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TheMusoI'm wanting to add some debug output to unity 7. Where is the best place I should direct my debug output to such that it is picked up in a log file somewhere?00:00
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TheMusoHrm ok, think I found what I need.00:32
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dufluWow. Almost 200 new duplicates to a single bug in one night. Can we fix it now? :)02:37
TheMusoduflu: What bug?02:40
dufluTheMuse: Only the hottest bug in town: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates/+bug/126825702:40
ubot5Launchpad bug 1268257 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates (Ubuntu) "nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"" [High,Triaged]02:40
sarnoldduflu: I've wondered before, is the problem actually related to the warnings about signed vs unsigned integer expressions? or is that just noise?02:43
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TheMusoOh wow.02:46
duflusarnold: Don't know. With this many duplicates its almost infeasible to mark them all as such.02:46
sarnoldduflu: indeed, I see the ones that were filed as private security problems and dup the ones that are easy/obvious, but .. wow :)02:47
duflupitti: Morning...(?)02:57
dufluhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates/+bug/126825703:16
ubot5Launchpad bug 1268257 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates (Ubuntu) "nvidia-331-updates 331.38-0ubuntu3: nvidia-331-updates kernel module failed to build, with only error: "objdump: '... .tmp_nv.o': No such file"" [High,Triaged]03:16
dufluEnough said.03:16
sarnold"This bug affects 2139 people"03:17
sarnoldzounds03:17
pittiduflu: that sounds like somethign for tseliot06:56
pittiGOod morning06:56
duflupitty: Good morning. Yeah he's not doing much on it. I've been asking him for months06:56
dufluOr rather I think he expected Nvidia to fix it. Not sure06:56
dufluIt's a year old now. And has been the hottest bug in the Ubuntu project for over a month too06:57
dufluI hoped to work on it over Xmas, but didn't find enough time06:58
didrocksmorning07:01
pittiduflu: yes, we can avoid filing even more dupes, I'll write an apport pattern for it07:01
pittibonjour didrocks07:01
didrocksgood morning pitti, how are you?07:02
duflupitti: Cool, thanks. I don't need a fix, just more automation07:02
pittididrocks: quite ok, thanks; and you?07:06
didrockspitti: trapped as can't do any exercise safely for some period of time, otherwise good07:06
pittididrocks: I symphatize; out of the blue my foot started hurting like mad last night, I can hardly walk; NFC yet :/07:07
* pitti files another bug against lp:human/body07:07
sarnoldmorning pitti; "can hardly walk" reminded me when I had this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantar_fasciitis07:09
pittihey sarnold, how are you?07:10
didrockspitti: urgh, you should see the doctor I guess :/07:10
sarnoldpitti: well, thanks, just trying to finish this update tonight :)07:10
pittididrocks: yeah, I suppose07:12
willcookemorning09:00
didrockshey willcooke09:01
willcookeLaney, what's the tea status?09:01
Laneyhey09:04
Laneywillcooke: we picked up a bag from Lee Rosy's to keep us going for now09:04
Laney999 were understanding and didn't mind at all delivering it09:05
willcooke:)09:05
willcooke*that* is why we pay taxes09:05
willcooke@mailing list post about Evolution09:06
meetingologywillcooke: Error: "mailing" is not a valid command.09:06
willcookemeh09:06
willcookeDo we have an Evolution maintainer on the team?09:06
didrockshello Laney09:08
didrockslast who touched is Laney09:09
* didrocks got that off his plate 4 years ago \o/09:09
willcookehow are things under that bus Laney?09:09
willcooke;)09:09
didrockshe can't even use the "I don't have any tea" card today! ah :)09:10
willcookeI'm wondering why this bogo filter is disabled at compile time, I expect there is a very good reason09:10
Laneybefore my time I think there was some kind of evalution which came up with this recommendation09:12
willcookeack09:12
didrocksbug #124736609:13
ubot5bug 1247366 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution is missing bogofilter integration" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124736609:13
didrocksseems it's sine 13.10?09:13
didrockssince*09:13
Laney  * debian/control: flip the alternative Recommends for spamassassin and09:13
Laney    bogofilter to prefer spamassassin, since bogofilter got demoted.09:13
Laney -- Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre <mathieu-tl@ubuntu.com>  Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:23:53 -040009:13
willcookewhat does demoted mean in this context?  That it's gone end of life?09:14
didrocksyep09:14
Laneyto universe09:14
didrockswillcooke: going from main to universe09:14
didrocksso not supported09:14
willcookegotya09:14
didrockshum, no comment from the demotion?09:14
didrocksLaney: do you see anything on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bogofilter/+publishinghistory ?09:15
didrockson Oneiric, I see nothing attached to 2011-08-19 09:03:54 CEST09:15
Laneyyou don't get comments when doing that09:15
didrocksyou can provide some comments09:15
didrocksI thought this was required as per process09:16
didrocksmaybe it's just launchpad not reflecting it09:16
didrockssorry no, it's only on removal09:16
ochosilarsu: does the gtk3 spinner from the theme work anywhere for you? e.g. in system-config-printers when searching for a new one, there is a spinner in the left bottom. with Ambiance and Greybird, the first frame is stuck there, Adwaita just displays nothing at all09:20
ochosilarsu: so i was wondering whether that was somehow dropped upstream..?09:20
larsuyes, it's broken09:21
larsuworks in adwaita09:21
larsunot sure what's going on, it's on my list09:21
ochosiah ok09:22
ochosiif you figure it out, lemme know! ;)09:22
ochosistrange though that it works for you in adwaita, there was just a blank spot for me09:22
ochosior did you also use the adwaita icons?09:23
larsuno09:23
ochosiok09:23
Laneydidrocks: mterry is a great guy and acked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adwaita-icon-theme/+bug/1410174 - could you promote it for me pretty please?09:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 1410174 in adwaita-icon-theme (Ubuntu) "[MIR] adwaita-icon-theme" [Undecided,Fix committed]09:28
didrocksLaney: I saw that, so just closed the tab09:29
didrocksLaney: ok, promoting ;)09:30
Laney09:30
* Laney stares at yelp09:30
Laneyy u segfault09:30
didrocksis there that much changes in yelp? or is it due to new gtk/glib?09:31
* larsu can reproduce. uh oh.09:31
Laneyyelp itself didn't change09:31
Laneydisturbing09:31
didrocksyeah, can reproduce as well09:31
didrocksLaney: done09:32
Laneythanks!09:32
didrocksyw :)09:33
didrocksok, fsck now just need plymouth integration09:33
didrocksLaney: oh btw, did you know that since wheezy, new partitions created with mkfs.ext4 doesn't set the counter to be fsck after X mounts?09:33
* didrocks wonders about the rationale09:33
LaneyI don't have any idea, sorry09:34
LaneyI'd find the package which controls that and read its changelog / mail the maintainer09:34
Laneydid we inherit that in ubuntu?09:34
didrocksLaney: unsure if we inherited that, I didn't try yet09:34
willcookeLaney, thank you for replying to that email09:35
didrocksLaney: yeah, tried to check e2fsprogs's changelog…09:35
Laneyno worries09:35
didrockswas just curious if you heard about it, I read that on a systemd bug about the lack of fsck integration09:36
ochosiLaney: so will gnome-icon-theme be renamed/replaced by adwaita-icon-theme for 15.04? (just so i know what inherits to set in xubuntu's icon theme)09:38
Laneydidrocks: http://git.whamcloud.com/?p=tools/e2fsprogs.git;a=commit;h=3daf592646b668133079e2200c1e776085f2ffaf ?09:38
Laneyochosi: I think we'll replicate the split for Ubuntu and replace the gnome one there, but I'm not going to take it away or anything09:39
didrocksLaney: interesting, seems the commit message was way better than the changelog to find it :)09:40
ochosiLaney: ok, good to know. for now i guess i'll just add "adwaita, gnome, hicolor" to our inherits to be save09:40
didrocksLaney: thanks for looking! It makes sense09:40
ochosierr, s/save/safe/09:40
didrockspitti: FYI, Laney pointed at http://git.whamcloud.com/?p=tools/e2fsprogs.git;a=commit;h=3daf592646b668133079e2200c1e776085f2ffaf for the fsck interval disablement that we discussed about09:41
pittididrocks: oh, good to know; thanks09:43
pittididrocks: that still means that calling e2fstune should work to trigger the fsck at boot, right?09:43
pittithe parameters just default to "off"09:43
didrockspitti: indeed!09:45
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Laneyha, there's the yelp issue11:14
Laneymissing chain up11:14
Laneywonder why that worked on utopic11:16
Laneyah11:58
Laneygtk moved stuff from constructor to constructed11:58
didrockshum, that's a behavior breakage :/11:59
didrocksthat's why we have this yelp segfault now?11:59
Laneyyelp should have chained up12:00
Laneyhttps://developer.gnome.org/gobject/stable/gobject-The-Base-Object-Type.html#GObjectClass.constructed12:01
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larsuLaney: hm, what moved?12:41
Laneyhttps://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=9c37b3de7466a22d4c784657a86c522e2a4f118a12:43
larsuoh, cool12:44
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Laneydidrocks: any idea why the adwaita-icon-theme binary package might have seemingly disappeared?15:43
didrocksLaney: will have a look after my 1o115:46
Laneyhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/amd64/adwaita-icon-theme15:46
Laneybut I don't really gain any knowledge from that15:46
Laneyother than there is no current published version15:47
mitya57charles, hi, can you please look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/indicator-session/multiple-names-in-current-desktop/+merge/243234 ?15:48
charlesmitya57, sure15:48
mitya57thanks15:49
charlesmitya57, this has been sitting here awhile... thanks for the ping :) :)15:49
seb128Laney, wdym disapparead?15:51
seb128disappeared even15:51
LaneyI mean this:15:52
LaneyE: Package 'adwaita-icon-theme' has no installation candidate15:52
seb128Laney, seems like a launchpad bug, I would ask on #ubuntu-devel to cjwatson15:54
seb128we had binaries eaten in the past when things were promoted twice, dunno if that's what happened there15:56
LaneyI asked in #launchpad15:57
Laneyseem to recall some trick where you can copy it back or something15:57
didrocksyeah, it's the promoted it twice bug16:06
Laneycjwatson says he copied it back, so let's see16:06
didrocksok, good, keep me posted16:07
Sweet5harkseb128:  could you upload libcmis from debian experimental to vivid? http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libc/libcmis/libcmis_0.5.0-1.dsc16:48
Sweet5harkseb128: I just testbuild it locally and it looks fine (on amd64 at least).16:51
mitya57charles, thanks for approving it. Can I go ahead and land it, or do you have other pending indicator-session changes?16:51
seb128Sweet5hark, sync?16:53
Sweet5harkseb128: well, upload (w/o modification).16:55
charlesmitya57, I think tedg and I are going to do some housekeeping wrt pending MPs and releases, I'll make sure this one picked up in that task17:01
seb128Sweet5hark, that's a sync no? copy from the debian source?17:01
mitya57charles, ok, no problem17:06
Sweet5harkseb128: pretty much -- I just was not sure if "sync" also covers stuff from experimental ;)17:08
seb128Sweet5hark, it does ;-)17:16
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desrti'm searching my brain (and google) for a pair of words that i can't seem to remember22:08
desrtone of them is the word for the part of a work that describes the details about how the work was printed: what type of paper was used, what the font face was, etc.22:08
desrtanother of them is the word for the origin information of a particular work.  i've seen this particular word used a couple of times on websites of late that want to tell you about who is responsible for publishing them.22:09
desrtthe first word may be 'colophon'22:17
sarnolddesrt: "Impressum"?22:41
desrtsarnold: i think that's precisely what i was looking for.  thanks.22:42

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