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jonomhall119, around?01:46
mhall119jono: yeah02:51
dholbachgood morning08:22
elfydholbach: I always do that - mean to say hi in here and don't :p08:26
dholbach:)08:26
dholbachhi dpm09:02
dpmhey, morning dholbach09:03
* dholbach relocates to the office, brb09:11
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dpmdholbach, popey, did we run a Q&A last week?11:13
dholbachdpm, I didn't, but the rest of the gang did11:13
dpmdholbach, ok, cool. I'll put myself in for today's one. Do you want to join in?11:14
dholbachsure, why not11:15
dpmok, great11:15
popey11:16
popeyI had my hair cut just for this!11:17
popey11:17
czajkowskialoha12:29
dholbachdpm, popey's up for grabs :-P12:35
popey:p12:36
dpmoh, he meant for today?12:36
dpmdholbach, oh well then he should definitely be on it, although I much preferred the previous haircut https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/08/26/9c/08269c1c1ee73dc896275cb8e2d3a444.jpg12:38
popeyhah12:38
dpm:)12:39
dholbachnot bad :)12:40
* ian-weisser yawns and blinks12:51
ian-weisserAh, Tuesday. I guess it's time to ping some people about my AskNot merge request....12:51
ian-weisserhttps://code.launchpad.net/~ian-weisser/ubuntu-community-website/asknot-php/+merge/24551612:52
dholbachmhall119 might know more about it - I never touched any of the php bits of the site :/12:54
* ian-weisser sends a polite e-mail to the Ubuntu Community Website team admin(s)13:02
ian-weisserdholbach: Thanks. Looking at the truck, seems like only mhall119 and ant__ have touched it before me.13:05
ian-weisserSuch untrammelled wilderness.13:05
ian-weissers/truck/trunk13:05
* ian-weisser tells his fingers to wake up.13:05
dholbach:)13:06
* mhall119 doesn't recall touching this one13:41
mhall119oh,that's the theme13:41
ian-weissermhall119: Right13:52
mhall119ian-weisser: does this need to be in PHP or can we just put it into a Wordpress page as content?13:54
ian-weissermhall119: It can be content instead. Your choice.13:55
ian-weisserI found php to be easier to maintain, since Wordpress 'helps' the HTML in unhelpful ways13:55
mhall119yeah, I hate that13:56
ian-weisserAlso, php means changes can be branches instead of bugs.13:56
ian-weisserMy merge comment field is long, but anticipates that question13:57
ian-weisserWhen a team wants to add or remove an advertised job, do you want a merge request, or a bug?13:59
ian-weisserThe header must remain in php; sometheing needs to load the JS and CSS.14:00
mhall119I'd rather a bug and update WP, rather than a branch merge and RT to deploy it14:03
ian-weisserToo easy. Three steps.14:04
ian-weisserguidance_wizard.pho becomes content14:04
ian-weisserguidance_wizard.php becomes content14:04
ian-weisserremove the hook from page.php14:04
ian-weisserupdate the nine pictogram IMG links, since they will be in uploads instread of library14:05
ian-weisserOops, four steps, upload the pictograms to content instead of Library14:06
ian-weisserVoila. Content instead.14:06
mhall119ok, and what path on community.ubuntu.com did we want this on?14:07
ian-weisserI thought someplace on the 'Contribute' page would be most appropriate.14:08
ian-weisserWould you like me to prepare a new branch ready with those content-based changes?14:09
mhall119ian-weisser: no, I think I'll be okay with the branch that's there14:09
mhall119ian-weisser: can I put the CSS and JS inline on the page?14:11
ian-weisserThe hook in header.php looks for the 'contribute' page to load the CSS and JS; Easy to change.14:11
ian-weissermhall119: Have not tried it. Good question. Cannot see any showstoppers.14:13
ian-weisserI suspect inline should work14:14
* ian-weisser runs off to try it14:16
ian-weissermhall119: Yes, my test of inline CSS and JS works properly.14:25
mhall119it would, if it wasn't WP being "helpful", but uploading them to media works14:25
ian-weisserAh, I was testing outside of WP.14:25
ian-weisserI always run it in HTML outside WP first.14:27
ian-weisserLooking through my notes, I did run into the inline-Javascript problem. Only solution I found was a new plugin. I rejected that solution -- not my server.14:29
mhall119ian-weisser: http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/find-a-task/14:40
ian-weissermhall119: It's lovely!14:40
mhall119it really is, you did a great job on it14:41
mhall119now, which mailinglist was this being discussed on?14:42
ian-weisserubuntu-community-team list14:42
ian-weisserSpecial thanks the the testers, their feedback was invaluable.14:43
ian-weisserAnd to bkerensa, who made the comment that started the ball rolling.14:43
ian-weisserAnd to pleia2, who was already several km down the road on a similar project; a lot of that effort is in asknot, too.14:46
mhall119thanks bkerensa and pleia2 :)14:51
dpmwow, good work ian-weisser with http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/find-a-task (and everyone else involved)15:03
dholbachdpm, so it's going to be you and me in the Q&A in 40m? anyone else? anything I missed?15:19
dpmdholbach, yes, unless someone else wants to join in  too15:19
dholbachpopey, ^ were you serious earlier? :)15:20
popeyI'm happy doing it15:20
dholbachI'm just asking, so I can announce who of us is going to be there15:23
popeywow we both pounced on that bug15:24
imnicholdholbach, are/were you talking about ubuntuonair.com?15:41
dholbachimnichol, yes15:41
imnicholOh, hey, I didn't see anything on the calendar, but now I do.  Ok, nevermind then :)15:42
dholbachdpm, popey: can you promote the event on G+?15:46
dholbachI'm already logged in with ubuntuonair@15:46
dholbachand spammed twitter and FB15:46
popeyya15:47
dpmon it15:48
dholbach<315:50
belkinsaian-weisser, is this Task-List thing (AskNot) really the job board?  Or will you work more on that idea?16:04
ian-weisserbelkinsa: Find-A-Task _is_ the job board.16:05
belkinsaOh, I guess we both had different thoughts on what this job is.16:06
ian-weisserbelkinsa: If you break down what a real Job Board does, and take out the bits that apply only to paid work, you're pretty much left with AskNot.16:07
ian-weisserExample: Not much purpose to storing volunteer resumes.16:07
belkinsaRight, duh.  And good point.16:07
ian-weisserAlso, a 'Job Board' is deliberately opaque - it's trying to block nongermane communication. Recruiting volunteers is totally different. We want them to click through and join the team.16:09
ian-weisserSo it has to be a lot friendlier.16:09
ian-weisserIt has to remove perceptual barriers.16:10
belkinsaOkay, I see.16:10
belkinsaian-weisser, you think you can add the Ubuntu Security Team  (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved) into the AskNot?  There may be people who are interested in that.16:19
ian-weisserbelkinsa: Already in there.16:20
belkinsaOh.  Thank you.16:20
ian-weisserIt's on the community website; I don't have access to change the content.16:21
ian-weisserChanging content requires a few details:16:21
ian-weisser1) URL landing page for the advertised role16:22
belkinsaI guess I can just file a bug for that16:22
ian-weisserbelkinsa: Security team is already on Find-A-Task16:22
belkinsaThen nevermind.16:22
ian-weisser2) Exactly how you want the role to be described16:23
ian-weisser3) Preferred navigation path to the role.16:23
ian-weisserThat's all. Easy three things, then file a bug.16:24
elfyian-weisser: thanks for doing this - and those that have joined in, I copied the thread in Cafe on forum to the other chat area and have stuck both for a while too16:24
ian-weisserelfy: I hope to get some of the old-timers in the forums to use it when addressing new enthusiasts. Maybe see if a few will put it in their signature links,etc.16:26
elfyI can add it to mine16:27
ian-weisserelfy: You can advertise 'support' volunteers, or other roles, if you wish.16:27
elfymore likely to just point people and let them see the whole lot :)16:28
imnicholWhat happened to the call for help for the Ubuntu newsletter?  I never heard back when I volunteered17:30
PaulW2Uimnichol: Did you volunteer to write summaries?17:34
imnicholPaulW2U, yeah17:34
PaulW2UThis week has been problematic. The summary writer email wasn't sent.17:36
imnicholPaulW2U, oh ok j17:36
PaulW2UIf you've been told that you're on the list then I'm sure next week you'll get an email17:37
imnicholI have not been told I'm on a list.  I didn't get any response.17:37
imnicholShould I try sending again?17:37
PaulW2UPlease join #ubuntu-news and tell pleia2 that you want to be added to the summary writers email17:38
imnicholThanks17:41
popeyits already there benvantende17:42
popeyoops17:42
popeyi was scrolled up17:42
* ian-weisser just blogged Find-A-Task for the Planet17:53
popey\o/17:58
elfyanyone who is or knows a moderator on the ubuntu-irc mailing list?18:45
pleia2went through :)18:48
pleia2oh, maybe I'm just seeing the CC version18:48
pleia2I'll ask the irc folks18:49
pleia2there, NOW it's gone through18:50
elfy:)18:50
PaulW2U /topic19:03
elfymmm topics - a hazelnut in every bite :p19:08
PaulW2Ui hate irc, you can so easily broadcast your mistakes to the world :)19:11
elfy:)19:11
pleia2real life is like that too, I try to stay home :D19:12
elfyha ha ha19:13
czajkowskipleia2: can you send me the link again :(19:15
pleia2czajkowski: link to..?19:16
czajkowskiinteview Q's..19:16
czajkowskiplease.19:16
pleia2see other channel19:16
Pici3619:32
Pici(oops)19:32
popeyeveryone is at it!19:57
popey /me never makes mistakes19:57
elfy /join the club19:58
mhall119ian-weisser: what/w 8320:10
mhall119ignore that :/20:11
elfypopey: but mhall119 tries to include other people in his mistakes ...20:11
popeyGold star for mhall119!20:12
elfyyep20:12
mhall119that's what happens when you start to ask somebody a question, then realize halfway though that you can probably answer it yourself, then forget you already had it written in your IRC window20:14
joseso, someone's using irssi20:15
popey\o/ Irssi20:16
popeylooking forward to having that on the phone ㋛20:16
mhall119jose: isn't everyone using irssi?  Or are there still luddites among us?20:22
joseo/20:23
joseI'm using xchat20:23
popeymhall119: dude! irssi users _are_ the luddites!20:23
popeyEmbrace your inner luddite!20:23
mhall119what? no, how can that be it uses Perl, a thoroughly modern language20:24
jonojose, hey21:09
jonoaround?21:09
josejono: hi!21:09
joseyep21:09
jonohows it going, pal?21:09
joseI'm great! what about you?21:10
jonogreat thanks!21:10
jonoare you going to be at SCALE?21:10
joseyep!21:10
jonoawesome21:10
jonocan I ask for your help on something?21:10
jonosay no if you don't want to21:10
josedefinitely, what's up?21:10
jonothe podcast I do, Bad Voltage21:10
jonowe are doing a live show at SCALE21:10
jonoon the Friday night21:10
jonoit is going to be a blast21:10
jonoand we plan on filming it21:11
jonowould you be interested in manning a camera and filming?21:11
josesure!21:11
jonoawesome, thanks, pal!21:11
josejust gimme the camera and 10m to prepare and I'll be ready21:11
jonosounds good21:11
jonowe will ensure you have everything you need21:12
jonoI am aiming for a 3 camera shoot21:12
joseare you going to do a live video stream?21:12
jononot sure, SCALE are seeing if we can do that21:12
joseHangouts would support that for sure, in case you need it21:12
jonoyeah, we may try to rig one cam up21:13
jonoideally we will21:13
jonogonna be a fun show :-)21:13
jonoI will be at the Ubucon too :-)21:13
joseawesome!21:14
joseit definitely looks like it'll be a fun conference21:15
josejono: I can help with the pictures too, if it's before the show21:15
jonojose, oh cool21:15
jonoI am looking for something like this: http://blog_uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/ubuntu_community_team_1080p.jpg21:16
jonodo you have a fisheye?21:16
joseyou got me there, nope21:16
jonono worries, but you have a SLR or something?21:16
joseI do, have a DSLR21:16
jonooh nice21:16
jonowe may take you up on this if possible21:16
jonodo you have some example photos?21:16
jonoI would love to see them21:16
josesec21:17
jonocheers21:17
czajkowskialoha21:31
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