[02:30] hello everyone [08:32] good morning === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon|lunch === rmescandon|lunch is now known as rmescandon === Mojo is now known as Guest20681 [15:49] hello [15:50] hi everyone [15:50] hello and welcome everyone - we're going to start in 10m! :) [15:51] sup [15:56] Hi [15:59] * Frisian is waiting :) [15:59] !ping [15:59] yes? === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-on-air to: Welcome to Ubuntu on Air! || Upcoming Schedule: http://is.gd/OWD4uc || Ask your questions at ubuntuonair.com || Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/UbuntuOnAir || Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: http://youtube.com/UbuntuOnAir || Current Session: Community Team Q&A - Speakers: mhall119, dpm, popey, balloons, dholbach [16:00] o/ [16:00] Logs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/01/13/%23ubuntu-on-air.html following the conclusion of the session. [16:00] hi everyone [16:01] * Frisian says: Ah, IRC... haven't used that for more than 10 years [16:01] I can see you! [16:01] o/ [16:01] ok, starting [16:01] :) [16:01] we see you [16:01] \o/ [16:01] thanks for confirming! [16:01] yes its working [16:01] Oh, God, those laughs just fitted so much with the song I had [16:02] Quit [16:02] brilliant [16:02] if you have questions, please prefix them with QUESTION: [16:02] keep them coming [16:02] we're going to reply to them one by one [16:02] QUESTION: is there going to be any kind of global menu in unity 8? [16:03] what is this? [16:03] Anyone tested the rtm v13? [16:04] always_the_same: I'm on it [16:04] with my nexus 4 [16:04] so far no problems [16:04] always_the_same: I'm on v13 [16:04] QUESTION: are X and GTK applications going to be usable at least on the desktop with Unity 8, so that we can use programs like LibreOffice at least on the desktop? [16:05] Great, i'm flashing it right now ! === jiraffe is now known as Guest14143 [16:05] QUESTION Will there be more details released for the bq phone before it is released and will there be any form of preordering? [16:05] @vitimiti yes. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Touch-Can-Now-Run-X-Org-Apps-Like-LibreOffice-469753.shtml [16:06] Question : after a long wait when can we expect the launch of an ubuntu touch phone ? === Guest14143 is now known as little_fishr [16:06] :D [16:06] TuxBob, well, that's great, thanks [16:06] vitimiti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfMLzlki9XE [16:07] mhall119, thanks, I'm watching it :) [16:07] QUESTION can one of you play a song for us :D [16:08] QUESTION: Will there be an equivalent to wmctrl for controlling windows programatically once Mir is the default? [16:08] TuxBob: a lot of the Unity 8 desktop design decisions havne't been made yet [16:08] #ubuntu-unity [16:08] People, why nexus 4 still has the vibration always on? Even I disable it in the system settings ? [16:08] TuxBob: it's pretty safe to assume it'll be like unity 7, unless you're told otherwise [16:09] How do you spell it, Will Cook? [16:09] Kernel Q: any soon support for focal tech drivers for touchpad [16:09] vitimiti: cooke [16:09] Thanks, mhall119 [16:09] That is support question, aways_the_same, please ask some where else. [16:09] willcooke: <-- that guy [16:09] what's new so far with utouch? is convergense arround the corner or still far off? [16:09] I love how you guys pronounce my nickname [16:10] QUESTION: is there a place for community members interested in security to assist? === justCarakas is now known as Hippopotomonstro [16:10] QUESTION can you pronounce http://carakas.be/gedichten/2015/Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliofobie [16:10] oops shouldnt be a link : [16:10] question : can u give some good links of tutorials for starting making apps for ubuntu touch ? [16:10] Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliofobie === Hippopotomonstro is now known as justcarakas [16:11] QUESTION: when will we have MIR hardware acc support in proprietary drivers like nvidia and AMD [16:11] yoanncooljazz: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/tutorials/ [16:11] wat [16:11] in a meeting, will read in a mo.... [16:12] thanks mhall119 !! === detrix42 is now known as detrix042 [16:14] Can somebody tell me these people's names Pope just talked about? I don't know how to spell them [16:16] QUESTION: Are u using the nexus4 to run ubuntu on your smartphone? [16:16] command line tool to interact with an EWMH/NetWM compatible X Window Manager. The tool provides command line access to ... [16:17] imnichol, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved [16:17] jdstrand mdeslaur [16:17] QUESTION: can we have wobbly windows on Unity8? [16:17] imnichol, ^ [16:18] dpm, thanks [16:18] [QUESTION] Bq will have a stable version of ubuntu. And the Nexus 4? Will have the same version on the same day of bq? [16:19] →→→→ http://developer.ubuntu.com ←←←←← [16:20] thank u very much...sorry for redondance [16:20] [Question] what's new so far with utouch? is convergense arround the corner or still far off? [16:21] QUESTION: David, there's a light on over your head. Are you having an idea? :) [16:21] Any soon support for focaltech touchpad drivers? [16:22] QUESTION are there plans to make the browser able to handle .click files [16:23] QUESTION: Are there any updates to the HTML5 api? [16:24] channels: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/ [16:25] QUESTION: is there a way to compile QML to binary so that apps load faster? [16:26] QUESTION : sorry seems I didn't follow the protocol : soon support for focaltech touchpad drivers support [16:28] thank you! i have a n5 and have an hdmi adaptor. i guess since its not one of the primary i have not gotten convergence. or must i run it via terminal? [16:30] Found this in regards to my earlier question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/301076/wmctrl-on-ubuntu-touch [16:30] little_fishr: there's some preliminary support to pre-compile QML scene graphs, yes, our SDK developers are evaluating it [16:30] [QUESTION] Can we expect, this year, a RTM channel for the nexus7 2013? [16:31] thanks mhall119 [16:31] QUESTION why can't i just download something from the browser if there isn't an app registered for it [16:31] without wget [16:32] justcarakas: there needs to be something that can do something with the file [16:32] I suppose that it might be possible to register a "click://" URI scheme with the system like "apt://" is currently [16:33] re: focaltech: does http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgwNzE help? [16:33] justcarakas: Ideally the File Manager will be able to provide a "if nothing better is available" option in the future [16:33] just like it provides for opening files [16:34] mhall119: I wanted to download an epub, and the file manager didn't catch it [16:34] QUESTION: what will happen with Ubuntu Store and Ubuntu Software Center? will we have both of them on Ubuntu Next? [16:35] justcarakas: right, the author of Beru is trying to get an EBook content type added to Content-Hub, which would allow that to "just work" for you [16:35] mhall: also beru isn't regsitered for it and since I cant paste in the console I had problems because it was a long url [16:35] ok th [16:36] justcarakas: I've also recommended to the Beru author that he use Content Hub without a specific file-type to open files, but that is going to require he add some smart handling for when the user gives it something that isn't actually an ebook [16:36] so,it's possible, there's a couple of solutions, both just require work [16:36] Thanks guys :) [16:36] oki, glad that its being worked on :) got me rather frustrated :) [16:37] question: would it possible to make easier for webdevelopper to install their work environment (i mean node.js compass angularjs.....) by for exemple having them in software manager ? [16:37] justcarakas: yeah, it's growing pains, but it'll be fixed [16:37] yoanncooljazz: you probably don't want those in the archive, because they won't get feature updates [16:38] yoanncooljazz: but, didrocks in #ubuntu-devel is working on something called "Ubuntu Make", which is exactly where you want that kind of thing [16:38] ah i understand but the process to instal all this is always so long [16:38] yoanncooljazz: Ubuntu Make simplifies it [16:38] ok i will check this ubuntu MAke right now [16:38] thx a lot [16:39] thanks guys! [16:39] QUESTION: What happened with the HUD? Will it return? [16:39] I hope soon [16:39] but the plan is to bring it back, yes [16:40] yoanncooljazz: You might want to take a look at something like ansible [16:40] ansible ? [16:40] * mhall119 would love to load up HUD actions for his app [16:40] did we miss any questions up until now? [16:40] [questiom] i own a moto 360, amy plans on smart ware support? [16:42] Thanks a lot Alan Pope ! ubuntu make is what i need [16:42] QUESTION will we get something like apt-get that will still allow us to automatic update the image [16:43] QUESTION: Will Ubuntu Touch ever get finished? :p [16:45] https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/ [16:45] justcarakas: what do you mean "automatic update"? [16:45] Nephatiu, like all programs and OSes, nothing will be finished. There will be always something new to add or a bug to be fixed. Everything will be always a work in progress. [16:45] Nephatiu: softare is *never* finished ;) [16:46] i once heard that you couldn't get the OTA updates of the image if you used apt-get [16:46] because the image is than writable [16:46] justcarakas: yeah, you have to pick which update method you want to use, you can't use both [16:47] QUESTION: is Unity8 themable? [16:47] great question [16:48] belkinsa, mhall119: I mean 'get out of testing' by 'finished'. ;p Like working on most Android devices, since it runs on a cm-version to the particar phone drivers don't seem so limiting... [16:52] [Question] [16:52] Hi guys [16:52] QUESTION is this the last question ? [16:53] for ubuntu-france we are charlie ! [16:53] * dholbach hugs justcarakas [16:54] oh snap, popey dunks on qmail [16:54] Nephatiu: porting to other android devices is independent of the state of Ubuntu Touch [16:54] ian-weisser rocks! [16:55] yes :) [16:55] http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/find-a-task/ [16:55] mhall119: I can see that, but isn't that actually a limitation which you apply to yourselves? Since it could be more universal? [16:56] As it needs an Android underneath, couldn't it get it's data from there? [16:57] Any Ubuntu team or project can advertise a volunteer role. [16:57] Nephatiu: the way we've built it, the Android layer is separate from the Ubuntu layer [16:58] the Ubuntu layer doesn't prevent porting the Android layer to other devices, it's just a matter of finding people to do it [16:58] And conversion isn't possible? [16:58] we had a porting guide that has gotten very out of date, but we're going to be updating that in the near future [16:58] Nephatiu: porting is definitely possible [16:58] it just takes work [16:58] it's no different than Cyanogen [16:58] mhall119: That was another thing I was going to bring up, yes. [16:58] If you could do that, I'd take a shot, but at this time it's depricated... [16:58] Every device Cyanogen supports had to be created by somebody [16:59] popey, don't worry, I'm not Andrew ;) [16:59] bye [16:59] thanks dholbach, dpm, popey! [16:59] That was fun! [16:59] thanks! [16:59] big hugs - thanks everyone! [16:59] Thanks :) [16:59] thanks everyone! [16:59] I missed a lot =\ [16:59] s/Andrew/Daniel [16:59] Thanks to you, guys [17:00] yeah, but before you flash touch, you need a CM version, and isn't CM quite universal in it's upper layer? So couldn't Touch get it's data from cm, convert it to it'ss own data and then run it? === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-on-air to: Welcome to Ubuntu on Air! || Upcoming Schedule: http://is.gd/OWD4uc || Ask your questions at ubuntuonair.com || Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/UbuntuOnAir || Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: http://youtube.com/UbuntuOnAir || [17:01] Nephatiu: I don't know too much about porting, so I can't say [17:01] Nephatiu: you can ask in #ubuntu-touch [17:02] k, thx for answering, though. ;) [17:02] And get someone to update that guide. ;D [17:28] i had a virtual machine (windows) installed in ubuntu. Now , i rebooted ubuntu and lost all my data. Somehow, got back that partition with the data that was in ubuntu OS. But , now I want my VM''s data too. How I am gonna get that back ? Is it stored in some partition in ubuntu only , if then where to look for it ? [17:29] hola desde Chile [18:44] which is best desktop environment ? :P [19:04] oh darn I missed it [19:04] :( [19:28] QUESTIONS Is there a planned support for projects like Miracast? === popey_ is now known as popey