[05:10] <theblazehen> Hello..
[06:38] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:51] <Kilos> sigh power out so early in the morning
[06:51] <Kilos> morning all
[06:52] <Kilos> Maaz  bazaar-tutorial
[06:52] <Maaz> http://ubuntu-za.snyman.info/bazaar-tutorial.html
[06:54] <Kilos> so whats with whatsapp forcing you to forward a message to 10 peeps or have your account deleted?
[07:01] <Kilos> http://www.hoax-slayer.com/whatsapp-new-facebook-f-logo-hoax.shtml
[07:01] <Kilos> grrr
[07:31] <Kilos> hi mazal  bushtech  inetpro  octoquad  ThatGraemeGuy  
[07:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[07:33] <bushtech> Dag
[07:34] <mazal> Morning Kilos , ThatGraemeGuy bushtech 
[07:35] <mazal> Sjoe busy again today , users breaking everything
[07:35] <SubOracle> Morning everyone
[07:35] <gremble> Good morning
[07:36] <Kilos> ohi gremble  SubOracle  
[07:38] <mazal> Morning SubOracle , gremble 
[07:41] <octoquad> morning Kilos 
[07:45] <Kilos> theblazehen  back at school?
[08:11] <charl> good morning
[08:11] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:11]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:11] <Kilos> hi charl  
[08:13] <charl> hi Kilos 
[08:13] <charl> how are you doing
[08:13] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[08:15] <charl> good good
[08:15] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:49] <inetpro> hello Kilos
[08:49] <Kilos> hi pro SilverCode  
[08:50] <Kilos> ian coming to fetch the ssd to have it changed
[08:50] <Kilos> drove me bonkers this one did
[08:50] <charl> hi inetpro 
[08:50] <charl> Maaz: danke
[08:50] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:50] <charl> hi SilverCode 
[08:51] <charl> Kilos: what happened with the ssd?
[08:51] <Kilos> it keeps going into very slow mode
[08:51] <Kilos> like a hang
[08:52] <Kilos> and refuses to take kde alongside unity
[08:52] <Kilos> so its useless to me
[08:53] <Kilos> my drives must accept anything i throw at them
[08:54] <Kilos> maybe its not wise to use second hand ssd's
[08:56] <Kilos> sad though because it was very fast while working on this pc
[09:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> you bought a second hand SSD?
[09:29] <Kilos> yip a 256 samsung for R800
[09:30] <Kilos> only after battling did i query if it was a used one
[09:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> so when 3 people with a combined 50+ years experience in the industry strongly advised you to go with crucial you just ignored us and went the cheap route?
[09:39] <Kilos> well, i was hoping , some peeps are lucky
[09:39] <Kilos> when every cent counts one does funny things at times
[09:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> guy, we saved you from throwing away money on a cpu upgrade that would've done nothing to speed up your pc
[09:41] <Kilos> but the supplier said he will replace it with another 256 or a new 64g for the same price
[09:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> i think you are sorely missing my point
[09:41] <Kilos> no man i know you okes advised the corsair
[09:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> you come asking for advice, and a significant amount of time is taken handing out advice
[09:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> then you just ignore the advice
[09:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> so really, what is the point of spending any time in future trying to be helpful?
[09:43] <Kilos> hmm...
[09:43] <Kilos> self satisfaction
[09:44] <Kilos> being able to say "I told you so"
[09:44] <Kilos> hehe
[09:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> wow
[09:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> meh guess i'm done then
[09:44] <Kilos> no man
[09:44] <Kilos> dont be like that
[09:44] <Kilos> oh my
[09:50] <Private_User> lol
[09:50] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[09:51] <Private_User> did ThatGraemeGuy get a bit peeved here?
[09:51] <Private_User> lol
[09:52] <Kilos> yeah
[09:54] <Kilos> im always upsetting him
[09:54] <Kilos> sigh
[10:41] <Kilos> hi dude42  
[10:41] <dude42> hi Kilos 
[10:41] <dude42> how goes
[10:41] <Kilos> good ty and you
[10:41] <dude42> good thanks
[11:14] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  
[11:15] <Vince-0> haai oom
[11:42] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[11:55] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[11:58] <magespawn> quick question for the brains, i have two machines on two different networks with the same local ip address, i ssh into these machines. everytime i do i have to remove the key so that i can connect. is there a way around this? maybe have two ssh keys?
[12:28] <gremble> Can't you make the IP's static and different?
[12:29] <gremble> Or would that break too many things?
[13:01] <magespawn> gremble i would have to redo all the phones on one of the properties
[13:01] <magespawn> it is an asterisk server
[13:01] <magespawn> both
[13:05] <Kilos> inetpro  what have they made better
[13:05] <Kilos> in thub=nderbird that is
[13:05] <Kilos> thunderbird
[13:06] <Kilos> actually nm, no data to waste downloading it
[13:48] <gremble> Oh, sounds like schlept. Not the best idea then
[13:54] <magespawn> close office time, chat later all
[15:48] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:03] <magespawn> good evening
[17:36] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[17:36] <Kilos> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/116788-beware-r149-uncapped-data-sim-mtn.html
[17:52] <inetpro> hullo
[17:55] <inetpro> Kilos: 30mm
[17:58] <Symmetria> http://197.155.81.57/office2.jpg <[18:01] <Kilos> wow inetpro  we got 4mm
[18:16] <magespawn> we got some rain down here too, not sure how much though
[18:16] <magespawn> Symmetria: did not know you were in real cats too
[18:17] <charl> Symmetria: that one screen looks like a tv
[18:18] <charl> i see toilet paper present, i won't ask questions
[18:18] <Kilos> lol
[18:18] <Symmetria> charl haha quickest thing I could grab to clean up the coffee my damn cat knocked over the other day
[18:19] <Symmetria> charl, its a 4K UHD 40" 
[18:19] <Symmetria> makes for a good monitor
[18:19] <Symmetria> ;p
[18:19] <charl> no need to make excuses Symmetria every good home office needs at least one toilet paper roll or a tissue box
[18:20] <Symmetria> haha man what freaks me out is that with all the cool geeky shit in my office, the first thing people look for is tissues or toilet paper :P says a lot about whats on peoples minds 
[18:21] <charl> lol
[18:21] <charl> it's a stereotype ... :P
[18:21] <charl> especially because of all the geeky shit
[18:21] <magespawn> i saw the cat first, what does that say? the one thing out of place?
[18:22] <Kilos> lol
[18:22] <charl> let me process this... lots of monitors, a cat and toilet paper
[18:23] <charl> you can not get more geeky than that
[18:23] <charl> who needs catpix when you have a real life one
[18:23] <charl> 100% geek approved (tm) (r)
[18:23] <Symmetria> lol I have a few cats actually :P when I moved in here, there was a stray female wandering around crying that it was hungry 
[18:23] <Symmetria> so I started feeding it 
[18:23] <gremble> He did get engaged if I recall correctly...
[18:23] <Symmetria> then it had kittens :P
[18:23] <magespawn> maybe a angry birds plushie or some star wars figurines?
[18:24] <Symmetria> engaged? I got married :p
[18:24] <gremble> Oh ya
[18:24] <gremble> that
[18:24] <gremble> :P
[18:24] <gremble> Who needs catpix when you have the real thing?
[18:24] <charl> marriage is good, unless if it's to your waifu
[18:24] <Symmetria> lol wifey is asleep and grumpy at me cause I told her I'd be working most of tonight
[18:27] <charl> http://197.155.81.57/office.jpg <- microsoft outlook 2013, too familiar
[18:27] <charl> and i see a mirc there:P
[18:28] <Symmetria> heh outlook works for integrated business shit
[18:28] <charl> at work we have microsoft lync and outlook
[18:28] <Symmetria> when there is a deecent opensource mail client with the same level of integration, I might use it
[18:28] <Symmetria> ;p
[18:28] <charl> unified communications and all dat
[18:29] <charl> see a person's presence right in your mail client and can make a call with one click
[18:29] <charl> i don't use outlook though i use the web interface and i use a network voip telephone
[18:29] <charl> aastra device
[18:29] <Symmetria> heh I use an ex90 on my desk at work
[18:30] <Symmetria> (telepresence unit)
[18:30] <charl> hmmm don't know it
[18:30] <Symmetria> heh cisco telepresence office unit
[18:30] <charl> asterix ?
[18:30] <Symmetria> hell no, heh, 1080p video conferencing system
[18:30] <charl> ah nice !
[18:31] <Symmetria> built in high def cameras and all that shit 
[18:31] <Symmetria> basically the rolls royce of video conferencing
[18:31] <charl> ah some proprietary cisco system ?
[18:31] <charl> citrix also has some good stuff
[18:31] <Symmetria> I'd kill to have an ex90 at home but at 12 thousand dollars a pop....
[18:31] <charl> phew
[18:31] <Symmetria> charl you gotta see telepresence in a full TP room to understand it, there is nothing, nothing on the market that comes close
[18:32] <charl> interesting
[18:32] <Symmetria> a full TP room typically has 3 70" 1080p screens, and multiple cameras, when you talk in the room, the camera triangulates the sound
[18:32] <Symmetria> and focuses on the person talking
[18:32] <charl> nice
[18:32] <Symmetria> and the quality is such that I was sitting in a full TP room and someone on the remote side knocked on the door on the remote side
[18:32] <charl> cancels out noise in the background etc ?
[18:32] <Symmetria> and I turned to see who was coming into my TP room
[18:32] <Symmetria> cancels out noise and the sound is 3D 
[18:33] <charl> whow
[18:33] <Symmetria> so it positions the sound in the position of the person who is talking 
[18:33] <Symmetria> its a mindfuck :)
[18:33] <charl> but for that price ... you would expect it :D
[18:33] <charl> still cool though
[18:33] <Symmetria> charl heh, it uses 30mbit of bandwidth as well
[18:33] <charl> oh that's quite well optimised
[18:34] <charl> for 3x 1080p
[18:34] <Symmetria> a full and complete TP room though if you want the full setup with a total TP room with all the screens, 3D shit and everything else will run you a few hundred thousand dollars
[18:34] <magespawn> so basically unusable in most of south africa
[18:34] <Symmetria> magespawn ex90 will work, you can use an ex90 office unit at full 1080p on 5mbit bi-directional
[18:34] <Symmetria> and if you tone it down to 720p (still totally useable) you can get away with 3mbit
[18:34] <Symmetria> ;p
[18:34] <charl> yeah but that's overcompressed 1080p
[18:35] <Symmetria> charl yeah, but honestly, the quality on it is... seriously fucking amazing even at that
[18:35] <charl> well i guess if your targets are not moving then it could be
[18:35] <charl> it's different than watching a movie
[18:35] <Symmetria> the other neat thing about the ex90 is that the thing dual functions as a PC screen, and you can hit a button on the control pad and whatever was on that screen on your pc, then is presented 
[18:36] <Symmetria> so you can desktop share pretty nicely
[18:36] <charl> that's handy but none of this stuff is really very new
[18:37] <charl> google had "unified communications" almost 10 years ago in gmail with google talk
[18:37] <charl> and now microsoft is making a big scene out of it like it's something special
[18:37] <charl> that's a whole different matter than conference systems though
[20:04] <magespawn> good night all
[20:07] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:07] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight