas> Prezident: what command are you running when you get this?
[20:54] <Prezident> I getting that message whe i do unzip or unrar mostly
[20:54] <Prezident> never happened on 12.04
[20:55] <Jordan_U> Prezident: Please pastebin the exact command you're running, and its complete output.
[20:56] <squinty> Prezident:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/477002/loadparm-c4864-leaking-memory   had the same problem here
[20:56] <Prezident> I see, so its samba.
[20:57] <sjMikem> anyone else having problems connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com when doing apt-get?
[20:57] <Prezident> Alright, pam-update seems worked!
[20:57] <Prezident> Thank you ALOT squinty
[20:57] <squinty> Prezident:  yw. :)
[20:58] <snwr34p3r> gonna rip this screen off and throw it out the damn window
[20:58] <bubbasaures> sjMikem, Run the apt-gets and pastebin all of it.
[20:59] <stangeland> Seveas, this is awesome :D my small local minicluster is working now hehehehe
[20:59] <snwr34p3r> 4 days of nothing im so done with it
[20:59] <Seveas> stangeland: enjoy!
[20:59] <stangeland> Seveas, thanks :)
[20:59] <Seveas> snwr34p3r: rants to /dev/null please, they're not very useful.
[20:59] <sjMikem> bubbasaures: http://pastebin.com/g84b9phg
[21:00] <bubbasaures> sjMikem, So what am I looking for?
[21:01] <bubbasaures> the O connect?
[21:01] <bubbasaures> 0
[21:01] <sjMikem> yeah it just hangs there
[21:01] <snwr34p3r> there has to be a way to make this damn thing work nothing seems to so far
[21:01] <Seveas> sjMikem: is your ipv6 connectivity perhaps broken? Can you ping6 the host?
[21:02] <bubbasaures> sjMikem, thanks, someone will get yah going. ;)
[21:02] <sjMikem> Seveas: ping6 just hangs too... let me try disabling ipv6
[21:02] <Seveas> sjMikem: before you do that, can you ping or mtr -4 the host?
[21:03] <sjMikem> seveas: regular ping works fine
[21:03] <sjMikem> what's best way to temporarily disable ipv6?
[21:04] <Seveas> sudo ip a d your::ipv6::address dev eth0
[21:04] <squinty> sjMikem:  network manager -> ipv6 tab
[21:11] <bynarie> whats the latest kernel supported in 14.10?
[21:12] <bubbasaures> bynarie, 3.16
[21:12] <Seveas> bynarie: 3.16.0.23.24
[21:12] <Seveas> actually, 3.16.0.28.29
[21:12] <bynarie> thank you
[21:13] <eggbeater> isn't that also the latest one?
[21:13] <bubbasaures> in  a supported release yes
[21:15] <sjMikem> seveas, squinty, bubbasaures: disabling ipv6 worked.  Thanks!
[21:15] <bubbasaures> cool
[21:15] <Seveas> eggbeater: the latest upstream release is 3.18 (and 3.19 reached rc4 already)
[21:16] <Seveas> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/refs/tags
[21:16] <estevemourad> #Opnewblood.fr
[21:24] <dannymichel> A friend of mine is having issues with his Toshiba laptop and the screen flickering at the very top of the screen, No matter what drivers he installs or desktop environment he uses. He uninstalled Unity and tried a number of DEs
[21:24] <theadmin> dannymichel: Ya sure it's not hardware?
[21:24] <bubbasaures> dannymichel, You on their computer?
[21:25]  * theadmin had issues with brightness being lower in a certain part of the screen
[21:25] <theadmin> So could be hardware related
[21:25] <dannymichel> I'm not on his computer, and i know its stupid of me to be in here getting help for his laptop when i don't have access to it, but i do know its fine on windows and os x theadmin bubbasaures
[21:25] <eggbeater> dannymichel: what kind of Toshiba laptop is it?
[21:25] <bubbasaures> removing unity is  not the best move either
[21:26] <bubbasaures> dannymichel, we can help best is all if you have direct access.
[21:27] <dannymichel> toshiba s75 a7334
[21:27] <dannymichel> i hear you bubbasaures
[21:28] <eggbeater> ok, mine is a tecra a8 dannymichel
[21:28] <bubbasaures> dannymichel, I would have them use a live and test the guest as a start to compare.
[21:28] <bubbasaures> guest on the install of course
[21:31] <dannymichel> makes sense Buntunub
[21:31] <dannymichel> bubbasaures
[21:34] <bubbasaures> might have to adopt that mistake, it's funny
[21:40] <designbybeck_> Anyone use LastPass and YubiKey NEO on Ubuntu?
[21:46] <designbybeck_> was debating on getting one
[21:46] <bekks> designbybeck_: For what?
[21:47] <designbybeck_> password management bekks
[21:47] <bekks> designbybeck_: Thats what Lastpass is for - not what a Yubikey is for.
[21:47] <Pinkamena_D> I am developing some experimental google glass apps for a childrens hospital. The .apk packaged must be installed manually and in the past I have had to walk someone through doing it on windows (quite a pain). MY boss and I would like to set up an ubuntu computer at the hospital which can be SSH'd into and update each google glass.
[21:48] <compdoc> you have a YubiKey?
[21:48] <designbybeck_> it is for a one time password and other 2nd layers of authentication  bekks
[21:48] <bekks> compdoc: Yes.
[21:48] <Pinkamena_D> networking wise, does anyone have an idea for accessing it which I could discuss with their IT?
[21:48] <designbybeck_> was thinking about ordering the new one with NFC... it's $50 though
[21:48] <bekks> designbybeck_: I do know what a yubikey is for - but it doesnt handle the actually management of password, at all.
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Do you already know how to push the apk from Ubuntu to the glass?
[21:48] <Pinkamena_D> yes
[21:49] <designbybeck_> right, sorry I didn't mean it was handling it, just aiding in it
[21:49] <ahrenstein> Can anyone recommend a really good Ultrabook that is extremely compatible with Ubuntu 14.04? Ideally a touch screen or something similar to the ASUS UX301LA but without the rebooting thermal issues :P
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: And it involves someone physically connecting the glass to the Ubuntu machine?
[21:49] <Pinkamena_D> Their timescale is off of us by hours
[21:50] <Pinkamena_D> under usual circumstances they would plug in all of the glasses and I would install it 'overnight'
[21:50] <bubbasaures> ahrenstein, THe hardware is your issue not the ultrabook check hardware
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Why involve yourself at all? Why not just write a script to do it?
[21:50] <bekks> designbybeck_: It will not aid in the management at all, it makes things more complicated, actually. The only use case I can think of using lastpass AND a yubikey is storing the private passphrase part in lastpass and the using that and the yubikey generated passcode for decrypting/login/etc.
[21:51] <Pinkamena_D> I currently have no server / connection in that building at all
[21:51] <bekks> Pinkamena_D: So you need a connection to that computer, first.
[21:51] <compdoc> bekks, do you store passwords on it?
[21:51] <designbybeck_> no compdoc it helps generate a one time password
[21:51] <Pinkamena_D> I guess this is more of a network question, sorry for asking here
[21:51] <bekks> compdoc: No. That would be - suboptimal.
[21:51] <ahrenstein> bubbasaures what do you mean? I read a few threads in Ubuntu forums and a review on the device as a linux laptop. All say it has some issue when in Linux that causes reboots that Windows doesn't have. Ideally I'm just looking for a good recommendation. System76 didn't seem that impressive.
[21:52] <Pinkamena_D> but yes, thats the idea
[21:52] <ahoneybun> does anyone still have a hp elitebook 2730p?
[21:52] <compdoc> yeah, I know it generates, but they mention encription also. so youre saying you cant store encripted docs on it
[21:52] <bubbasaures> ahrenstein, You need to just make sure the hardware in your choice is friendly, we don't advise on purchases is all.
[21:52] <ahoneybun> ahrenstein, there is thinkpenguin
[21:52] <ahrenstein> bubbasaures Ok.
[21:53] <ahrenstein> ahoneybun thanks. I shall check it out.
[21:53] <bubbasaures> not more than a few comments anyway
[21:53] <bekks> compdoc: No, I never said I cant. There are Yubikey versions which act as USB mass storages devices also. But storing your private pass phrase parts on it along with the generator device - thats like handing everyone a note with your entire password.
[21:53] <ahoneybun> ahrenstein, they have a really nice thin small notebook (I had it in my hands at a FOSSETCON)
[21:54] <ahrenstein> ahoneybun I'm browsing now.
[21:54] <ahoneybun> k
[21:56] <morsedl3> How do I change the icon associated with a file type in Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:57] <morsedl3> I have tried everything: Adding icon files to /usr/share/icons, inspecting the mime types (in /etc/mimetypes, in /usr/share/mime, etc.).
[21:57] <morsedl3> No matter what I do, the icon is always white / blank.
[21:58] <morsedl3> I had ReText installed for markdown and the icons were correct.  I tried Remarkable, another MD editor, but liked it less and uninstalled.
[21:59] <morsedl3> Ever since then, every MD document now has a blank / white icon (but ReText does work and is correctly associated, just not the icon).
[21:59] <morsedl3> I've even tried associogate, but that did not help.
[22:00] <morsedl3> If someone could just explain to me how HOW Ubuntu goes about finding an icon file, I could probably fix this.  But the whole MIME / icon thing in Ubuntu 12.04 seems a mess.
[22:00] <choked> morsedl3: You want the icon
[22:01] <morsedl3> This is for a master image for deployment, so I need to get these icons right for users.
[22:01] <morsedl3> choked: I want ANY icon at this point. :) If I can get that, I'm sure I can adjust as needed.
[22:03] <morsedl3> (back in moment, have to logoff and back on)
[22:03] <choked> morsedl3: try installing a different icon theme.
[22:04] <morsedl3> choked: thanks.  kind of tried that: logged in as newly-created user with default theme.  no joy there, either.
[22:04] <morsedl3> choked: always white / blank.
[22:04] <morsedl3> choked: have purged app (retext), reinstalled, does not help either.
[22:04] <choked> morsedl3: unity --reset-icons
[22:05] <epinky> !icons
[22:05] <morsedl3> choked: just did. no joy.
[22:06] <morsedl3> choked: (back in a moment, have to logoff)
[22:08] <epinky> this icon thing is always changing, well I suppose it's the natural GNOME evolution
[22:08] <FrankD> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 on a ProLiant G5 DL580 with an HP P400 using the cciss driver -- Ubuntu does not seem to recognize any of the drives (though they are there under /dev/cciss/c0d0 etc)
[22:08] <FrankD> any tips?
[22:10] <morsedl3> choked: well, now the icon is correct when I view it in Nautilus, and when I right-click on it and select Properties.  However, it's still white / blank when shown on the Desktop.
[22:11] <choked> morsedl3: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[22:12] <choked> morsedl3: then setsid unity
[22:12] <choked> morsedl3: or delete the icon and make a new one.
[22:15] <choked> morsedl3: what desktop are you using
[22:15] <morsedl3> choked: K, I just ran both.  No joy, same deal: blank on Desktop, correct in "Properties" and within Nautilus.  Created a new "test.md" file on the Desktop using various methods, i.e., touch, gvim, gedit, and retext: No change, same problem with new / different file.
[22:15] <choked> You have to logout morsedl3
[22:16] <morsedl3> choked: K, I suspected. Will try now, so back in a moment...
[22:17] <joehillen> anyone know what's going on with security.ubuntu.com?
[22:17] <fedora_newb> When running a command that asks for like a username and password, is there a way to adding that info to that command so it gets entered when ran?
[22:18] <Jordan_U> fedora_newb: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:19] <fedora_newb> Jordan_U not sure exactly
[22:19] <fedora_newb> This is more of a server question and not sure what they are running
[22:20] <Jordan_U> fedora_newb: What is the output of "lsb_release -r"?
[22:20] <Maltahl> I have some problems when im on a skype call on Ubuntu 14.04 since it uses Pulseaudio. When i turn up the music abit too much people in the call can heard the music like it they were listening to it via my own headset. Any help ?
[22:21] <morsedl3> choked: logging off and back on: no joy.  rebooting: no joy.
[22:21] <fedora_newb> Jordan_U, didn't even run it :/
[22:22] <fedora_newb> Just allows you to enter commands but its setupkinda like linux, so trying to figure out how one would pass the commands usually
[22:22] <choked> morsedl3: what desktop environment are you using. Unity?
[22:22] <morsedl3> choked: yes.
[22:22] <Jordan_U> fedora_newb: I don't understand what that means.
[22:23] <choked> morsedl3: so these are in the launcher bar not desktop.
[22:23] <k1l> fedora_newb: this is the ubuntu support. what system is that at all?
[22:23] <morsedl3> choked: no. *.md files visible on the Unity Desktop.
[22:24] <Jordan_U> fedora_newb: There is no generic solution, it depends on what specific commands you're trying to run, for what distro, and what version (as these things change which actions involve or don't involve policykit/selinux/apparmor etc.) .
[22:25] <morsedl3> choked: If I could just 'strace' the appropriate process, I suspect I could figure out what's off.  However, I have no idea what process handles the presentation of the desktop itself.  Compiz perhaps?
[22:25] <fedora_newb> Its built off sort of a linux platform just not of details. Anyways, on ubuntu, lets say 14.04, if I were to run any sort of command that would next ask for email and password, how could I add that info and pretty much replicate an enter key?
[22:25] <fedora_newb> If that makes sense.
[22:25] <jhutchins> fedora_newb: There are multiple conventions for doing that, it very much depends on the application being run.
[22:26] <Jordan_U> fedora_newb: If it's not Ubuntu, then you should join ##linux for generic linux support.
[22:26] <fedora_newb> kk
[22:26] <Maltahl> I have some problems when im on a skype call on Ubuntu 14.04 since it uses Pulseaudio. When i turn up the music abit too much people in the call can heard the music like it they were listening to it via my own headset. Any help ?
[22:26] <jhutchins> fedora_newb: <user>@<host> is pretty standard, but passwords vary a lot.
[22:26] <choked> morsedl3: these are documents or applications or both missing icon
[22:26] <NikolaiToryzin> Maltahl: Skype is horribly broken on Linux
[22:26] <k1l> fedora_newb: that really depends heavily on the service that is running. there is no generic answer to that. best is to see the support/community of the thing you are running thre
[22:27] <k1l> *there
[22:27] <morsedl3> choked: just plain text, standard markdown files.
[22:27] <jhutchins> Maltahl: Skype doesn't use pulseaudio.
[22:27] <Maltahl> jhutchins it does on my system tho...
[22:28] <jhutchins> Maltahl: Not really, it bypasses it.  Skype is also developed by Microsoft, so you pretty much have to use their support channels.
[22:28] <Maltahl> jhutchins it says in the settings that its controlled by pulseaudio
[22:29] <NikolaiToryzin> jhutchins: Microsoft won't support Skype on Linux for shit so he's screwed
[22:29] <morsedl3> choked: my problem does not concern launchers, whether in a panel or on the desktop.  For example, if I drag the ReText app to the Unity Desktop to make a shortcut, its icon is correct.  It's just the display of actual .md files stored the Desktop itself have white / blank icons.
[22:29] <choked> morsedl3: it shows in natilus. Right click select copy. Then paste on desktop
[22:30] <matteo> salve
[22:31] <morsedl3> choked: doing so created a "test (copy).md" file on the Desktop, also blank.
[22:31] <choked> Drop the icon in gedit
[22:32] <choked> Drop the icon in gedit morsedl3
[22:34] <morsedl3> choked: ? I don't understand what you mean.
[22:35] <choked> morsedl3: an icon is a text file. Drop an icon on a gedit window.
[22:35] <morsedl3> choked: K. that opens my test.md file in gedit, as expected.
[22:36] <morsedl3> choked: the icon next to the filename in gedit is correct
[22:37] <morsedl3> choked: but the desktop file is still white, even after making a simple edit and re-saving w/in gedit.
[22:39] <morsedl3> choked: I can even change the icon to some random png file w/in Nautulis and on the Unity Desktop, and it changes to what I set.  But when I select "Revert" (under Properties), it goes back to blank/white on Desktop (but everywhere else is correct).
[22:40] <choked> morsedl3: right click icon select properties. Uncheck executable. The drop it on credit again
[22:40] <choked> morsedl3: right click icon select properties. Uncheck executable. The drop it on gedit again
[22:41] <morsedl3> choked: it was never set to executable.  file mode has always been 600 (rw-----)
[22:41] <morsedl3> choked: again, just to be clear, it's not a launcher.
[22:46] <tonygaga> hey guys i can't start X from my usb, before it worked.. i installed it on the HDD now i want to boot from the usb again and there's a black screen...any idea why?
[22:46] <sage__> I am building a large datacenter using ubuntu snappy images, and I need a service that can manage docker containers (even better would be containers of different types), does ubuntu snappy work well with a particular service?
[22:46] <ikonia> sage__: is it wise to build a data center based on a technology that is not yet proven ?
[22:46] <tonygaga> startx gives me setversion 1.4 permission denied
[22:46] <ikonia> tonygaga: why are you running startx ?
[22:46] <bubbasaures> tonygaga, You sure you got grub in the right place and not on the usb?
[22:47] <arun> anyone here ever used puppet?
[22:47] <ikonia> arun: yes
[22:47] <sage__> ikonia: This is testing its future use
[22:47] <Seveas> arun: on a daily basis with thousands of servers :)
[22:47] <tonygaga> ikonia: because it was black and then i tried starting it from the shell
[22:47] <ikonia> sage__: so why would you deploy a large data center as a "test" ?
[22:48] <tonygaga> bubbasaures: yea... because it booted with grub without usb
[22:48] <arun> which guide is good ? http://www.unixmen.com/install-puppet-master-and-client-in-ubuntu/ or https://www.howtoforge.com/puppet-ubuntu-14.04 ??
[22:48] <ikonia> neither
[22:48] <ikonia> I would trust official puppet documention
[22:48] <sage__> ikonia: Well it's going on a test center first
[22:48] <arun> ikonia: for a sample test running?
[22:48] <ikonia> arun: yes
[22:48] <Seveas> the howtoforge one starts with editing /etc/hosts, it sucks
[22:48] <ikonia> arun: a test or a production run, why would you not use official documentation
[22:49] <arun> ikonia: i mean among these two..
[22:49] <ikonia> sage__: howtoforge = suck
[22:49] <bubbasaures> tonygaga, thanks, I see hits on the web, bit just not familiar with that error.
[22:49] <ikonia> arun: I would'nt use either
[22:49] <ikonia> arun: why limit it to those two when the official docs are great
[22:49] <Seveas> oh, and using 3rd party repos, nope, howtoforge is out.
[22:50] <tonygaga> bubbasaures: okay...well anything helps guys it's actually xubuntu
[22:50] <tonygaga> whatever im just gonna redo the startmedia usb
[22:50] <Seveas> the unixmen one only covers the install, it's not horrible (but still wants to mess with /etc/hosts)
[22:51] <Seveas> I'll echo ikonia: follow official docs. Except that those probably want you to install their packages. Ignore that and just apt-get install from the Ubuntu repos
[22:54] <arun> Seveas: is the Define  the  Server  in the  Puppet  Client  : section fine in unixmen? and what changes can we do for /etc/hosts stuffs u told ?
[22:56] <arun> Seveas: I mean puppetd.conf stuff, is it puppet.conf or puppetd.conf?
[22:57] <arun> hello Seveas u there?
[23:00] <arun> ikonia: u therE?
[23:00] <ikonia> yes ?
[23:00] <arun> ikonia:  is the Define  the  Server  in the  Puppet  Client  : section fine in unixmen? and what changes can we do for /etc/hosts stuffs u told ?
[23:00] <ikonia> arun: you where told not to use that guide
[23:01] <ikonia> if you want to use that guide and need help - ask the person who wrote the guide
[23:01] <arun> ikonia: yes, but the official is too long.. I wanted to get some short, just for installation...
[23:01] <ikonia> then you deal with it
[23:01] <ikonia> the official one is not long
[23:01] <ikonia> and if you can't be bothered to read it - you'll make a mess and not understand what you are doing
[23:02] <ikonia> as you are doing now
[23:02] <gry> arun: tell what you are trying to do please, and how you're trying to do it.
[23:02] <Seveas> arun: if you're not willing to read documentation, you shouldn't be paid to administer servers.
[23:02] <gry> arun: I'm sure this way you would get pointers from the people here.
[23:02] <Seveas> gry: he did, but wants to be spoonfed instead of making some effort.
[23:02] <ikonia> he wants to follow a bad guide
[23:02] <ikonia> has been advised not to
[23:03] <arun> Seveas: I am not paid for administering servers.. I wanted to know..
[23:03] <ikonia> is trying to do so still
[23:03] <ikonia> and doesn't understand what to do with the bad guide
[23:03] <gry> arun: there is #puppet where people may be able to help you in more detail if this channel considers spoon feeding not worth the effort.
[23:03] <gry> arun: ASK! I gave you 2 questions.
[23:03] <arun> ASK!
[23:03] <ikonia> it's not about spoon feeding, it's following a bad guide
[23:04] <bubbasaures> gry, spoon feeding is enabling a continuance of it.
[23:04] <ikonia> and refusing to read the "good" guide because it's "too long"
[23:04] <gry> arun: I mean, click here >> #puppet << and tell them the detail.
[23:04] <gry> arun: people here apparently don't want to help you with it. Sorry.
[23:04] <ikonia> people do want to help with it
[23:04] <arun> gry: no, its fine..
[23:04] <ikonia> but not with a guide that will not work well
[23:04] <gry> ikonia: then you would ask him what he wants to do, and give some pointers.
[23:05] <arun> ikonia: I can understand you man :D thanks
[23:05] <ikonia> gry: I have done
[23:05] <ikonia> he doesn't want to do the "good" solution
[23:05] <gry> ikonia: you didn't - you suggested to RTFM without asking what he wants to do.
[23:05] <ikonia> and he's explained what he wants to do - hence getting the good guide
[23:05] <ikonia> gry: he wants to setup a puppet master - as he said at the start
[23:05] <ikonia> and offered two guides - both of which won't do
[23:05] <ikonia> he refuses to read the good guide
[23:05] <Seveas> gry: he wants an FM, but is to lazy to read a good one
[23:05] <gry> ok, if we know what he wants, then give pointers what the correct solution is.
[23:06] <ikonia> the correct solution is to follow hte official puppet setup guide
[23:06] <gry> and bash him with that instead of bashing with the manual. :)
[23:06] <ikonia> as he's been suggested
[23:06] <ikonia> no
[23:06] <ikonia> no one is bashing him
[23:06] <gry> ahh. "setup" issue. I see.
[23:06] <ikonia> stop making stuff up
[23:06] <ikonia> the official puppet guide is the right way to do it
[23:06] <ikonia> it's good advice, not bashing or telling RTFM
[23:07] <gry> the problem was I missed what he wants. that's alright.
[23:07] <ikonia> yeah, but you see fit to make stuff up like "bashing" - so perhaps don't
[23:07] <ikonia> I'm pretty keen to help people get a good system, rather than a broken one
[23:07] <ikonia> I'm not telling someone that guide is bad for fun
[23:07] <UbuN2> he wanted to cut corners ... simple .
[23:07] <morsedl3> well, "choked" has left the building, but for completeness: i fixed the desktop icon problem i was having: using the program "alacarte", i found that the icon association was pointing to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/retext.png.  Changing this to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/retext.svg seems to have finally fixed the problem.
[23:08] <arun> guys, please lets not fight eachother.. ikonia thanks for the advice ...
[23:08] <UbuN2> nobody i fighting jut expressing
[23:08] <gry> arun: i apologize, i missed your question earlier; good luck
[23:08] <UbuN2> is*
[23:09] <arun> UbuN2: sorry to say in that word, I am not native english... mistake happens
[23:09] <arun> gry: cool thanks
[23:09] <UbuN2> ;)
[23:10] <arun> what is CA masters ?
[23:10]  * UbuN2 crawls back into his shell
[23:10] <ikonia> certficiate master
[23:10] <Maltahl> Ubuntu 14.04 Skype grabs my music if its too loud and sends it to the people in talking to directly. M$ was being dicks when i went there for support so here i am begging for a solution
[23:10] <Seveas> arun: usually the same as the puppetmaster. The host where you run puppetca
[23:11] <bubbasaures> Maltahl, No swearing ans how would you silence the music picked up by you mic?
[23:11] <gry> Maltahl: tried headphones so that the music isn't heard by the mic?
[23:11] <bubbasaures> s/and/you're
[23:11] <Maltahl> Im using a headset ( sorry for the swearing before)
[23:11] <bubbasaures> Maltahl, that has a mic.
[23:11] <Maltahl> Yes and its Jack in and Jack Out
[23:12] <bubbasaures> is it music in the headphones
[23:12] <Maltahl> Its not coming from the headset to the mic. Its like its coming from the sound card to the input on skype
[23:12] <Maltahl> via Pulseaudio
[23:13] <Jordan_U> Maltahl: Is this more than just the sound from your headphones making its way to your microphone, physically?
[23:13] <Maltahl> Like desktop audio and Mic gets mixed up or fusioned when the desktop audio is louder than wispering
[23:13] <bubbasaures> Maltahl, Excellent now we know what you mean, not sure myself, I would try anther headset were it me to test.
[23:13] <Maltahl> I have tried with inear buds and the built in mic of my laptop
[23:14] <Maltahl> and they can still hear it crystal clear
[23:15] <Jordan_U> Maltahl: #pulseaudio might be helpful, though I'm still not sure it's a pulseaudio problem.
[23:15] <Maltahl> Is there a way i can troubleshoot it to the source ?
[23:16] <eggbeater> Maltahl: check skype's settings and make sure audio in/out is set up correctly
[23:16] <Maltahl> i cannot change the audio in and out
[23:17] <eggbeater> ok
[23:17] <Maltahl> they are all set to Pulseaudio server (Local)
[23:17] <sawsa> hello?
[23:17] <eggbeater> hello
[23:17] <sawsa> i was wondering what programming language i should learn first
[23:17] <sawsa> c++, java, python, etc.?
[23:17] <sawsa> i'm new to the field, btw :/
[23:18] <Maltahl> Java because it teaches you to structure your code well as a beginner
[23:18] <Seveas> sawsa: ask your programming teacher :)
[23:18] <Maltahl> Else i would learn C# first
[23:18] <Seveas> sawsa: when without teacher, I'd recommend python, especially using the O'Reilly 'Learning Python' book as a starter.
[23:19] <sawsa> can that book be read online anywhere as an e-book, Seveas?
[23:19]  * julian-delphiki would recommend ruby, sawsa 
[23:19] <Seveas> sawsa: I wouldn't be surprised if it could, but I used a physical copy myself :)
[23:20] <eggbeater> sawsa: imo I would do it like this: Java, Python, C++
[23:20] <Maltahl> Most newer books have codes for an ebook version
[23:20] <Seveas> sawsa: and as you can see other people have different preferences on what they'd do first. Of course my opinion is the best :-)
[23:20] <bubbasaures> +1
[23:20] <Seveas> (read: don't poll in here, inconsistency is what you'll get. At best :))
[23:20]  * eggbeater giggles
[23:21] <squinty> sawsa: if you join the #python irc channel here on freenode they have various url's for learning python
[23:23] <sawsa> which language should an aspiring cracker start out with?
[23:23] <squinty> sawsa: off topic
[23:24] <Seveas> sawsa: we don't support illegal activities in here.
[23:27] <xcyclist> Say, I'm having trouble with nload.  Does it have a known bug?
[23:27] <xcyclist> I'm seeing only the column of statistics Curr, Avg, Min, Max, Ttl, but not the character graphic.
[23:29] <tonygaga> ok so... following scenario : i want to migrate my dad's HDD to an SSD with dualboot. he has only the stock win7 on his hdd but there are 3 partitions. the main partition, the rescue and the hidden 100mb part. i dd'ed the main on the SSD and tried to boot without success which didn't surprise me, because the mbr is missing. so i thought i'd just install ubuntu and it would fix it. i choose 'install ubuntu with win7' and tried to boot . gru
[23:29] <morsedl3_> retraction: (just for the record): using alacarte did NOT fix the blank-default-desktop-icon problem after all (I forgot I had manually changed my test document's icon; upon pressing 'Revert', the problem re-appeared.
[23:29] <bubbasaures> morsedl3_, This stuff needs to have context, not just random.
[23:30] <xcyclist> Nevermind.  I just wasn't getting anything because I had no traffic.  Oh well.
[23:31] <blingz> yo
[23:31] <blingz> anybody around?
[23:31] <bubbasaures> !bootinfo | tonygaga run this on that computer and pot the url of the paste
[23:31] <squinty> no  just a couple of skinnies and squares
[23:31] <bubbasaures> put*
[23:31] <eggbeater> yaup
[23:33] <tonygaga> sry didn't say what my ACTUAL question is... is it EVEN possible to copy the main C partition from a bought laptop to another HDD and make it bootable again?
[23:33] <bubbasaures> tonygaga, THat hidden partition is part of the boot, do you have a recovery or install disc?
[23:33] <tonygaga> bubbasaures: yup
[23:34] <tonygaga> oh install
[23:34] <ikonia> tonygaga: the guys in ##windows can help you clone the C drive to a new disk and update the boot loader
[23:34] <Nakkel> Hi, I'm having a really weird problem connecting to a remote VNC. When I connect (tried with krdc/remmina/xtight...) all I get is my *local* screen which shouldnt be possible as no VNC server is running locally. Also the remote acknowledge the connection so I'm really not connectin to localhost. Halp?
[23:34] <bubbasaures> tonygaga, clone the whole shebang with clonezilla, resize the part you can to fit on the SSD, clonezilla saves the mbr.
[23:35] <bubbasaures> so you can fit
[23:35] <nobody___> hi can someone tell me how to Force Intel Video mode as boot parameter in grub men
[23:35] <tonygaga> but do i even need a boot load when i install ubuntu with grub?
[23:36] <tonygaga> i mean can't i just boot windows (only main part) with grub ?
[23:36] <bubbasaures> tonygaga, windows has to have the right files C alone may not have them, if you ran the script I asked we would know a lot more, y=this is a windows issue though, I'm on the channel.
[23:36] <ikonia> tonygaga: the windows bootloader loction needs updating
[23:36] <nobody___> how do i Force Intel Video mode as boot parameter in grub menu?
[23:37] <ikonia> force intel video mode ?
[23:37] <SynrGy> I'm assisting a friend who upgraded her macbook pro retina from trusty to utopic. it boots to the graphical login, but upon logging in takes us to a black screen, and then everything's unresponsive.
[23:38] <SynrGy> cant fn-ctrl-alt-f1 or get the system's attention in any way after this.
[23:38] <bubbasaures> SynrGy, No fn
[23:38] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Maybe -> i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 <- ; but, what is the issue for better advise.
[23:38] <nobody___> this is what im trying to do, but i dont unstand how to do it can you help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2191109
[23:38] <SynrGy> bubbasaures: on a macbook pro? yes. adding fn seems to work.
[23:39] <SynrGy> bubbasaures: just not after the login failure
[23:39] <tonygaga> ikonia: bubbasaures: ok i think i got it... fuken windows.. that's why i'm using linux for over 5y
[23:39] <SynrGy> bubbasaures: at the login screen, fn-ctrl-alt-f1 switches to virtual console 1
[23:39] <SynrGy> and fn-ctrl-alt-f7 back to the graphical login
[23:39] <chakka> Is anyone else having problems with UEFI boot after upgrading to vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic
[23:39] <chakka> ?
[23:39] <chakka> I cant boot
[23:39] <SynrGy> but after logging, in, black screen. and then can't switch virtual consoles anymore.
[23:39] <bubbasaures> SynrGy, maybe on a mac, never had one, it is ubuntu, that is all I know.
[23:39] <chakka> if I choose vmlinuz-3.13.0-43-generic from the boot list, I can boot
[23:39] <SynrGy> bubbasaures: mac keyboards are weird
[23:40] <bubbasaures> I suspect thaqt
[23:40] <bubbasaures> that*
[23:40] <chakka> weirdbeard
[23:40] <SynrGy> so none of this sounds familiar? this is not my first bbq, by the way :)
[23:40] <bubbasaures> SynrGy, gotta have some patience is all, this is free help.
[23:40] <SynrGy> plenty of experience with debian, just not quite as much with ubuntu or macs
[23:41] <SynrGy> naturally.
[23:42] <bubbasaures> chakka, What is your definition of "I can't boot" lots of scenarios, give us yours.
[23:42] <chakka> I get stuck at the initramfs
[23:42] <chakka> it looks like its loading vmlinuz and initramfs, then it hangs, and I get dropped to the grub prompt
[23:43] <bubbasaures> chakka, I would run a apt-get -f install to make sure everything got installed first thing.
[23:43] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Arbitrarily following 'general' commands found on the internet is not a good thing to do. What issue are you attempting to address ?
[23:43] <Bobbo> Hey, so I'm hoping someone could help me please. I've installed Ubuntu 14.04 over my old system (formatted /, kept /home from 12.04/14.04), but I've been having a problem after login; the system hangs with background and cursor, I can still access other terminals (via Ctrl+Alt+F#), but right click and keyboard shortcuts (such as Ctrl+Alt+T) don't do anything.
[23:43] <chakka> apt-get -f install doesnt show anything to do
[23:44] <nobody___> screen tearing when i play videos
[23:45] <bubbasaures> chakka, Where are you on the install to run it a TTY,
[23:45] <Maltahl> ¨found a solution... its the headset for some wierd reason
[23:45] <chakka> Ive been using the system for a while, it all works fine
[23:45] <Valduare> hey guys I got a touchscreen monitor given to me - has serial interface - plugged it in and compiled drivers for it elo single touch     then ran sudo screen /dev/ttyUSB0    and I see stuff output when I touch the screen!! woot     but its not moving the mouse lol
[23:45] <SynrGy> bubbasaures: what's thrown me here is if it were a graphics driver problem, i'd expect it to die at the login screen, not after when i login. and if it were a desktop problem i'd expect it to perhaps fail to login, but not go to a black screen and leave the system unresponsive. wracking my brains to try to form a plan to troubleshoot.
[23:45] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: A leftover " /etc/X11/xorg.conf " from a proprietary graphics driver ?
[23:46] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: so... `sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo reboot`?
[23:46] <bubbasaures> chakka, Not sure why that kernel would be doing this sounds like you know the text boot, others may have a better idea.
[23:46] <chakka> now that I did an "  aptitude purge linux-image-3.13.0-44-generic"  I dont see that update anymore. weird.
[23:46] <Valduare> log says failed to connect to Xdisplay
[23:46] <chakka> are you on the latest kernel for ubunutu? What version are you on?
[23:47] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Possible .. what are you running now for a graphics set and a releted driver ?
[23:47] <bubbasaures> 3.13.0-43 chakka
[23:47] <chakka> ok, so you havent seen a -44 upgrade ?
[23:47] <chakka> I wonder where that came from.
[23:47] <chakka> need to look at my apt sources
[23:47] <bubbasaures> chakka, I'm not using the main server are you?
[23:48] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9721650
[23:48] <SynrGy> hm. installing an ssh server so i can tail some logs up until it crashes
[23:49] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: Plan is to replace nouveau with the proprietary driver once I actually get it working. :3
[23:49] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Screen tearing .. OK, what graphics set do you have .. and related driver .. -> sudo lshw - C display | pastebinit <- . May have to install the 'pastebinit' tool .
[23:49] <SynrGy> ah. it's using nouveau ...
[23:49] <squinty> chakka:  there is a 44 available
[23:50] <bubbasaures> SynrGy, I would not follow err I say jokingly logic, gotta use scientific method is all, a graphic issue can be from grub on.
[23:50] <bubbasaures> your*
[23:51] <SynrGy> my expectations are only based on past experience, not logic
[23:51] <SynrGy> it does not follow from my past observations the future problems will be the same :)
[23:51] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: Just checked, I don't actually have an xorg configuration file (only xorg.conf.failsafe). Hurmm
[23:51] <SynrGy> i'm willing to bet nouveau *might* not be as solid on this platform as nvidia-current
[23:51] <bubbasaures> SynrGy, big failure I'm afraid is all, would you ask your doctor to work this way, or any one.
[23:52] <bubbasaures> any way NEXT
[23:52] <SynrGy> um? this isn't open heart surgery. it's just a computer. i'm following hunches
[23:52] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Presently now, I do not know. As you do have the open source driver loaded .. Have you looked to see what is in the control file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" if it even exists ?
[23:52] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: doesn't exist
[23:53] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Sorry did not catch your last in time ... Humm .. What results if you boot to recovery mode from grub's advanced boot options ? From there maybe we can install the proprietary driver ?
[23:54] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: you mean, drop to root shell prompt or failsafeX?
[23:54] <Jeroen1> Hi, I got a FTP on my ubuntu server but I don't get in using FileZilla. Now am I worried that I've got the wrong password / username. How could I find that out?
[23:55] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Yeah .. "enable networking" to provide r/w access to the partition .
[23:55] <nobody___> http://pastebin.com/AnK8Jkqe
[23:56] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Look'n at your http://pastebin.com/AnK8Jkqe .
[23:56] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: Then the big question, which driver? XD I tried the nvidia-current package earlier to no avail; but I've done another reinstall since then (so much messing around with packages, ugh).
[23:58] <nobody___> im a noob so i dont know what to do with this
[23:58] <chakka> just logged a bug