[08:58] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:10] <lordievader> BluesKaj: As 14.10 does not have sysd, I continue here: sounds like your kernel doesn't have cgroup support.
[13:25] <BluesKaj> lordievader, an upgrade must have installed systemd, because I sure didn't or my memory is failing me .. it' shows as installed in muon
[13:30] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Yes, 15.04 has systemd capability
[13:30] <BluesKaj> lordievader, I'm talking about 14.10 on this old desktop
[13:31] <lordievader> Hmm, I thought you where on 15.04, don't think 14.10 supports systemd.
[13:33] <BluesKaj> then why is it installed on 14.10 and if I try to remove or purge, it will take most of kde with it
[13:34] <lordievader> Let's move this back to #kubuntu, as I said, I thought you were on 15.04.
[14:59] <BluesKaj_> what's the archive/repos for the 3.18 kernel in vivid?  15.04 is hung up on not finding the archive for the 3.18 kernel
[14:59] <lordievader> !info linux-image-generic
[15:00] <k1l> kernels are in main
[15:06] <BluesKaj_> odd, main is listed, but apt isn't seeing it
[15:06] <k1l> o_O
[15:35] <BluesKaj_> !linux-headers
[15:35] <BluesKaj_> !linux-kernel
[15:42] <BluesKaj_> !info linux-image
[15:43] <BluesKaj_> !info linux-image-generic
[16:09] <lordievader> BluesKaj: You do have a kernel installed, right?
[18:55] <not_roasted> hi
[18:56] <not_roasted> is it acceptable to ask unity 8 oriented questions here or is there another channell for that
[18:58] <bubbasaures> not_roasted, 15.04 related is the channel, not an area I know is all, hope that helps. unity 8 is part of the development.
[18:58] <not_roasted> bubbasaures: what I'm looking for is kind of simple. I just want to spin up the latest unity 8 to just check things out. I wasn't sure if that means installing 15.04 or if there's a specific ISO anymore (I can't seem to find ubuntu next ISO??)
[19:00] <bubbasaures> not_roasted, I believe not sure unity 8 can be installed even in supported like 14.10, 15.04 has to be installed I think, not sure of a specific iso, but you could run one live and install unity 8.
[19:00] <bubbasaures> not_roasted, I'm not your best help in this, I wish I knew more. ;)
[19:00] <not_roasted> yeah I'm fine with 15.04. Whatever is most logical to check out the latest unity 8 builds. It's a test machine so I can destroy it without harm.
[19:01] <bubbasaures> excellent that is the way to run
[19:01] <not_roasted> I tried 15.04 and installed unity 8 about two weeks ago, but it wouldn't even open. I got to wondering if what I was doing was *the* way to check out unity 8 and it just needs more work or if I needed a different ISO of some sort.
[19:02] <not_roasted> unity 7 is wearing on me in a few areas so I just wanted to check if what the potential "light at the end of the tunnel" would bring. :P
[19:03] <bubbasaures> would be nice to know I suppose
[20:13] <retroispresto> Hey~
[22:40] <schultza> How do I know if my system is running ubuntu+1 ?
[22:40] <elfy> ummm
[22:40] <k1l_> schultza: "lsb_release -d"
[22:41] <schultza> 14.10
[22:41] <schultza> so my 'sudo do-relase-upgrade -d' didnt work?
[22:41] <k1l_> what sources are in "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"?
[22:42] <schultza> Here. <http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752475/>
[22:42] <elfy> that's utopic
[22:42] <schultza> Do I need to run that command again?
[22:43] <schultza> to get to ubuntu+1 ?
[22:43] <k1l_> schultza: ok, that is 15.04. so there is just no updated lsb package yet in 15.04
[22:43] <k1l_> schultza: a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" makes sure you got all new packages
[22:45] <schultza> 22 more upgrades...
[23:02] <elfy> schultza: if there's a kernel upgrade to  3.18.0-9 I'd say you're on the way
[23:02] <schultza> That cleared out of my buffer. I'm seeing something else here... hang one min.
[23:04] <schultza> This came across as a little odd. <http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752574/> I updated and did the dist-upgrade again, and it shows the same message: libinput0 needs to be autoremoved.
[23:05] <schultza> and apparently I dont see that kernel in my /boot area.
[23:11] <schultza> oh... maybe i had to do it again. i WAS on 14.04 the first time i did the 'do-release-upgrade -d' command.
[23:11] <k1l_> schultza: :/
[23:11] <schultza> I think I will do that tomorrow. Thanks.
[23:11] <k1l_> you need the -d trigger to get from 14.10 to 15.04.
[23:13] <k1l_> sorry i miss interpreted your pastebin. it says utopic so you are on 14.10. you of course need the do-release-upgrade -d     to get to 15.04 now
[23:13] <schultza> i did from the 14.04
[23:13] <k1l_> there is no upgrade from 14.04 to 15.05.
[23:14] <schultza> so it stopped in 14.10.. now i cant do it again... something about a network error
[23:14] <k1l_> you need the step with 14.04 - 14.10 to 15.04
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[23:14] <k1l_> there is no extra repo for 15.04 so far. that should not be a problem
[23:15] <schultza> but it stopped my do-release-update
[23:17] <schultza> Do I need to disable Extras?
[23:18] <elfy> yes
[23:18] <elfy> it's just fail
[23:19] <elfy> really annoying - there's talk of ditching that extras repo now thankfully
[23:19] <k1l_> well, its a alpha
[23:19] <k1l_> if you want fully working stable stuff use the released versions :)
[23:20] <k1l_> most PPAs will not work anyway, too
[23:22] <schultza> Yes, those PPAs are not building against the current vivid code anyways, so I know why those are failing.
[23:23] <schultza> Guess I should run vivid in a VM or on an older computer.
[23:31] <elfy> what I tend to do with ppas is edit them - and change the source from 'dev' to released version then see what happens
[23:32] <elfy> you are testing - test some 'guy's' ppa and let them know