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bobbobbinswhats the easiest way to make an iso of my ubuntu server?00:00
nobody__ undecim rebootyting will send log in a bit00:01
undecimnobody__, k00:01
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nobody__undecim where is the xorg file again00:03
IdleOne/usr/lib/xorg00:03
isifreekwhere should i put stuff that i want to run once at boot and once at shutdown/reboot?00:03
isifreekit's one thing (a screen session with irssi in it)00:04
nobody__undecim not the file i mean the log00:04
Bashing-omnobody__: /var/log/Xorg.0.log .00:06
nobody1undecim http://paste.ubuntu.com/9737440/00:08
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bubbasauresNixus, Many hard to count.00:11
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bubbasauresbobbobbins, Curious, why?00:14
undecimnobody1, Without nomodeset, the intel driver is being used.00:14
Nixusbubbasaures: what did you use after your 6 months of ubuntu?00:14
undecimnobody1, See if changing your refresh rate fixes the flicker00:15
bobbobbinsbubbasaures: so I can run it in vmware00:15
nobody1undecim how would i do that?00:15
bubbasauresNixus, 7 years ago, can't remember, found really that most are hardly any different, more are than not, it's all the linux kernel. This is offtopic though.00:16
bubbasauresare the same00:16
Bashing-omnobody1: AND " Found backlight control interface acpi_video0 (type 'firmware') for output eDP1 " . do we have lift-off ?00:16
undecimnobody1, It's in the settings somewhere. Which flavor of ubuntu are you using?00:16
nobody1undecim 14.0100:17
kpgdHello. I am having problems with my Intel 7260 wi-fi card. It was fine on previous version, but it00:17
kpgdit's very unstable on 14.04 LTS. It keeps disconnecting from the network00:17
nobody1undecim thats as far as i know on what version i got just went to the website and got 14.01 LTS00:17
undecimnobody1, Just normal Ubuntu? You should be able to type "display" in the menu search00:17
bubbasauresbobbobbins, Well you cam make custom iso's, not a iso out of a install that I know of.00:17
nobody1undecim doesnt sayanything about refresh rate00:18
bubbasauresbobbobbins, Used to be remastersys not supported anymore is all.00:18
undecimnobody1, do "xrandr | pastebinit" in a terminal00:19
undecimnobody1, It will list the refresh and resolution options available on the card00:19
nobody1undecim http://pastebin.com/SYsDgqQ000:20
undecimnobody1, It's already at the max refresh rate. That's not the issue00:21
bubbasauresbobbobbins, You can put that in a virtualbox vm though, not sure on vmware never used it.00:21
undecimnobody1, does the screen flicker before the login prompt appears? (i.e. during the boot splash)00:23
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nobody1not sure but i think so00:23
bubbasauresI see actual images for it lighter supposedly, not sure why that was not the start.00:23
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nobody1undecim cus it starts out slow at first00:23
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undecimnobody1, I don't think the intel driver will work with nomodeset at all. Is there any problem other than flickering that occurs without nomodeset?00:25
nobody1undecim not that i have encountered yet. this was the first issue even in the live trial version so i wanted to solve this before anything else00:26
undecimnobody1, What happens when you change the resolution?00:27
nobody1undecim nothing changes still flickering scrreen gets smaller thats it00:28
nobody1undecim looks like the screen tearing issue is fixed though, still unable to change the display brightness00:31
undecimnobody1, The display brightness may be a different issue00:31
checoimgdoes ubuntu 14.1 support 32 bit EFI ?00:31
undecimnobody1, try adding "acpi_backlight=vendor" to your kernel line (where nomodeset was)00:31
undecimnobody1, It's fixed a lot of backlights for me00:31
checoimgdoes ubuntu 14.10 support 32 bit EFI ?00:32
nobody1where do i paste it in the line00:32
hetiiHi :)00:32
checoimghi hetii00:32
lukblackbuonasera00:33
lukblack:)00:33
hetiiHow can i customize message that is generate to /var/run/motd.dynamic ?00:33
undecimnobody1, doesn't matter where, as long as its after the = and has a space between it and any other word00:33
Jordan_Uchecoimg: I don't think it does out of the box (in the installer media). What machine do you have with 32 bit UEFI? Does it have a 64 bit CPU?00:33
hetiiI don`t mean replace it by some static message but just customize it.00:33
nobody1so something like this : "quite splash acpi_backlight=vendor"00:34
checoimgAcer Iconia W510 Jordan00:34
nobody1undecim so something like this : "quite splash acpi_backlight=vendor"00:34
checoimg32 bit cpu00:34
Chakka32-bit efi:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support00:34
undecimnobody1, yup00:35
nobody1undecim didnt look like that did anything maybe gotta resart first00:36
undecimnobody1, Yes, restart is required00:36
undecimnobody1, Some older posts I've found suggest adding to the kernel line gfxpayload=1024x768 to fix flickering00:36
Bashing-omnobody1: -> sudo update-grub <- .00:37
nobody1undecim try it? but with 1920x1080 ?00:37
checoimgShall I just put the bootia32 file in the EFI/Boot folder ?00:37
nobody1bashing-om yea did that already00:37
checoimgI think supre grub has 32 bit fi00:37
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undecimnobody1, couldn't hurt00:38
undecimnobody1, If at some point one of the kernel options breaks your display...00:38
Bashing-omnobody1: after making the edit "quite splash acpi_backlight=vendor " ?00:38
nobody1undecim do you think 1280 or 192000:38
nobody1bashing-om yea00:38
undecimnobody1, I don't think the resolution really matters here, but I'd do 1920x1080 to match your desktop display00:39
genkiklausyea00:39
checoimgWubi works fine :/ it should be easy to just install it and then install Grub with 32 bit EFI after00:40
undecimnobody1, If a kernel option breaks your display, you can change the kernel line for the duration of one boot by holding left shift when the computer starts. select the top option and press "e", and you can edit the line. Then press Ctrl-X to boot it00:40
checoimgDoes Wubi still install form inside Windows ?00:40
undecimnobody1, That's if, for example, you can't even access the command line, because the display is misconfigured00:40
checoimgbrb00:40
undecimOr specifically, if the kernel line is misconfigured00:40
Test1Danoh00:41
nobody1undecim alright lets hope it doesnt come to that00:41
bazhangavoid wubi at all costs00:41
Test1Dan^00:41
mjayki dont know why wubi is still shipped with the 14.10 iso00:41
Test1Dantalking from this java consol00:41
genkiklaus^00:41
Test1Danso hwat itso what it do baby bo00:42
genkiklaus.00:43
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nobody1_undecim alright well it didnt work, but at least i can say for sure it starts when the ubuntu logo pops up00:44
bubbasauresTest1Dan, Give support if you can, but please keep it there.00:44
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undecimnobody1_, What about backlight?00:44
Test1Danohkay00:44
nobody1_undecim nothing in the brightness and lock system settings. buttons doesnt do anything either00:45
Test1Dan/join #linux00:45
bubbasauresTest1Dan, There is a offtopic channel, if you can prove you can make sentences and words that make any sense.00:45
Test1Dan/join #bash00:46
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checoimgback00:47
checoimgSo I cpied the file to EFI/Boot and it worked00:47
bubbasaureschecoimg, No more wubi advice it is not supported00:47
checoimgI get a grub console00:47
undecimnobody1, do "ls /sys/class/backlight | pastebinit"00:48
rwwEFI with WUBI is doubly-unsupported00:48
bubbasauresThe designer of wubi themselves say it is a try out not a install to use.00:49
bubbasauresit was*00:49
nobody1undecim dont need to paste bin this is all it says (asus-nb-wmi  intel_backlight)00:49
cliffreichis there a way to change the ugly look of ubuntu without changing the entire desktop environment? that gnome look omg00:50
cliffreichand that unity bar00:50
undecimnobody1, Is your backlight too bright or too dim?00:50
bubbasaurescliffreich, YOu installed unity-tweak?00:50
mjaykno cliffreich if you don't like the DE then use a different DE00:51
nobody1undecim too bright it drains battery like crazy00:51
undecimnobody1, Try "echo 10 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness"00:51
bubbasauresmjayk, That is not even close to true, please be accurate.00:51
mjaykbubbasaures: I am00:51
manticpixelAnyone in here use Gnome-do?00:51
cliffreichnope, i been using archlinux/gentoo right now but ubuntu is better for my needs right now as i don't want to focus on my system00:52
bubbasauresthat is fud and you know it00:52
nobody1undecim bash: /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness: Permission denied00:52
cliffreichwhat the unity tweak00:52
undecimnobody1, Try "echo 10 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness"00:52
bubbasaurescliffreich, It tweaks the unity desktop00:52
bubbasauresget the name00:52
bazhanginstall gnome-shell cliffreich , it's an alternate gnome shell to unity00:52
bubbasauresshell is nice I use it00:53
nobody1that dimmed it but flicker still happens00:53
cliffreichoh ok00:53
nobody1undecim that dimmed it but flicker still happens00:53
cliffreichsounds like a better way to customize ubuntu00:53
bazhangmjayk, may be confused about shell and de00:53
bubbasaurescliffreich, It is pretty much all there anyway, the gnome-shell00:53
undecimnobody1, Okay, I know the fix for the backlight00:54
hetiiQ: why /etc/update-motd.d/50-landscape-sysinfo is called on logout instead login ?00:54
undecimnobody1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight#Intel_HD_Graphic_Controllers00:54
nobody1whats the command to make it brighter, its hard to see lol00:54
bazhangthere are tons of plugins for gnome-shell as well cliffreich00:54
hetiiwhen I relogin instead current system information I see that one from last login00:55
hetiiwhat it make a bit nosense00:55
bubbasaurescliffreich, THere is gnome-tweak for the shell and a website with shell addons00:55
bubbasauresdoh missed your post bazhang00:55
undecimnobody1, Press ALT+F2, type " gksu gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/80-backlight.conf", and paste the lines shown at that link (from "Section" to "EndSection"), save it, and your backlight should work after reboot00:56
bazhangit happens, with the fast scroll00:56
cliffreichim taking a look right now. thanks guys00:56
undecimnobody1, as for the flicker, that's going to need a kernel line to fix (I know this because the flicker happens at the splash screen, before Xorg loads)00:57
bubbasaurescliffreich, This also install the gnome fallback a pseudo gnome 2 desktop, many like it as well.00:57
nobody1undecim alright ima resart to see if it works cus this dim light is starting to hurt00:59
jakesyl_insomniahey is there anyway to exclude urls like domain.com/index.php?id=1 domain.com/index.php?id=2 and just get domain.com/index.php01:02
Carogahi all01:02
nobody1undecim alright looks like it worked in the sense that i can change it in the brightness settings but button still doesnt work, which if fine by me if theres no fix for it01:03
CarogaI am searching for proxy setups on ubuntu, what would you guys recommend using ?01:03
CarogaI found squid, thought that Varnish would be a option as well. Any other recommendations ?01:03
undecimnobody1, Well the keys can still be fixed. Now that you can do it with a GUI, it means the "backend" stuff on the backlight is working properly.01:04
undecimnobody1, Found this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty_Hardware#Screen_Keeps_Flickering01:04
undecimnobody1, Menu -> System -> Administration -> Advanced -> Service Manager -> Uncheck "Detect RANDR (monitor) changes"01:05
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jakesyl_insomniaso any idea?01:05
nobody1undecim where is menu lol01:05
undecimnobody1, idk... I'm on Lubuntu, which has a different frontend interface01:06
nobody1undecim oh01:06
undecimnobody1, Try searching "Service Manager" in the Unity menu01:06
nobody1doesnt show up01:07
nobody1undecim doesnt show up01:07
undecimnobody1, I'll start a LiveCD in VirtualBox and see if I can find the menu its referring to01:08
nobody1undecim ok01:09
undecimnobody1, Oops. Those instructions appear to be for KDE/Kubuntu01:11
binarydepthSo I added the bootia file and it booted. Isn't this going to be added to the Ubuntu default ISO ?01:12
binarydepthI'm talking about 32 bit EFI01:12
undecimnobody1, Though it would seem to suggest that disabling xrandr would do roughly the same thing01:13
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undecimnobody1, It might also prevent you from adding displays (i.e. an external monitor)01:14
nobody1undecim damn alright thats not really a priority atm so just fixing the flickering is fine01:14
noxchiHello, does anyone know what is the command-line i should use to Find & Delete files of a specific extention in a specific folder ?01:16
Stanley00noxchi: you can use find :301:17
Caroganoxchi what extension ?01:17
Carogabecause with find you could do something like:" find . -name '*.exe' -delete"01:18
Stanley00noxchi: find /path/to/your/dir -iname '*.ext' <= to make sure it works, then find /path/to/your/dir -iname '*.ext' -delete to delete it01:18
CarogaStanley00 ever made a proxy using ubuntu ?01:18
noxchii mean, to find and delete files in one command.... i have like 144 GB of data that i dont need ... extentins are txt and doc are not needed at all, and they are like 4 something million files... i dont need them all...01:18
undecimnobody1, Press ALT+F2, type " gksu gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/01-server-flags.conf", and paste these lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9738335/01:19
Caroganoxchi read back :)01:19
noxchiaha01:19
undecimnobody1, Actually, don't do that01:19
Stanley00Caroga: nope, sorry, but I heard that squid is quite good. Is that for personal use?01:19
undecimnobody1, Use  "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf",01:20
nobody1undecim alright ill stay on standby01:20
CarogaStanley00 somehow yes and no.01:20
CarogaI've read about squid.01:20
nobody1undecim and paste the same thing?01:20
Carogadont know if it's what i need.01:20
undecimnobody1, yup01:20
noxchiill give it a shot :D01:20
nobody1undecim alright saved it now what01:21
Stanley00Caroga: you can have a look at here, polipo is simple for non-enterprise use :3 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Category:Proxy_servers01:21
nobody1undecim resart?01:21
undecimnobody1, yup01:21
nobody1undecim alright brb01:21
Delta706I have a new motherboard and now sound is not working. Might I need the latest version of pulseaudio?01:22
Carogathanks Stanley0001:23
CarogaI will read into it01:23
Stanley00Caroga: welcome :301:23
bubbasauresDelta706, Here we work with what is in the ubuntu repo, so decribe the issue to the channel.01:23
micahso these pages about how to get software into the software center used to exist, but now they dont and the only thing on developer.ubuntu.com are things related to mobile, where is the non-mobile stuff gone? http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/apps/other-forms-of-submitting-apps/my-apps-packages/ http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/02/how-to-prepare-a-compiled-application-for-ubuntu-software-center/ ?01:23
nobody1undecim looks like it didnt fix it01:24
Delta706bubbasaures: I am using 14.04 and getting no sound from the speaker01:24
undecimnobody1, Can you paste Xorg.0.log to check that the settings were loaded?01:24
bubbasauresDelta706, Not me the channel is all. ;)01:25
undecimnobody1, Can you paste Xorg.0.log to check that the settings were loaded?01:25
nobody1undecim alright gotta look for the file path again01:25
undecimnobody1, /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:25
bubbasaures!sound | Delta706 a little to look at while waiting01:26
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ubottuDelta706 a little to look at while waiting: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.01:26
nobody1undecim http://paste.ubuntu.com/9738410/01:26
jakesyl_insomniaso any idea?01:28
jakesyl_insomniahey is there anyway to exclude urls like domain.com/index.php?id=1 domain.com/index.php?id=2 and just get domain.com/index.php when running wget -r01:28
undecimnobody1, Okay, strangely the log simultaneously reports that the config was loaded, but randr was still loaded01:28
RescisAnyone here play Metro Last Light or Metro 2033 (Redux)?01:28
undecimnobody1, I think maybe "off" was the wrong value to use in those lines01:28
RescisI can;t get it to load properly, tells me I need OpenGL 4.0 or higher.01:29
undecimnobody1, Try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing "off" to "True" in the 2 lines in the ServerFlags sections01:29
nobody1undecim so yes instead? whats the command to get to te file01:29
tigrangjakesyl_insomnia, wget --reject-regex '(.*)\?(.*)' domain.com/index.php01:30
undecimnobody1, ALT+F2 "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" for GUI01:30
undecimnobody1, "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" for CLI01:30
Stanley00jakesyl_insomnia: you can try "wget --reject-regex '(.*)\?(.*)' http://example.com"01:31
undecimnobody1, Sorry, I should have told you to change it to "False"01:32
undecimnobody1, got my booleans backwards01:32
nobody1undecim good thing im slow so False with capital f?01:32
nobody1undecim heard linux is case sensative01:32
jakesyl_insomniatigrang/stanley00 how do i also exclude mp3/mp4 in that regular expression?01:33
tigrangjakesyl_insomnia, add -R mp3,mp401:33
tigrang-R is reject suffixes01:34
nobody1undecim alright restarting01:34
undecimnobody1, Yes, should be capital01:34
jakesyl_insomnia okay so here's what I got: wget -r  --reject-regex '(.*)\?(.*)' -R mp3,mp4 domain.com01:35
jakesyl_insomniaand it's aying invalid01:35
jakesyl_insomniasaying*01:35
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MikeHaffcan i get a hand01:36
bubbasaures!ask | MikeHaff01:37
ubottuMikeHaff: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:37
MikeHaffTrying to install Ubuntu 14.04 on a Toshiba Satellite C55-B2750 but it doesnt want to boot via disc or USB and there's menu to press f2 or f12 for bios and boot options01:38
nobody1undecim looks like it didnt work01:38
undecimnobody1, I checked the xorg manual, and the "off" should have worked just the same as "false"01:38
undecimnobody1, Linux is case-sensitive in many cases. But not in xorg.conf.01:38
nobody1undecim well sad day both of it didnt work01:39
bubbasauresMikeHaff, Small list here to ask, did you check the sum of the iso, how did you load it to the usb? Is this a uefi bios?01:39
MikeHaffIm booting via disc01:39
MikeHaffI always burn to disc. USB never works for me01:40
bubbasauresMikeHaff, Right asked three questions, how does what I asked relate?01:40
jakesyl_insomniaMikeHaff do a checksum01:40
bubbasauresmd5sum | MikeHaff if needed, great place to start.01:40
bubbasaures!md5sum01:41
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows01:41
bubbasauressorry01:41
jakesyl_insomniaSo any ideas, I think I'm following the docs, but I'm not sure.  Anyway i can include the mp3/mp4 in the regex01:41
MikeHaffForgot to mention, the sum is fine, I checked it, and it installed on my Dell Precision Workstation 690 just fine.01:41
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MikeHaffAnd im not sure what kinds of bios it is because there is no option to boot into bios. Windows 8.1 if that matters01:42
bubbasauresMikeHaff, Great that helps, so what happens when you try what do you see?01:42
bubbasaures!uefi | MikeHaff Hugely important if uefi/gpt you have to check01:42
ubottuMikeHaff Hugely important if uefi/gpt you have to check: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI01:42
jakesyl_insomniaI think I found part of the issue, it's saying --reject-regex isn't a valid option01:42
MikeHaffI reboot and it shows me the toshiba logo, then right into windows 8. No keyboard options during boot for bios or boot options.01:43
MikeHaffHow do i check01:43
bubbasauresMikeHaff, This straight from toshiba with W8?01:43
jakesyl_insomniakeep hitting the f keys during boot, it'll tale you to something useful eventually01:43
jakesyl_insomniaf1,f2,f3,f4....01:43
MikeHaffYes01:43
undecimnobody1, What resolutions did you try with gfxpayload?01:44
Jordan_UMikeHaff: Windows 8 in its settings should have an option to boot into firmware configuration.01:44
bubbasauresMikeHaff, Thanks, Jordan_U is really up on this stuff.01:44
nobody1undecim 1920X108001:44
MikeHaffThat was the next thing i tried. It didnt even boot via DVD from restarting in the windows 8 advanced settings menu01:44
undecimnobody1, try 1024x76801:44
undecimnobody1, Other than that, I'm out of ideas01:45
nobody1the gksudo isnt bringing up the file01:45
undecimnobody1, gksu?01:46
nobody1undecim after i do gksudo geddit /etc/default/grub and type in password it doesnt do anything it just goes to next command line like i didnt type anything to begin with01:46
undecimnobody1, it's "gksu gedit"01:47
nobody1undecim sudo does the same thing too01:47
nobody1undecim following that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161313201:47
undecimnobody1, if you have another Gedit window open, it might just open a new tab in that window01:48
MikeHaffJordan_U: That was the next thing i tried. It didnt even boot via DVD from restarting in the windows 8 advanced settings menu01:48
undecimdoes gedit have tabs?01:48
bubbasauresMikeHaff, Take a look at that bots message, there are things needed in general turned off and adjusted to install ubuntu. If your in the hybrid boot that is a barrier.01:49
nobody1undecim no i dont01:49
MikeHaff"In your BIOS, disable QuickBoot/FastBoot and Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT). If you have Windows8, also disable FastStartup."01:49
MikeHaffI cannot enter BIOS01:49
bubbasauresMikeHaff, Do you know what I mean by hybrid boot?01:50
MikeHaffNo..01:50
Stanley00jakesyl_insomnia: --reject-regex works for me. Can you find for it in 'wget --help'?01:50
JpmhI am using what I believe to be an unmodified ubuntu 12.04 - yet when I type: vi -x somefile, I get the message that it is an unknown argument.  What am I missing here?01:50
bubbasauresMikeHaff, That is the fast boot, you want to be off when you start, windows has a hybrid sleep/hibernate fast boot.01:51
MikeHaffHow can i disable it if i cant get into bios01:51
bubbasauresMikeHaff, You make sure you have turned the computer fully off, just a guess here that you're not.01:51
undecimnobody1, If gedit isn't working, have you tried 'sudo nano'?01:52
bubbasauresthan adjust the bios01:52
nobody1undecim nano works01:52
nobody1undecim idk how to use it though01:52
MikeHaffYes. Full shut down. Then when it boots up there is no option to enter bios, just a boot splash screen and then right into windows 801:52
undecimnobody1, It's pretty straight forward. Like  GUI text editor without mouse control01:53
nobody1undecim after i change it to120x720 what do i press01:53
bubbasauresMikeHaff, You might look around for the bios access on that model and or ask in windows, we can only cover so much of the windows part assuming you have the skill set, which I suspect you do.01:53
nobody1undecim *128001:54
MikeHaffI do. I'll look into it01:54
MikeHaffthanks01:54
bubbasaureswe want you to succeed, some have more skills than others in this area is all.01:54
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bubbasauresshould have mentioned don't mention dual boot in windows, gets real quite there than.01:56
undecimnobody1, you should change it to 1024x76801:57
undecimnobody1, then ctrl+w to save ("write")01:57
undecimnobody1, and ctrl+x to exit01:57
undecimnobody1, then sudo update-grub to confirm the changes01:58
nobody1undecim i dont think cntr w is it cus it brought up a searh01:58
undecimnobody1, Sorry, ctrl+o01:58
undecimNot exactly intuitive...01:59
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nobody1undecim alright time to restart lets hope this works01:59
jerphthtI'm having a dual boot issue  - i tried installing ubuntu alongside win 7 and the bootloader doesn't load at startup. It's a laptop with an ssd with 3 partitions (win, root, and linuxswap) and a second ntfs hd.02:02
bubbasauresjerphtht, Have you tried having either HD as the first read to boot?02:02
nobody1undecim nope didnt work still flickering02:03
undecimnobody1, 'fraid I'm out of ideas then.02:03
undecimnobody1, I've never had this much trouble with Intel :/02:03
nobody1undecim dam guess gotta just use nomodeset02:04
jerphthtwill try that now bubbasaures02:04
undecimnobody1, What are the cons to nomodeset? I know that the graphics performance will be crap...02:04
undecimnobody1, Actually, I just got one more idea...02:05
undecimnobody1, I have to look something up though02:05
nobody1undecim alright lets try it02:05
militantpotatoHey, I have a dual monitor setup, with a TV connected via an HDMI cable, and my monitor through DVI.  I'm having an issue with GRUB where it only displays on the Television, which is annoying because it is either off, or being used for something else.  What do I add/change in the grub config to force it to show on my primary display (monitor).  I'm using Kubuntu 14.0402:06
undecimnobody1, nevermind, the gfxpayload option also does the change that I had in mind02:07
nobody1undecim darn alright ill just put nomodeset ack02:08
undecimnobody1, you can try setting GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 in /etc/default/grub (it's about halfway down. You need to remove the # at the beginning of the line)02:10
Bashing-omnobody1: An Intell "nomodeset" paramater  i915.modeset=1  ...02:11
undecimBashing-om, is that any different that "nomodeset"?02:11
undecimthan*02:11
nobody1undecim do i leave the gfx in the quite spash line?02:11
bubbasauresmilitantpotato, This make any sense, "System Settings > Display and Monitor" there is a star on each display that you can click to set which is primary.02:12
militantpotatobubbasaures: All is well with the primary display setting once Xorg fires up.  It's just the GRUB menu that is on the wrong display.02:12
Bashing-omundecim: Yeah .. Like you I am not aware that the kernel with Intel recognizes "nomodeset" as Nvidia or ATI do .02:13
bubbasauresmilitantpotato, Not used kubuntu but is the 2nd one set as a primary?02:13
bubbasauresas well02:13
militantpotatobubbasaures: Negative. My monitor is set as primary (it also has my tool bar and desktop icons, so I believe it is working properly.)02:14
undecimnobody1, yes, but set it to "keep"02:14
bubbasauresmilitantpotato, You might ask in #grub not sure myself.02:14
militantpotatobubbasaures: I believe I need to modify grub.conf with something specifying the default monitor.02:15
Bashing-omundecim: nobody1 Later Intel cards use " i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 ". Do not know where the Haswel card falls into .02:15
undecimnobody1, When you restart, you might have problems with nomodeset. With the backlight fix, we explicitly declared the card as one that requires the intel driver.02:15
militantpotatobubbasaures: Already ahead of ya, waiting on a reply :)02:15
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bubbasauresgood job02:15
undecimnobody1, then again, it might force intel to take over...02:15
undecimnobody1, If it does something funny, let me know02:15
strangleundecim: Intel has taken over02:15
nobody1undecim wait idk what to put can you send me a pastebin of what it should look like http://pastebin.com/dNLTKbKh02:16
bubbasauresmilitantpotato, /etc/default/grub is the config you change with if that is the answer02:17
undecimnobody1, at the end of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, add "gfxpayload=keep"02:17
undecimnobody1, and don't forget to sudo update-grub02:18
snypUbuntu doesn't seem to save my powertop settings02:18
strangleNo nobody102:18
nobody1undecim alright restarting lets see where this takes me02:19
bubbasauressnyp, kinda old but probably right, you might search through this source as well. http://askubuntu.com/questions/112705/how-do-i-make-powertop-changes-permanent02:20
snypbubbasaures, ok02:21
undecimstrangle, You mad about something?02:21
bubbasauressnyp, YOU didn't metion the release you have 3 supported so I just searched with ubuntu, kinda loose foo02:21
hetiiQ: Why I get different output: http://pastebin.com/qByDqpRu02:22
nobody1undecim looks like it didnt do anything time to just put back no modeset02:22
stranglenobody1: nomodeset is the lazy way oit02:23
nobody1strangle we spent about 6 hrs trying to figure this out02:24
nobody1strangle whats the way out then02:24
undecimstrangle, You know how to fix the flicker then?02:24
strangleundecim: lower resolution.02:25
undecimstrangle, nope, tried that02:25
strangleundecim: try progressive output02:26
undecimstrangle, how?02:26
strangleAre you using hdmi02:27
undecimstrangle, It's a laptop using eDP02:27
undecimstrangle, xrandr output (kms enabled) http://pastebin.com/SYsDgqQ002:28
strangleAnd you use Intel undecim02:28
undecimstrangle, I've had intel cards in the past. Don't have one currently02:29
strangleundecim: what's your gpu02:29
Magnus__How do I install the Xubuntu desktop, xfce4 or whatever. I am looking for an ultrafast desktop environment02:29
undecimstrangle, whatever Radeon comes with an A1002:30
undecimnobody1, has an intel Haswell (that's the one we're trying to fix the flicker on)02:30
undecimstrangle, Xorg.conf (KMS enabled) http://paste.ubuntu.com/9737440/02:31
undecimstrangle, With nomodeset, fbdev driver takes over the display02:31
strangleundecim: so it's generic driver02:31
undecimstrangle, no, without nomodeset, it loads the intel driver02:32
undecimbut it flickers, starting with the boot splash02:32
Magnus__How do I install the Xubuntu desktop, xfce4 or whatever. I am looking for an ultrafast desktop environment02:33
noxchihow can i get a list of file extensions in a directory ? Not: directory contains around 73K files ... all i need is something like ( .jpg .mp3 .doc .zip ... ) and so on ... any help please?02:33
strangleundecim: Did you try installing fglrx02:34
noxchioh, for my question above, im asking for the COMMAND line to do what i need,,,,02:34
undecimstrangle, dont think fglrx will help on intel cards...02:34
Bashing-omMagnus__: Ultra fast is a core install, and only install the applications "you" want .02:35
strangleundecim: You have dual GPU. ?? Intel and AMD.02:35
Magnus__How do I do a core install?02:35
undecimnoxchi, probably a sed command and | uniq will do it02:35
undecimstrangle, I have a perfectly functioning AMD gpu running 2 1080p displays with no problem02:36
Bashing-omMagnus__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall .02:36
undecimstrangle, I was helping someone else fix a problem they were having with an Intel card02:36
noxchiundecim: can you explain? im not good with commans at all ..02:37
undecimnoxchi, gimme a minute to figure it out02:37
undecimnoxchi, need to find my regex cheat sheet02:37
noxchiOkay02:37
strangleundecim: so it's him not you with problem02:37
undecimstrangle, correct02:37
MikeHaffSo as it turns out, my system is configured with UEFI Boot02:38
strangleMikeHaff: that's okay.02:38
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snypbubbasaures, i am on ubuntu 14.04. sorry didn't notice your message. i think that will work, it uses some brute force kind of thing, like executing the commands everytime on boot. on arch it gets saved automatically02:38
bubbasauressnyp, Great, enjoy.02:39
sgp667does anyone here have any experience with command line calendar/todo apps?02:39
snyphm02:39
MikeHaffokay. I firgured out i have to enter bios from andvanced startup menu in windows 8. but still cant boot via disc. even tried putting my disc drive as boot order first02:39
undecimnoxchi, Probably a "prettier" way to do it, but: ls | sed 's/.*\./\./' | grep '\.' | uniq02:40
bubbasauresMikeHaff, How fast were you booting to windows before you got to the bios when you were fully off?02:41
undecimin particular, I'm sure the sed and grep could be put into one command02:41
strangleMikeHaff: can't boot Windows or ubuntu or both in bios mode.02:41
nobody1undecim so should i just put nomodeset back?02:42
undecimnobody1, that sounds like the only way to get rid of flicker02:42
MikeHaffI cant boot into Bios strangle. I have to enter windows 8>PC Settings>Recovery>Advanced Start Up> Advanced Options> UEFI Boot Options. After i select that it doesnt even present the toshiba splash screen on reboot into UEFI Boot Options02:42
undecimnobody1, I've seen some posts saying that upgrading to 14.10 fixes it02:42
stranglenobody1: Are you on laptop02:42
undecimnobody1, But that's no guarantee02:43
nobody1stangle yes02:43
undecimstrangle sounds like he has some ideas on fixing it if you want to continue02:43
nobody1undecim is it hard to upgrade like do i have to start from the beginning or just type something in CLI02:43
strangleMikeHaff: oh you want the Toshiba splash screen.02:44
MikeHaffno02:44
noxchiundecim: hmm, forgive my stupidity here, say my directory is ( /home/user/folder ) and inside there tons of folders containing thousands of files, how to use ls to get files extensions ? i appretiare your help :)02:44
undecimnoxchi, You want it to recurse into directories?02:44
MikeHaffIm on windows 8, booting into it no problem. i needed to get into bios or uefi boot which i had to do via windows 8 advanced start up02:45
strangleMikeHaff: is their a secure boot option in uefi.02:45
undecimnobody1, you just have to type "do-release-upgrade" in the terminal02:45
noxchino, i want to determine which types i should delete after that ,, because i have many  i dont need and it takes forever to open them using GUI02:45
MikeHaffthere were no boot options02:46
nobody1undecim alright ill try that then02:46
MikeHaffbeyond drive options02:46
strangleMikeHaff: during boot tap f1202:46
MikeHaffim trying to install ubuntu on a machine that doesnt let me pick a boot option02:46
nobody1undecim it says no new release found02:46
undecimnoxchi, I don't understand what you're asking. You want a list of which extensions are there, like ".txt", ".doc", etc?02:46
undecimnobody1, You're on 14.04 LTS, or 14.10?02:47
MikeHaffstrangle, windows 8 computers dont allow that02:47
undecimMikeHaff, yes they do02:47
bubbasauresMikeHaff, you might do a vm till you figure this out, we have people wipe there set ups and brick at times.02:47
MikeHaffthats why i had to get into UEFI boot from windows02:47
undecimMikeHaff, I installed Lubuntu on 4 Win8 computers in 1 hour yesterday02:47
MikeHaffAll i need now is how to install ubuntu in UEFI02:47
undecimMikeHaff, You need to disable fast boot02:47
nobody1undecim in the details it says 14.04 LTS02:47
undecimMikeHaff, It's in the "Choose what the power button does" section02:47
undecimMikeHaff, Also, you have to use the 64-bit version02:48
MikeHaffill look again02:48
bubbasauresMikeHaff, The manufacturers have their own fork of uefi, there is no exact method, but a series of options as seen in the urfi bot info.02:48
undecimnobody1, maybe you need to use "-d" for development version.02:48
MikeHaffI am using the 64 bit version02:48
noxchiundecim: yes .. i want to get the extensions inside...  so i can later choose extensions to delete ,,, like this (find /home/user/folder -name *.extention  -delete) ....02:48
bubbasauresuefi*02:48
undecimnoxchi, Then you will want to use the "find" command02:48
strangleMikeHaff: tapping f12 during boot on most Toshiba's Will enter boot device options. Setup will also be an option02:48
noxchiundecim: i have many file types in there ... isnt there a command that gives me the types inside the folder?02:49
undecimnoxchi, use "find /path/to/directory -type f -name '*.*' | sed 's/.*\./\./' | uniq"02:50
nobody1undecim so whats the whole command then02:50
Bashing-omnobody1: -> grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades <- to release upgrade 14.04/14.10 .. "prompt-normal' .02:50
undecimnoxchi, that will list all the extensions in the directory02:50
noxchiGreat02:50
undecimnobody1, do-dist-upgrade -d02:50
nobody1undecim no doesnt work02:51
undecimnobody1, sorry, do-release-upgrade -d02:51
noxchiundecim: i got this (find: `f': No such file or directory )02:52
kokuthello, anyone knows a good alternative to subdownloader?02:52
nobody1undecim alright its running02:52
undecimnoxchi, put a space between the directory and -type02:52
undecimnoxchi, Also, you can simply use "./" to refer to the current directory02:52
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MikeHaffdisabled secureboot02:53
undecimnoxchi, If you want to DELETE EVERY instance of a specific extension in a directory, then you use "find /path/to/directory -iname '*.ext' -delete"02:53
MikeHaffstill no f2 f12 option02:53
undecimnoxchi, If you want to simply list the files (so you can look over the list, before deleting it), you leave out the "-delete" option.02:53
undecimMikeHaff, Not just secureboot02:53
undecimMikeHaff, Fastboot02:53
undecimor "fast startup" or whatever the MS team called it02:54
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MikeHaffwhere is it because i didnt see anything else in power management02:54
noxchiundecim: yeah ive already used the -delete command.... and thanks the command u gave me above is working... its listing the extensions right now ... i have tones of them02:54
bubbasauresMikeHaff, So even if you boot ubuntu, you have to resize windows with it's partitioner for a unallocated space for ubuntu.02:54
undecimMikeHaff, It's under a section titled something like "Choose what the power button does"02:54
undecimMikeHaff, It should be on the left-hand side in the power options02:54
MikeHaffit isnt02:55
bubbasauresMikeHaff, THat for me?02:55
Nathan2055What is the recommend amount of RAM for Ubuntu?02:55
undecimMikeHaff, http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-or-enable-fast-startup-in-windows-8-1/02:55
strangleMikeHaff: when their look for option to change hidden items02:55
MikeHaffBubb i havent even gotten to ubuntu yet02:55
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MikeHaffstill trying to tell windows to eff off lol02:56
bubbasauresMikeHaff, You can tab complete nicks.02:56
undecimNathan2055, If you have less than 512MB, you should consider Xubuntu or Lubuntu02:56
noxchiundecim: one last questions please, can i delete more than file type like this (find /path/to/directory -iname '*.txt' '*.doc' '*mp3' -delete ) ?02:56
Nathan2055I have 4GB in this laptop, I'm just wondering how much I should allocate to the VM?02:57
bubbasauresNathan2055, 3 seconds to find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements02:57
undecimnoxchi, You can use multiple -iname, if you put -o (for "or") in between02:57
MikeHaffundecim, thanks. now i shall try again, lol02:57
undecimnoxchi, find /directory/ -iname '*.txt' -o -iname '*.doc'02:57
undecimnoxchi, Be careful though. You can leave out -delete the first time to double-check what files will be deleted02:58
noxchiGreat ... Thank you undecim :) u saved my day :)02:58
strangleNathan2055: some recommend matching your ram.02:58
undecimnoxchi, Also, if you're trying to make space, check out baobab02:58
Nathan2055Won't that make the Windows 7 host go boom, though?02:59
noxchiill do02:59
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undecimNathan2055, 512MB Should be enough if you aren't doing anything Ram-intensive02:59
Nathan2055kk03:00
undecimNathan2055, I've got an Ubuntu VM running just fine on in VirtualBox on 512MB ram, and 20% of a 4GHz core.03:00
strangleNathan2055: oh I was think swap. On VM. It really won't slow it down using minimum ram. It will use system ram as needed anyway03:01
Nathan2055I assume max graphics memory, right?03:01
undecimNathan2055, from the looks of it, I could get it down to 128MB03:01
bubbasauresundecim, ubuntu with a desktop, on 512?03:01
undecimNathan2055, Actually, correction. This is Lubuntu I've got, not Ubuntu03:01
bubbasauresah the truth ;)03:01
undecimI'm curious now, how low I can get Ubuntu03:02
Nathan2055How low can you go! How low can you go!03:02
Nathan2055:PP03:02
Nathan2055*:P03:02
undecimi'll try Lubuntu on 128MB first03:02
bubbasauresnet installs of lubuntu can get a very small ram use03:03
undecimWith a VM you can run the installer, then decrease the RAM later03:03
quickputtyhello, anyone familiar with rsync?03:03
undecimquickputty, Ask your question and find out03:03
garhowe45heelo03:04
quickputtyrsync are often use to sync source -->destination. is it possible to ask rsync to sync equally both. so if i put a folder will be sync03:04
stranglenobody1: what's your gpu and system03:04
quickputtyso like, both can be source and destination03:04
undecimquickputty, You just run it twice03:04
quickputtywat do you mean03:05
bubbasauresquickputty, You want a auto rsync?03:05
undecimquickputty, But doing this makes one directory take precedence03:05
nobody1strangle my computer is asus q502l03:05
quickputtybubbasaures - not sure what you mean by auto rsync03:05
quickputtyi need to be able to edit both folder03:05
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quickputtyand both folder is always sync03:05
undecimquickputty, I.e. if you sync A->B first, then files on A will overwrite files on B, but new files from B will appear on A03:05
stranglenobody1: what gpu03:05
undecimquickputty, I think BitTorrent Sync is what you want03:05
bubbasauresquickputty, automatic, or daily.....etc03:05
quickputtyautomatic would be great03:05
undecimquickputty, It's a persistent Sync, like Dropbox or similar, but connects directly between two computers03:06
quickputtyundecim its on same computer03:06
undecimquickputty, Or any number of computers, for that matter.03:06
quickputtyits 2 folder03:06
bubbasauresquickputty, cool thanks for confirming the end goal.03:06
Nathan2055Should I enable 3D acceleration on the VM? I went ahead and gave it max video RAM after what happened last night: http://i.imgur.com/xxcpm3B.png03:06
undecimquickputty, You could use a link or a bind to make the folders point to the same place?03:07
undecimNathan2055, If this is VirtualBox with a Linux host, it doesn't matter03:07
nobody1strangle intel hd graphics 440003:07
quickputtybubbasaures - well i have 2 folders with pictures inside. i often upload in the folder1 but my wife upload in folder203:07
Nathan2055Alright, I'll leave it on then.03:07
quickputtyi need both to be sync.03:07
bubbasauresquickputty, Looks like your being helped to me.03:08
quickputtyundecim, its not my goal, bcuz both are in diffrerent hard drive. make it safer03:08
maestrojedSuddenly I am having input (keyboard and mouse) issues with my ubuntu desktop machine. The best way I can describe it is I can't click on most icons/buttons/elements but not all. Examples: System Settings Dialog - I can't click on any icon but I can click into the search box, input text, click in the text and move the curser, etc. Firefox: I can't click into the address bar but I can tab there and input text and then click in the03:08
maestrojed text to move the curser. I can't click on the Close|Min|Max marbles in any application.03:08
undecimquickputty, gotcha03:08
Nathan2055Alright, here I go with the install...03:08
nobody1strangle im in the middle of upgraing to 14.10 to se if that works03:08
undecimIs there an rsync option to prevent overwriting?03:08
quickputtyundecim : any sigestion?03:08
bubbasauresmaestrojed, can you log out than in?03:09
bubbasauresor have you?03:09
undecimquickputty, I would do a cron job that runs rsync twice03:09
undecimquickputty, or just use "cp -n"03:09
maestrojedbubbasaures I have rebooted. I have been trouble shooting this for days. I haven't ask in here yet cause it seems so ill defined03:09
quickputtyundecim - this wont work bcuz if i edit afile in the folder1 and folder2 got sync first. my file will dispear or replaced03:10
demoun.03:10
maestrojedAlso I am getting an error when I run updates that only partial updates could complete. Though it doesn't tell me why. I am not sure if that is related03:10
bubbasauresmaestrojed, check if the guest is the same.03:10
maestrojedbubbasaures ok03:10
bubbasauresmaestrojed, Did you run any partial upgrades?03:10
maestrojedbubbasaures yes03:11
undecimquickputty, there is an rsync option to check for sync based on modification time03:11
bubbasauresmaestrojed, THat is a huge mistake.03:11
undecimquickputty, i.e. the file with the latest modification time gets to be overwritten03:11
demoun你们的速度好快..03:11
bubbasaures!cn | demoun03:11
ubottudemoun: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw03:11
demouncan i speak here03:11
maestrojedbubbasaures oh no :) I felt I was following what the dialog boxes were recommending03:11
undecimquickputty, correction, earliest modification time gets overwritten03:11
maestrojedbubbasaures guest acct works03:12
maestrojedbubbasaures let me switch back and confirm I still have an issue03:12
undecimquickputty, I think there's a rsync option that would keep copies of conflicting edits, too.03:12
bubbasauresmaestrojed, Users some times do not know this, not really something I have the time to tear apart, others may be able however.03:12
quickputtyundecim: is it automatic or there are a flag for it? or you are not sure?03:12
undecimquickputty, there is a flag03:12
quickputtyundecim: oh, let me verify sound interesting!03:12
quickputtyundecim: big thanks03:13
undecimIs RAID not an option?03:13
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maestrojedbubbasaures I get that you can't go in depth, but what do you think the issue is in general? I can research and I know linux fairly well (though not desktop)03:13
bubbasauresmaestrojed, depth yes generally, patience no. ;)03:14
bubbasauresbetter not start for me03:14
undecimquickputty. Or another option that may work better: use a symlink/bind to put them both on 1 drive, and use the other as a backup. This way you don't have to worry about conflicting edits or other sync issues03:14
undecimquickputty, It would also reduce wear on the backup drive03:15
bubbasauresmaestrojed, Nothing personal. ;)03:15
stranglequickputty: or use online folder03:16
stranglequickputty: their are some like dropbox for Linux03:17
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stranglequickputty: dropbox will put virtual folder on machine03:18
bubbasauresmaestrojed, I use a basic statistics scientific inquiry method, start from the easiest options, that would include a cause and effect, I missed you asked this.03:18
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strangle/03:18
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stranglebubbasaures: sure you can03:18
bubbasaurescan what?03:19
strangle肏/操 You bubbasaures03:19
bubbasauresI'm not going to bother more than with an ignore on this03:20
maestrojedbubbasaures ah huh... I don't take it personally. It seemed like you had an idea of what was wrong since you said to try a guest acct and that did indeed work. I am not looking for a walk through. Nor am I a n00b. So a general topic to look into would have been fine.03:21
maestrojedI guess you are saying you don't have a general idea but are confident you could figure it out if you set out to it03:21
maestrojedI am sure you could03:21
bubbasaures!ops | strangle translate please03:21
ubottustrangle translate please: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang03:21
stranglebubbasaures: what's that mean03:22
undecimLubuntu is running on 128MB /800MHz in VirtualBox... but it's painful03:24
bubbasauresmaestrojed, There is no general book on this or info really, a partial upgrade you would just want to know what upgraded I would suppose to start with. I asked to check the guest so we knew if this was system wide.03:24
geniibubbasaures: Don't use !ops unless it's some emergency03:24
undecimI think performance would be worse on bare metal, since the disk won't be cached03:24
bubbasauresgenii, I rarely use ops03:25
maestrojedbubbasaures gotcha.03:25
maestrojedThis is 12.04, Think an upgrade to 14.04 would fix it? :)03:26
bubbasauresmaestrojed, not with held packages at the least03:26
bubbasauresmaestrojed, check /home/username/.bash_history  for your bash info03:28
bubbasauresmight be a clue there03:29
bubbasauresgenii, Someone swearing in another language to get by with it seemed more like an ops issue, not my argument on channel COC is all.03:30
maestrojedthe last "more complex" thing I did was enable wake on lan. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9739965/03:31
rwwi note that "emergency" and "ops issue" are not the same thing03:31
maestrojedother than that its a lot of just nothing for a long time03:31
maestrojedBy nothing I mean just typical usage.03:32
bubbasauresrww, Cool will stop by ops next time03:32
customhey03:32
bubbasauresthat is a definition per ops anyway, some roll some don't03:32
customhow can i see x desktop instead color in greyscale?03:32
bubbasaurescustom, You might make that a bit clearer and include the release and desktop, and some hardware info03:35
Nathan2055So the installation went fine, but the screen is a bit small: http://i.imgur.com/O894b0H.png03:36
Nathan2055I assume the Guest Additions will fix that?03:36
undecimNathan2055, yup03:36
Nathan2055kk03:36
undecimNathan2055, gives you shared folder access, too03:36
Nathan2055Nice.03:36
undecimyou have to use the mount command manually, though03:36
undecimor maybe fstab works. Haven't tried it03:37
undecimmount -t vboxsf foldername mountpoint03:37
Nathan2055Doesn't VBox have auto-mount?03:38
undecimNathan2055, yeah, but it's never worked for Linux guests for me.03:38
Nathan2055Hmm, all right.03:38
undecimBut isn't a little bit of manual CLI work what us Linux users sign up for anyways?03:39
Nathan2055:D03:40
Nathan2055Anyway, should I run apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade before loading the Guest Additions?03:40
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undecimNathan2055, sure03:41
Nathan2055But which should I do? Or should I use the graphical updater that's been nagging me since I first booted up?03:42
undecimNathan2055, if you're not sure, just use the GUI03:42
Nathan2055kk03:42
kim__getting start up errors for GParted in 14.10, is the warning about being unable to inform the kernel of changes normal?  =]03:43
lotuspsychjekim__: could you paste this error?03:45
AnuttymousHey, I'm having trouble getting touchpad input on my laptop, i.e. there is no mouse on-screen. 14.0403:45
bubbasauresAnuttymous, From the start/install?03:46
AnuttymousI'm using "Try Ubuntu" from USB03:46
kim__Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sda2 -- Invalid argument.  This means Linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/sda2 until you reboot -- so you shouldn't mount it or use it in any way before rebooting.03:47
bubbasauresAnuttymous, so with no changes, just a booted live you have this issue?03:47
Anuttymousyes03:47
bubbasauresAnuttymous, Great, thanks that is helpful for the channel to know, have you tried a mouse to confirm whether tap is working?03:48
AnuttymousI don't have a mouse I can test03:48
lotuspsychjekim__: how about fdisk -l can you see all partitions there?03:49
bubbasauresAnuttymous, two links that night help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection03:50
bubbasauresmight*03:50
bubbasauresAnuttymous, ctrl-alt-t will bring you up a terminal.03:51
kim__I can see my boot and backup but not my main?03:52
kim__then this -Partition(s) 2 on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now before making further changes.03:53
lotuspsychjekim__: something might be gone wrong with that partition03:53
lotuspsychjekim__: did you try a reboot?03:53
kim__yes, I rebooted before posting here =[03:53
lotuspsychjekim__: this partition contains ext4 ?03:54
kim__I haven't really poked around it too much I've just never seen this error before03:54
kim__and yes03:54
lotuspsychjekim__: wich ubuntu version?03:55
kim__14.1003:55
kim__You think maybe rollback?03:55
lotuspsychjekim__: i would try a fresh reinstall of 14.0403:55
lotuspsychjekim__: backup your stuff first and reinstall freshly03:55
kim__I hate rolling back >.<  lol but yes maybe so03:56
nobody1undecim dam the upgrade broke the computer gotta re install ubuntu now :/03:56
lotuspsychje!info testdisk | kim__ maybe this can also help03:56
ubottukim__ maybe this can also help: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool, and PhotoRec file recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.14-3 (utopic), package size 314 kB, installed size 1269 kB03:56
kim__tyty03:57
undecimnobody1, That sucks04:01
undecimnobody1, Maybe try a fresh install of 14.10?04:01
AnuttymousSo, xinput list provides no touchpad, mouse or anything, only XTEST pointer04:01
OerHeksAnuttymous, on what laptop exactly?04:02
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AnuttymousIt's a Medion Akoya04:02
lotuspsychjethat explains it :p04:02
nobody1undecim na ima just set nomodeset and wait for a stable upgrade what was that line that i enter into grup to activate the backlight04:02
OerHeksNeer had issues with akoya .. did you check the FN key + mouse button ( F1-F12) for internal/external mouse?04:03
AnuttymousFn key didn't seem to change anything04:04
bubbasauresmy acer aspire one had fn-f6 for mouse control04:05
maestrojedI once compiled/installed Wine. I don't remember much it was a while ago. Now I am getting dependency errors cause it depends on a specific version of Ubuntu which I have upgraded past. I am fine with just removing Wine. Must I fix this dependency issues before I remove it? when I try to remove it, I get the same dependency error. I can provide more specifics if that will help04:05
ion2curl -o temporary.txt http://example.com/file.txt ; tar cJf output.tar.xz temporary.txt ; rm temporary.txt04:05
bubbasaureshad to hit a couple of times usually04:05
ion2how to create output without creating temporary.txt before?04:05
ion2*output.tar.xz*04:06
lotuspsychjemaestrojed: sure pasteubuntu us your errors on packages04:07
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: you could try a real install instead of try live04:07
AnuttymousI'll try that, better dual boot, then04:07
maestrojedlotuspsychje http://paste.ubuntu.com/9740376/04:08
yourbeauwho is using full disk encryption with Gnome here ?04:08
maxwellmaestrojed,04:09
maestrojedsir04:09
maxwellremove wine-browser-installer first04:09
lotuspsychjeyourbeau: ask your question mate04:10
maestrojedok04:10
bubbasauresyourbeau, Better if you address your issue for help. ;)04:10
maxwellor better yet, remove both at once04:10
yourbeaulotuspsychje, bubbasaures ok I was just wondering if its popular or not04:10
lotuspsychje!encrypt | yourbeau04:11
ubottuyourbeau: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory04:11
yourbeauor if I am the only one who is extra paranoid04:11
bubbasauresyourbeau, Good way ti loose everything in my opinion.04:11
yourbeauis everyone using linux-libre with Ubuntu ?04:11
lotuspsychjeyourbeau: security paranoia has many flavors...my vision is external storage hidden deep under the ground04:11
OerHeksyourbeau, depends, how sensitive is your data ? if you run into issues, full encryption can be a hard nut to resolve04:12
yourbeauare all the software in Ubuntu Main Repo Free/LIbre ?04:12
bubbasaurescave encrypt04:12
yourbeauOerHeks, nothing secure at all04:12
maxwellmaestrojed, did it work?04:12
yourbeauOerHeks, I mean my data don't need any kinda encryption04:12
yourbeauits public data mostly04:12
Magnus__How do I make file extensions disappear on documents and images in Ubuntu?04:13
OerHeksyourbeau, then i would advise to encrypt your /home only.04:13
lotuspsychjeif they find an encrypted disk, they will try harder to break the security04:13
yourbeauI have heard it from forks at various channel Ubuntu's Main Repo has non-free software in it and its cheating its users ?04:13
yourbeauIs that true, OerHeks ?04:13
maestrojedmaxwell ok, II uninstall the installer as you suggest. Then I get 3 broken dependencies (netflx-desktop, wine-sliverlight, wine-compholio. Makes sense, all related. So I remove Netflix. Then silverlight, then compholio. But that wine-compholio dependency error persists04:13
maestrojedwanna see a pastebin of all that?04:13
yourbeauOther than Kernel's non-free part what do you have thats non-free in the Main repo ?04:13
OerHeksyourbeau, please, this channel is for support, not FUD04:14
yourbeauOerHeks, Ok I already have FDE04:14
maxwellmaestrojed, remove the installer04:14
yourbeauOerHeks, no but I am asking you since you are using it since long04:14
yourbeauI just want to be sure04:14
Magnus__How do I make file extensions disappear on documents and images in Ubuntu?04:14
lotuspsychjeMagnus__: whats your end goal with this?04:14
Magnus__Less clutter04:14
maestrojedmaxwell http://paste.ubuntu.com/9740502/04:15
OerHeksyourbeau, there is no non-free software in main.04:15
Magnus__I like shorter names? Hate seeing the extensions such as .jpg and .docx, etc04:15
maxwelltry interpreting the problem on your own. "The following packages have unmet dependencies:" is the line to look for. then you see <some package> : Depends: <package you are removing> etc04:15
lotuspsychjeMagnus__: maybe somehwere deep in dconf-editor?04:15
maxwellthis means you need to remove <some package04:16
Magnus__where can I find that?04:16
ion2hello where can I ask Linux command line?04:16
maestrojedmaxwell yes sir, I do. that is what I tried to say. I continue to remove each of these.04:16
maestrojedI remove netflix and it disappears from the list04:16
maxwelltry removing all at once04:16
maestrojedthen sliverlight04:16
maestrojedok04:16
maxwellin one command04:16
maestrojedok, does order matter? I will give it a try04:17
maxwellit doesn't04:17
maxwellI would also recommend removing `wine*' just to make life easier04:17
maxwellthat will remove every package that has "wine" in its name04:18
maestrojedmaxwell I tried that, It said no package found. But removing all in one command certainly seems to be working04:18
anishparanjpeI am installing the latest kernel. I was wondering if 'make install' overwrite my previous kernels entry. Will I be able to boot into my previous kernel04:18
maestrojedmaxwell oh04:18
maxwellahh, coog04:18
maestrojedmaxwell I see the wildcard now04:18
maxwellyes04:18
maestrojedgotcha, thanks04:19
maxwellwildcard is what I mean04:19
maxwellbut!04:19
maestrojed!04:19
maestrojed:)04:19
maxwelllook throught the list of whats to be removed04:19
maestrojedgotcha. Thanks for the help!04:19
maxwellyou don't want to kill your system now do you?04:19
maxwell:D04:19
maestrojedIf this doesn't fix some of my more general issues I might!! I am starting with obvious errors04:20
maxwellmhm04:20
maxwellI see04:20
OerHeksanishparanjpe, sure, hold shift @ boot and choose previous kernel, if you need it.04:20
maxwelloperating systems do tend to get more buggy as time goes on04:21
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maxwellubuntu less than Windows of course, but still04:21
anishparanjpeDo i have to compile the proprietary drivers for the new kernel?04:21
bubbasauresanishparanjpe, You might name that "new kernel"04:22
lotuspsychjemaestrojed: nothing better then a fresh installed ubuntu04:22
OerHeksanishparanjpe, if you build your kernel yourself, you might run into issues we cannot help you with.04:23
lotuspsychje!kernel | anishparanjpe04:23
ubottuanishparanjpe: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)04:23
maestrojedlotuspsychje maxwell  :) I hear you. I do need to move from 12 to 1404:23
maxwellthat too04:23
lotuspsychjemaestrojed: 14.04 with ease up your life for sure..04:24
maestrojedyeah, still having issues.04:24
bubbasauresmaestrojed, Do you have a seperate home?04:24
ekoopo ae kah04:24
maestrojedSeems user/profile specific04:24
maestrojedbubbasaures what do you mean?04:25
AnuttymousUbuntu installed now, but still no mouse/pad cursor04:25
maestrojedit was bubbasaures  that earlier suggested I test the guest account which seems to work fine04:25
bubbasauresmaestrojed, User at times have root / and a home partition so installs can pick that up/04:25
maestrojedI get a "System program problem detected" when I log in. Inputs act all wonky and programs have issues in general04:26
maestrojedbubbasaures yes, I have a  user with a home dir of /home/mallory04:26
lotuspsychjewhats the trigger for indonesia?04:26
bubbasauresmaestrojed, In it's own partition?04:27
wizworksanyone try installing ubuntu (CLI only) on banana pi?04:27
maestrojedbubbasaures no04:27
bubbasauresmaestrojed, Ah, that was the key, you can move it to one their is a wiki, however lets see what the others think on this, if you want to.04:27
bubbasauresthere*04:27
Anuttymousstill no mouse/pad from xinput list04:28
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bubbasaureswizworks, that unit will run ubuntu, text is the easy part, be more clear on this.04:29
bubbasaureswizworks, With a desktop you would have to check it's specs, it's gotta be really light on the hardware end.04:31
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: did you doublecheck your bios for weird settings?04:31
AnuttymousWhat kind of weirdness should I be looking for?04:32
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: anything related to mouse or touchpad04:32
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: i recently formatted a medion akoya with ubuntu, had to disable fastboot and secureboot deep in bios options04:33
Anuttymousalready disabled04:33
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: try F1 at your usb ubuntu boot, to get more options04:33
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: maybe a no_acpi or nomodeset can fix?04:34
Anuttymoussecureboot wasn't. trying again04:34
anishparanjpeOerHeks: agreed, but I can still revert to my previous version anytime04:34
lotuspsychjeanishparanjpe: what are you trying to get working exactly?04:34
anishparanjpeI am trying to keep my kernel insync with the actual source04:35
lotuspsychjeanishparanjpe: you said something about a driver?04:35
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Anuttymousno luck. How do I go about no_acpi or nomodeset?04:36
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lotuspsychje!nomodeset | Anuttymous04:36
ubottuAnuttymous: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter04:36
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: try to hit F1 at ubuntu usb boot04:37
anishparanjpeYes, My wifi driver is propretiery. It won't be built from the kernel source. So, how can I tell my new kernel to load that driver at bootup04:37
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lotuspsychjeanishparanjpe: ubuntu version and wifi chipset + driver?04:37
anishparanjpe14.04 broadcom-4312 wl04:38
lotuspsychje!b43 | anishparanjpe04:38
ubottuanishparanjpe: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx04:38
lotuspsychjeanishparanjpe: maybe broadcoms need fixing04:38
AnuttymousF1 didn't seem to do anything04:38
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: this si the screen you need to get: http://i.stack.imgur.com/O2m9a.png04:40
anishparanjpeubottu: The website mentions opensource drivers. Should I go with them, or the ones on broadcoms website04:41
ubottuanishparanjpe: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:41
lotuspsychjeanishparanjpe: the ones working best, you need to try them out04:41
lotuspsychjeanishparanjpe: your additional drivers section doesnt show STA broadcom?04:42
anishparanjpeYes it does.04:42
lotuspsychjeanishparanjpe: did you try a switch from there?04:42
AnuttymousI can't seem to get to that screen04:42
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: hmmm, f1 or F604:43
Anuttymousnope04:43
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: normally F1 at purple ubuntu boot, should work04:44
anishparanjpeIt doesn't mention anything about free drivers. Either use the proprietory or none04:44
AnuttymousI am doing that. before it pulls up the load bar, whilst screen edge is purple04:44
lotuspsychjeanishparanjpe: ok, well check that b43 website, might solve04:46
GuyOn1GHi04:46
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: not sure mate, doublecheck bios for keys enabled or something?04:47
GuyOn1GWhat?04:47
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: this should work normally04:47
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: maybe put bios to defaults, might solve stuff?04:51
Anuttymousdoesn't seem to be getting anywhere04:53
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: and your mouse/touch works in win?04:54
AnuttymousYeah, just fine04:54
Nathan2055What is the name of the VBox Guest Additions package in the Ubuntu repo?04:54
undecimnobody1, The backlight was fixed by adding some lines to Xorg.conf04:55
undecimnobody1, First answer here has the lines: http://askubuntu.com/questions/476664/cannot-change-backlight-brightness-ubuntu-14-04 but I would put them in Xorg.conf, rather than a file in /usr/04:55
nobody1undecim thank you04:56
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: maybe its a kernel thing, you could try 14.10 maybe04:57
anishparanjpeI want to find all the modules that ubuntu installed apart from those in the kernel source. Is there a list of those modules?04:57
Anuttymouswhat's the fastest way to get 14.10?04:59
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: download it from ubuntu?04:59
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: and make a stick04:59
AnuttymousI'll give it a try then04:59
Anuttymousthanks for the help05:00
Nathan2055Never mind, I found it: virtualbox-guest-x1105:00
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nobody1undecim do you know how to fix the button not working for the brightness?05:00
lotuspsychjeAnuttymous: found a bug on it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233632&page=205:01
lotuspsychjeanishparanjpe: this can help you mate? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules05:01
lotuspsychjeanishparanjpe: man lsmod05:04
anishparanjpemodules.order does not contain proprietary drivers05:07
lotuspsychjeanishparanjpe: maybe the #ubuntu-devel guys might know more about it?05:08
FlumeRougeI am trying to search online about something for which I do not know the name: the search functionality (I'm running 14.04) which allows you to find apps/files/etc. on your system; I can launch it by pressing the system key (whatever that thing is between the Ctrl and Alt on my PC keyboard)?05:09
bubbasauresFlumeRouge, the dash in unity05:11
FlumeRouge@bubba: So, "Unity dash" ?05:11
bubbasauresFlumeRouge, Probably a good search use dash alone could show anything.05:12
undecimnobody1, There is a command for changing the brightness that can be mapped to the button05:13
nobody1undecim my fn+f4 and fn+f5 keys control the brightness but when i press it, nothing happens05:14
undecimnobody1, I think you will have to install xbacklight05:15
undecimnobody1, then, go to your Keyboard settings05:16
undecimnobody1, add a custom shortcut (the "+" below the list), use your brightness up key and map it to the command "xbacklight -inc 10" and map the brightness down key to "xbacklight -dec 10"05:17
undecimnobody1, You can change the "10" in the commands to whatever increment you prefer05:17
undecimMake sure you can change the brightness without the keys though05:17
undecimThrough the GUI05:17
nobody1undecim ok05:18
Magnus__I type cd / and I get the response rbash: cd: restricted. How do I fix?05:21
FlumeRougebubbasaures: danke05:22
bubbasauresFlumeRouge, no prob, enjoy.05:23
huhello05:28
hui donnot know hopw to do this05:29
lotuspsychje!ask | hu05:29
ubottuhu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:29
hui get it05:30
myl3laI love ubuntu ;)05:34
undecimmyl3la, You're in the right place then05:35
lotuspsychje!yay | myl3la05:35
ubottumyl3la: Glad you made it! :-)05:35
bubbasauresmyl3la, You have a habit of this, can we stick with support there is a off topic channel. ;)05:35
root________Help, I'm fixing someone's ubuntu 14.04, and in attempting to set a custom MAC address for a wired NIC, somehow network manager GUI has been nerfed so that it won't even attempt to start the NIC.  How can I reset it?  I can't access anything meaningful via GUI, so it has to be CLI05:41
lotuspsychje!info macchanger | root________05:42
ubotturoot________: macchanger (source: macchanger): utility for manipulating the MAC address of network interfaces. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.0-1.1 (utopic), package size 182 kB, installed size 641 kB (Only available for linux-any)05:42
root________lotuspsychje, thanks, lotuspsychje.  But the mac change is no longer needed.  Just need to purge the network manager configuration...05:43
root________want to reset network-manager to a pristine state.05:43
myl3labubbasaures, of course ;)05:43
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root________so the CORRECT answer was to manually remove the MAC addresses from the profiles in  /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections .05:52
root________locate -i networkmanager was enough to find those files and fix it.05:52
electricfredHi all. So new install of Ubuntu server from liveusb.  Blank screen on boot and suspect it's the gxf mode in grub.  How do I switch to text mode in the grub editor to try?05:54
undecimelectricfred, hold left shift on boot05:54
electricfredundecim,  nope.... screen still goes off.  I believe it machine is still running (Cl+alt+del still reboots the machine).  Same result in recovery mode from GRUB06:01
undecimelectricfred, Are you able to get the grub menu at all?06:01
electricfredyes.... f8 gets me to it, and I can get in to edit.  Just unsure the line structure to change, and how to make it stick for a boot to try.  I tried deleting the whole line, but no avail06:03
javnutI've got a usb mic, and pulse-audio picks it up (I see the measure moving when I speak) but audacity+recorder don't pick up the mic06:04
undecimjavnut, Checked the audacity prefs?06:05
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undecimelectricfred, there should be a line about gfx. Let me pull up my grub.cfg06:06
javnutundecim: I'm on there now, it lets me chose the recording device but there's like 20, and the labels don't help06:06
javnuthmmm. guess I got lucky06:07
undecimelectricfred, try adding "gfxpayload=text" at the end of the linux line.06:08
undecimelectricfred, when you find a successful boot config, we can make it permanent from the OS06:08
rimdekerHey guys, I just installed Ubuntu and my graphics card keeps running its fan on full speed using the AMD open source drivers. The quality of graphics are all dandy but I would kind of like to turn down the fan speed, manually if necessary. Is that possible?06:10
rimdekerMy graphics card is an AMD Radean HD 7770 and dmesg is following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9741750/06:10
electricfredundecim..... nada on that one either... I presume after adding the line, just the cntl-X will boot with the changes.06:12
undecimelectricfred, yes06:13
undecimelectricfred, you added a line?06:13
electricfredyes I did..... same result.  but let me try again06:14
undecimwhat line did you add?06:14
undecimthe gfxpayload=text should have gone on the same line as linux06:14
electricfredundecim, on the linux /boot line, yes that's where I put it.06:16
undecimelectricfred, you should get a live CD and make sure the logs indicate a successful boot06:17
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electricfredundecim,  would be nice... but the asus eeebox doesn't have a drive. usb only.  Used startdisk creator to make the bootable usb from duplicate machine w/ubuntu desktop.  What would I be looking for in the logs of the usb?06:20
undecimelectricfred, on the PC, you would look at /var/log/kern.log, and see if it has a successful boot06:21
undecimelectricfred, the existence of the file (if its not empty?) would indicate that the drive was mounted in read-write mode06:22
undecimelectricfred, which would indicate that the system is at getting paste the "most difficult" part of the boot process06:22
electricfredundecim,  hehe.... if I had a screen to see...06:23
undecimelectricfred, why can't you just use the same USB?06:23
ironfoot495Hello I really need help getting blue tooth to work for my wireless printer and other operations.06:25
cfhowlett!bluetooth | ironfoot49506:25
ubottuironfoot495: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup06:25
LordFoobar_hi, I want to start flashplayer (standalone) to run a SWF file, and I managed to install all dependencies, but now it fails with "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"". I'm running Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 LTE 64-bit, and Adobe's lousy player is 32-bit. I installed gtk2-engines:i386, but it does not fix the problem. Any help appreciated.06:26
ironfoot495thanks really aprecfate it.06:26
cfhowlettironfoot495, happy2help!06:26
boodllebatis GSOC contributuion > github contribution ?06:27
LordFoobar_right, found *that* solution here : https://ubuntutechnical.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/gtk-warning-unable-to-locate-theme-engine-in-module_path-pixmap/06:28
cfhowlettboodllebat, you'd have to ask google, but I suspect that gsoc stuff goes to a git06:28
LordFoobar_actually, I still have that error : "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"" :/06:28
electricfredundecim,  let me guess (i'm an idiot)... boot from the "rescue mode" of the install????06:28
boodllebatcfhowlett: so working on github repo is same as working on GSOC ?06:29
undecimelectricfred, no, just boot it like normal06:30
undecimelectricfred, Wait, this is a server USB installer?06:30
cfhowlettboodllebat, absolutely not.  git is a storage medium used by MANY developers/teams06:30
LordFoobar_stupid Adobe06:30
ironfoot495cfhowlett: I have another severe problem I can't get the cmd line to stick to the top display  do you know what I mean?06:30
electricfredundecim, yes it is....06:30
undecimelectricfred, use unetbootin and make one for the desktop version06:31
cfhowlettironfoot495, nope.  picture time06:31
cfhowlettironfoot495, i.e. send a screenshot06:31
undecimelectricfred, use that one as a liveUSB and check the logs06:31
boodllebatcfhowlett: for example contributing to mozzilla repo on GSOC is greater than contibuting on mozzilla repo on github ?06:31
LordFoobar_can't even make something that works06:31
cfhowlettboodllebat, suggest you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic06:32
ironfoot495no matter  what I do  the command line is soppose to be seen at the top but it does not????06:32
boodllebatcfhowlett: can i talk to you in privte ?06:32
undecimLordFoobar_, as an easy fix, try installing 32-bit version in VirtualBox06:32
undecimLordFoobar_, Performance might suck, though.06:32
cfhowlettironfoot495, no.  each command and feedback goes UNDER the previous one ... terminal standard behavior06:33
LordFoobar_undecim, yeah, performance is critical here06:33
cfhowlettboodllebat, nothing more I can add to your discussion.  sorry.  #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux would know more06:33
undecimLordFoobar_, Or, make a basic web page that just loads the swf06:33
ironfoot495wait one06:33
undecimLordFoobar_, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/137326/how-to-embed-a-swf-file-in-a-html-page06:34
LordFoobar_undecim, haha thanks. I know how to load a swf in a web page, unfortunately, this one does not load in a browser06:34
boodllebatcfhowlett: oh Thank You for your time06:34
electricfredundecim, ah... think I gotcha...  yes, have a 2nd identical machine with the desktop installed (took me a while on that install as well b4 it worked, but same solution didn't apply to server)06:35
cfhowlettboodllebat, happy2help!06:35
undecimwhat was the fix for desktop?06:35
sherlock_regusi accidentally dd my hard disk06:35
undecimelectricfred,  what was the fix for desktop?06:35
sherlock_regusi had win 8 and ubntu06:35
EriC^^sherlock_regus: how long did it run>06:35
ironfoot495cfhowlett:06:36
cfhowlettironfoot495, eth?06:36
sherlock_regusnot much06:36
sherlock_reguswithina  sec06:36
sherlock_regusbut now i installed ubuntu in it06:36
sherlock_regusbut my win 8 in ssd is not accessable06:37
sherlock_regusthe win boot file was in the hard disk06:37
undecimLordFoobar_, You probably need a libcanberra package06:37
sherlock_regusafter it was dd i couldnt install any win version on it06:37
cfhowlettsherlock_regus, ask ##windows06:37
electricfredundecim,  was put on to the  acpi=off and nomodeset options... while individually they didn't work, I check'd all the options and that gave me a working boot on the vga.  just had to let the first boot churn for 4 minutes before the screen came back06:38
EriC^^sherlock_regus: you mean win is on another hd?06:38
EriC^^sherlock_regus: do you mean that grub doesn't find windows?06:38
undecimelectricfred, shouldn't be any different for the server edition06:38
sherlock_regusyup06:39
EriC^^sherlock_regus: ok, are you in ubuntu right now?06:39
sherlock_regusyup06:40
sherlock_regusi cant boot to win06:40
rimdekerHey guys, I just installed Ubuntu and my graphics card keeps running its fan on full speed using the AMD open source drivers. The quality of graphics are all dandy but I would kind of like to turn down the fan speed, manually if necessary. Is that possible?06:40
rimdekerMy graphics card is an AMD Radean HD 7770 and dmesg is following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9741750/06:40
EriC^^ok, type sudo parted -l and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com06:40
EriC^^sherlock_regus: ^06:40
LordFoobar_undecim, I think I fixed that as I don't get the GTK error anymore. But I get this one : "(flashplayer:742): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance with invalid (NULL) class pointer", then "(flashplayer:742): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_handlers_disconnect_matched: assertion 'G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed"06:41
undecimLordFoobar_, Why wont it run in the browser?06:42
sherlock_regushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9742101/06:44
sherlock_regusEriC^^,06:44
EriC^^sherlock_regus: this is really odd06:45
sherlock_regusis there no way out06:45
EriC^^sherlock_regus: you have gpt and an efi partition, and on the other disk it's msdos ( the one with ubuntu )06:46
cfhowlettEriC^^, 315mb "basic data" ??? I thought windows restore partition, but that should some GB not 315 mb06:46
LordFoobar_undecim, don't know :) I didn't code it. And so far, it should run in a projector. I managed to run a Windows Flash projector with Wine. The SWF loads. heh06:46
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sherlock_regusi have made a ntfs partition06:47
sherlock_regusi gave ubuntu 120 gb06:47
ubottuUbuntu bug 120 in Launchpad itself "removing acoli from my languages list and saving gets me a system error" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12006:47
electricfredundecim, you would think it wouldn't be different.  looking at the USB and can't see any logs.  Where would they be?06:48
undecimelectricfred, They will be in /var/log on the hard drive of the PC06:48
EriC^^cfhowlett: yeah06:48
undecimsherlock_regus, if you do "sudo update-grub", does it mention Windows?06:48
cfhowlettEriC^^, then again: gtp, ssd + hdd combo ... I'm not familiar with the newer install options.  just looks odd to me06:49
EriC^^sherlock_regus: what you can do is set uefi enabled in the bios06:49
Novice201yHi. How can I choose which ciphers I want to be used for specific SSH connection?06:49
EriC^^cfhowlett: yeah definitely something is odd06:50
sherlock_regusundecim, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9742190/06:50
sherlock_regusEriC^^, uefi is already set to enable06:50
undecimNovice201y, the "Cipher" directive in your ssh config?06:50
sherlock_regusotherwise i cant boot into ubuntu06:50
undecimsherlock_regus, you should be able to boot Windows just fine.06:51
undecimsherlock_regus, If it wasn't showing up in the boot list before, that update command just added it06:51
maxton93hi all06:51
sherlock_regusi had this prob b406:51
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sherlock_reguskk i'll be back06:52
sherlock_reguspls wait06:52
Novice201yundecim: Thanks.06:52
EriC^^sherlock_regus: hold on06:52
EriC^^sherlock_regus: ok06:52
sherlock_reguswhat happened EriC^^06:52
sherlock_regusi want to check whether the grub is updated06:53
EriC^^sherlock_regus: type sudo efibootmgr -v06:53
maxton93There's a way to print a web page in landascape mode pdf with Ubuntu? (AKA, there's an alternative to option-less CUP-PDF ?)06:53
undecimmaxton93, In Firefox, I have a "Print to File" option06:54
EriC^^sherlock_regus: are you booting the disk that has windows or the second one?06:54
sherlock_regushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9742221/06:54
sherlock_regusi am booting the second disk06:54
maxton93undecim that option doesn't call CUPS-PDF?06:54
undecimmaxton93, I have no idea... what does it matter?06:55
sherlock_regusEriC^^, actually i had this prob b406:55
cfhowlettmaxton93, of course.  from ff, print > Page setup > Paper > orientation > landscape06:55
EriC^^sherlock_regus: ok, restart looks like it might work06:55
undecimmaxton93, I think it's a firefox thing06:55
cfhowlettmaxton93, Print to File06:55
electricfredundecim, well hittin midnight, thnx for the help.  4 days at this & txt gettin blurry...LOL.  may pick this up 2morrow.  Cheers06:56
sherlock_reguswhen i installed ubutnu06:56
maxton93cfholett I don't have "print to file" in my printers page...06:57
sherlock_regusso i did a boot repair at that time06:57
EriC^^sherlock_regus: did it work?06:57
cfhowlettmaxton93, FIREFOX > file > print ...06:57
sherlock_regusi have not done it yet06:57
EriC^^sherlock_regus: i think your good, but your setup is one of the oddest i've seen here06:57
sherlock_regusactaully i'm downloading  something so its gonna fifnish soon06:57
sherlock_regusso i was waiting for it to finish06:58
sherlock_regusi know06:58
sherlock_regusi think its with the ultrabook series06:58
EriC^^sherlock_regus: you're using the efi partition on disk 1 to boot ubuntu which is on a msdos disk06:58
EriC^^pretty cool that it works though06:59
sherlock_regusso when i reboot should i disable the uefi06:59
EriC^^no you need that06:59
sherlock_reguskk06:59
maxton93cfhowlett the page in question is a flash brochure that call the minified version of system printers ("print to file" it's nont available in that window, only phisical printer and cups...)07:02
cfhowlettmaxton93, sorry, can't help then.07:02
maxton93cfhowlett There's an alterative-to-cups virtual printer package in ubuntu/debian repo?07:04
cfhowlettmaxton93, never used anything like that.  I print pdf's from the browswer all the time with just FFox and ubuntu.07:05
maxton93cfhowlett so do I07:05
maxton93cfhowlett Till now that I nedd a landscape pdf print....07:05
maxton93cfhowlett *need07:06
lotuspsychjemaxton93: there are many online pdf editors07:06
maxton93lotuspsychje would you manually rotate 100 pdf pages, instead of printing landscape mode in the first place?07:13
sherlock_regusEriC^^, didnt work07:15
sherlock_regusits till the same07:15
sherlock_regusit showed no such device found07:15
sherlock_regusand a serial id07:15
sherlock_regusand grub rescue07:15
cfhowlettmaxton93, wait, that's the issue?  print those puppies and then use ghostscript to rotate.  EZ07:16
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maxton93cfhowlett I think loose half of the resolution....07:21
cfhowlettmaxton93, suggest you test: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3089773/how-to-change-page-orientation-of-pdf-ghostscript-or-postsscript-solution-need07:21
maxton93cfhowlett thanks, I'll take a look07:22
cfhowlettmaxton93, this line:  gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile="page2rot.pdf" -dNOPAUSE -dEPSCrop -c "<</Orientation 0>> setpagedevice" -f "page2.pdf" -c quit can you see an issue with this? –  Pureferret Apr 19 '12 at 13:3807:22
sherlock_regusEriC^^,07:23
maxton93cfhowlett It's a known bug, CUP-PDF doesn't use gs for rendering.....07:23
cfhowlettmaxton93, OK, but once you HAVE the pdf, you can manipulate with GS ... right?07:24
cfhowlettmaxton93, and to GS a collection of 100, should be pretty simple07:24
maxton93cfhowlett yep, but once print in pdf, the image it's half of the original resolution....07:25
cfhowlettmaxton93, ah.  didn't not know that.07:25
skweekhow do I get a device to load a certian driver?07:26
maxton93cfhowlett landscape page printed in portrait pdf end with half resolution, no matter what gs do after print...07:26
cfhowlettmaxton93, ow.  so ... convert to image, rotate, convert back to pdf?  wonky, I know but ...07:27
maxton93<cfhowlett image is still of the same resolution of the half-pdf...07:28
cfhowlettmaxton93, outside my area of "expertise" then - sorry07:28
skweekdoes anyone know how to get a device to load a certian driver?07:29
bubbasauresskweek, rather open ended, can you be specific?07:30
maxton93cfhowlett anyway, if there's really no virtual printer alternatives to CUPS-PDF , I'll go with the windows-adobe way....07:31
skweeka usb device to load a dm9601.ko ?07:31
bubbasauresskweek, This a usb wifi and have you been here before on this?07:32
skweeki've been working on this for a week07:33
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skweekmade some progress but still can't figure out some steps07:33
bubbasauresskweek, I believe everyone tried to help, and asked it not be addressed again, is this correct?07:33
skweekyes and no07:33
bubbasauresskweek, Please respect the channel for this, we do not do miracles. ;)07:34
skweekdo you know how to load a device with a driver?07:34
skweekright07:34
skweek?07:34
skweekdo you know how to get a device to pick up a driver?07:35
bubbasauresskweek, I have no idea, I saw others with all the skills needed not fix it, nothing I could do.07:35
skweeka few days ago I was looking at binding the device to load a driver but hadn't figured out how to do that07:35
skweekokies07:36
maxton93cfhowlett thanks for help (to all) ...bye07:36
bubbasauresskweek, Plenty of cheap usb ubuntu plug and play, you can take the radio shack loss in linux get one that works.07:37
skweeki'm sorry bubbasaures, that isn't an option07:37
sacarlsonskweek: I was able to get a usb device called nocturn to work with a custom driver using some tools in python07:37
sacarlsonskweek: it at least teaches you the methods and what is needed to get a driver to work07:38
bubbasauresskweek, Bummer, I do wish you the best of luck.07:38
EriC^^sherlock_regus: you there07:40
sherlock_regusya07:41
EriC^^ok type sudo apt-get install pastebinit07:41
EriC^^then type sudo parted -l | pastebinit07:41
sherlock_regushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9742749/07:42
skweeksacarlson, that's interesting07:42
EriC^^sherlock_regus: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt07:43
EriC^^sherlock_regus: wait, try to select the first disk in the bios07:44
EriC^^sherlock_regus: if you press esc or something, you shoud get a boot options menu that says ubuntu and maybe os manager07:44
sherlock_regusEriC^^,07:45
sacarlsonskweek: I'm not sure what you tried already but it looks like it's already been done http://askubuntu.com/questions/116615/davicom-dm9601-usb-lan-nic-ubuntu-11-10-issue07:45
sherlock_reguswhen had this prob the first time i did a startup repair using win 7 live cd07:45
omkar30hello07:45
sherlock_regusso i should get into multiboot options07:45
sherlock_regus??07:46
omkar30Is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS using pendrive... as in apt could detect pendrive as an medium and use its packages to update the machine07:46
EriC^^sherlock_regus: you're sure you're booting in uefi mode?07:46
sherlock_regusya07:46
sherlock_regusof course07:46
EriC^^ok, and you get grub07:47
EriC^^?07:47
sherlock_regusya07:47
EriC^^is there a windows entry07:47
sherlock_regusya sda207:47
EriC^^ok, when you press that what happens07:47
sherlock_regusit shows no such device found and a long serial key type code07:48
EriC^^ok, i think you need to repair it using a win cd07:48
sherlock_reguskk07:48
sherlock_reguswin 7 or 807:48
Stephen_ReevesI'm having a problem with my swap file http://paste.ubuntu.com/9742821/07:49
EriC^^if you're running win8, win8 cd i guess07:49
sherlock_regusbut last time i used win 707:49
sherlock_regusto repair07:49
sherlock_reguskk first i'll try with win807:50
EriC^^sherlock_regus: ok, i've no idea about that07:50
bubbasauressherlock_regus, Kinda a funky setup sda gpt, sdb msdos07:50
EriC^^sherlock_regus: yeah, probably best to use win807:50
sherlock_reguswill that repair affect my  ubuntu07:50
bubbasauresgpt table antway07:51
EriC^^sherlock_regus: no, it shouldn't07:51
sherlock_reguskk07:51
EriC^^sherlock_regus: if it does, it's not a big deal07:51
EriC^^you'll reinstall grub-efi07:51
sherlock_regushow??07:51
EriC^^sherlock_regus: boot a live usb, chroot and reinstall07:52
sherlock_regusreinstall the whole ubuntu07:52
EriC^^no, just grub07:52
sherlock_reguscan u give me the commands07:52
sherlock_regusactually i'm not familiar with it07:53
EriC^^do you have a live usb ready?07:53
sherlock_regusnot now07:53
sacarlsonStephen_Reeves: did you read this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/544054/ubuntu-14-04-wont-turn-swap-on-at-boot07:53
EriC^^make one, and fix windows07:53
sherlock_reguskk07:53
EriC^^if it doesn't work boot the live usb and come back here07:53
sherlock_regusu'll be here??07:53
sherlock_reguskk07:54
EriC^^yes and if im not many can help you with it07:54
EriC^^dont worry07:54
sherlock_regusno the prob is i 'll have to expalin the whole thing again07:54
sherlock_regusand u know abt this very well by now07:54
Stephen_Reevessacarlson, what's the command to see all of your partitions?07:55
sacarlsonStephen_Reeves: there are several methods one being the old way I think is sudo fdisk -l07:56
gully-foylehey guys, newbie here. how do I encrypt select folders in a external hard drive in ubuntu 14.10?08:00
EriC^^sherlock_regus: no big deal, explain the situation briefly and you should be good08:01
EriC^^gully-foyle: you can use encfs08:01
gully-foyledo I have to install it?08:02
gully-foyleI can't find it08:02
bubbasauresgully-foyle, encryption id fine if needed, however if you have issues you are most likely not going to retrieve.08:09
bubbasauresis*08:09
bubbasaures!bootinfo | sherlock_regus I would run this and have the scripts output available.08:11
ubottusherlock_regus I would run this and have the scripts output available.: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Please run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then !pastebin the RESULTS.txt for us to use to help diagnose your problem.08:11
eth0yop08:13
Stephen_Reeveswho was just helping me?08:13
Stephen_Reeveswhoever it was, I appreciate it. That fixed the problem08:13
sherlock_regusbubbasaures, ubottu http://paste.ubuntu.com/9743131/08:19
EriC^^gully-foyle: yeah you need to install it08:20
EriC^^gully-foyle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption08:21
bubbasauressherlock_regus, have you tried having sdb first read in the bios? Not sure if possible in   uefi bios08:21
bubbasaureswould assume so08:21
sherlock_regusyup08:22
bubbasauressherlock_regus, Ubuntu at this point is not booting right? I am aware of your loss of W8.08:22
sherlock_regusubuntu is booting08:23
sherlock_regusright now i'm in it08:23
bubbasauressherlock_regus, THe install?08:23
sherlock_reguspardon08:23
sherlock_regusi didnt get u08:24
bubbasauressherlock_regus, Is the ubuntu install on sdb booting?08:24
sherlock_regusya08:24
bubbasauressherlock_regus, Honestly that is a setup that is much harder than it needs to be, what is the end goal the windows reinstall?08:25
bubbasauressherlock_regus, Yo\u have a msdos ubuntu and a ubuntu efi in sda08:27
francesco_hi08:28
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bubbasauresfrancesco_, no ware here08:28
francesco_ok08:28
francesco_come entro grazie08:29
bubbasauressherlock_regus,Honestly if it were me I would wipe everything and set up both HD's as gpt or msdos and get set up correct, just enough varibles there to put you in a situation like this, windows my still be there I see missing bcd boot stuff as well.08:32
bubbasauresmay*08:32
bubbasauressda4 looks to be where it was08:33
bubbasauresor still is08:33
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OerHeksred_, did you read the topic?08:50
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quackgyverMan, every single time I decide to give Ubuntu another chance, it somehow manages to break during some vital initial step despite my following the instructions to exact detail.08:51
quackgyverI just installed the latest LTS ver, updated, rebooted then started following the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP08:51
quackgyverbut upon running "apache2" I get08:52
quackgyverAH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:08:52
quackgyverInvalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}08:52
quackgyverI've googled it but still can't get it to work.08:52
nusri think my libreoffice is corrupted. i can open csv in python and r but i can't open it manually to inspect. the data formatting has chinese characters08:52
somsipquackgyver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452042/why-is-my-apache-not-working-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-14-0408:54
OerHeksnusr, it is an openoffice/libroffice calc file, do there are controlcharacters in it.08:55
nusri tried uninstalling and reinstalling but i'm still getting chinese character of the data all in one line08:55
nusr0erHeks: where can i find it? i did whereis LibreCalc and just got LibreCalc back08:56
ayushgpE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)08:56
ayushgpE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:56
ayushgpI'm getting this error while using sudo apt-get install. How do I fix it?08:56
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somsipayushgp: close any other program that's also using apt-get or software centre08:56
onlaim trying to run this one script on startup but it is not getting run when I put it in /etc/init.d/ and changed it to +x. The script has lines #! /bin/sh and xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap08:56
nusr0erHeks: ok i figured it out..somehow it got switched to unicode08:57
bubbasauresayushgp, software or synaptic open, or did you stop any install while running?08:57
OerHeksnusr, ah nice08:57
ayushgpmany thanks somsip! It worked!08:57
somsiponla: should be in rc.local possibly?08:57
nusrOerHeks: thanks08:57
bubbasauresayushgp, Ubuntu software center08:57
ablest1980hi08:58
ablest1980i have a question08:58
quackgyversomsip: Wow, I can't believe I didn't find that page when I spent all of yesterday troubleshooting08:58
ablest1980whats best ebook reader for ubuntu?08:58
quackgyverOne question though08:58
ablest1980the adobe reader of ubuntu08:58
quackgyverit says to edit that page08:58
quackgyverdoes it mean that you should edit the /var/www/html string?08:58
bubbasauresablest1980, best is an opinion08:58
quackgyveror just open and close it08:58
somsipquackgyver: edit it08:58
ablest1980most popular then08:58
somsip!best | ablest198008:59
ablest1980!best08:59
nusranyone know when ubuntu phone is coming out?08:59
cfhowlettsomsip, sadly, that factoid is no more08:59
cfhowlettnusr, "when it's done"08:59
ablest1980ubuntu phone coming?08:59
somsip!touch | nusr (try OMG Ububuntu site for news)08:59
bubbasaures!touch | nusr08:59
ubottunusr (try OMG Ububuntu site for news): Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch08:59
ubottunusr: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch08:59
quackgyversomsip: The file or the string? :p08:59
somsipcfhowlett: ubottu tells me this...oh well, thanks08:59
quackgyverI mean, should I just open and save it08:59
quackgyveror change the string08:59
ablest1980!best | ablest198009:00
somsipquackgyver: edit the file and change what it says on that page09:00
bubbasauresablest1980, we don't do best here, however you can address a reader.09:00
ablest1980np ty09:00
quackgyversomsip: It just says "So edit to modify this file" and then to restart Apache, but it doesn't actually state whether I should edit anything within the file or to just open, save and close it.09:00
bubbasaurespeople will help is all09:01
quackgyverI'm new to Linux so I need to know what to do specifically09:01
somsipbubbasaures: actually...as cfhowlett says, that factoid and all related ones have been deleted. So maybe the ops are up for discussions in here. I'd hope not though, so I'd still recommend #ubuntu-offtopic for it09:01
bubbasauressomsip, That's fine just trying to be supportive under the sytem in place. ;)09:02
onlasomsip: ok I try there. I will see when I boot next time, i don't bother to boot now )09:02
somsipbubbasaures: I can see - just trying to figure out what we should do now the factoid has changed. I guess I'll just ignore best/poll requests as it's not clear what the ops expect now09:02
bubbasauressomsip, I generally do sounds lika plan.09:03
lukblackDoCToR46.bLaCkDr4g0n.NeT09:04
bubbasauresmmmm spam where that toast09:04
somsipbubbasaures: discussions that start with that question usually descent into a miasma of OT followup questions...each to their own though, until the ops shout at us. Anyway...OT myself here09:04
bubbasauresyeah it does. ;)09:05
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quackgyverOk so I did what http://askubuntu.com/questions/452042/why-is-my-apache-not-working-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-14-04 suggested and it still doesn't work09:07
quackgyverI'm still getting:09:07
quackgyverAH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:09:07
quackgyverInvalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}09:07
somsipquackgyver: how are you 'running' apache2?09:09
quackgyversomsip: I don't know. I don't know anything about Linux. All I know is that I installed Ubuntu and followed the instructions specified on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP09:09
quackgyverand when I get to "Installing Apache 2" I get that error09:10
somsipquackgyver: you've said you get the error message when you run apache2. What do you do immediately prior to getting that error message?09:10
quackgyversomsip: Oh. I type "apache2" into the console.09:10
somsipquackgyver: don't. Just do sudo service apache2 start (or restart). No idea why apache2 is on it's own on that wiki as a suggested command.09:11
quackgyversomsip: Okay, that worked. But it says "Installing Apache2", and you are talking about merely starting it. Does this mean that apache2 is already installed at this point?09:12
somsipquackgyver: and if the guide is not clear, sudo apt-get install apache2 will install it09:12
somsipquackgyver: you tell me - it's your computer.09:12
quackgyversomsip: Well, I just followed the instructions as specified on that page.09:13
quackgyverSo I don't know.09:13
somsipquackgyver: if you install lamp-server^ in the second step, then it should be installed. Either way, is it doing what you want now?09:14
quackgyversomsip: Ah, that explains it. Then I guess it's already installed09:14
quackgyverAnd yeah it started up properly now09:14
quackgyverNo errors09:14
quackgyverSomeone should fix that Wiki page I think :/09:15
somsipquackgyver: you were not reading the guide. the section 'Installing Apache 2' starts with "To only install the apache2 webserver..." and as you had already installed the full lamp stack, you did not need to do this09:15
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ubuntu586Hi all, I have a weird, obscure problem. Apparently, Korean input (ibus-hangul) works on certain locales but not others, at least on my computer (vanilla install of Ubuntu 14.10).09:16
ubuntu586I've tested this on two different computers (both with fresh installs), so this seems to be reproducible.09:16
quackgyverWell, I think clarifications would be in place. Pages like these can be overwhelming for newbies since it requires you to simultaneously interpret a lot of new facts and terms.09:17
quackgyverBut yeah you are right.09:17
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ubuntu586On the other hand, some other computers that I have access to, which (probably) were upgraded from 14.04 don't seem to have this problem.09:18
ubuntu586Any ideas?09:19
somsipubuntu586: with it being weird and obscure, you may find reporting a bug gets you a response. Less likely there is someone in here with the same use case as you09:20
ubuntu586somsip: Yeah, I figured.... Well, I figured there's no harm in trying.09:20
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somsipubuntu586: indeed09:20
weblydzI am not Charlie, I am Muslim Against Killings --> http://adf.ly/wDL4i09:22
ikoniaweblydz: please don't post that sort of content09:22
ikoniathat is not this channels goal09:22
weblydzok09:22
cfhowlettwebbyz, that's nice but off topic here09:23
ikonia!topic | weblydz09:23
ubottuweblydz: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic09:23
weblydzsorry09:23
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blueingressHi,I have problem...when I execute the command "scp file1 user1@host2".... what happen? where will the file go in host2?09:24
EriC^^blueingress: to your home dir09:24
ikoniablueingress: it won't09:24
ikoniayou need a : on the end09:24
ikoniaor it will just go to a file called user1@host2 on your local machine09:24
EriC^^blueingress: you can specify by user@host:/path/to/destination09:24
blueingressikonia EriC^^, SO nothing happened?09:25
EriC^^blueingress: if you didn't have a : at the end no09:25
EriC^^( i dont think so, did you get any error? )09:25
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blueingressEriC^^, Thanks, I just afraid that the file is important, that it has been placed to somewhere I don't know.09:26
blueingressEriC^^, no error...09:26
EriC^^blueingress: i think it was copied to your local pc then as user1@host209:26
EriC^^in the dir you were in09:26
blueingressEriC^^, ^-^ yes..09:27
ikoniabecause you missed :09:27
blueingressikonia, :-) that is right.09:28
IndustrialHi.09:33
IndustrialI have configured a different window manager then Unity. I now have Xmonad running.09:33
IndustrialI would like to start 2 bash files when I log in from GDM09:34
IndustrialHow do i do that?09:34
IndustrialI used to use .xinitrc with the startx command without GDM, but that was not on ubuntu, and I'd rather keep GDM now because.. easy..09:34
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stevenmis there another way of accomplishing     echo hello | sudo tee /file    without it printing also to stdout?09:38
Fuchsstevenm: yes, don't be silly by using tee.   sudo sh -c "echo foo > file"09:39
Fuchsstevenm: or >>, note that > will overwrite the contents of file.09:39
stevenmFuchs, yeah I've seen that method used on the suse build service thing - I didn't think relaying on sh would be good though09:41
Fuchsa lot better than relying on tee09:42
Fuchswhy do you think it's a bad idea to rely on something as basic as sh?09:42
stevenmwell the original sh is deprecated - but i guess these days you don't know what it's pointed at09:42
FuchsSo?09:43
Fuchsif a shell misbehaves with something as simple as echo foo > bar, the distribution linking sh to such a misbehaving shell shouldn't exist in the first place.09:43
Fuchsit's standardized good enough for your use case, if the distribution breaks it, it's the distributions problem. Tee is a lot less likely to work than sh is.09:44
stevenmFuchs, so lets say you're doing 2 lines at once     sudo sh -c "echo -e "line1\nline2" > /file"09:44
stevenmnot only are you not sure if whatever sh is pointed at has -e in its version of echo - but you've had to quote inside quotes09:44
stevenmtbh i'd rather just have a silent tee09:45
Fuchsas said: it's standardized good enough for your use case, while you have exactly zero guarantee that the distribution offers tee in the standard configuration. So by going with your argumentation the tee solution is even worse.09:45
stevenmi guess I can silence tee anyway by just redirecting it's output09:45
Fuchsthen use a different command, because that behaviour is exactly what tee is for09:46
stevenmFuchs, using sh - would you put ' inside " or " inside ' or use the same?09:46
ppfis this an appropriate place for pulseaudio questions?09:46
ppfi'm frequently seeing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9744204/09:46
stevenmppf, probably better #pulseaudio09:46
Fuchsppf: there is #pulseaudio for specific ones, but ubuntu related: sure09:46
Fuchsstevenm: I'd probably do it per line just to make sure it works09:47
stevenmFuchs, meh that's worse.. i've got things that make a desktop icon is one line (as a .desktop is just 6 lines)09:47
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stevenm*in09:47
Fuchsstevenm: it depends on whether I know what the target distributions include. If I don't know that, tee is the very last thing I'd use, I'd only go with built-ins and standards such as sh then. Or maybe cat (which is something you could use, btw) which is also standardish enough, compared to tee09:47
stevenmah so    echo meow | sudo cat /file     would work?09:48
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Fuchsstevenm: missing a > after the cat09:49
stevenmyeah doesn't work09:50
stevenmshame though - although tbh that's alot more obvious to use than tee, it'd be in use in lots of "howto" pages if it did work09:50
Fuchsand I'd still go with sudo sh - c09:50
Fuchs-c, even09:50
Fuchsit's more standardized than tee is, so if you worry about not knowing what installed on the target system, it is more likely to work. You could use printf instead of echo, if you care about multilines, or just go with something that should work in sh09:51
Fuchsor go line by line, if you want it as failsafe as possible09:52
stevenmFuchs, sudo sh -c 'echo "meow\nmeow" > /filedd'09:53
stevenminterestingly that doesn't require -e09:53
stevenmbut still works09:53
stevenmoddly if you add in -e    then -e itself gets writtin in to the file09:53
stevenmweird09:53
Fuchsprobably depends on the implementation of echo, I only have a zsh at hand to test09:54
* FrankD yawns09:54
* Fuchs fills coffee into the open FrankD09:54
stevenmFuchs, could it be because \n is expanded before sending to sh ?09:54
Fuchsstevenm: should not with ' around the command, that should be interpreted by the shell executing it09:55
Fuchsstevenm: with ": yes. With ': shouldn't09:55
Fuchsbu some shells behave a bit odd09:55
stevenmhmm odd then09:55
stevenmi'll stick with tee I guess09:56
Fuchsthen you could just redirect STDOUT to /dev/null. I personally think this is a tinkered workaround at best, but as I don't know your usecase ...09:56
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f3lixRather than editing Samba's main smb.conf file, can you refer to an external configuration file, or drop a configuration file at a specific location (possibly with a specific extension) to have it read alongside the main conf?10:06
f3lix(for the server)10:06
f3lixI mean, AFAICT the include statement belongs to a section… I'd like to include a file with settings in different sections, including [global]10:13
gagalicious: Sub-process returned an error code10:18
gagalicioushow to see error log?10:18
f3lixdmesg | tail, or tail /var/log/kern.log10:19
f3lixusually10:19
f3lixdepends on the process10:19
gagalicioushow do i clear dmesg previous messages10:20
f3lixyou can't. and there's no need. is it because you're looking for something specific? if so, grep for it, e.g. "dmesg | grep SOME_NAME"10:21
f3lixif you need to scroll text in a TTY, you can use Shift+PgUp10:22
dionysus69hey guys my nautilus hangs when I start a folder of any kind and takes 20 seconds or something to start, any ideas why ?10:22
f3lixdionysus69: could be a broken network mount?10:22
f3lixdionysus69: does "df" or "mount" in a terminal hang as well?10:23
dionysus69f3lix: when I start a program called files, without opening any specific network, just the home directory10:23
dionysus69f3lix: nope they dont hang10:23
f3lixdionysus69: well, if it's nautilus hanging, it may still be a broken mount even if you're not using it10:24
dionysus69where would that mount be ? how do I remove it ?10:24
f3lixdionysus69: oh, ok, well then it's probably not that. don't really know anything about nautilus per se, sorry :/10:24
f3lixdionysus69: well, since df doesn't hang, it's not that. just happened a lot to me, so it was worth a try ;)10:24
dionysus69f3lix: hmm ok thanks anyway :D10:24
f3lix:)10:25
saleemmy dell e6500 laptop has lspci | grep VGA10:29
saleem01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] (rev a1) , i installed nvidia-current package from precise repos but the driver does not work , how do i fix this issue?10:29
saleemi installed nvidia -current driver from synaptic because jockey failed to download it10:31
cristian_cHello10:31
f3lixsaleem: You might want to try one of the explicit version. In 14.10, -current installs v304. Check which ones you have available (apt-cache search nvidia). For instance, I have both 310 and 319 versions available10:31
saleembut the driver is not working for me10:31
cristian_cHow can i browse in a mailing list archive via ubuntu?10:31
cristian_cAny ideas?10:31
saleemf3lix, thanks i will give it a try10:32
f3lixsaleem: And I think you should explicitly uninstall the one you have now (apt-get purge nvidia-current)10:32
f3lixnp10:32
saleemf3lix, nvidia-current on precise install v304 for me through synaptic10:33
f3lixsaleem:  Yup, here too. You can try nvidia-310 or nvidia-319 instead (the latter is a development version, so you should probably try -310 first)10:34
f3lixsaleem: apt-get update && apt-get install -y nvidia-310 && apt-get purge nvidia-current10:34
saleemthanks i will try both one by one10:34
ppfthe latest driver is 340, you could also try that one10:34
f3lixsaleem: Don't forget to reboot — there are kernel modules compiled when you install. You did reboot after installing -current, right?10:35
saleemf3lix, yes once i have installed a driver i will reboot10:35
f3lixcool ;)10:35
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_root_the new pentadactyl for FF 35 http://a.pomf.se/snnpfb.xpi10:53
_root_enjoy10:53
sumikanI'm using LXDE on ubuntu 14.0410:56
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sumikanso, sometimes Logout message can't  be displayed from power button on right side. does anyone resolve this phenomenon?10:57
gualirc 127.0.0.110:58
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sumikanwhy not use the power button on right down side taskbar?11:00
everyunclear11:01
everyuntest11:01
sumikandoes anyone resolve it? has anyone see same situation?11:04
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[Arab]1706 members!11:11
BluesKajHiyas all11:12
OerHekshi BluesKaj11:13
BluesKajhey OerHeks11:13
mittHi guys, maybe it's a little bit offtopic but is there an application that works like polkit but doesn't use systemd as dependency? thanks11:14
ingsochow do you add bash completion for other commands.  I have a completion script for something else, how do i enable this in ubuntu ?11:15
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AndChat228864Hi till which version wubi is fully functional?11:18
DeepfriediceAndChat228864: Why?11:19
mittAndChat228864: Wubi is dead nah?11:19
AndChat228864I need that Ubuntu is to install inside win711:19
DeepfriediceWubi was killed off for a reason: AFAIK it never worked particularly well.11:20
DeepfriediceI'll check though.11:20
AndChat228864It worked before nah? I will download that version ok.tell me please11:20
mitttheir official site redirecting me to ubuntu site11:21
mitthttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/wubi/20130401/ try this11:22
AndChat228864Thanks man11:22
OerHeksAndChat228864, you can install with wubi on your win7, but it is not recommended for production11:22
DeepfriediceI'm looking, but in the mean time what do you need Wubi for?11:22
mittyeah really, why not to take cd or usb11:23
mittor vbox11:23
DeepfriediceAccording to Wikipedia, Ubuntu 12.04 was the last to support it.11:23
AndChat228864Man I know its not gud idea but I need it ok.in my PC USB is not working then how can I install without wubi? Now understood?11:23
mittback then try the link11:24
AndChat228864Tried @mitt thanks11:25
AndChat228864Thanks all11:25
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DeepfriediceActually, I think I found a Wubi build for 13.0411:25
Deepfriedicehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/wubi/current/11:25
DeepfriediceAgain, what do you want this for?11:25
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breadmonsterHow do I install GNOME on Ubuntu 14.04?11:26
mitt@Deepfriedence he said he doesn't have working usb or cd drives11:26
breadmonsterFrom the software center, yeah?11:26
mitt@breadmonster the easiest way11:26
breadmonstermitt: And then what? restart or log out?11:28
mitt@breadmonster it's better to restart but not required11:28
breadmonstermitt: Perfect thanks.11:30
mittbreadmonster: you're welcome11:31
peter_ctnhi all some help pleasehttp://www.pastebin.ca/2905101 i cant upload street shots11:36
spacepig2001#tanglu11:36
peter_ctnscreen11:36
phre4kpeter_ctn: what?11:38
svetlanaWrong window.11:38
svetlana"screen" is a terminal command.11:38
phre4k^ I think he just corrected himself11:38
peter_ctnany idea guys11:46
mittpeter_ctn: we need longer description11:46
svetlanaIt was just an educated guess.11:47
svetlanaEr, wrong channel...11:47
peter_ctnmitt: can i email street shots?11:48
peter_ctnscreen11:48
Ben64post it on imgur.com11:49
mittpeter_ctn: how is this related to11:50
mittUbuntu11:50
svetlanapeter_ctn: It looks like we can't help without seeing picture. and you can't access it without paying for some sort of service from them.11:50
svetlanamitt: He has an Ubuntu server I think which fails to boot.11:50
mittsvetlana: heck, I didn't check the link11:51
kamil_guys, is it posssible to add vivid repos, using add-apt-repository, and then downgrade with ppa-purge (if something gets wrong?)11:52
Ben64no11:53
kamil_Ben64: thanks for info, could you explain me more, please? im just curious why its not possible?11:54
OerHekskamil_, you cannot mix utopic and vivid repo's, try it and you'll see11:54
Ben64kamil_: you'll break everything11:54
peter_ctnmitt: http://imgur.com/5HAPTab,VmImDKS,BHK3IMH,BYDJk6c,vgZtqKe11:55
svetlanapeter_ctn: the question here is, if the server does not boot now, they appear to refuse to do anything to it -- even simple things such as boot recovery mode -- without prior payment from you.11:55
Ben64sounds like a terrible host11:56
kamil_so please tell me, what is better: wait for intel driver updatefor utopic, and waiting for amd to fix fglrx (segfault on boot) or update to vivid and stick with open source drivers?11:56
svetlanapeter_ctn: to me it looks like the networking service is not configured properly (image 2), and I need more logs in order to understand what to do about it.11:57
OerHeksVivid is in alpha stage, so we do not recommend to upgrade yet.11:58
OerHekskamil_, what is you rissue exactly? what ATI card gives troubles?11:59
OerHeks-r11:59
kamil_OerHeks: i got X.org segmentation fault on boot when using fglrx11:59
ljunggrenkamil_: using fglrx from repositories or installed from amd website?12:00
kamil_OerHeks: heard that this bug is active since january 201312:00
kamil_ljunggren: both12:00
kamil_ljunggren: tried repos (14.6), tried 14.9 and newest 14.1212:00
mittkamil_: in Debian it's called FrankenDebian, I had such thing and it becomes really hard to maintain system, in Ubuntu I think it's even worse12:00
ljunggrenkamil_: it was the same issie with 14.6 from repos?12:01
kamil_ljunggren: yes12:01
kamil_ljunggren: on trusty too, now i have utopic12:01
kamil_ljunggren: i just send xorg.0.log to bugzilla http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112912:02
ubottuati.cchtml.com bug 1129 in X11 Driver "X.org segfault" [Normal,New]12:02
kamil_yes, thats my bug12:02
OerHekskamil_, what ATI card?12:02
kamil_but i sa12:02
mittkamil_: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian it's called Shiny New Stuff Syndrome12:03
kamil_OerHeks: i have intel hd 4000 + radeon hd 8570m12:03
ljunggrenisnt intel hd 4000 much better for using with linux?12:03
kamil_mitt: yes, but this bug was first reported 2 years ago12:03
kamil_ljunggren: not really, battle.net is messed up with intel https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=4966712:03
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kamil_ljunggren: i managed to configure radeon open source drivers with dri_prime12:04
kamil_but glmark shows that intel have 2 times more points than radeon (and should be vice versa)12:05
mittkamil_: I don't think in new version it would be better12:05
mittwill be*12:06
kamil_mitt: :/ i still have hope that amd fix that bug12:07
kamil_btw. dontbrakedebian page is nice12:08
ljunggrengraphics driver on linux has only brought pain for me12:08
GrayShadehello, i'm writing a daemon that will start under upstart. is it ok to detect upstart by looking for UPSTART_JOB in the environment?12:16
phre4kGrayShade: why not use an upstart script to start it? Then you know upstart's running12:17
GrayShadei.e. to keep things simple i'm planning to use "expect stop" for readiness notification, but i only want that to happen when running under upstart12:18
GrayShadephre4k: you mean setting an env variable or passing an argument from the upstart config?12:18
phre4kGrayShade: yes. Or *only* start via upstart12:18
GrayShadei see. but are there any caveats regarding UPSTART_JOB?12:19
phre4kGrayShade: /join #ubuntu-app-devel I think12:20
GrayShaderight, thanks!12:20
phre4kGrayShade: sorry, I just use systemd and sysv :D12:20
GrayShadeheh, me too :)12:21
colombeenichannels12:22
colombeen!channels12:22
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist and !alis - See also !Guidelines12:22
lotuspsychje!upstart | GrayShade maybe here12:23
ubottuGrayShade maybe here: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/12:23
GrayShadeubottu, lotuspsychje: thanks12:23
GrayShadecolombeen, that is (:12:24
kirtahwhat's the point of the ubuntu installer's lvm option that just makes a giant root partition that fills the disk? why use lvm that way?12:32
lotuspsychje!lvm | kirtah12:33
ubottukirtah: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto12:33
quackgyverHow do I create a shortcut to a folder in Ubuntu=?12:34
quackgyver-=12:34
RafaelKhello folks12:36
RafaelKsomething is wrong on your server : http://91.189.92.200/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/12:36
ikoniaRafaelK: what are you talking about ?12:37
RafaelKhttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/12:37
phre4kquackgyver: terminal: ln -s /path/to/destination [link name, optional]12:37
SeveasRafaelK: that's just a symlink loop (/ubuntu/ is a symlink to /)12:37
phre4kquackgyver: apart from that there might be a "create shortcut" option in your file manager. Which are you using?12:37
RafaelKi get Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main mysql-common all 5.5.38-0ubuntu0.14.04.1==> default:   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80]12:38
quackgyverphre4k: just the default one that comes with ubuntu lts12:39
quackgyver64 bit12:39
quackgyverOk, "Make Link" worked when I gave myself ownership of the parent folder12:41
quackgyverthat's weird12:41
rodrigograca31_quackgyver:12:41
RafaelKi get error on apt-get install mysql…12:42
RafaelKFailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/libmysqlclient18_5.5.38-0ubuntu0.14.04.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]12:43
rodrigograca31_quackgyver: at least in Linux Mint if you hold ALT when draging and drop the item it shows "link here"12:43
Sherlock_regusEric^^12:43
phre4kquackgyver: you need permissions to create files, yes.12:43
quackgyverrodrigograca31_: I'd use Mint in a heartbeat if it wasn't for the fact that it crashed to hell 10 minutes into using it for the first time :)12:43
Sherlock_regusThe repair didnt work12:43
RafaelKin this folder on server is only 14.04.4012:43
sacarlsonRafaelK: did you try sudo apt-get update12:43
RafaelKyes12:43
lotuspsychjeSherlock_regus: what did you try?12:44
quackgyverAnyway thanks for all the help12:44
Sherlock_regusI was trying to boot into my windows 8 installed in ssd12:44
rodrigograca31_quackgyver: ... Yheaa linux has some quirks in some PCs/hardware,.....12:44
lotuspsychjeSherlock_regus: you dualboot with ubuntu?12:44
quackgyver:312:45
Sherlock_regusI accidntally dd my hard disk on which the boot file was present12:45
Sherlock_regusYa i had a ubuntu lso12:45
lotuspsychjeSherlock_regus: did you try an update-grub?12:45
Sherlock_regusYa12:45
SeveasRafaelK: pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy libmysqlclient1812:45
ikonia18 ?12:45
ikoniaisn't it 16 ?12:46
Sherlock_regusIts my original win812:46
Sherlock_regus:(12:46
lotuspsychjeSherlock_regus: make your life easy and install ubuntu single on HD12:46
Sherlock_regusI hav installed ubuntu12:47
Sherlock_regusBut i need word and ppt frequently12:47
Sherlock_regusSo windows is much useful12:47
Sherlock_regusAnd cstrike also...12:47
lotuspsychjeSherlock_regus: you can use microsoft documents from ubuntu aswell12:47
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Sherlock_regusNo i mean creating12:48
cfhowlettSherlock_regus, libreoffice creates all manner of windows documents.  research12:48
binarydepthoffice docuents you mean12:48
Sherlock_regusYa12:48
cfhowlettSherlock_regus, and counterstrike is on steam/linux12:48
binarydepthdocumets*12:48
lotuspsychjeSherlock_regus: there are microsoft online webapps for ubuntu aswell12:48
Sherlock_regusBut they are online12:49
Sherlock_regusI just want to fix it12:49
lotuspsychjeSherlock_regus: maybe it needs a fix from windows side12:49
Sherlock_regusI tried that12:50
Sherlock_regusBut didnt work12:50
Sherlock_regusI installd a win8.112:50
cfhowlettSherlock_regus, if windows can't fix windows ... not much ubuntu can do about it12:50
binarydepthyep12:50
lotuspsychjeSherlock_regus: check the ##windows guys, they might know a bootrepair trick?12:51
Sherlock_regusBut there should be some way out12:51
binarydepthgo to eightforums.com12:51
cfhowlettSherlock_regus, that IS the way out.  ask ##windows ... they're the experts.12:51
Sherlock_regusI tried that they are just bunch of idiots12:52
klewanyone with experience of swapping to an nfs-share? taking daily backups of 300+GB swap is getting on my nerves12:52
cfhowlettSherlock_regus, or learn to use the equivalent - and abundant - linux tools12:52
lotuspsychjeSherlock_regus: if your ubuntu is working and you did an update-grub think we cant do much more from our side12:52
Sherlock_regusIts easier to cut away the disease but its difficult to cure it...12:53
lotuspsychje!uefi > Sherlock_regus maybe read up here12:53
ubottuSherlock_regus, please see my private message12:53
lotuspsychjeSherlock_regus: windows is the desease  you need to cut :p12:54
cfhowlettSherlock_regus, windows does not co-exist peacefully with other OS's.  Complaints >>> Microsoft12:54
binarydepthWindows 8 was fine with linux hen I had it12:55
binarydepthI had a license from college and had to make some homework in Office12:56
lotuspsychje!nfs | klew maybe more info here12:56
ubottuklew maybe more info here: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.12:56
cfhowlettSherlock_regus, you might want to consider virtualbox for your windows or perhaps wine for MS Office12:56
quackgyverHas anyone tried running Ubuntu on an Intel NUC?12:57
lotuspsychjequackgyver: whats your issue exactly?12:58
RafaelKSeveas: i'm currently on building vagrant box, this box was working previously and i didn't any changes and now i get this errors12:58
RafaelKin puppet are no special version defined: also only the package names12:58
quackgyverlotuspsychje: I want a Linux Desktop computer for work but I'm not entirely sure that it won't cause problems since I've had issues with Ubuntu before, so I'm looking for an extremely cheap computer with enough processing power to allow me to do web development and multitask comfortably, so that I can in a worst case scenario discard it and get a Windows or12:59
quackgyverMac if it doesn't work out.12:59
lotuspsychjequackgyver: i almost never have a machine that cant run ubuntu on it13:00
matthias__hello i have problems sending mails with the php mail-function. i can receive emails with my gmail address, but for example @gmx.net is not working for receiving them. i am sending the mails trough a .tk domain, i have owned. here is the mail.log file https://bpaste.net/show/6ebab75bcda413:00
quackgyverlotuspsychje: well intel nuc is a special computer13:00
quackgyverso thats why im curious13:00
quackgyverit costs like... 1200 eur13:00
quackgyverer, 120*13:00
klewlotuspsychje: I was thinking more along the lines of performance implications, we've got 10GBit connections between VMs and NAS, so it should work rather well, curious if someone here had tried it though13:00
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cfhowlettquackgyver, your use almost sounds like a poster child for chromebook13:01
quackgyvercfhowlett: Well, I want to use Linux specifically because I'm currently in a position where I'm forced to learn a lot of technologies that I previously haven't been wanting to, so I figured I might as well do it on Linux which I've also been putting off for the same reasons.13:02
lotuspsychjequackgyver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/245059/can-ubuntu-run-on-intels-nuc-devices13:02
quackgyverAnd I figured it'd be nice to run a local webserver on it as well.13:02
du5tballcan dhclient lease several IPs on the same interface?13:02
cfhowlettquackgyver, www.dell.com/developer13:02
quackgyvercfhowlett: Aye, I've been looking at Dell.13:02
cfhowlettquackgyver, note: updated model to be released any day now13:02
quackgyverI was specifically curious if someone here has used Intel NUC.13:02
quackgyverand had any comments13:02
quackgyverbut I guess not13:02
cfhowlettquackgyver, probably better off googling: linux + intel + nuc13:03
quackgyvertrue13:03
quackgyverI guess what I'm wondering the most is how fast and responsive the GUIs are13:03
quackgyverand how much you can multitask before it grinds to a halt13:03
quackgyverbut ill try googling for an answer13:04
tehgoochIs there a way to enable more verbose logging to the system console on Ubuntu Server 12.04? We have a server stuck after showing the e1000 ethernet adapter. System activity lights are not blinking at all.13:04
tehgoochI can boot it into recovery though.13:04
tehgooch(I know 12.04 is old - it's a client)13:05
cfhowlett!server | tehgooch, ask the server channel13:05
ubottutehgooch, ask the server channel: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server13:05
lotuspsychjetehgooch: log what exactly?13:05
tehgoochTrying to divine why it's hanging there.13:05
tehgoochNothing jumps out.13:06
EriC^^tehgooch: check dmesg maybe?13:06
tehgoochI'll go to the server channel13:06
lotuspsychjetehgooch: check the syslog13:06
tehgoochthanks though13:06
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rimdekerHey guys, I installed my root as btrfs and my grub broke, I'm trying to fix grub from a LiveUSB but it doesn't seem to work13:21
rimdekerwhen I mount the subvolume and do the bind mounts and call grub-install from there, then I end up in the grub console during booting13:22
rimdekerif I don't mount the subvolume directly and the drive instead13:22
rimdekerI get the following error even after binds working correct: grub-install: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).13:23
latterais there a way to tell apt-get not to use IPv6?13:23
tewardlattera: turn off v6, or possibly explicitly define the IP addresses for the servers in /etc/hosts (which is how I override the v6 side)13:25
latterafigured it out13:27
latteraapt-get -o Acquire::FoceIPv4=true install package1 package2 packageN13:27
latteras/FoceIPv4/ForceIPv4/13:28
timurhi I installed on my MacBookPro Ubuntu 14.01, it's too  laggy. My system specs are quite high. I have 16 b ram 8 cores i8 2,7 and nvidia graphic card. What could be the reason any ideas?13:28
cfhowlett!mac | timur   ubuntu on a mac is significantly less certain than on a non-OSX device13:29
ubottutimur   ubuntu on a mac is significantly less certain than on a non-OSX device: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages13:30
teaearlgraycoldIs font support required for ncurses to draw a vertical line? Because I get the character `13:32
teaearlgraycoldsmuxi: ah a bB brother?13:40
smuxibB?13:41
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teaearlgraycoldplumblum: your vhost is @baconseed.org13:42
teaearlgraycoldbaconbits13:42
plumblumah13:42
plumblumNow i'm following13:42
sheeris there a linux/ubuntu/programming channel for noobs?13:44
Ben64!alis | sheer13:44
ubottusheer: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*13:44
cfhowlettsheer, fullcirclemagazine.org    has a several compilation issues devoted to python13:45
pradeepHey..13:46
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kevindeHello, Everyday I take my hdd from work back to home and use it on my desktop pc here also now and then. but today I started my ubuntu up and it did not recognize my LAN NIC somehow13:50
kevindebasically my lan cable is plugged in but I only have lo interface when i do ifconfig13:51
kevindeNetwork manager is uninstalled, so configured with /etc/network/interfaces13:51
OerHekskevinde, have you tried to reboot your router? helps sometimes with unexplainable issues13:53
kevindeI have network when I log on my windows machine so it must be something wrong with either the driver or configuration13:54
foolHi folks.  Ubuntu can't connect to the internet through a wired connected (Modem->Router->PC) this morning, no settings changed.  Same link works with a Windows box.13:55
foolSounds like I have the same issue as kevinde.13:55
foolIf I log into the router's firmware interface, it also cannot detect an internet connection when it looks for firmware updates.13:55
BluesKajkevinde, which ubuntu release?13:56
kevindeBluesKaj: Ubuntu 12.0413:57
foolI've got 14.04.  SpeedStream 5260 modem, Netgear WNR2000v1 router.13:58
kevindels /sys/class/net only shows the localhost interface too13:58
ovrflw0xwhen  i boot into ubuntu sometimes... the Desktop "background" shrinks and remaining area is taken by back stripes, how to fix this so that it doesn't happen again? i've external monitor turned on with Laptop's screen turned off.13:59
ovrflw0xblack****13:59
ovrflw0xnot "back" but "black"13:59
ovrflw0x^^^^13:59
BluesKajkevinde, check this out , resolv.conf gets over written, https://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/how-to-add-static-dns-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts/13:59
BlinkizHello. I have discovered that I have an older version of openssl installed on my ubuntu 14.04 server system. I have version 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 installed. In trusty-security it exist 1.0.1-1ubuntu2.8 but I have no option to install it. I have the deb line for ubuntu security on sources.list file so I do not know what is wrong here?14:00
gary1join /java-talk14:01
cfhowlettBlinkiz, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade        should get it14:01
ikoniaBlinkiz: if you do a dist-upgrade it will pull in all pending updates14:01
ovrflw0xBlinkiz, what do you serve on your server?14:01
jorisHi. Is there a way to disable ipv6 upstream only?14:01
jh5Blinkiz: We also have openssl 1.0.1 whats wrong with it?14:02
ikoniajoris: ipv6 is "on or off"14:02
ovrflw0xwhen  i boot into ubuntu sometimes... the Desktop "background" shrinks and remaining area is taken by black stripes, how to fix this so that it doesn't happen again? i've external monitor turned on with Laptop's screen turned off.14:02
jorisikonia: Will disabling ipv6 completely, prevent me from connecting to an ipv6 address if I only have ipv4 IPs ?14:03
jorisikonia: And vice versa?14:03
ikoniajoris: it will stop you participating directly on an IPV6 network14:03
ikoniait will not stop you routing to IPV6 networks14:03
jorisTYVM14:03
jorisThe use case here is that I'm trying to connect to a service whose ipv6 connectivity is unreliable14:04
jorisI could put their ipv4 IP in my /etc/hosts, but those IPs could change over time14:04
ikoniawhy would putting entries in /etc/hosts make the connectivity better ?14:05
jorisIt would prevent their ipv6 address from being accessed14:05
jorisBy me14:05
ikonia?14:05
ikoniait wouldn't prevent anything14:05
jorisI would only put their IPv4 addresses in my /etc/hosts14:05
ikoniait would just map a hostname to an IP14:05
jorisMeaning, their hostname would always be accessed by me over ipv414:06
Blinkizcfhowlett, ikonia, apt-get dist-upgrade does not show this new version. Doing apt-cache show openssl with version 1.0.1f-1ubuntu214:06
jorisInstead of their unreliable ipv6 addresses14:06
ikoniajoris: can't you do that via the dns ?14:06
jorisikonia: Perhaps, currently I don't run a dns14:06
ikoniaBlinkiz: apt-cache policy openssl14:06
ikoniajoris: you don't need to run dns - the public internet is dns14:06
ikoniajoris: how are you trying to currently resolve IP -> hostname14:06
jorisyou mean hostname -> ip ?14:07
ikoniasure14:07
Blinkizikonia, there I can see it. It says "Installed: 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.8". What?14:07
jorisThis is a standard Ubuntu LTS box with nginx and PHP. Not sure how that does outgoing lookups.14:07
ikoniaBlinkiz: why do you think its not installed14:07
ikoniajoris: it uses dns - so if you lookup the site/server you want to use it will present whatever that company wants you to use14:07
jorisI prefer to keep looking up their IPs, as they have several, but prevent traffic from going to their ipv6 addresses14:08
Blinkizikonia, TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV is not working which is introduced in -1ubuntu2.8 package14:08
jorisTheir hostname now resolves to several IPv4 and IPv6 addresses14:08
ikoniaBlinkiz: dpkg -l | grep openssl14:08
ikoniajoris: ok, so they have have round robin dns  ?14:08
jorisI want my web app to only pick the ipv4 ones14:08
jorisYeah, would seem so14:08
Blinkizikonia, says 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.814:08
BlinkizSo I have 1ubuntu2.8?14:08
ikoniaBlinkiz: you have that version14:08
Blinkizikonia, Why is apt-cache show giving me Version: 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2?14:09
ikoniaBlinkiz: please show me in a pastebin the output of the following commands14:09
user_hello14:09
ikoniaBlinkiz: apt-cache policy openssl14:09
ikoniaBlinkiz: and dpkg -l | rep openssl14:09
ikoniagrep14:09
user_can someone tell me which ubuntu version is suitable for creating LFS14:11
ikoniauser_: version of what ?14:11
Blinkizikonia, sure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9747689/14:11
user_ubuntu14:11
ikoniauser_: any version14:11
Blinkizikonia, I must be confused because of the two results for apt-cache show...14:12
user_@ikonia does that mean even non stable version ?14:12
Blinkizikonia, I did not know about the apt-cache policy command, nice line :)14:12
ikoniauser_: yes, but you would be VERY foolish to use an unstable platform to build a toolchain for a compile project14:13
ikoniaBlinkiz: so looking at that output, I can see you are using 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.814:13
Blinkizikonia, yes, me two, thanks for the help :)14:13
ayushgpReading package lists... Error!14:21
ayushgpE: Encountered a section with no Package: header14:21
ayushgpE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_thefanclub_ubuntu-after-install_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_i18n_Translation-en14:21
ayushgpE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.14:21
ayushgpi'm getting this error14:21
ayushgpany ideas on how to fix this?14:22
CtrlAltDeliciousSup everyone?14:22
dhurbayu14:23
dhurbahey14:23
daftykinsCtrlAltDelicious: hello. do you have a support question?14:23
dhurbawho is there??14:23
daftykinsdhurba: only us ghosts14:23
cfhowlettdhurba, ask your ubuntu questions14:23
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CtrlAltDeliciousdaftykins: Hmmm, well, thats not why I stopped by, however; if youre itching to answer a question I suppose I could think of something Ive wondered.14:24
daftykinsCtrlAltDelicious: as long as it's ubuntu support related. otherwise general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)14:24
OerHeksayushgp, try to update first and try again? if that does not solve, contact the ppa maintainer, as we do not support ppa's14:24
Guest67852hi, how can i disable sync to vblank in ubuntu? Runing liveUSB have much more performance due to vsync is off. but as soon as installed vsync becomes defualt on?14:25
CtrlAltDeliciousLets see...  I have a Windows workstation (I know - boo) for work, and Im running CYGWIN to manage remote Linux servers. When I do a tcpdump via SSH, is there a way to fork it so it keeps capturing if I close my CLI?14:25
OerHeksGuest67852, disable it after install?14:25
daftykinsCtrlAltDelicious: run it via screen14:25
Guest67852OerHeks: Yeah that was my question :) how to disable it?14:26
Guest67852OerHeks: Using free drivers14:27
OerHeksGuest67852, how did you see vsync was off in liveUSB?14:27
daftykinsGuest67852: so you want to have a nice tearing desktop instead? mmhmm.14:27
OerHeksinstalling prop drivers would give the option, at least with Nvidia14:28
Guest67852OerHeks: well the screen is tearing. daftykins yes because using vsync it gets really slow , i would rather have it tearing and responsive14:28
daftykinsGuest67852: sounds like you just haven't got an appropriate driver installed for your hardware.14:28
daftykinswhat graphics setup?14:29
RaMcHiP #windows-server14:29
Guest67852daftykins: laptop with amd e-450. running great performance+tearing in liveUSB. the graphics is radeon 632014:29
daftykinsGuest67852: install fglrx?14:29
OerHeksRaMcHiP, yes, no, wrong channel14:29
Guest67852daftykins: usually the problems gets worse with fglrx. i really want to use open source drivers14:30
Guest67852Isnt there a easy way to just disable vsync with open source drivers?14:30
daftykinswhat version are you on?14:32
daftykinsrepo fglrx or AMD website download fglrx?14:32
Guest67852daftykins: repo14:33
daftykinsGuest67852: ubuntu official? probably ancient then14:33
daftykinsi don't have a clue on vsync with radeon, probably you have to create a xorg.conf and disable it through a manual option somehow... but i still say this is the wrong way to go about it. vsync isn't tied to performance in this way, if you're on an LCD @ 60Hz you'd get 60fps if performance is good enough14:34
Guest67852daftykins: i know its good enough thats not the problem, the problem is everything gets sorta delayed and clunky14:35
Guest67852isnt ubuntu still using compiz daftykins _14:36
daftykinsyes unity uses all the 3D gubbins14:36
Guest67852maybe i can just install compiz control and disable it there14:36
daftykinswell, i would imagine a quick google would get the answer on this one14:36
daftykinse.g. "ubuntu 14.10 radeon vsync"14:36
Guest67852daftykins: yeah im not it14:36
daftykinshuh?14:37
Guest67852daftykins: Yes i will do that.14:37
daftykinsor install a newer fglrx, that should be a valid approach too14:37
Guest67852daftykins: Yeah im ON it. lol14:37
daftykinsaaah.14:38
Guest67852daftykins: ubuntu always breaks one way or another when using fglrx for me :)14:38
daftykinswelcome to Linux with AMD.14:38
Guest67852daftykins: haha yes i know thank you. sad really14:38
daftykinsyou could always run xubuntu :)14:38
Anuttymoushey, having trouble with Ubuntu 14.10 in that I have no mouse cursor. medion akoya laptop, running Ubuntu from USB, not installed on the laptop14:40
Anuttymousxinput list indicates that I don't have a mouse or touchpad, or at least doesn't list anything14:41
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Anuttymouscould anybody help?14:45
reisioAnuttymous: sure14:45
deepSnitgo ahead14:45
Anuttymous14.10 on medion akoya laptop, booting from USB, I'm not getting a mouse cursor14:46
Anuttymousxinput list doesn't list a mouse or touchpad14:46
Guest67852daftykins: yup there vsync is disabled by default. are you running xubuntu?14:46
daftykinson an old system, yes14:46
Guest67852daftykins: ottherwise unity on main?14:47
daftykinsno i don't run desktop Linux14:47
daftykinsbut don't tell anyone...14:47
Guest67852daftykins: neither do i...sshhhh14:47
OerHeksAnuttymous, you were here yesterday too? i found this, see the last post, maybe it applies to you too >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233632&page=214:47
byte-smasheris it normal for files to chown to whoever last edited them?14:49
Anuttymousthat doesn't seem to help14:49
shadow1911 14:51
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shadow1911I have created a horror game with Blender and Unity Pro and would like to add it to the Ubuntu store (For Free) and would like to know how.14:52
shadow1911Do I have to get an Ubuntu license?14:52
dakirashadow1911: no14:53
dakirashadow1911: check out this site: http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/publish/14:53
shadow1911Thank you14:53
daftykinsAnuttymous: what did you run? just the modprobe?14:55
daftykinsAnuttymous: you'll probably need to restart X in the live session, since you can't reboot. press ctrl+alt+F1, then run "sudo service lightdm restart"14:55
reisioAnuttymous: did the mouse work from the install media?14:56
Anuttymousthe mouse had only worked from Windows so far14:56
reisioAnuttymous: what about the install media?14:57
daftykinsthe user is in a live session right now afaiui14:57
reisiobeing able to answer a simple question is going to come in handy :)14:58
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Anuttymousthe modprobe and light restart didn't seem to work14:59
reisiolet me know if you ever answer my question :)15:00
OerHeksmaybe that last part, updates, should do the trick, you need to install ubuntu, and use tab to select etc15:00
upphello, i get the error not enough free disk space, the upgrade needs a total of ... can any one help? i have ubuntu 14.0415:01
k1lupp: well free some space15:02
jpdsupp: sudo apt-get autoclean15:02
OerHeksupp, try sudo apt-get autoremove # and try to remove some old kernels15:02
reisioupp: https://wiki.debian.org/FreeSpace15:02
reisiojust buy more storage, you'll need it eventually15:02
uppi have tryed apt-get clean and autoclean and autoremove, but doesn't help15:03
uppi have enough storage15:03
reisiommm, you just said you didn't, though :)15:03
jpdsupp: Do you have enough inodes?15:03
critalHey everyone, im looking for someone to help me with a problem i have with my mouse15:04
reisioalmost certainly a question of semantics15:04
reisiocrital: well, you might find one here15:04
upponly here /dev/sda1 236M  159M   66M  71% /boot15:04
critalMy mouse feels much more smoother in windows than it does on Ubuntu, any one have a fix ?15:04
uppjpds: my /boot partition is to smal15:05
k1lupp: so you got a seperated /boot that is too full. so remove old kernel packages15:05
jpdsupp: Yeah, that'd do it.15:05
reisiocrital: smoother?15:05
critalreisio: Yes, the cursor in Ubuntu feels laggy/not as accurate as it does in windows15:06
latteralooks like the systray icon for pidgin is missing15:06
latteraanyone know how I can get it to show up?15:06
AnuttymousI can't seem to install 14.10, it's just stopping at the preparing to install with the continue and back buttons greyed out15:06
Guest67852crital: perhaps this is another issue with vsync?15:06
reisiocrital: is it a touchpad?15:06
Guest67852Anuttymous: how long have you waited for it?15:07
critalI havent thought of that guest, i do have a 120hz screen. Maybe im not running ubuntu in 120hz ?15:07
Malcoroxmorning15:08
critalNot a touchpad15:08
Guest67852crital: it could be so, check glxgears for me?15:08
Anuttymousokay, never mind, it was just taking a moment.15:08
Guest67852just to see how many fps you get15:08
reisio120hz? Isn't that odd?15:08
critalHow do i do this ?15:08
Guest67852crital: in terminal : glxgears15:08
Guest67852you can also check amongst screen resolution to see if it identify your screen properly.. there you see if its 60hz or 120hz15:09
k1lGuest67852: glxgears is not a benchmark. its more a "it works" thingy15:09
Guest67852k1l: exactly, thats why i suggested it15:09
critalall i see is gears spinning15:09
crital60 fps15:09
topdownjimmyWhat does it mean when I see a repeated string of @^@^@^@^@^ in my kern.log and syslog?15:10
topdownjimmyMy computer became unresponsive, and on reboot I noticed those lines at the end of the logs before the system freeze.15:10
critalGuest67852: How do i set it to 120hz ?15:10
reisiotopdownjimmy: it's unreasonable to expect an unstable system to log properly, wouldn't you say? :)15:11
topdownjimmyreisio: I guess, I was just hoping those characters indicated something specific.15:12
sheersheer15:12
sheeroops15:12
* reisio shrugs15:13
Guest67852crital: well, is it recently installed?15:13
critalI've had this Monitor for a long time but i recently installed Ubuntu15:14
Dualityhey all15:17
reisiohey15:17
Guest67852crital: well, i gotta go but try google 120hz ubuntu 14.10.15:18
Dualityi have a network device connected to my laptop (wired network) and wired settings set to shared to other computers. how can i find out what ip my laptop gave the device ?15:18
Dualitynmap doesn't show my anything though15:18
Guest67852crital: perhaps you need to install propritary drivers but i doubt thats the only solution.15:18
daftykinsDuality: you're running a DHCP server? check the logs15:18
Dualitydaftykins: which one ?15:19
Dualityi am not running a dhcp server15:19
daftykinsthen why do you believe your laptop gave this device an IP?15:19
Dualitybecause if i connect my pi this way it give my pi an ip address and shows up on nmap, just wondering why this device doesn't show up15:20
imbezolDuality: try arp -na on the laptop15:21
imbezolDuality: if that doesn't work use nmap to ping the whole subnet15:22
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daftykinsi would hope that's already been the approach. sudo nmap -sP 192.168.0.1-254 for example - but that's a waste of effort if the IP is being given out by the laptop15:22
daftykinsor maybe it's APIPA? 169. addresses15:23
Dualityimbezol: cool shows alot of eth0 ip's all incomplete15:23
imbezolDuality: you normally connect your laptop with wireless?15:24
Dualitypinging the whole subnet shows only my ip15:24
daftykinsexplain again how your devices are connected?15:25
onemansubmarinehi folks, can I ask a question regarding thunderbird in this channel?15:25
daftykinsa mozilla or thunderbird channel would probably be better15:25
compdocI think you just did15:25
Dualitythrough a cat5 cable on my ethernet card15:25
daftykins!alis15:25
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*15:25
daftykinsDuality: so you're on a system wired into your router and the Pi is too?15:26
Dualityno15:26
imbezolhow does the laptop get internet? wireless?15:26
Dualitythere is no router my network device is directly connected to my laptop15:26
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Dualityimbezol: yea wireless15:26
daftykins'network device' o015:27
imbezolso then you share that over your ethernet port?15:27
daftykinsyou mean a switch? :P15:27
Dualitydaftykins: no a ipc beckboard sc1215:27
Dualityit's a mini computer with ftp http stack and everything15:28
rlabad#admin15:28
daftykinsDuality: hmm, ok so it doesn't have any direct interaction? no input devices etc, solely power + LAN?15:28
Negrona5 Who like this game , Dexterity Ball 3D ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ELS9t3jd8k15:29
backboxhey bitches15:29
Dualitydaftykins: yea15:29
cfhowlettbackbox, stop now.15:29
backboxlol15:29
backboxwhere you at15:29
cfhowlettbackbox, ask your ubuntu question15:30
daftykinsDuality: so either network manager's sharing setup is set wrong, or it hasn't started up properly i would guess15:30
daftykinsyou can't bridge your wireless i would think15:31
Dualitydaftykins: maybe i should try a different laptop too15:31
Dualityi don't want to bridge wireless15:31
Dualityi just want to telnet to the beckboard, which should be possible. it boots (cause the boot led burns) so i assume that the device is booted. last time i could just telnet it :)15:32
daftykinsso you don't want the device to have connectivity online, just direct with the laptop15:32
Dualityyea15:32
Dualityshared to other computers works for that15:32
daftykinsalright well you either need to run a DHCP server, or find out if it runs a static IP15:32
daftykinswhat IP does eth0 have right now?15:33
Abd_AllatifHello, How can I get AC adapter current wattage? becouse my laptop battery is charging slowly15:33
Duality10.42.0.115:33
daftykinssounds like a network manager set IP15:34
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daftykinsDuality: i think you need to undo the network manager sharing then, and let it run wild. they'll probably both set to an APIPA address that way (169.254.x.x) then be contactable once you scan for the other15:34
Dualitydaftykins: the device works because if i connect to the local network i can ping it :)15:36
daftykinsDuality: what do you mean local network?15:36
hannachilocalhost15:36
daftykinsno.15:36
Dualitydaftykins: like the network that supplies my wireless connection15:36
hannachiconnection15:36
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Anuttymousso, installed Ubuntu and tried modprobe to get the mouse working, but still doesn't seem to be, unless I missed something15:37
daftykinsso cable out of laptop, into router? 0o15:37
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daftykinssorry this isn't too clear to me15:37
hannachitlaxkit15:37
Dualitydaftykins: yea15:37
hannachiview options15:37
daftykinshannachi: stop that please15:37
hannachistop15:38
hannachiping15:38
daftykinsDuality: yeah ok but it's getting an IP via DHCP, so the router's DHCP server is providing it. there might not be one running on the laptop to give the device an IP, tell you what http://paste.ubuntu.com show me "ip a"15:38
hannachiclient15:38
DJoneshannachi: Do you have an Ubuntu support question for the channel?15:38
daftykinshannachi: either ask an ubuntu support question or leave, please.15:38
hannachisupport15:40
daftykinsdefinitely kick o'clock15:40
cfhowlettdaftykins, agreed15:41
AnuttymousUbuntu installed, but still no mouse cursor15:41
daftykinsfully updated?15:41
onemansubmarinethere is a ubuntu-mozillateam on freenode, for problems for thunderbird but I think its quite inactive15:41
AnuttymousYeah15:42
daftykinsonemansubmarine: did you try the alis bot for finding channels?15:42
onemansubmarinedaftykins: yes I did that was the result15:42
Anuttymousxinput list still sees no mouse15:42
Dualitydaftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9749035/15:42
onemansubmarinedaftykins: I also tried the channel #thunderbird15:42
xanguathere is no thunderbird channel in freenode15:43
PiciMozilla's main channels are on moznet, not freenode.15:43
onemansubmarinePici: thx I will try there15:44
spitziUsing Ubuntu 14.04. Tried to set env var per instructions here but nothing worked, not even after opening a new terminal. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Persistent_environment_variables15:44
daftykinsDuality: nah you don't scan your wifi subnet then, you scan this 10.0.3.2-.25415:45
Anuttymoussudo modprobe -r psmouse has no feedback, so I don't know if it's done what it's meant to do15:45
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daftykinsAnuttymous: easy, "lsmod | grep -i mouse"15:46
Anuttymousinvokes nothing15:46
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daftykinsAnuttymous: which is a good sign since it means no module with 'mouse' in the name is loaded15:47
daftykinswhereas once you "sudo modprobe psmouse" again, it should show up15:47
Meliothe software center shows GoLang programming language at version 1.2, google obvously has later versions. should i ignore the package install and just get the tarball and install it15:48
reisioMelio: mmm15:48
reisioMelio: uh, did you have some reason to require a higher version?15:49
MelioI guess i'm thinking about this. i would rather have tarballs because programming languages typically shouldnt be updated automaticly.. aka python15:49
reisioif not, then why bother?15:49
MelioI don't have any reasons to request a higher version15:49
EriC^^Melio: you can set them not to update automatically15:49
reisiowell, no, programming language interpreters are fine to update automatically15:49
reisioincluding python15:49
Melioi'm just curious as to how i should put this on my system15:49
EriC^^Melio: man apt_preferences or man apt-mark maybe15:49
reisioyou should always use the package manager unless you have some reason not to15:49
reisioreasons are... well they're reasons15:49
reisioone should have a reason15:49
Melioreisio, the differnce between 2.x and 3.0 python are tremendious15:49
reisiothat's... reasonable15:49
reisioMelio: yes, what of it?15:50
Melioyou should never update python on fedora for instance15:50
Melioit screws up the entire tool base15:50
reisioyou probably have python 2 and 3 installed right now, from your package manager15:50
oddeyedMelio: there are python2 and python3 packages in the software centre so you can pick15:50
Meliounless they fixed that15:50
reisioI doubt it was ever a problem15:50
Meliopossibly not15:50
Melioit was my interpetation15:50
Melioi'm not a programmer15:50
AnuttymousI rebooted, but no mouse input15:50
Meliojust trying to learn15:50
MelioAnuttymous, usb connected or laptp touchpad15:51
Anuttymoustouchpad15:51
Anuttymoushttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233632&page=215:51
Meliothe touchpad drivers can be seen in dmesg15:51
reisioAnuttymous: did it work on the install media?15:51
Meliosee if they are loading15:51
AnuttymousI was using the last comment15:51
Anuttymousit didn't15:51
MelioI have zero reason to not install the package from ubuntu software center15:52
oddeyedMelio: In general, stuff that is in the software repositories for ubuntu is more thoroughly tested and more likely to be stable on your system. If you want brand new features at the expense of stability/reliability, then you can compile from tarballs yourself or the software project might provide .deb files.15:52
reisioMelio: that should really give you your answer15:52
Melioyeah i agree15:52
reisio:D15:52
Meliobut that's why i asked15:52
reisioasking is natural15:52
Melioi consider experts opinion better then my own15:52
reisioeven if the answer seems obvious or annoying :)15:52
hannachiping15:53
Anuttymousit said after a reboot and a apt-get update, but I'm not sure if that just "sudo apt-get update"15:53
Melioit's usually always sudo apt-get update15:54
hannachisource15:54
MelioAnuttymous, it's possible your newer kernel doesnt detect your touchpad15:54
AnuttymousHow sure I fix that?15:54
MelioI personally disabled my touchpad15:54
Melioi use a usb mouse15:54
oddeyedOn the grub menu you can switch kernels iirc?15:55
Melioi'm oldschool I need a mouse touchpads are uncomfortabl to me15:55
reisiowhat'd you say it was, 'akoya'?15:55
reisiooddeyed: yup15:55
AnuttymousI don't have a USB mouse, otherwise this wouldn't be too problematic :P15:55
reisioMelio: touchpads are awful, nothing to do with schools :)15:55
Anuttymousmedion akoya15:55
Melioj keys are aweful too15:55
reisioalthough multitouch touchpads are slightly less awful15:55
Melioit was "neat" back in 198615:55
daftykinsMelio: we're more a support channel than a chat channel15:56
reisiogood example of why neatness is overrated, heh15:56
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AnuttymousWhat should I do? downgrade?15:57
reisioAnuttymous: you see this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233632&page=2&p=13194082#post1319408215:57
MelioAnuttymous, it's possible to try it may not solve your problem. but it seems likly15:57
AnuttymousI've tried that reisio15:58
Meliomy asus laptop touchpad causes lockups, coincidently15:58
Anuttymous version of Ubuntu would you suggest, if I dowWhaIngrade?15:58
jhutchinsAnuttymous: apt-get update just updates the catalog.  apt-get upgrade actually installs new software.15:59
Meliohaving it enabled causes a serious lockup that requires a lid shut, reopen warm reboot of the power saving mode to recover15:59
reisioAnuttymous: howa bout http://www.evilcodingmonkey.com/2014/01/23/ubuntu-activate-multi-touch-on-elantech/ ?15:59
reisioother than that you might try a newer distro version, if there is one, and/or a newer Linux version16:00
spitziAny advice on how to set an env var in Ubuntu?16:00
spitziPersistently, that is.16:00
oddeyedspitzi: in your terminal? just edit .bashrc which runs on bash startup to set the variable or whatever.16:00
AnuttymousI'm not sure what newer version there is :P16:01
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oddeyedspitzi: e.g. in my ~/.bashrc I have a line PATH="/home/user/bin:$PATH" export PATH16:02
oddeyedis that what you want?16:02
spitziOk, it works good enough, thanks. I do wonder if there's a way to set an env var for all shells, current and future.16:03
AnuttymousHow do I scroll up in the terminal without a mouse?16:03
reisioAnuttymous: PGUP16:03
reisioor SHIFT+PGUP16:03
Anuttymousthanks :P16:03
reisiocan be done a little better if you use the 'screen' application16:03
oddeyedspitzi: It does stay set in future - every time that you launch a new (non-login) shell, .bashrc is run and so the variable is set persistently.16:05
spitziDoes it apply also to e.g. tcsh?16:05
reisiotcsh would have its own config file16:06
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oddeyedspitzi: what reisio said. but if you find out what tcsh does on startup then you can just edit that file.16:07
spitziok16:09
spitziThanks misters. Bye.16:10
Anuttymousnone of it seems to work. What version of Ubuntu would you suggest I downgrade to?16:10
AnuttymousI'm going back to Windows :P16:12
daftykinsAnuttymous: i would try 14.04.1, it's LTS anyway (long term support) so a better choice than 14.1016:13
AnuttymousI was on it16:13
hoogeveenis there a checksum for the 14.04.1 server amd64 iso LTS ?16:14
AnuttymousI tried 14.05, was suggested to try .1016:14
Anuttymous14.04*16:14
hoogeveeni did a search on the website but came up with no hits16:14
AnuttymousI can get a normal mouse working, just not touchpad. managed to borrow a mouse for a few seconds16:15
DJones!md5 | hoogeveen16:15
ubottuhoogeveen: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows16:15
hoogeveeni'm in solaris, but i'll look at those links, thanks.16:15
DJoneshoogeveen: http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/MD5SUMS16:15
DJoneshoogeveen: Thats the 14.04.1 md5 sums page16:16
hoogeveencool, but why did i not find them on the website?16:16
hoogeveenis it a link i missed?16:16
undecimWhat's the easiest way to create a simple meta-package the installs several pieces of software?16:16
DJoneshoogeveen: Not sure, they're normally shown in the alternative downloads pages16:16
hoogeveenok, i didn't see it, but now i have the link, so thanks.16:16
DJonesyour welcome16:16
snakesteranyone home?16:22
undecimWhat's the easiest way to create a simple meta-package that installs several pieces of software?16:29
TomyWorkundecim equivs16:31
TomyWorkby far :)16:31
undecimTomyWork, Sounds like exactly what I want :)16:31
TomyWorki have a strange problem where my mouse jumps to the right or to the bottom whenever i try to drag a window to the top, bottom or either side of the display16:32
undecimTomyWork, only when dragging?16:32
TomyWorkyes16:33
undecimTomyWork, mouse or touchpad?16:33
TomyWorkand only when dragging it to the edges16:33
TomyWorkmouse16:33
undecimHave you tried the hardware on another machine?16:33
undecimTomyWork, doesn't sound like a hw problem, but never hurts to be sure16:34
meskyI recently discovered that even though clearing history, private browsing, using BleachBit, that there is a log of sites I have visited in webkitgtk/localStorage that I don't know how to clear.16:34
TomyWorkok this only affects my mouse, not the touchpad or touchpoint16:34
TomyWorkit appeared after i played a bit with xset16:34
TomyWorkspecifically, i modified the translation matrix in order to get more speed16:35
undecimTomyWork, do you have any pointer-related stuff on the background? syndaemon or unclutter?16:35
TomyWorkuh i dont know16:36
TomyWorkbut i think it's the xset...16:36
lotuspsychjeTomyWork: cant you reset xset to defaults or something?16:36
TomyWorkyup, it was the xset16:36
TomyWorkxinput set-prop 11 143 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.50000016:37
TomyWorklooks good, no?16:37
devhost_Anyone knowledgeable about TIPC? I've got three machines, all there address' have been set, but only two on this local switch can see eachother as neighbors. The other machine, in a server room is on a different Ethernet segment. I need a work around.16:37
TomyWorkactually, let me back up a bit16:37
TomyWorkhow do i set mouse speed on kubuntu 14.04?16:37
undecimTomyWork, surely there's a KDE menu to configure the mouse...16:38
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TomyWorkundecim yes, it has acceleration but no speed16:38
Picidevhost_: Maybe #ubuntu-server or even perhaps ##networking could help you out.  Its definitely not a question that I've seen asked here before (I had to google what TIPC was even)16:39
daftykinsPici: me too :D16:39
devhost_Yeah, it's more a developer question.16:39
undecimTomyWork, Xorg.conf?16:39
TomyWorkbtw, this rotates all your mouse movements by 5 degrees: xinput set-prop 11 143 .996, -.0872, 0.000000, .0872, .996, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.00000016:39
TomyWork:)16:39
devhost_Less ubuntu specific.16:39
undecimTomyWork, Oh, that's cool16:40
undecimTomyWork, now that all my students have Ubuntu on their computers, I'll have some fun with that16:40
TomyWork:D16:40
undecimTomyWork, How would I do 45?16:40
TomyWorkgo to www.wolframalpha.com, enter "45 degree rotation matrix"16:41
TomyWorktype it out, first row, then 0, then 2nd row, then 0, then 0, 0, 116:41
undecimTomyWork, sweet16:42
lotuspsychjeyou can also tweak mouse with gpointing-device-settings16:42
TomyWorklotuspsychje i dont have that16:42
TomyWorklemme install that16:42
lotuspsychjeTomyWork: not sure it works for kubuntu16:42
lotuspsychje!info gpointing-device-settings16:42
ubottugpointing-device-settings (source: gpointing-device-settings): configuration tool for pointing devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.1-6ubuntu2 (utopic), package size 62 kB, installed size 504 kB16:42
TomyWork(gconftool-2:13334): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:16:43
TomyWorkuhoh16:43
meskyAnybody?16:43
undecimTomyWork, reset is xinput set-prop 11 143 1, 0, 0, 0,1,0,0,0,1 ?16:43
lotuspsychjeTomyWork: yeah, think its a bug on kubuntu16:43
TomyWorkundecim  looks about right16:43
TomyWorklotuspsychje that showed me my devices but it had even less options16:44
lotuspsychjekk16:44
undecim"X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)"16:44
wligtenbergHi, I have a weird issue when I want to install the 386 version of java on my 64 bit machine (required to run webex) http://pastebin.com/PhKVFP7L16:44
TomyWorkundecim try adding spaces after each comma16:45
justus_Hello I have a question regarding networking on ubuntu.16:45
undecimTomyWork, Value in failed request:  0x8f (hex for 143)16:45
wligtenbergIt gets stuck and I cannot get it fixed using sudo dpkg --configure -a16:45
undecimTomyWork, I did put spaces16:45
lotuspsychjejustus_: ask away16:45
undecimTomyWork, seems to be complaining about the 143 parameter16:45
TomyWorkundecim oh, you need to look up the property numbers and all that16:45
meskyOh, well...thanks anyway...16:45
undecimTomyWork, okay16:45
justus_I have a vpn connection running on one machine. Now i want to connect 3 other machines to route all their traffic through the machine with the vpn running...16:46
daftykinsthat's very ambitious16:46
daftykinsjustus_: probably more relevant in #ubuntu-server or ##networking i'd say though.16:46
TomyWorkundecim "xinput list" for the id16:47
TomyWorkthen "xinput list-props <id>" for the property number16:47
lotuspsychje!vpn | justus_ and some reading here16:47
ubottujustus_ and some reading here: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN16:47
justus_thank you for the recommendation @daftykins. I will ask the question over there.16:47
justus_thank you ubottu. The vpn is already set up.16:48
daftykins*tips hat*16:48
undecimTomyWork, I'm on 45 degree rotation now :)16:48
undecimLinux is amazing16:48
lotuspsychjesure is, specially with all the nice supporters here :p16:48
TomyWorkundecim if you want to do this via ssh, be sure to set DISPLAY properly16:49
TomyWorkusually to :016:49
undecimTomyWork, yup16:49
undecimTomyWork, next time someone is playing games in class, I'll have a script that generates random matrices every 5-20 seconds or so.16:50
lotuspsychjelol16:50
undecimTomyWork, Come to think of it, I could make it trigger whenever the game process is in the background, and reset when it's closed16:50
TomyWorkwhy random if you can vary them continuously from -10° to +10° :D16:51
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undecimdepends on the game, I think16:51
TomyWorkdo they have octave? :)16:52
undecimSomething like a FPS I might just vary the speed and randomly invert axes16:52
undecimTomyWork, I can install octave.16:52
TomyWorkhmm nah16:52
undecimTomyWork, I think python can handle all the calcs though16:52
TomyWorkok, if you want to exceed the shell :)16:53
undecimTomyWork, wouldn't octave exceed the shell?16:53
undecimTomyWork, or does octave have shell-like abilities that i'm unaware of?16:53
TomyWorkyou could pipe into it :D16:54
TomyWorkbut i see your point16:54
undecimPlus, its somewhat poetic, since it's a python class to begin with16:55
mrkameHello, I want to test Ubuntu on my macbook - but if things go wrong for some reason and I don't like it, I want to restore it back exactly how it was with OSX. How can I do it?16:55
undecimmrkame, If you have an external hard drive, you can make an exact clone of your drive before setup, then restore it if you don't like it16:56
undecimmrkame, that's if your external drive has at least as much free space as the entire size of your internal drive16:56
mrkameI see, interesting (: I'll buy one then, thanks16:57
undecimmrkame, Not sure how it works on OSX though16:57
undecimmrkame, i.e. how difficult to the backup and restore is. You should research if Apple already has a similar solution16:57
mrkameI see.16:57
undecimmrkame, Alternatively, if you're buying an external drive, you can install Ubuntu to the external drive16:57
undecimmrkame, Again, not sure how well Mac will handle booting from an external drive. My experience is with PC16:58
TomyWorkcos(f)+", "+ (-sin(f))+", 0, "+sin(f)+", "+ cos(f)+", 0, 0, 0, 1"16:58
mrkameIf I don't do that and just backup essential files instead, can I reinstall Yosemite without an external usb stick/CD?16:58
TomyWorkf=cos(t)*<10 degrees>16:58
TomyWorkin whatever unit f has to be16:59
undecimIs there an apple channel?16:59
daftykinsundecim: unofficial i think. #macosx or something, !alis for more16:59
undecimmrkame, there's a #MacOSX channel with >500 people in it that should be able to give you pointers on backup and restore17:01
mrkameoh woops...17:01
mrkamemy bad17:02
mrkamedidn't notice I just asked a mac question here, actually17:02
undecimit happens17:02
daftykinsmrkame: if a sharpened penguin flies your way, you'll know why ;)17:02
* undecim sharpens the edges of my old 'buntu discs17:03
xinuncan anyone suggest me any link for learning hacking17:04
undecim"hacking" is a pretty broad term17:04
daftykinsxinun: totally off topic and inappropriate here.17:05
undecimSo my answer to your questions is google.com17:05
lamppidHow i can set default permission on directory files or group i have /var/www/html directory and if i create new file, file creating with no permissions17:05
dioz_tepeshacking is so 90s17:05
mrthomaslamppid: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/applying-default-permissions-for-newly-created-files-within-a-specific-folder-605129/17:06
lamppidmrthomas,  thanks17:07
mrthomaslamppid: no problem, i actually didn't know so it was useful for me as well17:09
undecimlamppid, In the past, I've just used chmod -R on cron17:09
daftykinsthat's a pretty nasty shotgun strategy :P17:10
lamppidi try before umask 02217:10
HamRadioHey guys I have a question, - when Ubuntu 14.04.2 comes out with the 3.16 kernel, will I be able to install the 3.16 kernel from the repositories?17:10
bipulI need a help. I am unable to download or update latest adobe flash player inside my ubuntu 14.0417:10
undecimwell in this case, I wanted all the files to be 77717:10
undecimI wouldn't use it if i need the files to be private17:11
undecimHamRadio, the .1 and .2 are just package updates, so when you do a fresh install without internet access, you have more recent packages17:11
daftykinsHamRadio: it'll have a HWE (hardware enablement stack) from utopic maybe17:11
undecimHamRadio, a normal update will get you the same kernel17:11
daftykinsHamRadio: why would you want that though? you don't keep kernels up to date just for the sake of it.17:11
tatttoyo, one quick question17:12
daftykinsundecim: that's not true17:12
undecimdaftykins, reall?17:12
tatttoOn unity, there's a software pre-installed that let's me encrypt drivers17:12
undecimreally*17:12
bipulI need a help. I am unable to download or update latest adobe flash player inside my ubuntu 14.04 , I need adobe flash player10.17:12
tatttoI don't have that on Xubuntu. Does anyone know the name so I can install it?17:12
HamRadioThanks guys, I have a very new computer, and would like the latest kernel17:12
tatttoIt's "disk" something I think17:12
HamRadiobipul, you can't get flash player1017:12
HamRadioonly 11.217:12
undecimtattto, You want to encrypt an entire drive?17:13
daftykinsHamRadio: does everything work as-is?17:13
tatttoundecim, yes17:13
HamRadiodaftykins, not really....audio is messed up17:13
byte-smasherwhere can I edit the default prompt_command, for all users in a system?17:13
HamRadioand graphics driver is old for my computer17:13
daftykinsundecim: yep, packages might be available but you don't get anything but refreshes of the existing default kernel (e.g. 3.13 for 14.04, 3.16 for 14.10) from upgrades or dist-upgrade17:14
bipulalright 11, but how should i install it. I am getting a issue while installing17:14
daftykinsHamRadio: so install fglrx from AMD instead of from repo - no idea on audio troubles.17:14
undecimdaftykins, So they sometimes add new packages that weren't in the previous versions of the same code name?17:14
HamRadioI have an nVidia GPU17:14
tatttoundecim, Do you know what I'm talking about?17:14
undecimtattto, The package the does all the work is cryptsetup, but I'm not sure what the GUI package is.17:14
TomyWorkundecim i got something that makes my mouse go in sine curves when i move it straight :D17:14
undecimtattto, cryptsetup is done from the command line17:15
daftykinsHamRadio: sorry i read AMD instead of and, tired eyes :P17:15
tatttoundecim, damn, I really want a GUI.17:15
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daftykinsHamRadio: nvidia drivers can also be gotten from other sources than the default repo ones. but again, updating versions just for the sake of it isn't going to suddenly make it perform 100x faster. depends on what hardware you have17:15
HamRadioYeah, audio is strange...it's I have a laptop, and the external mic doesn't work at all, and the internal mic is like the gain on the right channel is turned all the way up, while the left is all the way down17:15
HamRadioHm, ok....thanks daftykins17:16
X123Hi!17:16
HamRadioHi X12317:17
daftykinsbipul: flash is dead. your best bet is to either install chrome and pepperflash, or install a pepperflash wrapper for use with firefox17:17
X123Trying to track down some strange issues with tcp connection stalling on 3.13 kernel (14.04.1 LTS)17:17
undecimtattto, let me see if i can find the package with the gui17:17
X123connecting to ssh or http has massive delays and eventually gets reset, even connecting locally 127.0.0.117:18
X123for example ssh 127.0.0.1, put in password, and wait anywhere from 8 seconds to 2 mins, sometimes making it through and sometimes connection gets reset17:18
bipuldaftykins, I am unable to open this site https://nextstep.tcs.com/campus/ just because, i required latest adobe flash1017:18
daftykinsbipul: sorry i'm not going to click that17:19
X123seems to happen only after 10-15 mins of uptime and lots of connections have been established to the server17:19
X123anyone else see this behaviour :)17:19
daftykinsdefine 'lots of connections' ?17:19
bipulI never said you to click it.17:20
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Darshan85hi everyone17:21
daftykinsbipul: ok :) wasn't much point sharing it then17:22
Darshan85I lost my grub after installing windows8.1. How can I get it back?17:22
undecimDarshan85, You need a liveCD17:22
daftykins!grub17:22
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub217:22
X123lots of connections, less than 100017:23
daftykinsX123: try #ubuntu-server17:23
X123i also noticed after some time period, i can't create a listen socket  any more17:23
TomyWorkundecim https://gist.github.com/TomyLobo/d6473dd2a494cad724e217:23
tatttoundecim, I'm also searching for it, but so far no luck.17:24
X123daftykins , will do :)17:24
X123thanks17:24
daftykinsnp17:24
X123this is driving me batty :>17:24
X123doing it on multiple machines too17:24
daftykinsX123: initial guess would be a bad driver for the NIC or something though, but i'm not exactly up on SSH woes17:24
X123like i said, it does it when you ssh to 127.0.0.117:24
X123or curl 127.0.0.117:24
abasمرحبه17:24
X123so that should have nothing to do with the NIC17:24
Darshan85thank you17:25
daftykinswell you would think so, but i've seen stranger things17:25
X123haha ya17:25
undecimtattto, I think gnome-disk-utility is the package you're looking for.17:25
en1gmaif i have a desktop shortcut in 14.10amd64 and i want to run as sudo how do i do it? when i right click and select properties i dont see a way to do it like that17:25
X123it has 4 NICs :)17:25
undecimtattto, in the Unity menu, it's simply called "Disks", and it allows encrypted partitions17:25
tatttoundecim, sweet17:26
X123and i tried using ips on all of them , different drivers for the nics too17:26
tatttoundecim, it's exactly this!17:26
tatttoundecim, You're the best! Thank you.17:26
TomyWorkundecim does it work for you? :)17:26
undecimTomyWork, just opened the page17:27
undecimTomyWork, quite well.17:28
undecimTomyWork, how can I adjust wavelength and amplitude?17:29
TomyWorkthey depend on how fast you go with the mouse17:29
anonymservus17:29
undecimTomyWork, I see. Though surely it's possible to amplify the effect?17:30
TomyWorkyou can adjust the amplitude of the rotation angle by replacing the number in front of "* degree"17:30
TomyWorkright now it goes from -20 to +20 and back within 5 seconds17:30
TomyWork(the 5 seconds is the 5)17:30
undecim50 has roughly the effect I'm looking for :)17:31
TomyWork:D17:31
undecimIs there a script or package for profiling a laptop? (e.g. getting specs on hardware and saving them in a file)17:36
Seveasundecim: lshw17:37
undecimI'm also looking for things like screen resolution17:37
undecimWould that be included in lshw?17:37
Seveasnope, but add xrandr :)17:38
Seveasundecim: there's also sosreport, but I don't know what details it includes.17:39
undecimWhat's that boot diagnostic script?17:39
undecimAnd also, can I get the available space on a partition without mounting it?17:42
daftykinsundecim: what's wrong with searching the make + model?17:42
daftykinssudo parted -l17:42
daftykinsah no that's just partition size, ignore17:42
undecimI've been meaning to write this particular script for some time17:43
undecimand/or find one that already exists17:43
Seveasundecim: maybe df /dev/yourpartition-here, but I never tried that on a partition/volume that wasn't mounted17:43
Trudkohi guys if I want to symlink 6 different file in folder is there some shortcut or do I have to run ln -s 6x times?17:44
undecimTrudko, do the filenames have spaces in them?17:45
Trudkowell no they are all in ./atom folder and names are config.cson  init.coffee   keymap.cson snippets.cson  style.less17:45
undecimTrudko: for file in "filename1 filename2 filename3"; do ln -s $file destination/ ; done17:46
undecimTrudko, Or you could symlink the directory, if it fits the situation17:46
Trudkoundecim: well I dont want to whole directory because there is bunch of stuff which I dont want17:47
Trudkobasicly I want to sync those files between two pcs using dropbox17:47
Trudkobtw destination should be something like dropbox/something/.atom17:47
Trudkoou nvm I will just try it no need to ask17:48
undecimSeveas, yup, df works.17:49
Charles_h_ChristAnyone here familiar with Ubuntu on the Lenovo z50-75?17:49
Seveasundecim: good to know, thanks for reporting back17:50
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bravechHello!18:05
daftykinshi18:05
bravechhi18:06
ljunggrenhi18:06
X123hi :)18:06
daftykinsgot a support question?18:06
undecimhi18:06
kat_is there a skype help channel?18:06
daftykinsmaybe microsoft will help with it18:07
daftykinswhat's your issue?18:07
kat_skype pics up my cam but not my speakers or mic18:07
ljunggrentry #skype18:08
undecimljunggren, there's only one person there....18:08
ljunggrenundecim: lol18:08
KavanSlol18:09
undecimBut if someone else joins him, maybe he'18:09
undecimll have someone to skype with18:09
ljunggreni can join if you like undecim18:09
KavanSif you get a few people on, you can text chat....which is like skyping but better18:09
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undecimljunggren, i'm not there... its someone else18:09
ljunggrenundecim: im there alone now18:09
undecimkat_, Does skype show up in your volume settings?18:09
undecimthere's #skype, and ##skype, with a current total of 3 people. Suffice to say, there is not a skype support channel.18:10
kat_no18:11
kat_undecim no it doesn't18:12
undecimkat_, have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SkypeTroubleshooting18:14
kat_undecim no sir I have not. I am running the system checker thingy right now and as soon as it's complete I will look at that and get back to you. I also just installed some updates.18:15
monnerhi, I buy laptop Dell inspiron15 and it comes with ubunut 12.04.1 LST,ok. I dont know What the Default password of the Root user?18:15
undecimmonner, there may not be a default password18:15
theadminmonner: None.18:15
theadminmonner: Use sudo to run commands as root.18:15
theadmin!sudo18:15
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo18:15
monnerbut it ask me the password win I want update or install Programs18:20
theadminmonner: That's your user password.18:21
theadminmonner: The same one you use to log in.18:21
OerHeksmonner, after you bought that laptop, the 1st account you created has root privileges18:22
conallIs there any software on ubuntu for bypassing a SIM lock on an android?18:23
monnerok, I well try,Thank you18:24
daftykinsconall: no and that's inappropriate for this channel and network18:24
conalldaftykins, Ok, sorry18:24
Guest1Are there any possible problems when compiling one part of a program, a library and then using it with another one, an app (or few apps) installed from repositories?18:25
jareddlchey guys is there a command that will list all utilities a system has for editing files?18:25
theadminjareddlc: Not really, but well... Ubuntu always has Nano preinstalled, and a basic version of Vim18:26
katyeah, did the updates, still doesn't work18:26
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theadminjareddlc: Besides, "files" is very generic. I assume you mean text files.18:26
jareddlctheadmin: iits a question in a linux course18:27
juan_hellow18:28
OerHeksGuest1, possible, yes.18:29
jareddlctheadmin: is there someting to list text editors? its very ambigous question so i dont know what they mean18:29
theadminjareddlc: What's the question, exactly?18:29
theadminLike, exactly how it's written18:30
OerHeksjareddlc, ubottu can tell some18:30
daftykinsif it's a course, surely it has the answer.18:30
OerHeks!ide18:30
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator18:30
OerHeks!editor18:30
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code18:30
jareddlc"how can you find out which utilities are available on your system for editing files?" theadmin18:30
theadminjareddlc: That's... a really badly phrased questions.18:30
jareddlcagreed18:30
Guest1What is the lightest web browser that doesn't lack in terms of security or web technologies support?18:31
theadminThere's no command that would list all text editors, and the definition of "file" is... bad18:31
theadminGuest1: Eh, I'd say Chromium18:31
theadmin...basically everything else does lag behind. Even Firefox.18:31
leafybasilI have been trying to get my keyboard settings right for over an hour, I have a macbook pro (uk), and the 'Keyboard Layout' that I'm shown is correct, but the button key mappings are not and I dont understand why.18:31
theadminleafybasil: Apart from the layout, you should be able to select a keyboard model.18:32
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theadminleafybasil: Make sure you have the right one selected.18:32
leafybasiltheadmin: when you say that, where?18:32
jareddlcyeah theadmin it sucks18:32
theadminleafybasil: Hm. I wish I'd remember.18:32
leafybasiltheadmin: from the systray icon I can choose ENglish UK and US18:32
jareddlcwhich is why i decided to see if somenone here knew about it :)18:32
leafybasiland see the chart18:32
theadminleafybasil: Not that, it's somewhere under System Settings -> Keyboard18:32
leafybasiltheadmin: i'm new to unity, i have no idea how to get to system settings anymore18:33
theadminleafybasil: Weird gear thing in top right -> System Settings18:33
leafybasiltheadmin: right I've been on this dialogue before, I have no option to change keyboard, I have repeat rate and blink rate, and I have shortcuts but no option to set/change keyboard18:34
RedheadedCupcakeanyone have any idea on this skype deal?18:34
theadminRedheadedCupcake: Eh?18:34
ikoniaSkype deal ?18:34
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RedheadedCupcakeSkype video works but I can't hear/talk18:34
pragmaticenigmaI'm currently experiencing an issue with scp-dbus-services.py. When ever I print something, I get a blank space in my notification area in the taskbar. Normally when printing completes the notification goes away. does anyone know how to fix it?18:34
theadminleafybasil: Blah... I'll have to check but for that I need to grab an Ubuntu ISO and stuff. This will take a while...18:35
RedheadedCupcakemic and speakers don't work on skype and only skype.18:35
bubbasauresRedheadedCupcake, ubnutu repos version?18:35
theadminpragmaticenigma: It's probably the print job notification and your icon is missing.18:35
GraemeLionRedheadedCupcake: Are you using Pulseaudio?18:35
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: so that suggests to me skype is possibly using the wrong sound device indentifier/device files18:35
RedheadedCupcakeeeek I don't know guys18:35
leafybasiltheadmin: I'll continue to google, but as yet nothing has worked, given it's running in VMware fusion, and there are a finite number of mac models + keyboards, it feels like this should be a solved problem.18:35
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: first question is "how did you install skype"18:35
leafybasiltheadmin: that was an observation rather than a complaint18:36
RedheadedCupcakeI'm okay-ish with this. if you tell me what to put into terminal, I follow instructions very well...18:36
pragmaticenigmatheadmin, shouldn't the notification disappear when printing is complete? Is there any packages I might be missing that need to be installed for the icon to appear normally?18:36
RedheadedCupcakeikonia I went to the website and downloaded it from there. They didn't have the 64 bit version so I I dl'd the 32 bit for 14.04 LTS then I clicked on it in my dl's folder and it opened up in the software center18:37
Rapturehow to manually update ntp to 4.2.8?18:37
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: what version of ubuntu are you using ?18:37
xanguaRapture: by manually compiling18:37
RedheadedCupcakeikonia in the skype settings for mic and speakers it says virtual device and when I click the box to select something else there is nothing else to select18:38
RaptureXangua: link to steps or instructions?18:38
RedheadedCupcake14.04 LTS18:38
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: in options what is your microphone/speakers/ringing setting18:38
pragmaticenigmaRedheadedCupcake, are you able to use your mic and speakers normally with other applications?18:38
leafybasiltheadmin: okay under 'text entry' I can add input sources, which appear to be keyboards...18:38
francesco_ciao18:38
RedheadedCupcakeikonia "virtual device" all 318:39
xangua!compile | Rapture18:39
ubottuRapture: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall18:39
xanguait depends to the program itself, but the recommended is to install from software respositoriories18:39
RedheadedCupcakepragmaticenigma yes I am18:39
jareddlctheadmin: i just asked a student, they said they wrote down, "apropos editor"18:39
francesco_!list18:39
ubottufrancesco_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:39
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: in the drop downs do you have "PulseAudio" as an option18:40
pragmaticenigmaRapture, if you are looking to make sure you version of NTP is patched against the latest vulnerability, the patch has been already applied through your regular system updates18:40
RedheadedCupcakeno18:40
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: what options do you have18:40
RedheadedCupcakeThere are no other options other than virtual device18:40
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: that sounds like there is your problem18:40
Rapturepragmaticenigma: # ntpd --version18:40
Rapturentpd 4.2.6p518:40
RedheadedCupcakeikonia OK wonderful, how do we correct this problem?18:41
ikoniaRapture: why do you want a different version ?18:41
Raptureikonia: I just want to make sure it's not vulnerable18:41
ikoniaRapture: right - so use the ubuntu version - security fixes get back ported18:41
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: so thats the key question, why / what is your virtual device18:42
pragmaticenigmaRapture, version numbers will not always match. When patches are backported, the version number doesn't change18:42
Rapturehow to tell if it's patched?18:42
ikoniaRapture: is it from the repos18:42
RedheadedCupcakeikonia i don't know. I don't have anything but my mouse plugged in and don't have a virtual device -- I don't even know what that means!18:42
Raptureikonia: this is an ec2 instance18:43
ikoniaRapture: is the package from the ubuntu repos18:43
Raptureikonia: I assume so? I just did apt-get install ntp18:43
ikoniaRapture: check18:43
Rapturehow?18:44
ikoniaRapture: right - I'm not being mean here, but you don't know how to check where you package comes from - but you feel you are qualified to judge if it's secure or not ?18:44
Raptureikonia: I got an email from AWS saying it should be patched. I never said I was qualified18:44
ikoniaRapture: then if they have mailed you to say it's patched - why are you looking to update ?18:45
pragmaticenigmaRapture, then you should be contacting Amazon on how you can verify or trust the notification they sent you. This is not the correct forum for your question18:45
PiciRapture: Do you mean that they emailed saying that you should patch it, or that it has already been patched?18:45
Raptureikonia: re-read...they said it should be patched18:45
LonelyDanbohow do I find out of my PDF viewer communicates what I'm looking at to any online sites?18:46
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: if you run alsamixer - do you see volume levels18:46
ikoniaRapture: right - so if you're on the current version from their repo......it's patched18:46
ikoniaRapture: why are you trying to upgrade if they are saying they have patched their version18:46
ki7mtThat's how Amz pawns off the responsibility, by saying "it should be" x,y,z18:46
pragmaticenigmaikonia, Pici et al, Rapture should be contacting Amazon for support.18:46
Piciikonia: I think Rapture is say that AWS said that "you should patch this" rather than "we have patched this"18:47
RedheadedCupcakeikonia: how do I run that18:47
ikoniaPici: which seems unlikley for them to say "you should patch our software"18:47
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: the command is alsamixer18:47
pragmaticenigmaPici, that is not what he said... he said he got an e-mail that stated it was patched, he wants to verify18:47
Piciikonia, pragmaticenigma: I'm unsure how AWS distributes Ubuntu packages.  I'll go back to lurking now :)18:48
RedheadedCupcakeikonia yes I see them.18:48
ikoniaPici: I'm trying to find out the same too, it looks like it's just a deb mirror18:48
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: is the volume up on them ?18:48
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ikoniawhat is the "card" listed as ?18:48
pragmaticenigmaPici, it's best that Rapture takes that question to Amazon support. He pays for a service and they should be providing support for him18:48
RedheadedCupcakeikonia yes, it is. I ran the system test and it worked. I can hear stuff, it's just skype that isn't doing what it should18:49
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: what is the "card" listed as ?18:49
egregiushi18:50
egregiusi think my video software isnt displaying my scat porn properly18:51
egregiusthe brown looks purple18:51
RedheadedCupcake HDA Intel PCH18:51
xubuntu91wI can't launch Arista it says "Attempt to unlock mutex that was not locked Abandon (core dumped)" in the terminal18:51
RedheadedCupcakeikonia  HDA Intel PCH18:51
egregiuscupcake do you have a penis?18:52
RedheadedCupcakeno18:52
RedheadedCupcakedo you18:52
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: change it to the virtual one18:52
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: sadly I have to go18:52
RedheadedCupcakeikonia how do i change it18:52
RedheadedCupcakeikonia there isn't an option for a virtual one, I have to go too.18:54
c_nickAnyone tried to run  Windows 98 from Virtual Box18:54
theadminc_nick: Yes, that works.18:54
c_nicktheadmin, when i try it bugs out at the installation start up18:55
theadminc_nick: Well, that's honestly not an Ubuntu problem.18:55
c_nickwould the actual hardware 64 bit be an issue?18:55
c_nickhmm yeah just wanted a user perspective18:56
theadminMeh, I used it on a 64-bit computer18:56
leafybasilIf I see something "generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-32-generic", does this mean ill need to reboot to see changes?18:56
c_nickok thanks theadmin18:56
c_nickand its Virtual Box on Windows or Linux18:56
theadminThey're the same, eh.18:57
Picileafybasil: yes.18:57
leafybasilPici: so changing my keyboard options, means rebooting?18:57
Picileafybasil: Without know what command you ran to get that, I wouldn't be able to say for sure.18:58
leafybasilPici: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration18:58
leafybasilIn a vain attempt to get a keyboard to work.18:59
kalitest1what now?18:59
Picileafybasil: hm.  It may not require a reboot... but its hard to say for sure.  although, if it ended up regenerating that, I would guess that it would.  Sorry for the guessing :/19:00
leafybasilPici: I can't stomach the idea that changing keyboard settings would require a reboot, this isn't windows.19:00
pais it normal that killling (with SIGKILL) dhcpd cause it to respawn?19:01
Picileafybasil: Feels weird to me too. It really should just be changing things in /etc/default/keyboard...19:02
leafybasilI'm changing settings like a madman, and none of them are having any impact19:03
leafybasilHow can it be this hard to configure a keyboard.19:03
Picileafybasil: it looks like you may be able to call service console-setup reload.19:05
leafybasilPici: strangely I just got one of the keys to work through some change, but others are broken that ahve worked up until now :P  do you mean 'sudo service console-setup reload'19:06
Picileafybasil: yes19:06
RobinHood2015I have an internal hard drive with Windows and an external hard drive on which I have installed Ubuntu. Is it possible to add this Ubuntu installation to the Windows Boot Manager on my internal hard drive?19:06
Picileafybasil: Is this a mac?19:06
theadminRobinHood2015: No, simply because the Windows boot manager can't boot anything except Windows.19:06
leafybasilPici: yeah it is, can move to PM if you prefer?19:07
leafybasilPici: almost all of the keys are working now19:07
Picileafybasil: here is fine.  I was just looking at the source for /bin/setupcon and there were references to Macs... (although I guess it really says PPC Macs which you probably don't have)19:08
bubbasauresRobinHood2015, bcd can be modified, ask in ##windows probably, there is easybcd for another option.19:08
leafybasilPici: so the systray icon for language/keyboard lets me select 'input sources', changing between all of them makes no difference at all19:08
Picileafybasil: Anyway, the kernel and rebooting stuff looks like it is to make sure that the keyboard is setup early enough in the boot sequence so that it can be used properly if you happen to drop to single user mode or similar before the rest of the boot sequence happens.19:09
leafybasilPici: nah, BMP19:09
leafybasilPici: that would make sense19:09
Picileafybasil: Sadly, I'm not much of a GUI person, I tend to stay on the server side of things, so I'm not really going to be able to help with systray stuff.19:09
leafybasilPici: well I'm assuming that's just a GUI for setting stuff in Xorg, I used to run arch, I just wanted something that required less setup this time.19:10
pragmaticenigmaRobinHood2015, It is not recommended to setup external devices as a permanent option to boot from. if the drive is disconnected or damanged, you will not be able to boot your computer19:11
pragmaticenigmaDoes anyone know how to get scp-dbus-services.py to close itself when I'm done printing. It leaves a corrupted blank space in my taskbar when I finish printing.19:14
YamakasYhi guys19:16
daftykinshi19:17
YamakasYI´m looking for a way which can override a file when I update a package which contains the same file, but without --force-overwrite19:17
imbezolwhich packages, which file, and why?19:18
YamakasYjust because I need to19:19
YamakasYsome /home/foo/bla.etx19:19
YamakasYetx19:19
YamakasYext19:19
YamakasYI create this package myself19:19
pragmaticenigmaYamakasY, it helps to know what packages and files so we have context on what you are attempting to do19:20
geniiwhy not .deb ?19:20
YamakasYpragmaticenigma, just a file in a deb19:20
YamakasYfull path, you know how to create a deb I guess ?19:20
geniiYou should instead just install to /usr/local  and not overwrite any system files19:21
geniior the /opt  or so on19:21
YamakasYgenii, there are no rules about it ;)19:22
imbezoli think the basic feeling is that what you're trying to do is a bad idea. why would you want to?19:22
geniiThere are actually guidelines for this19:22
geniiso " no rules about this" is untrue19:22
YamakasYimbezol, because I created some small program I need to install and my update has the same names file19:22
YamakasYso it needs to override the updated version19:22
imbezolsame names as what?19:23
YamakasYfilename19:23
imbezolyour update is not the same package name though?19:23
YamakasYit is and it needs to be also19:23
jhutchinsYamakasY: That should work, as long as you use a reasonable version number for your package.  That's how files that don't incorporate version numbers are updated after all.19:23
YamakasYjhutchins, mhh weird it complains the files are the same, which are not19:24
YamakasYthe package has a different version number19:24
jhutchinsYamakasY: I believe the wiki has information on custom packaging.  I don't know exactly where.19:24
YamakasYyeah I already made a couple but this package doesn´t go well19:25
YamakasYI wonder if it really compares the packages inside19:26
YamakasYI mean, the files19:26
leafybasilPici: seems for the most part to work, now just a small issue with # and £ which are the same key on my keyboard19:28
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astropirateHello friends19:32
astropirateHow do I set JSON value to an environment variable?19:32
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leafybasilHmm on other OSes I usually compiled DWM and DMENU with my preferences, how do you configure them on ubuntu?  They don't seem to have configs in /etc19:35
u-bot019:38
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NinjaCowboyIs there any way to install Qemu 2.x on Ubuntu 12.04. I downloaded the source code, but doing ./configure --enable-libusb gives me this error ERROR: User requested feature libusb configure was not able to find it.19:52
NinjaCowboyI do have libusb and libusb-dev already installed, though.19:53
NinjaCowboyI tried using qemu 1.0 which is the version in the repositories, but it always hangs about a minute after starting a VM.19:54
kostkon!info firefox trusty19:57
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 34.0+build2-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 (trusty), package size 37693 kB, installed size 85510 kB19:57
theadminastropirate: That doesn't make any sense. JSON is just a way to represent data.20:04
theadminastropirate: How to get it depends on your programming language.20:05
astropiratetheadmin, you don't make any sense20:05
astropiratetheadmin, kidding. I saw the errors of my ways and have come up with a better solution20:05
theadminErr, okay20:05
astropiratetheadmin, thank you good sir20:05
astropirateand/or ma'am20:05
theadminGlad you figured it out20:06
jordohello does anyone think they can help me figure out why i cant download any apps or update my system20:08
retroisprestoHai~20:09
m1dnight_guys im installing ubuntu on a dual boot machine, but i forgot where I put my bootloader20:09
daftykinsjordanm: "cat /etc/issue" to start with20:09
m1dnight_sda (ubuntu drive), sdb (windows drive) or somewhere else?20:09
hydrajumpanyone know how to add a custom python indicator to the unity-greeter?20:09
NinjaCowboysudo apt-get remove qemu20:10
NinjaCowboyWhoops, wrong window. sorry.20:10
daftykinsmidnightcommand: is Windows already on the second? what's the order of events here...20:10
RedheadedCupcakeOk I am back, can someone please help me with my Skype issue20:10
daftykinsmidnightcommand: oops sorry20:10
daftykinsm1dnight_: ^20:10
retroisprestodaftykins20:10
daftykinsretroispresto?20:10
m1dnight_daftykins: yes it is already on there. ubuntu is/was on there too20:11
retroisprestoWould I be helping Ubuntu's development if I used an Alpha or daily build in a VM and reported bugs to launchpad?20:11
m1dnight_/dev/sda is ubuntu, /dev/sdb is Windows20:11
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daftykinsm1dnight_: so the live session sees the disks swapped?20:11
m1dnight_yes20:11
theadminretroispresto: Certainly, you can find info on the current testing version and discuss it at #ubuntu+120:12
daftykinsretroispresto: give them a shout in #ubuntu+1 - i don't have a clue on contribution20:12
daftykins!contribute20:12
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu20:12
daftykinsretroispresto: ^ that might be handy though20:12
retroisprestoThanks ^^20:12
geniihemingway20:12
undecimm1dnight_, sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=120:13
undecimm1dnight_, if you see the word "Grub" amongst gibberish, that's probably your bootloader20:13
amriunixhi guys !! i have this kind of error in curl !!! "(6) Could not resolve host:" - any idea ???20:13
daftykinsamriunix: yeah busted DNS or the host doesn't exist20:14
daftykinstry by IP to confirm20:14
ikoniayour dns for that url is not working20:14
amriunixbro my dns 8.8.8.8 !!! how can this possible !!! and i was using this of web terminal represent. http://showterm.io20:15
daftykinsamriunix: #1 suggestion - don't bring the street talk in here.20:15
amriunixdaftykins: ok sorry !!20:15
daftykinsamriunix: "dig domain.com" resolve ?20:16
ikoniaamriunix: how did you set your dns to 8.8.8.8 ?20:16
amriunixikonia: /etc/resolv.conf and update with "resolvconf -u"20:17
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ikoniathats not how you use it20:18
Guest70399 does any one know how to use bluefish editor ?20:18
ikoniaubuntu uses dnsmasq20:18
amriunixikonia: Sorry, but what you mean ??20:19
ikoniaexactly what i sd20:19
ikoniasaid20:19
retroisprestoSo I just go over and grab http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/vivid-desktop-i386.iso and I can start helping?20:20
ikoniaretroispresto: ?20:21
undecimretroispresto, pretty much20:21
undecimretroispresto, more bug reports give the devs more info to find out what is causing a bug20:22
ikoniathat is not true20:22
ikoniablind bug reports do not help20:22
undecimikonia, yeah, but those can be ignored20:22
ikoniaundecim: you don't know until you investigate them20:22
ikoniait wastes time and effort20:23
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Guest70399 does any one know how to use bluefish editor ?20:24
Guest70399 does any one know how to use bluefish editor ?20:25
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Guest70399or wr i cn get get help20:25
ikoniatried the bluefish support services ?20:25
Guest70399is this online or chat?20:26
ikonialook on the website what options they offer20:26
Guest70399ikonia, is this online or chat?20:26
ikonialook on the website what options they offer20:26
Guest70399ikonia,  do u know of any room in here i can go ask ?20:26
ikonialook on the website what options they offer20:27
Guest70399ikonia,  its really simple but im used to using dreamweaver20:27
ikonialook on the website what options they offer20:27
O_OniGirihi there, I just received my new HP zbook 14 with Windows pre installed. today I tried to install xubuntu while removing Windows. unfortunately no luck. I am getting a message saying: no bootable image was found.20:27
gr33n7007his ikonia a bot lol :)20:27
ikoniahe's not20:28
gr33n7007hI know, jk :)20:28
undecimYes he is. He's just well programmed20:28
undecimO_OniGiri, Did you complete the install process?20:28
O_OniGiriyes I did20:28
daftykinsO_OniGiri: enter the EFI and check what the boot entry is20:28
hoogeveenso, i was trying to kickstart ubuntu 14.04.1 tls over NFS and it appears from the out-of-date doc that pulling pkgs from nfs is not yet supported?20:28
hoogeveenis this true?20:28
undecimO_OniGiri, What version of windows was installed?20:28
O_OniGiri8.1 I think20:28
hoogeveeni see that one can specify the kickstart config file via nfs, but the actual archive must be a cdrom?20:29
undecimO_OniGiri, You may need to disable Secure Boot20:29
hoogeveenthe install fails looking for an ISO in the cdrom drive (which, of course, doesn't exist)20:29
O_OniGiriI already disabled secure boot20:30
ikoniahoogeveen: depends how you are trying to pull the packages20:30
hoogeveenover nfs?20:30
jhutchinshoogeveen: I don't know what the failure mode is, but it's supposed to reject a foreign OS on a CD.20:30
ikoniahoogeveen: no, thats the file store20:30
hoogeveenthere is no cd in the drive20:30
ikoniahoogeveen: how are you trying to pull them20:30
jhutchinshoogeveen: Sorry, crossthread.20:30
hoogeveeni'm not sure.   the same way that works with redhat and OEL.20:30
hoogeveenwhatever method is used there.20:30
jhutchinsO_OniGiri: How did you prepare the boot media (and what is it)?20:31
hoogeveeni believe that the nfs mount the directory tree containing the ISO20:31
hoogeveenthen copy from there.20:31
ikoniahoogeveen: well, no you're not as redhat pulls rpms with the rpm/yum command20:31
ikoniahoogeveen: ubuntu doens't do that - so I'm asking how your install process is installing/pulling the packages20:31
jhutchinshoogeveen: Did you create the boot media with unetbootin?20:31
O_OniGiribrb20:32
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O_OniGirijhutchins not sure what you mean,  but the laptop has a msata ssd 128gb and a hdd 500gb20:35
undecimO_OniGiri, How did you load Ubuntu? A thumb drive?20:36
O_OniGiriyeah I made a bootable usb20:36
undecimO_OniGiri, how?20:37
O_OniGiriI used Rufus to make the bootable usb20:37
O_OniGiriI just ran boot-repair using xubuntu from usb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9751855/20:37
daftykinsi can't stand the logs from that program, it's like reading a mini novel20:38
daftykinsthen being tested on it afterwards =|20:38
jhutchinsHm, Rufus doesn't seem to have an option to verify the burn.20:38
O_OniGiribut I am pretty sure that it is correctly burned20:39
daftykinsyou don't burn to USB.20:39
jhutchinsO_OniGiri: Did you verify the iso?20:39
O_OniGiriI used the same USB to install xubuntu on an desktop20:39
jhutchinsdaftykins: What verb do you suggest?20:39
daftykinstransfer20:39
jhutchinsO_OniGiri: So verified as bootable.20:39
undecimO_OniGiri, see if "Grub", "Ubuntu" or "Xubuntu" shows up in your boot options in Setup20:40
O_OniGiriI have the feeling though that my computer is only searching the hdd for the bootable image and not the ssd20:40
O_OniGiriundecim if I go to boot options it does show ubuntu20:41
undecimO_OniGiri, I would imagine that the SSD is where the computer would be configured to boot from... It's faster for booting than HDD20:41
O_OniGiriundecim, I would think so too20:42
juan_hola20:42
O_OniGiriAnyways xubuntu boots correctly if chosen from boot menu20:42
undecimO_OniGiri, via UEFI/Bios setup?20:43
daftykinsO_OniGiri: as on my first reply, enter the EFI and change the boot device :)20:43
O_OniGiridaftykins, how do I enter efi?20:43
daftykinsdepends on machine and brand20:43
O_OniGiriit's a hp20:44
daftykinsconsult your manual20:44
grogoreohi20:44
undecimO_OniGiri, Usually Esc, F2, or Del key during early boot20:44
daftykinstypically F2, F12, delete... sometimes a dedicated button from power off...20:44
O_OniGiriand then go into bios settings?20:45
undecimO_OniGiri, sometimes I just press all the top row keys20:45
daftykinsO_OniGiri: EFI = new name, BIOS replacement. so yeah, same thing20:45
grogoreoI've Ubuntu installed (with Unity) but recently tried i3 but when I play videos the picture appears to tear which it doesn't do when using Unity. Any ideas why?20:45
jmwAt leaston HP Z-Workstations, [ESC] will bring up a full menu of choices pre-boot.20:45
daftykinsgrogoreo: 3D accel probably. what graphics?20:46
O_OniGiriI have the following order currently : m2 ssd hard drive,  os  boot manager, usb hard drive, ipv4,ipv6, SD card, generic USB, custom boot20:47
grogoreodaftykins, Intel graphics on i3 laptop. I wondered if it was necessary for a compositor so tried compton however that didn't help. Video smooth in Unity, don't get the difference.20:47
RedheadedCupcakecan someone help me with my mic/speakers they aren't working in Skype but they work everywhere else20:47
daftykinsgrogoreo: you can have a go at applying tearfree to your xorg.conf to resolve. as per - http://askubuntu.com/questions/418398/tear-free-disabled-in-intel-graphics-tearing-in-xubuntu20:48
O_OniGirithat order results in an error20:49
daftykinsO_OniGiri: which order? SSD first? yeah not surprising, change it to 'custom boot manager first' perhaps20:49
daftykinsa pic would be nice though20:49
grogoreodaftykins, thanks I'll have a look. Would you know what Unity is specifically doing to not need that.20:50
profitexisting :D20:50
daftykinsgrogoreo: not a clue20:50
O_OniGiridaftykins I could make a picture if you want...20:51
daftykinsthough i've seen people have the tearing in unity too, so it's a total guess20:51
grogoreodaftykins, fair do's. thanks20:51
daftykinsO_OniGiri: eh, you can just experiment with the options there :> probably quicker20:51
lustichey! I installed another distro alongside Ubuntu,  the grub menu does not show up after I start my laptop,  is there a easy to use tool to resolve this ?20:52
profitboot into rescue, # update-grub20:53
profitor grub-install /dev/sdX20:53
lusticapt-get grub install ?20:53
O_OniGiridaftykins custom boot freezes my laptop at the hp logo splash screen20:53
profitgrub-install should be installed already as part of your ubuntu install20:54
profitupdate-grub is a command to update grub's config files, grub-install writes the bootloader somehwere20:54
daftykinsO_OniGiri: you'll never guess what i suggest...20:54
O_OniGiriI pressed the power button already20:54
lusticI need to boot into rescue to execute update-grub?20:54
RedheadedCupcakeanyone....?20:54
profitlustic: yeah so that you have a shell to work off of. you'll want to chroot into your ubuntu install20:55
lusticI'm pretty noob for that, : /20:55
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, what's your problem exactly20:55
O_OniGiridaftykins nothing fixes the problem :(20:56
RedheadedCupcakekostkon I dl'd Skype from the website, opened it, it took me to the software center, installed it. Cam works but speakers and mic do not20:56
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, what happens when you start a call then20:57
daftykinsO_OniGiri: nothing at all huh? as in no entry at all?20:57
RedheadedCupcakekostkon it calls but the other person can't hear me and i can't hear them20:57
O_OniGiridaftykins yeah no entry at all20:57
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: in alsa mixer what devices do you have ?20:57
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, first of all, you better install the version from the ubuntu repos20:58
RedheadedCupcakekostkon in settings it's saying I have it set to "virtual device"20:58
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, that's normal20:58
RedheadedCupcakekostkon can you give me the magic terminal code for that20:58
daftykinsO_OniGiri: one idea, install GRUB to the SSD to pass over to the HDD... alternative idea, check for EFI (BIOS) updates to the machine that avoid this issue. or - scour the EFI for some other setting that might influence this20:59
RedheadedCupcakekostkon i'm iffy with ubuntu, but i follow directions really well. so you tell me what to do and i will do it. but i don't know what to enter into terminal so you'll have to tell me what to copy/paste when you want me to use terminal20:59
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, remove the current one, then in the software centre, click Edit -> Software Sources, then 3rd party software and then enable the Partner repository20:59
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: ps -ef | grep pulse20:59
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: what do you get20:59
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lustic_hmmm21:00
RedheadedCupcakeikonia http://pastebin.com/52L6X2Dh21:00
lustic_profit,  my connection died can you tell me one more time ?21:01
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: looks good21:01
ikonialustic_: there is no one called profit in here21:01
RedheadedCupcakeikonia I am going to do what kostkon suggested by removing it.21:01
Newyorkadamhi, I’m pretty new to ubuntu. I run 14.04 on a digitalocean droplet. I’m having a slight problem:21:01
O_OniGiridaftykins how do I install grub on my SSD?21:01
O_OniGiridaftykins nvm I will google it21:01
NewyorkadamI run the command “mv /var/www/html/games/wordpress/ /var/www/html/games”21:01
ikoniaNewyorkadam: talk to digitalocean - they change the install to a custom setup21:02
RedheadedCupcakekostkon, ikonia can either of you give me the terminal command to remove skype?21:02
Newyorkadamand get an error: “mv: ‘/var/www/html/games/wordpress/’ and ‘/var/www/html/games/wordpress’ are the same file”21:02
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: apt-get purge skype21:02
Newyorkadamikonia: I’ve got it all set up. I just ran into this one problem21:02
ikoniaNewyorkadam: you're moving it to the same place21:02
daftykinsO_OniGiri: that was probably the least good idea :>21:02
ikoniaNewyorkadam: hence why they are the same21:02
Newyorkadamikonia: but they’re clearing different files21:02
shiggitayhi guys... I have a question: how hard would it be to compile a custom kernel for Ubuntu? I'd like to install elementary os onto my baytrail tablet, but it doesn't have the required eMMC drivers to see the storage.21:02
ikoniaNewyorkadam: not according to that command21:02
Newyorkadamor folders I should say21:02
Newyorkadamikonia: isn’t that moving the /games/wordpress to /games? I’m afraid I don’t understand21:03
lustic_I installed another distro alongside Ubuntu, no grub menu appears upon boot,  someone already gave me the solution but I lost the page here and had to reconnect : /  care to answer?21:03
ikoniaNewyorkadam: no21:03
RedheadedCupcakeikonia do you think the problem is because i installed the 32 bit version and my laptop is 64 bit?21:03
daftykinsNewyorkadam: yeah your command syntax is wrong, "mv /var/www/html/games/wordpress /var/www/html/games/"21:03
RedheadedCupcakeikonia whatever you told me to do is finished.21:03
ikoniaNewyorkadam: and moving /games/wordpress to /games - is the same place21:03
Newyorkadamikonia: what I’m trying to do is move the files that are under /games/wordpress to just under /games/21:04
Jordan_Ulustic_: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?21:04
daftykinsNewyorkadam: oops i messed up too!21:04
daftykinsNewyorkadam: yeah your command syntax is wrong, "mv /var/www/html/games/wordpress /var/www/html/"21:04
Newyorkadamdaftykins: haha21:04
theadminNewyorkadam: Then you want to do: mv /var/www/html/games/wordpress/{*,.*} /var/www/html/games/21:04
ikoniaNewyorkadam: then stop trying to move the games directory21:04
O_OniGiridaftykins btw,  during the xubuntu installation I noticed something, not sure if it matters. But sda was my HDD and sdb was my ssd21:04
shiggitayanyone?21:04
lustic_jordan - /dev/sda4:Debian GNU/Linux (Kali Linux 1.0.9):Debian:linux21:04
O_OniGiridaftykins: does it matter?21:04
ikoniashiggitay: talk to elementary teams21:04
ikoniashiggitay: elemntary is not ubuntu21:05
daftykinsshiggitay: elementary is not on topic here.21:05
shiggitayisn't elementary ubuntu-based though?21:05
daftykinsO_OniGiri: which OS is going where and what size are each again?21:05
ikoniashiggitay: it's not ubuntu though21:05
pragmaticenigma!elementary21:05
ubottuElementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.21:05
daftykinsshiggitay: yes, but they have their own problems.21:05
shiggitayokay fair enough21:05
shiggitaythanks21:05
Newyorkadamtheadmin: what’s the {*,.*}?21:05
theadminNewyorkadam: bash magic. * matches all normal files, .* matches all hidden files21:05
theadminNewyorkadam: So we combine both of those and21:06
theadminMatch all files21:06
O_OniGirisda (hdd 500gb) would be my /home, sdb (ssd 128gb) would be my /21:06
lustic_jordan - /dev/sda4:Debian GNU/Linux (Kali Linux 1.0.9):Debian:linux21:06
O_OniGiriswap would also be on my hdd21:07
RedheadedCupcakeikonia: it's finished...21:07
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: ? and21:07
lustic_?21:07
RedheadedCupcakeit was removed21:07
daftykinsO_OniGiri: is this machine accessible enough that you could pop out the HDD for the install?21:07
isifreekHow do I go about finding out how portable/standard a given util is?21:07
ikoniaisifreek: what do you mean ?21:07
lustic_I installed another distro alongside Ubuntu, no grub menu appears upon boot,  someone already gave me the solution but I lost the page here and had to reconnect : /  care to answer?21:08
O_OniGiridaftykins: I would have to check. BTW off topic, what irc21:08
daftykinsO_OniGiri: 'what IRC' ?21:08
O_OniGiridaftykins nvm my off topic21:08
isifreekikonia: like `id -u` is posix, but `whoami` is not. I only know that because i asked on IRC.21:09
daftykinsthat seemed like part of a question21:09
lustic_I installed another distro alongside ubuntu,  no grub menu appears upon boot,  how can I easily fix this ?21:09
Newyorkadamtheadmin: mv: cannot move ‘/var/www/html/games/wordpress/..’ to ‘/var/www/html/games/..’: Device or resource busy21:09
isifreekikonia: i've run into this many times. atm im trying to figure out `host` v `dig`21:09
theadminNewyorkadam: You can't do that...21:09
O_OniGiridaftykins I wanted to ask if you know a nice irc for Android? since it's kinda hard to read for me21:09
ikoniaisifreek: what do you mean host v dig ?21:09
ikoniaisifreek: what is the actual problem ?21:09
Newyorkadamtheadmin: I typed in whta you told me to21:10
daftykinsO_OniGiri: i've only ever used andchat before, if we're talking clients.21:10
theadminNewyorkadam: Ah, never mind, just ignore that, that's to be expected21:10
theadminNewyorkadam: The files should have been moved anyway.21:10
isifreekikonia: they do the same thing essentially (like `ip` and `route` but route is deprecated which I only know because I asked on IRC lol)21:10
ikoniaisifreek: so what's the problem ?21:10
O_OniGiridaftykins: another question, do you type my name if you reply? or is there another way?  sorry for off topic21:11
Newyorkadamtheadmin: they were! thanks :D21:11
Newyorkadamwhy did I get that error?21:11
isifreekikonia: how do i find out the diff without having to ask on irc and wait for a response?21:11
theadminNewyorkadam: .* also matches .., that is, the parent directory21:11
tytanI have a PC with a Core 2 Quad and Zotac nVidia GT 720. I can't install the graphics driver :(21:11
isifreekand by "the diff" i mean: which one should i use and why21:11
ikoniaisifreek: what do you mean "the diff" ?? they are different commands21:11
ikoniaisifreek: use whatever YOU like to do the job you want to get done21:11
theadminNewyorkadam: But, eh... It can't move the parent directory while operating on its child so that's still safe21:11
Newyorkadamtheadmin: alright, thanks. want a tip in bitcoin?21:11
ikoniaisifreek: there is general info on the web21:11
daftykinsO_OniGiri: i hit o, then tab21:11
theadminNewyorkadam: No, Bitcoin is illegal in my country. Thanks though21:11
Newyorkadamyep. russia?21:12
CtrlAltDeliciousHey everyone21:12
theadminYeah.21:12
stoogenmeyerhi! I've got an issue that upon coming back from suspend my laptop will sometimes have a very dim screen which cant be brightened up using the brightness control, and sometimes it comes back normally. furthermore, if i reboot it, it will be back to normal. also if I'm connecting and disconnecting to an external monitor it sometimes will solve the issue as well. Can someone help me to solve this issue without having to reboot21:12
stoogenmeyer the computer??21:12
Newyorkadamhaha :p thanks again21:12
RedheadedCupcakeikonia: it says that it was uninstalled successfull21:12
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: yes, you've said that a few times21:12
isifreekikonia: that's def not a satisfactory answer. i suppose i'll just go back to googling :/ i was hoping there was some compatibility reference or something that said where common utils were made (and why if there are other common utils that do the same thing)21:12
daftykinslustic_: did you ask them to help you unbreak the damage their distro did? :P21:13
RedheadedCupcakeikonia: now what do we do/21:13
ikoniaisifreek: that is the realistic answer21:13
ikoniaRedheadedCupcake: what ever you want - I didn't want you to uninstall anything, you wanted to do that, so you take it forward as you see best21:13
O_OniGi61oki21:13
CtrlAltDeliciousHey everyone, question about an app I’m having difficulty compiling.21:13
daftykinsCtrlAltDelicious: still waiting for it... :)21:14
CtrlAltDeliciouslol daftykins21:14
* daftykins does a drumroll21:14
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, did you enable the Partner repo21:14
lustic_daftykins :  ask who ? Ubuntu runs just fine, the other distro is installed on sda4 just fine, the grub menu just doesn't appear,21:14
RedheadedCupcakekostkon i didn't see anything about 3rd party anythings21:14
isifreekikonia: if i followed that, i'd be using `route` right now because i prefer it... `route` is deprecated.21:14
ikoniaisifreek: it's still there though21:15
ikoniaisifreek: you can use route just fine21:15
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, in the menu in the software centre, click on Edit -> Software Sources. Another way to access it would be to open your updater and click on Settings21:15
* isifreek facepalms21:15
O_OniGiriok...  I am back on my tablet21:15
isifreekikonia: what's the point of deprecation then??? lol21:15
CtrlAltDeliciousdaftykins: Im trying to compile hping3 from source... Im getting the following error when doing make:21:15
ikoniaisifreek: it means it's going to be removed and replaced21:15
CtrlAltDelicioushttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/P8g8xhcU21:16
RedheadedCupcakekostkon going to go updater route checking now21:16
CtrlAltDeliciousi do have libpcap installed21:16
isifreekikonia: so you shouldnt use it in new scripts! lol21:16
O_OniGiri daftykins I just used my recovery drive21:16
SeveasCtrlAltDelicious: why not simply install the hping3 package?21:16
RedheadedCupcakekostkon what tab would that option be under21:16
ikoniaisifreek: you can use it just fine21:16
CtrlAltDeliciousSeveas: Oh?21:16
r22erewhy have there been so many Ubuntu base updates over the past couple of days21:17
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, 3rd party software or something similar sounding21:17
hoogeveenjhutchins no, i didn't create the boot media with unetbootin.  i just unpacked the iso into a dir that is available via nfs21:17
isifreekikonia: I basically want this answer for all utils so that I dont have to ask all the time: http://www.quora.com/Bash-shell/What-are-the-differences-between-host-dig-and-nslookup-and-when-should-I-use-each21:17
daftykinsO_OniGiri: err, to do what?21:17
ikoniaisifreek: you're not going to get it in here21:17
ikoniaisifreek: thats called research and different distros use different packages - so it's not always "true" for ubuntu21:17
CtrlAltDeliciouswow21:17
CtrlAltDeliciousSeveas: Didnt even know that was in APT21:17
ikoniaisifreek: again - hence why I say use what you are comfortable with/gets the job done21:17
hoogeveenikonia i don't know how the installer works to pull stuff over.  it is anaconda21:17
SeveasCtrlAltDelicious: always check that first :-)21:17
O_OniGiridaftykins: reinstall Windows21:18
CtrlAltDeliciousSeveas: LMAO  << Dumb ass21:18
CtrlAltDeliciousthanks bro21:18
CtrlAltDeliciousdone...21:18
ikoniahoogeveen: anaconda has many options21:18
isifreekikonia: ya, but some packages are *special* and you'd think thered be a list somewhere.21:18
* isifreek just wants to meet someone who knows of one.21:18
hoogeveeni specify nfs in the kickstart file21:18
ikoniaisifreek: no they are not21:18
ikoniaisifreek: there is no "special" packages21:18
isifreekikonia: id21:18
ikoniaid ?21:18
RedheadedCupcakeKostkon all of the boxes are checked under Ubuntu Software tab21:19
isifreekyou can have expectations of it being there on pretty much any system21:19
ikoniaisifreek: and ?21:19
r22eredoes Ubuntu have greater user privacy then Debian?21:19
isifreekikonia: and that is not an assumption you can make about, say, route21:19
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, that's now the one.21:19
Seveasr22ere: no.21:19
kostkonnot*21:19
ikoniaisifreek: so ?21:19
r22ereSeveas, why doesn't it21:19
Seveasr22ere: why should it?21:20
isifreekisifreek: so therefore, id is specialer21:20
ikoniaisifreek: it's not special at all21:20
RedheadedCupcakekostkon what now?21:20
daftykinsO_OniGiri: oh are you going to reinstall both from scratch?21:20
ikoniaisifreek: you could use "getent" instead of id21:20
r22ereSeveas, because people value their privacy?21:20
ikoniaso you don't have to have id21:20
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, ok if you have enabled it then click on Close.21:20
isifreekikonia: you could write everything in assembly21:20
RedheadedCupcakekostkon It's closed and those boxes have been checked the whole time I've been dealing with this problem.21:21
ikoniaisifreek: you're not making any sense21:21
O_OniGiridaftykins going to reinstall Windows first and afterwards I will try to unintelligible it again and install xubuntu, I know it doesn't make sense21:21
RedheadedCupcakeKostkon how do I get skype from the ubuntu repositories21:21
Seveasr22ere: but what makes you think Debian should be worse?21:21
ikonia!skype | RedheadedCupcake21:21
ubottuRedheadedCupcake: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga21:21
O_OniGiriuninstall*21:21
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, you could paste the output of    apt-cache policy skype21:21
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, for starters, do that21:22
isifreekikonia: getent doesnt serve the same purpose as id. just like assembly doesnt serve the same purpose as tools people actually use for the purpose of writing programs...21:23
RedheadedCupcakekostkon N: Unable to locate package skype21:23
RedheadedCupcakekostkon remember we uninstalled it.21:23
ikoniaisifreek: getent does the same thing as id21:23
isifreekregardless, youve answered my Q somewhere in there, so thanks anyways21:23
isifreekikonia: then why does id exist?21:23
ikoniaisifreek: they are just different / legacy / new options21:23
ikoniaisifreek: hence "use what you like best"21:23
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, have a go at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/14629/how-do-i-enable-the-partner-repository21:24
isifreekikonia: lol what if I like goto and eval best?21:24
isifreekikonia: want me working on your OS?21:24
ikoniaisifreek: thats just a stupid thing to say21:24
ikoniaif you're not going to ask realistic questions and behave like this, you'll just get ignored21:24
isifreekikonia: i'm going by your logic...21:24
ikoniaisifreek: no, you're not21:24
ikoniaisifreek: I'll make it simple21:25
ikoniaisifreek: in linux there are often multiple commands to do the same thing, use the one you like the best21:25
r22erecan Microsoft Office for Apple computers work on Ubuntu?21:25
ikoniathis isn't "programming loops" or anything smart like that, it's just personal preference21:25
daftykinsr22ere: no21:25
ikoniar22ere: no21:25
r22erethat sucks21:25
mojtabaHi, I have recently bought a thinkpad T440s, and I have shrunken the Windows partition, but when I try to install ubuntu on that free partition, it says there is no partition table. Do you know what should I do? (UEFI is enabled in the BIOS too)21:25
isifreekikonia: ok, I will. just please dont recommend that to noobs.21:26
ikoniaisifreek: recommend what ?21:26
r22eremojtaba, what is the free partition formated to21:26
daftykinsmojtaba: you might be booting in the wrong mode, do you see the EFI menu (white writing on black background) or the legacy menu? (purple)21:26
Jordan_Uisifreek: POSIX is a standard for various commands and interfaces for *NIX systems, Linux Standards Base is a standard that tries to define a common base for Linux systems. Neither are ever followed completely (moreso LSB than POSIX), for example LSB dictates that RPM be the package management system in use. These are useful resourses, but by no means a complete answer (there is no single place to find portability ...21:26
Jordan_U... information). Also, manual pages often tell where a command originated, and give some information about portability to other systems.21:26
mojtabar22ere: ext421:26
mojtabadaftykins: I am now in the BIOS setup21:27
hoogeveenunder "missing features" in the auto install doc, it states that it doesn't support: Installation from an archive on a local hard disk or from an NFS archive.21:27
isifreekJordan_U: ahh, I did not know about LSB, thank you! who specifies that? linux foundation?21:27
daftykinshoogeveen: meh, that page is probably ancient. tried #ubuntu-server ?21:28
mojtabadaftykins: secure boot is disabled21:28
hoogeveenso, i was thinking that I can't pass an nfs location to it and have it install.   in any event, with the same install set up, it keeps barfing on a missing cd21:28
O_OniGiridaftykins I am going to reinstall xubuntu now21:28
hoogeveenno, i can go there.21:28
daftykinsmojtaba: that was unnecessary21:28
RedheadedCupcakekostkon, did what that said21:28
mojtabadaftykins: UEFI/Legacy Boot: UEFI Only21:28
hoogeveenthanks, daftykins21:28
daftykinshoogeveen: np21:29
mojtabadaftykins: CSM Support: Yes21:29
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, try giving apt-cache policy skype   again21:29
mojtabadaftykins: I will enable then the secure boot21:29
daftykinsmojtaba: you didn't really answer whether you booted the flash drive or install media as EFI or legacy21:29
daftykins!efi | mojtaba21:29
ubottumojtaba: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI21:29
mojtabadaftykins: I booted from the USB disk21:30
O_OniGiridaftykins does it matter that my SSD is indicated as sdb and my HDD is indicated with sda?21:30
RedheadedCupcakekostkon: Installed: (none)21:30
daftykinsmojtaba: yes but there are two modes of boot, legacy and EFI. follow the above factoid link to see the two images that show the difference21:30
isifreekikonia: I suppose I can refine *special* now to mean an element of LSB (better) or POSIX (best). and by "better" and "best" i mean likelihood of finding them on a randomly selected OS.21:30
nodemanHow can i successfully rebuild initramfs while using raid5, Full disk encryption, lvm? My system fails to boot at first it could not find evms_activate and after chroot+ update-initramfs it says it cannot find root?? Please help me:)21:30
daftykinsO_OniGiri: yeah it matters depending on which way around you want the install to happen21:30
Newyorkadamwhat are my ftp details?21:30
Jordan_Uisifreek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Standard_Base , yes it's a working group "under the organizational structure of the Linux Foundation".21:31
O_OniGirihow do I make ssd sda?21:31
Newyorkadamhow do I find them?21:31
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, ok now either use the software centre or the terminal to install it, which is faster. Just give   sudo apt-get install skype21:31
ikoniaisifreek: nothing you just said changed anything21:31
daftykinsO_OniGiri: if you are nuking both disks then putting Windows on the start of the HDD, then putting ubuntu on the SSD for / and HDD for /home, it'll be pretty important yes21:31
O_OniGiridaftykins so should my SSD be sda? I do not need Windows, only xubuntu21:31
daftykinsO_OniGiri: oh there's no windows install at all? i thought you were after a dualboot21:32
O_OniGiridaftykins no just Linux only21:32
nodeman /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS21:32
daftykinsNewyorkadam: you don't have any. you're seeing that on wordpress 'cause you've not configured the web server correctly :)21:32
Ben64O_OniGiri: it doesn't really matter what is sda and what is sdb21:32
daftykinsO_OniGiri: ah ok. yeah ideally you want the SSD to show up first.21:32
RedheadedCupcakekostkon installing now21:33
O_OniGiridaftykins and if it isn't? how do I fix it?21:33
Newyorkadamdaftykins: no, wordpress is working fine21:33
NewyorkadamI need FTP or FTPS info to install a plugin21:33
mojtabadaftykins: I am following that link. thanks21:33
mojtabadaftykins: I will ask your help, if needed.21:34
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Sia-hi guys21:34
nodemanhello21:34
nodemanSia-: do you know the linux boot process in great detail?21:34
RedheadedCupcakekostkon that did not fix the problem. still can hear and the mic doesn't work21:35
Sia-yes nodeman21:35
daftykinsNewyorkadam: no, you don't understand. seeing that FTP details page when trying to install a theme, update or plugin show's you've set it up wrong. they are capable of being auto downloaded.21:35
O_OniGiridaftykins how do I make ssd sda?21:35
daftykinsO_OniGiri: well the easiest way would be to remove the HDD then install :)21:35
Ben64O_OniGiri: why does it matter?21:35
nodemanSia-: Maybe you can tell me why my system does not boot then. It cannot find root after updateing initramfs i have raid5, full disk encryption and lvm21:36
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, ok   what kind of audio setup have you got. Is this a laptop or a desktop with an external mic etc21:36
daftykinsBen64: it messed up before, didn't really get to the reason as to why21:36
O_OniGiriben64: daftykins says so :p21:36
nodemanSia-: I would be really happy if I can get some clue:)21:36
Ben64ubuntu has no problems installing to sdb or sdc or sdz if it exists21:36
O_OniGiridaftykins but if I remove hdd, I actually want /home to be on the hdd21:36
isifreekikonia: agree to disagree21:36
daftykinsO_OniGiri: yeah that can be setup later21:36
Newyorkadamdaftykins: what have I set up wrong? mysql?21:37
Sia-nodeman check the log files21:37
O_OniGiridaftykins or do I need to reinstall afterwards again?21:37
Sia-of  bootings21:37
daftykinsBen64: oh i remember now, seems O_OniGiri's system EFI refuses to boot off anything but the SSD (auto) only manual menu works21:37
Sia- !tell nodeman boot21:37
ubottuSia-: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:37
daftykinsO_OniGiri: nah you can boot in then reconfigure it.21:37
nodemanokey, thanks I will look into them now21:37
O_OniGiridaftykins kk21:38
O_OniGiri, daftykins I am going to check if I can get the hdd out21:38
O_OniGiribrb21:38
RedheadedCupcakekostkon it's a HP ProBook 4430s21:39
RedheadedCupcakekostkon the weird thing is that I used to have 14.04 and put Win 7 on to dual boot, remembered that I hate windows, so I wiped it all and put 14.04 LTS on it again, anyway, when I had it the first time Skype worked fine.21:40
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, in your audio settings does it say virtual device or pulseaudio server21:41
roaetwhee ubuntu! Anyone know how to DELETE a network interface? I expected ifconfig XXX down to work. It doesn't DELETE it from the list.21:41
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, ok21:41
RedheadedCupcakekostkon in skype?21:41
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, yes, sorry, in skype's audio settings21:41
daftykins roaet what are you hoping to achieve? there's no need to get rid of one.21:41
pragmaticenigmaroaet, disabled is all you can do. unless you physically remove the device from the computer, you can't delete it21:42
RedheadedCupcakekostkon WELL it says PulseAudio server now21:42
roaetdaftykins: I have a VPN script that is reconfiguring routes based on a well-known interface (utun0). sometimes that interface is there but isn't connected to VPN. I'd like to remove it from the list so I can change the routes AFTER connecting.. not before.21:42
RedheadedCupcakebefore it said virtual device21:42
roaetpragmaticenigma: it is a virtual device.. maybe a tunnel (i start getting confused there)21:43
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, that's good  could you just now call the skype call test service and test it out again?21:43
pragmaticenigmaah, that makes better sense21:43
RedheadedCupcakekostkon i'm making the test call now21:43
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, ok21:43
RedheadedCupcakekostkon BAM IT WORKS THANK YOU MY DEAR21:43
kostkonRedheadedCupcake, no probs :)21:44
roaetpragmaticenigma: so the VPN waits for the RSA token and all that because the interface appears after RSA token is accepted (as expected). Then the routes on that VPN are changed. Sometimes that interface is present before the RSA dialog even appears and the script changes the routes on it (which messes up a lot of things).21:45
roaetI don't honestly know how to 'check' if the VPN is connected other than polling on ifconfig.21:45
O_OniGiridaftykins: awesome, hdd was really is to remove21:46
pragmaticenigmaroaet, is it possible to put a delay in the script to wait longer?21:46
roaetBut if the interface is still in ifconfig (even though it is down, disconnected, or shouldn't be there) then it gets confused.21:46
O_OniGiridaftykins will now do a install of xubuntu21:46
* pragmaticenigma has to go now... I wish I could stay21:46
daftykinsO_OniGiri: sounds good!21:48
Guest70399 does any one know how to use bluefish editor ?21:48
daftykinsGuest70399: you asked this earlier and were told to consult their support...21:49
Guest70399coulnt find any info that help me21:49
daftykinsif a product has direct support - why try and ask the OS?21:49
Guest70399 want to split view html code as well as browser21:50
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daftykinsGuest70399: tried http://bfwiki.tellefsen.net/index.php/Manual_2_ToC ?21:50
O_OniGiridaftykins so after installation I should try to reboot again so suppose right and see if it works? afterwards install hdd again and reboot again to see if it works?21:50
daftykinsO_OniGiri: that's right, and if it boots happily we can then setup /home on the HDD21:50
O_OniGiridaftykins I actually only wanted to use 30gb for /21:51
O_OniGiriand on the hdd I wanted to have 12gb swap 12gb /var and 200gb /home21:51
Guest70399daftykins,  doest say how,....thx anyhow21:52
daftykinsO_OniGiri: keeping the swap on there will make things faster too, is it swap you want rid of?21:52
O_OniGiriI read that swap isn't really needed, therefore I wanted to have swap on my hdd21:52
daftykinsO_OniGiri: that's fair enough, you could do the partitioner stage manually and select / only, then setup swap later too21:53
O_OniGiridaftykins: let's hope this method will work21:54
lustic_I cannot seem to figure out why my other distro will not boot after selecting it from the grub menu ?21:59
chinkeselustic_: what's your other distro22:00
O_OniGiridaftykins22:00
Jordan_Ulustic_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/ && ls /mnt/boot/".22:00
daftykinsO_OniGiri: ja?22:00
lustic_Kali linux,22:00
O_OniGiridaftykins do you have the guide for partitioning?22:00
daftykinsO_OniGiri: all you have to do is select to create a single ext4 / partition22:01
O_OniGiridaftykins installation almost finished, where do I select what?22:01
lustic_jordan_U : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752292/22:01
Jordan_Ulustic_: Also, please use my full nick in your messages to me, or they won't be highlighted in my client. You can use your tab key to auto-complete nicknames.22:01
chinkese肏你祖宗十八代22:01
lustic_jordan, i' dont exactly remember how too PM like that,22:02
lustic_your name then a semicolon ?22:02
daftykinsO_OniGiri: way too late for that, it's way back at the 'select where to install' sort of stage22:02
O_OniGiridaftykins AHHH...  well I will just reinstall after I installed the hdd22:02
Jordan_Ulustic_: There is no PM needed, just include my nick in your message. The normal convention is "nickname: Message goes here", but it doesn't really matter that much as long as the nick is in there somewhere.22:03
daftykinsO_OniGiri: that won't help 'cause it'll be seen as sda again and the SSD as sdb ;)22:03
O_OniGiridaftykins so I will have to reinstall now?22:03
lustic_Jordan_U:  ahh i see tab makes it easy  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752292/22:03
Jordan_Ulustic_: Great. Please pastebin the output of "sudo update-grub" and the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg.22:04
daftykinsO_OniGiri: mmm just see if it boots off the SSD with only it plugged in right now, the rest can be resolved22:04
O_OniGiridaftykins still no bootable image found :(22:04
daftykinsO_OniGiri: hang on lets consult the great master of booting...22:05
daftykinsJordan_U: have you encountered these HP systems that seem locked to booting from only the SSD in an SSD and HDD setup - plus all boot choices inside the EFI don't work, but a boot menu selection does? O_OniGiri seems to have a real challenge ahead22:06
Jordan_Udaftykins: I don't think I've encountered this specifically before.22:07
Jordan_U!bootinfo | O_OniGiri22:07
ubottuO_OniGiri: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Please run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then !pastebin the RESULTS.txt for us to use to help diagnose your problem.22:07
lustic_Jordan_U:  sudo update-grub = http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752311/     and contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg = http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752318/22:08
Jordan_UO_OniGiri: Please also pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr" (you can do this from an Ubuntu LiveDVD/USB).22:08
O_OniGiriJordan_U will do22:08
Jordan_Ulustic_: Please pastebin your /etc/default/grub .22:10
mojtabadaftykins: It is booted in the EFI mode22:11
lustic_Jordan_U:  /etc/default/grub = http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752326/22:11
daftykinsmojtaba: the USB installer originally was?22:11
Jordan_Ulustic_: Right now your grub.cfg is configured to wait 10 seconds at a blank (purple) screen for you to press a key, and if you do the grub menu will be shown. Is that what you want?22:11
mojtabadaftykins:  I downloaded the 64bit version 14.04 LTS and made a bootable usb disk. (The booting screen is black)22:12
lustic_Jordan_U:  my grub menu works, I solved the issue with that, it now shows Ubuntu aswell as kali,  my issue now is kali appears to begin to boot and such and just ends up on a blank black scree,22:12
O_OniGiriJordan_U can i install my HDD btw?22:13
Jordan_UO_OniGiri: I haven't read all of the scrollback yet, but I think that should be fine.22:13
hr9999Hello. Is it possible to partition disks in a more precise way than MB (also, are these binary or decimal?) during installation? perhaps with the text-based installer?22:13
daftykinsmojtaba: ok so it booted in EFI mode? can you start it up again and run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" ?22:13
eggbeaterhr9999: I don't think so22:14
Jordan_Ulustic_: That sounds like a problem with Kali. Please ask in #kali-linux .22:14
mojtabadaftykins: Yes, so I should use live ubuntu? and run that command?22:14
daftykinsmojtaba: yep22:14
lustic_Jordan_U: Yeah... No answer, : / but thanks : )22:14
Jordan_Uhr9999: You don't want your partitions to be not MiB aligned, that will lead to horrible performance with modern hard drives.22:15
hr9999Jordan_U: okay, thought there might be something like that22:15
hr9999what is a bit confusing to me is why my swap partition changed from 8590MB to 858822:16
hr9999perhaps some sectors went bad?22:16
hr9999still, 2MB, that might be reason for concern22:17
mojtabadaftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/975235322:17
Jordan_Uhr9999: No, partitions don't change in size when sectors go bad. What do you mean by "changed" from when did it change?22:17
hr9999Jordan_U: I installed Xubuntu earlier and during installation allocated 8590MB of swap space (as close as possible to 8 binary GB in decimal MB)--I'm reinstalling, and I noticed that the partition is now 8588MB.22:19
mojtabadaftykins: Could you please tell me what should I do?22:23
daftykinsmojtaba: yeah just been thinking about that paste. hmm bit of a weird setup, looks like it has a small SSD for cache.22:23
Jordan_Uhr9999: I'm pretty sure that the installer uses Mibibytes rather than Megabytes. What is reporting that the partition is now "8588", and using what units?22:23
mojtabadaftykins: yes22:23
hr9999Jordan_U: MB22:23
mojtabaIt is thinkpad T440S (The one without SSD)22:24
hr9999I partitioned from the installer22:24
hr9999and I just looked from the installer22:24
hr9999so it's the same units, I just don't know what those units are22:24
O_OniGiriJordan_U: bootinfoscript RESULTS.txt: http://pastebin.com/XeWxJkDs, sudo efibootmgr: http://pastebin.com/AzT24J5X22:24
hr99991e6B or 2^20B22:24
kostkonhr9999, there's a wiki page just for that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnitsPolicy22:25
O_OniGiridaftykins: thanks for trying to help me :)22:25
hr9999kostkon: Thank you22:25
hr9999eh, maybe I just typed it wrong, who knows22:25
daftykinsO_OniGiri: hang on that shows both disks again... you did try to boot with just the SSD in right?22:26
O_OniGiridaftykins: yeah, but Jordan_U told me it was fine again to install my HDD22:26
daftykinsO_OniGiri: ah ok sorry, just wasn't following close enough22:27
O_OniGiriJordan_U: Hopefully you can help me out, I have literally spend like 6 hours already trying to google :(22:27
O_OniGiridaftykins: no need to apologize, you already spend a lot time trying to help me :) thanks22:27
mojtabadaftykins: shop.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops/thinkpad/t-series/t440s22:28
daftykinsmy pleasure22:28
daftykinsmojtaba: i would maybe try reinstalling now that secure boot is back on - then share the exact error as and if/when it comes. so run the installer and delete the partition, then setup again22:29
mojtabadaftykins: sure. thanks22:29
Jordan_UO_OniGiri: I'm pretty busy with other things at the moment, so I may just drop out at any time. I should be back tomorrow if nothing else though.22:30
O_OniGiriJordan_U: oh ok, no problem. Probably I will reinstall Windows in the meantime22:30
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Jordan_UO_OniGiri: When you boot normally, what happens? Does Windows boot?22:31
O_OniGiriJordan_U: No I get a message that says: no bootable image was found22:31
O_OniGiriJordan_U: just to be clear, I am not using dual boot.22:32
daftykinsdid we try every boot menu entry again with just the SSD in?22:32
O_OniGiridaftykins: I did try that22:34
Jordan_UO_OniGiri: Try this "sudo mkdir -p /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/ && sudo cp /boot/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI". This should make sdb bootable as a removable drive (which shouldn't be needed, since you have the proper UEFI boot entry, but might help anyway).22:35
O_OniGiriJordan_U: Afterwards reboot?22:36
jafaus.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down via ipv6. responds to ipv4 and other country mirrors are working22:36
O_OniGiriJordan_U: Getting following message in terminal: cp: cannot stat ‘/boot/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi’: No such file or directory22:37
jafacan't install ubuntu if I tell it to use US (default) download site22:38
jafalikewise can't update existing installs22:38
O_OniGiriJordan_U: Could that error message be the problem? Incorrect UEFI installation?22:39
O_OniGiriJordan_U: I do have all .efi files in the following directory: /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu22:40
Jordan_UO_OniGiri: Sorry, I just gave you the wrong path.22:45
O_OniGiriJordan_U: So what do I have to do?22:45
rockohello ubuntu woril22:45
rockoworld22:45
Jordan_UO_OniGiri: sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI22:46
O_OniGiriJordan_U: Afterwards reboot?22:46
Jordan_UO_OniGiri: Yes.22:46
O_OniGiriok, brb22:46
rockocan anyone help me with a problem with ubuntu on a dell 670?   no internet connection found?22:46
Turingihello is gpg --gen-key broken momentarily for ubuntu 13.04? gnome's Seahorse GUI also does not work22:48
Turingigpg --gen-key stalls, asks for 'more entropy' once, then stalls after that22:48
Turingiand Seahorse gui does not generate anything and displays nothing after you click to create a new pgp key22:48
Turingiyou input the key characteristics and click 'generate' and it does nothing22:49
O_OniGiriJordan_U: I am back, unfortunately it didnt work :(22:49
Jordan_UTuringi: Ubuntu 13.04 is EOL, it's no longer supported and is insecure. Please upgrade to a supported release.22:49
rockocan anyone help with ubuntu on dell 670 no internet connectiomn?22:50
TuringiJordan_U: oh, I meant 14.04 (LTS)22:50
RoryTuringi: Take a look here http://askubuntu.com/a/33068422:50
daftykinsrocko: laptop? no wireless i take it, working wired?22:50
RoryTuringi: The problem persists across a reboot, I assume?22:50
rockono its a dell perision 670 sever workstation wired22:51
daftykinsrocko: "lspci" to try and identify the adapter22:51
TuringiRory: will try reboot later, I was just wondering if there were similar reports of this problem22:51
rockosomeone mentioned ubuntu didnt support the dell drivers or somthing22:52
Turingithis is in the context of the 31c3 talk decrying the opaqueness of gpg in general :p22:52
Turingiand user-unfriendliness22:52
rockoiv had ubuntu and mint on a dell desktop  no prombles22:52
Jordan_UO_OniGiri: :( . Please file a bug report with "ubuntu-bug grub-efi", and subscribe me (JordanU) to it.22:53
rockoi got this server for 25 and had windows 7 but the harddrive died and imjust wanting to to teach myself22:53
mojtabadaftykins: It did not realized there is windows installed, and I selected manually installing. Now it does not allow me to make a new partition on that free partition!22:53
Turingiis there a way to get a live counter of the quantity of entropy that gpg gathers during key generation?22:55
Turingito see if it's indeed stalling or just going very very slow22:55
daftykinsrocko: yeah still need the device from 'lspci' in the terminal. not going to get anywhere without22:56
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daftykinsmojtaba: hmm, is fastboot on?22:56
rockobrb22:56
mojtabadaftykins: I think yes22:56
k1l_Turingi: using seahorse with 4096bit key?22:56
Turingik1l_: yes22:56
SioclyaI have a bit of an odd problem with Ubuntu (running KDE Plasma 5). When running the open source drivers, I can't configure mutlple displays because apparently the system doesn't load the correct driver for my graphics card (radeonsi, AMD HD7950/Tahiti Pro)22:57
Turingik1l_: seahorse also behaves the same for the 2K keys22:57
O_OniGiriJordan_U: Where do I need to do that?22:57
k1l_Turingi: took "some time". iirc it was something like 2-5 minutes22:57
Turingik1l_: once you're past the key parameters menu and click 'generate' there is no error, nothing else, it's as if nothing happens and no new keys appear22:57
mojtabadaftykins: Boot mode is Quick, the other option is Diagnostics22:58
Turingik1l_: it should at least have some sliding bar saying "generating"22:58
k1l_Turingi: yes, that just takes some time now.22:58
jafahmmm... us.archive.ubuntu.com works via another ISP. traceroute6 shows it losing the plot after going through xo.net22:58
k1l_i would like to have a message there too. i was confused as if the key is now generated or the program just crashed22:58
Turingik1l_: is it possible Seahorse it just hogging all the system entropy trying to create about a dozen 4K keys at once?23:00
kirklandTuringi: you can watch the available entropy in your system with: watch cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail23:00
kirklandTuringi: creating a single 4K key takes A TON of entropy23:00
rockodayfkins: ok what do you need form lspci?23:00
k1l_Turingi: it takes some time. just use the system for what you need and be happy when its ready :)23:01
mojtabadaftykins: Should I change that?23:01
Turingikirkland: Seahorse should give me pop-up saying "generating" or a means to cancel a key being generated at the moment23:01
O_OniGiriJordan_U: How can I subscribe you to the bug filing?23:01
daftykinsmojtaba: i'm not 100% sure it's the thing i am thinking of really23:01
kirklandTuringi: you can sudo apt-get install haveged too, if you like23:02
kirklandTuringi: it's a pretty good entropy generator23:02
rockointel coropration 82545gm gigabit controller23:02
Jordan_UO_OniGiri: It's an option near the top right of the launchpad page for the bug.23:02
mojtabadaftykins: there is no other option about booting. I will change it and try again. I will keep you updated23:02
Turingikirkland: that's a pseudo-rng, right? there is no entropy about it at all :)23:02
kirklandTuringi: do you have a hardware rng?23:03
Turingikirkland: probably23:03
Turingikirkland: AMD FX 6300 CPU23:03
rockodafykins: intel corp 82545gm gigabit ethernet controller23:04
gabb0Hi.  Any advice on how to use ethtool to diagnose whether a NIC is faulty?  In Windows we had issues but live ubuntu I don't.  However, I don't know what I can do with ethrool to determine NIC health.  I tried ethtool -t ethX offline(and online) and it comes back PASS.  Is this suffice?23:05
Turingikirkland: oops, apparently watching entropy_avail consumes entropy, gpg told me it needed 205 more bytes of entropy and after that it told me it needed 250 more bytes23:05
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Sioclyabasically, I'm wondering how to force the system to use radeonsi for the first PCI device23:05
mojtabadaftykins: It says again, No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu.23:06
mojtabadaftykins: Do you know what should I do?23:06
O_OniGiriJordan_U: In what package did you find this bug?23:07
O_OniGiriJordan_U: grub2?23:07
Turingitalk at 31C3: "Why is GPG 'damn near unusable'?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gz9TBt-DAQ23:07
kirklandTuringi: catting /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail most certainly does not consume entropy23:07
kirklandTuringi: catting /dev/random, most certainly would23:07
Jordan_UO_OniGiri: "grub2" is the correct source package, yes.23:07
daftykinsmojtaba: can you screenshot?23:08
O_OniGiriJordan_U: I dont see an option where I can subscribe you23:08
daftykinsrocko: and which ubuntu did you install?23:08
mojtabadaftykins: It is on another machine. I do not know how to transfer the screenshot. :(23:08
AgallochWorkHello everyone. Have to flash my phone but at work i only have Ubuntu. While running command of SP Flash_tool, i am stuck on  flash_tool: Permission denied even i am using sudo or sudo su. What else can i do pls :/23:08
Jordan_UO_OniGiri: If you post the URL here I can subscribe myself.23:08
O_OniGiriJordan_U: Ok, wait a sec23:08
Jordan_UAgallochWork: What is the exact command you ran? What guide are you following?23:09
O_OniGiriJordan_U: Should I add the pastebins?23:09
O_OniGiriJordan_U: Do you have the pastebins for me :)? Else I will have to remake them23:09
Turingikirkland: how did the needed amount of entropy actually increase then?23:10
AgallochWorkJordan_U, there is no guide. I have to download SP_Flash_tools for Linux. I did. Unpacked it on my home directory. Then i ran a command sh flash_tool.sh from directory where this file and all other are. This gives me that output i wrote already23:10
AgallochWorkJordan_U, so i tryied sudo su, and again went to directory with file flash_tool.sh and ran again ./flash_tool.sh and it still gives me this output, about permissions23:11
O_OniGiriJordan_U: Never mind I found them23:11
rockodafykins: ubuntu 14.04 trusty23:11
rocko14.04.123:11
daftykinsmojtaba: flash drive? does the live session not have working internet access?23:12
Jordan_UAgallochWork: There was no README.txt or INSTALL.txt with SPI_Flash_tools?23:12
AgallochWorkJordan_U, no, its binary file already, no install.tt or readme.txt (SP_Flash_Tool_exe_Linux_v5.1452.00.100 )23:12
AgallochWorkJordan_U, there is binary file, even i can give it executable flag, it doesnt work23:12
daftykinsrocko: what interface names do you see if you type "ip a" ?23:12
Sioclyayou know what, I'm just going to use fglrx instead, that'll do.23:13
rockodafykins: 1: lo <loopback,up,lower_up> mtu 65536 qdisk noqueue state unknown group defualt   2: eht0 <broadcsast , multicast> mtu 1500 qdisk noop state DOWN group defualt qlen 100023:16
Turingikirkland, k1l_: well, thanks for the help, the key has been finally generated23:16
TuringiI am tempted to write a wrapper around gpg23:16
Turingito give more feedback23:16
O_OniGiriJordan_U: Not sure if I subscribed you, here is the link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/141101723:17
daftykinsrocko: eth0 sounds like the wired. you sure you have a working cable in there / plugged in right?23:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1411017 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "No bootable image was found." [Undecided,New]23:17
daftykinsrocko: try "sudo ifup eth0" and "sudo dhclient eth0" if the cable is confirmed good23:18
O_OniGiriJordan_U & daftykins: Thanks for helping me!23:21
O_OniGiriJordan_U & daftykins : Hopefully I will get to fix this bug ASAP.23:21
rockodafykins: yes23:24
rockodaftykins: yes a good cord / connection23:25
rockodaftykins: theres no eth0 under ifconfig if that helps23:25
daftykinseven with -a?23:26
daftykins"ifconfig -a"23:26
rockodaftykins: with the -a  i see eth023:26
gabb0Hi.  Any advice on how to use ethtool to diagnose whether a NIC is faulty?  In Windows we had issues but live ubuntu I don't.  However, I don't know what I can do with ethrool to determine NIC health.  I tried ethtool -t ethX offline(and online) and it comes back PASS.  Is this suffice?23:28
undecimIs it possible to have my package cache act as a mirror, so that other people on my lan can download packages without an internet connection?23:28
daftykinsrocko: you ran the two commands then?23:28
rockodaftykins: the ip -a? yes i ran that23:29
daftykinsgabb0: why do you think ubuntu would see something when it's only flawed in Windows? check Windows sees the MAC correctly23:29
daftykinsrocko: no, "sudo ifup eth0" then "sudo dhclient eth0"23:29
gabb0daftykins, that's what I am trying to determine.  I believe it's win but wanted to know of ethtool(or something else in linux) can diag an ethernet adapter... that's all. :)23:32
rockodaftykins: sudo ifup eth0 = ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. sudo dhclient eth0 = rtnetlink answers: cannot assign requested address23:33
daftykinso023:33
bekksifconfig -a will show your existing interfaces.23:33
hydrajumpif anyone has any ideas whether this is possible that would be awesome as I've tried all kinds of hacks but nothing works http://askubuntu.com/questions/573498/how-can-i-add-a-custom-python-indicator-to-the-unity-greeter-login-screen23:33
daftykinsrocko: mmm i gotta call it a night now i'm afraid, i'll let someone else take over23:37
rockook thanks anyway23:37
rockobekks: can you help with no internet connection ubuntu 14.04.1 on a dell perision 670 workstation?23:38
bekksrocko: Just run ifconfig -a to see which network interfaces were detected.23:40
rockobekks: eth0 and lo   but dosent show ip   but localhost23:41
trismhydrajump: to get that to work you would likely have to modify unity-greeter, because prime is not an actual indicator, it is an appindicator...the appindicator indicator is that to show nm-applet but it gets started by unity-greeter execing it23:42
trismhydrajump: err I mean the appindicator indicator is there not that23:42
DHD_Whats the best irc client for Ubuntu?23:46
bekksDHD_: The one like most.23:47
rockoDHD_: not sure the best but i used hexchat23:47
DHD_bekks: thanks, we are getting there23:47
rockobekks: anymore ideas?23:48
DHD_rocko: thanks, i'll check it out23:48
rockobekks: internet worked with windows but harddrive went bad and now i got ubuntu and no internet23:48
bekksrocko: Is your eth0 a cabled or wifi interface?23:49
cpt_yossariandoes anybody know why ~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg would suddenly be chmodded -rw?23:49
rockobekks: cabled23:49
bekksrocko: And whats the output of "sudo dhclient eth0"?23:50
rockobekks: rtnetlink anwsers  cannot assign requested address23:51
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bekksrocko: And what does "sudo lshw -C network | grep product" give you?23:52
rockobekks: sorry but how do i make the line after network?23:53
X123the line?23:53
X123u mean shift \ ?23:54
X123||||||23:54
rockox123: look at bekks reply23:54
rockoyes23:54
rockooooo ok23:54
X123it's called a pipe symbol23:54
rocko|23:54
X123used in a lot of stuff23:54
Bashing-omrocko: O  an ASCII/qwerty keyboard ,, it is the upcase of the key above the 'enter' key .23:54
X123it's not always above the enter key :)23:55
X123i have some kbs where it's next to the backspace key and that really bothers me lol23:55
nodemanHow can i obtain boot log files to debug my boot process when i have a full disc encryption setup (Just boot is unencrypted)23:56
hydrajumptrism: oh. I thought that since the indicator showed when you log in that it would be possible to show it at the greeter as well. That was bad news :(23:56
X123nobody knows about weird tcp connection issues with 3.13+ huh23:56
rockobekks: 82545GM gigabit ethernet controller23:56
X123intel gige controller23:57
trismhydrajump: it is possible you would just need to either recompile unity-greeter or convert prime into an actual indicator, the first is easier than the second23:57
bekksrocko: Do you have mii-tool installed? Or ethtool?23:58
rockobekks: this is a fresh install no internet connection since install so if it didnt come with ubuntu i wouldnt have it and i dont know how to see if i have it or not23:59
bekksrocko: So please check wether you have one of the named tools :)23:59

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