[04:29] morning everyone [06:12] good morning [06:12] hi magespawn [06:13] morning :) [06:14] morning octoquad and othersa [06:14] others too [06:20] good mornings [06:21] hi there inetpro [06:22] Kilos: that was like other SA, but in shorthand [06:23] lol [06:55] Goeie more Suid Afrika [06:56] morning nlsthzn [06:59] how are you uncle Kilos ? [07:02] mornings [07:03] im good ty nlsthzn and you? [07:03] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:04] always good thanks :) [07:04] got my mom visiting us here in sand land in preparation of the baby arriving in a few weeks :p [07:04] cool [07:05] when moms come visit even the food gets better [07:05] hehe [07:06] web instability >.< [07:06] or perhaps windows instability :/ [07:07] 1.2 gb of ram just for firefox >.< [07:08] whew [07:14] all better again [07:15] what was wrong [07:15] and how did you fix it [07:15] oh ya nlsthzn you can go add content [07:15] hehe [07:16] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~raoul-snyman/ubuntu-za/bzr-tutorial/view/head:/pages/bazaar-tutorial.rst [07:17] will go have a look in a bit... what is it btw? [07:19] its our site that being repaired [07:19] moved to static thing [07:19] inetpro tell him [07:24] ah ok [07:24] sounds good :) [07:25] mazal wb [07:25] wat se jy nou [07:25] welcome to kde land [07:26] Ja uiteindelik ne [07:26] Hou van hom , hy is net bietjie stadig [07:26] ja dis bietjie swaarder maar kan meer doen [07:26] oh gaan kyk hier [07:27] Still struggling to learn all the apps [07:27] But going well [07:27] http://www.binarytides.com/better-kubuntu-14-04/ [07:28] took me long to get used to it as well but now its my favourite os [07:28] lol , synaptic was die eerste ding wat ek gedoen het , sien hy is op daai lys ook [07:30] Hmm , interesting things in the link thanx oom [07:31] ja maar jy mopet daai ekstra pak by sit [07:31] die gtk op die einde [07:32] synaptic is vir my baie beter as software centre [07:39] Wow the quick access thingy is cool :) [07:43] konsole ftw [07:50] hmm... [07:56] * inetpro fails to see why you need synaptic [07:56] because it be lekker [07:57] better than muon package manager too which i see theyve left off [07:58] it is a bit easier for us not so into cli commands inetpro [08:00] what can be easier than cli? [08:00] pictures [08:01] * inetpro never uses muon [08:01] hahaha [08:01] and software centre? [08:01] ai! [08:03] still feel using terminal the fastest if you know what you want... if not then software center etc. becomes good to show choice [08:04] its too slow the centre and synaptic shows better [08:06] hi Vince-0 [08:07] Good morn Kilos [08:08] Kilos: A new company has launched MTN data SIM cards which offer unlimited data for R149 per month http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/116726-r149-uncapped-mobile-data-sim-launched.html [08:09] oh my [08:10] @ 2mb/week i spose [08:10] will look into it though [08:11] they might have even gone lte here in the time ive been away [08:19] wow inetpro further down [08:19] He said they are planning to launch a similar service through Telkom Mobile, which will include unlimited mobile data, R50 airtime, and 10GB Wi-Fi access for R149 per month. [08:22] so where does one get this new sim? [08:39] http://www.datasim.co.za/product.html [08:40] no youtube allowed is 1 down side already for me [08:40] and no detailed list on their site about exactly what they block [08:42] * inetpro likes the idea of unlimited with no youtube [08:42] i wonder if that sim would support me connecting to my openvpn server at home :D [08:43] lol [08:43] i dont use youtube anyway [08:43] they will probably block all forms of video [08:43] tara has to get stuff for me there and email it to me [08:44] if i can connect to openvpn then they can't block anything, they have no idea what i'm doing over an encrypted VPN :) [08:44] yep, not sure how sustainable it will be because people will find ways around it [08:44] sjoe [08:45] skelms [08:45] sad reality is that video is killing our limited bandwidth [08:46] i dunno how they can sell it online though, what about all the rica rigmarole [08:46] and there is a definite need for interwebs without video [08:48] guess the only way is for bandwidth to cater for full video capabilities, bandwidth pricing simply has to come down [08:55] they will have a fair usage policy on that [09:02] inetpro with that kinda uncapped we can play minetest again [09:03] will be more expensive for me though, as i now use a 2+1 for 2 months [09:35] inetpro why you think they made synaptic and muon and software centre? [09:35] lemme tell you [09:35] for peeps that say whats sudo [09:36] and many others too [09:39] * Kilos making lice to go with my cully [09:41] Kilos: you know sudo and you know aptitude, what more do you need to know? [09:42] lol the rest that goes with it [09:42] I mostly use synaptic when I can't remember the package name [09:42] aptitude instaal ?? is no good [09:42] Then cli is not an option , gotta go find the name first [09:42] gotta know what you want to install [09:42] synaptic rocks [09:43] I remember about 70% of them on a fresh install , but there is always a few that I forget [09:43] lol [09:44] first he nagged me for a few years to use kde now hes pushing cli all the time [09:44] sigh [09:45] And , once two days ago cli didn't see the package even though I put the correct name [09:45] Then synaptic does the trick [09:46] yip [09:46] you gotta get the name exact [09:52] he just sits and smirks. when i was all for gnome he nagged and since then nothing has changed [09:52] morning superfly [09:56] hi Kilos [10:15] Kilos: you want some cheese with that whine? :p [10:15] hee eee [10:16] i like to rev the pro at times [10:16] gussie strydom [10:17] aptitude search rocks [10:19] aptitude Search Term Reference http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html [10:20] ai! [10:25] mazal that link was for you [10:50] Tried that now , doesn't work [10:51] Probably my syntex is wrong [10:51] aptitude search '~ifirefox' [10:52] that will search for all installed packages with firefox in the name [10:52] But how do you see one that is not installed , cos that's where the problem usually comes [10:54] aptitude search '!~ifirefox' [10:54] The ! is the difference yes ? [10:54] yep [10:56] Ok I see i and p infront of results. I assume i = installed and p = available but not installed ? [10:57] yep [10:58] Why does this fail : [10:58] sudo aptitude search '!~ubuntu-desktop' [10:58] E: Unknown pattern type: u [11:00] because u is not a known pattern type [11:00] Because you need to use !~i before the name? [11:00] :-) [11:01] By this time already found and finished installing what I wanted in Synaptic [11:01] haha [11:03] so different strokes.... [11:03] Generally it's the same kind of strokes that get the job done though [11:03] it isn't a job for all of us [11:04] the who does DIY on weekends uses different tools and methods than the guy who's a prefessional joiner [11:04] *"the guy who".... [11:05] Hey now, women of negotiable affection need to make a living [11:06] a person who does DIY on weekends uses different tools and methods than a person who's a prefessional joiner [11:07] happy now Captain Political Correctness? :-P [11:11] hmm... [11:11] now even mage[tab] left [11:40] phew between a local mirror and an SSD installing updates is insanely quick [11:57] * inetpro wants to set up a local mirror [11:58] where [11:58] home or work [11:58] not sure whether it's worth it though, irrelevant packages change way too often [11:58] Kilos: definitely not at home [11:59] we run debian mirrors in cpt and jhb so we can point our customers' servers there [11:59] and i point my laptop to it [11:59] so updates are work are a breeze [12:07] hmm... [12:07] hope we don't get more loadshedding [12:07] we just experienced a bit of a dip here in Hatfield [12:09] Things are looking bad for us is something doesn't happen quick [12:10] I don't even want to read news anymore [12:12] Power Alert: Electricity supply is under severe pressure.... Please continue to keep off all geysers, appliances, stoves and most lights. [12:13] Apparently they are bankrupt and can only go until February. They say that currently if something breaks at a plant it will take at least 2 weeks to fix. 2 WEEKS without power !! [12:52] ai! [13:00] inetpro build a mirror on a portable external man [13:04] Maaz 620/19 [13:04] Kilos: 32.6315789474 [13:54] Kilos: they should allow you to get an updated mirror on at a public Freedom Toaster kiosk [13:54] * inetpro wonders whether these kiosks are even still around [13:57] i think those toasters all crashed because of no maitenance [13:59] remember that guy used to maintain the pta one [13:59] the guy that gave me the repos for 8.10 i think [13:59] \or 9.04 [13:59] not wasbeer? [14:01] walter leibrandt [17:21] hmm... [17:21] Maaz coffee on [17:21] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [17:25] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [17:34] evening nlsthzn [17:34] Maaz botsnack [17:34] YAY someone cares about me too! [17:34] o/ [18:00] evening all [18:06] hi captine [18:31] good evening [18:31] hi magespawn [18:59] lol I forgot about Maaz [18:59] Maaz hello! [18:59] Sup octoquad [18:59] :) [19:04] haha [19:09] night all. sleep tight [19:19] Maaz: tell Kilos http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/bazaar-tutorial.html [19:19] superfly: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode === magespaw1 is now known as magespawn [19:25] good evening again [19:28] evening [19:44] hey octoquad whats up/ [19:44] ? [20:14] hey [20:15] :( [20:16] hi octoquad [20:42] hey superfly [20:49] * superfly is busy installing Windows stuff in WINE on a remote server with no X [20:57] superfly, sounds like fun [20:59] not difficult, just painfully slow [20:59] ssh -X