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lordievaderGood morning.08:58
BluesKajHiyas all11:12
lordievaderBluesKaj: As 14.10 does not have sysd, I continue here: sounds like your kernel doesn't have cgroup support.13:10
BluesKajlordievader, an upgrade must have installed systemd, because I sure didn't or my memory is failing me .. it' shows as installed in muon13:25
lordievaderBluesKaj: Yes, 15.04 has systemd capability13:30
BluesKajlordievader, I'm talking about 14.10 on this old desktop13:30
lordievaderHmm, I thought you where on 15.04, don't think 14.10 supports systemd.13:31
BluesKajthen why is it installed on 14.10 and if I try to remove or purge, it will take most of kde with it13:33
lordievaderLet's move this back to #kubuntu, as I said, I thought you were on 15.04.13:34
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BluesKaj_what's the archive/repos for the 3.18 kernel in vivid?  15.04 is hung up on not finding the archive for the 3.18 kernel14:59
lordievader!info linux-image-generic14:59
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.18.0.9.9 (vivid), package size 2 kB, installed size 27 kB14:59
k1lkernels are in main15:00
BluesKaj_odd, main is listed, but apt isn't seeing it15:06
k1lo_O15:06
BluesKaj_!linux-headers15:35
BluesKaj_!linux-kernel15:35
BluesKaj_!info linux-image15:42
ubottuPackage linux-image does not exist in vivid15:42
BluesKaj_!info linux-image-generic15:43
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.18.0.9.9 (vivid), package size 2 kB, installed size 27 kB15:43
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lordievaderBluesKaj: You do have a kernel installed, right?16:09
not_roastedhi18:55
not_roastedis it acceptable to ask unity 8 oriented questions here or is there another channell for that18:56
bubbasauresnot_roasted, 15.04 related is the channel, not an area I know is all, hope that helps. unity 8 is part of the development.18:58
not_roastedbubbasaures: what I'm looking for is kind of simple. I just want to spin up the latest unity 8 to just check things out. I wasn't sure if that means installing 15.04 or if there's a specific ISO anymore (I can't seem to find ubuntu next ISO??)18:58
bubbasauresnot_roasted, I believe not sure unity 8 can be installed even in supported like 14.10, 15.04 has to be installed I think, not sure of a specific iso, but you could run one live and install unity 8.19:00
bubbasauresnot_roasted, I'm not your best help in this, I wish I knew more. ;)19:00
not_roastedyeah I'm fine with 15.04. Whatever is most logical to check out the latest unity 8 builds. It's a test machine so I can destroy it without harm.19:00
bubbasauresexcellent that is the way to run19:01
not_roastedI tried 15.04 and installed unity 8 about two weeks ago, but it wouldn't even open. I got to wondering if what I was doing was *the* way to check out unity 8 and it just needs more work or if I needed a different ISO of some sort.19:01
not_roastedunity 7 is wearing on me in a few areas so I just wanted to check if what the potential "light at the end of the tunnel" would bring. :P19:02
bubbasaureswould be nice to know I suppose19:03
retroisprestoHey~20:13
schultzaHow do I know if my system is running ubuntu+1 ?22:40
elfyummm22:40
k1l_schultza: "lsb_release -d"22:40
schultza14.1022:41
schultzaso my 'sudo do-relase-upgrade -d' didnt work?22:41
k1l_what sources are in "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"?22:41
schultzaHere. <http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752475/>22:42
elfythat's utopic22:42
schultzaDo I need to run that command again?22:42
schultzato get to ubuntu+1 ?22:43
k1l_schultza: ok, that is 15.04. so there is just no updated lsb package yet in 15.0422:43
k1l_schultza: a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" makes sure you got all new packages22:43
schultza22 more upgrades...22:45
elfyschultza: if there's a kernel upgrade to  3.18.0-9 I'd say you're on the way23:02
schultzaThat cleared out of my buffer. I'm seeing something else here... hang one min.23:02
schultzaThis came across as a little odd. <http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752574/> I updated and did the dist-upgrade again, and it shows the same message: libinput0 needs to be autoremoved.23:04
schultzaand apparently I dont see that kernel in my /boot area.23:05
schultzaoh... maybe i had to do it again. i WAS on 14.04 the first time i did the 'do-release-upgrade -d' command.23:11
k1l_schultza: :/23:11
schultzaI think I will do that tomorrow. Thanks.23:11
k1l_you need the -d trigger to get from 14.10 to 15.04.23:11
k1l_sorry i miss interpreted your pastebin. it says utopic so you are on 14.10. you of course need the do-release-upgrade -d     to get to 15.04 now23:13
schultzai did from the 14.0423:13
k1l_there is no upgrade from 14.04 to 15.05.23:13
schultzaso it stopped in 14.10.. now i cant do it again... something about a network error23:14
k1l_you need the step with 14.04 - 14.10 to 15.0423:14
schultza<http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752621/>23:14
k1l_there is no extra repo for 15.04 so far. that should not be a problem23:14
schultzabut it stopped my do-release-update23:15
schultzaDo I need to disable Extras?23:17
elfyyes23:18
elfyit's just fail23:18
elfyreally annoying - there's talk of ditching that extras repo now thankfully23:19
k1l_well, its a alpha23:19
k1l_if you want fully working stable stuff use the released versions :)23:19
k1l_most PPAs will not work anyway, too23:20
schultzaYes, those PPAs are not building against the current vivid code anyways, so I know why those are failing.23:22
schultzaGuess I should run vivid in a VM or on an older computer.23:23
elfywhat I tend to do with ppas is edit them - and change the source from 'dev' to released version then see what happens23:31
elfyyou are testing - test some 'guy's' ppa and let them know23:32

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