| knome | http://mirror.anl.gov/ | 00:27 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | oops. :) | 00:27 |
| knome | so, they are quitting | 00:27 |
| knome | that's the mirror we're linking to from our download page for US | 00:27 |
| Unit193 | Awwwh. | 00:44 |
| knome | good thing i've just gone through the official ubuntu cd mirrors list and know which mirrors share xubuntu | 00:45 |
| knome | so it should be almost a no-brainer | 00:45 |
| knome | if you're logged in: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/mirrors/ | 00:46 |
| pleia2 | knome: battling the flu, added to my list for when I'm more lucid :) | 04:57 |
| ochosi | humm, another fork, why not just contribute, i wonder... https://sites.google.com/site/chaletoslinux/home | 05:07 |
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| ochosi | ali1234: what's the status of your Orion branch btw? | 08:57 |
| ali1234 | it has squashed menus and selectors, other than that it is same as greybird | 08:57 |
| ochosi | okeydokey | 09:01 |
| ochosi | then just lemme know when you feel it's ready to get tested and i'll give it a shot | 09:02 |
| ali1234 | it's ready for testing now if you ignore the squashed things | 09:02 |
| ochosi | right, squashed things sounds like it needs to be sorted before it can get merged | 09:03 |
| ochosi | most of the menu code should be the same between greybird and orion | 09:03 |
| ochosi | so you should be able to copy paste most of it | 09:03 |
| ali1234 | it's not just menus though | 09:04 |
| ali1234 | the menu code already is the same | 09:04 |
| ali1234 | other things are squashed though | 09:04 |
| knome | ochosi, because obviously, xubuntu is so crap (: | 09:20 |
| knome | ochosi, and looks like he's going for a winxp-lookalike clone | 09:20 |
| ochosi | yeah | 09:21 |
| Luyin | whom are we mocking? :D | 09:21 |
| knome | xubuntu. | 09:21 |
| knome | ochosi, the thing that is the worst is that they don't have their contact information anywhere | 09:22 |
| ochosi | https://sites.google.com/site/chaletoslinux/about-author | 09:22 |
| ochosi | there is an email-address ^ | 09:22 |
| knome | oh | 09:22 |
| * knome facepalms | 09:22 | |
| knome | my excuse is that i've just woken up | 09:22 |
| ochosi | what's the second-worse thing? | 09:22 |
| ochosi | s/worse/worst/ | 09:22 |
| knome | i'm not sure | 09:22 |
| ochosi | :] | 09:23 |
| knome | there are two candidates | 09:23 |
| knome | it's either | 09:23 |
| ochosi | i would say the winxp-looks :> | 09:23 |
| knome | 1) they don't collaborate with the xubuntu team and ask how they should proceed and then leave all xubuntu-traces there (i'm sure we will get support requests from that OS if people start using it) | 09:24 |
| knome | or 2) they only change a small bit that would be very easily changeable within the host OS and thus waste people's time and bandwidth when they are doing the distro-hopping/testing | 09:24 |
| knome | all the people who want a winxp-lookalike xubuntu should really just work together and build a metapackage that installs everything you need to make your system like that, then find somebody to upload and maintain it in the archive | 09:25 |
| knome | furthermore, i don't understand this: | 09:26 |
| knome | Name ChaletOS came from the style of the mountain houses in Switzerland. The concept of these houses is similar to the concept that we had while we made this system: simplicity, beauty and recognizability. Since we want the new users feel at home, we expect this system to meet this goal. | 09:26 |
| ochosi | yeah, i guess for most it's icons+theme+xfce-settings.xml | 09:27 |
| knome | that kind of high-flying advertising text written about xubuntu derivatives always makes me think the xubuntu team has failed what it is doing; or that the author is simply taking all the glory to themself | 09:28 |
| knome | there's no mention of switzerland in the xubuntu strategy document | 09:28 |
| knome | how is their OS suddenly so swiss? | 09:28 |
| knome | when you made what system? changed the theme configuration file? | 09:28 |
| knome | it might have wine preinstalled, there's a wine menuitem in one of the screenshots | 09:29 |
| knome | i mean i understand that somebody was having fun in creating that little project, making xubuntu boot and install so that it looks different | 09:30 |
| ochosi | might or might not. it's just a screenshot after all | 09:30 |
| knome | great, you've achieved your goal! | 09:30 |
| knome | https://sites.google.com/site/chaletoslinux/apps | 09:31 |
| knome | right, yeah, no wine mentioned | 09:31 |
| knome | they're installing both chrome and opera IN ADDITION to firefox | 09:31 |
| knome | uhh | 09:31 |
| knome | heh, it's also funny to see how he says that everything is familiar, then lists all of those "microsoft office webapps" and ultimately, ends the familiar names with telling how a thunar fork was made by an xfce user and tells how to enable a PPA ;) | 09:33 |
| knome | (^ if you wonder what's funny about it, that doesn't communicate familiarity to me) | 09:34 |
| knome | ok, i'm going phone-shopping now (: | 09:46 |
| knome | hf and ttyl | 09:46 |
| ochosi | good luck knome | 09:46 |
| slickymasterWork | elfy, brainwash, if you still want to change the importance of https://launchpad.net/bugs/1395720 I can do it | 10:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1395720 in catfish (Ubuntu) "authentication in livesession accepts any value as password" [High,Confirmed] | 10:09 |
| ochosi | bluesabre, Unit193: could either of you package this xdg-utils for -staging so we can get ppl to test it? https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xdg-utils/light-locker | 10:52 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: with light-locker 1.5.1 and latest xfpm, screensaver timeouts work correctly | 10:52 |
| ochosi | hm weird, ok, i'll do a clean install of vivid then... | 10:52 |
| ochosi | (tonight or asap) | 10:52 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: if you wanna give it some testing, just pull the branch and replace your local xdg-screensaver script with my version | 10:53 |
| ochosi | if after playing fullscreen in parole your timeout is what it was, we're good | 10:53 |
| bluesabre | I'll have to test it tonight... just did a reinstall last night, haven't set up my environment just yet | 10:55 |
| ochosi | right, well at least for that you don't need much of an env | 10:55 |
| ochosi | but yeah, no rush | 10:55 |
| bluesabre | yeah, the big part is for the packaging :) | 10:55 |
| ochosi | yup | 10:56 |
| ochosi | anyway, the changes to support light-locker should be tiny and trivial | 10:56 |
| ochosi | (assuming that the fd.org dbus interface works as expected) | 10:56 |
| bluesabre | does it work for you ? :) | 10:57 |
| ochosi | well, i couldn't test it because my setup is somehow broken | 10:57 |
| ochosi | as i said, the screen-blanking timeouts don't work atm with xfpm/ll | 10:58 |
| ochosi | or i guess they might somehow work if i manually set them with xset | 10:58 |
| bluesabre | yup | 10:58 |
| bluesabre | :D | 10:58 |
| ochosi | but i'd prefer if someone tried where everything is working | 10:58 |
| bluesabre | makes sense | 11:01 |
| bluesabre | gotta run for now, bbl | 11:05 |
| ochosi | have a good one, ttyl! | 11:06 |
| * ochosi is off for lunch | 11:06 | |
| slickymasterWork | knome, your last docs revision (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/vivid/revision/279) gave me a few errors building them | 11:32 |
| slickymasterWork | http://pastebin.com/1eVeHjxQ | 11:32 |
| slickymasterWork | all related to the translations script | 11:32 |
| slickymasterWork | Unit193 ^^^ | 11:32 |
| Unit193 | I don't really agree about the ChaletOS thing, if contacted are we actually going to try and change Xubuntu to be more like Windows? Not really, there was a spec about that even. The support issue stands, though of course. | 12:29 |
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| Unit193 | slickymasterWork: And as to that, you need gnome-doc-utils installed, sudo apt get build-dep xubuntu-docs | 12:44 |
| slickymasterWork | right you are, Unit193 :) | 12:50 |
| brainwash_ | ochosi: I'm using your xdg-screensaver and neither xdg-screensaver lock nor inhibit screen blanking while playing a movie do work | 13:20 |
| ochosi | hm, strange | 13:21 |
| brainwash_ | do I have to upgrade light-locker? | 13:21 |
| brainwash_ | 1.5.1-0ubuntu1 | 13:21 |
| ochosi | you need 1.5.1 | 13:21 |
| brainwash_ | does "xdg-screensaver lock" work for you? | 13:22 |
| ochosi | the calls _should_ work with ll1.5.1, but i guess i'll have to check again | 13:22 |
| ochosi | i'm not at home now, so i can't test | 13:22 |
| brainwash_ | ok, I'll gladly test it later again | 13:23 |
| ochosi | you could try the dbus calls from the script directly in the terminal | 13:23 |
| brainwash_ | if you push more changes | 13:23 |
| ochosi | to see what sort of reply you're getting | 13:23 |
| brainwash_ | sure | 13:24 |
| brainwash_ | nothing at all, maybe there is something wrong with the dbus call | 13:25 |
| ochosi | yeah, it's possible, have to check again | 13:26 |
| brainwash_ | ok :) | 13:26 |
| ochosi | last time i tried those fd.org dbus calls with light-locker, they worked | 13:26 |
| ochosi | thanks for testing either way | 13:26 |
| brainwash_ | slickymasterWork: feel free to change the importance. I was just concerned about the security status (requesting a password and accepting any combination is a minor issue in a passworl-less environemt -> live session). | 13:34 |
| knome | Unit193, no, but we can steer them towards contributing back to ubuntu, in the sense that the modifications would be available in the archive | 17:13 |
| * Unit193 shrugs. | 20:15 | |
| bluesabre | good evening folks! | 23:31 |
| knome | hullo bluesabre | 23:31 |
| bluesabre | hiya knome | 23:31 |
| knome | everybody popping up at the same time | 23:31 |
| ochosi | evening | 23:31 |
| bluesabre | hey ochosi | 23:32 |
| ochosi | well i'm about to sneak out | 23:32 |
| bluesabre | bai ochosi | 23:32 |
| knome | if you didn't live across the globe from ochosi, i could swear you'd have something fishy going on | 23:32 |
| knome | hah | 23:32 |
| ochosi | Unit193: meh, right, so that xfwm4 branch is extremely crashy/unusable when switching windows with alt-tab | 23:32 |
| ochosi | but good to know, thanks! | 23:32 |
| knome | ochosi, see my PM before you go-go (don't let me hanging on like a yo-yo= | 23:32 |
| Unit193 | >_< | 23:32 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: any word whether your xdg-screensaver fixes actually fixes the issue? | 23:36 |
| knome | bluesabre, two possibilities; yes and no. does that help? | 23:37 |
| knome | (: | 23:37 |
| bluesabre | thanks knome! | 23:37 |
| bluesabre | that really simplifies things | 23:37 |
| knome | absolutely! | 23:37 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: not really | 23:43 |
| ochosi | i just tried the dbus commands that xdg-screensaver uses for the fd.org dubs | 23:43 |
| ochosi | dbus | 23:43 |
| ochosi | that doesn't seem to do anything, oddly | 23:44 |
| ochosi | but i could also be messing it up, mostly cause i'm tired | 23:44 |
| bluesabre | back to the drawing board | 23:44 |
| ochosi | might take a look later this week | 23:44 |
| ochosi | generally speaking, ll should support the fd.org dbus spec for screensavers | 23:44 |
| ochosi | so it _should_ work | 23:44 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:44 |
| * ochosi shrugs | 23:45 | |
| bluesabre | I use that word a lot too | 23:45 |
| bluesabre | "should" | 23:45 |
| bluesabre | :D | 23:45 |
| ochosi | i remember successfully testing the dbus interface | 23:45 |
| knome | heh | 23:45 |
| ochosi | this was what i just tried: "dbus-send --session --dest=org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver --type=method_call /ScreenSaver org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver.Lock" | 23:45 |
| ochosi | (light-locker is running) | 23:46 |
| knome | so did i understand you right that this channel is full of "shoulders" | 23:46 |
| * bluesabre thinks that is right | 23:46 | |
| knome | look what i did there!!! ^ | 23:46 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: and ll-command -l works fine | 23:46 |
| ochosi | so it's running and working | 23:46 |
| bluesabre | right | 23:46 |
| ochosi | maybe there is an issue with the dbus interface not being compiled in? | 23:46 |
| ochosi | packaging? | 23:46 |
| * ochosi doesn't remember whether there was a build-time switch for that | 23:47 | |
| ochosi | maybe not | 23:48 |
| ochosi | anyway, too tired for anything now | 23:48 |
| ochosi | night all! | 23:48 |
| Unit193 | Well, it's only one package right? So make install should be putting everything in the package. | 23:49 |
| brainwash_ | bluesabre: can you please take a look at the recently attached log files in bug 1307545 ? | 23:54 |
| ubottu | bug 1307545 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Power Manager settings are ignored when closing laptop lid" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1307545 | 23:54 |
| brainwash_ | maybe you'll find something odd, or know how to further debug it | 23:54 |
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