| bduk | morning everyone | 04:29 |
|---|---|---|
| magespawn | good morning | 06:12 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 06:12 |
| octoquad | morning :) | 06:13 |
| Kilos | morning octoquad and othersa | 06:14 |
| Kilos | others too | 06:14 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 06:20 |
| Kilos | hi there inetpro | 06:21 |
| magespawn | Kilos: that was like other SA, but in shorthand | 06:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:23 |
| nlsthzn | Goeie more Suid Afrika | 06:55 |
| Kilos | morning nlsthzn | 06:56 |
| nlsthzn | how are you uncle Kilos ? | 06:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mornings | 07:02 |
| Kilos | im good ty nlsthzn and you? | 07:03 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 07:03 |
| nlsthzn | always good thanks :) | 07:04 |
| nlsthzn | got my mom visiting us here in sand land in preparation of the baby arriving in a few weeks :p | 07:04 |
| Kilos | cool | 07:04 |
| Kilos | when moms come visit even the food gets better | 07:05 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:05 |
| nlsthzn | web instability >.< | 07:06 |
| nlsthzn | or perhaps windows instability :/ | 07:06 |
| nlsthzn | 1.2 gb of ram just for firefox >.< | 07:07 |
| Kilos | whew | 07:08 |
| nlsthzn | all better again | 07:14 |
| Kilos | what was wrong | 07:15 |
| Kilos | and how did you fix it | 07:15 |
| Kilos | oh ya nlsthzn you can go add content | 07:15 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:15 |
| Kilos | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-za/bzr-tutorial/view/head:/pages/bazaar-tutorial.rst | 07:16 |
| nlsthzn | will go have a look in a bit... what is it btw? | 07:17 |
| Kilos | its our site that being repaired | 07:19 |
| Kilos | moved to static thing | 07:19 |
| Kilos | inetpro tell him | 07:19 |
| nlsthzn | ah ok | 07:24 |
| nlsthzn | sounds good :) | 07:24 |
| Kilos | mazal wb | 07:25 |
| Kilos | wat se jy nou | 07:25 |
| Kilos | welcome to kde land | 07:25 |
| mazal | Ja uiteindelik ne | 07:26 |
| mazal | Hou van hom , hy is net bietjie stadig | 07:26 |
| Kilos | ja dis bietjie swaarder maar kan meer doen | 07:26 |
| Kilos | oh gaan kyk hier | 07:26 |
| mazal | Still struggling to learn all the apps | 07:27 |
| mazal | But going well | 07:27 |
| Kilos | http://www.binarytides.com/better-kubuntu-14-04/ | 07:27 |
| Kilos | took me long to get used to it as well but now its my favourite os | 07:28 |
| mazal | lol , synaptic was die eerste ding wat ek gedoen het , sien hy is op daai lys ook | 07:28 |
| mazal | Hmm , interesting things in the link thanx oom | 07:30 |
| Kilos | ja maar jy mopet daai ekstra pak by sit | 07:31 |
| Kilos | die gtk op die einde | 07:31 |
| Kilos | synaptic is vir my baie beter as software centre | 07:32 |
| mazal | Wow the quick access thingy is cool :) | 07:39 |
| nlsthzn | konsole ftw | 07:43 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 07:50 |
| * inetpro fails to see why you need synaptic | 07:56 | |
| Kilos | because it be lekker | 07:56 |
| Kilos | better than muon package manager too which i see theyve left off | 07:57 |
| Kilos | it is a bit easier for us not so into cli commands inetpro | 07:58 |
| inetpro | what can be easier than cli? | 08:00 |
| Kilos | pictures | 08:00 |
| * inetpro never uses muon | 08:01 | |
| Kilos | hahaha | 08:01 |
| Kilos | and software centre? | 08:01 |
| inetpro | ai! | 08:01 |
| nlsthzn | still feel using terminal the fastest if you know what you want... if not then software center etc. becomes good to show choice | 08:03 |
| Kilos | its too slow the centre and synaptic shows better | 08:04 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 08:06 |
| Vince-0 | Good morn Kilos | 08:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: A new company has launched MTN data SIM cards which offer unlimited data for R149 per month http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/116726-r149-uncapped-mobile-data-sim-launched.html | 08:08 |
| Kilos | oh my | 08:09 |
| Kilos | @ 2mb/week i spose | 08:10 |
| Kilos | will look into it though | 08:10 |
| Kilos | they might have even gone lte here in the time ive been away | 08:11 |
| Kilos | wow inetpro further down | 08:19 |
| Kilos | He said they are planning to launch a similar service through Telkom Mobile, which will include unlimited mobile data, R50 airtime, and 10GB Wi-Fi access for R149 per month. | 08:19 |
| Kilos | so where does one get this new sim? | 08:22 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://www.datasim.co.za/product.html | 08:39 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no youtube allowed is 1 down side already for me | 08:40 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and no detailed list on their site about exactly what they block | 08:40 |
| * inetpro likes the idea of unlimited with no youtube | 08:42 | |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i wonder if that sim would support me connecting to my openvpn server at home :D | 08:42 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:43 |
| Kilos | i dont use youtube anyway | 08:43 |
| inetpro | they will probably block all forms of video | 08:43 |
| Kilos | tara has to get stuff for me there and email it to me | 08:43 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | if i can connect to openvpn then they can't block anything, they have no idea what i'm doing over an encrypted VPN :) | 08:44 |
| inetpro | yep, not sure how sustainable it will be because people will find ways around it | 08:44 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 08:44 |
| Kilos | skelms | 08:45 |
| inetpro | sad reality is that video is killing our limited bandwidth | 08:45 |
| Kilos | i dunno how they can sell it online though, what about all the rica rigmarole | 08:46 |
| inetpro | and there is a definite need for interwebs without video | 08:46 |
| inetpro | guess the only way is for bandwidth to cater for full video capabilities, bandwidth pricing simply has to come down | 08:48 |
| magespawn | they will have a fair usage policy on that | 08:55 |
| Kilos | inetpro with that kinda uncapped we can play minetest again | 09:02 |
| Kilos | will be more expensive for me though, as i now use a 2+1 for 2 months | 09:03 |
| Kilos | inetpro why you think they made synaptic and muon and software centre? | 09:35 |
| Kilos | lemme tell you | 09:35 |
| Kilos | for peeps that say whats sudo | 09:35 |
| Kilos | and many others too | 09:36 |
| * Kilos making lice to go with my cully | 09:39 | |
| inetpro | Kilos: you know sudo and you know aptitude, what more do you need to know? | 09:41 |
| Kilos | lol the rest that goes with it | 09:42 |
| mazal | I mostly use synaptic when I can't remember the package name | 09:42 |
| Kilos | aptitude instaal ?? is no good | 09:42 |
| mazal | Then cli is not an option , gotta go find the name first | 09:42 |
| Kilos | gotta know what you want to install | 09:42 |
| Kilos | synaptic rocks | 09:42 |
| mazal | I remember about 70% of them on a fresh install , but there is always a few that I forget | 09:43 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:43 |
| Kilos | first he nagged me for a few years to use kde now hes pushing cli all the time | 09:44 |
| Kilos | sigh | 09:44 |
| mazal | And , once two days ago cli didn't see the package even though I put the correct name | 09:45 |
| mazal | Then synaptic does the trick | 09:45 |
| Kilos | yip | 09:46 |
| Kilos | you gotta get the name exact | 09:46 |
| Kilos | he just sits and smirks. when i was all for gnome he nagged and since then nothing has changed | 09:52 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 09:52 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 09:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: you want some cheese with that whine? :p | 10:15 |
| Kilos | hee eee | 10:15 |
| Kilos | i like to rev the pro at times | 10:16 |
| Kilos | gussie strydom | 10:16 |
| inetpro | aptitude search rocks | 10:17 |
| inetpro | aptitude Search Term Reference http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html | 10:19 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:20 |
| Kilos | mazal that link was for you | 10:25 |
| mazal | Tried that now , doesn't work | 10:50 |
| mazal | Probably my syntex is wrong | 10:51 |
| inetpro | aptitude search '~ifirefox' | 10:51 |
| inetpro | that will search for all installed packages with firefox in the name | 10:52 |
| mazal | But how do you see one that is not installed , cos that's where the problem usually comes | 10:52 |
| inetpro | aptitude search '!~ifirefox' | 10:54 |
| mazal | The ! is the difference yes ? | 10:54 |
| inetpro | yep | 10:54 |
| mazal | Ok I see i and p infront of results. I assume i = installed and p = available but not installed ? | 10:56 |
| inetpro | yep | 10:57 |
| mazal | Why does this fail : | 10:58 |
| mazal | sudo aptitude search '!~ubuntu-desktop' | 10:58 |
| mazal | E: Unknown pattern type: u | 10:58 |
| inetpro | because u is not a known pattern type | 11:00 |
| Trixar_za | Because you need to use !~i before the name? | 11:00 |
| inetpro | :-) | 11:00 |
| mazal | By this time already found and finished installing what I wanted in Synaptic | 11:01 |
| inetpro | haha | 11:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so different strokes.... | 11:03 |
| Trixar_za | Generally it's the same kind of strokes that get the job done though | 11:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | it isn't a job for all of us | 11:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the who does DIY on weekends uses different tools and methods than the guy who's a prefessional joiner | 11:04 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | *"the guy who".... | 11:04 |
| Trixar_za | Hey now, women of negotiable affection need to make a living | 11:05 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | a person who does DIY on weekends uses different tools and methods than a person who's a prefessional joiner | 11:06 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | happy now Captain Political Correctness? :-P | 11:07 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 11:11 |
| inetpro | now even mage[tab] left | 11:11 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | phew between a local mirror and an SSD installing updates is insanely quick | 11:40 |
| * inetpro wants to set up a local mirror | 11:57 | |
| Kilos | where | 11:58 |
| Kilos | home or work | 11:58 |
| inetpro | not sure whether it's worth it though, irrelevant packages change way too often | 11:58 |
| inetpro | Kilos: definitely not at home | 11:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | we run debian mirrors in cpt and jhb so we can point our customers' servers there | 11:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and i point my laptop to it | 11:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so updates are work are a breeze | 11:59 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 12:07 |
| inetpro | hope we don't get more loadshedding | 12:07 |
| inetpro | we just experienced a bit of a dip here in Hatfield | 12:07 |
| mazal | Things are looking bad for us is something doesn't happen quick | 12:09 |
| mazal | I don't even want to read news anymore | 12:10 |
| inetpro | Power Alert: Electricity supply is under severe pressure.... Please continue to keep off all geysers, appliances, stoves and most lights. | 12:12 |
| mazal | Apparently they are bankrupt and can only go until February. They say that currently if something breaks at a plant it will take at least 2 weeks to fix. 2 WEEKS without power !! | 12:13 |
| Kilos | ai! | 12:52 |
| Kilos | inetpro build a mirror on a portable external man | 13:00 |
| Kilos | Maaz 620/19 | 13:04 |
| Maaz | Kilos: 32.6315789474 | 13:04 |
| inetpro | Kilos: they should allow you to get an updated mirror on at a public Freedom Toaster kiosk | 13:54 |
| * inetpro wonders whether these kiosks are even still around | 13:54 | |
| Kilos | i think those toasters all crashed because of no maitenance | 13:57 |
| Kilos | remember that guy used to maintain the pta one | 13:59 |
| Kilos | the guy that gave me the repos for 8.10 i think | 13:59 |
| Kilos | \or 9.04 | 13:59 |
| Kilos | not wasbeer? | 13:59 |
| Kilos | walter leibrandt | 14:01 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 17:21 |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee on | 17:21 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 17:21 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 17:25 |
| Kilos | evening nlsthzn | 17:34 |
| Kilos | Maaz botsnack | 17:34 |
| Maaz | YAY someone cares about me too! | 17:34 |
| nlsthzn | o/ | 17:34 |
| captine | evening all | 18:00 |
| Kilos | hi captine | 18:06 |
| magespawn | good evening | 18:31 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 18:31 |
| octoquad | lol I forgot about Maaz | 18:59 |
| octoquad | Maaz hello! | 18:59 |
| Maaz | Sup octoquad | 18:59 |
| octoquad | :) | 18:59 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:04 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:09 |
| superfly | Maaz: tell Kilos http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/bazaar-tutorial.html | 19:19 |
| Maaz | superfly: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 19:19 |
| === magespaw1 is now known as magespawn | ||
| magespawn | good evening again | 19:25 |
| octoquad | evening | 19:28 |
| magespawn | hey octoquad whats up/ | 19:44 |
| magespawn | ? | 19:44 |
| octoquad | hey | 20:14 |
| octoquad | :( | 20:15 |
| superfly | hi octoquad | 20:16 |
| octoquad | hey superfly | 20:42 |
| * superfly is busy installing Windows stuff in WINE on a remote server with no X | 20:49 | |
| octoquad | superfly, sounds like fun | 20:57 |
| superfly | not difficult, just painfully slow | 20:59 |
| superfly | ssh -X | 20:59 |
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