| Unit193 | ochosi: That's massivly crashy, yes.. I'd thought you tested it. | 00:49 |
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| Unit193 | brainwash: freshplayerplugin done anything good? | 07:32 |
| elfy | ochosi bluesabre - looks like end Jan/beginning Feb for systemd default | 08:20 |
| ochosi | Unit193: nope, i just wanted the opportunity to test it | 09:05 |
| brainwash_ | ochosi: this dbus call works http://lpaste.net/118360 | 09:57 |
| brainwash_ | "/org/freedesktop/ScreenSaver" instead of just "/ScreenSaver" | 10:04 |
| Mez | What's the best way to go about reporting xubuntu security issues these days ? | 10:20 |
| Mez | hello? Is this thing on? | 10:28 |
| ochosi | Mez: i've already replied to your bugreport | 11:05 |
| ochosi | brainwash: right. guess that means there'll have to be another bugreport. sucks cause i don't have kde around to try whether that works with their screensaver as well | 11:07 |
| ochosi | Mez: no need for private chat, that bugreport could also just as well be public btw | 11:10 |
| brainwash | which bug report? :) | 11:10 |
| Mez | ochosi: I can film that bug if you want. | 11:11 |
| Mez | It is definitely happening on multiple PCs here. | 11:12 |
| ochosi | no need to film it | 11:12 |
| Mez | might be something to do with multi-screen/whatever | 11:12 |
| ochosi | have you checked whether light-locker is running? | 11:12 |
| ochosi | (ps -A | grep light-locker) | 11:12 |
| ochosi | and how do you lock your session? | 11:12 |
| ochosi | brainwash: just the typical thing that we had a 1000 times already | 11:13 |
| Mez | ochosi: light-locker is not currently running. I lock my session using ctrl+alt+del | 11:13 |
| brainwash | oh noes | 11:13 |
| ochosi | Mez: if it isn't running, then start it. bug fixed. | 11:13 |
| ochosi | how shall the locker lock the session if it isn't running? | 11:13 |
| Mez | if I lock my screen, it shows it's running? | 11:14 |
| ochosi | no, | 11:14 |
| Mez | % ps -A | grep light-locker dev/packaging one | 11:14 |
| Mez | 2853 ? 00:00:00 light-locker | 11:14 |
| Mez | Sorry, my mistake, I thought that was actually the grep it'd brought back | 11:14 |
| ochosi | so if you lock with light-locker-command -l from the terminal, what happens exactly? | 11:15 |
| ochosi | brainwash: anyway, you have more experience with taking ppl through this, feel free to take over i gotta go in 5mins anyway | 11:15 |
| Mez | ochosi: it switches me to a lock screen on vt8 | 11:16 |
| Mez | ochosi, and then I hit ctrl+alt+f7, and bypass entering my password | 11:16 |
| Mez | to get back to typing to you here. | 11:16 |
| ochosi | Mez: i can't help you to debug this now, simply cause i don't have time | 11:18 |
| ochosi | but it's working for pretty much everyone else, in case that helps you ;) | 11:18 |
| ochosi | so clean install, update all packages and it should work | 11:18 |
| ochosi | maybe someone else can help you get to the bottom of what's not working for you | 11:19 |
| Mez | ochosi: This is a clean instlal, update all packages :) | 11:19 |
| Mez | I'm setting up a VM to replicate it | 11:19 |
| ochosi | bbl | 11:19 |
| brainwash | Mez: kill the currently running instance of light-locker and restart it in debug mode "light-locker --debug" | 11:21 |
| brainwash | now lock the screen | 11:21 |
| brainwash | can you please link your bug report also? | 11:22 |
| Mez | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1410195 | 11:25 |
| ubottu | Error: launchpad bug 1410195 not found | 11:25 |
| Mez | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9728445/ | 11:25 |
| Mez | VM seems to work with the locked screen | 11:28 |
| brainwash | Mez: your bug report is still not visible to all people (private) | 11:29 |
| brainwash | the log file contains some error messages | 11:31 |
| brainwash | in any case, if it's really a bug, please forward it upstream -> https://github.com/the-cavalry/light-locker | 11:33 |
| brainwash | Unit193: maybe, test it and you will know | 11:39 |
| brainwash | Unit193: I use chromium with pepperflash to view flash content, so I cannot tell | 11:40 |
| Mez | brainwash: I've kinda tracked it down, so that post is public now | 11:58 |
| knome | lderan, hullo | 12:06 |
| knome | people, check your work item statuses in blueprints so they are uptodate | 12:07 |
| brainwash | Mez: great :) and don't forget to file the upstream report | 12:11 |
| bluesabre | knome: ofc | 12:57 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: will have the new light-locker-settings released and uploaded tonight, so you can drop from the seed after that point | 12:57 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: if you get a chance, can you also take a look at lightdm-gtk-greeter to see if there is anything else we want to merge/add for 2.0? | 12:58 |
| bluesabre | elfy: would lightdm-gtk-greeter testing fit in before systemd? | 12:59 |
| elfy | bluesabre: don't see why not if we're missing A2 | 13:12 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i guess we'd have to take a look at all those branches pending for merge against the greeter... | 13:17 |
| elfy | bluesabre: just so you're aware - nothing is now planned until w/c 16Feb | 13:35 |
| brainwash | ali1234: can you reproduce bug 1379176 in 14.10 or 15.04 (ideally with a new user or clean profile)? | 15:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1379176 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) ""Clear" button has no effect in Settings > Window Manager > Keyboard tab" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379176 | 15:15 |
| ali1234 | no | 15:18 |
| brainwash | thanks for testing it :) | 15:19 |
| knome | elfy, i'll drop the qa process stuff in the wiki today (within the next hours) now that i've cleaned up the proessses page | 18:11 |
| pleia2 | sorry for not doing the QA goodies blog post draft yet, came down with the flu on friday and just now starting to be less zombie today | 18:13 |
| elfy | sort the health out first :) | 18:15 |
| elfy | that's been hanging about since the middle of the last cycle another week isn't going to make a lot of difference | 18:15 |
| elfy | or week(s) :) | 18:15 |
| knome | pleia2, does that mean i can poke you about more things too? :P | 18:19 |
| knome | time to work on $paid_work for a while now | 18:20 |
| knome | but brb | 18:20 |
| pleia2 | knome: that means I'm now buried in work I didn't do for the next four days and won't be able to add new work for a week or so ;) | 18:21 |
| knome | awwh :( | 18:22 |
| knome | pleia2, tell hp they made me work a lot on the flyer printing because linux printing is weird and that i would like you to get compensation for that as paid hours used to contribute to xubuntu | 18:23 |
| pleia2 | I use a Brother printer | 18:28 |
| knome | pleia2, i said they made *me* to work a lot... ;) | 18:29 |
| pleia2 | heh :) | 18:29 |
| knome | i remember back then when brother was publicly considered the "laser printer for people who can't afford a laser printer" | 18:29 |
| knome | at least the people who i knew thoght that.. | 18:30 |
| knome | including my father :P | 18:30 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Wonderful, thanks. | 20:03 |
| ochosi | evening all | 20:53 |
| * dkessel spreads brother printers everywhere he installs ubuntu in the last years | 21:07 | |
| ochosi | feel free to stop by at my place, i could really use a printer | 21:09 |
| brainwash | ochosi: want to take a look at some log files and comments (recently added)? bug 1307545 | 21:12 |
| ubottu | bug 1307545 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Power Manager settings are ignored when closing laptop lid" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1307545 | 21:12 |
| dkessel | you can get a printer only model for less than 80€ | 21:12 |
| ochosi | brainwash: gah, not that again | 21:13 |
| brainwash | ochosi: I know, but it's affecting many users, so maybe we can somehow solve the mystery | 21:13 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Blame upower or systemd, that's always the in thing. | 21:16 |
| ochosi | unfortunately it's mostly true | 21:16 |
| brainwash | or find a way to get the correct log files | 21:16 |
| brainwash | sadly, people blame the power manager for not being 100% compatible | 21:17 |
| ochosi | for some reason the power manager says a few times that Action=org.freedesktop.upower.suspend is authorized=FALSE | 21:19 |
| ochosi | for #19 it's obvious | 21:20 |
| ochosi | the inhibit config doesn't include the lid-switch | 21:20 |
| ochosi | it should be | 21:20 |
| ochosi | Inhibiting systemd sleep: handle-power-key:handle-suspend-key:handle-hibernate-key:handle-lid-switch | 21:20 |
| ochosi | but it is set to | 21:20 |
| ochosi | Inhibiting systemd sleep: handle-power-key:handle-suspend-key:handle-hibernate-key | 21:20 |
| ochosi | for b3nmore everything seems to work, so not sure i get why he's posting there | 21:21 |
| ochosi | and yeah, his config reflects that | 21:21 |
| brainwash | ah, so the logind-handle-lid-switch settings is wrong? | 21:21 |
| brainwash | in the first case | 21:21 |
| ochosi | my guess is that this is a simple update problem with old settings being kept | 21:21 |
| ochosi | hence logind not being inhibited correctly | 21:21 |
| ochosi | yeah, i would say so | 21:22 |
| ochosi | but this is not a setting transparent to the user, so resetting the config should add the handle-lid-switch | 21:22 |
| ochosi | frankly, i gave up on following that mess when it was decided to "invert the logic/naming" | 21:23 |
| brainwash | yeah xD TRUE or FALSE.. what the heck is going on here | 21:24 |
| brainwash | both options seem to have drawbacks | 21:24 |
| ochosi | i guess logind-handle-lid-switch should be "false" | 21:24 |
| ochosi | which options? | 21:24 |
| brainwash | true or false | 21:25 |
| ochosi | why? | 21:25 |
| ochosi | you mean because of the black screen bug? | 21:25 |
| brainwash | yes, it's a mess | 21:25 |
| ochosi | i don't think that's a problem, iirc we fixed that | 21:25 |
| ochosi | it just gives you control over logind but doesn't really inhibit it | 21:26 |
| ochosi | so if you set it to suspend on lid close it just let's logind handle the whole thing | 21:26 |
| brainwash | the last comment is confusing too | 21:26 |
| ochosi | if you set it to lock or blank, it inhibits logind | 21:26 |
| ochosi | so no downside | 21:26 |
| ochosi | and the setting should be applied by xfpm itself in the background, depending on your other settings | 21:26 |
| ochosi | so in b3nmore's case, logind doesn't handle the lid because he's just switching off the screen on lid-close | 21:27 |
| ochosi | so logind-handle-lid-switch=false | 21:27 |
| ochosi | (actually that *does* make sense) | 21:28 |
| ochosi | f-pel has some odd setup, not sure why his output says that logind handles the lid | 21:28 |
| ochosi | my guess is he only set "switch off screen" on battery, but has ac plugged in | 21:29 |
| ochosi | something like that | 21:29 |
| ochosi | or his config is still old and he didn't follow your instructions or managed to screw that step up | 21:29 |
| ochosi | so, all clear? :) | 21:29 |
| ochosi | well i might have to pastebin all i said for brainwash... | 21:35 |
| ochosi | what a mess | 21:40 |
| Unit193 | Slightly, but you did see the global, no? | 21:41 |
| brainwash | ochosi: b3nmore says that FALSE -> black screen bug, TRUE -> pm settings ignored | 21:41 |
| brainwash | in utopic | 21:41 |
| brainwash | for logind-handle-lid-switch | 21:41 |
| brainwash | and FALSE is the default value | 21:42 |
| ochosi | as i said, the power manager should change that value depending on your config | 21:42 |
| brainwash | depending on the lid close action | 21:43 |
| ochosi | yeah | 21:44 |
| brainwash | so, the bottom line is that his black screen bug is has a different cause | 21:45 |
| brainwash | -is | 21:45 |
| ochosi | if logind handles the suspend-lid-action, then the black screen bug is not the one we fixed | 21:46 |
| ochosi | then yeah, he's seeing something else | 21:46 |
| ochosi | for instance, i consistently get that bug with the nouveau driver | 21:46 |
| ochosi | with nvidia, everything is fine | 21:46 |
| ochosi | actually i don't even get to the greeter anymore if i set lock on suspend to true | 21:46 |
| brainwash | uhm, that's bad | 21:48 |
| brainwash | hopefully this whole thing can be fixed before 16.04 :) | 21:51 |
| ochosi | i dunno, i'm not actively pursuing this anymore | 21:52 |
| ochosi | it's working for most people and we'll deactivate lock on suspend by default | 21:53 |
| ochosi | as far as i can see, i've done all i can | 21:53 |
| brainwash | ochosi: right, I'll try to close this report. the new logs and comments just confirmed that the default settings (if applied) work fine | 22:02 |
| ochosi | brainwash: yes, that's how i read it | 22:03 |
| ochosi | thing is, people will always obsess with this bug in some ways | 22:03 |
| ochosi | just as there are 1000 bugreports on suspend not working nicely on linux in general | 22:03 |
| ochosi | the only problem we have is that people think it's our fault when it isn't | 22:04 |
| knome | hey ochosi | 22:05 |
| ochosi | hey knome | 22:05 |
| ochosi | and wb | 22:05 |
| knome | time for a PM? | 22:05 |
| ochosi | yup | 22:07 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: not sure what/who is at fault, but the spinner in catfish's statusbar is broken in Gtk3.14 (with all themes, incl. Ambiance and Adwaita) | 23:25 |
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