[00:00] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Sorry typo on my part .. -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit <- That silly little space befor 'C" - should not have been there . Try again, please .
[00:00] <ule> Hi guys.. maybe this is not the right channel.. but Anyone knows how to expand my storage in Amazon AWS Instance widhout losing data after reboot?
[00:01] <ule> EC2
[00:01] <brontosaurusrex> anything special to clicky clicky to get particles to render?
[00:01] <ule> I expanded, it created a new volume in /mnt but when I stopped and started, I lost everything.. so.. I'll try to read amazon website..
[00:02] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: IF you have tried to install from Nvidia, need to remove that .. and come up on what "Additional Drivers" recommends . IF no joy then one looks elsewhwere .
[00:02] <Jeroen1> nvm got it
[00:02] <nobody___> what do you mean
[00:02] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: I'm at the prompt... Not really sure which nvidia package to use, shall I just go with the latest one?
[00:02] <Bobbo> Additional Drivers...
[00:02] <Bobbo> I only recall that from when I've actually got a gui up. :P
[00:03] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: To the best of my recolection .. 650ti wants 340.XX ...
[00:03] <SynrGy> this looks suspicious. in Xorg.0.log at the login screen, prior to login:
[00:03] <SynrGy> [     9.814] resize called 2880 1800
[00:03] <SynrGy> after login:
[00:03] <SynrGy> [    77.483] resize called 1280 960
[00:04] <SynrGy> that's the point at which i get a black screen and can't get the display to show anything afterwards.
[00:04] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: my choices according to the repo are 304, 310, 313, 319, 331... Or I could get it from the website. :3
[00:07] <ki7mt_> You can also use ubuntu-drivers list fom the command line, if your stuck there.
[00:08] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Getting from the web site .. not the best solution .. often gets broke in updates ..Gimme a bit and I confirm what driver the 650ti requires .
[00:08] <ki7mt_> s/ffrom/fom/g
[00:08] <nobody___> http://pastebin.com/3bAPAySV
[00:09] <zekoZeko> what's the "correct" way to set system-wide mime-type associations? I'm using MATE and when I install audacious it takes over inode/directory... I know how to set it for myself, but I need it for all users.
[00:10] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: their website recommends 340, which isn't showing from `apt-cache search nvidia-3`
[00:11] <ki7mt_> zekoZeko, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes
[00:13] <zekoZeko> ki7mt_: not really what i want... my problem is that a directory (MIME type inode/directory) gets opened with wrong application (when using xdg-open /path)
[00:14] <ki7mt_> zekoZeko, that's file association then, those are taken care of a couple ways, in the .desktop files and in places like /usr/share/gnome/applications/defaults.list  .. not sure about Mate specifically, as I never use it.
[00:15] <nobody___> http://pastebin.com/3bAPAySV what now?
[00:15] <zekoZeko> ki7mt_: i'm happy with figuring out how it works, i'll apply it to MATE :) let's presume I don't want to fiddle with defaults.list, is there something in /etc that overrides it?
[00:17] <zekoZeko> ki7mt_: ah, i see, it's linked to /etc/gnome/defaults.list... this could be useful. I'll delve into freedesktop docs to figure out how it all fits together.
[00:17] <ki7mt_> zekoZeko, well, that's the correct way, but I think this may work, though I've not used it: http://www.howtogeek.com/117709/how-to-change-your-default-applications-on-ubuntu-4-ways/
[00:19] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Look'n at your http://pastebin.com/3bAPAySV .
[00:20] <SynrGy> so, being scientific about this, mbp retina, black screen after logging in. the system remains responsive (via ssh) but nothing can wake up the display after that. here's the xrandr -q output when sitting at the lightdm prompt, followed by tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log. at this point, Xorg is not yet at a black screen:
[00:20] <SynrGy> http://paste.debian.net/140391/
[00:21] <Bashing-om> nobody___: No graphics driver loaded .. Intell is not my area of knowledge, but .. what hardware are we working with -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga | pastebinit <- .
[00:22] <SynrGy> after logging in, here's xrandr and tail Xorg.0.log again:
[00:22] <SynrGy> http://paste.debian.net/140392/
[00:22] <SynrGy> looks like the login causes a video mode change, and that's what makes the screen go blank. unfortunately, switching back to the original video mode after it goes blank doesn't help.
[00:23] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Old info - I still look'n is that 3.19 version should workie . Maybe the repo just not caught up to what Nvidia has availabale .
[00:24] <nobody___> is the grep command suppose to take a while?
[00:25] <ki7mt_> =< 1 sec
[00:25] <akurilin2> question: should a user automatically get sudo permission when added to sudo group on ubuntu?
[00:25] <akurilin2> I tried doing that and it's still asking me for a password
[00:26] <akurilin2> actually those might be two separate steps
[00:26] <SynrGy> any way from the command-line to tell unity *not* to try to switch video modes? i.e. override this to the one that works?
[00:26] <nobody___> http://pastebin.com/eSMzNN04
[00:26] <dione> Someone in US would you just search "Events in Roma, Italy today" and retrieve to me the URL?
[00:26] <bubbasaures> akurilin2, sudo permission is using a password for root
[00:26] <ki7mt_> akurilin2, that's two different things, questoin 1, yes, question 2, that's normal.
[00:27] <akurilin2> is it a bad idea to change my sudo group to be NOPASSWD: ALL since all my admin users remote in through ssh?
[00:27] <akurilin2> they don't have passwords afaik
[00:27] <bubbasaures> akurilin2, yes your wide open than
[00:27] <ikonia> they will have password
[00:28] <ki7mt_> akurilin2, from my perspective, Yes, that's a bad idea
[00:28] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: Anything else after installing the nvidia package? I mean, I've just been able to do it in the paste but this didn't work earlier. :£
[00:28] <ki7mt_> akurilin2, You should also disable password logins, and use keys for added security, but that's just my opinion.
[00:29] <bubbasaures> so well pu
[00:29] <bubbasaures> put
[00:29] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Lookin at http://pastebin.com/eSMzNN04.
[00:29] <akurilin2> ki7mt_: so I disabled password logins and use keys only, but I still shouldn't make every admin user NOPASSWD?
[00:29] <SynrGy> argh. what's the magic to talk to the dbus session so i can run dconf, as i can't open a terminal in unity. i can only contact the sick system via ssh :/
[00:29] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: IF ya had installed from Nvidia in the past .. need to remove those driver files prior to installing from "Additional Drivers" .
[00:30] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: clean install earlier today.
[00:30] <zekoZeko> SynrGy: export DESKTOP=:0.0 should help...
[00:30] <zekoZeko> SynrGy: but maybe you need something else to talk to dbus, dunno.
[00:30] <Bobbo> Well, as clean as I said; / formatted, old /home
[00:30] <ki7mt_> akurilin2, each admin should have their own PW, and their own key, but you could share a common key so when you disable it, everyone gets cut off.
[00:30] <SynrGy> zekoZeko: nope. it was that simple. thanks
[00:30] <akurilin2> ki7mt_: Ok interesting, thank you
[00:31] <ki7mt_> akurilin2, make sure you have a mater key, than nobody else gets but you.
[00:31] <ki7mt_> s/master/mater/
[00:32] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Install then from "Additional Drivers" the 'stable' 319 driver. let's see what is after a reboot .
[00:32] <SynrGy> zekoZeko: but somehow i suspect this particular incantation won't help
[00:33] <SynrGy> but we have progress. logging in as a guest works ...
[00:33] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: "Additional Drivers" is a gui thing, is it not? I don't have access to that cause I can't log in, lol. :P
[00:33] <SynrGy> just logging in as the primary user doesn't :/
[00:33] <SynrGy> i hate to toast all of dconf ... but it may come down to that
[00:33] <ki7mt_> that cuz of the /home directory
[00:33] <Guest63610> Anyone know why getline(cin, <string>) stops working after scanf in c
[00:34] <Bashing-om> nobody___: We appear to have 2 graphics cards: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: and 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300] . Lemme have a bit to see what we can come up with to tell the kernel how to handle this situation .
[00:34] <Guest63610> wrong channel
[00:34] <ki7mt_> sounds like homework to me
[00:35] <nobody___> oh also before this i had to chane the splash nomode thinging cus my screen was flickering
[00:35] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: CLI, we can handle that also .. ubuntu-drivers list ? then we see what we can install .
[00:37] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: just gives 304 and 331, lol
[00:37] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Still with "nomodeset' set in " /etx/default/grub " .. I do expect when the driver is installed that parameter to be removed (??) .
[00:38] <nobody___> maybe
[00:38] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: OK, ubuntu-drivers autoinstall .. let the kernel pick one .
[00:40] <SynrGy> bah. at the end of my patience with this one. will just mv ~/.config/dconf out of the way
[00:40] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Agreed - maybe -- seems I have tunnel vision .. lemme revisit .
[00:43] <SynrGy> nope. blowing away dconf, it gets recreated again with the wrong resolution:
[00:43] <SynrGy> http://paste.debian.net/140396/
[00:43] <SynrGy> this is an excerpt from DISPLAY=:0.0 dconf dump /
[00:44] <SynrGy> if you refer to my earlier pastes, the login screen is fine at 2880x1800, and when it is switched to 1280x960 by logging in, the screen goes black and i can't get it back again
[00:45] <SynrGy> my attempt at recovery is to get dconf to forget the 1280x960, but apparently this is a default ...
[00:46] <SynrGy> any idea where unity/compiz gets this default?
[00:46] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Try this to load the driver -> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade ,sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel <- reboot and let's see the effect .
[00:48] <nobody___> ok i installed it restarting now
[00:50] <nobody___> alright im back theres no screen flickering so thats good we can still focus on the screen tearing issue
[00:54] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: no dice. =/
[00:55] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Bummer .. Is "nomodeset" added in " /etc/default/grub " still ?
[00:56] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: it's not in there
[00:56] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Is a driver now loaded ? -> sudo lshw -C display <- look in the confiruation line .
[00:57] <nobody___> all it says is latency=0
[00:57] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Humm .. same same dor you as nobody___ .. did the driver load ? -> sudo lshw -C display <- .
[00:57] <blingz> ayo
[00:58] <Bashing-om> dor/for*
[00:58] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: That didn't give any output?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: The command is good .. give it some time to search, look and output .
[01:00] <Bobbo> I did, it wrote some stuff out, but then removed it and stopped executing.
[01:01] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Very strange .. I just copy/pasted that command in my terminal .. is good .. try again .
[01:05] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Still with no driver loaded ! Back to the drawing board .. Do not know the whyfore here yet .
[01:06] <nobody___> yea strange
[01:07] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: same again
[01:07] <Bobbo> redirected stdout to a file and the file is 0 bytes
[01:09] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: UnGood.. presently can not imigine that situation .. Lemme ponder a bit .. see what I can come up with for a cause .
[01:10] <pasupathi> hai
[01:10] <Bashing-om> nobody___: To cover the base .. what returns -> lspci | grep Display | pastebinit <- ?
[01:11] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: lspci -knn | grep VGA -A2 says nvidia driver is in use
[01:12] <spark_> who else have tried Sparklinux
[01:12] <nobody___> http://pastebin.com/AQ6xuSWY
[01:15] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Maybe see IF the Nvidia driver is behaving it's self ? -> sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old , sudo nvidia-xconfig <- Now restart so that the Nvidia driver can take effect.
[01:15] <Bashing-om> nobody___: If you do not adress me by nick .. I can loose ya in all this .. I be look'n at http://pastebin.com/AQ6xuSWY .
[01:16] <Bobbo> I still don't have an xorg config...
[01:16] <Bobbo> I guess I should just do nvidia-xconfig
[01:16] <nobody___> ok nick
[01:19] <Bashing-om> nobody___: one command -> lspci | grep Display | pastebinit <- . I expect only a very short output.
[01:19] <nobody___> the grep display doesnt do anything
[01:20] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: It is strange for sure, I sure expect that control file to exist for the proprietary Nvidia driver .
[01:21] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Thanks ( a nick please so your response gets high lighted in my IRC client ) .. humm, that no output must mena no driver is loaded .. I guess .. lemme see what I can do .
[01:22] <nobody___> nick ok sorry i forgot
[01:22] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: ran nvidia-xconfig, rebooted, no dice. :(
[01:24] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Ya did it again .. all ya got to do is type 'bas'- for "me" and hit the tab key to autocomplete the nick of the person you are addressing . Else ya can and do get lost in the maze .
[01:24] <nobody___> bas - did it work?
[01:25] <nobody___> bas
[01:25] <yaoning> 各位亲们，请问下在纯命令行条件下，能不能启动virtualbox？图形化界面下好卡，我跑了一个win8.1，分配了2G的内存
[01:25] <nobody___> bashing-om
[01:26] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Let's rip it all out and start again . be right back.
[01:26] <nobody___> give me an example of the command or text i would send to you i dont get what you mean by that
[01:26] <nobody___> .
[01:26] <nobody___> .
[01:26] <nobody___> .
[01:26] <nobody___> .
[01:26] <nobody___> .
[01:26] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Got it .. thanks ...
[01:26] <Bobbo> rofl
[01:27] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: tbh, it's now 1:30 here. =/
[01:27] <Bobbo> I should get to bed. :3
[01:27] <ch_ris> did i miss the party?
[01:28] <bubbasaures> !cn | yaoning englisg here
[01:28] <bubbasaures> english*
[01:29] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Rgr, we continue tomorrow .. I have in mind to purge all and re-install .
[01:29] <zorzevic_> #35+
[01:29] <zorzevic_> /join #35+
[01:31] <Bobbo> Rather annoying, I must say...
[01:33] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: It is a mystery, I agree, I like solving 'buntu puzzles .
[01:34] <Bashing-om> nobody___: In the meantime, back to finding out why we can not get a driver to load for your Haswell-ULT Intell chip set .
[01:42] <ki7mt_> try running the unity test first: /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p -f
[01:44] <wil2> Something that has come up... We are using Intel NUCs with SSDs for Kiosk machines - people keep randomly unplugging... So far, no issues, but, is there anyway to optimise the installation for this? There is never anything that needs to write/update on the machine, so, want to make these pretty bullet proof...
[01:46] <ki7mt_> and if all else fails, try installing the Intel drivers directory:  https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[01:48] <Bashing-om> nobody___: ki7mt_ ^^ , All I too know to try . We have tried installing the repo driver, did not take .
[01:49] <ki7mt_> Intel 1.0.7 has a x86_64 driver for 14.04
[01:50] <ilitch> qualcuno parla l'italiano?
[01:50] <ki7mt_> Or install the stack with xf86 package
[01:50] <bubbasaures> !it
[01:51] <ki7mt_> Bashing-om, then once Intel video is working, can work on drivers for the secondary card if needed.
[01:52] <Bashing-om> ki7mt_: I think I misread the output .. I do not think we are dealing with but one graphics set .
[01:53] <ki7mt_> The I would try the Intel driver, they ahve both 32/64 bit.
[01:54] <ki7mt_> Then I would ..
[01:57] <Fiskyo> list
[01:58] <Bashing-om> ki7mt_: Admittedly, little experience with Intel graphics, Intel just works .. All I do know to do -now - is see what results with the OEM driver .. :)
[02:00] <ki7mt_> I agree, normally, Intel just works, but it's interesting they provide Drivers for 14.04 :-)
[02:03] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Still with us ?
[02:05] <nobody___> .bashing-om yup
[02:05] <nobody___> bashing-om up
[02:05] <nobody___> bashing-om yup
[02:06] <michael_j_p> hello my fellow linux users
[02:06] <Bashing-om> nobody___: all lines say "yes" from -> /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p -f <- ?
[02:07] <Fiskyo> !list
[02:08] <ilitch> join #ubuntu-it
[02:08] <nobody___> Bashing-om <not software rendered AND unity3d supported have no>
[02:08] <nobody___> Bashing-om everything else says yes
[02:09] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Whoh .. I am surprised .. I do not know what now to advise .. Anybody else ?
[02:11] <nobody___> guess this is end of the line and hope ubuntu programmers can solve in next update
[02:11] <nobody___> Bashing-om guess this is the end of the line and hope ubuntu programmers can solver the problem
[02:12] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Well, no .. that might be a hasty conclusion . I just do not know Intel well enough to 'know' . When booting the liveDVD what is the graphics like ?
[02:13] <squinty> nobody___:  fwiw, a newer kernel came through today for 14.04  ->  3.13.0-44-generic
[02:13] <nobody___> bashing-om do you think this has anything to do with the reason why i cant change the backligh on my laptop
[02:14] <maurizi0> Hi! Ubuntu World!
[02:14] <nobody___> basdammit i accidently hit a book makr while yping now i forgot wahat i was gonna say
[02:14] <Bashing-om> nobody___: It is possible ( there is that boot parameter on a working driver to have the backlight functional) . As squinty advises, may see what things look like on the new kernel .
[02:15] <snwr34p3r> there all fixed up triple screens all working took 4 days but got it sorted out
[02:15] <nobody___> bashing-om oh thats right im not booting this live i installed it as main OS on hardrive
[02:16] <Bashing-om> nobody___: Right, but IF grahics are good in the liveDVD, we can conclude the non-graphics in the install is due to problems on the install .
[02:26] <ItsMeLenny> since upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 (64bit) i can't seem to get 32bit programs to run, one porgram telling me to install ia32-libs which doesnt seem to exist in the repos anymore, what is the fix to this?
[02:28] <zombifier> what programs are we talking about
[02:29] <zombifier> most should work out of the box
[02:29] <BloodyDragon20> can any one explain what this means http://pastebin.com/7MKZbbBu
[02:30] <ItsMeLenny> zombifier, at the moment its trine2, and second life client firestorm
[02:31] <bubbasaures> ItsMeLenny, Lots of info on archive access or compiling it's not in the repo's, not sure what else to say.
[02:31] <reisio> holy slow pastebin
[02:31] <reisio> BloodyDragon20: probably means it's looking for a file someplace it isn't
[02:31] <skweek> I have a built in micro sim card reader, and I'm trying to do some research before buying a microsim card to use with ubuntu 14.10
[02:31] <BloodyDragon20> reisio is there a way to fix it
[02:32] <ItsMeLenny> i dont know why theyd get rid of it when so many things use them
[02:32] <ItsMeLenny> bubbasaures, im not quite sure what you mean
[02:32] <reisio> BloodyDragon20: it looks like you're using some random 3rd party binary that you didn't get from a package manager
[02:32] <reisio> BloodyDragon20: that was your first mistake
[02:32] <reisio> skweek: well, good luck?
[02:32] <BloodyDragon20> reisio its called CentOS
[02:32] <bubbasaures> ItsMeLenny, When I looked on the web I see others asking the same question, and the answers contained these options
[02:33] <reisio> BloodyDragon20: oh? /topic
[02:33] <zombifier> ItsMeLenny, that's because nowadays most packages are expected to just grab the appropriate 32bit libraries, since Ubuntu has proper multiarch support now
[02:33] <zombifier> Found a AskUbuntu thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/401672/trine-2-on-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-64-bit
[02:35] <nicholas> hey I'm having trouble installing grub on ubuntu minimal, says fatal error. Any help
[02:36] <bubbasaures> nicholas, You uefi?
[02:36] <Lacan> what ubuntu version did u install?
[02:37] <nicholas> 14.04 mini
[02:37] <Bashing-om> nicholas: Show the channel what we are working with -> sudo parted -l | pastebinit <- . To see where grub should be installed .
[02:37] <bubbasaures> nicholas, Can you pull up a terminal?
[02:37] <nicholas> thinkpad x120e
[02:37] <nicholas> right now on lubuntu regular
[02:38] <bubbasaures> nicholas, try to read posts and just answer this can get mixed up.
[02:38] <nicholas> ok
[02:38] <bubbasaures> nicholas, can you run Bashing-om's command
[02:39] <bubbasaures> pastebinit needs to be installed I believe
[02:39] <reisio> most things need to be installed to use
[02:40] <bubbasaures> no......don't tell me that's true. ;)
[02:41] <Bashing-om> bubbasaures: True ! The harsh reality of life sometimes hurts .
[02:42] <bubbasaures> shucks I just thought the world revolved around me, I'm so crushed.
[02:42] <aswifj> hallo! just a curiosity: is SSH an encrypted protocol? thx
[02:43] <Lacan> anyone knows which best Ubuntu 14.10 or Ubuntu 14.04 LTS??
[02:43] <reisio> Lacan: knowing what 'LTS' entails would answer your question, I dare say
[02:43] <reisio> I can go ahead and tell you, though, it entails: nothing at all
[02:44] <Bashing-om> bubbasaures: ^^ It does, It does, What would #ubuntu be if you were not here ?
[02:44] <reisio> which would you rather have, the 1996 Ford or the 1997 Ford?
[02:44] <BlackVenom> Morning guys
[02:44] <reisio> mornin'
[02:44] <Lacan> i'am using Ubuntu 14.10 Pure UEFI, which running more smooth than Ubuntu 14.04 LTS..!
[02:44] <reisio> Lacan: far out
[02:45] <nicholas> bubbassaures, you sure are active here. I hope you forgive my impatientness
[02:45] <nicholas> same to you bashing-om
[02:46] <bubbasaures> nicholas, You are fine bro, looks like the computer should be a msdos set up, we were curious if not a uefi/gpt which is not on the mini.
[02:46] <bubbasaures> the shim anyway
[02:46] <nicholas> *sparkles* *stars*
[02:46] <BlackVenom> Do any of you folks know if Ubuntu still has issues with ATI GPU's?
[02:46] <Lacan> becouse it's more compatible for my notebook hardware!!!
[02:46] <GeekDude> Trying to install ubuntu onto my iMac G3. I'm repartitioning the drive so it looks like "32.3kB Apple, 1.0MB boot Apple_Bootstrap, 50MB xfs /boot, 2.0GB swap, 18.4GB xfs /". When I go to write the changes to the disk, it complains about not being marked for formatting (which it is), then fails saying "Failed to remove conflicting files: The installer needs to remove operating system files from the install target, but was unable to do so. The inst
[02:46] <GeekDude> all cannot continue."
[02:47] <nicholas> bubasaures, I'll stick with Lubuntu for now, as it is quite minimal
[02:47] <somsip> !mac | GeekDude
[02:47] <BlackVenom> I remember back in 10.04 I think it was I had big issues trying to get drivers for it to work
[02:47] <Lacan> It's run in smooth graphical view without installing any additional drivers!!!
[02:47] <skweek> well i'm more wondering if anyone can tell about how to detect the simcard reader and see if the built in one is supported
[02:48] <BlackVenom> Was that for me Lacan?
[02:48] <Bashing-om> nicholas: We fix'n the mini's grub situation ?
[02:49] <nicholas> ok/
[02:49] <Lacan> Nope, but for ATI GPU's u need to install non-free graphic driver manually..!
[02:49] <nicholas> ?*
[02:49] <reisio> Lacan: well, you can if you want
[02:50] <Bashing-om> BlackVenom: ATI does have a couple of issues .. ATI dropped support for some popular cards is the main one .
[02:50] <BlackVenom> Ah bugger
[02:50] <lala> hello everyone
[02:50] <bubbasaures> skweek, This a mini ssd port your just calling a sim?
[02:50] <reisio> 'lo lala
[02:50] <skweek> it looks like a Micro-Sim port to me
[02:51] <BlackVenom> I have a HP N40L microserver and need to find a GPU for it that fits
[02:51] <bubbasaures> skweek, look in the manual
[02:51] <lala> need to install my graphic card. after trying installing additional driver, still no luck
[02:51] <Bashing-om> nicholas: Show is what we are working eith -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , sudo parted -l | pastebinit <- and a tale will be told.
[02:52] <skweek> ok, lemme grab it offline
[02:52] <skweek> http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/tablets/lenovo/miix-series/miix-2-11-inch#tab-tech_specs
[02:52] <skweek> it looks like it
[02:52] <skweek> Connectors	
[02:52] <skweek> 2 x USB 2.0, Micro-SD, Micro-SIM, Micro-HDMI Audio Combo Jack
[02:53] <nicholas> I'm not currently in the ubuntu mini installer :-( I just put Lubuntu
[02:54] <Bashing-om> lala: What graphics card ? -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga | pastebinit <- .
[02:55] <Lacan> u just need to install from the ur DVD Installer manually in folder non-free if i'm not mistaken
[02:55] <Bashing-om> nicholas: IF you are booting Lubuntu liveDVD on same system as the mini is installed to .. the command will report .
[02:55] <bubbasaures> skweek, Cool, good job, never messed with a sim on more than my phone, so not sure how to confirm this one working, might be in lsusb would be my guess if something is plugged, just a bad guess really.
[02:55] <lala> vga compatiable controller. this is what i have found after -lspci
[02:56] <nicholas> dumped mini completely :-/ me=noob
[02:56] <skweek> lol, thanks, I'm really excited about the capability, nothing looks even close in lsusb
[02:57] <lala> Bashing-om: vga compatible controller.
[02:58] <nicholas> whatever, I'm still new, as time goes on, I'll learn more
[02:58] <Bashing-om> lala: That does not tell us much .. the output of the requested command will tell us . to install pastebin tool -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <- .
[02:59] <Bashing-om> nicholas: To be new is not a sin .. We all were at one time .. All of us are at some point on that learning curve .
[03:00] <Lacan> anyone knows how to solve bluetooth adapter not found and modem not detected directly. Sometime it detected but mostly not.. that's some kind of headache???
[03:00] <svetlana> specs?
[03:01] <maxwell> hello
[03:01] <maxwell> whats a good SSH program with a GUI
[03:02] <maxwell> I use PuTTY on Windows, but its very buggy on Ubuntu
[03:02] <maxwell> whats a good one?
[03:02] <svetlana> why would you need a gui; .ssh/config rocks
[03:02] <svetlana> http://nerderati.com/2011/03/17/simplify-your-life-with-an-ssh-config-file/
[03:02] <maxwell> :\
[03:02] <svetlana> sorry
[03:03] <Lacan> sometime the new kernel could make more issues..!
[03:03] <maxwell> what about a GUI one?
[03:03] <BlackVenom> Bashing-om Thanks for the reply. Is that the same for all Linux builds or just Ubuntu? Don't really want to have to go back to windoze if I can help it
[03:04] <svetlana> !info secpanel
[03:04] <svetlana> maxwell: ^^
[03:04] <lala> Bashing-om: thank you for your prompt response. i did use that command. what would be the next step?
[03:06] <Bashing-om> BlackVenom: For all linux builds. ATI bought out AMD and dropped what all AMD was doing for us . BUT, ATI does a fair job of supporting their stuff .. slow about the newest hardware support - getting better .
[03:07] <Bashing-om> lala: The command should have resulted in a URL output to your terminal .. pass that URL back here so we can see that result .
[03:07] <BlackVenom> ok Bashing-om. Thanks :-(
[03:08] <maxwell> svetlana, thanks a bunch
[03:09] <maxwell> svetlana, thanks a bunch
[03:09] <svetlana> welcome, sorry for being a bit thick originally
[03:09] <Bashing-om> lala: Still with me, or am I going to fast ? we need to know " lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga " by what you put into that pastebin .
[03:10] <lala> Bashing-om:  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main python-configobj all 4.7.2+ds-3build1 [233 kB] and  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/universe pastebinit all 1.3-2ubuntu2.1 [16.1 kB]
[03:11] <maxwell> also, in Windows, PuTTY allows to have a pinned list of servers that can be accessed right from the toolbar
[03:11] <lala> Bashing-om: thank you for bearing with me. after installing pastebin tools. these r the urls i got .
[03:11] <maxwell> does secpanel have this?
[03:12] <Bashing-om> lala: Slow down and advise me when/if you do not understand ... 1st is to install the tool 'pastebinit' : do so from terminal commands : -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <- when that is done advise and we do the next step .
[03:13] <lala> Bashing-om: yes. after that command . pastebin is installed :)
[03:14] <maxwell> svetlana, ?
[03:15] <Bashing-om> lala: OK, now in terminal do: -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga | pastebinit <- that will put that output into a file on 'pastebin' and give you a URL back in your terminal . please post back here that URL and we access that fil and see what the result is .
[03:15] <lalatenduM> Bashing-om, ??
[03:15] <Bashing-om> lala: copy and paste for commands works wonderfully .
[03:16] <lalatenduM> Bashing-om, why do I need that command?
[03:17] <Bashing-om> lalatenduM: Not directed to you (?) was talking with one 'lala' .
[03:17] <lala> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9723737/     this is what i got.
[03:17] <Bashing-om> lala: Great ,, I be look'n .
[03:18] <lala> Bashing-om: thank you for your time.
[03:18] <lalatenduM> Bashing-om, ah, sorry. somehow I got highlight as my name is lala in another server :(
[03:18] <lalatenduM> I mean irc server
[03:20] <tblake3> Is there a way to get Firefox to report that the OS is Windows?
[03:20] <maxwell> there is an addon
[03:21] <Bashing-om> lalatenduM: Hate to be the beareer of bad news .. Just not much (some) help for the GMA500 graphics set. see : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Poulsbo , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1984236 <- support thread for the GMA500 .
[03:21] <maxwell> useragent cloaker
[03:21] <maxwell> or hider, tblake3
[03:21] <bubbasaures> tblake3, user agent switcher for browsers
[03:21] <maxwell> there
[03:21] <maxwell> yea! switcher
[03:22] <Bashing-om> lalatenduM: Good to know I am not at fault  ( in this instance) .
[03:23] <Bashing-om> lala: Then I did do it .. sorry lalatenduM ... see my last lala. :)
[03:26] <lala> Bashing-om : thanks again. just for the info. when i installed latest version of ubuntu LTE. it did pick up the graphic card. but the system got too slow. then i downgraded to previous version. but having trouble with graphic card .
[03:27] <MrCurious> anyone know how to turn a lubuntu into a standard ubuntu desktop experience?
[03:28] <Stanley00> MrCurious: You can try install ubuntu-desktop. That'll install standard ubuntu desktop on your machine.
[03:28] <bubbasaures> MrCurious, install the ubuntu-dedktop
[03:29] <bubbasaures> desktop* Doh
[03:29] <tblake3> maxwell, bubbasaures: user agent switcher worked, thanks!
[03:30] <maxwell> great, tblake3
[03:34] <electricfred> hi everyone.  I'm guessing this is a support chat area?
[03:34] <electricfred> I'm gonna guess i might be able to find some advice?
[03:35] <somsip> !ask | electricfred
[03:35] <MrCurious> i did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, then rebooted, and the odroid c1 rebooted with the same window manager
[03:37] <bubbasaures> MrCurious, You have to choose the desktop at login.
[03:38] <Bashing-om> MrCurious: I do not know " odroid c1 " but in a normal install, at the login box - upper right click on the 'buntu icon for a drop down to secect the desired session .
[03:38] <MrCurious> ahhh hmm, it autologged in
[03:38] <bubbasaures> MrCurious, logout than in auto logins go to last desktop run.
[03:38] <bubbasaures> goes*
[03:38] <MrCurious> ahhhh
[03:39] <MrCurious> *smacks forehead*
[03:39] <bubbasaures> lol it happens.
[03:39] <MrCurious> thanks
[03:39] <bubbasaures> no pr4ob
[03:39] <bubbasaures> prob*
[03:39] <electricfred> Hi.... we'll 1st time here... anyway, ubunto install won't. boot..  downloaded 12.4, made an image with a ubunto desktop with the start utility.  All goes fine until reboot. and it won't..  blank screen.  Suspect MBR issue, but I can't seem to get anywhere?  Ideas?
[03:40] <somsip> !nomodeset | electricfred
[03:42] <electricfred> thnx, will try it
[03:45] <bubbasaures> MrCurious, Heh a mini cool and cheap
[03:48] <MrCurious> i have it hanging off of a motorola lapdock
[03:48] <MrCurious> a laptop on the cheap 4 * 1.5ghz 32bit  1gram
[03:49] <bubbasaures> yeah 35$ and linux friendly
[03:50] <MrCurious> not as powerful as the u2/u3 i have, but its cheaper and disposable
[03:51] <adante> hi, i'm on 14.04 - when i run do-release-upgrade it says no new release found
[03:51] <adante> am i supposed to go hunting through my sources.list ? i'm using the rather generic au.archive.ubuntu.com, i would have hoped it'd be up to date after 3 months
[03:52] <bubbasaures> adante, You know of lts and in between releases a time of support?
[03:52] <bubbasaures> and*
[03:52] <adante> bubbasaures: sorry can you rephrase that?
[03:52] <bubbasaures> !lts
[03:53] <Bashing-om> adante: ^^; what returns -> grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades < - ?
[03:53] <adante> Prompt=lts
[03:53] <bubbasaures> adante, By upgrading you loose the 5 years support om 14.04, 14.10is way shorter is all.
[03:53] <Lacan> and how long the support for Ubuntu 14.10 Utopic Unicorn???
[03:54] <somsip> !14.10 | Lacan
[03:54] <Lacan> yes 14.10, sorry??
[03:54] <somsip> Lacan: Ubuntu 14.10 will be supported for 9 months for Ubuntu Desktop
[03:54] <adante> bubbasaures: that is fine as i have never engaged support - how do i upgrade?
[03:54] <somsip> Lacan: from the ReleaseNotes link
[03:55] <bubbasaures> adante, I would follow Bashing-om
[03:55] <Bashing-om> Then your system is awaiting 16.04 .. IF you realy want 14.10 . will have to re-direct . in " Software Sources " is one way .
[03:55] <somsip> adante: "support" means that no new packages will be released after support ends. No bugfixes, no security releases. Nothing.
[03:55] <adante> wait - 16.04 was a typo right?
[03:56] <Bashing-om> adante: Nope, as your update manager is set for ' LTS ' ... the next LTS release is 16.04 .
[03:57] <adante> Bashing-om: ok
[03:57] <Lacan> It's comprehensible, since 14.10 more stable.. as long as i try it then 14.04 !
[03:57] <adante> wow okay didn't release release cycle had lengthened
[03:58] <adante> ok so from the command line how do i upgrade to 14.10 ? can i set Prompt=standard ?
[03:58] <Spiffy-man> can anyone tell me how to apply this patch to my kernel? I've downloaded linux-source-3.13.0, I just need to figure out the next step. https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/5/30/513
[03:59] <Bashing-om> adante: See -> cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades <- in a text editor change the line " prompt=lts " to " prompt=normal " .
[04:00] <Bashing-om> adante: Ta want the GUI way ?
[04:00] <adante> Bashing-om: i don't have a graphical head atm so CLI is preferred
[04:01] <adante> Bashing-om: so if i do that then i should be able to  apt-get upgrade; do-release-upgrade
[04:01] <adante> ?
[04:01] <Bashing-om> adante: the text editor way will get the job done . : )
[04:01] <adante> someone recommended i disable ppas before upgrading - is this necessary?
[04:02] <dupingping> Now In QT4, the font over 48pt, can not be showed with Bold.
[04:02] <cfhowlett> adante, recommended practice otherwise you'll get errors --- lots of errors
[04:02] <Lacan> adante: it's more complicate and more risk if lucky not getting any issues..! i suggest u use directly Ubuntu 14.10 and pure UEFI to be more comaptible to your hardware
[04:02] <dupingping> How to solve this problem?
[04:02] <bubbasaures> Spiffy-man, From 2013, not sure this is within our support 3rd party wise.
[04:02] <Bashing-om> adante: Then yeah .. make sure ALL PPAs are disabled ,, inclusive of proprietary grahics drivers .. ( sometimme the installer misses a PPA - non ubuntu software - .. also disable any screen saver . should then be a piece of cake .
[04:02] <adante> Lacan: when you say use directly do you mean reinstall from scratch?
[04:03] <Lacan> from the installer i mean..!
[04:03] <adante> Lacan: i use directly ubuntu 14.10 from the installer? i don't follow
[04:04] <bubbasaures> adante, I would be backed up, having those packages from ppa's can make trouble, on or off, their installed
[04:04] <Spiffy-man> bubbasaures: it's unsupported yes, but it's the only way to decouple my pci lanes
[04:05] <Lacan> adante : But it's ur prefer ! Are u using BIOS MBR or UEFI GPT?
[04:05] <bubbasaures> Spiffy-man, I doubt anyone at least a responsible person here will touch that is all, could be wrong.
[04:06] <bubbasaures> Spiffy-man, I would address the end goal a little more and this is ubuntu only support so we are on the same page,
[04:06] <adante> Lacan: bios mbr i believe
[04:06] <liuxg> I am now using kazam to record my video on Ubuntu 14.10. however, I got noise sound in recorded file. what is the problem. It used to work well.
[04:07] <bubbasaures> !purge-ppa | adante important info I think
[04:08] <Spiffy-man> alright, to revise the question for ubuntu-centric support: how do i apply a kernel patch to my ubuntu kernel? we'll leave out the specific patch for this question
[04:08] <bubbasaures> adante, Have you checked if any of those ppa's are in 14.10, if not purge it first, if me I would purge all especially a graphic driver one.
[04:09] <bubbasaures> sigh
[04:09] <Lacan> adante: i use both..!
[04:16] <Lacan> Anyone who's play Urban_Terror?!
[04:18] <somsip> Spiffy-man: you apply a patch to the source code, then compile your own kernel
[04:18] <Lacan> anyone knows how to install a complete C++ Api on Ubnutu?!
[04:19] <somsip> Lacan: your question doesn't make sense. Can you rephrase?
[04:19] <Spiffy-man> i gathered that much. it's somewhere in that process I am confused :P
[04:19] <en1gma> sup all? im in kali-linux 1.0.9 and am thinking about switching over to a flavor of ubuntu. i like the drop down menus and alot of the apps i use...use QT but mainly i need the unstable repos for the pre-built packages. i tired of having to build everything from scratch. any recommendations
[04:19] <Lacan> i'd like to learn C or C++ on Ubuntu?! what shoud i install for its envinroment??
[04:19] <somsip> Spiffy-man: if you're confused, it may not be a good idea to compile your own kernel
[04:20] <Spiffy-man> yes. I agree. But I need that patch to continue. I've never needed to mess with the kernel before
[04:20] <somsip> Lacan: depends which one you want to learn. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingCompilers
[04:21] <Lacan> Yeah, i thoughs it's depend on what u need..!
[04:21] <somsip> Spiffy-man: All I would suggest is that you research lots, do tests on a VM or something. Only take action on the real PC when you're absolutely happy you've got it right
[04:22] <Lacan> somsip: anyway, thanks for the reference :)
[04:31] <sheer> hello,
[04:31] <sheer> so when i boot into linux, it says there was a problem
[04:31] <sheer> how do i find out what it is and how to fix it?
[04:31] <FrankD> hey, anyone here have experience with installing Ubuntu to a machine that uses the cciss driver (HP, ie Smart Array P400)
[04:31] <FrankD> its not detecting my disks, though i can see them in /dev/ccis/
[04:31] <FrankD> a symlink /dev/sdb to /dev/ccis/c0d0 didnt help
[04:32] <FrankD> disks to not show up under /sys/block
[04:32] <FrankD> do not ^
[04:32] <bubbasaures> FrankD, Never heard of this, but is this a uefi bios?
[04:33] <codejunior> #symfony
[04:34] <bubbasaures> raid as the bugs would say right
[04:35] <electricfred> ubuntu server 12.04 install into asus eeebox.    acpi_osi=  did not do the trick.  screen still goes off... any ideas?
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:40] <bubbasaures> electricfred, Not sure exactly but this link might help, http://redsymbol.net/linux-kernel-boot-parameters/
[04:40] <Bashing-om> sheer: What errors does the system report from terminal commands: -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get -f install <- ?
[04:41] <bubbasaures> sheer, also look at the info in the dropdown, apport is the reporting package and will do this on 3rd parties even.
[04:42] <bubbasaures> I generally nuke apport
[04:45] <electricfred> thnx bubbasaures.... way over my head..  just a newbie trying my 1st simple server build on a recycled platform.
[04:46] <bubbasaures> electricfred, With a desktop?
[04:46] <bubbasaures> or the cli goes black?
[04:46] <bubbasaures> Ah off, my bad
[04:47] <electricfred> no desktop.  screen goes blank, monitor goes off, keyboard and power switch locked up
[04:48] <bubbasaures> that is an issue, I wish I had a clue on it.
[04:49] <electricfred> seems a common problem from what I've read on posts and forms, but never see any answers. Yet the machine came with Ubuntu desktop
[04:49] <bubbasaures> electricfred, You tried the server #ubuntu-server channel I would assume.
[04:51] <electricfred> with me, don't asume anything LOL... didn't see any link to a server chat. Only saw this IRC
[04:55] <vbgunz> anyone have a byobu windows.tmux.file that successfully launches several windows and a command per window? can you put it up on a pastebin somewhere?
[04:55] <vbgunz> I'd really appreciate it :)
[04:56] <bubbasaures> vbgunz, Have you looked through any bugs?
[04:57] <vbgunz> bubbasaures: no. not sure where they're at
[04:57] <vbgunz> I've googled the baby jesus out of it and I should have had it working by now but no dice
[04:58] <bubbasaures> vbgunz, Not really knowing your issue, I found these, https://www.google.com/search?q=byobu+windows.tmux.file+ubuntu&btnG=Search&hl=en&gbv=1
[04:58] <bubbasaures> easier to show the search I think
[05:02] <FrankD> bubbasaures, no its not a uefi bios.. old board, circa 2008 or so
[05:02] <rypervenche> h
[05:02] <rypervenche> oops, sorry
[05:02] <FrankD> but its still 24 2.66GHz cores and 128GB of RAM :p
[05:03] <FrankD> to which Ubuntu wont install to and i need it to in order to match my other VM server :\
[05:04] <vbgunz> bubbasaures: I've visited pretty much the entire first page before I saw what you did there. I'm not kidding about googling this issue to death
[05:04] <bubbasaures> FrankD, I asked as we see this with them, is all.
[05:04] <vbgunz> well near death, I'm still kicking and so is the problem
[05:05] <FrankD> its due to it being an older driver mainly
[05:05] <FrankD> its a block driver not a SCSI driver
[05:05] <FrankD> but i dont have an issue install bsd/solaris/OI on it, havent tried to see if Fedora will go on smoothly
[05:06] <FrankD> is there any way to tell Ubuntu "HEY MY DISK IS AT /dev/cciss/c0d0"?
[05:06] <bubbasaures> vbgunz, Sure, I doubt I can help directly, but here the actual issue is what is most often addressed.
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> vbgunz: there is a small #byobu channel if that can help
[05:07] <bubbasaures> FrankD, Does a sudo fdisk -l show anything? not sure if you have a cli there.
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> vbgunz: oh, you found it already :p
[05:08] <vbgunz> I can create my own windows.tmux.file for Byobu and create a session and several windows but I should also have the option add a command on the tail of every window definition but I can't. no commands work in any way, double, single or no quote. byobu stops in its tracks complaining I got it wrong but I am 95% sure I don't
[05:09] <vbgunz> thanks lotuspsychje, yeah the dev is super helpful in there but not available at the moment
[05:09] <FrankD> bubbasaures, no fdisk in the installation
[05:09] <FrankD> i guess i could wget it
[05:09] <FrankD> or curl
[05:09] <FrankD> if thats there
[05:09] <vbgunz> I'd hate to bother him to because this shouldn't even be a problem but I can see how I could get it wrong
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> vbgunz: man byobu show anything usefull?
[05:10] <vbgunz> lotuspsychje: just a complaint of how I should use "new-window" ... everything about it is good up until I try adding -> ssh u@h
[05:10] <vbgunz> then it all goes to hell
[05:10] <vbgunz> well, it just complains about usage of "new-window"
[05:10] <bubbasaures> FrankD, Heh, you get it going and we could use it as a mini super to answer all the questions here. ;)
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> vbgunz: here they describe new-window lines into the config: http://askubuntu.com/questions/213600/setting-default-byobu-screens
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> not sure if its relevant
[05:17] <vbgunz> lotuspsychje: thanks a bunch but I'm using tmux as my backend. I'm pretty sure I'm correct in my usage but the config file is probably being parsed wrong or I'm doing something wrong on a very subtle level and I can't see it.
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> vbgunz: can you paste the exact error plz?
[05:22] <vbgunz> lotuspsychje: there really isn't an error, it's just this when executing byobu -> usage: new-window [-adkP] [-c start-directory] [-F format] [-n window-name] [-t target-window] [command]
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> vbgunz: dont you need to add such line in your profile to work?
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> vbgunz: you get an error after try the command no?
[05:23] <vbgunz> the command -> tmux new-window -t one:4 -n 'u@h' 'ssh u'  WORKS in terminal but doesn't work in windows.tmux.ssh
[05:24] <vbgunz> no error, just that
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> k
[05:24] <vbgunz>  tmux new-window -t one:4 -n 'u@h' WORKS in the config but adding 'ssh u' on the tail end of the definition (where it should go and works in terminal) does not work :(
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> vbgunz: aha, i found the #tmux channel, alot more users there :p
[05:25] <vbgunz> hmm, I guess I can give it a try
[05:37] <FrankD> hmm
[05:38] <FrankD> disk does not show up in fdisk -l and fdisk /dev/cciss/c0d0 says device does not exist
[05:38] <FrankD> what a pain
[05:38] <FrankD> not that i really need a disk, VM server can boot off USB
[05:38] <FrankD> everything is iSCSI
[05:39] <Nathan2055> So...what happened to my new Ubuntu 14.10 install: http://i.imgur.com/xxcpm3B.png
[05:39] <Nathan2055> Loaded it on a VirtualBox VM on Windows 7.
[05:39] <FrankD> just cant believe BSD/OI/Solaris Express had no issues
[05:39] <bubbasaures> Nathan2055, you get the kernel upgrade today?
[05:40] <bubbasaures> 14.04
[05:40] <Nathan2055> No idea. I just downloaded the 14.10 ISO via the torrent from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[05:40] <Nathan2055> *downloaded today
[05:40] <k1l> give the vm more hardware power in the vm settings
[05:40] <bubbasaures> Nathan2055, Network install?
[05:41] <Nathan2055> No. Full install from the ISO. I did get the updates and the non-free additions, though.
[05:41] <bubbasaures> Nathan2055, Did you install any graphic drivers?
[05:41] <Nathan2055> And I dunno what you mean by more power, it has 1.5GB of RAM and 30MB of graphics memory.
[05:42] <Nathan2055> No, this is what I got on second boot-up. After the initial install I shut down to make a VM snapshot.
[05:42] <OerHeks> 30 mb is not enough, minimum 128 mb
[05:42] <bubbasaures> I would give it the full graphic and back it off as you like to start with
[05:42] <cfhowlett> Nathan2055, pretty low ... not sure that would run on a native ubuntu.  lubuntu *might* run on those kind of settings
[05:44] <Nathan2055> I also get this weird error where it keeps freezing up on the "Enter passphrase" page and making me reset.
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Nathan2055, nothing to do with your graphics.  suggest you solve one issue at a time.
[05:44] <OerHeks> Nathan2055, might be due to the same issue
[05:44] <Nathan2055> Gave it full graphics, same thing.
[05:45] <Nathan2055> Boosting to 2GB RAM.
[05:46] <Nathan2055> Nope. Still busted.
[05:46] <Nathan2055> 128MB graphics, 2GB RAM.
[05:46] <cfhowlett> Nathan2055, did you md5sum that .iso??
[05:46] <Nathan2055> I couldn't find the checksum on the website.
[05:47] <k1l> come on, give it some more than the 80's vram
[05:47] <cfhowlett> Nathan2055, http://releases.ubuntu.com/utopic/
[05:47] <k1l> ah wait, misread that. sorry
[05:47] <Nathan2055> That's the max video memory available in VBox.
[05:48] <Nathan2055> Found them: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[05:48] <Nathan2055> But doesn't BitTorrent do that automatically?
[05:48] <cfhowlett> Nathan2055, always verify your .iso  ALWAYS
[05:49] <Nathan2055> kk, running an md5
[05:50] <Nathan2055> It's correct, at least according to the page I linked.
[05:50] <Nathan2055> Maybe I screwed something up, I'm gonna go to bed and try and reinstall tomorrow.
[05:50] <Nathan2055> With a different ISO.
[05:51] <Nathan2055> 'night
[05:57] <telx85> g'day guys, can someone give me some insight how to fix my dkms??
[05:57] <telx85> I'm using 14.04
[05:57] <k1l> telx85: what hapended to dkms?
[05:57] <cfhowlett> !details | telx85
[05:58] <telx85> yeah not drama
[05:58] <telx85> so if I run this command - dkms status it shows this
[05:58] <telx85> nvidia, 340.65, 3.13.0-43-generic, x86_64: installedError! Could not locate dkms.conf file. File:  does not exist.
[05:58] <telx85> but I've also got multiple installs?? of nvidia
[05:59] <telx85> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9725166/
[05:59] <k1l> telx85: from ubuntu repos?
[06:00] <telx85> no installed from nvidia
[06:00] <k1l> that is the issue.
[06:00] <telx85> ??
[06:00] <telx85> I need to only use the ubuntu repos to install nvidia drivers?
[06:00] <k1l> afaik the nvidia driver from the website doesnt work with dkms.
[06:00] <k1l> the ubuntu nvidia driver from the repos works with dkms
[06:01] <telx85> why does it show in dkms  status that there are other versions installed then?
[06:01] <k1l> !find nvidia trusty
[06:02] <OerHeks> indeed, driver from the website doesnt work with dkms
[06:02] <telx85> ok so how do I purge the old drivers and use the repos?
[06:04] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-\*
[06:10] <cfhowlett> y
[06:16] <telx85> sorry dude came for a package had to run
[06:16] <telx85> command doesn't work, it doesn't find any packages
[06:37] <ramsrambo> Hi! Any tool to asses ubuntu can be installed for mobile device
[06:38] <bubbasaures> ramsrambo, sounds like a statement can you clarify your end goal.
[06:39] <ramsrambo> I wanna install ubuntu on my swipe telecom MTV slate model
[06:39] <OerHeks> ramsrambo, is it ATOM/ARM8 or higher?
[06:40] <ramsrambo> CPU MTK 8389, Quad core
[06:40] <OerHeks> ramsrambo, then it is a no-go AFAIK
[06:40] <bubbasaures> ramsrambo, That is an android device
[06:41] <ramsrambo> yes ! it is running a rooted jelly beans
[06:42] <bubbasaures> no lolipop eh, closest would be #ubuntu-touch no guarantees though
[06:42] <ramsrambo> why I cannot install ? it has a cpu
[06:42] <OerHeks> nokia 3310 has a cpu too
[06:42] <ramsrambo> Lol
[06:43] <ramsrambo> 1GB DDR 3 Ram 8 GB ROM flash
[06:44] <bubbasaures> ramsrambo, There are no images as of now for android devices basically, on one that could run it.
[06:44] <ramsrambo> if there is a tool could determine the possibility of installing ubuntu
[06:44] <bubbasaures> yeah, it's between your ears. ;)
[06:44] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[06:45] <OerHeks> arm8 or x86
[06:46] <ramsrambo> giving a new tool would be a great idea than listing all devices I guess
[06:47] <mehdi__> hey guys how can i install flash player on my browsers like chrome and opera?
[06:48] <mehdi__> i already have it on firefox enabled by default
[06:48] <OerHeks> mehdi__, chrome has got its own pepperflash build in
[06:48] <OerHeks> !flash
[06:48] <mehdi__> OerHeks, well  what about opera?
[06:49] <bubbasaures> mehdi__, Is this mint?
[06:49] <mehdi__> bubbasaures, ubuntu 14.04
[06:50] <OerHeks> mehdi__, opera is not on that page, try pepperflash ? see the url from ubootuy
[06:50] <bubbasaures> the flash-plugin run in opera
[06:50] <OerHeks> *ubottu
[06:51] <willemgf_> Anyone experience with aptly, more specific using it for PXE install?
[06:53] <OerHeks> willemgf_, aptly is debian only?
[06:53] <ramsrambo> this cpu I hv on my tablet MT8389 is an low cost ARM SoC (system on chip
[06:53] <OerHeks> !info aptly
[06:53] <adante> bubbasaures: sorry got a phone call and distracted - thanks for your help!
[06:53] <ramsrambo> still I can install ubuntu
[06:54] <bubbasaures> adante, You get upgraded it seems, good.
[06:54] <Ben64> ramsrambo: try #ubuntu-arm or #ubuntu-touch
[06:54] <OerHeks> ramsrambo,  good luck with that Cortex-A7
[06:55] <ramsrambo> ok ! Ben64
[06:55] <willemgf_> OerHeks, Aptly is indeed isfor debian, but should also work for ubuntu. I only have problems with configuring my preseed file in order to use the aptly repo.
[06:55] <OerHeks> willemgf_, it is not available in ubuntu, so i wonder
[06:56] <melvin> Heey guys, i have the software X11VNC server installed so i can remote desktop my ubuntu server (GUI). The only thing is when i start the Computer it doesn't setup the settings automatically. I want it to start automatically so when i put in sudo reboot  that it also startup. Can anyone help me with that?
 I really wish some linux distribution would automagically recognize fakeraid during install :( </rant>
[07:01] <Toggi3> Does anyone know if it is possible to install Ubuntu 14.04 to a software RAID10 in a way where if I lose a disk the system will still boot and not freak out?
[07:05] <jefgy> I have two servers running ubuntu.  They both are running 14.04 and have two nics.   I want to directly connect the two nics but when I do they on't seem to be able to reach each other.  The ip's are statically assigned 192.168.0.100-102
[07:05] <willemgf_> OerHeks, Ubuntu is Debian based, so I doubt it would not work! We already installed the package and created our own repo's. Problem is that my PXE install ends up with a "wrong mirror" error.
[07:06] <Toggi3> jefgy: stupid question, but did you perhaps try a crossover cable incase the autoxover isn't working?
[07:06] <Toggi3> what does ethtool $nic_identifier1 and ethtool $nic_identifier 2 say?
[07:07] <jefgy> I didn't but they are both running gig intel cards
[07:07] <Toggi3> does it detect link?
[07:07] <hateball> jefgy: Are the other NICs connected to something else? I'm thinking if you have a routing problem
[07:08] <jefgy> The other nics are connected to the class C network
[07:08] <koustubhs> hello, How do I install certain dynamic libraries I want in Ubuntu using apt-get? I want to install libraries like ld-linux.so.2, pulseaudio-libs.i686 and couple other more. Why can I simply not do # apt-get install pulseaudio-libs.i686
[07:09] <hateball> jefgy: make sure you add a route for the 192.168.1.x subnet or it will most likely try the default route to your other subnet
[07:10] <jefgy> I set the route
[07:10] <jefgy> ethtool say auto-neg is on
[07:10] <jefgy> this is the same setup I used in 10.04
[07:10] <jefgy> and 12.04
[07:11] <jefgy> The only differences is that I had to trim up the interfaces file (remove gateway etc)
[07:41] <en1gma> i just installed ubuntu 14.10 amd64 because it showed there was a package i wanted "GQRX" and after i did all my updates i tried to install it and it dont. it shows it is there with the 'apt-cache search gqrx' command. so whats up with that
[07:41] <cfhowlett> en1gma, where did you find that package?
[07:42] <en1gma> nm. i think i found my mistake
[07:42] <en1gma> its called "gqrx-sdr"
[07:42] <en1gma> thanks though
[07:43] <Trinity> can someone please direct me towards the right phrases to ask? I downloaded an httpserver and it's supposed to be an API for ActiveTick. I ran the executable and I get basically default details. What am i doing wrong?
[07:44] <en1gma> i have a complaint about the whole install process. the ubuntu servers are horrible for the download...only 1GB so i installed utorrent on my windows pc and then got the torrent. i then put it on a usb stick. 90minutes to install when all the files are already on the stick? freaking language packs? are you serious? i picked my language during install
[07:45] <en1gma> any new person will be really frustrated. luckily im not new but just disappointed in that crap. also it says do you want to install updates during install and i select yes. guess what happens after i reboot after installation? it install 30mins of more updates?
[07:45] <en1gma> im just saying. very very disappointed about the install process
[07:45] <en1gma> of course now that its all installed im happy but dang. worse the windows 8.1 install process
[07:46] <Ben64> en1gma: this channel is not for ranting
[07:46] <kiki67100> Please verify that the ip 192.3.139.98 is not a hacker or this server is not hacked from a hacker. It's to do a some legal complain from french to american ? or something else to find the responsable ?
[07:47] <kiki67100> sorry
[07:47] <cfhowlett> kiki67100, how do you expect us to verify that?  and no, I'm not clicking that link
[07:47] <en1gma> i just said that im happy that it was installed. someone really should fix the automatic language packs install or there should be an option that says "pull lan cord"
[07:47] <kiki67100> cfhowlett: sorry below the correct phrase
[07:47] <kiki67100> Hello, i have a question, my friend has been hacked from a american server, It's possible to do a some legal complain from french to american ? or something else to find the responsable ?
[07:48] <Ben64> en1gma: ok, but this channel is for ubuntu support, not ranting
[07:48] <cfhowlett> kiki67100, you could complain to your ISP I suppose ...
[07:48] <bubbasaures> kiki67100, you have heard of a proxy right?
[07:48] <Ben64> kiki67100: this is #ubuntu, for Ubuntu support questions, it's not even close to on topic here
[07:48] <en1gma> ummm im just hoping someone that has a little pull will take it into consideration about the suggestions i posted. not ranting
[07:49] <kiki67100> cfhowlett: The remote ISP ( American )  or my ISP who rent my server ?
[07:49] <Ben64> kiki67100: not on topic here
[07:49] <kiki67100> bubbasaures: I don't know that, what is it ?
[07:50] <en1gma> ok anyhow. i going to be on my way. happy it is installed. have good day peeps
[07:50] <cfhowlett> kiki67100, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:50] <kiki67100> cfhowlett: Thanks i just asked,have a nice day
[07:50] <Ky1ej> Does any one know why phpmyadmin would display actual PHP Code instead of showing its GUI? I installed mySQL and Apache2 and phpmyadmin from console. I have no httpd.conf file. Only the apache2.conf file. Apparantly I should put some addHandler instead of addType in the file. But I see no addType. Any suggestions?
[07:51] <kiki67100> bubbasaures: You said in pv or here what is the "proxy right" ?
[07:51] <bubbasaures> no pm's ever here look it up
[07:54] <unixius> hello
[07:54] <unixius> quick question about crontab
[07:54] <unixius> where can I find the log for it?
[07:54] <Ben64> syslog
[07:54] <unixius>  /var/log/syslog only seems to have the last few hours?
[07:55] <kiki67100> unixius: in syslog each cron is logged
[07:56] <en1gma> i back. i installed gqrx-sdr but cant find it in the apps search. where does it put it
[07:56] <en1gma> when i try to install it again it says "its already installed"
[07:58] <unixius> kiki67100: how do I look at a specific one then>?
[07:58] <Ben64> en1gma: /usr/bin/gqrx
[07:58] <EriC^^> unixius: nano /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf , remove the comment for cron, you'll get a /var/log/cron.log that should be longer i guess
[07:58] <kiki67100> grep 'your_commande' /var/syslog
[07:58] <en1gma> Ben64 so i just need to make a shortcut?
[07:58] <kiki67100> grep 'your_command' /var/syslog
[07:59] <Ben64> en1gma: or maybe look for it using "gqrx" in the dash
[07:59] <en1gma> ok thanks for the info. preciate it
[07:59] <unixius> ok
[07:59] <unixius> one other thing
[07:59] <unixius> it looks like one of the crons is working
[07:59] <unixius> the other one is not
[07:59] <Ben64> use a script
[08:00] <unixius> the one that IS working is like this:
[08:00] <unixius> */2 * * * * ~/dir/script.sh
[08:00] <unixius> the one that isn't (on the line above) is this:   55 15 * * * ~/dir/script2.sh
[08:00] <unixius> is there anything obviously wrong with that script2 one?
[08:01] <EriC^^> unixius: no, it should run at 3:55pm
[08:01] <EriC^^> unixius: maybe the script has a bug?
[08:01] <Ben64> you should also use full paths in stuff instead of ~/ but thats not necessarily causing a problem
[08:02] <unixius> ah damn
[08:02] <unixius> script2.sh didn't exist
[08:02] <unixius> I renamed it :/
[08:02] <unixius> hopefully that fixed it
[08:03] <unixius> thanks for your help
[08:09] <nodedfree> ok. so there is an option to make any symbolic link to an external url?
[08:09] <nodedfree> i.e: ln -s http://example.com/somepic.jpg somepic.jpg
[08:09] <Ben64> what exactly do you mean
[08:10] <nodedfree> that the picture will not be hosted on my local machine
[08:10] <Ben64> no
[08:11] <nodedfree> maybe alternative way?
[08:11] <Ben64> what are you trying to accomplish
[08:11] <nodedfree> make an external url, an local readable file
[08:12] <Ben64> right, but why
[08:12] <nodedfree> space...
[08:12] <Ben64> well you could use sshfs
[08:13] <Ben64> or nfs, or samba, or anything else designed for network sharing of files
[08:28] <Unnice> Hello, I am trying to connect with ethernet, however, when I plug it in, I can see my ethernet, but it cannot connect. When I run sudo dmesg |grep eth0, te main thing I get is eth0: EEE is disabled
[08:32] <cpslcktrjn> Unnice: do you see your eth0 device when you type 'ip addr'?
[08:32] <Unnice> I do
[08:32] <cpslcktrjn> are you using DHCP or setting a static ip?
[08:33] <cpslcktrjn> do you have an IP when you run ip addr by the way?
[08:33] <Unnice> I believe DHCP but let me check
[08:33] <Unnice> I do
[08:33] <cpslcktrjn> right on!
[08:33] <cpslcktrjn> do you know what your default gateway is? Can you ping it?
[08:34] <Unnice> What would the command be for that?
[08:34] <Unnice> just ping?
[08:34] <cpslcktrjn> yep :)
[08:34] <Unnice> the gateway is the first thing posted?
[08:35] <cpslcktrjn> route -n
[08:35] <Unnice> Also thank you for helping me cpslcktrjn
[08:35] <cpslcktrjn> no problems :)
[08:35] <cpslcktrjn> 'route -n' you'll see the first line, second column. I believe
[08:35] <cpslcktrjn> see if you can ping this
[08:35] <Unnice> i have a -m
[08:35] <Unnice> not a -n
[08:35] <cpslcktrjn> sorry? I dont follow
[08:35] <cpslcktrjn> 'route -n' is the command you'll want to run
[08:36] <cpslcktrjn> n for november
[08:36] <Unnice> Sorry i had a derp moment
[08:36] <Unnice> There is nothing posted under gateway
[08:36] <cpslcktrjn> curious
[08:37] <cpslcktrjn> do you have traceroute installed? what happens when you trace to say…8.8.8.8
[08:39] <Terens> hello
[08:39] <Terens> ban me
[08:40] <cfhowlett> Terens, leave
[08:40] <Unnice> I have to install traceroute
[08:41] <svetlana> Unnice: why?
[08:41] <Unnice> Package traccerout is not avaible
[08:42] <cpslcktrjn> you have mispelled traceroute
[08:42] <Unnice> sorry i did here
[08:42] <Unnice> But not on terminal
[08:42] <cpslcktrjn> ah k
[08:42] <Ben64> pastebin the actual error
[08:42] <Terens> After installing fail2ban my CPU usage has dropped from 5%-10% to 0.5%
[08:42] <Unnice> I do not have internet on the computer
[08:43] <Unnice> So pastebining would be impossible
[08:43] <Ben64> then how do you expect to download the package?
[08:43] <cpslcktrjn> the package was purely for troubleshooting
[08:43] <cpslcktrjn> i suggested it - thought it'd be there by default
[08:43] <cpslcktrjn> @Unnice: do you know what your default gateway should be? Sometimes its 10.1.1.1 or 192.168.1.1
[08:44] <Unnice> believe it is 192.168.1.1
[08:44] <cpslcktrjn> awesome, let's set it statically
[08:44] <Unnice> \o/ sounds like fun on the bun
[08:44] <cpslcktrjn> what version are you using? type cat /etc/lsb-release
[08:44] <cpslcktrjn> and tell me the release
[08:45] <Unnice> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[08:45] <cfhowlett> Unnice, traceroute is available for 14.04.1  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9726810/
[08:46] <cpslcktrjn> cfhowlett: only if he can reach a package repo to download it
[08:47] <cpslcktrjn> Unnice: do you know how to use a text editor? like VIM or nano?
[08:47] <Unnice> I do
[08:47] <cpslcktrjn> awesome :)
[08:47] <Unnice> Might not be the best though
[08:47] <cpslcktrjn> can you please edit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:48] <Unnice> "unkown mime-type"
[08:48] <Unnice> no write permission for file
[08:49] <cpslcktrjn> :-|
[08:49] <cpslcktrjn> you'll need to be root
[08:49] <cpslcktrjn> do you have root access?
[08:49] <Unnice> lemme check
[08:49] <Unnice> and i dont
[08:49]  * Unnice sighs 
[08:50] <cpslcktrjn> hmm, this makes things difficult
[08:50] <Unnice> Sorry :/
[08:51] <Prince> Hi
[08:52] <Unnice> Ah fixed it
[08:52] <cpslcktrjn> what was it?
[08:52] <Unnice> I now have root access
[08:52] <cpslcktrjn> oh right on
[08:52] <Unnice> lol I meant root access sorry
[08:52] <cpslcktrjn> :D
[08:52] <cpslcktrjn> edit that file
[08:52] <Unnice> I am not very good at this in case you couldnt tell
[08:52] <Unnice> ok
[08:53] <Unnice> Permission denied
[08:53] <cpslcktrjn> then you don't have root - i'm afraid
[08:54] <Unnice> says i am running it though...
[08:54] <Unnice> root@name-laptop:~#
[08:55] <cpslcktrjn> curious, you shouldn't be getting permission denied
[08:55] <cpslcktrjn> can you run 'ls /etc/network/'
[08:55] <cpslcktrjn> do you see an interfaces file?
[08:56] <Unnice> as root?
[08:56] <cpslcktrjn> yes
[08:56] <cpslcktrjn> actually, even better
[08:56] <cpslcktrjn> 'ls -lah /etc/network | grep interfaces'
[08:57] <Unnice> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 82 Jan 10 2015 interfaces
[08:58] <Unnice> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0k Apr 3 19:46 interfaces.d
[08:58] <cpslcktrjn> that's fine
[08:58] <cpslcktrjn> type 'vim interfaces'
[08:59] <cpslcktrjn> can you pastebin that file please?
[08:59] <Unnice> I am on a different computer so I have to type it
[08:59] <Unnice> ~
[09:00] <Unnice> ~
[09:00] <Unnice> ~
[09:00] <cpslcktrjn> ah damn
[09:00] <Unnice> 22 ~ all the way down
[09:00] <cpslcktrjn> don't worry about it then
[09:00] <cpslcktrjn> i'll give you something to replace it with
[09:01] <Unnice> on the last line "interfaces" [New File]                   0,0-1   All
[09:01] <cpslcktrjn> ah you were in the wrong working directory
[09:02] <cpslcktrjn> cd /etc/network
[09:02] <cpslcktrjn> vim interfaces
[09:02] <cpslcktrjn> you'll see a stanza about the eth0 interface
[09:02] <cpslcktrjn> replace it with this (note you'll need to fill in the gaps)
[09:03] <cpslcktrjn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9727001/
[09:04] <Unnice> I do not see a stanza about eth0 interface
[09:05] <jarnos_> Is it possible to know if a package is in ubuntu image originally or has been installed afterhand?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> jarnos_, check the logs for install date/time
[09:06] <rubiksmomo> Hey. I used setsid command to run a script in background. How do I stop/kill the session it created? I can't find it in "ps -e".
[09:09] <jarnos_> cfhowlett, can you do it without running the image?
[09:09] <cpslcktrjn> Unnice: do you see anything?
[09:09] <Unnice> auto lo
[09:09] <cfhowlett> jarnos_, eh, no.  sorry.  that would only work on an installed system, not an image.  I guess you are customizing the .iso?
[09:09] <Unnice> idace lo inet loopback
[09:10] <cpslcktrjn> and that's it?
[09:10] <Unnice> ~
[09:10] <Unnice> About 15 of those
[09:10] <Unnice> and at the bottom
[09:10] <Unnice> "interfaces" 3L, 82C              1,1    All
[09:10] <cpslcktrjn> alright
[09:10] <cpslcktrjn> cool
[09:10] <cpslcktrjn> can you add that stanza from pastebin?
[09:11] <cpslcktrjn> substiting the netmask, broadcast and address
[09:11] <Unnice> sure
[09:11] <jarnos_> cfhowlett, no, I need to know, if a package is originally in a mythbuntu iso or have I installed when I booted from it.
[09:11] <Unnice> directly below iface lo inet loopback?
[09:11] <cpslcktrjn> yep
[09:11] <cpslcktrjn> make sure it's not in the middle of anything
[09:11] <cpslcktrjn> either up the very top or very bottom
[09:12] <Unnice> Ok
[09:13] <Unnice> How many spaces should address be?
[09:13] <Unnice> Or does it not matter?
[09:14] <cpslcktrjn> it doesn't matter
[09:14] <cpslcktrjn> but 4 :)
[09:14] <JustGiveMeANickN> good
[09:15] <Unnice> address meaning ip?
[09:16] <cpslcktrjn> meaning the IP that your server should currently have - yes
[09:16] <cpslcktrjn> be sure that it doesn't conflict with something else on your network
[09:16] <Unnice> ok
[09:16] <Unnice> Might take me a little bit, I am going to have to look up how to figure each one out
[09:21] <Unnice> when i do ip addr show
[09:22] <Unnice> it only gives me inet6
[09:22] <Unnice> and not inet
[09:23] <avernos> hello, i have created a ppp connection from terminal, and i'm trying to set the traffic through it, if ppp0 is available, traffic goes there or i need to set it manually
[09:26] <theadmin> avernos: Well, to check you can run, for example, "wget -qO- http://ip.dnsexit.com/" and see if the IP you get matches your ppp0 IP.
[09:28] <Unnice> I am sorry, but I cannot seem to find my ip for eth0 anywhere
[09:31] <JustGiveMeANickN> good
[09:59] <rubiksmomo> How can I run a shell script in background when I login? I added following command to "startup applications", but it creates a tiny terminal window: gnome-terminal --geometry=0x0 -e "bash -c 'bash ~/Documents/autoScreenshot.sh ~/Pictures/autoScreenshots 1'"
[10:00] <EriC^^> rubiksmomo: did you try adding bash ~/Documents/autoScreenshot.sh ~/Pictures/autoScreenshots 1
[10:01] <supaplex> rubiksmomo: ( foo.sh &)&
[10:01] <rubiksmomo> Is there a way to test those without logging out?
[10:03] <gulzar>  I have some P4 CPUs. Need to revive them. It can only boot CD , no DVD, No pendrive. Which distro do you recommend? Lubuntu doesn't fit on CD ( I tried debian, but its repo are mess)
[10:04] <daftykins> gulzar: mini.iso install would work. claiming P4's can't boot DVD is very strange, if a system can boot CD and it has a DVD drive connected, it'll do both
[10:04] <rubiksmomo> OK, I tried both of those in "startup applications", but neither did anything. Only the original one works.
[10:06] <gulzar> daftykins: they only have CD drives. Network install is not able to download behind proxy server. I set up network, http_proxy , but it says server doesnot support <current> release. I tried both unicorn  and trusty
[10:06] <daftykins> sure you specified the proxy correctly?
[10:07] <daftykins> you're out of luck if you can't get that to work
[10:07] <gulzar> daftykins: yup, I am working with proxies from past 1.5 yr. And currently on Arch
[10:07] <daftykins> ah the ricer distro
[10:08] <gulzar> daftykins: seems like have to go with Archbang :|
[10:08] <daftykins> so some distros are working with this proxy and some not?
[10:09] <rubiksmomo> How can I run a shell script in background when I login? I added following command to "startup applications", but it creates a tiny terminal window: gnome-terminal --geometry=0x0 -e "bash -c 'bash ~/Documents/autoScreenshot.sh ~/Pictures/autoScreenshots 1'"
[10:09] <gulzar> daftykins: all worked except ubuntu minimal
[10:09] <gulzar> daftykins: fedora, suse, debian, bodhi, mint, arch .....
[10:09] <daftykins> perhaps it's a bug
[10:10] <gulzar> daftykins: maybe ..
[10:11] <Toggi3> rubiksmomo: Why not just add bash ~/Documents/autoScreenshot.sh ~/Pictures/autoScreenshots 1' to startup applications?
[10:11] <rubiksmomo> Toggi3: cause it doesn't seem to do anything
[10:12] <gulzar> daftykins: thank ypou
[10:12] <gulzar> daftykins: *you
[10:13] <Toggi3> rubiksmomo: what is the expected outcome of that shell script?
[10:13] <rubiksmomo> Toggi3: it takes screenshots and saves them to that directory
[10:13] <rubiksmomo> Runs forever and sleeps a second between each one
[10:14] <Ben64> seems wasteful
[10:15] <Toggi3> try bash -c 'bash ~/Documents/autoScreenshot.sh ~/Pictures/autoScreenshots 1'&
[10:16] <Toggi3> rubiksmomo: see above incase you didn't see it due to not being highlighted :)
[10:16] <rubiksmomo> I saw it, I'll have a try
[10:21] <rubiksmomo> Toggi3: doesn't seem to do anything. No terminal window visible, no screenshots being taken by the script.
[10:21] <uovobw> hi *, where/what can i look for a problem where i have a ubuntu 14.04 running on an x86 host that, after some 20 days, has init using 450 megs of ram instead of the usual 4?
[10:22] <rubiksmomo> Only this seems to work in startup applications: gnome-terminal --geometry=0x0 -e "bash -c 'bash ~/Documents/autoScreenshot.sh ~/Pictures/autoScreenshots 1'"
[10:24] <OerHeks> uovobw, try 'top' in terminal, to see what application is responsible.
[10:24] <OerHeks> and see if you have 'zombie processes'
[10:26] <uovobw> OerHeks: tried that, the application responsible is /sbin/init (!!!!) and there are no zombies (there were in the past - i have logging that captured that - but are no more) is zombie process memory inherited by init upon reap?
[10:27] <adrian_> hello
[10:27] <adrian_> i try to install ubuntu 14 32 bit on my laptop, but ll i get is black screen on boot, although the live usb, from which i am chatting right now, works fine. can ayone please help ?
[10:28] <OerHeks> uovobw, then check your logs, ~/,xsession-errors in home and logs in /var/log/
[10:28] <OerHeks> are the growing?
[10:28] <apple> some one explain me how can i connect wd 2tb cloud to Linux Mint 17 "Qiana"
[10:28] <OerHeks> !mint | Guest29932
[10:29] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | Adran,
[10:29] <uovobw> OerHeks: they are growing but not outside expected size/rate. at the moment the system seems to work fine. that used ram also is not cached, due to slabtop and htop reporting so (can i trust these tools?)
[10:29] <adrian_> did not work
[10:30] <OerHeks> htop is oke, dunno about slabtop
[10:30] <OerHeks> uovobw, hard to say what could be the issue
[10:31] <uovobw> OerHeks: yup, that is why i tried here. thanks for the help in the meantime.
[10:35] <waverwaver> hello
[10:35] <waverwaver> hello
[10:35] <svetlana> hi
[10:37]  * mrguser slaps 32NAAZKJ8 around a bit with a large E63-1
[10:43] <mrguser> sojib
[10:44] <OerHeks> !ot | mrguser
[10:52] <tonygaga> could you please take a vote at http://strawpoll.me/3397261 ... would be awesome
[10:53] <cfhowlett> tonygaga, no no and no.  wrong channel for that kind of stuff
[10:53] <OerHeks> tonygaga, never.
[10:53] <tonygaga> cfhowlett: it is ubuntu so what's wrong about that
[10:53] <cfhowlett> tonygaga, I don't click strange links
[10:53] <OerHeks> no polls please
[10:54] <tonygaga> "strange links" ok so i'm going to ask the exact same question here
[10:54] <tonygaga> do you have / and /home on seperate partitions? 0 total votes
[10:54] <cfhowlett> tonygaga, no polls in this channel.
[10:55] <tonygaga> cfhowlett: ok got it chill
[10:56] <tonygaga> see? that's why i made a poll..
[10:56] <EriC^^> tu es trop chou tonygaga
[10:59] <zamba> i need to run an old version of php on ubuntu.. how do i proceed with this?
[10:59] <zamba> i need php4
[11:02] <philip> hello want to copy all file in a nano editor
[11:03] <OerHeks> zamba, you might need to build it yourself, good luck https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php4/6:4.4.4-8
[11:03] <tonygaga> cfhowlett: OerHeks: can i get a yes/no from you guys?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> tonygaga, oerheks was very clear: NO POLLS in this channel. that's the answer
[11:03] <OerHeks> tonygaga, stop it please, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:05] <tonygaga> how is this a poll if i kindly ask you if you recommend having root and home on seperate partitions on ubuntu ?
[11:05] <FreeFrm> Anyone mind asking a few simple questions for me?
[11:06] <FreeFrm> TOTAL NEWB WARNING THOUGH (sorta)
[11:06] <tonygaga> FreeFrm: go
[11:06] <cfhowlett> FreeFrm, details plz
[11:06] <Bobbo_> tonygaga: because that's not what you asked, lol.
[11:07] <FreeFrm> Okay, I want to run an apache server to serve as a splash screen for Wi_fi I give my neighbors for free
[11:07] <tonygaga> Bobbo_: geez Bobbo_ so i ask it now. i just wanted to make it easier to answer
[11:07] <FreeFrm> I saw few options and think the shit, let me find the option real quick
[11:07] <FreeFrm> Running DD-wrt on a  nighthawk
[11:08] <FreeFrm> WiFi dog, found their documentation and stuff so good there
[11:08] <ohmy> hello everybody
[11:08] <FreeFrm> I only have windows machines and want to run on bare metal eventualyl but just want to set this in a vm for now
[11:08] <mjayk> haya ohmy
[11:09] <ohmy> using 14.10 i'm looking for the most complete PPA containing Qt 5.4 modules, any idea please ?
[11:09] <FreeFrm> So just looking for recommendations for a distro and vm client
[11:09] <FreeFrm> windows 7 or 8.1
[11:09] <FreeFrm> the 8.1 serves as my HTPC and is limited on RAM win 7 is more geared to gaming but doesn't get a ton of love
[11:09] <FreeFrm> Any help?
[11:09] <tonygaga> FreeFrm: does the wifi need a a login page?
[11:09] <FreeFrm> Not really
[11:10] <FreeFrm> It is open now on virtual network interfaces that is isolated from my lan
[11:10] <FreeFrm> But I just want to have it say something
[11:10] <tonygaga> FreeFrm: that they're using your free wifi?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> FreeFrm, easiest fix would be to assign a login but sounds like you really want to complicate this ....
[11:10] <FreeFrm> Want to give the old folks around me some interwebz so maybe they bake me a cookie
[11:11] <FreeFrm> Ehh, not really, I have a big circuit
[11:11] <FreeFrm> and they are nice
[11:11] <FreeFrm> So it's a little something I can do to help them out, just covers maybe three house right around ,me
[11:12] <FreeFrm> plus nice intro to linux that I need some more experince in
[11:12] <tonygaga> FreeFrm: i wouldn't put too much effort in it.. if you want to share your wifi (which i don't reccommend for your own safety) i would just make it open and maybe write it in the essid
[11:12] <FreeFrm> appreciate the concern tonygaga
[11:12] <FreeFrm> but kinda stuck on the idea
[11:13] <Ben64> doesn't really sound like it is on topic for #ubuntu though
[11:13] <FreeFrm> sure
[11:13] <FreeFrm> Okay, I can move on.
[11:13] <Ben64> there is #ubuntu-offtopic though
[11:13] <FreeFrm> So can I just ask if you wanted a small apache server running in a vm what would you choose if you had to install it on a windows machien?
[11:14] <Ben64> well since you're in ubuntu, the answers you get would probably be biased towards ubuntu
[11:14] <FreeFrm> sure, I am down for that since that is the only distro I have installed
[11:14] <FreeFrm> plus I can partition a machine and dual boot so the vm doesn't lag too far behind
[11:15] <FreeFrm> but I want to have them both running and am limited on hardware atm
[11:16] <FreeFrm> thaks Ben64
[11:17] <FreeFrm> I'll move over there
[11:17] <FreeFrm> carry on
[11:21] <Bobbo_> So Sunday I installed Ubuntu 14.04 over my old 12.04 install (keeping my /home partition), but now after login the DE freezes and everything I've tried doesn't seem to work. Nouveau and nvidia driver (331) both cause it, changing desktop environment hasn't fix it, and checking the unity app thing in ccsm hasn't fixed it. Although, if I switch to one of the terminals I can stop lightdm and then startx and get into a working desktop environment. Anyone know what
[11:21] <Bobbo_> 's wrong please? :3
[11:22] <cfhowlett> Bobbo, shot in the dark but ... did you format the target partition?  if not, config files ...
[11:25] <Bobbo_> cfhowlett: I formatted /, and mv'd my config directory to manually merge in what I want.
[11:25] <cfhowlett> Bobbo, as I said; shot in the dark...
[11:26] <Bobbo_> Yeah, I've tried so many different things I'm not really sure what to try any more.
[11:26] <uovobw> Bobbo_: sometimes a full /tmp or some permission errors can be the cause. are you sure your uid in the previous system is the same as the current one?
[11:27] <daftykins> Bobbo_: use the guest session for a bit and see if it behaves, maybe
[11:27] <Bobbo_> uovobw: df reports 29% usage on / (it's 20GB partition). Not sure how I'd check the uid.
[11:28] <Bobbo_> daftykins: guest misbehaves too.
[11:28] <sulabh_> hi
[11:28] <daftykins> live session? :)
[11:28] <daftykins> sulabh_: hello
[11:28] <Bobbo_> What do you mean?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> Bobbo, reboot from the USB
[11:28] <daftykins> run from a flash drive for a bit
[11:28] <uovobw> Bobbo_: sudo cat /etc/passwd | grep <youruser> and then check that the number is the same. OR check that a file that you are sure was there in the old system is user you and group you. if it's user you group something else than that is the problem
[11:28] <sulabh_> plz any one tell me how to start contribute in ubuntu community../?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> !contribute | sulabh_
[11:29] <sulabh_> i am new in IRC channel
[11:30] <sulabh_> thank you
[11:30] <MACscr> I dont get this error im seeing in my syslog on my ubuntu system "postfix/sendmail[10486]: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory". Am i using postfix or sendmail, lol?
[11:31] <MACscr> appears to be sendmail when im looking at the ps output
[11:31] <MACscr> but no idea why its saying postfix there
[11:32] <somsip> !contribute | sulabh_
[11:32] <Bobbo_> uovobw: https://www.zerobin.net/?f6f20728fd041899#0OYIA1+rBx8JTYBkhKVP7IZFPsYbZCHF27zaDkjM1Ww= - So that's good?
[11:33] <uovobw> Bobbo_: it is, the problem must be somewhere else then. sorry, worth a try
[11:34] <Bobbo_> Maybe it's lightdm. :3
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:36] <daftykins> BluesKaj: morning o/
[11:37] <ffledgling> Hello, can someone tell me which kernel headers are the "right" one on Ubuntu?
[11:38] <ffledgling> I see atleast 3 different ones linux-headers-<version>-{,generic,lowlatency}
[11:39] <daftykins> ffledgling: generic. lowlatency is for the... low latency kernel.
[11:39] <OerHeks> i think the linux-headers-<number> without generic/lowlatency ?
[11:40] <OerHeks> that is the verion i have installed currently
[11:40] <ffledgling> daftykins: there's a separate low latency kernel ... okay
[11:40] <ffledgling> OerHeks: Yeah I have that one pre-installed as well
[11:40] <BluesKaj> 'Morning daftykins
[11:47] <simong> I ran tar -xzvf foo.tar.gz in my /root directory earlier. I can now no longer ssh into that box
[11:48] <simong> Did I fubar the /root directory and if so, is there any way to fix it? :/
[11:49] <adsc> you should use a normal user anyway
[11:49] <daftykins> got physical access to look inside?
[11:49] <simong> No :(
[11:49] <daftykins> you don't SSH as root though, do you?
[11:49] <daftykins> if you do you're doing Linux wrong
[11:49] <simong> yes, I know all that
[11:49] <adsc> do you have another user with ssh access?
[11:49] <rjsalts> simong: you have a copy of foo.tar.gz you can access?
[11:49] <adsc> if not, and the box is remote, you are probably fooked
[11:50] <simong> rjsalts: yeah I have it here
[11:50] <rjsalts> simong: does it have a .bashrc or something in it?
[11:50] <simong> no it doesn't have a bashrc in it
[11:51] <simong> it did have a ./ when extracting
[11:51] <simong> I still have the terminal output, let me paste it somewhere
[11:51] <rjsalts> simong: can you ssh with a command? i.e. ssh foo.example.org "whoami" or something?
[11:51] <simong> No, I'm getting permission denied
[11:51] <rjsalts> simong: rather than trying to get interactive shell
[11:51] <simong> it refused my pubkey
[11:52] <rjsalts> simong: ah, so it's changed permissions of root or .ssh to be group or other writable
[11:52] <simong> possibly?
[11:52] <simong> http://pastebin.com/YZNBHKid
[11:53] <simong> I can still ssh into the box as another user
[11:53] <rjsalts> simong: yeah, you will have to do that and fix the permissions on root's home directory
[11:53] <daftykins> that's what we asked earlier, can you 'sudo -i' ?
[11:54] <simong> I'm trying to get root privilege
[11:54] <simong> I'm not sure this user has it
[11:54] <daftykins> so why do you allow root login 0o
[11:54] <rjsalts> simong: you can try su too, if you've set and know the root password
[11:59] <simong> ok, phew I managed to get root privileges
[12:01] <daftykins> simong: anything quirky looking from an ls -al of /root ?
[12:02] <simong> yeah, the user:group rights aren't root:root anymore but 502:staff
[12:03] <simong> Reverting those back to root:root fixed it
[12:03] <simong> Next up, disabling root ssh :f
[12:03] <daftykins> O_O
[12:03] <daftykins> heh
[12:03] <Bobbo_> simong: That probably should of been one of the first things to do. :P
[12:04] <simong> Yeah, I've inherited this environment and I'm by no means a sysop/devops person
[12:04] <simong> just trying to keep the train rolling :(
[12:06] <daftykins> simong: is it a supported version at least? :D
[12:06] <simong> sort of, it's 12.04
[12:07] <simong> but it's been neglected for a while now
[12:07] <daftykins> ah that's fine 'til April 2017
[12:07] <daftykins> nothing wrong there
[12:16] <rjsalts> simong: I don't see a problem with root via ssh, but I'd put it on key only and/or forcing a command
[12:16] <simong> Yeah, it is on key only
[12:18] <Bobbo_> So... Switching to gdm hasn't worked either. =/
[12:18] <Bobbo_> ugh
[12:22] <daryoush> This seems intresting
[12:22] <EriC^^> indeed
[12:23] <f3lix> I'm having trouble debugging an aufs mount that I've set up with autofs. I tried setting the debug level to verbose and debug in the autofs conf level, but there's no output in either of the usual places (dmesg, kern.log, messages)… Anyone who knows about this?
[12:23] <daryoush> I guess everyone here have expertise with Linux Ubuntu?
[12:23] <cfhowlett> daryoush, #lubuntu has a channel
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | daryoush
[12:24] <daryoush> ill check it out
[12:24] <daryoush> !lubuntu
[12:28] <paulovap> Hello friends, need help with my sdcard reader always on READ-ONLY mode (Ubuntu 14.10)
[12:29] <paulovap> tried to look on foruns but to no avail
[12:29] <calimero_82> hi
[12:29] <paulovap> realtek card reader ( Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 5289 (rev 01))
[12:29] <paulovap> ideas?
[12:29] <EriC^^> paulovap: did you mount it?
[12:30] <daftykins> paulovap: so it's not just the auto mounts picking ro?
[12:30] <paulovap> i tried to mount manually but it does not mount in read only
[12:30] <paulovap> * read-write
[12:31] <EriC^^> paulovap: try sudo mount -o -remount,rw /path/to/mountpoint
[12:31] <calimero_82> i'd like to add a ppa in lubuntu 1404,but i've read it's better not add external ppa to  not pollute the system, what should i do? thanks a lot
[12:32] <EriC^^> calimero_82: see if there's a package in the repos that does the same thing
[12:32] <cfhowlett> calimero_82, you can add a ppa, but as ppa's are unsupported here, you break it, you fix it
[12:32] <paulovap> EriC^^, mount: can't find /dev/mmcblk0p1 in /etc/fstab
[12:33] <EriC^^> paulovap: remount not -remount
[12:33] <paulovap> EriC^^, same output
[12:34] <Ben64> paulovap: mountpoint, not device
[12:34] <EriC^^> paulovap: is it already mounted?
[12:34] <paulovap> sorry no
[12:34] <paulovap> mount: cannot remount /dev/mmcblk0p1 read-write, is write-protected
[12:34] <paulovap> the output now
[12:34] <theadmin> Are you sure it's not the card itself?
[12:35] <Ben64> then it is write protected, move the slider
[12:35] <paulovap> tried on windows
[12:35] <theadmin> Some SD cards have a write-protection slider
[12:35] <paulovap> works fine
[12:35] <paulovap> and tried changing the slider too :(
[12:36] <Ben64> try a different sd reader
[12:36] <paulovap> Ben64, tried the card on different reader (another notebook) works as well
[12:36] <paulovap> seems to be an issue with my realtek sd reader
[12:36] <Ben64> there you go then
[12:37] <paulovap> maybe a driver not loaded
[12:37] <paulovap> EriC^^, any suggestions apart from changing computer?
[12:37] <Bobbo_> uhh...
[12:38] <Bobbo_> So I sudo service lightdm stop
[12:38] <Bobbo_> And then startx
[12:38] <Bobbo_> But now I dunno how to end it.
[12:38] <Ben64> don't do startx
[12:38] <EriC^^> paulovap: what kind of filesystem is it? try sudo parted -l
[12:38] <Bobbo_> Ben64: My system is broken, lol.
[12:38] <Bobbo_> I just want to end it so I can try doing stuff (that'll complain that it's running).
[12:38] <Ben64> Bobbo: ok? startx might only break stuff more
[12:39] <paulovap> EriC^^, i think i does not matter because i can't even format the partitions
[12:39] <Bobbo_> What's wrong with startx? :3
[12:39] <Ben64> its not the right way
[12:39] <EriC^^> paulovap: maybe delete and create a new partition table and partitions
[12:39] <Bobbo_> 'the right way' is currently broken.
[12:40] <Ben64> Bobbo_: probably because you use startx.
 So Sunday I installed Ubuntu 14.04 over my old 12.04 install (keeping my /home partition), but now after login the DE freezes and everything I've tried doesn't seem to work. Nouveau and nvidia driver (331) both cause it, changing desktop environment hasn't fix it, and checking the unity app thing in ccsm hasn't fixed it. Although, if I switch to one of the terminals I can stop lightdm and then startx and get into a working desktop environment. Anyone
[12:40] <Bobbo_> know what
 's wrong please? :3
[12:40] <paulovap> EriC^^, dmesg | tail gives me something interesting: [  950.678620] mmc0: cannot verify signal voltage switch
[12:40] <paulovap> is it important?
[12:40] <paulovap> partition table: msdos
[12:41] <EriC^^> fat partition?
[12:41] <paulovap> file system : fat32
[12:41] <paulovap> fat32 file system
[12:41] <EriC^^> do you have a pc with windows
[12:42] <paulovap> Yes, but it's a brand new card
[12:42] <EriC^^> try to check it for errors
[12:42] <paulovap> okay
[12:53] <paulovap> EriC^^, nothing. Formated there and nothing two. Always read only
[12:54] <paulovap> open in mac with no problem too
[12:54] <paulovap> must be a driver issue since lspci does not recognize it
[12:56] <daftykins> i think i've read before about realtek card reader issues
[12:57] <paulovap> daftykins, i've been reading about it too. But mostly about not reading the card at all
[12:58] <daftykins> mmm
[13:03] <mwak> hello
[13:04] <daftykins> hi
[13:04] <ppf> Bobbo: is there anything in xorg's log files?
[13:04] <Bobbo> Not from what I can tell.
[13:05] <Bobbo> I've given up for now, going for backup n' nuke.
[13:05] <ppf> you said changing the de didn't fix it, which DE did you try?
[13:06] <Bobbo> gnome 2, gnome 3, xfce, unity
[13:06] <ppf> hm, okay
[13:07] <ppf> a colleague of mine had the exact same problem yesterday, and he was able to work around it by installing xfce
[13:07] <ppf> in his case, dbus proved broken upon X startup
[13:08] <ppf> did you run debsums to verify the integrity of your installed packages?
[13:11] <calimero_82> bye
[13:14] <Bobbo> DC'd after I said what drivers I had tried.
[13:17] <rohan_> Hello
[13:17] <svetlana> hi
[13:18] <rohan_> Is this the placer wherre I can get support for Ubuntu
[13:19] <BluesKaj> rohan_, yes, just ask your question
[13:22] <paulovap> EriC^^, hey i made it work! upgrade the kernel. So probably bad driver.
[13:22] <rohan_> How do I hide a user in Ubuntu.I tried adding the username to users.conf but it does'nt work.Instead it says to change settings in 'accountsservice'.
[13:22] <paulovap> thanks
[13:22] <rohan_> I use Ubuntu 14.04
[13:31] <g105b> I've tried to create a .desktop for the launcher to launch a QT application, but when I click the icon, it spawns a new launcher icon with a '?' logo... any help?
[13:32] <yesudeep`> Namaste. I've been trying to install Ubuntu 14.10 on my 17 inch MacBook Pro 5,2 (early 2009 model) to dual boot it with OS X Yosemite. However, I've been running into an annoying problem with the display driver. I'd appreciate some help trying to figure this out and get a functional GUI.
[13:32] <gansteed> how can I remove the mail command ? I have not install mailx or other command line mail clients
[13:32] <yesudeep`> I'm currently connected to IRC via a tty using Emacs. And X doesn't start on my machine. As soon as I turn on my system, I am dropped into the shell login prompt.
[13:33] <yesudeep`> How do I start X? Also, where can I check the configuration/logs for the X server?
[13:33] <daftykins> sudo service lightdm start
[13:33] <daftykins> yesudeep`: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[13:34] <yesudeep`> daftykins, sure. Give me a moment.
[13:34] <gansteed> I want  to find out  the command belongs to which package, is there any tips?
[13:34] <yesudeep`> sudo service lightdm start fails to start. I'll paste the log for you..
[13:37] <daftykins> yesudeep`: what processor speed is your model?
[13:37] <yesudeep`> daftykins, https://gist.github.com/6d7f110d1063bf99a883
[13:37] <daftykins> http://www.everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/?search_keywords=MacBookPro5,2
[13:37] <daftykins> ugh such an unpleasant paste site :P raw button isn't so bad i guess
[13:38] <yesudeep`> daftykins, heh. Well, I tried using pastebinit via emacs, and it says 'pastebinit API has changed'
[13:38] <yesudeep`> daftykins, hence, I've used gist. :)
[13:39] <daftykins> yesudeep`: i mean that one is the one i don't like the look of ;)
[13:39] <daftykins> oh didn't see the first line
[13:39] <daftykins> i'd just have run it from bash
[13:40] <yesudeep`> Processor is: 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo (T9600), MacBook Pro "Core 2 Duo" 2.9 17" Mid 2009
[13:40] <daftykins> what on earth, it claims you have two GPUs 0o
[13:40] <renan_> Would `start on started beanstalkd` work for a upstart script, given that beanstalkd is using SysV?
[13:40] <yesudeep`> yes, i do. I have a GT9600 and a GT9400 on this macbook
[13:41] <daftykins> err
[13:41] <yesudeep`> hehe.
[13:41] <daftykins> yesudeep`: so it is, what a quirky setup. where did you get nvidia 340 from? manual install from the website?
[13:43] <daftykins> !mac
[13:44] <yesudeep`> i've tried the nvidia-331 ubuntu package. It appeared to work until I received a kernel upgrade. After that, my system stopped booting. I've reimaged my system, and tried nvidia-340 from the nvidia xorg edgers repo. which apparently, caused flickering redrawing parts of the screen (something to do with full screen repainting). All was fine, and I received another update. That caused the nvidia-340 driver to be autom
[13:44] <yesudeep`> atically uninstalled. Right now I've tried to install the drivers from nvidia's Website.
[13:45] <Dwarf> How do I enable 256 colours on ubuntu 14.10?
[13:46] <Dwarf> I tried putting TERM=xterm-256color in my /etc/profile
[13:46] <Dwarf> But there is no xterm-256color in /usr/share/terminfo/x/
[13:46] <Dwarf> Only xterm+256color
[13:47] <daftykins> yesudeep`: mmm, there's nothing in the config that suggests to me why it suddenly decides to delete both and terminate. there was a bug with not regenerating the 331 module on new kernel install i think, but fresh installing that should work just fine - i wouldn't go to the website and wouldn't go to xorg edgers. maybe it's worth trying a xorg.conf that explicitly picks the GPU and display setup
[13:49] <yesudeep`> daftykins: interesting. i should attempt to uninstall the nvidia drivers then
[13:49] <daftykins> yeah i'd purge nvidia*
[13:50] <yesudeep`> heh. that sounds ominous. :P
[13:51] <Dwarf> /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-256color works
[13:51] <yesudeep`> alright. let me try this and get back.
[13:51] <yesudeep`> bbiab
[14:00] <nodedfree> has anyone experience with fuse?
[14:00] <daftykins> can you be more specific about your issue?
[14:00] <nodedfree> # modprobe fuse | throws > FATAL: Module fuse not found.
[14:01] <nodedfree> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
[14:01] <nodedfree> Linux server 2.6.32-042stab081.3
[14:02] <nodedfree> i followed few posts from google.. none helped me
[14:07] <arcsky> hello when i edit /etc/networks/interfaces should i restart /etc/init.d/networking ?
[14:11] <daftykins> arcsky: full reboot is best, or ifdown then up
[14:25] <faLUCE> hello, can you suggest a good countdown timer for ubuntu? I tried gnome-clocks but it has a bad sound and it's not configurable
[14:26] <Tachikomas> arcsky , sometime /etc/init.d/networking restart does not enable all the interfaces. Reboot is better.
[14:31] <Guddu> Is there a way to capture HTTP Traffic on a particular host inside a Ubuntu Local machine?
[14:31] <OerHeks> faLUCE, maybe this answer is what you need > http://askubuntu.com/a/501205
[14:31] <Guddu> Apart from Wireshark
[14:31] <daftykins> tcpdump
[14:32] <rago> exit
[14:34] <Tachikomas> Guddu tcpdump on lo
[14:34] <Guddu> daftykins, Tachikomas Thanks
[14:34] <arcsky> silly to have a reboot a linux machine when change IP address
[14:34] <daftykins> arcsky: i gave you two options.
[14:34] <Guddu> What is the best way to installl tcpdum on ubuntu?
[14:35] <Tachikomas> apt-get install tcpdump ;)
[14:35] <somsip> !find tcdump
[14:35] <somsip> !find tcpdump
[14:35] <Pici> p36
[14:36] <bipul> !info libpacap
[14:36] <bu5hm4n> hello, are the devs of libappindicator-gtk online ?
[14:37] <cfhowlett> bu5hm4n, devs don't really hang out here
[14:37] <bu5hm4n> cfhowlett: where can I find them ? :)
[14:38] <cfhowlett> bu5hm4n, if you've a problem, they'd prefer a bug report.  otherwise do apt-cache show PACKAGENAME and read the notes for contact/wiki details
[14:38] <bu5hm4n> its not about the package, its about the api :/
[14:38] <bu5hm4n> but #gtk seems very dead
[14:38] <Pici> bu5hm4n: Try #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:38] <Guddu> apt-get install tcpdump worked. Thanks for being patient with me. Ia m new to Ubuntu :)
[14:38] <bipul> !find libpcap
[14:39] <Pici> !msgthebot
[14:39] <bu5hm4n> Pici: thx :)
[14:42] <bipul> Guddu, Are you a Tcpdump programmer?
[14:42] <SuperLag> So much fun. Trying to run install with 14.04.1 amd64 desktop installer... and it's just spinning at the first "Preparing to install Ubuntu" screen.
[14:42] <Guddu> bipul, No
[14:42] <SuperLag> I've specified the wifi, and checked all the options.... and.... nothing.
[14:43] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, verify the .iso?
[14:44] <punkgeek> i cant understand, my domain cached on my laptop with past domain ip, how to clear this cache?
[14:44] <EriC^^> SuperLag: did you try to press the small arrow? it opens a terminal that says what's going on
[14:44] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: yeah, it checks out.
[14:44] <somsip> punkgeek: usually down to your DNS provider and the TTL on the record
[14:44] <punkgeek> how?
[14:45] <somsip> punkgeek: I ping www.server.com and the DNS server caches the IP for TTL seconds. If the record is set with a TTL of 600 secs, there is no way that will get refreshed for 10 mins.
[14:46] <somsip> punkgeek: if I ping again after TTL, the DNS server will see the entry it has is expired and re-request it from the nameserver. Off topic though, so that's all you get from me on this
[14:46] <punkgeek> root@AVMCP:~# ping avmcp.almahost.co.uk
[14:46] <punkgeek> PING AVMCP.almahost.co.uk (88.150.229.52) 56(84) bytes of data.
[14:46] <punkgeek> ^C
[14:46] <punkgeek> --- AVMCP.almahost.co.uk ping statistics ---
[14:46] <punkgeek> 32 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 30999ms
[14:47] <punkgeek> but on my pc i get onther ip
[14:50] <yourbeau> punkgeek, your computer has been compromised
[14:51] <somsip> !fud  | yourbeau
[14:51] <OerHeks> punkgeek, me too. >> 64 bytes from ukvps.almahost.co.uk (31.3.249.11): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=19.3 ms
[14:51] <SuperLag> EriC^^: where exactly is this small arrow? I don't see one.
[14:51] <punkgeek> so how to clean ?
[14:51] <Tachikomas> Does anyone try to install ubuntu with a / over 50 Tb ?
[14:51] <yourbeau> someone, sup ?
[14:52] <daftykins> Tachikomas: why are you having issues?
[14:52] <Tachikomas> cant install , on 14.04 and 14.10 server edition... when i reboot "/ not found" :/
[14:53] <Tachikomas> in all case.
[14:53] <Tachikomas> i try different filesystem sutch as ext4 and reiserfs
[14:53] <krypton> Anybody seen performance increase using preload and ureadahead?
[14:53] <OerHeks> Tachikomas, is this a raid ?
[14:53] <Tachikomas> yep. Raid 6 on 12 driv
[14:53] <punkgeek> no body help me? :D
[14:54] <daftykins> Tachikomas: ext4 different? what did you start with?
[14:54] <Tachikomas> i try ext4 in first
[14:54] <daftykins> punkgeek: different DNS servers between systems?
[14:54] <OerHeks> punkgeek, i confirmed an other IP, not sure that url has different mirrors in your country ?
[14:54] <Tachikomas> but, i can install wheezy 64 bit with ext4... so, i'm looking why i cant.
[14:55] <punkgeek> im using google dns
[14:55] <somsip> punkgeek: what OS are you running on the two computers?
[14:55] <punkgeek> ubutnu
[14:56] <daftykins> Tachikomas: well debian is irrelevant here
[14:56] <somsip> punkgeek: DNS setup on either of them?
[14:56] <punkgeek> yes
[14:57] <Tachikomas> i know... but i think its a bug on the installer of ubuntu.
[14:57] <somsip> punkgeek: so you want to know how to clear the cache of a local DNS service?
[14:57] <punkgeek> yes
[14:57] <cnnx> whats the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade, i just found out about apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:58] <somsip> punkgeek: a variety of commands here http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/flush-dns-cache-ubuntu-13-04-12-10/
[14:58] <SuperLag> I just want to get Ubuntu installed again. :( **head desk**
[14:58] <avid_fan> cnnx: upgrade just applies any updates to currently installed packages, dist-upgrade upgrades the OS to the latest version of Ubuntu.
[14:58] <Pici> avid_fan: no
[14:58] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | cnnx avid_fan
[14:58] <avid_fan> Pici: No? My bad.
[14:59] <cnnx> avid_fan: like kernel updates?
[14:59]  * Pici pokes ubottu 
[14:59] <punkgeek> root@AVMCP:~# sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean restart
[14:59] <punkgeek> root@AVMCP:~#
[14:59] <punkgeek> do not do anything
[14:59] <avid_fan> Well, I learned something new. :-)
[15:01] <cnnx> ubottu: i use gentoo mainly, there's no such thing as a distribution upgrade in gentoo
[15:01] <Tachikomas> :)
[15:02] <avid_fan> cnnx: I my experience, I use "apt-get update" & "apt-get upgrade" to keep my systems up to date. I have not yet tried dist-upgrade, although it seems I am mistaken about its purpose.
[15:02] <OerHeks> cnnx, dist-upgrade is not distribution-upgrade.
[15:02] <cnnx> whata a distribution upgrade anwyays?
[15:02] <cnnx> everything is just pacakges
[15:03] <jpds> avid_fan: Yeah, dist-upgrade will do upgrades that add/remove packages in the process.
[15:04] <chu> Should I run upgrade first, and then dist-upgrade ^^
[15:04] <avid_fan> jpds: And "upgrade
[15:04] <avid_fan> Doh
[15:04] <avid_fan> jpds: And "upgrade" just updates currently installed packages?
[15:04] <jpds> avid_fan: Yep.
[15:05] <avid_fan> jpds: Gotcha. Cool Thanks.
[15:05] <Tachikomas> Anyone has already installed ubuntu on more than 50 Tb ?
[15:06] <ubc> I can't see much reason to Tachikomas
[15:07] <cfhowlett> Tachikomas, focus your question on what matters
[15:08] <ubc> Do you mean on a single partition or over several?
[15:08] <Tachikomas> I'm installing a server, with 50 Tb of hdd, raid 6, 12disk, and i have somes errors on reboot "cant found root directory". I use 14.04 / 14.10 on EXT 4 / Reiserfs, and same problem.
[15:08] <Tachikomas> on a single partition.
[15:08] <Tachikomas> all on the /
[15:08] <Tachikomas> juste a / boot before.
[15:09] <krypton> Any tool to speedup boot time and application load time?
[15:09] <ich> hello?
[15:09] <Sh3r1ff> Tachikomas: ext4 can support up to 1 EiB (according to wikipedia)
[15:09] <ubc> I would try more than one partition and give it a go probably
[15:10] <SuperLag> Sh3r1ff: what is that, an exabyte?
[15:10] <Sh3r1ff> SuperLag: exbibyte
[15:10] <Tachikomas> But, the strange thing, when i want to install (for try) a debian 7 64... the server install and reboot is ok..
[15:10] <Tachikomas> with the same /boot and /
[15:11] <ubc> blame it on ubuntu then
[15:11] <Tachikomas> Should i go to bugzilla ?
[15:11] <ubc> try looking at things ubuntu has that debian doen't
[15:11] <ubc> you could give bugzilla a go
[15:12] <Tachikomas> I will do that... thx :)
[15:12] <SuperLag> Any of you guys using 14.10 in production? or do you stick with 14.04.1 for that?
[15:13] <Tachikomas> i use 14.04.1 in production.
[15:13] <Sh3r1ff> SuperLag: depends with what you mean for production ;)
[15:13] <Sh3r1ff> * depends on
[15:13] <SuperLag> Sh3r1ff: for your day job
[15:13] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, bleeding edge is bloddy.  if that works for you, go for it.
[15:13] <somsip> SuperLag: and lose support in a few months....noooooo
[15:13] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, personally, LTS suites me just fine, thanks
[15:13] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: is 14.10 considered bleeding edge? or would that be 15.04?
[15:14] <Tachikomas> SuperLag i use it for servers, and for workstation.
[15:14] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, anything non-LTS is bleeding edge
[15:14] <cfhowlett> IMHO
[15:14] <Sh3r1ff> SuperLag: still depends on what you use it for, but i don't see an issue why not
[15:14] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: :)
[15:15] <takuan> I had a perfectly working hibernate on my computer (not a single hickup in one year) until I upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10. Now it seems to work 70% of the time. Other times upon booting up it doesn't restore the system but after some waiting (2-3 seconds) boots up normally.
[15:15] <ubc> @Tachikomas http://serverfault.com/questions/584351/ubuntu-server-install-claims-3-tb-raid1-volume-is-801-5-gb may be useful.
[15:15] <takuan> can I find some info on how to fix this?
[15:16] <quackgyver> Hey, which is the best code editor for Ubuntu? Preferably something like Notepad++ or Sublime, and preferably something that you can find in the software center.
[15:16] <takuan> quackgyver: for me it's gvim but it takes some time to get used to
[15:16] <takuan> you could also use Eclipse
[15:16] <Tachikomas> ubc thx, but i use PERC H700. Icant just use raid software.
[15:16] <quackgyver> Yeah I've used Eclipse before. The UI wasn't to my liking.
[15:16] <Sh3r1ff> quackgyver: i use geany for my coding
[15:17] <takuan> me neither
[15:17] <takuan> I've been using vim for ages
[15:17] <quackgyver> I'm looking for something that is either super-lightweight but has good GUI/UX
[15:17] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, "best" ... i'ts subjective.  use what works for you
[15:17] <takuan> always come back to it
[15:17] <quackgyver> cfhowlett: Go jump in a hole.
[15:17] <ubc> fine, just a thought.
[15:17] <SuperLag> quackgyver: in the software center .... LOL :D
[15:17] <quackgyver> takuan: That's cool.
[15:17] <quackgyver> SuperLag: Well, preferably.
[15:17] <quackgyver> I'm fine with downloading off of a website too. :)
[15:17] <SuperLag> quackgyver: lots of stale stuff there
[15:17] <quackgyver> Ah.
[15:18] <SuperLag> quackgyver: I use Sublime, and IntelliJ IDEA
[15:18] <quackgyver> Oh wait, there's Sublime for Ubuntu?
[15:18] <quackgyver> Sweet.
[15:18] <SuperLag> oh yes
[15:18] <quackgyver> lol
[15:18] <SuperLag> for a LONG time now
[15:18] <quackgyver> forget I asked then :P
[15:19] <takuan> ok, anybody has any pointers to how hibernate actually works?
[15:19] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: I finally got the install kicked off. I can see lots of delay, presumably because of IPv6. I did "Try Ubuntu" and kicked off the install from there. Can you disable IPv6 with the normal sysctl stuff, and that will carry forward to the ubiquity installer?
[15:20] <quackgyver> SuperLag: How do I install it?
[15:20] <quackgyver> there are no instructions
[15:22] <cfhowlett> SuperLag, given your description, I'd suggest installing internet free then run your updates and configurations after you're installed.  don't know how to disable/bypass ipv6
[15:22] <SuperLag> quackgyver: there's a .deb file you download from the Sublime site. You can double-click on it, once you download it. Or if you have gdebi installed, it's MUCH faster than Software Center. Or you can do "dpkg -i sublimefoo.dev"
[15:23] <quackgyver> wtf
[15:23] <quackgyver> I ran "sublime_text" with ./ from Terminal
[15:23] <SuperLag> quackgyver: what did you download?
[15:23] <quackgyver> and it opened the app but terminal keeps spitting out "Source ID foo was not found when attempting to remove it"
[15:23] <quackgyver> "Sublime for Linux" on the site
[15:23] <SuperLag> you need to get the .deb file
[15:23] <quackgyver> this is weird
[15:24] <SuperLag> there is a link for Ubuntu
[15:24] <quackgyver> SuperLag: All I can find is "Linux"
[15:24] <SuperLag> quackgyver: are you on 32-bit or 64-bit?
[15:24] <quackgyver> oh what
[15:24] <quackgyver> it works now
[15:24] <quackgyver> "sublime_text" suddenly became an executable after running it via terminal
[15:24] <quackgyver> wtf
[15:25] <quackgyver> this makes no sense o_o
[15:25] <SuperLag> quackgyver: listen to me
[15:25] <SuperLag> quackgyver: if you didn't get the .deb file, ditch what you got, and get the .deb file. Are you on 32 or 64 bit?
[15:25] <quackgyver> 64 bit
[15:26] <SuperLag> quackgyver: http://c758482.r82.cf2.rackcdn.com/sublime-text_build-3065_amd64.deb
[15:26] <quackgyver> Oh, you must be referring to Sublime 3
[15:26] <quackgyver> rather than 2
[15:26] <quackgyver> cus 2 only has a "Linux" version
[15:26] <SuperLag> yeah, I'd go with 3
[15:26] <SuperLag> it's where the active development is happening
[15:26] <quackgyver> aight
[15:26] <SuperLag> that's my $.02 :)
[15:27] <quackgyver> well yeah that was much easier
[15:27] <quackgyver> thanks for the help ;)
[15:29] <quackgyver> btw
[15:29] <quackgyver> would it be easy to put together a high performing pc for linux use exclusively
[15:29] <quackgyver> or rather, are there any pcs that are suitable for ubuntu
[15:29] <daftykins> why wouldn't it?
[15:29] <quackgyver> that are also cheap
[15:30] <quackgyver> and high performing
[15:30] <elseJun> 有中国人吗
[15:30] <daftykins> !cn
[15:30] <Sh3r1ff> quackgyver: almost every pc is suitable for ubuntu
[15:30] <quackgyver> Ok then I'll go order a $3000 PC!!!
[15:30] <yourbeau> quackgyver, omg what are you going to buy ?
[15:30] <Sh3r1ff> quackgyver: if you can afford it, why not
[15:31] <quackgyver> Sh3r1ff: Because it'd be a waste if I don't need the expensive hardware.
[15:31] <quackgyver> I'm just going to do web development and possibly image editing
[15:31] <quackgyver> and it'd be a secondary computer for wokr
[15:31] <quackgyver> work*
[15:31] <quackgyver> so I'm looking to go as cheap as possible
[15:32] <daftykins> i would say that system purchasing is a bit off topic for here, plus we don't know where you're from to even point toward etailers or retailers
[15:32] <SuperLag> quackgyver: I have a high-performing laptop (ThinkPad W530, quad-core i7, 32GB RAM, 3 SSDs w/2.1TB usable storage, Nvidia Quadro w/2GB VRAM) running Ubuntu. :)
[15:32] <daftykins> just be wary of unsupported wifi devices in Linux land - by checking hardware first.
[15:32] <Sh3r1ff> quackgyver: getting a cheap pc and installing ubuntu on it doesn't make it a high performince pc, just because of the ubuntu
[15:32] <quackgyver> Sh3r1ff: I never said it would be.
[15:33] <Bobbo> daftykins: he's GMT, so Ireland or GB. Or one of those little islands. :P
[15:33] <quackgyver> daftykins: Good call.
[15:33] <quackgyver> Also don't worry about retailers.
[15:33] <SuperLag> cfhowlett: wow. The unconnected install goes *WAY* faster.
[15:33] <quackgyver> I'd just go look for something similar.
[15:33] <quackgyver> SuperLag: Cool.
[15:33] <daftykins> quackgyver: is the UK accurate?
[15:33] <quackgyver> Nah, Sweden.
[15:33] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/  check this list, make a choice.  if your budget allows: www.dell.com/developer     note that an refresh is imminent
[15:33] <quackgyver> :)
[15:34] <Bobbo> fml
[15:34] <byte-smasher> So I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to setting up user permissions on a webserver... running a LAMP stack on ubuntu, and I want to give some developes SSH+ftp+git access to some specific folders under /var/www, but not others.... everything in /var/www is owned by www-data .... and I think apache2 runs as www-data (it's set to whatever is default ) .... how can I allow a user to access only 2 out of 5 of the folders I have in /var/w
[15:34] <quackgyver> cfhowlett: Cool, thanks a lot.
[15:34] <byte-smasher> I've been googling for what best practices should be here, but apparently I fail at googling o-o
[15:34] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, happy2help!
[15:34] <quackgyver> :)
[15:39] <byte-smasher> =\
[15:40] <xdexter> Hello, anyone know any software to use RemoteApp on ubuntu?
[15:40] <avid_fan> byte-smasher: I'm not a web-developer, but you could provide "upload" access to say a home directory and then you/they could via SSH copy/move things into the appropriate directory under /var/www.
[15:41] <dioz_tepes> ubuntu is primitive
[15:41] <avid_fan> byte-smasher: If your filesystem supports it you can use extended file access permissions.
[15:41] <cfhowlett> dioz_tepes, you are free to use any other OS
[15:42] <Domincii> Hey guys, kinda new to Ubuntu using the most recent LTS atm and I'm having trouble using League of Legends through Wine. It ran fine the first few days but now I just can't seem to connect. Any ideas as to what might be wrong?
[15:42] <avid_fan> byte-smasher: so you're not limited to permissions just based upon User Group and Other.
[15:42] <quackgyver> man
[15:42] <quackgyver> ubuntu is hella fast
[15:42] <quackgyver> even on a guest os
[15:43] <quackgyver> is it compatible with huge screens
[15:43] <quackgyver> and/or multiple (3?)
[15:43] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, not sure that's available in VM mode
[15:44] <quackgyver> cfhowlett: Nah I meant if I buy a PC for deducated Linux use
[15:44] <quackgyver> I'm considering doing it instead of brining my laptop to work every day
[15:44] <quackgyver> bringing*
[15:44] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, you can definitely pipe to external monitors
[15:44] <quackgyver> Cool
[15:45] <Domincii> whats the wine IRC? #wine seems to be invite only
[15:45] <k1l> !wine | Domincii
[15:45] <Domincii> k1l ty
[15:46] <k1l> cant recognize it myself and need to read that factoid every time :)
[15:47] <Corvette> On an x86 Chromebook, is it possible to WIPE Chrome OS completely and do a fresh install of Ubuntu? These things have like 38 partitions on 12 SD cards inside... I don't get it
[15:47] <theadmin> Corvette: No, it's not.
[15:47] <dufferzafar> I have a laptop with Windows 7 and Fedora 20 installed. I now wish to replace Fedora with Ubuntu but I am afraid I'll probably mess up boot loader. What should be the right way to get my setup to a working Win 7 and Ubuntu laptop.
[15:47] <Corvette> theadmin, why not?
[15:47] <theadmin> Corvette: You can only use Crouton to install Ubuntu within ChromeOS, but even that is not supported here
[15:47] <cfhowlett> dufferzafar, you will mess up the bootloader so plan to install grub.  easy
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | dufferzafar
[15:47] <Corvette> theadmin, I've tried crouton... it's sort of a hack
[15:47] <theadmin> Corvette: Secure boot stuff. A Chromebook won't boot if you use another OS, they also have no means of booting from external hardware such as USB sticks
[15:48] <Corvette> theadmin, is the hardware any different?
[15:48] <Corvette> from a normal laptop?
[15:48] <theadmin> Corvette: Err, well, I wouldn't know that.
[15:49] <daftykins> Corvette: the BIOS is.
[15:49] <Corvette> what if you remove the HDD, put it in another machine, install Ubuntu, then put it back?
[15:49] <kokut> Kinda unrelated question but i really need some help, i'm going to use a machine that has the browsers completely broken and i was wondering if i could run chrome from my USB or something?
[15:49] <cfhowlett> kokut, ask #chrome
[15:50] <theadmin> kokut: Well no, but if the browsers are broken you can just wipe their configuration and start fresh, no?
[15:50] <cfhowlett> kokut, wait
[15:50] <k1l> Corvette: some chrome-hardware is able to let another OS install, like removing a screw. but in general uefi can be limited to just allow one special OS. yes
[15:50] <cfhowlett> kokut, you mean chrome browwser not OS ?
[15:50] <kokut> chrome browser
[15:50] <jhutchins> kokut: What about fixing what's on there?
[15:50] <kokut> i cant access the internet
[15:50] <kokut> so i cant find help
[15:50] <dufferzafar> cfhowlett: I am not sure I understand. Should I just install Ubuntu over Fedora and then later install Grub to fix bootloader?
[15:51] <kokut> also don't have root privileges
[15:51] <kokut> if i had i could fix them
[15:51] <Corvette> k1l, that kinda sucks... I really like the Acer CB3 but I hate Chrome OS
[15:51] <Corvette> And I hate having to buy a laptop with Windows and pay for Windows when I won't use it
[15:51] <cfhowlett> dufferzafar, format your current /fedora partitions and install grub to the /dev/sda     i.e. HDD
[15:51] <jhutchins> kokut: chrome on a usb stick isn't going to help if you don't have net access.
[15:51] <k1l> Corvette: well, buy hardware that is not limited in the first place :/
[15:52] <kokut> i have net access
[15:52] <kokut> i dont have root privileges
[15:52] <dufferzafar> cfhowlett: and Ubuntu?
[15:52] <Corvette> Everything comes with Windows.. so you pay for Windows even if you don't want to. That should be illegal
[15:52] <cfhowlett> dufferzafar, install ubuntu over your fresh partitions
[15:52] <Sh3r1ff> Corvette: not if you buy the parts and assemble it yourself
[15:52] <daftykins> Corvette: this is not a place to set down your soap box and complain about the world. it is OS support.
[15:53] <Corvette> daftykins, my apologies, I forgot there is an Ubuntu-Offtopic
[15:53] <theadmin> Corvette: Legally, you can request a refund for Windows right after you purchase the laptop. Infact, some stores might even let you buy stuff without Windows on it.
[15:53] <theadmin> Also, there are laptops that come with Linux systems.
[15:53] <daftykins> my advice to chromebook buyers... buy something you intend to use in the way it came, don't rely on modifications that may work
[15:53] <abax> hey what's wrong with this, i installed ubuntu 14.10 on a computer that had previously windows 8.1. there was no errors during installation but after i rebooted the computer, windows booted. i tried every option from bios boot menu one by one but none of them worked. one of them was "ubuntu" and when i selected it, the computer went to grub command line. could it be because secure boot is enabled from bios? i couldn't disable it because ...
[15:53] <daftykins> theadmin: that changed
[15:54] <cfhowlett> daftykins, sound advice indeed
[15:54] <abax> ... it was grayed out
[15:54] <theadmin> daftykins: What changed?
[15:54] <EriC^^> abax: that's perfectly normal, and when grub appeared that's what is supposed to happen
[15:54] <daftykins> theadmin: the alleged grey area of the 'Windows refund' idea. anywho, that's more suited to ##windows
[15:55] <EriC^^> abax: you should select ubuntu to boot into ubuntu, then you'll have to mess with the efi files
[15:55] <EriC^^> so it boots into grub every time
[15:55] <abax> EriC^^: why do i need to mess with efi files? wouldn't it be nicer if it just worked?
[15:56] <EriC^^> abax: that's a question for the laptop manufacturer
[15:56] <abax> EriC^^: this is a desktop
[15:56] <EriC^^> ok, desktop manufacturer
[15:56] <EriC^^> :D
[15:57] <daftykins> abax: a common issue is also people booting and installing ubuntu in legacy mode when windows 8 is EFI, or similar. lots of combinations, tonnes to go wrong
[15:58] <EriC^^> abax: boot into ubuntu and come back here
[15:59] <abax> EriC^^: i surely would like to, i don't know how to do that though
[15:59] <EriC^^> abax: when you get grub, select ubuntu
[16:00] <abax> EriC^^: it's not the grub list of OSes, it's just a command line
[16:00] <Jef91> So I was using Connman on Ubuntu, and changed to nm-applet by installing the package "network-manager-gnome". Now when I start nm-applet it tells me that my "device is not managed" and I cannot get a connection. What am I missing?
[16:00] <EriC^^> abax: oh, boot a live usb then
[16:00] <abax> daftykins: ok, i have this option "OS Type" in my bios. it has two options: "Windows UEFI" and "Other OS". i had Other OS selected when i installed ubuntu. i tried changing it to other os, but ubuntu still didn't boot. so should i reinstall ubuntu while Windows UEFI is selected?
[16:01] <daftykins> abax: that's not what i mean
[16:01] <Guest18388> hey guys
[16:01] <Guest18388> i want to extend my root lv volume
[16:01] <abax> daftykins: ok..
[16:01] <Guest18388> i tried to boot on a rescue cd and use gparted but i couldnt
[16:01] <Guest18388> it was locked
[16:01] <Guest18388> apparently i can use lvextend?
[16:02] <cfhowlett> abax is this a Mac??
[16:03] <supershuye> 说中文的吗
[16:04] <custom> hello all
[16:04] <avid_fan> Guest18388: I don't know that GParted can, by itself, extend a volume. Also, I've used rescue cds that auto mount partitions it can discover, so make sure the file system isn't mounted.
[16:05] <abax> cfhowlett: no it's not. a normal pc
[16:05] <custom> when you reboot in ubuntu, ubuntu close and save all applications, do you know some command for do it without logout / restart / shutdown?
[16:05] <abax> EriC^^: now i'm in ubuntu live session
[16:06] <EriC^^> abax: ok type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:06] <dtcrshr> I have a fresh new install of ubuntu 14, and the wireless wasnt recognized. I use the "aditional drivers" box, which had my broadcom BCM4312 listed, I installed as suggested but it wont work. I already toogled the risical wireless button of the notebook sometimes, but nothing changes, any clues?
[16:07] <EriC^^> abax: and sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:09] <abax> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/uk89 and http://termbin.com/xfv9
[16:16] <cfhowlett> dts|pokeball, this is 14.04??
[16:16] <EriC^^> abax: type sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
[16:17] <abax> EriC^^: done
[16:17] <EriC^^> abax: kind of odd you have an efi entry for ubuntu, but you have a bios-boot partition, did you install ubuntu twice?
[16:17] <EriC^^> i think you installed ubuntu the first time in uefi mode, and the second in legacy mode
[16:17] <EriC^^> second being the last time
[16:17] <avid_fan> Guest18388: Apparently, if you're using EXT4, it sounds possible to resize it on-line. YMMV. http://askubuntu.com/questions/24027/how-can-i-resize-an-ext-root-partition-at-runtime
[16:19] <abax> EriC^^: hmm well yes and no. what happened was first i installed ubuntu, then i installed windows and in the windows installation program i deleted all the partitions and everything that it let me delete so there was only windows on the computer. then i installed ubuntu again
[16:20] <EriC^^> abax: ok, i'd recommend you reinstall ubuntu in uefi mode, you could fix it if you wanted but it's a fresh install so why not
[16:21] <EriC^^> abax: also you're swap is on another disk, it's probably better to have it all on one
[16:21] <CVirus> I installed burg on ubuntu 14.10 and then removed it using --purge and it still shows on boot !
[16:22] <abax> EriC^^: ok cool, so is this uefi mode that you're talking about the setting "OS Type" with value "Windows UEFI" in my bios? (the opposite of "Other OS")
[16:22] <EriC^^> yes i think so
[16:23] <EriC^^> abax: did you change anything prior to installing ubuntu the second time?
[16:23] <CVirus> Here's the output of boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/9731071/
[16:24] <abax> EriC^^: i can't remember anymore.. it's possible that i might have changed the os type setting in bios
[16:24] <abax> (i don't know why i would have done that though)
[16:36] <dcht00> http://askubuntu.com/questions/323962/how-to-make-desktop-icons
[16:37] <dcht00> http://askubuntu.com/questions/573348/desktop-icon-position-programmatically-access-and-manipulate
[16:37] <dcht00> Anyone has any idea how to programmatically read & write desktop icon positions?
[16:41] <OerHeks> dcht00, this is the official doc, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles but i don't know how you can put an desktop icon on a certain place
[16:44] <DaBeat> Anybody on/
[16:44] <cfhowlett> !ask | DaBeat,
[16:47] <elseJun>  ipl.me
[16:48] <bimma> ciao
[16:48] <bimma> news about ubuntu phone?
[16:48] <cfhowlett> bimma, "soon"
[16:48] <cfhowlett> !phone | bimma
[16:49] <bimma> !phone
[16:49] <k1l> bimma: in february in europe. more info in #ubuntu-touch
[16:49] <bimma> february 2015 or 2016?
[16:49] <k1l> next month
[16:49] <bimma> good!
[16:49] <cfhowlett> bimma, non official announcement so ... soon
[16:50] <abax> EriC^^: i reinstalled it now. (with windows UEFI enabled from bios). it's still the same. none of all the options in bios boot menu boot ubuntu. windows still boots. now it doesn't even go to the grub command line any more
[16:50] <EriC^^> abax: ok boot the live usb
[16:50] <abax> EriC^^: yeah it's on now
[16:50] <EriC^^> abax: ok type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:50] <EriC^^> abax: and sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:52] <artisanIndia> !paste
[16:52] <abax> EriC^^: here's the parted: http://termbin.com/4jl2  but efibootmgr only displays an error: EFI variables are not supported on this system.
[16:53] <dcht00> OerHeks : thank you, but, I know about the .desktop files .. That's the thing, where are those positions stored?
[16:53] <EriC^^> abax: did you boot the live usb in uefi mode?
[16:53] <dcht00> it's quite a mistery... can't thing any docs about it. I even tried auditing the system... Can't figure it out
[16:53] <artisanIndia> this script says http://127.0.0.1/getposter not found http://paste.ubuntu.com/9732146/
[16:54] <cfhowlett> artisanIndia, ask in the #bash channel
[16:55] <artisanIndia> k thanks
[16:55] <abax> EriC^^: yes as far as i know. this it what i have in bios: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oxyqyrdtn3k7jfu/2015-01-13%2018.54.08.jpg?dl=0
[16:59] <EriC^^> abax: ok, type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi
[16:59] <abax> EriC^^: hold on, no i didn't
[16:59] <EriC^^> ok
[16:59] <EriC^^> boot the live usb in uefi mode
[17:00] <daftykins> abax: you need to pay attention to the boot menu entries, not any setting such as that
[17:00] <artisanIndia> can I set 2 second for a cronjob ?
[17:00] <daftykins> asus boot menu should help. F8 typically
[17:01] <abax> EriC^^: yeah, i didn't notice at first that in the boot menu there was two different DataTravelers. one with UEFI and one without
[17:01] <EriC^^> artisanIndia: every 2 seconds?
[17:01] <artisanIndia> yes can I ?
[17:01] <EriC^^> artisanIndia: yeah, */2 * * * * <command>
[17:01]  * cfhowlett wonders what commands need a 2 second trigger
[17:02] <daftykins> sometimes i think it's safer we don't know
[17:02] <daftykins> ;)
[17:02] <abax> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/x3kx and http://termbin.com/oic7
[17:02] <artisanIndia> I need to curl a php script every 2 seconds
[17:03] <artisanIndia> just to complete my db
[17:04] <OerHeks> dcht00, it used to be in ~/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/home-*.log  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1472774 but i see no new entry when i add a desktop file on my desktop ( unity)
[17:04] <artisanIndia> Eric^^ I think that will be 2 minutes
[17:04] <sruz25> does anyone here understand dpkg?
[17:05] <sruz25> does anyone here understand dpkg?
[17:05] <EriC^^> artisanIndia: ah, right
[17:05] <cfhowlett> sruz25, open a terminal:   man dpkg
[17:05] <EriC^^> artisanIndia: you could run while :; do curl ....; sleep 2; done
[17:05] <sruz25> I mean how it works, not how you use it
[17:06] <sruz25> because I hove issues with broken dependancies that can not be fixed without doing complicated multiple driver reinstallation
[17:07] <sruz25> if I was to do it the "proper" way
[17:07] <k1l> sruz25: driver? dpkg? can you show the exact errors in a pastebin?
[17:08] <sruz25> the radeon drivers do not work with linux 3.13+, the repo fglrx version is old and the up-to-date only installs to the kernel that is currently active
[17:09] <daftykins> sruz25: old card or something?
[17:09] <sruz25> and I have to uninstall the old-but-working radeon first and reboot, thus am not able to boot to 3.13+
[17:09] <sruz25> it all works now, only apt has some broken dependancy because I tried to create deb package with the installer, but that didn't rally work
[17:10] <sruz25> but one package stayed in there even though it could not satisfy the dependancy
[17:10] <house> Hello
[17:10] <EriC^^> abax: type sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
[17:11] <abax> EriC^^: done
[17:11] <sruz25> now this package is pointing to the driver files that were installed later on with the installer (and NOT via apt)
[17:11] <sruz25> so I can't remove the package without breaking my drivers
[17:11] <dcht00> OerHeks: thanks, good lead, I'm checking all of this out
[17:11] <EriC^^> abax: for i in /dev /dev/pts /run /proc /sys; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[17:11] <sruz25> tl;dr, I'd like to just edit the dpkg database so that it thinks the package is not there
[17:12] <house> Hello Anyone here?I have a doubt about accountsservice
[17:13] <sruz25> so nobody here knows how /var/lib/dpkg/ works, huh?
[17:13] <abax> EriC^^: done
[17:14] <EriC^^> abax: sudo chroot /mnt
[17:14] <daftykins> sruz25: i mostly just raised an eyebrow at seeing someone work themselves into such a corner, package wise :)
[17:14] <abax> EriC^^: yes
[17:14] <EriC^^> abax: is it a 64bit machine?
[17:14] <abax> EriC^^: yes it is
[17:14] <abax> EriC^^: brand new
[17:15] <EriC^^> abax: ok, sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[17:15] <EriC^^> wait
[17:15] <EriC^^> exit the chroot
[17:15] <sruz25> I could theoretically back up all the files that fglrx falsely things it owns, remove the package and than restore the backup..., but there's a lot of files
[17:15] <EriC^^> ( type exit )
[17:15] <abax> EriC^^: yeah, done
[17:16] <EriC^^> abax: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi
[17:16] <daftykins> sruz25: yeah that's what i was about to suggest.
[17:17] <abax> EriC^^: should i do that with or without the chroot? because at least without chroot it didn't work. it says: mount: mount point /mnt/boot/efi does not exist
[17:17] <sruz25> the problem is, that fglrx.list contains all directories in the path, so I can't just copy them...
[17:17] <EriC^^> abax: exit the chroot, you should get ubuntu@ubuntu
[17:17] <Mrono> How can I make ubuntu use bluetooth 4.0
[17:17] <sruz25> as in there's /usr/bin and /etc/ and stuff
[17:17] <EriC^^> then sudo mount
[17:17] <Mrono> it's only making a 3.0 connection to my headphones
[17:18] <stangeland> hello, i have a screen session dangling somewhere, when i do screen -ls it says 34570.pts-3.frontn-01	(Attached), so i cannot do screen -r. if i do that it says: There is no screen to be resumed matching 34570.pts-3.frontn-01. How can i destroy that screen session?
[17:18] <abax> EriC^^: yeah i have ubuntu@ubuntu. it still says: mount: mount point /mnt/boot/efi does not exist
[17:18] <SchrodingersScat> stangeland: have you tried screen -d -r 34570
[17:18] <sruz25> I guess I could work around it, but just being able to edit the database entry or whatever it is, would be much easier
[17:18] <Sh3r1ff> stangeland: try screen -rd to detach it first before attaching
[17:19] <stangeland> Sh3r1ff, ahhhh screen -rd did it - what was that?
[17:19] <EriC^^> abax: ok, type sudo mkdir /mnt/boot/efi
[17:19] <SchrodingersScat> stangeland: d is detaches
[17:19] <Sh3r1ff> stangeland: -r for reattach and -d for detach if already attached
[17:20] <EriC^^> abax: i think ubuntu wasn't installed with uefi enabled
[17:21] <abax> EriC^^: actually you might be right. because i probably did the same mistake with booting the installation program as i did booting the live session afterwards. i probably chose the option from the boot menu without uefi. (and the mount command worked now by the way)
[17:21] <abax> EriC^^: so i guess i'm installing it once again now booting with the uefi thing
[17:22] <cryptopsy> bye for now
[17:22] <EriC^^> abax: ok
[17:23] <EriC^^> abax: try to install using the Something else option, cause it's making a swap in the other hard disk
[17:23] <TeddyMurray> hi, can someone help me with my phppgadmin install? i'm having trouble setting the htpasswd file
[17:23] <TeddyMurray> ubuntu 14
[17:23] <abax> EriC^^: i am installing it with something else. i made the swap to the other disk on purpose because i don't want it to consume space from my ssd...
[17:24] <EriC^^> abax: oh ok
[17:24] <TeddyMurray> sudo htpasswd -c /var/www/.htpasswd username is the cmd i ran
[17:25] <EriC^^> abax: you can delete the bios-boot partition if you want, or leave it if you ever need to boot it on a legacy pc
[17:25] <abax> EriC^^: ok
[17:37] <kx25> hi
[17:37] <daftykins> lo
[17:45] <help_me> Hi, for some reason the "Configure VPN" button in my ubuntu installation it's not working ( I click it and nothing happens ), any ideas what could couse that? please note that ubuntu is running in a VM, and yes, internet works there
[17:46] <abax> EriC^^: hey this thing works now!
[17:47] <abax> EriC^^: thanks. i'll buy you a kebab if you ever visit helsinki
[17:51] <heinz> guten abend wer kann mir eine frage über gnome beantworten?
[17:52] <theadmin> !de
[17:53] <faLUCE> hello, can you suggest a good countdown timer for linux? I tried gnome-clocks but it has a bad sound and it's not configurable
[17:56] <heinz> guten abend ululus , kann ich eine frage an dich richten ß
[17:57] <theadmin> faLUCE: sleep 5m && mplayer /path/to/file.mp3
[17:57] <theadmin> heh
[17:57] <theadmin> If you want a more graphical solution, I dunno
[17:57] <Ululus> heinz: good evening, well ok
[17:57] <faLUCE> theadmin: LOL, I'm a linux developer and I didn't find such an easy solution :-) thanks
[17:58] <theadmin> Make sure mplayer is installed first, of course
[17:59] <jhutchins> aplay
[18:03] <Bobbo> faLUCE: sleep 5m && echo "Wake up lazybones!" | festival --tts
[18:03] <help_me> nvm, I fixed itself after fixing another problem, thanks anyway
[18:03] <faLUCE> Bobbo: ehehheeh
[18:03] <Bobbo> faLUCE: done that in the past, actually.
[18:06] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Up and running from yesterday ?
[18:08] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: nope
[18:08] <Bobbo> Bashing-om: going for backup n nuke. :3
[18:08] <mvdnes> Hello! About once a week we get the following error: /etc/cron.daily/apt: *** Error in `/usr/bin/python3': corrupted double-linked list: 0x00000000023c0700 ***.  Running Ubuntu 14.04.1 server. Does anyone know why this happens?
[18:09] <user4777> &
[18:10] <Bobbo> faLUCE: I had a fancier script; but I don't have access to it right now. :(
[18:10] <mun> hi
[18:10] <Bashing-om> Bobbo: Bummer .. OK, refresh our minds what the problem is .. (keyboard/driver), Were we not working on the Xorg/graphics driver interfacing ?
[18:10] <mun> what does the command '< foo.txt ...' actually do?
[18:11] <Fuchs> mun: put the contents of foo.txt to STDIN of the application left of the <
[18:11] <theadmin> mun: Not really a command per se, it's a redirection operator
[18:11] <mun> Fuchs: but there's nothing on the left
[18:11] <help_me> could anyone help me setup a vpn? specifically I'm trying to connect to the first one on this list ( the Japanese one ) http://www.vpngate.net/en/ , I'm running 14.10 in virtual box, do I need some additional software?
[18:11] <theadmin> mun: meow < foo.txt would feed the stuff in foo.txt to "meow"
[18:12] <theadmin> I'm not sure what bash does if there's nothing there
[18:12] <mun> theadmin: so if there's nothing on the left, where would the input go?
[18:12] <Fuchs> bash ignores it, zsh prints it to STDOUT
[18:13] <mun> right
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Bobby_Tables: could have used cowsay-gtk ;)
[18:17] <theadmin> mun: > foo.txt on the other hand creates an empty file called "foo.txt"
[18:17] <theadmin> You may see that often
[18:17] <mun> theadmin: yeah, thanks
[18:20] <Guest36533> hello!
[18:20] <theadmin> Guest36533: Hello. Please set a more reasonable nickname by typing /nick your_new_name
[18:20] <theadmin> After that, feel free to ask your question.
[18:21] <Delta706> I am running fdisk to try to setup a new drive. fdisk reports System Linux for the partition
[18:21] <Delta706> Can I go ahead and mount the partition next?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Delta706: is it formatted?
[18:23] <theadmin> Delta706: The partition type doesn't necessarily imply a filesystem
[18:23] <theadmin> Infact, I'm not even sure what the type means
[18:23] <theadmin> You'll want to format the partition first, e.g. mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdx1
[18:24] <Delta706> ActionParsnip: my guess is not. I tried mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdb1
[18:24] <Delta706> but I got an error
[18:26] <Delta706> well this is weird. mkfs.ext2 is now working
[18:27] <Delta706> it seems my problem has just vanished somehow
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Delta706: sweet
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> the new firefox update 35 will soon release: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/firefox-35-download-new-features
[18:39] <en1gma> im following this guide on building dsd for ubuntu http://notes.secretsauce.net/notes/2014/07/25_decoding-p25-with-rtl-sdr-on-debian.html  when i goto compile dsd this is what i get http://pastebin.com/BVAvmS4y
[18:39] <en1gma> think someone might be able to tell me what i doing wrong please?
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[18:41] <en1gma> k 1 sec
[18:41] <ikonia> isn't there a DSD package in ubuntu
[18:41] <en1gma> Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l
[18:41] <en1gma> i looked for DSD package and didnt see one
[18:42] <ikonia> I was sure there was one
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: apt-cache shows dsdp
[18:42] <ikonia> linking against /usr/local/lib isn't comfortaing
[18:42] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: is that the same thing ?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> not sure
[18:42] <en1gma> ActionParsnip so you know what the problem is now that i verified im using ubuntu 14.10?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> dsdp - Software for Semidefinite Programming
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: just searching the web now
[18:42] <Pici> rtlsdr stuff is evolving pretty quickly, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't in Ubuntu or Debian yet.
[18:43] <en1gma> k. i gave the link
[18:43] <en1gma> its not. that is why im building it
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: http://cboard.cprogramming.com/c-programming/79669-undefined-reference-pow-sqrt-even-though-math-h-header-there.html
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16601550/c-error-undefined-reference-to-pow-in-eclipse-ide-can-use-it-in-main-funct
[18:44] <en1gma> im not sure what those links mean. i just asking what the problem is
[18:44] <en1gma> do i need to build another package first or something
[18:45] <en1gma> or a deps problem?
[18:45] <ikonia> en1gma: why are you telling it to link against /usr/local/lib
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: seems to need different compile options, could ask in a C channel
[18:45] <en1gma> im doing exactly what the guide says for ubuntu 14.05
[18:45] <en1gma> 14.04*
[18:46] <ikonia> you're not using 14.04 though
[18:46] <ikonia> packages / compilers are different
[18:46] <Nathan2055> Whatever happened to the thumbdrive they used to sell in the Ubuntu store? Is there still a way to get it?
[18:46] <en1gma> yea true. i using 14.10
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> !find p25
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Nathan2055: people on ebay make and sell them
[18:47] <theadmin> Nathan2055: Just get a regular thumbdrive and put Ubuntu on it, eh?
[18:47] <en1gma> ok thanks. preciate it. i gonna do a lil more digging. prob check in C channel like you said.
[18:47] <Nathan2055> I know, but it would have been cool to have an official Ubuntu-branded one.
[18:47] <Nathan2055> Oh well, it's not as if it's a huge loss.
[18:48] <en1gma> hey do you think we will see DSD in repo soon?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Nathan2055: as long as it does the job, who cares
[18:48] <kanupatar_> hi guys
[18:48] <kanupatar_> how can I statically assign a "/dev/input/XXX" for my HID device?
[18:48] <ikonia> en1gma: I thought it was there - it appears I'm wrong
[18:48] <kanupatar_> means, whenever I plug in the HID device, I should get the same device node, /dev/input/XXX
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> hi kanupatar_
[18:48] <kanupatar_> ActionParsnip: ^^
[18:48] <theadmin> kanupatar_: You'd write an udev rule
[18:48] <kanupatar_> theadmin: how man?
[18:49] <daftykins> Nathan2055: print a logo and tape it on your flash drive
[18:50] <mvdnes> About once a week we get the following error: /etc/cron.daily/apt: *** Error in `/usr/bin/python3': corrupted double-linked list: 0x00000000023c0700 ***.  Running Ubuntu 14.04.1 server. Does anyone know why this happens?
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: lol
[18:50] <theadmin> mvdnes: That sounds like a bug in Python itself.
[18:51] <bubbasaures> Nathan2055: You can try and find an official disc for a coaster. ;)
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> mvdnes: can you pastebin the cronab file please
[18:51] <Nathan2055> They still sell the official discs, it's just the thumbdrive that got discontinued.
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> mvdnes: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/cron.daily/apt
[18:51] <mvdnes> theadmin: the apt file or /etc/crontab?
[18:53] <viejotren> Hello I'm trying to copy several files using cp -R command, but some of them have special characters, such as spaces and accent mark (̣'), my question is: is there a way to copy the filename even with special chars? how can I accomplish this task?
[18:54] <mvdnes> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/FLkusV46
[18:55] <theadmin> viejotren: Simple, take them in quotes
[18:55] <theadmin> viejotren: Also, you can usually type the first few letters in the filename and hit Tab -- bash will then handle the rest, including handling of special characters
[18:56] <viejotren> theadmin: but the problem is they are a lot files, I'm doing a copy recursively, so it is a better idea to tar them? or maybe use a backup tool? by the way I'm working in command line mode
[18:58] <viejotren> theadmin: I was thinking to use regexpression but don't have idea if such thing may work in recursively mode with cp, what do you think?
[18:58] <theadmin> viejotren: It doesn't matter whether you are copying recursively or whatnot, you can still follow those 2 examples
[18:59] <flexus> viejotren, cp -a /source/. /tartget
[18:59] <viejotren> theadmin: got it, thanks, I will try now
[18:59] <viejotren> flexus: I will try it as well
[19:01] <ayr-ton> Theres someone passing through any problems with python-pip latest update with ubuntu 14.10?
[19:02] <cryptopsy> is there a linux imagefap.com downloader?
[19:03] <viejotren> flexus: I tried it, but it still the same problem
[19:04] <maliktunga> Does i915.modeset=0 in GRUB remove the i915 module?
[19:05] <flexus> viejotren, cp -ra
[19:07] <viejotren> flexus: got it, I'm trying it
[19:08] <viejotren> by the way, this problem only exists because the target is NTFS, I've already try this using ext4 at each side and it worked
[19:09] <flexus> viejotren, 128 chars limit
[19:11] <viejotren> flexus: it seems less than 128, but who knows, it's ntfs, anything may happens
[19:12] <flexus> viejotren, they are writing different things as i can see, but idk
[19:14] <solsTiCe> so by default now ext4 does not force periodic fsck ?
[19:14] <solsTiCe> I was looking at tune2fs -l output on my partition here
[19:14] <cemotyz09> Hi I've been trying to figure out an issue automounting NFS shares not using fstab, using autofs. I've read the wiki at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs and triple checked everything but it won't actually show the share using ubuntu 14.04
[19:15] <bubbasaures> solsTiCe, Yes auto fsck is now not running, has been gone for a while
[19:18] <l0rdn1x> this new kernel better be awesome!
[19:18] <l0rdn1x> lol
[19:18] <l0rdn1x> 3.13.0-44
[19:20] <ashirbad> hi
[19:21] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: Can you see the shares with showmount?
[19:21] <cemotyz09> yes and can mount using mount command
[19:22] <cemotyz09> it seems it does mount at least partially becuase i can tell the permissions change but can't view the shares in the directory
[19:23] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[19:23] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: what about sudo ls <foo>
[19:24] <cemotyz09> after running automount command it states no directory
[19:25] <cemotyz09> the mount point is my users public directory would that be an issue since its not a top level directory
[19:26] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: Shouldn't be, but it does need to be a dedicated directory, and the share mounts are created within that.
[19:27] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: pstebin your auto.net?
[19:29] <cemotyz09> http://pastebin.com/KxhPvtGs
[19:30] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: Ok, what file did you define the automount shares in?  Pastebin that too.
[19:30] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: Sometimes that's done in auto.net
[19:31] <erbwan> please help i had a usb adapter for wifi and doesn't connect on ubuntu, where can i find drivers for approx ralink rt5370
[19:31] <Paradisee> i lost my root password, is there a way to find it back or change it?
[19:31] <diamonds> yo
[19:32] <apes> Anyone seen this happen and know what may have caused it? /libnss3.so -> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss3.so
[19:32] <bubbasaures> Paradisee, Your password? no root password is there.
[19:32] <theadmin> Paradisee: Ubuntu doesn't have such things.
[19:32] <apes> I'm not having much luck tracking the cause down.
[19:32] <diamonds> I want, when certain applications have an action SENT to them (by me) to come to the fore
[19:32] <diamonds> for example:
[19:32] <diamonds> my notif. messages have a "show" button (on chat notif. e.g.)
[19:32] <cemotyz09> http://pastebin.com/hfLRzZa7
[19:32] <diamonds> I click "show" and the icon bounces on my (unity) dock but it does NOT bring window to fore
[19:32] <diamonds> how can I change this?
[19:33] <Paradisee> how do i get it?
[19:33] <cemotyz09> thats the auto.master and this is in auto.nfs  "NFS -fstype=nfs4 192.168.1.4:/home/Public"
[19:33] <bubbasaures> Paradisee, Get what? we need to know exactly what you mean.
[19:34] <orion> Hi. Under what circumstances should a server running 12.04 LTS use linux-image-3.13.0?
[19:34] <Paradisee> i need to to reset my password for my user
[19:34] <bubbasaures> !password | Paradisee
[19:34] <freakegk> Paradisee: do "passwd" in in kernel bash
[19:34] <freakegk> And reset your password
[19:34] <Paradisee> i cant' reset it, it seems like my passwrod has been changed
[19:35] <trism> diamonds: there's not likely much you can do about it, there's a couple bugs about it for various indicators, such as bug 1047809
[19:35] <bubbasaures> Paradisee, Read the links in the bots message
[19:36] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: So we're exoectubg that autofs will create /home/carlos/Public/NFS and /home/carlos/Public exists, right?
[19:36] <diamonds> thx trism, may have some action from #xfce
[19:36] <bubbasaures> Paradisee, You can't retrieve it and it does not matter what it is.
[19:36] <rww> orion: if it's using the linux-image-generic metapackage, i.e. not an LTS Enablement Stack (which is fine)
[19:36]  * diamonds looks at bug date
[19:36] <rww> orion: oh wait sorry, 12.04, i was looking at 14.04.
[19:36] <diamonds> 2013-10... :/
[19:36] <cemotyz09> yes it is created on client only directory not created is "NFS"
[19:37] <orion> rww: We have a bunch of servers at work running 12.04, but their kernel version is 3.13.0-44-generic.
[19:37] <orion> And this is confusing me.
[19:37] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: That's correct, autofs is supposed to create it.
[19:37] <rww> orion: yeah, I'm looking up the 12.04 details now
[19:37] <orion> I do not understand the circumstances under which that should happen.
[19:37] <bubbasaures> stack update? orion
[19:37] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: So you've restarted autofs, and ls /home/carlos/Public/NFS shows what?
[19:37] <cemotyz09> right, making sure you understand me
[19:39] <rww> orion: yeah, looks like the latest 12.04 LTS enablement stack uses 3.13
[19:39] <rww> orion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[19:39] <cemotyz09> oK wow it just showed up ive reloaded and tryed the automount -f -v multiple times and never showed up so ok thank you
[19:40] <orion> rww: This HWE shit confuses the hell out of me.
[19:40] <cemotyz09> do you know if theres a time delay like big one i've been trying for about 40 minutes now
[19:40] <jhutchins> cemotyz09: Well, at least it's working!
[19:40] <rww> orion: same
[19:40] <cemotyz09> yeah that's good just don't understand why now and not before thanks again jhutchins
[19:41] <orion> rww: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
[19:42] <orion> All the way at the bottom.
[19:42] <orion> It says Precise is at 3.2.0
[19:42] <rww> that source package is for non-HWE
[19:42] <rww> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-trusty
[19:46] <stoogenmeyer> hey can anybody recommend an alternative to iterm2 ?
[19:47] <orion> grr
[19:47] <flad> hello
[19:47] <orion> I can't find linux-lts-trusty in apt.
[19:48] <nickander> i read that as linux-its-trusty and was confused as to why that was an application
[19:49] <flad> orion... buy a new copy
[19:50] <bubbasaures> orion, What again is the issue?
[19:50] <undecim> How can I make grub show the Windows install at the top of the list?
[19:50] <bobbobbins> hey, I’m going to ask a potentially stupid question…I’ve inherited a project someone built on a ubuntu server…now I need to deploy that project to a whole bunch of different computers, whats the best way to do that? VirtualBox or something like that?
[19:51] <rww> orion: that's the source package name. the binary packages are named e.g. linux-image-generic-lts-trusty
[19:51] <rww> orion: which depends on linux-image-3.13.0-44-generic
[19:51] <theadmin> bobbobbins: Well, eh, you can take a raw disk image in dd and deploy it to all other computers' drives
[19:51] <flad> undecim... easiest grub-manager
[19:51] <theadmin> bobbobbins: But that will wipe what's currently on them, of course
[19:51] <Bashing-om> orion: linux-generic-lts-trusty , linux-image-generic-lts-trusty ???
[19:51] <julian-delphiki> bobbobbins: depends on the app.
[19:51] <undecim> bobbobbins, The project is an app that runs on Ubuntu Server?
[19:51] <theadmin> bobbobbins: You can also use Virtualbox. Again, take a raw disk image first, then you can use "vboxmanage convertdd" to convert it to a Virtualbox-friendly format.
[19:51] <rww> orion: (analagous to linux and linux-meta being source packages for linux-image-someversion-generic and linux-image-generic)
[19:52] <undecim> And when you say "a whole bunch of different computers", do you mean several desktops? Do they all have hardware virtualization?
[19:52] <bobbobbins> theadmin: yeah, i don’t think I can do that…it wasn’t a very well thought out project, its a website with a bunch of backend processes, so its kind of tied to the os, a whole bunch of computers meaning a few thousand desktops…to people who aren’t very computer saavy
[19:53] <undecim> bobbobbins, Don't give VirtualBox to people who aren't savvy
[19:53] <undecim> I just tried that a few months ago
[19:53] <undecim> And spent a few months regretting it as I solved the problems it caused
[19:54] <bobbobbins> undecim: I really don’t want to, but I’m not sure what solution I can come up with…its going to be a disaster no matter what i do
[19:54] <undecim> bobbobbins, Well, if it works with the app, you could do a thin-client thing
[19:54] <bobbobbins> i don’t know how they plan on making a few thousand different versions of the website available
[19:54] <julian-delphiki> bobbobbins: and they can't just all access the same installation of the application?
[19:54] <bobbobbins> julian-delphiki: no, that was the original proposal, but some stupid privacy thing means each one has to be separate
[19:55] <undecim> bobbobbins, Have one server run the apps on VNC, and everyone else connects to it. But then this means you need a good connection to the server to use the app
[19:55] <undecim> Or, if it's just a website, you can use HTTP as the frontend
[19:56] <bobbobbins> undecim: I can’t unfortunately…its not the way they want it done
[19:56] <julian-delphiki> i guess, what sort of separation does it need? I run a big multitenant application that just differentiates based on hostname right now.
[19:56] <julian-delphiki> where they == people that don't understand technology?
[19:57] <bobbobbins> julian-delphiki: I should probably find out, all I really know is that each site needs a full copy of it
[19:57] <bobbobbins> each site meaning each physical group they give this app to
[19:57] <julian-delphiki> I see. This sounds like a nightmare that isn't being very well thought out.
[19:58] <bobbobbins> julian-delphiki: yup…some idiot started it then left, and now I’m stuck with the mess
[19:58] <undecim> bobbobbins, Have you looked into what kind of work it would take to make it more portable?
[19:58] <theadmin> bobbobbins: What's the site like? Does it use a database engine?
[19:58] <theadmin> bobbobbins: What language is it coded in? And so on.
[19:58] <bobbobbins> yeah, its a mysql database
[19:58]  * julian-delphiki bets its php / mysql
[19:58] <bobbobbins> julian-delphiki: you’d be correct
[19:58] <bobbobbins> (again, not my idea)
[19:59] <bobbobbins> the site is php…the backend processes are python
[19:59] <theadmin> Oh, geez.
[19:59] <julian-delphiki> God I'd have to be paid so much money to write php these days
[19:59] <theadmin> That's... a mess.
[20:00] <theadmin> bobbobbins: Well, yeah, a Virtualbox machine would be a good bet. Make one and, well, configure it, then export it as an OVA. The most your people will have to do is install Virtualbox and import the "appliance" file
[20:00] <theadmin> (that is, the .ova)
[20:00] <undecim> Yeah, just hope they aren't using Virtualbox on a Windows machine
[20:00] <theadmin> There's also ThinApp
[20:00] <theadmin> undecim: Why not? The host wouldn't matter.
[20:00] <bartbes> I'm getting corrupted double-linked list errors from the apt cronjob, does anyone have any ideas what it could be, and how I could fix it?
[20:00] <bobbobbins> theadmin: ok, thats the route i was thinking would be best…but i do have a feeling almost all of them will be on windows machines
[20:00] <undecim> theadmin, The antivirus software does
[20:00] <theadmin> undecim: Hmm?
[20:01] <theadmin> undecim: I am running Virtualbox on Windows. Some versions had... problems with antiviruses but they're mostly gone now.
[20:01] <lionrouge> hi !
[20:01] <undecim> theadmin, yeah, you can use old versions
[20:01] <lionrouge> tell me please why there are no linux-headers-3.13.0-37 in the repo ?
[20:01] <bobbobbins> i don’t think i can use a thin client, the database data is what needs to be kept separate
[20:01] <undecim> How recently was the antivirus problem fixed?
[20:02] <theadmin> undecim: In the previous version, I think. But then it appeared just in the version before that.
[20:02] <undecim> bobbobbins, You mentioned that this would be used on "sites", which is a physical location. Is it common for several people to be at one site?
[20:02] <theadmin> So... There's only one version that's "bad"
[20:02] <theadmin> Not a very high probability
[20:02] <en1gma> is there an easy way to make a desktop shortcut for /usr/bin/gqrx
[20:03] <bobbobbins> undecim: I have to get clarification…i don’t know if its going to be accessed by people only on site, or if they expect each one to spin up a full website that the public can reach
[20:03] <bubbasaures> lionrouge, http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/devel/linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic     are you sure
[20:03] <en1gma> i keep have to open up term everytime
[20:03] <undecim> theadmin, Also, have you tried running a virtualbox on a CPU without hardware support?
[20:03] <no_gravity> Hello! Are there any good speech recognition systems for ubuntu? So I can control the windows and write text via speech?
[20:03] <undecim> bobbobbins, So is the primary function of this app to create a web page?
[20:03] <theadmin> undecim: No. I don't think I have anything that ancient laying around.
[20:04] <cbk> quit
[20:04] <bobbobbins> undecim: yeah, its a survey website
[20:04] <bobbobbins> and because its sensitive survey info, they want to keep everything compartmentalized I guess
[20:05] <undecim> bobbobbins, so this app will be running on a web server anyways?
[20:05] <nobody__> anybody here knowledgable about intel graphics not working with ubuntu?
[20:06] <lionrouge> bubbasaures, apt says it's unavailable but mentioned in other package's requirements
[20:06] <lionrouge> i don't know what does it mean
[20:06] <bobbobbins> undecim: yeah, thats the fuzzy part I’m asking about now…I’m not sure exactly what they expect, since these people aren’t going to have webservers…I’m thinking the website just needs to be available on their network, but thats a guess
[20:06] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: There is that header package .. see -> apt-cache search linux-headers <- . What are you trying to do ?
[20:07] <bubbasaures> no_gravity, There are more in linux in general, here is a link to look through, while you wait, http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/speech-recognition
[20:07] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, i'm trying to do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic
[20:07] <undecim> bobbobbins, Is the site something that can separate from the rest of the code? i.e. user sets up the survey, which generates the PHP/MySQL code, which can be uploaded to the host? Or are the PHP and Python scripts tied together?
[20:08] <bobbobbins> well the php and python both hit the mysql database
[20:08] <bobbobbins> but they’re separate from each other
[20:08] <undecim> bobbobbins, Do they have to work with the same data, or are they working on different tables?
[20:08] <no_gravity> bubbasaures: i googled around quite a while. did not find any success stories yet.
[20:08] <bobbobbins> undecim: yup, same data
[20:09] <bubbasaures> no_gravity, I have not addressed you.
[20:09] <bubbasaures> sorry my bad, I'm doing a lot here
[20:09] <theadmin> bobbobbins: I'm not sure this will work for you, but have a look at Spoon.net
[20:09] <theadmin> It seems to be... interesting, and probably will pull what you want off
[20:09] <theadmin> Not too sure though.
[20:10] <undecim> bobbobbins, how much Python code is there?
[20:10] <no_gravity> guess ill try running dragon inside a windows vm then.
[20:10] <bobbobbins> theadmin: wow, thanks, i’ll check it out
[20:11] <pauletin> hi, how do I symlink /tmp to /run/tmp in a correct way? It is said to be an optional feature of /run.
[20:11] <bobbobbins> undecim: not much, a few hundred lines
[20:11] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: It is there .. apt-cache show linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic >> Package: linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic >> Filename: pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic_3.13.0-37.64_amd64.deb . // maybe post the errors you get to a pastebin for the channels to see ?
[20:11] <bubbasaures> no_gravity, https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ubuntu+speech+recognition+  here is my search, you might look through, I know nothing in this other than to give you links.
[20:11] <no_gravity> bubbasaures: i googled around quite a while already. did not find any success stories yet.
[20:11] <undecim> bobbobbins, if it were me, I'd probably attempt to port the python code to PHP, then you'd have a PHP/MySQL app that can be deployed on a web server. A desktop, too, if you setup the server components
[20:11] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, i have a localized version of apt - it would be a bit complicated
[20:12] <undecim> bobbobbins, unless there's something OS-Specific about the code
[20:12] <bubbasaures> no_gravity, You are repeating yourself, what answer do you want when I tell you it is not an area I know?
[20:12] <bobbobbins> undecim: well there are a few cron jobs
[20:15] <bobbobbins> it would be nice if i could just deploy something to store the data on the machines, and keep the rest in one place
[20:16] <undecim> bobbobbins, I think such a deployment would raise similar privacy concerns to running it all in one place
[20:16] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, here it is: http://pastebin.com/67qttEjX
[20:17] <bobbobbins> undecim: yeah, i suppose you’re right, the data would still all be going to one place before hitting the database
[20:18] <will> Can anyone help with this? - http://askubuntu.com/questions/573372/preparing-ubuntu-to-be-turned-off-unexpectedly
[20:18] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: look'n at your http://pastebin.com/67qttEjX .
[20:18] <DexterF> hi
[20:19] <DexterF> I can just dd an ubuntu iso to a usb stick and then it is bootable like the live cd?
[20:19] <bubbasaures> DexterF, Yep.
[20:19] <DexterF> great
[20:19] <DexterF> thanks
[20:20] <bubbasaures> no prob that was an easy one. ;)
[20:20] <nobody__> intel graphics card not showing on additional drivers anyone know how to solve this?
[20:20] <nobody__> it also disables me from controlling the screen brightness
[20:20] <undecim> nobody__, when do you get when you type "lspci | grep VGA" in a terminal?
[20:21] <bubbasaures> nobody__, never seen an intel in the additional, what is the exact issue?
[20:21] <undecim> Probably it's not a lack of drivers preventing you from changing brightness
[20:21] <undecim> but a misconfiguration
[20:22] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: I do not know .. are you in fact running release 14.04 ?
[20:22] <nobody__> bashing-om, undecim, bubbasaures tried to help me yesturday but couldnt figure it out maybe he can inform you guys if hes still arround
[20:23] <bubbasaures> nobody__ Nah, I know I was here all the time.
[20:23] <bubbasaures> not what exactly though
[20:23] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, nope, i have 14.10
[20:24] <nobody__> bubbasaures, ucdecim  http://pastebin.com/K7fh2tK1
[20:24] <lionrouge> and i hate it. AMD fglrx stopped working and i need those headers to try to build beta from driver from AMD site
[20:24] <lionrouge> people, don't upgrade to 14.10
[20:25] <bubbasaures> !fud | lionrouge
[20:25] <nobody__> undecim http://pastebin.com/K7fh2tK1 thats what i get the grep command doesnt do anything
[20:25] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: That would explain it .. Why do you want an out-of-release package ? can be huge dependency issues .
[20:25] <Neldogz> Hi everyone, been having some issues with WoL (wake on lan) and Ubutu 14.10. If I enable WoL in my bios and also have an external USB hard drive plugged in.. the machine will not shut down. It simply reboots everytime I attempt to shut down.. Anyone here experience this?
[20:26] <undecim> nobody__, is the lack of backlight control the only symptom?
[20:27] <Neldogz> The WoL and external hard drive work just fine if i boot into windows 7 - dual booting
[20:27] <nobody__> undecim when i play hd videos my screen tears, also before this i had to set splash nomodeset because my screen was flickering
[20:27] <bubbasaures> nobody__, I seriously doubt I could help you any better than Bashing-om so I think best left with them. ;)
[20:27] <nobody__> bubbasaures ok np thanks
[20:28] <Bashing-om> nobody__: undecim -> sudo lshw -C disply <- shows no driver loaded .. unable to effect geting a driver loaded .
[20:28] <undecim> nobody__, can you paste /var/log/Xorg.log , /var/log/kern.log ?
[20:29] <whazzup> does anyone klnow about hardware? is a slower Quadcore better than a faster duocore for a non gamer? and how important are the processor generations? AMD vs Intel for linux?
[20:29] <undecim> whazzup, I would get a slow quad over a fast duo
[20:30] <undecim> whazzup, unless the duo was more than twice as fast
[20:30] <Neldogz> whazzup, i agree with undecim
[20:31] <whazzup> but I heard that you can't just multiply cores with speed
[20:31] <undecim> whazzup, Yeah, its more complicated than cores*speed
[20:31] <undecim> like if you are running single-core apps, they will be slower on a slow speed
[20:31] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, thanks for your help i think i will reinstall my system
[20:31] <nobody__> undecim it says itss more then 512 mb on paste bin so i cant post it the kern log
[20:32] <Neldogz> undecim, not any slower than you would be able to detect
[20:32] <whazzup> does stuff like Mathematica (very heavy computational software ) go better with speed or cores?
[20:32] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: That is one solution, but drastic .. over a graphics driver, yes ?
[20:32] <undecim> nobody__, which one?
[20:33] <whazzup> that is like the most I need from my laptop, my last had problems when I was running mathematica
[20:33] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, yup
[20:33] <SuperLag> If / is on something other than the first hard drive, where should you be putting GRUB?
[20:33] <undecim> whazzup, I would expect Mathematica to handle multiple cores well
[20:33] <lionrouge> and about this headers - for some reasons i have kernel 3.13.0-37 now
[20:33] <undecim> whazzup, But some specific operations may be single-core computations
[20:33] <nobody__> undecim theres 3 xorg logs : xorg.0.log, xorg.0.log.old , xorg.1.log
[20:34] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: Can we not purge the proprietary driver and (re-)install from the repo ? And all be good then ?
[20:34] <nobody__> undecim the kern log is more then 512
[20:34] <whazzup> undecim: ok thanks
[20:34] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, i tried it multiple times, it's just broken. And even beta is "14.04 compatible"
[20:35] <lionrouge> and the open-source is not that good. It doesn't provide good 3d acceleration and has bad fan control
[20:35] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: With a kernel issue and other problems, ya might be better served just to install 14.04 LTS . confidence factor .
[20:36] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, i had it before update and everything was just great
[20:36] <whazzup> but AMD vs intel doesn't make a difference for linux?
[20:37] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: depending on the card .. there are propritary drivers from ATI available in the repo ..
[20:37] <lionrouge> whazzup, no it does
[20:37] <lionrouge> Bashing-om, yeah, fglrx and fglrx-updates
[20:37] <lionrouge> both doesn't support 14.10 yet
[20:37] <Bashing-om> lionrouge: yep updates break OEM drivers . They are not-ubuntu .
[20:37] <undecim> nobody__, That's strange for your kern.log to be so big.
[20:38] <lionrouge> whazzup, at the moment NVidia has much better linux drivers (both prop. and open-source) than AMD
[20:38] <undecim> nobody__, Mine are in the 25KiB area
[20:39] <Jordan_U> nobody__: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[20:39] <nobody__> undecim yea every command that bashing had me run was bigger then he expected
[20:39] <undecim> nobody__, do you have a /var/log/kern.log.1?
[20:40] <nobody__> Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/1dzdk6F1
[20:40] <nobody__> undecim no just normal kern
[20:41] <jhutchins> whazzup: The thing that makes the difference is how well the software does multithreading.  If it's written to make good use of multiple cores, and the task you're doing is broad enough to benefit, then more cores is good.
[20:42] <undecim> nobody__, Mine rotate like your Xorg does. I'm on 14.04 and have kern.log.1, kern.log.2.gz, etc...
[20:42] <jhutchins> whazzup: If you're doing a single-thread task, or a task that can't be split into as many threads as you have cores, then clock speed will win out.
[20:43] <jhutchins> whazzup: I would think that processing large datasets with mathematica would take good advantage of multiple cores.
[20:43] <undecim> whazzup, in my experience, you get more bang for your buck with AMD
[20:43] <nobody__> undecim yea i have no idea why it does this i just installed it on sunday after i bought the laptop
[20:43] <whazzup> lionrouge: and is NVIDIA = intel?
[20:43] <whazzup> undecim: yes that is what I see looking at the prices too
[20:44] <whazzup> but browsing, watching videos and (hobby programming) wouldn't make use of multiple cores right?
[20:45] <undecim> whazzup, they won't make use of clock speed, either
[20:45] <undecim> whazzup, some video codecs use multiple cores
[20:46] <kristian__> brasil
[20:47] <kristian__> alguém do brasil
[20:47] <DJones> !br | kristian__
[20:47] <undecim> whazzup, multi-cores lag less. There is usually core or two that aren't being overloaded by CPU-intensive apps (whether it's something you have crunching numbers in the background or some application that's misbehaving), and other apps that need to do something "right now", like typing in a code window will use the available core
[20:48] <undecim> nobody__, What is the total size of your kern.log?
[20:48] <undecim> nobody__, Because you shouldn't have more than a few lines per day in a kern.log unless something is generating messages
[20:49] <MotherMGA> Hello, I've been having intermittent wireless disconnects. It happens about 1-2 times per day. Wireless is stable for all of my other laptops. Network manager shows that I'm connected when it goes out but I cannot ping my router. Anyone know what this is or how I can troubleshoot? Ubuntu 14.10 using the RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter (rtl8723be driver)
[20:49] <nobody__> undecim it says 1.2MB
[20:50] <undecim> nobody__, Well that's nowhere near 512MB....
[20:50] <Neldogz> Hi everyone, been having some issues with WoL (wake on lan) and Ubutu 14.10. If I enable WoL in my bios and also have an external USB hard drive plugged in.. the machine will not shut down. It simply reboots everytime I attempt to shut down.. Anyone here experience this?
[20:50] <Neldogz> The WoL and external hard drive work just fine if i boot into windows 7 - dual booting
[20:51] <MotherMGA> Also when it fails, nm-tool output shows my speed as 7Mb/s when its normally 72 working. Thats the only difference in output.
[20:51] <undecim> nobody__, Maybe try a different paste?
[20:51] <undecim> paste tool*
[20:51] <whazzup> undecim: ah ok that sounds very good. only thing bugging me on my old laptop was that when I had mathematica open in background and a lot of tabs he sometimes liked to freeze
[20:51] <undecim> MotherMGA, What model wireless card?
[20:51] <MotherMGA> lshw says its  RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[20:52] <nobody__> undecim how do i get or use that
[20:52] <undecim> whazzup, well if Mathematica uses all the cores, you might get it with a quad, too.
[20:52] <undecim> nobody__, fpaste.org
[20:53] <undecim> nobody__, Not sure if there is a limit on there. HTML on the page doesn't suggest one.
[20:53] <whazzup> ah damn I am so bad at making decisions :D
[20:53] <nobody__> undecim after i hit paste nothing happens
[20:54] <undecim> whazzup, If you're looking at a few specific processors, you could post them here for a discussion
[20:54] <undecim> nobody__, Are you sure you copied?
[20:54] <nobody__> yea
[20:54] <MotherMGA> undecim: http://pastebin.com/UfrH67DR
[20:54] <undecim> nobody__, Can you paste them anywhere else?
[20:54] <nobody__> no i mean the paste to upload
[20:54] <whazzup> undecim: thanks I will maybe do that. But graphic card doesn't interest me at all as none gamer right?
[20:55] <nobody__> undecim i dont know anywhere else
[20:55] <undecim> whazzup, new generations CPUs have builtin GPUs
[20:55] <nobody__> undecim unless you dont mind google docs
[20:55] <undecim> nobody__, Docs works for me
[20:55] <SuperLag> Can you put the bootloader on a drive that doesn't have your root partition on it?
[20:55] <undecim> SuperLag, yes
[20:55] <undecim> SuperLag, but unless you have a good reason, don't
[20:57] <SuperLag> undecim: I have 3 drives in this system, and the one where I want to put / is the smallest one, and it's /dev/sdc
[20:57] <SuperLag> undecim: one large drive is full of VMs already, and the other large drive is going to be /home
[20:57] <undecim> MotherMGA, Have you looked at http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/170012/rtl8723be-realtek-wifi-card-driver-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-04
[20:58] <MotherMGA> undecim: no. looking now
[20:58] <nobody__> undecim looks like docs isnt working either script keeps having issue when i cntrl v
[20:58] <undecim> SuperLag: Boot stuff doesn't usually take up a lot of space
[20:58] <MotherMGA> so recompile drivers... great.
[20:58] <undecim> nobody__, Install pastebinit
[20:58] <undecim> MotherMGA, isn't it?
[20:59] <mac__> hy i got problem's after fresh install of ubuntu 14 lts..
[20:59] <MotherMGA> undecim. better than it being broken
[20:59] <stoogenmeyer> hey how would you map the CAPSLOCK key to the left CTRL key in Vim ?
[20:59] <undecim> SuperLag, how much space is your /boot directory taking up?
[21:01] <glisigno1i> Hello! Anyone familiar with unattended-upgrades? Specifically why it doesn't seem to detect packages to be 'autoremoved'?
[21:01] <undecim> MotherMGA, launchpad says the bug you're describing is fixed with linux 3.13.0-29.53
[21:02] <nobody__> undecim i ran sudo apt-get install pastebinit what now i cant find it
[21:02] <mac__> any geek can help me out?  got problem's after fresh install of ubuntu 14 lts.. can't update
[21:02] <undecim> nobody__, It's a CLI command
[21:02] <MotherMGA> undesim: yes, but this says its not: http://askubuntu.com/questions/457341/wifi-drops-and-wont-reconnect-until-reboot-14-04-with-rtl8723be
[21:02] <jhutchins> mac__: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[21:02] <Prezident> Howto read "you have mails" in ssh?
[21:02] <MotherMGA> it does give a way to fix it without rebooting though `rmmod rtl8723be && modprobe rtl8723be`
[21:02] <undecim> MotherMGA, Meant to say check your kernel version first, just to be sure
[21:03] <MotherMGA> I'm on 3.16
[21:03] <mac__> i got fresh install of 14.4. lts.. after install i removed cd, reboot, want to update, but got errors instead..
[21:03] <nobody__> undecim soory im a noob what do i do
[21:03] <undecim> nobody__, in a terminal, do "pastebinit < /var/log/kern.log"
[21:03] <undecim> nobody__, And that should return a link to the paste
[21:04] <Prezident> Hello, how can i read my "mails" in terminal when i login to ssh i see a mesage " You got mail"
[21:04] <undecim> Prezident, "mail"?
[21:04] <mac__> jhutchins,  tnx
[21:04] <glisigno1i> Prezident: That would require a mail client
[21:04] <whazzup> how do I find out if graphic cards / processors work under linux / ubuntu?
[21:04] <nobody__> undecim http://paste.ubuntu.com/9735151/
[21:05] <Prezident> You have mail.
[21:05] <Prezident> Last login: Tue Jan 13 22:02:12 2015 from
[21:05] <Prezident> looks like this
[21:05] <SuperLag> undecim: I didn't have a separate /boot. I separated stuff out like this: /, /opt, /usr/local/, /home, /opt/vm
[21:05] <Pici> Prezident: type: mail
[21:06] <mac__> jhutchins,   i am ready with other computer..
[21:07] <MotherMGA> undecim: thanks for your help.
[21:07] <undecim> nobody__, You never did paste Xorg.log?
[21:08] <nobody__> undecim which of the three do you want
[21:08] <undecim> nobody__, 0
[21:08] <undecim> nobody__, 0 is the current X session, 1 was the last session, etc.
[21:09] <DJones> After installing updates today via update manager, an error was flagged up, the term.log is http://paste.ubuntu.com/9735153/ with the error shown on line 62 specifically, "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.16.0-29-generic (x86_64)" this is on 14.10 with nvidia-prime installed, is the error something to worry about
[21:09] <mac__> jhutchins,  are u busy?
[21:09] <nobody__> undecim http://paste.ubuntu.com/9735212/
[21:10] <mac__> any geek can help me out?  got problem's after fresh install of ubuntu 14 lts.. can't update, errors returned.. need pc to work
[21:10] <mac__> please
[21:10] <nickander> which errors?
[21:11] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 32 bit from both usb and DVD, both of which fail on the splash screen that says 'ubuntu' with the dots below it.
[21:11] <mac__> i don't know yet.. newb..
[21:11] <mac__> and system crashes every few minutes
[21:11] <mac__> like freeze
[21:12] <MisteryJohn> may i request some help regarding a command ?
[21:12] <Pinkamena_D> yes
[21:13] <MisteryJohn>  so .. i need sed to do the following : replace every occurence of the following in a file : [text1](text2) with [[text2|text1]], with text1 and text2 being mostly any string and keep the []()| as they are on the pattern. Also, can i do this with awk ? how ?
[21:13] <bubbasaures> mac__, Pastebin the update run from the terminal.
[21:13] <mac__> nickander, working
[21:13] <bubbasaures> !pastebin | mac__
[21:14] <francesco_> list
[21:14] <Neldogz> Hi everyone, been having some issues with WoL (wake on lan) and Ubutu 14.10. If I enable WoL in my bios and also have an external USB hard drive plugged in.. the machine will not shut down. It simply reboots everytime I attempt to shut down.. Anyone here experience this?
[21:14] <Neldogz> The WoL and external hard drive work just fine if i boot into windows 7 - dual booting
[21:14] <bubbasaures> francesco_, No wares here
[21:14] <undecim> nobody__, Have you seen http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/intel-linux-graphics-installer.html
[21:15] <MisteryJohn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9735275/ sorry for that, didn't know the rules
[21:15] <nobody__> undecim no not yet should i install that?
[21:15] <undecim> nobody__, It's the Intel drivers from Intel
[21:16] <undecim> nobody__, It's not part of the official Ubuntu-supported packages. this is from the people who made the graphics card to begin with.
[21:16] <nobody__> undecim how would i go about installing that
[21:16] <undecim> nobody__, section on the page: "Download Intel Linux Graphics Installer"
[21:16] <undecim> nobody__, Has all the instructions there
[21:17] <nobody__> undecim you sure its fine? doesnt say 14.04
[21:17] <mac__> bubbasaures,  paste.ubuntu.com/9735322/
[21:18] <undecim> nobody__, On the first Intel link on the page, there is another link to the "new" download page at https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[21:18] <undecim> nobody__, There is a link there for 14.04
[21:18] <nobody__> undecim would i need to install the graphics release?
[21:19] <whazzup> does anyone know of problems with either Radeon R5 M230 2 GB or AMD HD 8750M  on linux?
[21:19] <undecim> nobody__, you need the "Graphics Installer"
[21:20] <nobody__> undecim alright im intalling and running the gui now
[21:20] <undecim> nobody__, Let me know how it works
[21:20] <whazzup> undecim: I am know deciding between http://amzn.to/1xXK9no this and http://amzn.to/1Bl9Rnt this
[21:20] <nobody__> undecim how do i go about uninstalling the graphics installer after words or do i leave it.. i havent learned how to uninstall stuff yet
[21:21] <Guest1_> HI.
[21:21] <whazzup> first one has no windows installed which I appreciate, but second has quadcore
[21:21] <Guest1_> I want to compile a library and an app that uses it and have few questions relating to that. How do I update? Do I just compile the new version normally and everything is replaced and leaves no unneeded trash? Also if there're any possible problems when compiling one part (library) and installing other things from repos?
[21:21] <Bashing-om> mac__: Try -> sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists , sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- to clear that error condition.
[21:22] <mac__> tnx
[21:22] <DexterF> why cant I install openssh-server in 14.04 live?
[21:22] <DexterF> it keeps bothering me with dependencies and then won't let me chose them
[21:22] <SuperLag> GRUB boot menu, I choose "Ubuntu" and I get a blinking cursor. This is getting so discouraging. :(
[21:22] <rww> DexterF: sudo apt-get update, if you haven't already
[21:23] <undecim> whazzup, Details Processor specs: http://ark.intel.com/products/72056/Intel-Core-i5-3230M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_20-GHz-BGA   http://products.amd.com/pages/notebookapudetail.aspx?id=112&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
[21:23] <Pinkamena_D> When trying to install ubuntu, I turned on nomodeset to see messages. The computer freezes at the item 'Starting Failsafe Boot Delay'
[21:23] <Pinkamena_D> this has been frozen about 10 minutes now
[21:24] <DexterF> rww that did it, thanks
[21:24] <rww> :)
[21:24] <punkgeek> what is kubuntu live session password?
[21:24] <punkgeek> :D
[21:24] <DexterF> when I chose german in live, what do I have to do to get german keyb laout right away?
[21:24] <undecim> whazzup, they look pretty matched on everything but clock speed vs cores
[21:25] <mac__> Bashing-om, .. is error with mkdir normal? invalid option.. enetring the last sentece
[21:25] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Why 32 bit? "nomodeset" is *not* the correct parameter if all that you want to do is see boot messages instead of the splash screen, for that you want to just remove the "splash" and possibly "quiet" kernel parameters.
[21:25] <whazzup> undecim: ok then I would take the quad core I guess
[21:25] <Pinkamena_D> I removed them too
[21:25] <Pinkamena_D> 32 bit because the computer is old
[21:26] <Pinkamena_D> I installed 12.04 on a thinkpad T60 in the past, I dont know what is wrong with this
[21:27] <DexterF> cannot ssh to root@livecd even after setting a password from #. what now?
[21:28] <squinty> mac__:  maybe try the following   sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists && sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial && sudo apt-get update    (you can just copy paste that as all one command)
[21:28] <mac__> Bashing-om, it worked!!
[21:28] <undecim> DexterF, What error appears?
[21:28] <rww> DexterF: if I recall correctly, Ubuntu disables ssh to root by default, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[21:28] <mac__> just upgrading for the first time :-)
[21:28] <Bashing-om> mac__: No that is not expected . I see nothing wrong with the mkdir command . did you copy/paste -> such that there is not a error ?
[21:28] <rww> DexterF: (the setting is PermitRootLogin)
[21:28] <squinty> punkgeek:  afaik, there should be no password required for any of the livedvd's
[21:29] <nobody__> undecinm alright gotta restart lets see how it goes
[21:29] <punkgeek> yes i got it thank you
[21:30] <mac__> i did not copy paste.. is on other pc.. but.. i think i get the whole thing together
[21:30] <Bashing-om> mac__: All good now ?
[21:30] <mac__> yes..
[21:31] <mac__> it is installing.. as we speak, thank u very much.. u got a beer in good by me
[21:31] <jhutchins> whazzup: It occurrs to me that mathematica should have benchmarks that show what hardware it likes.
[21:31] <Bashing-om> mac__: Great .. then I wish Happy Trails to You . We have nother adventure next time .
[21:32] <mac__> :-) thank u..  true :-)
[21:35] <nobody__> undecim cant tell everything thing seems the same
[21:36] <undecim> whazzup, I've had no issues running the Radeon GPU in my A10-7850K
[21:37] <nobody__> undecim still cant controll the blacklight of my display
[21:42] <Bashing-om> nobody__: undecim From the log .. backlight is contolled by the graphics driver . Is a driver now loaded ? show -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit <- .
[21:42] <OsenpaiX> what? :o
[21:42] <rww> hrm?
[21:44] <jhutchins> Pinkamena_D: The installer doesn't use modeset, so nomodeset is probably not what you want.  Did you checksum the iso file?
[21:44] <nobody__> bashing-om, undecim http://pastebin.com/SDyNbWt4 looks like it did nothing
[21:45] <Bashing-om> nobody__: look;n at your http://pastebin.com/SDyNbWt4 .
[21:46] <Bashing-om> nobody__: undecim .. yuk, yep, no driver loaded ..
[21:46] <undecim> nobody__, I wonder if the fbdev driver is claiming the display before intel loads all the way?
[21:47] <mac__> and i am back.. :-S :-(
[21:47] <mac__> paste.ubuntu.com/9735507
[21:47] <undecim> nobody__, we could try removing the fbdev driver, but it might break Xorg completely until you reinstall it
[21:48] <undecim> nobody__, You would have to be able to reinstall it from the command line to fix if it breaks Xorg
[21:49] <nobody__> undecim alright lets do that later when i get home so i can stay in irc on another computer incase shit goes down
[21:49] <undecim> nobody__, Yeah, plus freenode is "rehubbing" right now
[21:50] <nobody__> undecim that explains why theres all this unceccary text lol
[21:50] <undecim> nobody__, Yeah. there was a message about it earlier, but its easy to miss amidst the chatter
[21:51] <nobody__> undecim yea i usually dont check back irc until it says activity in the tab
[21:51] <mac__> any1 copy?
[21:51] <raub> Back from a split!
[21:52] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Please try booting without nomodeset, and also without quiet and splash.
[21:52] <Bashing-om> mac__: I did ,, but I do not do 'samba' no experience .. what were you trying to install ?
[21:57] <hydrajump> anyone know if it is possible to show `indicator sys-monitor` on the lightdm unity-greeter screen?
[21:58] <johnb003_> hi, I've been trying to set up a pc router. I have a remote desktop which I want to connect to with another PC on the lan, but somehow it's not working.
[21:59] <johnb003_> If I were trying to access it outside of the network I'd think it'd be a port forwarding problem
[21:59] <johnb003_> but I've got a wired network and my wireless AP with a bridge,....
[22:00] <johnb003_> I can ping the ip, but I cannot connect to the RDP, it works if I use a router though
[22:00] <quatrox> johnb003_: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[22:00] <johnb003_> quatrox it's 1
[22:00] <johnb003_> and net to the wan is working...
[22:01] <HamRadio> I like unity under Ubuntu 14.04
[22:01] <mac__> paste.ubuntu.com/9735507
[22:01] <johnb003_> I just can't seem to connect to the lan computer with Remote desktop
[22:01] <HamRadio> Running Manjaro with Gnome
[22:01] <compdoc> johnb003_, what OS in on the lan computer?
[22:02] <johnb003_> windows 7
[22:02] <mac__> paste.ubuntu.com/9735507
[22:02] <johnb003_> and I'm trying to connect with mac os x
[22:02] <johnb003_> compdoc, it was working fine when I was on the router
[22:02] <compdoc> johnb003_, did you enable remote desktop? its off by default
[22:02] <compdoc> oh, ok
[22:02] <johnb003_> yeah I was using it a bunch until I switched over the the pc as a router
[22:02] <Neldogz> Hi everyone, been having some issues with WoL (wake on lan) and Ubutu 14.10. If I enable WoL in my bios and also have an external USB hard drive plugged in.. the machine will not shut down. It simply reboots everytime I attempt to shut down.. Anyone here experience this?
[22:02] <Neldogz> The WoL and external hard drive work just fine if i boot into windows 7 - dual booting
[22:03] <johnb003_> a different one running ubuntu
[22:03] <compdoc> so youve forwarded the port? 3389 tcp?
[22:03] <johnb003_> compdoc, nope
[22:03] <johnb003_> compdoc, I didn't forward any ports because I'm not accessing it from the wan
[22:04] <johnb003_> I'm trying to access it from the lan.
[22:04] <johnb003_> with a local IP
[22:04] <johnb003_> there's no question of which PC I am trying to communicate with as there would be with an external connection
[22:05] <quatrox> johnb003_: I am still a bit confused about how your current configuration is, so it is hard to help
[22:05] <compdoc> johnb003_, yeah, tell us about the lan. what about this router?
[22:06] <johnb003_> mac os x (wireless) connecting to windows 7 RDP, via a ubuntu box (has 2 wired nic and 1 wireless) The wireless and local lan are bridged, and the brdige has nat to the external wired network
[22:07] <compdoc> sounds complicated. you use iptables or anything? what ip addresses are each device?
[22:08] <johnb003_> I have iptables set to accept everything right now to eliminate that as a possibility
[22:10] <johnb003_> the br0 is 192.168.0.1
[22:10] <johnb003_> eth1 and wlan0 don't have ip addresses as they are used by the br0
[22:10] <johnb003_> eth0 is my external connection
[22:13] <Ceri> Is it safe to remove libwacom2 and libwacom-common? As well as the things that apparently have to be removed along with it: gnome-control-center, gnome-power-manager, gnome-session, gnome-settings-daemon, indicator-datetime indicator-power,  indicator-session,  unity-greeter?
[22:13] <quatrox> johnb003_: and you can ping the windows computer from the mac (via the ubuntu router)?
[22:14] <johnb003_> I can ping it yes
[22:14] <johnb003_> I'll try hosting a simple python app that echos packets on a port, and see if it works
[22:15] <leoliuwa> hi everyone
[22:27] <sx777> Guys any tips on how to open goverment PDFs? I'm just getting "To view the full contents of this document, you need a later version of the PDF viewer. You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader"
[22:28] <svetlana> sx777: fiddle with your browser to download the actual thing (if you give me url i might be able to look at it within 12 hours)
[22:28] <quatrox> sx777: You could try with evince (document viewer)
[22:29] <sx777> svetlana: will try, so far LibreDraw and MasterPDF failed me
[22:29] <svetlana> do you have the actual file
[22:29] <svetlana> .pdf
[22:30] <sx777> Yes
[22:30] <bubbasaures> sx777, reader 9 from adobe is our last one.
[22:30] <svetlana> if you do, i don't think a pdf reader would be capable of coming up with that error message, unless the document has javascript in it
[22:30] <svetlana> which program is the error message coming from?
[22:31] <sx777> svetlana: Both MasterPDf and LibreDraw
[22:31] <svetlana> ok, i suspect i can't help more without looking at what the file contains
[22:31] <sx777> Sec.
[22:32] <quatrox> sx777: what happens if you try to open it with evince (or kpdf)?
[22:32] <Basketball> what is the best calendar app that can sync with google calendar
[22:33] <sx777> Evince isn't working , here's the form
[22:33] <sx777> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/index.asp
[22:33] <Pinkamena_D> trying to install R latest version on ubuntu, I added a new source line to sources and ran an update / upgrade / clean / autoclean. No matter what I do I still get 'you have held broken packages'
[22:33] <sx777> Form is IMM5708
[22:34] <Pinkamena_D> core depends base which depends core
[22:34] <Pinkamena_D> is there a way to fix this
[22:35] <svetlana> sx777: i am on a borked computer without X on it, but i'll be able to try on a proper computer within 12 hours; if no-one here helps, you can leave me your email in pm
[22:35] <svetlana> i do hope someone tries to download that thing and look at it though :)
[22:35] <quatrox> Pinkamena_D: it should print information on which command you need to run as well
[22:36] <sx777> svetlana: спасибо but I'm working on limited time :)
[22:36] <quatrox> sx777: I get to a page with lots of links.  Does it matter which one I try?
[22:36] <svetlana> quatrox: use drop down at the top
[22:36] <sx777> quotrox: Select form IMM 5708
[22:36] <svetlana> quatrox: select IMM5708 and click 'submit', it should ask you to dl a file
[22:36] <Pinkamena_D> here is what it says: https://bpaste.net/show/2db1e8d762ba
[22:37] <Pinkamena_D> I never really understood this package manager well. It says 'but it is not going to be installed' but does not explain why not.
[22:37] <nobody__> undecim alrightt im ready to try to uninstall the thing you suggested
[22:40] <quatrox> sx777: interesting.  In evince I can see the table of content on the left and only one page is displayed showing that text
[22:41] <sx777> quotrox: Same exact problem
[22:44] <nikofoko> ciao
[22:45] <nikofoko> !list
[22:45] <hydrajump> where are the default indicators stored, .e.g /usr/share/unity/indicators/com.canonical.indicator.datetime
[22:46] <hydrajump> "ObjectPath=/com/canonical/indicator/datetime" where is that on the FS?
[22:46] <sx777> svetlana and quatrox thanks for your time ,I'll try with 9.5.5. version of adobe or install windows from VM. Bye :D
[22:52] <ko3t> Hi! I am trying to find a how to about installing IBM Informix on Ubuntu Utopic (a client asked if I can do that). Any advice? I googled but it seems to find only client related stuff
[22:53] <mbalmer> want an honest answer ko3t?
[22:54] <ko3t> NO!!! Please, just not the host one
[22:54] <ko3t> honest
[22:54] <ikonia> ko3t: the installer is a standard set of shell scripts
[22:54] <ikonia> ko3t: so if the version is supported on linux - components that are available in utopic, you will be fine
[22:54] <ko3t> oh. so no weird libraries
[22:54] <mbalmer> ko3t, well, then...
[22:54] <ikonia> ko3t: I'd certainly be asking IBM for the install requirements and support requirements
[22:54] <bubbasaures> ko3t, Their page shows support in linux.
[22:55] <ko3t> yes, but it's few years old
[22:55] <ko3t> libraries change
[22:55] <ikonia> ko3t: I suspect you'll find problems as RHEL 4 / 5 is supported, meaning it will be expecting quite old versions of core libraries
[22:55] <bubbasaures> ko3t, Did not say to use it, just that there was/is linux suport
[22:56] <ko3t> right
[22:56] <ko3t> sad story
[22:56] <mbalmer> sounds so.  but could easily have a happy end.
[22:58] <ko3t> yep, that's what broadband is for
[22:58] <ikonia> ?
[22:58] <ko3t> May be I will try Windows or OSX. Wish it was linux thought
[22:58] <mbalmer> what is broadband in this context?
[22:58] <ko3t> to have a happy end
[22:58] <johnb003_> quatrox, just to follow up, the problem was a windows firewall
[22:58] <ikonia> ko3t: it appears to have no windows or Mac OSX support
[22:59] <ikonia> ko3t: but talk to IBM
[22:59] <johnb003_> it got changed from home network to public network
[22:59] <quatrox> ko3t: not sure if this is the client or server, but it mention libstdc++5: http://www.planetids.com/content/informix-ubuntu
[22:59] <quatrox> johnb003_: thanks for the info.  I had a feeling
[23:00] <ko3t> quatrox: this doc says 4, and it seems to be the latest
[23:00] <ko3t> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGU8G_11.70.0/com.ibm.relnotes.doc/notes/ifx_1170xc4/mach/ids_machine_notes_11.70.lin64.html
[23:02] <ko3t> quatrox: it seems to be a rec for Informix CSDK - client SDK
[23:03] <quatrox> k03t: aha
[23:03] <quatrox> ko3t: I am sorry, but I cannot help you
[23:04] <ko3t> quatrox: thank you for what you've done, I really appreciate it
[23:05] <ko3t> thank you all, good people of #Ubuntu
[23:05] <nobody__> undecim are you online?
[23:28] <Nixus> hey, I can't seem to get my volume control on my keyboard to work on lubuntu 14.04.1
[23:30] <dee> anyone know a safe linux luna kernal upgrade
[23:30] <dee> ??
[23:31] <dee> anyone know a safe linux luna kernal upgrade
[23:31] <IdleOne> what is linux luna?
[23:31] <Nixus> elementary linux luna?
[23:32] <bubbasaures> Nixus, Look at the keyboard gui.
[23:32] <wagle> how do i clear a (bogus) false negative from the DNS cache?
[23:32] <dee> linux elementary
[23:32] <IdleOne> ask them
[23:32] <IdleOne> this is Ubuntu support
[23:32] <dee> how
[23:32] <IdleOne> check their website for support options and see if they have an IRC channel
[23:32] <dee> linux elementary is ubuntu based
[23:32] <Nixus> ok, I'm in there
[23:33] <bubbasaures> Nixus, look in sound and assign keys you want
[23:33] <IdleOne> dee: based on and equal to are not the same
[23:33] <dee> ok thank you bye
[23:34] <Nixus> sound? there are three tabs: general, input method and advanced
[23:34] <undecim> nobody__, ping
[23:34] <Nixus> I think it's just for changing the language
[23:34] <nobody__> undecim ready?
[23:34] <undecim> nobody__,
[23:34] <undecim> nobody__, yeah*
[23:35] <bubbasaures> Nixus, I have not used lubuntu for awhile, look around for the volume up and down, if you find them click on each and assign the key prompts you want.
[23:35] <nobody__> undecim alright what do i do
[23:35] <undecim> So, to uninstall fbdev, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-fbdev"
[23:35] <undecim> nobody__, If it breaks your X server, you'll have to log into the command line with your username and password
[23:35] <bubbasaures> Nixus, A picture in imagebin of what you see if stuck might help.
[23:35] <bubbasaures> !imagebin | Nixus
[23:36] <undecim> nobody__, And run "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-fbdev" to get the fbdev driver back
[23:36] <nobody__> alright lets hope it doesnt break
[23:36] <undecim> nobody__, You may also need to uninstall vesa
[23:37] <nobody__> undecim what do i do to uninstall
[23:37] <undecim> nobody__, that's the xserver-xorg-video-vesa package (same as other, but with 'vesa' instead of 'fbdev'
[23:38] <undecim> nobody__, Do "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-fbdev"
[23:38] <undecim> nobody__, And to reinstall, you run the same command (press the UP key) but change the word "remove" to "install"
[23:39] <undecim> nobody__, You'll have to uninstall the drivers, reboot, and if X isn't working, you run the "install" command to put them back
[23:39] <nobody__> undecim so im removing and then reinstalling
[23:39] <nobody__> ok
[23:39] <undecim> nobody__, you don't need to reinstall if it works after uninstall
[23:39] <nobody__> ok
[23:40] <undecim> If the intel driver STILL doesn't take over the card after removing these two, then you'll be stuck at a command prompt (white text on a black screen), untill you log into the command prompt and run the install command
[23:40] <nobody__> undecim alright uninstalled both of em now just restart?
[23:40] <undecim> yup
[23:41] <bubbasaures> Nixus, Not sure you knew this upon choosing lubuntu but it is more config based than gui's to change things, still easy to run, just a little more skill set stuff.
[23:42] <Nixus> I know. I wanna try challenge myself and learn more, instead of always using gui stuff
[23:42] <nobody__> undecim it says black box login so im assuming it didnt worrk and reinstall?
[23:42] <bubbasaures> Nixus, Good, you will do fine I would bet. ;)
[23:42] <undecim> nobody__, correct
[23:42] <Nixus> I hope...
[23:43] <bubbasaures> Nixus, Took me about 6 months with ubuntu to figure out what not to do, started on it though so not sure a vaild time but for me.
[23:44] <nobody__> undecim what do i type to restart from command line
[23:44] <undecim> nobody__, Control-Alt-Delete will do it
[23:44] <undecim> nobody__, Or sudo reboot
[23:44] <Nixus> yeah, I spent about 5-6 months in xubuntu, just trying this out
[23:44] <undecim> Nixus, I prefer Lubuntu over Xubuntu
[23:45] <nobody__> undecim back to the way it was. what now?
[23:46] <undecim> nobody__, Do you have nomodeset on?
[23:46] <nobody__> yea
[23:46] <Nixus> ok, I've always stuck with XFCE until now. I don't want to run something like KDE because performance is a concern
[23:46] <undecim> nobody__, How does the system behave with it off?
[23:46] <nobody__> undecim scren flickers like crazy
[23:47] <nahuel_> sorry i need the dir of the spanish chanel please
[23:48] <bazhang> !es
[23:48] <undecim> nobody__, Is it unusable?
[23:48] <nobody__> no
[23:48] <nobody__> if i leave it too long screen turns black
[23:48] <undecim> nobody__, Can you disable nomodeset, reboot, and paste Xorg.0.log?
[23:49] <nobody__> whats the command to get to the txt page i forgot
[23:49] <undecim> nobody__, pastebinit?
[23:49] <undecim> nobody__, pastebinit < logfile
[23:49] <nobody__> undecim no to disable nomodesett
[23:49] <undecim> nobody__, command | pastebinit
[23:50] <undecim> nobody__, edit /etc/default/grub
[23:50] <undecim> nobody__, I can't seem to recall the grub reconfigure command for after editing... brb, Google.
[23:51] <Nixus> also, I've noticed that when I minimize/maximize my windows, the animation is always going down even though my panel is on the top. Any way to change this?
[23:51] <nobody__> undecim no its fine i gotit
[23:51] <undecim> nobody__, update-grub
[23:51] <nobody__> undecim so just return it back to quiet splash?
[23:51] <undecim> nobody__, After the edit
[23:51] <Bashing-om> undecim: nobody__ -> sudo update-grub <- .
[23:51] <undecim> Bashing-om, oh yeah, sudo ,lol
[23:52] <undecim> nobody__, yes, quiet splash
[23:53] <nobody__> undecim its not letting me save so i gotta go to the file from CLI, but i forgot what you have to type to get to the file
[23:54] <undecim> nobody__, sudo nano /path/to/file
[23:54] <undecim> nobody__, Also, press ALT+F2 and type "gksu gedit" to edit system files with GUI
[23:58] <Nixus> bubbasaures: what distro did you use after ubuntu?