[00:00] <TheMuso> I'm wanting to add some debug output to unity 7. Where is the best place I should direct my debug output to such that it is picked up in a log file somewhere?
[00:32] <TheMuso> Hrm ok, think I found what I need.
[02:37] <duflu> Wow. Almost 200 new duplicates to a single bug in one night. Can we fix it now? :)
[02:40] <TheMuso> duflu: What bug?
[02:40] <duflu> TheMuse: Only the hottest bug in town: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates/+bug/1268257
[02:43] <sarnold> duflu: I've wondered before, is the problem actually related to the warnings about signed vs unsigned integer expressions? or is that just noise?
[02:46] <TheMuso> Oh wow.
[02:46] <duflu> sarnold: Don't know. With this many duplicates its almost infeasible to mark them all as such.
[02:47] <sarnold> duflu: indeed, I see the ones that were filed as private security problems and dup the ones that are easy/obvious, but .. wow :)
[02:57] <duflu> pitti: Morning...(?)
[03:16] <duflu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates/+bug/1268257
[03:16] <duflu> Enough said.
[03:17] <sarnold> "This bug affects 2139 people"
[03:17] <sarnold> zounds
[06:56] <pitti> duflu: that sounds like somethign for tseliot
[06:56] <pitti> GOod morning
[06:56] <duflu> pitty: Good morning. Yeah he's not doing much on it. I've been asking him for months
[06:56] <duflu> Or rather I think he expected Nvidia to fix it. Not sure
[06:57] <duflu> It's a year old now. And has been the hottest bug in the Ubuntu project for over a month too
[06:58] <duflu> I hoped to work on it over Xmas, but didn't find enough time
[07:01] <didrocks> morning
[07:01] <pitti> duflu: yes, we can avoid filing even more dupes, I'll write an apport pattern for it
[07:01] <pitti> bonjour didrocks
[07:02] <didrocks> good morning pitti, how are you?
[07:02] <duflu> pitti: Cool, thanks. I don't need a fix, just more automation
[07:06] <pitti> didrocks: quite ok, thanks; and you?
[07:06] <didrocks> pitti: trapped as can't do any exercise safely for some period of time, otherwise good
[07:07] <pitti> didrocks: I symphatize; out of the blue my foot started hurting like mad last night, I can hardly walk; NFC yet :/
[07:07]  * pitti files another bug against lp:human/body
[07:09] <sarnold> morning pitti; "can hardly walk" reminded me when I had this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantar_fasciitis
[07:10] <pitti> hey sarnold, how are you?
[07:10] <didrocks> pitti: urgh, you should see the doctor I guess :/
[07:10] <sarnold> pitti: well, thanks, just trying to finish this update tonight :)
[07:12] <pitti> didrocks: yeah, I suppose
[09:00] <willcooke> morning
[09:01] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[09:01] <willcooke> Laney, what's the tea status?
[09:04] <Laney> hey
[09:04] <Laney> willcooke: we picked up a bag from Lee Rosy's to keep us going for now
[09:05] <Laney> 999 were understanding and didn't mind at all delivering it
[09:05] <willcooke> :)
[09:05] <willcooke> *that* is why we pay taxes
[09:06] <willcooke> @mailing list post about Evolution
[09:06] <meetingology> willcooke: Error: "mailing" is not a valid command.
[09:06] <willcooke> meh
[09:06] <willcooke> Do we have an Evolution maintainer on the team?
[09:08] <didrocks> hello Laney
[09:09] <didrocks> last who touched is Laney
[09:09]  * didrocks got that off his plate 4 years ago \o/
[09:09] <willcooke> how are things under that bus Laney?
[09:09] <willcooke> ;)
[09:10] <didrocks> he can't even use the "I don't have any tea" card today! ah :)
[09:10] <willcooke> I'm wondering why this bogo filter is disabled at compile time, I expect there is a very good reason
[09:12] <Laney> before my time I think there was some kind of evalution which came up with this recommendation
[09:12] <willcooke> ack
[09:13] <didrocks> bug #1247366
[09:13] <didrocks> seems it's sine 13.10?
[09:13] <didrocks> since*
[09:13] <Laney>   * debian/control: flip the alternative Recommends for spamassassin and
[09:13] <Laney>     bogofilter to prefer spamassassin, since bogofilter got demoted.
[09:13] <Laney>  -- Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre <mathieu-tl@ubuntu.com>  Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:23:53 -0400
[09:14] <willcooke> what does demoted mean in this context?  That it's gone end of life?
[09:14] <didrocks> yep
[09:14] <Laney> to universe
[09:14] <didrocks> willcooke: going from main to universe
[09:14] <didrocks> so not supported
[09:14] <willcooke> gotya
[09:14] <didrocks> hum, no comment from the demotion?
[09:15] <didrocks> Laney: do you see anything on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bogofilter/+publishinghistory ?
[09:15] <didrocks> on Oneiric, I see nothing attached to 2011-08-19 09:03:54 CEST
[09:15] <Laney> you don't get comments when doing that
[09:15] <didrocks> you can provide some comments
[09:16] <didrocks> I thought this was required as per process
[09:16] <didrocks> maybe it's just launchpad not reflecting it
[09:16] <didrocks> sorry no, it's only on removal
[09:20] <ochosi> larsu: does the gtk3 spinner from the theme work anywhere for you? e.g. in system-config-printers when searching for a new one, there is a spinner in the left bottom. with Ambiance and Greybird, the first frame is stuck there, Adwaita just displays nothing at all
[09:20] <ochosi> larsu: so i was wondering whether that was somehow dropped upstream..?
[09:21] <larsu> yes, it's broken
[09:21] <larsu> works in adwaita
[09:21] <larsu> not sure what's going on, it's on my list
[09:22] <ochosi> ah ok
[09:22] <ochosi> if you figure it out, lemme know! ;)
[09:22] <ochosi> strange though that it works for you in adwaita, there was just a blank spot for me
[09:23] <ochosi> or did you also use the adwaita icons?
[09:23] <larsu> no
[09:23] <ochosi> ok
[09:28] <Laney> didrocks: mterry is a great guy and acked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adwaita-icon-theme/+bug/1410174 - could you promote it for me pretty please?
[09:29] <didrocks> Laney: I saw that, so just closed the tab
[09:30] <didrocks> Laney: ok, promoting ;)
[09:30] <Laney> ♥
[09:30]  * Laney stares at yelp
[09:30] <Laney> y u segfault
[09:31] <didrocks> is there that much changes in yelp? or is it due to new gtk/glib?
[09:31]  * larsu can reproduce. uh oh.
[09:31] <Laney> yelp itself didn't change
[09:31] <Laney> disturbing
[09:31] <didrocks> yeah, can reproduce as well
[09:32] <didrocks> Laney: done
[09:32] <Laney> thanks!
[09:33] <didrocks> yw :)
[09:33] <didrocks> ok, fsck now just need plymouth integration
[09:33] <didrocks> Laney: oh btw, did you know that since wheezy, new partitions created with mkfs.ext4 doesn't set the counter to be fsck after X mounts?
[09:33]  * didrocks wonders about the rationale
[09:34] <Laney> I don't have any idea, sorry
[09:34] <Laney> I'd find the package which controls that and read its changelog / mail the maintainer
[09:34] <Laney> did we inherit that in ubuntu?
[09:34] <didrocks> Laney: unsure if we inherited that, I didn't try yet
[09:35] <willcooke> Laney, thank you for replying to that email
[09:35] <didrocks> Laney: yeah, tried to check e2fsprogs's changelog…
[09:35] <Laney> no worries
[09:36] <didrocks> was just curious if you heard about it, I read that on a systemd bug about the lack of fsck integration
[09:38] <ochosi> Laney: so will gnome-icon-theme be renamed/replaced by adwaita-icon-theme for 15.04? (just so i know what inherits to set in xubuntu's icon theme)
[09:38] <Laney> didrocks: http://git.whamcloud.com/?p=tools/e2fsprogs.git;a=commit;h=3daf592646b668133079e2200c1e776085f2ffaf ?
[09:39] <Laney> ochosi: I think we'll replicate the split for Ubuntu and replace the gnome one there, but I'm not going to take it away or anything
[09:40] <didrocks> Laney: interesting, seems the commit message was way better than the changelog to find it :)
[09:40] <ochosi> Laney: ok, good to know. for now i guess i'll just add "adwaita, gnome, hicolor" to our inherits to be save
[09:40] <didrocks> Laney: thanks for looking! It makes sense
[09:40] <ochosi> err, s/save/safe/
[09:41] <didrocks> pitti: FYI, Laney pointed at http://git.whamcloud.com/?p=tools/e2fsprogs.git;a=commit;h=3daf592646b668133079e2200c1e776085f2ffaf for the fsck interval disablement that we discussed about
[09:43] <pitti> didrocks: oh, good to know; thanks
[09:43] <pitti> didrocks: that still means that calling e2fstune should work to trigger the fsck at boot, right?
[09:43] <pitti> the parameters just default to "off"
[09:45] <didrocks> pitti: indeed!
[11:14] <Laney> ha, there's the yelp issue
[11:14] <Laney> missing chain up
[11:16] <Laney> wonder why that worked on utopic
[11:58] <Laney> ah
[11:58] <Laney> gtk moved stuff from constructor to constructed
[11:59] <didrocks> hum, that's a behavior breakage :/
[11:59] <didrocks> that's why we have this yelp segfault now?
[12:00] <Laney> yelp should have chained up
[12:01] <Laney> https://developer.gnome.org/gobject/stable/gobject-The-Base-Object-Type.html#GObjectClass.constructed
[12:41] <larsu> Laney: hm, what moved?
[12:43] <Laney> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=9c37b3de7466a22d4c784657a86c522e2a4f118a
[12:44] <larsu> oh, cool
[15:43] <Laney> didrocks: any idea why the adwaita-icon-theme binary package might have seemingly disappeared?
[15:46] <didrocks> Laney: will have a look after my 1o1
[15:46] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/amd64/adwaita-icon-theme
[15:46] <Laney> but I don't really gain any knowledge from that
[15:47] <Laney> other than there is no current published version
[15:48] <mitya57> charles, hi, can you please look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/indicator-session/multiple-names-in-current-desktop/+merge/243234 ?
[15:48] <charles> mitya57, sure
[15:49] <mitya57> thanks
[15:49] <charles> mitya57, this has been sitting here awhile... thanks for the ping :) :)
[15:51] <seb128> Laney, wdym disapparead?
[15:51] <seb128> disappeared even
[15:52] <Laney> I mean this:
[15:52] <Laney> E: Package 'adwaita-icon-theme' has no installation candidate
[15:54] <seb128> Laney, seems like a launchpad bug, I would ask on #ubuntu-devel to cjwatson
[15:56] <seb128> we had binaries eaten in the past when things were promoted twice, dunno if that's what happened there
[15:57] <Laney> I asked in #launchpad
[15:57] <Laney> seem to recall some trick where you can copy it back or something
[16:06] <didrocks> yeah, it's the promoted it twice bug
[16:06] <Laney> cjwatson says he copied it back, so let's see
[16:07] <didrocks> ok, good, keep me posted
[16:48] <Sweet5hark> seb128:  could you upload libcmis from debian experimental to vivid? http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libc/libcmis/libcmis_0.5.0-1.dsc
[16:51] <Sweet5hark> seb128: I just testbuild it locally and it looks fine (on amd64 at least).
[16:51] <mitya57> charles, thanks for approving it. Can I go ahead and land it, or do you have other pending indicator-session changes?
[16:53] <seb128> Sweet5hark, sync?
[16:55] <Sweet5hark> seb128: well, upload (w/o modification).
[17:01] <charles> mitya57, I think tedg and I are going to do some housekeeping wrt pending MPs and releases, I'll make sure this one picked up in that task
[17:01] <seb128> Sweet5hark, that's a sync no? copy from the debian source?
[17:06] <mitya57> charles, ok, no problem
[17:08] <Sweet5hark> seb128: pretty much -- I just was not sure if "sync" also covers stuff from experimental ;)
[17:16] <seb128> Sweet5hark, it does ;-)
[22:08] <desrt> i'm searching my brain (and google) for a pair of words that i can't seem to remember
[22:08] <desrt> one of them is the word for the part of a work that describes the details about how the work was printed: what type of paper was used, what the font face was, etc.
[22:09] <desrt> another of them is the word for the origin information of a particular work.  i've seen this particular word used a couple of times on websites of late that want to tell you about who is responsible for publishing them.
[22:17] <desrt> the first word may be 'colophon'
[22:41] <sarnold> desrt: "Impressum"?
[22:42] <desrt> sarnold: i think that's precisely what i was looking for.  thanks.