| pitti | Good morning | 06:03 |
|---|---|---|
| larsu | bonjour! | 06:06 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:22 |
| larsu | hi didrocks! | 06:25 |
| didrocks | hey larsu, how goes? | 06:28 |
| larsu | good thanks! And you? | 06:29 |
| didrocks | I'm good, neck mostly fixed (but still will need a visit next month) | 06:31 |
| didrocks | and I'll try to book to the sport doctor for my knees today… | 06:31 |
| didrocks | seems that this week then I can't run and I can't cycle :/ | 06:31 |
| larsu | :( | 06:34 |
| larsu | good to hear you're taking care of it though | 06:34 |
| didrocks | yeah, I hope to get that fixed at some point… | 06:37 |
| pitti | bonjour larsu et didrocks ! | 06:45 |
| pitti | didrocks: ouch! | 06:45 |
| didrocks | bonjour pitti ! | 06:46 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:38 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 07:41 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks ;-) | 07:41 |
| willcooke | le yawn | 08:20 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 08:22 |
| didrocks | morning willcooke | 08:22 |
| larsu | morning! | 08:27 |
| seb128 | hey larsu ;-) | 08:27 |
| Laney | howdy! | 09:03 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, comment vas-tu ? | 09:03 |
| pitti | hey willcooke | 09:04 |
| seb128 | hey Laney pitti, wie gehts? | 09:04 |
| willcooke | morning pitti Laney | 09:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, ça va bien, merci ;-) | 09:04 |
| pitti | seb128: gut, danke! wir haben sehr schoene Sonne gerade! | 09:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, lucky you, it's strong wind and some rain here | 09:06 |
| Laney | doing good! | 09:07 |
| Laney | it's also sunny here :-) | 09:07 |
| Laney | blue skies | 09:07 |
| * pitti ^5s Laney | 09:08 | |
| didrocks | hey Laney! | 09:11 |
| seb128 | great, enjoy it guys ;-) | 09:11 |
| * seb128 hopes sun comes to say hey here as well | 09:12 | |
| * pitti pushes some northwestwards | 09:13 | |
| seb128 | danke :-) | 09:14 |
| Laney | hey didrocks | 09:15 |
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| willcooke | ahhh, the comments section on Phoronix makes me chuckle | 09:35 |
| seb128 | summary? ;-) | 09:43 |
| darkxst | willcooke, Phoronix is a troll-hive of people who have no idea what they are talking about (mostly) | 09:45 |
| Laney | didrocks: can we promote adwaita-icon-theme or do you want a proper MIR? | 09:45 |
| Laney | it's needed for gtk's testsuite atm | 09:45 |
| Laney | so build-time only for Ubuntu | 09:46 |
| darkxst | Laney, did you still want to split that? | 09:46 |
| Laney | yeah | 09:46 |
| Laney | not now though | 09:46 |
| darkxst | Laney, https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging/+files/adwaita-icon-theme_3.14.0-0ubuntu1%7Eutopic2.dsc | 09:47 |
| Laney | what is it? | 09:48 |
| darkxst | a package that ricotz split some time ago | 09:48 |
| willcooke | darkxst, :) | 09:49 |
| didrocks | Laney: is it a split or part of something that was in main already? | 09:50 |
| willcooke | seb128, the conversation immediately degraded in to an argument about why Mir was called Mir | 09:50 |
| Laney | didrocks: it's the successor to gnome-icon-theme | 09:50 |
| didrocks | Laney: but it's new "code/icons"? | 09:51 |
| darkxst | didrocks, some new icons, not many | 09:51 |
| didrocks | I guess a MIR would still be needed, at least, to ensure that everyone got the questions of deps and size | 09:51 |
| darkxst | though it merged a few other packages, like gnome-icon-theme-symbolic | 09:52 |
| didrocks | even if it's just a build-dep, as then, something may accidently starts depending on it | 09:52 |
| darkxst | Laney, speaking of which transitioning to a-i-t will be a bit of work, why do so many apps depend on gnome-icon-theme? | 09:54 |
| Laney | because they want to ensure the icons are there in any random environment I guess | 09:54 |
| Laney | if they are compatible we can provide a transitional package | 09:56 |
| didrocks | willcooke: well, this one is even more depressing: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?111986-Ubuntu-Make-Adds-Google-Go-Support-Game-Category | 09:58 |
| didrocks | they are trolling about phoronix headline | 09:58 |
| Laney | hahaha, Game Category | 10:00 |
| mlankhorst | phoronix sometimes has a run in with reality, but it usually tries to avoid it.. | 10:00 |
| darkxst | didrocks, Michael seems to have a good business selling ads to trolls! | 10:00 |
| didrocks | yeah ;) | 10:00 |
| mlankhorst | phoronix forums are unmoderated and usually pure bile.. | 10:01 |
| darkxst | Laney, should be compatible, not aware of any icons removed, but there seem to be a lot of new icons not included in the 'not-in-humanity' list | 10:10 |
| Laney | I don't think it's been updated really | 10:10 |
| darkxst | or ever? | 10:10 |
| Laney | the pan- icons need to be in -i-t not -full | 10:11 |
| Laney | should probably make a script when doing the split this time | 10:11 |
| Laney | I'll try to do this before Feature Freeze if nobody else does | 10:11 |
| Laney | writing the MIR currently | 10:12 |
| darkxst | Laney, ok, I will probably focus on patching the remaing 3.14 apps (once I am done porting gjs to exact-rooting and building my shed) | 10:18 |
| Laney | didrocks: bug #1410174 if you have a minute | 10:23 |
| ubot5 | bug 1410174 in adwaita-icon-theme (Ubuntu) "[MIR] adwaita-icon-theme" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1410174 | 10:23 |
| Laney | seb128: could you subscribe desktop-bugs please? | 10:23 |
| seb128 | Laney, done | 10:24 |
| Laney | merci! | 10:25 |
| Laney | the previous version had this b-d too, but managed to go in | 10:26 |
| didrocks | Laney: probably later today or tomorrow morning, I have exploded my MIR time for the week :) | 10:26 |
| Laney | I bet it used the silo backdoor | 10:26 |
| seb128 | Laney, there is a new evo stack (3.12.10), if you do the update can you backport the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/+bug/1406164 as well (I added the git commit url to the bug) | 10:32 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1406164 in evolution-data-server (Ubuntu) "evolution-calendar-factory crashed with SIGABRT in g_mutex_clear()" [High,Fix committed] | 10:32 |
| Laney | seb128: if it's the one in the stable branch then I already have that picked locally, but thanks for the pointer | 10:33 |
| Laney | think I'll SRU .10 too | 10:33 |
| seb128 | Laney, yw, it's likely it, I noticed it looking at e.u.c | 10:34 |
| Laney | looks like it | 10:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, danke ;-) | 10:34 |
| Laney | I started to work on that yesterday | 10:34 |
| Laney | then got distracted by this a-i-t stuff | 10:34 |
| Laney | back to that in a minute ;-) | 10:34 |
| * Laney puts the kettle on first | 10:34 | |
| Laney | oh god we've run out of tea! | 10:40 |
| * didrocks knows map tea to father ted soap opera | 10:41 | |
| didrocks | now* | 10:41 |
| willcooke | Laney, don't joke about that sort of thing man | 10:45 |
| Laney | this is no joke | 10:46 |
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| willcooke | Get to the shop, stat | 10:46 |
| Laney | I found some dregs of vanilla tea and poured it all into the pot on top of the stuff we used this morning | 10:46 |
| Laney | this might get me to lunch | 10:46 |
| Laney | hand to mouth living | 10:47 |
| willcooke | :) | 10:48 |
| willcooke | larsu, I'm running metacity on my phone and the font size is waaay to big, can I change that? | 10:48 |
| willcooke | for example, the title bar on a window is about 1/4 of the screen | 10:48 |
| willcooke | and I installed gconf-editor, but I cant use it because the font size means I can only see the first half of one word | 10:49 |
| willcooke | any ideas? | 10:49 |
| larsu | willcooke: you can change gsettings from the command line as well | 11:03 |
| larsu | willcooke: `gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface font-name "Ubuntu 10"` | 11:03 |
| willcooke | thanks larsu | 11:03 |
| Cimi | Wellark, ping | 11:04 |
| larsu | willcooke: I hope that's the font size you're looking for ;) | 11:04 |
| willcooke | I'll give it a go | 11:04 |
| Laney | larsu: fancy pushing gnome bug #741653 for me? | 11:08 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 741653 in gio "gnetworkmonitornm: Check if network-manager is running" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741653 | 11:08 |
| larsu | Laney: can do | 11:09 |
| larsu | status is not accept-commit_now | 11:09 |
| larsu | but I guess hadess' comment is enough | 11:10 |
| Laney | looks like it is to me? | 11:10 |
| larsu | ah. /me is blind | 11:10 |
| larsu | (and has one too many bugzilla windows open) | 11:10 |
| Laney | :) | 11:10 |
| * larsu builds, just in case ;) | 11:11 | |
| Laney | haha | 11:11 |
| Laney | like a true sponsor | 11:12 |
| ricotz | Laney, having fun with hadess ;) | 11:14 |
| larsu | Laney: done | 11:14 |
| Laney | there's worse maintainers :P | 11:14 |
| Laney | thanks! | 11:14 |
| larsu | ya | 11:15 |
| * ricotz pointed him to the bug after this partial commit | 11:15 | |
| Laney | ricotz: well spotted to you then | 11:16 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, hi, did you got my email? | 11:35 |
| Sweet5hark | ricotz: about? | 11:35 |
| Sweet5hark | 4.4 ppa? | 11:35 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, yes | 11:36 |
| Sweet5hark | will do that when we are near 4.4 final | 11:36 |
| desrt | moin, ubuntanoj | 11:37 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, just create it, no need to fill right now | 11:38 |
| willcooke | hey desrt | 11:38 |
| willcooke | desrt, space news! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/13/lost_beagle_found_mars_nasa/ | 11:39 |
| desrt | wow. old news. | 11:39 |
| desrt | pretty amazing that we have sats around mars that can pick up something that small :) | 11:39 |
| larsu | morning desrt! | 11:40 |
| desrt | larsu: 'lo | 11:41 |
| desrt | willcooke: too bad about the poor conditions for video on saturday, eh? | 11:42 |
| willcooke | yeah, thats a shame | 11:42 |
| desrt | that's almost a bigger shame than the failed landing | 11:44 |
| desrt | it would have almost been 'too good' if they nailed that one on the first try :) | 11:44 |
| willcooke | heh, where's the fun in that :) | 11:44 |
| willcooke | I'm confident that they will get it to work | 11:44 |
| * desrt wonders how many sats are in mars orbit these days | 11:45 | |
| willcooke | desrt, 13 | 11:45 |
| desrt | i kinda like thinking about the rovers as having cellphones | 11:45 |
| desrt | and the sats as being a cell network on mars | 11:45 |
| desrt | it's not so far from the truth | 11:45 |
| willcooke | :) | 11:45 |
| desrt | we got cellphones there | 11:46 |
| desrt | we got google *cough*earth there | 11:46 |
| desrt | we just need humans now | 11:46 |
| willcooke | I think they use X band which is ~ 9 Ghz | 11:46 |
| desrt | i'd have figured they would use something lower-frequency | 11:46 |
| desrt | but i guess when you don't have an atmosphere to worry about.... | 11:47 |
| mitya57 | Is there at least one Ubuntu installation on Mars? | 11:52 |
| desrt | probably not | 11:53 |
| * desrt wouldn't trust linux up there :) | 11:54 | |
| mitya57 | I know that ISS has Debian 6 | 11:54 |
| desrt | ISS is another story | 11:54 |
| desrt | there are humans there to press ctrl-alt-del if things go wrong :) | 11:54 |
| jpds | mitya57: More likely Red Hat. | 11:58 |
| mitya57 | Because mars is red? | 11:59 |
| willcooke | Because of the on-site support package | 12:00 |
| * desrt digs into inotify, again | 12:04 | |
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| seb128 | bah, there is something wrong sometimes after updates in vivid | 12:36 |
| seb128 | like I get regular polkit prompting for standard action like adding user datas to accountsservice, or if I try to reboot | 12:37 |
| seb128 | seems like also things like suspend inhibit stop working (my laptop suspended on lid close during lunch which it's not supposed to do) | 12:37 |
| seb128 | I wonder if that's a systemd thing, I didn't notice it before using it | 12:37 |
| seb128 | or it's a vivid issue that started around the time I switched init | 12:38 |
| seb128 | didrocks, pitti, ^ did you read about/see such issues? | 12:38 |
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| pitti | seb128: when I switch users I sometimes see a polkit dialog about "changing user properties" when I switch back to my user; that might be related? | 13:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, not sure, I've not switched user and that was after upgrade | 13:34 |
| pitti | seb128: I haven't seen that one yet; the above is closest to what you describe that I've seen before | 13:35 |
| pitti | seb128: that sounds like logind is crashing or doesn't survive the restart | 13:35 |
| seb128 | yeah | 13:36 |
| pitti | seb128: if you can reproduce it with "sudo systemctl restart systemd-logind.service", that would confirm this | 13:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, trying that in a bit and letting you know | 13:36 |
| seb128 | do we restart logind on upgrade with upstart as well? | 13:37 |
| seb128 | or is that when systemd is updated? | 13:37 |
| pitti | seb128: no, I don't think we did that | 13:40 |
| pitti | in general it's better to restart daemons on package upgrades to apply bug fixes, and it should work for logind | 13:40 |
| pitti | we don't restart journald because that does cause breakage | 13:40 |
| pitti | but I restart logind all the time; it keeps its state in /run, so restarting it should be fine | 13:41 |
| pitti | "should": how it's meant to work -- not "bugs like the above" don't happen :) | 13:41 |
| seb128 | right | 13:42 |
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| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| seb128 | pitti, restarting logind is not what creates the issue | 14:01 |
| pitti | seb128: ack; I do that quite often and haven't seen those effects | 14:05 |
| pitti | seb128: if you are able to recreate such a situation, "loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID" might be interesting -- i. e. not active or no Display or whatever | 14:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, going to do that next time I see the issue | 14:07 |
| seb128 | I don't have it atm, I tried to restart logind or to dpkg -i the deb from today's systemd update, no luck | 14:07 |
| willcooke | nearly meeting time already | 15:28 |
| willcooke | qengho has no IRC | 15:29 |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop Weekly Meeting - 2015-01-13 | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jan 13 15:30:24 2015 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:30 |
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| willcooke | Roll call: attente_, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, FJkong, happyaron, Laney, larsu, mlankhorst, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark | 15:30 |
| didrocks | hey | 15:30 |
| willcooke | I have updates from TheMuso, tkamppeter. Robert_ancell is out at linuxconf. | 15:30 |
| larsu | g'day | 15:30 |
| dgadomski | hello everyone, happy new year | 15:30 |
| Sweet5hark | heya | 15:30 |
| willcooke | qengho is having IRC issues right now, so we will probably need to skip him | 15:31 |
| seb128 | _o/ | 15:31 |
| willcooke | We have a few announcements today | 15:31 |
| FJKong | hello | 15:31 |
| willcooke | First of all, dgadomski is going to be sitting in our meetings so we can keep in touch with him better. Welcome to the gang (again) :) | 15:32 |
| happyaron | hi | 15:32 |
| dgadomski | thanks willcooke :) | 15:32 |
| seb128 | hey dgadomski ;-) | 15:32 |
| dgadomski | seb128 o/ | 15:33 |
| FJKong | oh welcome again XD | 15:33 |
| willcooke | Secondly, we have a slight re-jig of work focus for seb128, Laney and larsu. We can talk about that as we get to each of them in turn. | 15:33 |
| willcooke | So let's start the ball rolling with attente_ | 15:33 |
| willcooke | #topic attente_ | 15:33 |
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| happyaron | wow, :) | 15:33 |
| willcooke | I think I saw a merge for relative positioning inside Mir? | 15:33 |
| desrt | i saw a branch... | 15:34 |
| willcooke | ah, kk - so some progress in the right direction at least | 15:34 |
| willcooke | When I spoke to attente_ last week he said he'd solved a few of the tool bar issues he was having too | 15:35 |
| willcooke | or maybe it was yesterday | 15:35 |
| willcooke | meh | 15:35 |
| attente_ | fixed the hover-over-parent-menu issue, waiting for merge https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/mir-fix-menubar-mouseover/+merge/245874 | 15:35 |
| attente_ | mostly got blocked on https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1409133 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1408593 | 15:35 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1409133 in mir (Ubuntu) "Heavy black flickering in mir_demo_server" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:35 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1408593 in xorg (Ubuntu) "X server disables acceleartion or turns off output (makes screen black) after kernel upgrade to v3.18 (Ubuntu Vivid)" [High,Confirmed] | 15:35 |
| willcooke | congrats on the fix :) | 15:35 |
| willcooke | attente_, can someone help unblock you on those others? | 15:36 |
| Laney | bleh | 15:36 |
| Laney | I never find out about ubuntu-desktop MPs | 15:36 |
| Laney | want to get those on the sponsoring queue | 15:36 |
| attente_ | duflu was helping with https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1409133, but still not sure where the problem lies | 15:37 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1409133 in mir (Ubuntu) "Heavy black flickering in mir_demo_server" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:37 |
| seb128 | attente_, that xorg issue, did you try the 3.19 kernel from the kernel team ppa? | 15:37 |
| attente_ | 1408593 is ok now. just had to boot a newer kernel | 15:37 |
| attente_ | seb128: yeah | 15:37 |
| attente_ | seems to be fixed upstream | 15:37 |
| seb128 | attente_, k, I see a similar issue, apw asked me to try the ppa | 15:38 |
| seb128 | 3.18 shows plymouth and then no vt/greeter | 15:38 |
| seb128 | booting 3.16 works | 15:38 |
| attente_ | yeah, same problem | 15:38 |
| attente_ | i'm using 3.19.0-031900rc3-generic | 15:38 |
| seb128 | cool | 15:38 |
| willcooke | oki, thanks attente_ | 15:39 |
| desrt | pick me! pick me! | 15:40 |
| willcooke | next up its................ | 15:40 |
| * desrt waves hand | 15:40 | |
| willcooke | #topic desrt | 15:40 |
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| willcooke | you win | 15:40 |
| desrt | awesome | 15:40 |
| desrt | not much to report | 15:40 |
| desrt | got finished with a huge round of changes to mount monitors last week (ongoing thread safety battle), waiting for reviews | 15:40 |
| desrt | working on file monitors now -- have already accomplished quite some nice improvements in the inotify code and progressing onto the frontend GFileMonitor code | 15:41 |
| willcooke | nice | 15:41 |
| desrt | we already lost the 1 second delay on any reported event | 15:41 |
| desrt | so now events are reported immediately when they happen (but we still ratelimit further reports after the first to once every 800ms, by default) | 15:41 |
| desrt | i guess that will be wrapped up by the end of this week | 15:42 |
| desrt | everyone seems pretty keen on ripping some of that ancient crap out, so i guess i won't have trouble finding reviewers -- alex already volunteered to do some tomorrow | 15:42 |
| willcooke | excellent | 15:42 |
| desrt | that's all for me | 15:42 |
| willcooke | thanks desrt | 15:42 |
| willcooke | *cough* travel booking *cough* | 15:42 |
| desrt | it's done | 15:43 |
| willcooke | O_o | 15:43 |
| desrt | or at least it should be | 15:43 |
| mlankhorst | what about the hotel? :P | 15:43 |
| desrt | there was a wrinkle where the travel agent didn't understand that 1982-05-03 means may 3 | 15:43 |
| desrt | but that's sorted now | 15:43 |
| willcooke | HA! | 15:43 |
| desrt | didn't do the hotel, though. thanks for reminding :) | 15:43 |
| seb128 | 1982? | 15:43 |
| desrt | also didn't get the train done yet | 15:43 |
| larsu | desrt: let me know when you do that, so that we can go together | 15:43 |
| desrt | since i just got told today that it would be better if i did that myself | 15:44 |
| willcooke | hotel for FOSDEM & Mir sprint is being sorted by msm | 15:44 |
| larsu | Laney might come as well?! | 15:44 |
| desrt | larsu: i'm going on thursday evening on account of the systemd hackfest on friday | 15:44 |
| larsu | desrt: same | 15:44 |
| desrt | larsu: laney is going on friday | 15:44 |
| willcooke | this is Cambridge right? | 15:44 |
| larsu | ah, okay | 15:44 |
| Sweet5hark | yep, msm has a spreadsheet for fosdem | 15:44 |
| desrt | yes | 15:44 |
| desrt | we're actually supposed to sort cambridge for ourselves | 15:44 |
| willcooke | ah, yeah | 15:44 |
| larsu | right, I was about to ask you :) | 15:44 |
| desrt | the hotel there doesn't do 3rd party bookings, apparently | 15:44 |
| willcooke | you should be able to do it online | 15:44 |
| Laney | who else is going to CBG? | 15:45 |
| larsu | \o | 15:45 |
| Laney | interesting | 15:45 |
| desrt | small crowd | 15:45 |
| Laney | get an airbnb and I'll come say hi? :-) | 15:45 |
| larsu | good idea! | 15:45 |
| desrt | Laney: you should definitely pop up for a few days and say hi | 15:45 |
| willcooke | I might rock up and spoil lunchtime for you guys one day | 15:45 |
| larsu | party \o/ | 15:45 |
| seb128 | Laney, CBG? | 15:45 |
| desrt | willcooke: also absolutely welcome | 15:45 |
| desrt | seb128: cambridge | 15:45 |
| larsu | seb128: cambridge | 15:45 |
| seb128 | what is in cambridge? | 15:46 |
| larsu | desrt: youowemeabeer | 15:46 |
| desrt | larsu: beer, yada yada | 15:46 |
| seb128 | the hackfest? | 15:46 |
| desrt | yes | 15:46 |
| larsu | desrt: we spend too much time together. | 15:46 |
| seb128 | oh ok, I though it was at fosdem | 15:46 |
| Laney | there's this weird tradition amongst some geeks of referring to places by their train station's code | 15:46 |
| desrt | larsu: i actually hate this beer thing. we should stop that. | 15:46 |
| Laney | kind of like portland = PDX | 15:46 |
| desrt | Laney: that's the airport... | 15:46 |
| larsu | desrt: agreed. Walked by a museum last night that you might like | 15:46 |
| mlankhorst | oh right need to check up on the spreadsheet | 15:46 |
| Laney | yes that's why it's kind of like it and not exactly | 15:46 |
| mlankhorst | but I'm going to drive anyway :P | 15:47 |
| desrt | larsu: took a picture last night that you might like :) | 15:47 |
| willcooke | oki, let's move on | 15:47 |
| willcooke | #topic dgadomski | 15:47 |
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| larsu | desrt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Museum_of_Technology | 15:47 |
| dgadomski | In the 'desktop-related department' it was only: | 15:47 |
| dgadomski | - debugging power-management issues related to bug #1104230 | 15:47 |
| dgadomski | - there is also a bluetooth problem (no lp yet), I would appreciate a bluetooth expert's help with analyzing some logs after putting them to the lp bug. Is there a bluetooth-focused person in the team I could talk to? | 15:47 |
| dgadomski | EOF | 15:47 |
| ubot5 | bug 1104230 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "DisplayPort 1.2 MST support is missing in the Intel driver" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1104230 | 15:47 |
| willcooke | @bluetooth - hrm, maybe didrocks ? | 15:48 |
| meetingology | willcooke: Error: "bluetooth" is not a valid command. | 15:48 |
| didrocks | hum, not really an expert :p | 15:48 |
| willcooke | shut up meetingology | 15:48 |
| didrocks | especially with pre-bluez5 | 15:48 |
| Laney | cyphermox is the man | 15:48 |
| didrocks | yeah, definitively | 15:48 |
| willcooke | nicely done | 15:48 |
| desrt | larsu: https://imgur.com/5vtMpEW | 15:48 |
| dgadomski | thanks guys, I will talk to him | 15:48 |
| cyphermox | hello | 15:49 |
| Laney | as if by magic | 15:49 |
| larsu | desrt: hahaha! best part is "chemtrail girls" | 15:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, speaking of pre-bluez5, what's the new version status? | 15:49 |
| willcooke | #topic didrocks | 15:50 |
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| seb128 | dgadomski, he's not in our team anymore but maybe try cyphermox | 15:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: nothing changed since, but wait my turn :) | 15:50 |
| didrocks | which is now! | 15:50 |
| didrocks | Ubuntu Make: | 15:50 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 15:50 |
| didrocks | * Shape and opened MIR for default package inclusion of jayatana (java appmenu integration). Waiting for a review. | 15:50 |
| dgadomski | thanks seb128, I will | 15:50 |
| didrocks | * Get Ubuntu Make to install it for older release and in the Ubuntu Make ppa. | 15:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it's your turn ! :p | 15:50 |
| didrocks | * Get back creds and will inspect the vm state next wekk. | 15:50 |
| didrocks | Systemd: | 15:50 |
| didrocks | * Converted a bunch of package to systemd: bootmail, daemontools, pollen, radosgw-agent, mcollective-server-provisioner, auto-upgrade-testing, zram-config, mythbuntu-bare, ceilometer, | 15:50 |
| didrocks | * Modification to invoke-rc.d: enable successfull upgrading of upstart-only package under systemd. Ensure as well that disabled services are not started after upgrade (systemd only or systemd + upstart packages). | 15:50 |
| didrocks | * Reread and update the systemd transition wiki page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers) for Thursday and Friday's sprint. | 15:50 |
| didrocks | Misc: | 15:50 |
| didrocks | * Helped FJkong on the unity kylin dash file search. | 15:50 |
| didrocks | * Reviewed fcitx MIR. Still some work needed. | 15:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: it wasn't technically when you pinged me ;) | 15:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: so, robert started to work on the indicator and u-c-c before the EOY holidays | 15:50 |
| seb128 | those are the only remaining blockers? | 15:51 |
| didrocks | he put that in a state and I don't think he wants to go on | 15:51 |
| didrocks | so quite unsure | 15:51 |
| FJKong | thanks didrocks so much :) | 15:51 |
| didrocks | FJKong: yw ;) | 15:51 |
| didrocks | apparently, it's way more work than he thinks it was about | 15:51 |
| seb128 | k | 15:51 |
| seb128 | do we have anyone in the team with spare cycle to work on that? | 15:52 |
| didrocks | I don't know those code, I can dive into it, but that will be in replacement of other stuffs | 15:52 |
| seb128 | larsu, not interested to hack on gnome/indicator bluetooth client code? ;-) | 15:52 |
| desrt | seb128: he's too busy facilitating other bluetooth hackers by adding a 'wait' mode to the gdbus commandline tool | 15:52 |
| didrocks | larsu: no CSS involved! | 15:52 |
| larsu | seb128: sure | 15:52 |
| seb128 | g-c-c migrated to bluez5 so I guess u-c-c work is mostly backporting work they did | 15:53 |
| seb128 | the indicator is vala | 15:53 |
| seb128 | which should be fine for you | 15:53 |
| larsu | who's the original author? Charles? | 15:53 |
| seb128 | desrt, ;-) | 15:53 |
| seb128 | no, Robert | 15:53 |
| didrocks | larsu: I can give you pointers to robert's initial work on the porting | 15:53 |
| larsu | seb128: ok, cool | 15:53 |
| larsu | didrocks: yes please | 15:53 |
| seb128 | larsu, didrocks, thanks | 15:53 |
| didrocks | will do after meeting :) | 15:53 |
| didrocks | thanks seb128 :) | 15:54 |
| larsu | desrt: just thought about that for 2 minutes after reading that bug report | 15:54 |
| desrt | larsu: you know you want to... | 15:54 |
| larsu | desrt: I definitely don't want to dive into that code :P | 15:54 |
| desrt | larsu: but seriously, one thought on that topic: i'd rather you mutate the existing gdbus tool into something nice rather than start from scratch and have yet another tool | 15:54 |
| desrt | the existing one isn't going anywhere -- too many people are using it in scripts and such | 15:55 |
| larsu | desrt: right, I was thinking this as well which is why I stopped my thing after the prototype | 15:55 |
| desrt | and you can tell apart the two usecases fairly easily: just count the number of '--' on the commandline. if you see more than 12 instances of it, assume it's using the old syntax :) | 15:55 |
| larsu | haha | 15:56 |
| willcooke | shall we move on to FJKong ? | 15:57 |
| willcooke | yes | 15:57 |
| willcooke | we shall | 15:57 |
| willcooke | #topic FJKong | 15:57 |
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| FJKong | ok my turn | 15:57 |
| FJKong | fix bug: when switch between window input method will apply more memory | 15:57 |
| FJKong | fix bug: change strategy of loading skin from memory, reduce memory using | 15:57 |
| FJKong | fix error output when init sogou im first time. | 15:57 |
| FJKong | tesing stability of candidate version | 15:57 |
| FJKong | in processing: ubuntukylin new feature discussing and researching, advice to integrate all to one powerful planform, | 15:57 |
| FJKong | oh I need mention dash searching thing also, thanks to didrocks | 15:58 |
| FJKong | eof | 15:58 |
| willcooke | thanks FJKong | 15:58 |
| willcooke | #topic happyaron | 15:58 |
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| willcooke | he was here a moment ago | 16:00 |
| willcooke | skipping on to Laney in 30..... | 16:00 |
| happyaron | back.. | 16:01 |
| willcooke | ha! | 16:01 |
| happyaron | 1. Continued work on sogoupinyin QA integration: first-choice hit ratio test | 16:01 |
| happyaron | 2. Tried to bring up fcitx MIR again (updated some packages), but sorry there's remaining problems | 16:01 |
| happyaron | 3. Prepare for new release of sogoupinyin | 16:01 |
| happyaron | over | 16:01 |
| willcooke | thanks happyaron | 16:01 |
| happyaron | :) | 16:01 |
| willcooke | #topic Laney | 16:01 |
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| willcooke | So news then.... | 16:02 |
| willcooke | Laney will be driving more of the Gnome work, taking over from seb128 | 16:02 |
| willcooke | at least partially to start with, and more and more as we go forwards | 16:03 |
| willcooke | seb128 will be working a bit more on the U8 desktop | 16:03 |
| seb128 | "taking over" is a bit strong, the work has been team handled for a long time ;-) | 16:03 |
| willcooke | fair point :) | 16:03 |
| seb128 | I intend to still help/look at what is going on there, just spend less time on it and focus more on the unity8 side | 16:03 |
| Laney | "laney will be looking at the error tracker from time to time" | 16:04 |
| willcooke | :) | 16:04 |
| seb128 | lol | 16:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks ;-) | 16:04 |
| Laney | :P | 16:04 |
| Laney | actually I tried to use it today and couldn't get results | 16:04 |
| Laney | so yeah | 16:04 |
| seb128 | wfm, listing weekly top issues by serie at least | 16:05 |
| Laney | that bit works, it's when you want to change the view | 16:05 |
| Laney | especially searching by package | 16:05 |
| Laney | anwyay | 16:05 |
| didrocks | Laney: and bugs! | 16:05 |
| Laney | status report? | 16:05 |
| seb128 | ah, k, mention it to bdmurray I guess | 16:05 |
| didrocks | Laney: look at all the desktop bugs! | 16:05 |
| Laney | bah, those things | 16:06 |
| Sweet5hark | some wants to grids through a large set of bug reports? | 16:06 |
| willcooke | (door, brb) | 16:06 |
| * Sweet5hark lurks out from under his stone | 16:06 | |
| Laney | we should hire a bug master again | 16:07 |
| Laney | right, you guys, I'm pasting this thing now | 16:07 |
| Laney | so we can continue with our lives sooner | 16:07 |
| Laney | • New gtk3.0 in vivid, in dep wait on adwaita-icon-theme MIR, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adwaita-icon-theme/+bug/1410174 | 16:07 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1410174 in adwaita-icon-theme (Ubuntu) "[MIR] adwaita-icon-theme" [Undecided,New] | 16:07 |
| Laney | • New releases of evolution (e-d-s, -mapi, -ews), webkitgtk (building atm), gstreamer (including package split in ugly for phone peeps), file-roller (finish up dialogs-no-header patches & upload to vivid) | 16:07 |
| Laney | • SRU gvfs to utopic for some crash fixes | 16:07 |
| Laney | • Upstream patches for gtk (showing an empty combo in file choosers), glib (crash in the network-manager network monitor) | 16:07 |
| Laney | • DMB elections coming up, send around a draft timetable | 16:07 |
| Laney | • finish up libical transition | 16:07 |
| Laney | • sysvinit typo fix (not complete, sorry & thanks pitti for following up), discover floodlight autopkgtest failure due to that, looked like a bug in dpkg (depends not being configured before dependee), bisect dpkg, file https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774873, after analysis from Guillem (thanks!) it turned out to actually be a circular dep chain in java stuff. Hoping java dudes can figure out the best place to break that. | 16:07 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 774873 in openjdk-7-jre-headless "Circular dependency in java-headless packages" [Serious,Open] | 16:07 |
| Laney | 😻 | 16:07 |
| Laney | my emoji didn't work here :( | 16:07 |
| * didrocks looks at his MIR list to review and cry… | 16:08 | |
| Sweet5hark | Laney: it did here! | 16:08 |
| didrocks | shaking first at Laney to add one more :p | 16:08 |
| Laney | \o/ | 16:08 |
| willcooke | (back) | 16:08 |
| willcooke | I see | 16:08 |
| willcooke | I go away for 30 seconds and cats appear | 16:09 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: you were declare the bug master in absense IIRC ... | 16:09 |
| * willcooke marks all as invalid. Done. | 16:09 | |
| * didrocks gives a script to willcooke to do that | 16:09 | |
| willcooke | another one to add to my collection. | 16:09 |
| willcooke | :D | 16:09 |
| seb128 | Laney, emoji worked in my xchat-gnome | 16:09 |
| willcooke | oki, thanks Laney | 16:09 |
| Laney | well good, glad you all got to appreciate it :) | 16:10 |
| willcooke | #topic larsu | 16:10 |
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| willcooke | MOAR NEWS | 16:10 |
| didrocks | Laney: not here, give me my money back! | 16:10 |
| * larsu waits for willcooke | 16:10 | |
| willcooke | Larsu has finished the (vast majority) of the theme work, and so has paid his debt to society | 16:10 |
| willcooke | so good news is that he'll be spending more time with the Gtk Mir work | 16:11 |
| larsu | ya | 16:12 |
| larsu | still on some theming stuff | 16:12 |
| larsu | trying to get rid of unico (the focus ring is the only missing part, which is solvable but tricky, because we only want it on some widgets) | 16:12 |
| larsu | otherwise bamf now detects apps by looking at _GTK_APPLICATION_ID as well | 16:13 |
| seb128 | nice! | 16:13 |
| didrocks | \o/ g-t \o/ | 16:13 |
| larsu | (thanks to Trevinho for helping me a bit there) | 16:13 |
| seb128 | does that fix the firefox loosing icon issue? | 16:13 |
| Sweet5hark | cool | 16:13 |
| larsu | seb128: no. I briefly looked into that but didn't know enough about bamf | 16:13 |
| larsu | seb128: I can have another look if marco doesn't find the time (he said it's next on his list) | 16:14 |
| larsu | didrocks: ya, that's the main reason ;) | 16:14 |
| willcooke | thanks larsu, would be great to see that fixed | 16:14 |
| seb128 | larsu, let it to Trevinho, I was just curious if that was the same issue | 16:14 |
| larsu | ok | 16:14 |
| larsu | it's a different one | 16:14 |
| Laney | there's still a handful of 3.14 issues to fix too | 16:14 |
| larsu | ya | 16:14 |
| * larsu knows :( | 16:14 | |
| Trevinho | larsu: I'll check it not too shortly btw, as the item biefore is quite big | 16:14 |
| * Laney hugs larsu | 16:14 | |
| Trevinho | larsu: have you find anything useful about that firefox thing btw? | 16:15 |
| larsu | there was also a bug with my icon-resizing patch which I MR'd | 16:15 |
| larsu | some apps that use GtkUIManager for menus had empty images next to menu bar items | 16:15 |
| larsu | if show-icons was set, which apparently some desktops (and some people on unity) do | 16:16 |
| larsu | Trevinho: no, sorry. It was just a brief look. I have the same problem for my gnome-terminal profile fwiw | 16:16 |
| Laney | oh ya, you should get someone to review that upstream | 16:16 |
| larsu | desrt: ^^ | 16:17 |
| larsu | ;) | 16:17 |
| desrt | terminal profile creation? | 16:17 |
| larsu | I think that's the important points from me this week | 16:17 |
| Laney | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742181 | 16:17 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 742181 in Theme ""show images in menus" causes weird padding outside GNOME" [Minor,Unconfirmed] | 16:17 |
| larsu | desrt: can you review the patch on that ^ bug please? | 16:18 |
| larsu | didrocks: thanks ;) | 16:19 |
| larsu | willcooke: done. | 16:19 |
| willcooke | thx larsu | 16:19 |
| willcooke | #topic mlankhorst | 16:19 |
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| mlankhorst | fixing rotation with optimus configs, bug 1410238 and bug 1405325 - uploaded to vivid. | 16:19 |
| mlankhorst | skipping vt switch on suspend with the nouveau and radeon drivers | 16:19 |
| ubot5 | bug 1410238 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Utopic) "Rotating external display with optimus results in corruption" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1410238 | 16:19 |
| ubot5 | bug 1405325 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Trusty) "[I+N] Split screen after setting the monitors configuration to extended" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1405325 | 16:19 |
| mlankhorst | finally fixing a ton of bugs with xmir and egl, input suport unavailable for now. Finally works correctly with the android drivers. | 16:19 |
| mlankhorst | repeatedly pinging #ubuntu-release about lts-utopic without much success. :/ | 16:19 |
| mlankhorst | ^D | 16:19 |
| didrocks | mlankhorst: you should start pinging individual people from the SRU team | 16:20 |
| mlankhorst | yeah.. | 16:20 |
| willcooke | how about Laney ? ;) | 16:20 |
| Laney | NOPE | 16:20 |
| Laney | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sru/+members | 16:20 |
| mlankhorst | it needs to be sru admins too.. | 16:20 |
| willcooke | ahh | 16:20 |
| pitti | Laney: oh, thanks for analyzing the floodlight problem! | 16:21 |
| Laney | np | 16:21 |
| willcooke | mlankhorst, enjoy your days off! | 16:22 |
| Laney | it pricked my suspicious spidy sense | 16:22 |
| willcooke | #topic qengho | 16:22 |
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| willcooke | qengho is having IRC issues, so is probably not around | 16:22 |
| willcooke | his update is: | 16:22 |
| willcooke | * had some luck with attaching chromium to mir. Needs more work. | 16:22 |
| willcooke | so moving in the right direction | 16:22 |
| willcooke | #topic seb128 | 16:23 |
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| seb128 | hey | 16:23 |
| seb128 | • spent some times watching the news while working... | 16:23 |
| seb128 | • backported cairo segfault fix to trusty | 16:23 |
| seb128 | • handled gpg key replacement in the Debian keyring (a bit more complicated because I didn't do it before holidays and they expired my old key so I needed somebody else to sign the request) | 16:23 |
| seb128 | • reviewed e.u.c current top issues, spotted some upstream fixes worth backporting, commented on bugs/pinged some people about those/uploaded some others | 16:23 |
| seb128 | • tested/backported some translation fixes to rtm | 16:23 |
| seb128 | • landed unity-settings-daemon oem fix for mic mute key (SRU still to do) | 16:23 |
| seb128 | • helped a bit on the sponsoring queue | 16:23 |
| seb128 | • usual share of desktop related bugs triages and discussions | 16:23 |
| seb128 | </week> | 16:23 |
| willcooke | thx seb128 | 16:23 |
| willcooke | #topic Sweet5hark | 16:23 |
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| Sweet5hark | not much beyond the usual stuff: | 16:24 |
| Sweet5hark | - bumped LibreOffice 4.4 to rc2 in -prereleases | 16:24 |
| Sweet5hark | - walked through all the internal libreoffice deps, where we are currently | 16:24 |
| Sweet5hark | using an internal copy for MIRs and sync galore (seb128 knows details, ongoing) | 16:24 |
| Sweet5hark | - prepared 4.2.8 SRU for trusty | 16:24 |
| Sweet5hark | - (4.3.4 SRU for utopic still in queue unapproved) | 16:24 |
| Sweet5hark | - travel stuff, board stuff ... | 16:24 |
| Sweet5hark | - excited to see LibreOffice running from the Ubuntu Phone ;) | 16:24 |
| Sweet5hark | EOF | 16:24 |
| willcooke | thx Sweet5hark | 16:24 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 16:24 |
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| willcooke | tkamppeter is out, so update is: | 16:24 |
| willcooke | - system-config-printer: Fixed SRU package for Trusty to remove wrong | 16:24 |
| willcooke | dependency. | 16:24 |
| willcooke | - Contacted HP and Brother for continuation of IPP-over-USB testing. | 16:24 |
| willcooke | Brother waiting for fix by hardware development and has also a different | 16:24 |
| willcooke | printer on which they are testing now, HP will continue soon. | 16:24 |
| willcooke | - Bugs. | 16:24 |
| willcooke | #topic themuso | 16:25 |
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| willcooke | * Started looking into testing Gtk on Mir with a11y stack, still working out what I need to get things going. | 16:25 |
| willcooke | * Started looking at bug # again, due to OEM reasons, and think I may have a better idea of what is going on this time around. | 16:25 |
| willcooke | * Discussion with HWE about some backports relating to pulseaudio, newer kernels, and trusty. | 16:25 |
| willcooke | #topic Any other business | 16:25 |
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| willcooke | $USUAL_REMINDER_ABOUT_TRAVEL_BOOKINGS | 16:25 |
| willcooke | Oh, fun seasonal update: it's not dark yet. | 16:26 |
| willcooke | this is good | 16:26 |
| seb128 | it is here | 16:26 |
| seb128 | well, almost | 16:26 |
| seb128 | it's not really day anymore at least | 16:26 |
| willcooke | soon it will be summer again :D | 16:26 |
| willcooke | and we can take our meetings outside | 16:27 |
| Laney | I think I'll be closing the blind in about 12 minutes | 16:27 |
| Laney | given rate of endarkening | 16:27 |
| Sweet5hark | dark here :( | 16:27 |
| desrt | super-bright, eurosuckers! | 16:27 |
| didrocks | seb128: go to a nice city! | 16:27 |
| willcooke | haha | 16:27 |
| seb128 | my ubuntu phone says "sunset: 16:57" | 16:27 |
| Sweet5hark | desrt: ha1 | 16:27 |
| desrt | you guys waste all of your sunlight while i'll still sleeping | 16:27 |
| willcooke | okay, thanks everyone. | 16:27 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jan 13 16:27:56 2015 UTC. | 16:27 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-01-13-15.30.moin.txt | 16:27 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:27 |
| willcooke | desrt, please email me some sunshine | 16:28 |
| Laney | the other day someone was talking to me about a nice meal they had outside last summer | 16:28 |
| willcooke | actually, fax it | 16:28 |
| Laney | "holy shit I remember now, that can happen and will happen again" | 16:28 |
| willcooke | Keep the faith Laney | 16:28 |
| Sweet5hark | desrt: dont let larsu to talk into some Berlin tech museum: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Museum is the place to go. | 16:28 |
| larsu | Sweet5hark: doesn't have the hands-on / experiments area that I was alluding to | 16:29 |
| Sweet5hark | larsu: hmm, IIRC they have something like that too ... | 16:29 |
| desrt | willcooke: take 1 minute ago, for you: http://i.imgur.com/4SjIGMw.jpg | 16:30 |
| larsu | Sweet5hark: oh reall? Cool. Then the only problem left is that it is in Munich | 16:30 |
| Sweet5hark | larsu: admittedly that is a problem. | 16:30 |
| larsu | desrt, willcooke: took that a minute ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black | 16:30 |
| * didrocks had the same photo, but without the snow | 16:30 | |
| larsu | desrt: don't make me miss TO | 16:31 |
| desrt | lots of nice things in that photo -- you're looking at humber bay west, for the most part | 16:31 |
| desrt | you can see the humber river pedestrian bridge at about 1/4 to 1/3 away across the image from the left | 16:32 |
| desrt | CN tower is visible pretty close on the right | 16:32 |
| desrt | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humber_Bay_Arch_Bridge <-- love this bridge | 16:32 |
| desrt | larsu: i hear we're having a canadian sprint soon -- you can come back :) | 16:34 |
| larsu | desrt: we are? | 16:34 |
| desrt | ya. i uh.. *cough*heard a rumour | 16:34 |
| didrocks | or is it like a light pressure you are trying? :) | 16:34 |
| willcooke | :D | 17:08 |
| seb128 | hum, the kernel from proposed fixes my "no display" issue, but gives a wrong screen resolution | 17:09 |
| seb128 | back on the old kernel meanwhile then | 17:09 |
| sil2100 | mitya57: so I'm almost done with the review of the systray branch, looks good so far | 17:22 |
| sil2100 | mitya57: in one version of appmenu-qt5 I also implemented similar AppMenuPlatformMenuItem's amd AppMenuPlatformMenu's, but then dropped that for a more hacky but optimal solution | 17:23 |
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| willcooke | qengho, did you get connectivity sorted? | 18:41 |
| willcooke | qengho, when you do get back online please see email and reply when you can. Cheers! | 18:52 |
| * willcooke -> EOD | 18:52 | |
| cyphermox | kenvandine: hey! | 18:55 |
| kenvandine | hey cyphermox | 18:55 |
| cyphermox | how are you? | 18:55 |
| kenvandine | good, and you? | 18:55 |
| cyphermox | pretty good | 18:55 |
| kenvandine | i saw you proposed a branch | 18:56 |
| cyphermox | I got you another bluetooth system-settings fix ;) | 18:56 |
| cyphermox | hehe | 18:56 |
| cyphermox | it mimicks other things gnome-bluetooth does, the applet has its own agent, and the wizard registers one too, one of the two is adapter-wide | 18:57 |
| cyphermox | so it's pretty much the same thing; until we possibly more the adapter-wide agent to the indicator in the future | 18:57 |
| kenvandine | sounds like a good move | 18:58 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, any bug it fixes? | 18:58 |
| kenvandine | or just a general improvement | 18:58 |
| cyphermox | general improvement more than a bug it fixes | 18:58 |
| cyphermox | there are some bugs, that's why I'd prefer if seb could test it too with his car | 18:58 |
| cyphermox | but it does generally improve pairing | 18:58 |
| kenvandine | any idea why the CI test failed? | 18:58 |
| cyphermox | commit message | 18:58 |
| cyphermox | ;) | 18:59 |
| kenvandine | oh... right :) | 18:59 |
| kenvandine | cool | 18:59 |
| cyphermox | I had set it up early to have mandel have a first quick look before I'd propose it for merging to trunk | 18:59 |
| kenvandine | no... it's more than that | 19:00 |
| kenvandine | 18:50:32.791 ERROR testresult:44 - ERROR: ubuntu_system_settings.tests.test_reset.ResetTestCase.test_reset_launcher | 19:00 |
| kenvandine | sounds unrelated though | 19:00 |
| cyphermox | oh, I missed it then, sorry | 19:00 |
| * kenvandine crosses fingers and clicks rebuild | 19:00 | |
| xclaesse | seb128, ubuntu vivid still has gedit 3.10, what's blocking the new UI to be integrated in ubuntu? Never tried it, so I don't know if it's full of regressions, or something. | 19:16 |
| xclaesse | I see gnome-terminal got upgraded finally, cool :) | 19:16 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, new gtk was needed to update it, that landed not long ago, so I guess gedit is going to be looked at next | 20:52 |
| xclaesse | seb128, ok thx | 20:55 |
| * desrt sinks one notch deeper into the rabbit hole | 21:00 | |
| desrt | seb128: i'm at the point where i'm wondering why a certain piece of code exists and finding bugs that you opened in 2008 | 21:00 |
| seb128 | desrt, nice, which ones? ;-) | 21:00 |
| desrt | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520484 | 21:01 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 520484 in trash backend "gvfsd-trash crashed with SIGSEGV in g_path_is_absolute()" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] | 21:01 |
| desrt | nevermind that i rewrote the trash backend since then since it was a crashing leaking disaster all around anyway | 21:02 |
| desrt | that's when we were hanging out in mountain view... rickspencer3 time :) | 21:02 |
| seb128 | hehe | 21:03 |
| * desrt is pretty sure this is no longer an issue *cough* | 21:04 | |
| * desrt deletes code with fingers crossed | 21:04 | |
| seb128 | yeah, that's probably resolved since | 21:07 |
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