[01:46] <jono> mhall119, around?
[02:51] <mhall119> jono: yeah
[08:22] <dholbach> good morning
[08:26] <elfy> dholbach: I always do that - mean to say hi in here and don't :p
[08:26] <dholbach> :)
[09:02] <dholbach> hi dpm
[09:03] <dpm> hey, morning dholbach
[09:11]  * dholbach relocates to the office, brb
[11:13] <dpm> dholbach, popey, did we run a Q&A last week?
[11:13] <dholbach> dpm, I didn't, but the rest of the gang did
[11:14] <dpm> dholbach, ok, cool. I'll put myself in for today's one. Do you want to join in?
[11:15] <dholbach> sure, why not
[11:15] <dpm> ok, great
[11:16] <popey> ☻
[11:17] <popey> I had my hair cut just for this!
[11:17] <popey> ☻
[12:29] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:35] <dholbach> dpm, popey's up for grabs :-P
[12:36] <popey> :p
[12:36] <dpm> oh, he meant for today?
[12:38] <dpm> dholbach, oh well then he should definitely be on it, although I much preferred the previous haircut https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/08/26/9c/08269c1c1ee73dc896275cb8e2d3a444.jpg
[12:38] <popey> hah
[12:39] <dpm> :)
[12:40] <dholbach> not bad :)
[12:51]  * ian-weisser yawns and blinks
[12:51] <ian-weisser> Ah, Tuesday. I guess it's time to ping some people about my AskNot merge request....
[12:52] <ian-weisser> https://code.launchpad.net/~ian-weisser/ubuntu-community-website/asknot-php/+merge/245516
[12:54] <dholbach> mhall119 might know more about it - I never touched any of the php bits of the site :/
[13:02]  * ian-weisser sends a polite e-mail to the Ubuntu Community Website team admin(s)
[13:05] <ian-weisser> dholbach: Thanks. Looking at the truck, seems like only mhall119 and ant__ have touched it before me.
[13:05] <ian-weisser> Such untrammelled wilderness.
[13:05] <ian-weisser> s/truck/trunk
[13:05]  * ian-weisser tells his fingers to wake up.
[13:06] <dholbach> :)
[13:41]  * mhall119 doesn't recall touching this one
[13:41] <mhall119> oh,that's the theme
[13:52] <ian-weisser> mhall119: Right
[13:54] <mhall119> ian-weisser: does this need to be in PHP or can we just put it into a Wordpress page as content?
[13:55] <ian-weisser> mhall119: It can be content instead. Your choice.
[13:55] <ian-weisser> I found php to be easier to maintain, since Wordpress 'helps' the HTML in unhelpful ways
[13:56] <mhall119> yeah, I hate that
[13:56] <ian-weisser> Also, php means changes can be branches instead of bugs.
[13:57] <ian-weisser> My merge comment field is long, but anticipates that question
[13:59] <ian-weisser> When a team wants to add or remove an advertised job, do you want a merge request, or a bug?
[14:00] <ian-weisser> The header must remain in php; sometheing needs to load the JS and CSS.
[14:03] <mhall119> I'd rather a bug and update WP, rather than a branch merge and RT to deploy it
[14:04] <ian-weisser> Too easy. Three steps.
[14:04] <ian-weisser> guidance_wizard.pho becomes content
[14:04] <ian-weisser> guidance_wizard.php becomes content
[14:04] <ian-weisser> remove the hook from page.php
[14:05] <ian-weisser> update the nine pictogram IMG links, since they will be in uploads instread of library
[14:06] <ian-weisser> Oops, four steps, upload the pictograms to content instead of Library
[14:06] <ian-weisser> Voila. Content instead.
[14:07] <mhall119> ok, and what path on community.ubuntu.com did we want this on?
[14:08] <ian-weisser> I thought someplace on the 'Contribute' page would be most appropriate.
[14:09] <ian-weisser> Would you like me to prepare a new branch ready with those content-based changes?
[14:09] <mhall119> ian-weisser: no, I think I'll be okay with the branch that's there
[14:11] <mhall119> ian-weisser: can I put the CSS and JS inline on the page?
[14:11] <ian-weisser> The hook in header.php looks for the 'contribute' page to load the CSS and JS; Easy to change.
[14:13] <ian-weisser> mhall119: Have not tried it. Good question. Cannot see any showstoppers.
[14:14] <ian-weisser> I suspect inline should work
[14:16]  * ian-weisser runs off to try it
[14:25] <ian-weisser> mhall119: Yes, my test of inline CSS and JS works properly.
[14:25] <mhall119> it would, if it wasn't WP being "helpful", but uploading them to media works
[14:25] <ian-weisser> Ah, I was testing outside of WP.
[14:27] <ian-weisser> I always run it in HTML outside WP first.
[14:29] <ian-weisser> Looking through my notes, I did run into the inline-Javascript problem. Only solution I found was a new plugin. I rejected that solution -- not my server.
[14:40] <mhall119> ian-weisser: http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/find-a-task/
[14:40] <ian-weisser> mhall119: It's lovely!
[14:41] <mhall119> it really is, you did a great job on it
[14:42] <mhall119> now, which mailinglist was this being discussed on?
[14:42] <ian-weisser> ubuntu-community-team list
[14:43] <ian-weisser> Special thanks the the testers, their feedback was invaluable.
[14:43] <ian-weisser> And to bkerensa, who made the comment that started the ball rolling.
[14:46] <ian-weisser> And to pleia2, who was already several km down the road on a similar project; a lot of that effort is in asknot, too.
[14:51] <mhall119> thanks bkerensa and pleia2 :)
[15:03] <dpm> wow, good work ian-weisser with http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/find-a-task (and everyone else involved)
[15:19] <dholbach> dpm, so it's going to be you and me in the Q&A in 40m? anyone else? anything I missed?
[15:19] <dpm> dholbach, yes, unless someone else wants to join in  too
[15:20] <dholbach> popey, ^ were you serious earlier? :)
[15:20] <popey> I'm happy doing it
[15:23] <dholbach> I'm just asking, so I can announce who of us is going to be there
[15:24] <popey> wow we both pounced on that bug
[15:41] <imnichol> dholbach, are/were you talking about ubuntuonair.com?
[15:41] <dholbach> imnichol, yes
[15:42] <imnichol> Oh, hey, I didn't see anything on the calendar, but now I do.  Ok, nevermind then :)
[15:46] <dholbach> dpm, popey: can you promote the event on G+?
[15:46] <dholbach> I'm already logged in with ubuntuonair@
[15:46] <dholbach> and spammed twitter and FB
[15:47] <popey> ya
[15:48] <dpm> on it
[15:50] <dholbach> <3
[16:04] <belkinsa> ian-weisser, is this Task-List thing (AskNot) really the job board?  Or will you work more on that idea?
[16:05] <ian-weisser> belkinsa: Find-A-Task _is_ the job board.
[16:06] <belkinsa> Oh, I guess we both had different thoughts on what this job is.
[16:07] <ian-weisser> belkinsa: If you break down what a real Job Board does, and take out the bits that apply only to paid work, you're pretty much left with AskNot.
[16:07] <ian-weisser> Example: Not much purpose to storing volunteer resumes.
[16:07] <belkinsa> Right, duh.  And good point.
[16:09] <ian-weisser> Also, a 'Job Board' is deliberately opaque - it's trying to block nongermane communication. Recruiting volunteers is totally different. We want them to click through and join the team.
[16:09] <ian-weisser> So it has to be a lot friendlier.
[16:10] <ian-weisser> It has to remove perceptual barriers.
[16:10] <belkinsa> Okay, I see.
[16:19] <belkinsa> ian-weisser, you think you can add the Ubuntu Security Team  (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved) into the AskNot?  There may be people who are interested in that.
[16:20] <ian-weisser> belkinsa: Already in there.
[16:20] <belkinsa> Oh.  Thank you.
[16:21] <ian-weisser> It's on the community website; I don't have access to change the content.
[16:21] <ian-weisser> Changing content requires a few details:
[16:22] <ian-weisser> 1) URL landing page for the advertised role
[16:22] <belkinsa> I guess I can just file a bug for that
[16:22] <ian-weisser> belkinsa: Security team is already on Find-A-Task
[16:22] <belkinsa> Then nevermind.
[16:23] <ian-weisser> 2) Exactly how you want the role to be described
[16:23] <ian-weisser> 3) Preferred navigation path to the role.
[16:24] <ian-weisser> That's all. Easy three things, then file a bug.
[16:24] <elfy> ian-weisser: thanks for doing this - and those that have joined in, I copied the thread in Cafe on forum to the other chat area and have stuck both for a while too
[16:26] <ian-weisser> elfy: I hope to get some of the old-timers in the forums to use it when addressing new enthusiasts. Maybe see if a few will put it in their signature links,etc.
[16:27] <elfy> I can add it to mine
[16:27] <ian-weisser> elfy: You can advertise 'support' volunteers, or other roles, if you wish.
[16:28] <elfy> more likely to just point people and let them see the whole lot :)
[17:30] <imnichol> What happened to the call for help for the Ubuntu newsletter?  I never heard back when I volunteered
[17:34] <PaulW2U> imnichol: Did you volunteer to write summaries?
[17:34] <imnichol> PaulW2U, yeah
[17:36] <PaulW2U> This week has been problematic. The summary writer email wasn't sent.
[17:36] <imnichol> PaulW2U, oh ok j
[17:37] <PaulW2U> If you've been told that you're on the list then I'm sure next week you'll get an email
[17:37] <imnichol> I have not been told I'm on a list.  I didn't get any response.
[17:37] <imnichol> Should I try sending again?
[17:38] <PaulW2U> Please join #ubuntu-news and tell pleia2 that you want to be added to the summary writers email
[17:41] <imnichol> Thanks
[17:42] <popey> its already there benvantende
[17:42] <popey> oops
[17:42] <popey> i was scrolled up
[17:53]  * ian-weisser just blogged Find-A-Task for the Planet
[17:58] <popey> \o/
[18:45] <elfy> anyone who is or knows a moderator on the ubuntu-irc mailing list?
[18:48] <pleia2> went through :)
[18:48] <pleia2> oh, maybe I'm just seeing the CC version
[18:49] <pleia2> I'll ask the irc folks
[18:50] <pleia2> there, NOW it's gone through
[18:50] <elfy> :)
[19:03] <PaulW2U>  /topic
[19:08] <elfy> mmm topics - a hazelnut in every bite :p
[19:11] <PaulW2U> i hate irc, you can so easily broadcast your mistakes to the world :)
[19:11] <elfy> :)
[19:12] <pleia2> real life is like that too, I try to stay home :D
[19:13] <elfy> ha ha ha
[19:15] <czajkowski> pleia2: can you send me the link again :(
[19:16] <pleia2> czajkowski: link to..?
[19:16] <czajkowski> inteview Q's..
[19:16] <czajkowski> please.
[19:16] <pleia2> see other channel
[19:32] <Pici> 36
[19:32] <Pici> (oops)
[19:57] <popey> everyone is at it!
[19:57] <popey>  /me never makes mistakes
[19:58] <elfy>  /join the club
[20:10] <mhall119> ian-weisser: what/w 83
[20:11] <mhall119> ignore that :/
[20:11] <elfy> popey: but mhall119 tries to include other people in his mistakes ...
[20:12] <popey> Gold star for mhall119!
[20:12] <elfy> yep
[20:14] <mhall119> that's what happens when you start to ask somebody a question, then realize halfway though that you can probably answer it yourself, then forget you already had it written in your IRC window
[20:15] <jose> so, someone's using irssi
[20:16] <popey> \o/ Irssi
[20:16] <popey> looking forward to having that on the phone ㋛
[20:22] <mhall119> jose: isn't everyone using irssi?  Or are there still luddites among us?
[20:23] <jose> o/
[20:23] <jose> I'm using xchat
[20:23] <popey> mhall119: dude! irssi users _are_ the luddites!
[20:23] <popey> Embrace your inner luddite!
[20:24] <mhall119> what? no, how can that be it uses Perl, a thoroughly modern language
[21:09] <jono> jose, hey
[21:09] <jono> around?
[21:09] <jose> jono: hi!
[21:09] <jose> yep
[21:09] <jono> hows it going, pal?
[21:10] <jose> I'm great! what about you?
[21:10] <jono> great thanks!
[21:10] <jono> are you going to be at SCALE?
[21:10] <jose> yep!
[21:10] <jono> awesome
[21:10] <jono> can I ask for your help on something?
[21:10] <jono> say no if you don't want to
[21:10] <jose> definitely, what's up?
[21:10] <jono> the podcast I do, Bad Voltage
[21:10] <jono> we are doing a live show at SCALE
[21:10] <jono> on the Friday night
[21:10] <jono> it is going to be a blast
[21:11] <jono> and we plan on filming it
[21:11] <jono> would you be interested in manning a camera and filming?
[21:11] <jose> sure!
[21:11] <jono> awesome, thanks, pal!
[21:11] <jose> just gimme the camera and 10m to prepare and I'll be ready
[21:11] <jono> sounds good
[21:12] <jono> we will ensure you have everything you need
[21:12] <jono> I am aiming for a 3 camera shoot
[21:12] <jose> are you going to do a live video stream?
[21:12] <jono> not sure, SCALE are seeing if we can do that
[21:12] <jose> Hangouts would support that for sure, in case you need it
[21:13] <jono> yeah, we may try to rig one cam up
[21:13] <jono> ideally we will
[21:13] <jono> gonna be a fun show :-)
[21:13] <jono> I will be at the Ubucon too :-)
[21:14] <jose> awesome!
[21:15] <jose> it definitely looks like it'll be a fun conference
[21:15] <jose> jono: I can help with the pictures too, if it's before the show
[21:15] <jono> jose, oh cool
[21:16] <jono> I am looking for something like this: http://blog_uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/ubuntu_community_team_1080p.jpg
[21:16] <jono> do you have a fisheye?
[21:16] <jose> you got me there, nope
[21:16] <jono> no worries, but you have a SLR or something?
[21:16] <jose> I do, have a DSLR
[21:16] <jono> oh nice
[21:16] <jono> we may take you up on this if possible
[21:16] <jono> do you have some example photos?
[21:16] <jono> I would love to see them
[21:17] <jose> sec
[21:17] <jono> cheers
[21:31] <czajkowski> aloha