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pngo_I can ssh login via terminal, but can not via thunar );00:29
pngo_before ubuntu re-installation I had no problems with thunar00:30
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lotuspsychjegood morning04:38
lotuspsychjeyou guys read this yet:04:38
lotuspsychjehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/meizu-announce-triple-boot-ubuntu-phone-month04:38
nhainesNope.  What's it about?04:42
nhainesAlso, Betteridge's law of headlines says "no".04:42
lotuspsychjewell like always is meizu confusing users04:43
lotuspsychjewe can only hope 1 of the three Os will be ubuntu touch04:43
lotuspsychjewhat do you think?04:43
nhainesIt's possible.04:45
lotuspsychjeim almost sure that Bq phone will be sold out right away for tha price04:45
lotuspsychjeimagine all the users using ubuntu04:46
nhainesWe'll have to see.  It's hard to predict these kinds of things.04:46
nhainesAll I know is that I'll get to hold one soon.04:46
lotuspsychjeyou reserved one?04:47
nhainesNo, but aside from other various plans in the works, I'm going to grab aquarius's at SCALE.  :P04:48
lotuspsychje:p04:48
nhainesBut I expect my Nexus 5 to be featured at the Ubuntu booth at SCALE. :P04:48
lotuspsychjeim curious if they changed alot on the inside, other then you guys developed it04:48
nhainesThat's up to the OEMs.04:49
lotuspsychjethey have their own developers right04:49
nhainesHardware and software engineering are orthagonal, though.04:51
nhainesbq (and probably Meizu) are paying Canonical to do the hardware enablement.04:51
lotuspsychjeah i see04:51
lotuspsychjehow come canonical cant reveal stuff then<?04:52
lotuspsychjethey must know already whats gonna happen with what company04:52
nhainesBecause no software vendor of any platform is allowed to do so.04:53
lotuspsychjeright04:53
nhainesThe OEMs work with carriers, and jointly they make the announcements.  Never the software vendors (who are under NDA).04:53
lotuspsychjeim planning to start a repair/ubuntu store soon something like system76 with ubuntu machines in my country04:55
lotuspsychjedo i have obligations to canonical?04:55
nhainesYou're going to have to discuss it with Canonical I'd imagine.04:56
lotuspsychjekk04:56
ramsramboHi! I wanna install ubuntu on my MTV Slash Swipe telecom tablet with MT8389 CPU on it06:56
ramsramboIs it possible?06:56
lotuspsychje!devices | ramsrambo06:59
ubot5ramsrambo: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices06:59
dholbachgood morning08:32
ranveerhi08:35
ranveerhow to create a rom for a phone?08:35
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Skeptics Day! :-D09:34
nhainesSounds like my kind of day!09:35
nerochiaroondra: good morning, can you please ping me when you have a minute ?09:38
nhainesSo I updated my phone from ubuntu-rtm/14.09 r12 to r13, and now there's no sound device detected.09:47
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davidcalleHello all, I'm having an MMS issue : can send, can't receive. Any idea where to start debugging that?11:07
mandeldavidcalle, there are several daemons that take care of that, one is nuntium and the other one is udm11:07
mandeldavidcalle, can you grab the logs for both of them, the should both have it in the system logs dir11:08
davidcallemandel, so, udm log is at /var/log/ubuntu-download-manager/ubuntu-download-manager.INFO , but where is the nuntium one?11:18
davidcalleudm -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9728346/11:18
mandeldavidcalle, AFAIK it is started by upstart11:18
davidcallemandel, right, I wasn't looking in ~/.cache : here it is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9728436/11:24
mandeldavidcalle, looks like there is one of the fields from the mms format that is not correctly decoded by nuntium, if you show me the logs from udm (uploader) I can take a look to see if it was indeed sent (or at least uploded)11:27
mandeldavidcalle, udm just does a http request, qhen changing to wap we need to read the feedback in nuntium.. we need sergiusens to take a look at what is going on exactly, he was the poor soul that read the specification11:28
davidcallemandel, uploader logs : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9728486/11:34
mandeldavidcalle, as fas as I can see the issue is reading the push notification in the nuntium side, can you file a bug with the logs and the information of you service provider? It is very very important to add the service provider information since each of them has implemented mms in a diff way (hurray for standards!!!!)11:36
mandelsergiusens, ^^11:37
davidcallemandel, odd thing is that MMS with that sim worked fine a few weeks ago. sergiusens, which specific logs do you need for that bug report?11:38
davidcalle(...or maybe I just *thought* they worked fine :) )11:38
davidcallethanks mandel11:41
mandeldavidcalle, well, is client code, someone could have change something in the server.. it is weird, but could happen11:41
mandeldavidcalle, would be nice to know if those messages ever got back, and maybe log the 200 response from the server (yes, they do send a response as a 200 even if it is an error and it is emebded as html)11:42
davidcallemandel, oh my. What I know for sure is that, since last week receiving an mms from someone else or myself is consistently failing (when it's from me, it's marked as sent on the phone and visible on the sent mms history from the service provider).11:49
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davidcalleWorks on Android.11:50
mandeldavidcalle, yet, the mms is not received in the other side, correct? That looks like we are nto parsing the 200 with the error correctly in the nuntium side11:50
mandeldavidcalle, either we are screwing up with the formatting to the mms or something of the kind11:50
* davidcalle is doing one more test with a benevolent co-worker.11:54
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davidcallemandel, so, just confirmed that sending works fine. Receiving (or the moment I'm supposed to receive) doesn't trigger anything new in the nuntium log.12:13
mandeldavidcalle, ok, you have to wait for the push notification to grab the mms.. might take some time12:14
mandeldavidcalle, not too long, but some time12:14
davidcallemandel, ok, I'm keeping tail -f nuntium.log running anyway.12:14
mandeldavidcalle, perfect12:15
mandeldavidcalle, while we wait, I'll have lunch :)12:15
davidcallemandel :)12:15
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davidcalleAfter 1h, I guess it's safe to say that nuntium has failed to notice these mms (no new log).13:04
davidcallemandel, sergiusens ^13:08
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jgdxabeato, hi, how does mtksettings behave when the sim/modem does not offer umts?13:55
abeatojgdx, do you mean how it behaves for the slot that is just 2G?13:56
mandeldavidcalle, yes, is not getting it13:57
jgdxabeato, I mean if umts is lacking/not supported at all13:57
abeatojgdx, in that case the property Has3G should not appear13:58
jgdxabeato, great. +113:59
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cwaynewhy isn't timezone set automatically by location?14:03
nomanxhello all14:03
danrikwhat does ubuntu-touch do for data syncrhonization?14:07
danrikI mean - where is data going to be stored?14:07
danrikWould there be an option to sync to user-owned data storage?14:08
mandelkenvandine, I need to delete that merge proposal and do a new one, I hope is not a big issue14:18
kenvandinemandel, no problem14:18
pete-woodscan anyone help me with my store uploads14:21
jgdxkenvandine, new libqofono debs fixed nailed it. However, it will require a (sensible) change to all users of the ofono manager.14:21
jgdxs/fixed/14:21
pete-woodsI'm getting an error "New version: 1.0.18-134 (missing upload) on 2015-01-13 14:20 - 0 minutes ago"14:21
pete-woodsthis is if you dig into the feedback tab14:21
kenvandinejgdx, great!14:22
kenvandinejgdx, so we need a code change in settings?14:23
jgdxkenvandine, seems so. manager.modems is not prepopulated.14:26
kenvandinejgdx, bummer, so uploading libqofono will break settings...14:27
jgdxyes14:27
kenvandinei guess i need to add a Breaks: ubuntu-system-settings << blah14:27
jgdxindeed14:28
kenvandinejgdx, what's the exposure like?  just 2 plugins right?14:28
jgdxkenvandine, privacy, about, cellular, phone14:28
jgdxso four14:28
kenvandinejgdx, can you prepare the fix?14:29
jgdxkenvandine, yeah, but should we not use a shared component for this?14:29
kenvandinethis is going to make it much harder to land the fix in rtm... but it's a must14:29
kenvandinejgdx, you mean our own wrapper for manager?14:30
jgdxkenvandine, not exactly. A component that creates the libqofono bindings we need. Right now that's done per plugin.14:32
jgdxbut that'll be an overkill for e.g. about, since it does not need more than one or two bindings, as opposed to cellular which needs tons14:32
kenvandineyeah, i don't think we should optimize for API breaks14:33
kenvandinethis shouldn't be common14:33
mterryrickspencer3, in bug 1409003, you say you can't reproduce anymore with image 190.  Have you had any "luck" since filing with reproducing it?14:33
ubot5bug 1409003 in Ubuntu system image "receiving an sms while roaming and suspended renders the phone difficult to use on resume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140900314:33
kenvandinejgdx, and i guess the actual break is the fix for the issue you were looking for :/14:34
kenvandineso not worth patching it out14:34
rickspencer3mterry, no, no one can reproduce it, including me14:34
jgdxkenvandine, what do you mean 'patching it out'?14:35
cwayneElleo: got launching cutespotify from scope working :)14:43
Elleocwayne: awesome :)14:44
Elleocwayne: it'd be cool to have your spotify scope aggregated in the music scope, is that planned?14:45
cwayneElleo: unsure, good idea though14:45
Elleocwayne: I'm going to try and figure out why the URI handler stuff isn't getting called if cutespotify has to be launched first at the weekend, which should make that more useful too14:46
cwayneElleo: i wonder if we could package both app and scope in one click.. it'd be fun to try as the app's cpp and the scope's go :)14:46
cwayneElleo: awesome14:46
Elleocwayne: I'd certainly be cool with that14:46
seb128mterry, rickspencer3, that bug, I see regularly a similar one, not sure it's the same issue, but phone doesn't resume when pressing the power button, it takes some 10-15s and it's really slugish15:05
rickspencer3seb128, right, so I think that is different15:05
rickspencer3seb128, I think what happens there is that apps are shutting down and don't get quite enough time to finish their work before the phone suspends15:06
ogra_seb128, do you have a custom wallpaper for the lock screen ?15:06
rickspencer3so when you resume, they all race to finish their work15:06
rickspencer3I believe this is being fixed15:06
ogra_iirc there were issues with scaling down the image which causes slowness on resume15:06
seb128ogra_, yeah, but a small one and it's not happening in a consistant way15:06
ogra_ah, k15:06
seb128the screen doesn't turn on for 15 seconds and when it does there is the power down dialog15:07
seb128and I often can't unlock15:07
seb128it's like the phone was in a busy loop15:07
ogra_weird, i never have that15:07
seb128even when I manage to unlock it's slugish15:07
seb128I've that like every other day15:07
seb128rickspencer3, I doubt it's it, I often have no app running or used in the past day15:07
seb128rickspencer3, I mostly use my phone as a phone, e.G just sms and calls and that happens sometimes when I didn't use anything since I booted it15:08
* ogra_ shakes his head ... 15:08
seb128it usually happens when I'm outside though, not when home15:08
ogra_... as a phone ... lol15:08
seb128ogra_, :-)15:08
rickspencer3seb128, does that happen when you are away from home?15:08
ogra_:)15:08
seb128yes15:08
rickspencer3seb128, does it happen when you are at home?15:09
seb128no15:09
seb128as I just wrote15:09
seb128<seb128> it usually happens when I'm outside though, not when home15:09
seb128but I don't need to receive smses for it to happen15:09
rickspencer3seb128, ok, so I think that what you have there is the Location Service/Network Manager bug that tvoss fixed15:09
ogra_did these QtNetworking changes ever make it in ?15:09
seb128rickspencer3, oh ok, is that on a rtm image yet?15:09
rickspencer3seb128, yes, quite recently, but not a promoted image, I think15:10
rickspencer3seb128, it was when I was testing that fix in a silo last Friday that I ran into the mysterious vanishing sms issue15:10
seb128rickspencer3, I'm using r18815:10
seb128rickspencer3, http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-rtm/188.commitlog suggests it has the nm fix?15:10
ogra_188 is definitely the last promoted one15:11
rickspencer3seb128, so you think you have the fix and you are still getting it?15:12
rickspencer3I was getting it solidly 100% of the time15:12
rickspencer3I am on r191 and never get it anymore15:12
seb128rickspencer3, r188 has the fix if I read correctly the url I just shared15:13
seb128and I got that bug today at lunch15:13
seb128so yeah, still getting it15:13
seb128to me the issue looks a bit similar to bug #140900315:13
ubot5bug 1409003 in Ubuntu system image "receiving an sms while roaming and suspended renders the phone difficult to use on resume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140900315:13
seb128expect I don't need to receive smses to have it15:13
ogra_https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/rtm-14.09-changes/2015-January/000996.html15:14
ogra_that is in 18915:14
rickspencer3seb128, if your phone settles after 10 or 15 seconds, then I think it's the "the system needs time to finish doing work before suspending" bug15:14
seb128ogra_, that change is a settings one to display the correct mac15:14
seb128ogra_, http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-rtm/188.commitlog is the nm fix15:14
ogra_right15:14
seb128"dbus daemon spinning with NM AP properties change event"15:14
seb128rickspencer3, which is weird, because that's a freshly booted phone that I didn't use15:15
seb128like there is no app running15:15
seb128but alright15:15
rickspencer3seb128, yeah, not sure it's app's tbh, not sure what it is15:15
seb128rickspencer3, in those cases it's normal that it takes > 10s for the screen to turn on and then that the shutdown dialog displays?15:15
rickspencer3seb128,  a lot of people are getting what you describe15:15
seb128k15:16
rickspencer3seb128, hmmmm, that sounds like much more like the "fixed" NM/Location issue15:16
seb128anyway, I'm happy to help debugging that one by providing info15:16
seb128if anybody is interested feel free to ping me15:16
seb128rickspencer3, I mentioned it because it looked a bit like the bug you asked about earlier15:16
rickspencer3seb128, thanks15:16
rickspencer3seb128, I'm not trying to dismiss your concerns, at all15:16
seb128rickspencer3, I've the nm fix, so either that doesn't work or there is another similar issue15:16
rickspencer3just trying to slot it into my mental model15:17
rickspencer3seb128, yeah15:17
rickspencer3it could be that I just had bad luck, and the sms thing was a coincidence15:17
rickspencer3and since then I've had good luck, since I don't get the issue so bad15:17
seb128I get that issue several times a week15:17
seb128I'm going to try to look at the dbus traffic next time15:17
rickspencer3but I definetly get the issue where I turn on the phone, the power dialog is there, and it is hard to dismiss because the phone feels busy15:18
rickspencer3seb128, that would be awesome15:18
seb128the issue is that I usually get it outside when I don't have my laptop with me to adb to the device15:18
rickspencer3of course, it happens when you need to use your phone, if you are anythink like me15:18
seb128rickspencer3, do you know if there is a bug open about the busy/power dialog issue?15:18
seb128yeah, today it happened at lunch when I wanted to call somebody :p15:19
rickspencer3mterry, ^ ?15:19
rickspencer3seb128, for some reason, I think mterry is on it15:19
mterryseb128, there are a couple bugs...15:19
seb128mterry, hey, ok, I'm regularly getting one of those, so if you need debug info I can try to get some ;-)15:20
seb128just let me know15:20
mterryseb128, bug 1383277 or bug 1409003 might be relevant to you15:20
ubot5bug 1383277 in Canonical System Image "Power dialog sometimes shown on resume" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138327715:21
ubot5bug 1409003 in Ubuntu system image "receiving an sms while roaming and suspended renders the phone difficult to use on resume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140900315:21
mterryseb128, I am having a hard time reproducing myself.  I can sometimes get it to happen on my everyday phone, but when I try with a test phone, no luck15:21
mterryseb128, which version are you on?15:22
seb128mterry, r18815:22
mterryOK, that's the latest promoted one, I believe?  k15:22
mterrythat also implies krillin I think?15:22
mterryI've been trying to reproduce on mako15:23
mterry(my dogfood phone is mako and is able to hit it)15:23
mterryseb128, what are your symptoms?  Does it involve an incoming text or call?15:23
seb128mterry, yeah, krillin15:23
seb128no, none of those15:23
seb128it usually involve being outside for some hours and wanting to text somebody or check what time it is15:24
mterryseb128, does it sound like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1383277/comments/20 ?15:24
ubot5Launchpad bug 1383277 in Canonical System Image "Power dialog sometimes shown on resume" [Critical,In progress]15:24
seb128I never get it when working/connected to the computer/at home15:24
ogra_when logged in via adb the phone doesnt suspend15:25
mterryseb128, do you get it disconnected from computer but still at home?15:25
seb128mterry, sort of15:25
mterryseb128, i.e. if you are on wifi and hanging out at home?15:25
seb128mterry, I don't think I noticed it at home no15:25
seb128could be when out of wifi range or something15:25
dholbachSaviq, could it be that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/+bug/1343263 is at large again?15:25
ubot5Launchpad bug 1333831 in unity-scope-click (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1343263 Search button has the wrong scope id" [High,Fix released]15:25
dholbachat least jounih mentioned this behaviour to me15:26
seb128mterry, usually for the it's "press the power button, nothing happens, press again wondering if the first press worked, get puzzled wondering if the phone ran out of battery, see the phone turning on with the shutdown dialog displayed"15:26
seb128mterry, like it takes > 10s to turn the screen on, and it usually has the power down dialog by then15:26
ogra_well ...15:27
ogra_the second press causes the dialo to appear15:27
seb128mterry, but I usually press several time the button so I'm unsure your on/off caase15:27
seb128next time I'm going to try to be patient and just press once and wait some 10s15:27
ogra_yeah15:27
ogra_i think the dialog behaves just fine ... the bug is the delay15:28
seb128right15:29
ogra_did you check /var/crash if it got files whose timestamps match your delay ?15:29
seb128no crash15:29
ogra_might be apport kicking in on resume and immediately eating all resources15:29
ogra_k15:29
rickspencer3ogra_, is there something that I could install on my phone that would make a log of what processes are taking up CPU at a certain time?15:38
rickspencer3it seems like:15:38
rickspencer31. we can only reproduce the bug in real life, we don't have lab conditions where we can trigger it15:38
ogra_well15:38
ogra_whatever you would install would have to keep the phone from suspend15:38
rickspencer32. we can't get info about what it is actually doing15:38
rickspencer3ogra_, arg15:39
mterryogra_, well the dialog shouldn't be showing....  The problem is that the delay seems to be blocking handling the "power button released" signal so the phoen thinks you were holding down the power button15:39
ogra_to be able to operate :)15:39
rickspencer3classic debugging of an issue in production15:39
ogra_yeah15:39
ogra_mterry, right, i just mean that the bug isnt in the dialog but in the phone behavior15:39
rickspencer3right, we need some way to find out what is keeping the phone busy on resume15:40
mterryogra_, right -- the last issue like this that I fixed was in unity8's event handling, but not sure where this one lies yet.  Still can't reliably reproduce in lab conditions  :)15:40
ogra_yeah, i have never seen it at all15:40
ogra_and i used my phone for 4 weeks on the same image15:40
mterryogra_, lucky  :)15:40
rickspencer3I have to say, it's light years better now that the NM/Location issue is fixed15:40
mterryogra_, no need to brag  ;)15:41
rickspencer3that made my phone unusable15:41
rickspencer3I got into the habbit of turning it off before i left the house, and then turning it on again when I was out of range15:41
rickspencer3of my AP15:41
rickspencer3ogra_, so, there is nothing that can log processes that can be suspended when the phone suspends?15:42
ogra_well, we would have to integrate it with the lifecycle somehow15:42
rickspencer3hmmm15:42
ogra_so it gets stopped with suspend and immediately gets started on resume15:42
rickspencer3sounds like that might be a useful debugging tool15:42
rickspencer3ogra_, could we simply write an app that does that, and write an app armour profile that gives it necessary permissions?15:43
ogra_but if you run something like top from a script or some such i guess it would keep you awake if you dont integrate it with the lifecycle15:43
ogra_sure, would have to be unconfined etc15:43
rickspencer3ogra_, how hard would that be to write?15:43
ogra_i guess not harder than an other unconfined app :)15:44
rickspencer3ogra_, well, I don't know enough to write an app that runs top and makes a log, etc...15:44
rickspencer3do you think that's something you could write in an hour or so?15:45
rickspencer3or *cough* that someone could write?15:45
ogra_not atm, i'm fully swamped with snappy stuff atm15:45
* rickspencer3 nods15:45
dobeylogs processes that can be suspended, or logs processes that /were/ suspended?15:54
rickspencer3mterry, ogra_ so tvoss tells me that I can just use top in the terminal15:55
ogra_dobey, loges the cureent process state constantly ...15:55
ogra_hmm15:55
ogra_that *might* work, but will indeed onyl show you the state after you unlocked15:56
dobeyogra_: but it can't do that if it's suspended before other things get suspended?15:56
ogra_you want to know what happens before you unlock15:56
ogra_dobey, well, we need a snapshow of the processes between resume and unlock ...15:57
dobeyso i think it would have to be something outside the lifecycle15:57
ogra_*snapshot15:57
dobeyit would have to run when powerd gets the "resume" signal, and stop when the screen is unlocked, right?15:58
rickspencer3ogra_, oh? I thought we just wanted to know what was so busy after resume15:58
ogra_dobey, well, it can go on running15:59
ogra_important is that it starts as soon as the system resumes and takes top snapshots or some such15:59
dobeywell you need to know when the screen was unlocked in the log i guess, so you know where the breaking point is16:00
ogra_just dumping them to a log file every second16:00
seb128kenvandine, hey, was it really better to workaround that password entry mask issue in settings than fixing the sdk?16:10
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kenvandineseb128, it's debatable as to it even being a bug, it's more of a design thing16:12
kenvandinethe SDK doesn't directly provide it, it's from the Qt TextField16:12
kenvandinewhich behaves the same way16:12
seb128kenvandine, design/mpt clearly stated it's a bug on the mp16:12
seb128kenvandine, did you read his comment?16:13
kenvandinei think so :)16:13
kenvandineat one point i read them all... i also tested it without our sdk16:13
kenvandineand it did the same thing16:13
seb128hum, k16:13
mptDo you get a curse put on you if you change Qt code? ;-)16:13
kenvandinempt, no... of course not :)16:14
kenvandinempt, and i did re-open the sdk task16:14
kenvandinebecause i'd rather it be fixed in the sdk16:14
mptI saw that, thank you16:14
kenvandinebut until they agree, we worked around it16:14
kenvandineinconsistency bugs me... i really want to see it handled in the sdk16:14
kenvandinebut the debate went on long enough, so we jfdi16:15
mptI must have missed the debate … I don’t see anyone in the bug report claiming that it shouldn’t be fixed in the toolkit, at least16:18
kenvandinempt, the toolkit task got closed16:18
kenvandineand we had some chats on irc16:18
kenvandinepmcgowan, ^^  fyi16:19
mptOh, true. (I was confused by the later shuffling from the project to the package.)16:20
kenvandinepmcgowan, i'll defer the beating on this to you :)16:20
kenvandinempt, you can try to convince pmcgowan to bump the priority for the sdk :)16:21
pmcgowankenvandine, mpt no debate, just need to get to it16:22
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seb128tedg, hey, have you seen bug #1410176 ?17:08
ubot5bug 1410176 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service:11:volume_control_sink_info_cb_for_props:_volume_control_sink_info_cb_for_props_pa_context_sinkinfocb:context_get_sink_info_callback:run_action:pa_pdispatch_run" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141017617:08
* tedg looks17:11
tedgseb128, Pretty sure that's related to this Vala/Pulse bug, I have a work around in a branch that's in review. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74148517:13
ubot5Gnome bug 741485 in Code Generator "Captured variable struct missing ref" [Normal,Resolved: notgnome]17:13
seb128tedg, great, thanks17:13
seb128tedg, did you try the change Luca suggested on that bug to the pulse vapi?17:14
popeyricmm: is bug 1404302 on your radar?17:15
ubot5bug 1404302 in ust (Ubuntu) "liblttng-ust0 Error opening shm /lttng-ust-wait-5" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140430217:15
tedgseb128, I *think* so, but I'm not sure (before holiday). Much current on my system doesn't have it.17:15
tedgseb128, But honestly, I think that's just horrible defaults by Vala. Why would you assume a callback isn't async.17:16
tedgAnyway, tired of arguing it.17:16
seb128k17:17
tedgseb128, The work around isn't hard, you just have to not capture variables.17:19
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seb128tedg, well, I'm not picky on how we fix it, just decide on one way and get the fix submitted for review ;-)17:40
mandelkenvandine, is there a way to test the pausable downloads in an easy way? I remeber you had a script to follow17:42
kenvandinemandel, i just install old clicks17:45
mandelkenvandine, do you have a url of one so I can grab it?17:45
kenvandinemandel, sure... hang on17:51
kenvandinehttp://people.canonical.com/~alan/clicks/2014-10-28-204844/17:52
kenvandinemandel, i tend to grab a few from there17:52
mandelkenvandine, thx17:59
ogra_stgraber, was the addition of the "hidden" field in channels.json announced somewhere ?17:59
ogra_we just had quite some confusion with the channels vanishing18:00
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stgraberogra_: it's been there right from the beginning18:07
ogra_well, the hiding of the -proposed channels is new18:07
sergiusensogra_: --show-image for the channel should also work fine18:43
* kenvandine wonders how some of these tests ever passed19:03
kenvandinejgdx, on my rtm device, the about page tests are all failing because it was expecting a PageComponent19:04
kenvandineinstead of ItemPage19:04
kenvandineno idea how the vivid tests are passing!19:04
kenvandine-        if name == b'PageComponent':19:04
kenvandine+        if name == b'ItemPage':19:04
netlore-mobile13 seems better than 12 here at least19:04
kenvandinefixes the about tests on rtm... still puzzling how this passes on vivid!19:05
netlore-mobileI stopped using proposed last year because I wanted to make phone calls... . is it better now?19:06
dobeyhuh19:14
kenvandinepmcgowan, bingo!  the rtm test failures started with upower 0.99 transition... we need to sync python3-dbusmock to rtm19:17
kenvandinefor the dbusmock template19:17
kenvandinethe version in utopic and vivid includes a fix for a regression19:18
pmcgowankenvandine, awesome19:21
ahayzenHi, I have this issue on rtm mako where init and dbus-daemon are using in total ~10% CPU constantly...is there any way I can see what it is doing?20:16
pmcgowanahayzen, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingDBus#How_to_monitor_the_system_bus20:19
ahayzenpmcgowan, thanks20:19
dobeyoh my, where has all my battery gone20:20
pmcgowanahayzen, you could try running dbus-monitor right off I think20:20
dobeyand i don't even have wifi enabled right now20:20
ahayzenpmcgowan, lots of mtp stuff..."starting".."stopping"20:21
pmcgowanahayzen, definitely open a bug and add that data20:22
ahayzenpmcgowan, .... i'm using the terminal app as last time i plugged it in it stopped...20:23
pmcgowanahayzen, sure, interesting20:23
ahayzenpmcgowan, so i need to dump the output into a file first :)20:23
tvosspmcgowan, mind giving me backlog20:24
pmcgowantvoss, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9734780/20:24
tvosspmcgowan, thanks20:25
tvosspmcgowan, should we track on a separate bug?20:25
pmcgowantvoss, I think so20:25
mandelkenvandine, so.. udm was fix, the issue is that horrible three boolean state tracking code, cleaning that crap as we speak :-/20:25
tvosspmcgowan, okay, we can converge bugs if we find that they are related20:26
ahayzenpmcgowan, this was the output... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9734788/ ... which project do i report it against?20:26
pmcgowantvoss, what do you think ^^20:27
kenvandinemandel, oh, so part of the problem was in udm?20:28
mandelkenvandine, no no, talking with udm the memory management20:28
mandelkenvandine, and the tree bool state tracking20:28
kenvandineok20:28
mandelkenvandine, plus async calls and threads == lots of crap20:28
tvosspmcgowan, probably best to start with mtpd20:29
tvosspmcgowan, ahayzen https://launchpad.net/mtp20:29
ahayzenpmcgowan, interesting as soon as i unplug it, it goes back to the 10% cpu with init, dbus-daemon, mpdecision20:30
ahayzentvoss, thanks20:30
tvossahayzen, sure, thanks for reporting :)20:30
pmcgowanahayzen, that could explain some things, good find20:31
pmcgowanahayzen, please pass me the bug # when filed20:35
ahayzentvoss, pmcgowan, i've reported bug 1410506, if i find any more info/steps i'll add it to the bug20:35
ubot5bug 1410506 in mtp (Ubuntu) "MTP looping between start and stopping causing constant ~10% cpu load" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141050620:35
pmcgowangreat20:35
tvossahayzen, thx20:35
ahayzenpmcgowan, i wonder if its worth restarting and seeing if i can get it into the bad state again...20:35
pmcgowansure20:36
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ahayzenpmcgowan, ok managed to get it to happen again :)20:43
ahayzenpmcgowan, i'll double check and then add my steps to the bug20:44
pmcgowanawesome20:44
* ahayzen hopes it isn't random20:44
popey   /2320:48
popeybah20:48
ahayzenpmcgowan, i've updated the steps, do you think it matters which version of mtp is on the PC end?20:49
pmcgowanahayzen, it could20:51
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jgdxcyphermox, pmcgowan: bluetooth audio works well on krillin in my volvo, FYI. +++21:11
jgdxkenvandine, suddenly it started failing?21:12
kenvandinejgdx, still passes in vivid21:17
kenvandinebut afaict it shouldn't pass in vivid21:17
kenvandineit passes with my fix on rtm and it fails without my branch21:18
kenvandineso puzzling21:18
kenvandinejgdx, but... the real fix for the problem brendand hit was dbusmock in rtm21:18
kenvandinei have a sync from vivid prepared in silo 321:18
pmcgowanjgdx, nice21:21
jgdxkenvandine, what's up with dbusmock?21:28
colombeenhi guys, first time here... just wanted to know if there are any phones being developed atm with ubuntu phone os?21:28
kenvandinejgdx, the upower template had a regression21:28
jgdxkenvandine, oh21:28
kenvandinewhich was fixed in the version we have in utopic and vivid21:28
kenvandinebut never made it to rtm21:28
jgdxfun21:28
kenvandinetook a while to figure that out...21:28
jgdx!devices | colombeen21:29
ubot5colombeen: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices21:29
jgdxcolombeen, not sure that answers your question, actually.21:29
kenvandinethe logs do not really tell you that upower template was broken21:29
jgdxkenvandine, but services missing will be logged?21:29
jgdxor maybe it just failed silently?21:30
kenvandinejgdx, not missing...21:30
jgdxk21:30
kenvandinesignal emitted with wrong signature21:30
kenvandinenot logged21:30
kenvandinejgdx, what i don't understand is the AboutPage tests21:31
kenvandinehttps://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/about_page_test_fix/+merge/24635021:31
kenvandinejgdx, ^^21:31
kenvandineall the tests in test_about fail on rtm, because of that21:31
kenvandinebut they are passing on vivid... puzzling21:32
kenvandineweee21:32
kenvandinejgdx, woot... with silo 3 and silo 22 I get 100% AP test pass :)21:36
jgdxkenvandine, +1, though I still don't understand that piece of code.21:36
* jgdx dances21:36
jgdxbut then stops.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#cellular-connection21:36
jgdxmpt, ^ that's really hard to do21:44
pngo_how can I install calendar-app?21:46
pmcgowanpngo_, in the app scope search for it, go to the store and download21:48
colombeen!help21:48
ubot5Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:48
colombeen!commands21:48
ubot5The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal21:48
pngo_pmcgowan, how come pkcon install calendar-app is not working?21:49
pmcgowanwhats it doing?21:49
pngo_can not find package21:50
pmcgowanpngo_, its not installed by default, did you copy it over to the phone21:51
pmcgowanpngo_, easier to get it from the store21:51
pngo_pmcgowan, Im trying to stay away from store21:51
pmcgowanpngo_, do you have the .click for the app?21:52
pmcgowanpngo_, then do21:52
pngo_pmcgowan, not sure what .click is21:53
pmcgowanadb shell sudo -Hu phablet pkcon install-local  /pathtoclickonthephone21:53
pmcgowanoh21:53
pmcgowanits like a deb but different21:53
pmcgowanclick package for apps21:53
colombeenany phones that actually run ubuntu phone os like they should (completly working and without needing android on the device)? was looking on the page with devices but couldn't find what i was looking for (maybe i missed it)21:53
pmcgowancolombeen, we use the hardware device support from android only21:54
pngo_pmcgowan, how and where do I install .click?21:54
pmcgowancolombeen, there is a phone announced with an OEM coming out in europe soon21:54
colombeenpmcgowan, which company?21:55
colombeenhaven't seen this anouncement21:55
colombeenare you still there? pmcgowan?21:57
popey_colombeen: bq21:58
popey_colombeen: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/12/bq-ubuntu-phone-launches-in-europe-this-february21:58
nexus4userhi, i have Q21:58
nexus4userfollowing this guide   https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/ i've got an error  mkdir /root/.cache: permission denied ,pls help22:00
dobeypngo_: you can install the calendar app from the store scope22:03
rickspencer3is anyone up who can help someone with Ubuntu device flash?22:06
rickspencer3sergiusens, ogra_ if you guys are up around and have the time, nexus4user is having some trouble installing22:07
pmcgowannexus4user, what command did you run to flash22:09
sergiusensnexus4user: are you running as root?22:09
nexus4usernot anymore :D22:09
sergiusensnexus4user: run as a normal user and that will go away22:09
pmcgowannexus4user, you may want to use the stable channel22:10
dobeys/may/will/ :)22:10
pmcgowan:022:11
nexus4userwhat should I refer to as stable channel?22:13
pmcgowanubuntu-device-flash query --list-channels mako22:14
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pmcgowanchannel is ubuntu-touch/stable22:14
nexus4userthanks!22:17
nexus4usergoing to try it now22:17
nexus4userwill come back shortly with some feedback22:17
nexus4userhow long should it take22:18
ahoneybundepends on your internet speed nexus4user22:19
nexus4userit is fast :D I have already downloaded six archives22:20
nexus4userfrom devel22:20
dobeyall the files aren't 300 MB :)22:26
jgdxkenvandine, getting some test failures with the new libqofono, investigating22:40
kenvandinejgdx, ok23:01
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jgdxkenvandine, seems our mocking stopped working.23:17
jgdxkenvandine, I understand why, and fixed it.23:22
jgdxany libqofo object will not create a dbusinterface if it's not in the modem's list of interfaces. Which is exactly what will fix the 'dead' bindings we're seeing when removing/adding interfaces.23:24
jgdxbut when InterfaceChanged is sent from the modem, the binding will pick it up and start acting accordingly23:25
jgdxour mocks do not do this23:25
mandelkenvandine, please take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-pause/+merge/24636723:40
mandelkenvandine, but we need to move that logic to state machine, I'll do that asap23:40

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