[00:00] <bobbobbins> whats the easiest way to make an iso of my ubuntu server?
[00:01] <nobody__>  undecim rebootyting will send log in a bit
[00:01] <undecim> nobody__, k
[00:03] <nobody__> undecim where is the xorg file again
[00:03] <IdleOne> /usr/lib/xorg
[00:03] <isifreek> where should i put stuff that i want to run once at boot and once at shutdown/reboot?
[00:04] <isifreek> it's one thing (a screen session with irssi in it)
[00:04] <nobody__> undecim not the file i mean the log
[00:06] <Bashing-om> nobody__: /var/log/Xorg.0.log .
[00:08] <nobody1> undecim http://paste.ubuntu.com/9737440/
[00:11] <bubbasaures> Nixus, Many hard to count.
[00:14] <bubbasaures> bobbobbins, Curious, why?
[00:14] <undecim> nobody1, Without nomodeset, the intel driver is being used.
[00:14] <Nixus> bubbasaures: what did you use after your 6 months of ubuntu?
[00:15] <undecim> nobody1, See if changing your refresh rate fixes the flicker
[00:15] <bobbobbins> bubbasaures: so I can run it in vmware
[00:15] <nobody1> undecim how would i do that?
[00:16] <bubbasaures> Nixus, 7 years ago, can't remember, found really that most are hardly any different, more are than not, it's all the linux kernel. This is offtopic though.
[00:16] <bubbasaures> are the same
[00:16] <Bashing-om> nobody1: AND " Found backlight control interface acpi_video0 (type 'firmware') for output eDP1 " . do we have lift-off ?
[00:16] <undecim> nobody1, It's in the settings somewhere. Which flavor of ubuntu are you using?
[00:17] <nobody1> undecim 14.01
[00:17] <kpgd> Hello. I am having problems with my Intel 7260 wi-fi card. It was fine on previous version, but it
[00:17] <kpgd> it's very unstable on 14.04 LTS. It keeps disconnecting from the network
[00:17] <nobody1> undecim thats as far as i know on what version i got just went to the website and got 14.01 LTS
[00:17] <undecim> nobody1, Just normal Ubuntu? You should be able to type "display" in the menu search
[00:17] <bubbasaures> bobbobbins, Well you cam make custom iso's, not a iso out of a install that I know of.
[00:18] <nobody1> undecim doesnt sayanything about refresh rate
[00:18] <bubbasaures> bobbobbins, Used to be remastersys not supported anymore is all.
[00:19] <undecim> nobody1, do "xrandr | pastebinit" in a terminal
[00:19] <undecim> nobody1, It will list the refresh and resolution options available on the card
[00:20] <nobody1> undecim http://pastebin.com/SYsDgqQ0
[00:21] <undecim> nobody1, It's already at the max refresh rate. That's not the issue
[00:21] <bubbasaures> bobbobbins, You can put that in a virtualbox vm though, not sure on vmware never used it.
[00:23] <undecim> nobody1, does the screen flicker before the login prompt appears? (i.e. during the boot splash)
[00:23] <nobody1> not sure but i think so
[00:23] <bubbasaures> I see actual images for it lighter supposedly, not sure why that was not the start.
[00:23] <nobody1> undecim cus it starts out slow at first
[00:25] <undecim> nobody1, I don't think the intel driver will work with nomodeset at all. Is there any problem other than flickering that occurs without nomodeset?
[00:26] <nobody1> undecim not that i have encountered yet. this was the first issue even in the live trial version so i wanted to solve this before anything else
[00:27] <undecim> nobody1, What happens when you change the resolution?
[00:28] <nobody1> undecim nothing changes still flickering scrreen gets smaller thats it
[00:31] <nobody1> undecim looks like the screen tearing issue is fixed though, still unable to change the display brightness
[00:31] <undecim> nobody1, The display brightness may be a different issue
[00:31] <checoimg> does ubuntu 14.1 support 32 bit EFI ?
[00:31] <undecim> nobody1, try adding "acpi_backlight=vendor" to your kernel line (where nomodeset was)
[00:31] <undecim> nobody1, It's fixed a lot of backlights for me
[00:32] <checoimg> does ubuntu 14.10 support 32 bit EFI ?
[00:32] <nobody1> where do i paste it in the line
[00:32] <hetii> Hi :)
[00:32] <checoimg> hi hetii
[00:33] <lukblack> buonasera
[00:33] <lukblack> :)
[00:33] <hetii> How can i customize message that is generate to /var/run/motd.dynamic ?
[00:33] <undecim> nobody1, doesn't matter where, as long as its after the = and has a space between it and any other word
[00:33] <Jordan_U> checoimg: I don't think it does out of the box (in the installer media). What machine do you have with 32 bit UEFI? Does it have a 64 bit CPU?
[00:33] <hetii> I don`t mean replace it by some static message but just customize it.
[00:34] <nobody1> so something like this : "quite splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[00:34] <checoimg> Acer Iconia W510 Jordan
[00:34] <nobody1> undecim so something like this : "quite splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[00:34] <checoimg> 32 bit cpu
[00:34] <Chakka> 32-bit efi:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
[00:35] <undecim> nobody1, yup
[00:36] <nobody1> undecim didnt look like that did anything maybe gotta resart first
[00:36] <undecim> nobody1, Yes, restart is required
[00:36] <undecim> nobody1, Some older posts I've found suggest adding to the kernel line gfxpayload=1024x768 to fix flickering
[00:37] <Bashing-om> nobody1: -> sudo update-grub <- .
[00:37] <nobody1> undecim try it? but with 1920x1080 ?
[00:37] <checoimg> Shall I just put the bootia32 file in the EFI/Boot folder ?
[00:37] <nobody1> bashing-om yea did that already
[00:37] <checoimg> I think supre grub has 32 bit fi
[00:38] <undecim> nobody1, couldn't hurt
[00:38] <undecim> nobody1, If at some point one of the kernel options breaks your display...
[00:38] <Bashing-om> nobody1: after making the edit "quite splash acpi_backlight=vendor " ?
[00:38] <nobody1> undecim do you think 1280 or 1920
[00:38] <nobody1> bashing-om yea
[00:39] <undecim> nobody1, I don't think the resolution really matters here, but I'd do 1920x1080 to match your desktop display
[00:39] <genkiklaus> yea
[00:40] <checoimg> Wubi works fine :/ it should be easy to just install it and then install Grub with 32 bit EFI after
[00:40] <undecim> nobody1, If a kernel option breaks your display, you can change the kernel line for the duration of one boot by holding left shift when the computer starts. select the top option and press "e", and you can edit the line. Then press Ctrl-X to boot it
[00:40] <checoimg> Does Wubi still install form inside Windows ?
[00:40] <undecim> nobody1, That's if, for example, you can't even access the command line, because the display is misconfigured
[00:40] <checoimg> brb
[00:40] <undecim> Or specifically, if the kernel line is misconfigured
[00:41] <Test1Dan> oh
[00:41] <nobody1> undecim alright lets hope it doesnt come to that
[00:41] <bazhang> avoid wubi at all costs
[00:41] <Test1Dan> ^
[00:41] <mjayk> i dont know why wubi is still shipped with the 14.10 iso
[00:41] <Test1Dan> talking from this java consol
[00:41] <genkiklaus> ^
[00:42] <Test1Dan> so hwat itso what it do baby bo
[00:43] <genkiklaus> .
[00:44] <nobody1_> undecim alright well it didnt work, but at least i can say for sure it starts when the ubuntu logo pops up
[00:44] <bubbasaures> Test1Dan, Give support if you can, but please keep it there.
[00:44] <undecim> nobody1_, What about backlight?
[00:44] <Test1Dan> ohkay
[00:45] <nobody1_> undecim nothing in the brightness and lock system settings. buttons doesnt do anything either
[00:45] <Test1Dan> /join #linux
[00:45] <bubbasaures> Test1Dan, There is a offtopic channel, if you can prove you can make sentences and words that make any sense.
[00:46] <Test1Dan> /join #bash
[00:47] <checoimg> back
[00:47] <checoimg> So I cpied the file to EFI/Boot and it worked
[00:47] <bubbasaures> checoimg, No more wubi advice it is not supported
[00:47] <checoimg> I get a grub console
[00:48] <undecim> nobody1, do "ls /sys/class/backlight | pastebinit"
[00:48] <rww> EFI with WUBI is doubly-unsupported
[00:49] <bubbasaures> The designer of wubi themselves say it is a try out not a install to use.
[00:49] <bubbasaures> it was*
[00:49] <nobody1> undecim dont need to paste bin this is all it says (asus-nb-wmi  intel_backlight)
[00:50] <cliffreich> is there a way to change the ugly look of ubuntu without changing the entire desktop environment? that gnome look omg
[00:50] <cliffreich> and that unity bar
[00:50] <undecim> nobody1, Is your backlight too bright or too dim?
[00:50] <bubbasaures> cliffreich, YOu installed unity-tweak?
[00:51] <mjayk> no cliffreich if you don't like the DE then use a different DE
[00:51] <nobody1> undecim too bright it drains battery like crazy
[00:51] <undecim> nobody1, Try "echo 10 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness"
[00:51] <bubbasaures> mjayk, That is not even close to true, please be accurate.
[00:51] <mjayk> bubbasaures: I am
[00:51] <manticpixel> Anyone in here use Gnome-do?
[00:52] <cliffreich> nope, i been using archlinux/gentoo right now but ubuntu is better for my needs right now as i don't want to focus on my system
[00:52] <bubbasaures> that is fud and you know it
[00:52] <nobody1> undecim bash: /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness: Permission denied
[00:52] <cliffreich> what the unity tweak
[00:52] <undecim> nobody1, Try "echo 10 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness"
[00:52] <bubbasaures> cliffreich, It tweaks the unity desktop
[00:52] <bubbasaures> get the name
[00:52] <bazhang> install gnome-shell cliffreich , it's an alternate gnome shell to unity
[00:53] <bubbasaures> shell is nice I use it
[00:53] <nobody1> that dimmed it but flicker still happens
[00:53] <cliffreich> oh ok
[00:53] <nobody1> undecim that dimmed it but flicker still happens
[00:53] <cliffreich> sounds like a better way to customize ubuntu
[00:53] <bazhang> mjayk, may be confused about shell and de
[00:53] <bubbasaures> cliffreich, It is pretty much all there anyway, the gnome-shell
[00:54] <undecim> nobody1, Okay, I know the fix for the backlight
[00:54] <hetii> Q: why /etc/update-motd.d/50-landscape-sysinfo is called on logout instead login ?
[00:54] <undecim> nobody1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight#Intel_HD_Graphic_Controllers
[00:54] <nobody1> whats the command to make it brighter, its hard to see lol
[00:54] <bazhang> there are tons of plugins for gnome-shell as well cliffreich
[00:55] <hetii> when I relogin instead current system information I see that one from last login
[00:55] <hetii> what it make a bit nosense
[00:55] <bubbasaures> cliffreich, THere is gnome-tweak for the shell and a website with shell addons
[00:55] <bubbasaures> doh missed your post bazhang
[00:56] <undecim> nobody1, Press ALT+F2, type " gksu gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/80-backlight.conf", and paste the lines shown at that link (from "Section" to "EndSection"), save it, and your backlight should work after reboot
[00:56] <bazhang> it happens, with the fast scroll
[00:56] <cliffreich> im taking a look right now. thanks guys
[00:57] <undecim> nobody1, as for the flicker, that's going to need a kernel line to fix (I know this because the flicker happens at the splash screen, before Xorg loads)
[00:57] <bubbasaures> cliffreich, This also install the gnome fallback a pseudo gnome 2 desktop, many like it as well.
[00:59] <nobody1> undecim alright ima resart to see if it works cus this dim light is starting to hurt
[01:02] <jakesyl_insomnia> hey is there anyway to exclude urls like domain.com/index.php?id=1 domain.com/index.php?id=2 and just get domain.com/index.php
[01:02] <Caroga> hi all
[01:03] <nobody1> undecim alright looks like it worked in the sense that i can change it in the brightness settings but button still doesnt work, which if fine by me if theres no fix for it
[01:03] <Caroga> I am searching for proxy setups on ubuntu, what would you guys recommend using ?
[01:03] <Caroga> I found squid, thought that Varnish would be a option as well. Any other recommendations ?
[01:04] <undecim> nobody1, Well the keys can still be fixed. Now that you can do it with a GUI, it means the "backend" stuff on the backlight is working properly.
[01:04] <undecim> nobody1, Found this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty_Hardware#Screen_Keeps_Flickering
[01:05] <undecim> nobody1, Menu -> System -> Administration -> Advanced -> Service Manager -> Uncheck "Detect RANDR (monitor) changes"
[01:05] <jakesyl_insomnia> so any idea?
[01:05] <nobody1> undecim where is menu lol
[01:06] <undecim> nobody1, idk... I'm on Lubuntu, which has a different frontend interface
[01:06] <nobody1> undecim oh
[01:06] <undecim> nobody1, Try searching "Service Manager" in the Unity menu
[01:07] <nobody1> doesnt show up
[01:07] <nobody1> undecim doesnt show up
[01:08] <undecim> nobody1, I'll start a LiveCD in VirtualBox and see if I can find the menu its referring to
[01:09] <nobody1> undecim ok
[01:11] <undecim> nobody1, Oops. Those instructions appear to be for KDE/Kubuntu
[01:12] <binarydepth> So I added the bootia file and it booted. Isn't this going to be added to the Ubuntu default ISO ?
[01:12] <binarydepth> I'm talking about 32 bit EFI
[01:13] <undecim> nobody1, Though it would seem to suggest that disabling xrandr would do roughly the same thing
[01:14] <undecim> nobody1, It might also prevent you from adding displays (i.e. an external monitor)
[01:14] <nobody1> undecim damn alright thats not really a priority atm so just fixing the flickering is fine
[01:16] <noxchi> Hello, does anyone know what is the command-line i should use to Find & Delete files of a specific extention in a specific folder ?
[01:17] <Stanley00> noxchi: you can use find :3
[01:17] <Caroga> noxchi what extension ?
[01:18] <Caroga> because with find you could do something like:" find . -name '*.exe' -delete"
[01:18] <Stanley00> noxchi: find /path/to/your/dir -iname '*.ext' <= to make sure it works, then find /path/to/your/dir -iname '*.ext' -delete to delete it
[01:18] <Caroga> Stanley00 ever made a proxy using ubuntu ?
[01:18] <noxchi> i mean, to find and delete files in one command.... i have like 144 GB of data that i dont need ... extentins are txt and doc are not needed at all, and they are like 4 something million files... i dont need them all...
[01:19] <undecim> nobody1, Press ALT+F2, type " gksu gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/01-server-flags.conf", and paste these lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9738335/
[01:19] <Caroga> noxchi read back :)
[01:19] <noxchi> aha
[01:19] <undecim> nobody1, Actually, don't do that
[01:19] <Stanley00> Caroga: nope, sorry, but I heard that squid is quite good. Is that for personal use?
[01:20] <undecim> nobody1, Use  "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf",
[01:20] <nobody1> undecim alright ill stay on standby
[01:20] <Caroga> Stanley00 somehow yes and no.
[01:20] <Caroga> I've read about squid.
[01:20] <nobody1> undecim and paste the same thing?
[01:20] <Caroga> dont know if it's what i need.
[01:20] <undecim> nobody1, yup
[01:20] <noxchi> ill give it a shot :D
[01:21] <nobody1> undecim alright saved it now what
[01:21] <Stanley00> Caroga: you can have a look at here, polipo is simple for non-enterprise use :3 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Category:Proxy_servers
[01:21] <nobody1> undecim resart?
[01:21] <undecim> nobody1, yup
[01:21] <nobody1> undecim alright brb
[01:22] <Delta706> I have a new motherboard and now sound is not working. Might I need the latest version of pulseaudio?
[01:23] <Caroga> thanks Stanley00
[01:23] <Caroga> I will read into it
[01:23] <Stanley00> Caroga: welcome :3
[01:23] <bubbasaures> Delta706, Here we work with what is in the ubuntu repo, so decribe the issue to the channel.
[01:23] <micah> so these pages about how to get software into the software center used to exist, but now they dont and the only thing on developer.ubuntu.com are things related to mobile, where is the non-mobile stuff gone? http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/apps/other-forms-of-submitting-apps/my-apps-packages/ http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/02/how-to-prepare-a-compiled-application-for-ubuntu-software-center/ ?
[01:24] <nobody1> undecim looks like it didnt fix it
[01:24] <Delta706> bubbasaures: I am using 14.04 and getting no sound from the speaker
[01:24] <undecim> nobody1, Can you paste Xorg.0.log to check that the settings were loaded?
[01:25] <bubbasaures> Delta706, Not me the channel is all. ;)
[01:25] <undecim> nobody1, Can you paste Xorg.0.log to check that the settings were loaded?
[01:25] <nobody1> undecim alright gotta look for the file path again
[01:25] <undecim> nobody1, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:26] <bubbasaures> !sound | Delta706 a little to look at while waiting
[01:26] <nobody1> undecim http://paste.ubuntu.com/9738410/
[01:28] <jakesyl_insomnia> so any idea?
[01:28] <jakesyl_insomnia> hey is there anyway to exclude urls like domain.com/index.php?id=1 domain.com/index.php?id=2 and just get domain.com/index.php when running wget -r
[01:28] <undecim> nobody1, Okay, strangely the log simultaneously reports that the config was loaded, but randr was still loaded
[01:28] <Rescis> Anyone here play Metro Last Light or Metro 2033 (Redux)?
[01:28] <undecim> nobody1, I think maybe "off" was the wrong value to use in those lines
[01:29] <Rescis> I can;t get it to load properly, tells me I need OpenGL 4.0 or higher.
[01:29] <undecim> nobody1, Try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing "off" to "True" in the 2 lines in the ServerFlags sections
[01:29] <nobody1> undecim so yes instead? whats the command to get to te file
[01:30] <tigrang> jakesyl_insomnia, wget --reject-regex '(.*)\?(.*)' domain.com/index.php
[01:30] <undecim> nobody1, ALT+F2 "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" for GUI
[01:30] <undecim> nobody1, "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" for CLI
[01:31] <Stanley00> jakesyl_insomnia: you can try "wget --reject-regex '(.*)\?(.*)' http://example.com"
[01:32] <undecim> nobody1, Sorry, I should have told you to change it to "False"
[01:32] <undecim> nobody1, got my booleans backwards
[01:32] <nobody1> undecim good thing im slow so False with capital f?
[01:32] <nobody1> undecim heard linux is case sensative
[01:33] <jakesyl_insomnia> tigrang/stanley00 how do i also exclude mp3/mp4 in that regular expression?
[01:33] <tigrang> jakesyl_insomnia, add -R mp3,mp4
[01:34] <tigrang> -R is reject suffixes
[01:34] <nobody1> undecim alright restarting
[01:34] <undecim> nobody1, Yes, should be capital
[01:35] <jakesyl_insomnia>  okay so here's what I got: wget -r  --reject-regex '(.*)\?(.*)' -R mp3,mp4 domain.com
[01:35] <jakesyl_insomnia> and it's aying invalid
[01:35] <jakesyl_insomnia> saying*
[01:36] <MikeHaff> can i get a hand
[01:37] <bubbasaures> !ask | MikeHaff
[01:38] <MikeHaff> Trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 on a Toshiba Satellite C55-B2750 but it doesnt want to boot via disc or USB and there's menu to press f2 or f12 for bios and boot options
[01:38] <nobody1> undecim looks like it didnt work
[01:38] <undecim> nobody1, I checked the xorg manual, and the "off" should have worked just the same as "false"
[01:38] <undecim> nobody1, Linux is case-sensitive in many cases. But not in xorg.conf.
[01:39] <nobody1> undecim well sad day both of it didnt work
[01:39] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, Small list here to ask, did you check the sum of the iso, how did you load it to the usb? Is this a uefi bios?
[01:39] <MikeHaff> Im booting via disc
[01:40] <MikeHaff> I always burn to disc. USB never works for me
[01:40] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, Right asked three questions, how does what I asked relate?
[01:40] <jakesyl_insomnia> MikeHaff do a checksum
[01:40] <bubbasaures> md5sum | MikeHaff if needed, great place to start.
[01:41] <bubbasaures> !md5sum
[01:41] <bubbasaures> sorry
[01:41] <jakesyl_insomnia> So any ideas, I think I'm following the docs, but I'm not sure.  Anyway i can include the mp3/mp4 in the regex
[01:41] <MikeHaff> Forgot to mention, the sum is fine, I checked it, and it installed on my Dell Precision Workstation 690 just fine.
[01:42] <MikeHaff> And im not sure what kinds of bios it is because there is no option to boot into bios. Windows 8.1 if that matters
[01:42] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, Great that helps, so what happens when you try what do you see?
[01:42] <bubbasaures> !uefi | MikeHaff Hugely important if uefi/gpt you have to check
[01:42] <jakesyl_insomnia> I think I found part of the issue, it's saying --reject-regex isn't a valid option
[01:43] <MikeHaff> I reboot and it shows me the toshiba logo, then right into windows 8. No keyboard options during boot for bios or boot options.
[01:43] <MikeHaff> How do i check
[01:43] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, This straight from toshiba with W8?
[01:43] <jakesyl_insomnia> keep hitting the f keys during boot, it'll tale you to something useful eventually
[01:43] <jakesyl_insomnia> f1,f2,f3,f4....
[01:43] <MikeHaff> Yes
[01:44] <undecim> nobody1, What resolutions did you try with gfxpayload?
[01:44] <Jordan_U> MikeHaff: Windows 8 in its settings should have an option to boot into firmware configuration.
[01:44] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, Thanks, Jordan_U is really up on this stuff.
[01:44] <nobody1> undecim 1920X1080
[01:44] <MikeHaff> That was the next thing i tried. It didnt even boot via DVD from restarting in the windows 8 advanced settings menu
[01:44] <undecim> nobody1, try 1024x768
[01:45] <undecim> nobody1, Other than that, I'm out of ideas
[01:45] <nobody1> the gksudo isnt bringing up the file
[01:46] <undecim> nobody1, gksu?
[01:46] <nobody1> undecim after i do gksudo geddit /etc/default/grub and type in password it doesnt do anything it just goes to next command line like i didnt type anything to begin with
[01:47] <undecim> nobody1, it's "gksu gedit"
[01:47] <nobody1> undecim sudo does the same thing too
[01:47] <nobody1> undecim following that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[01:48] <undecim> nobody1, if you have another Gedit window open, it might just open a new tab in that window
[01:48] <MikeHaff> Jordan_U: That was the next thing i tried. It didnt even boot via DVD from restarting in the windows 8 advanced settings menu
[01:48] <undecim> does gedit have tabs?
[01:49] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, Take a look at that bots message, there are things needed in general turned off and adjusted to install ubuntu. If your in the hybrid boot that is a barrier.
[01:49] <nobody1> undecim no i dont
[01:49] <MikeHaff> "In your BIOS, disable QuickBoot/FastBoot and Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT). If you have Windows8, also disable FastStartup."
[01:49] <MikeHaff> I cannot enter BIOS
[01:50] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, Do you know what I mean by hybrid boot?
[01:50] <MikeHaff> No..
[01:50] <Stanley00> jakesyl_insomnia: --reject-regex works for me. Can you find for it in 'wget --help'?
[01:50] <Jpmh> I am using what I believe to be an unmodified ubuntu 12.04 - yet when I type: vi -x somefile, I get the message that it is an unknown argument.  What am I missing here?
[01:51] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, That is the fast boot, you want to be off when you start, windows has a hybrid sleep/hibernate fast boot.
[01:51] <MikeHaff> How can i disable it if i cant get into bios
[01:51] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, You make sure you have turned the computer fully off, just a guess here that you're not.
[01:52] <undecim> nobody1, If gedit isn't working, have you tried 'sudo nano'?
[01:52] <bubbasaures> than adjust the bios
[01:52] <nobody1> undecim nano works
[01:52] <nobody1> undecim idk how to use it though
[01:52] <MikeHaff> Yes. Full shut down. Then when it boots up there is no option to enter bios, just a boot splash screen and then right into windows 8
[01:53] <undecim> nobody1, It's pretty straight forward. Like  GUI text editor without mouse control
[01:53] <nobody1> undecim after i change it to120x720 what do i press
[01:53] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, You might look around for the bios access on that model and or ask in windows, we can only cover so much of the windows part assuming you have the skill set, which I suspect you do.
[01:54] <nobody1> undecim *1280
[01:54] <MikeHaff> I do. I'll look into it
[01:54] <MikeHaff> thanks
[01:54] <bubbasaures> we want you to succeed, some have more skills than others in this area is all.
[01:56] <bubbasaures> should have mentioned don't mention dual boot in windows, gets real quite there than.
[01:57] <undecim> nobody1, you should change it to 1024x768
[01:57] <undecim> nobody1, then ctrl+w to save ("write")
[01:57] <undecim> nobody1, and ctrl+x to exit
[01:58] <undecim> nobody1, then sudo update-grub to confirm the changes
[01:58] <nobody1> undecim i dont think cntr w is it cus it brought up a searh
[01:58] <undecim> nobody1, Sorry, ctrl+o
[01:59] <undecim> Not exactly intuitive...
[01:59] <nobody1> undecim alright time to restart lets hope this works
[02:02] <jerphtht> I'm having a dual boot issue  - i tried installing ubuntu alongside win 7 and the bootloader doesn't load at startup. It's a laptop with an ssd with 3 partitions (win, root, and linuxswap) and a second ntfs hd.
[02:02] <bubbasaures> jerphtht, Have you tried having either HD as the first read to boot?
[02:03] <nobody1> undecim nope didnt work still flickering
[02:03] <undecim> nobody1, 'fraid I'm out of ideas then.
[02:03] <undecim> nobody1, I've never had this much trouble with Intel :/
[02:04] <nobody1> undecim dam guess gotta just use nomodeset
[02:04] <jerphtht> will try that now bubbasaures
[02:04] <undecim> nobody1, What are the cons to nomodeset? I know that the graphics performance will be crap...
[02:05] <undecim> nobody1, Actually, I just got one more idea...
[02:05] <undecim> nobody1, I have to look something up though
[02:05] <nobody1> undecim alright lets try it
[02:06] <militantpotato> Hey, I have a dual monitor setup, with a TV connected via an HDMI cable, and my monitor through DVI.  I'm having an issue with GRUB where it only displays on the Television, which is annoying because it is either off, or being used for something else.  What do I add/change in the grub config to force it to show on my primary display (monitor).  I'm using Kubuntu 14.04
[02:07] <undecim> nobody1, nevermind, the gfxpayload option also does the change that I had in mind
[02:08] <nobody1> undecim darn alright ill just put nomodeset ack
[02:10] <undecim> nobody1, you can try setting GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 in /etc/default/grub (it's about halfway down. You need to remove the # at the beginning of the line)
[02:11] <Bashing-om> nobody1: An Intell "nomodeset" paramater  i915.modeset=1  ...
[02:11] <undecim> Bashing-om, is that any different that "nomodeset"?
[02:11] <undecim> than*
[02:11] <nobody1> undecim do i leave the gfx in the quite spash line?
[02:12] <bubbasaures> militantpotato, This make any sense, "System Settings > Display and Monitor" there is a star on each display that you can click to set which is primary.
[02:12] <militantpotato> bubbasaures: All is well with the primary display setting once Xorg fires up.  It's just the GRUB menu that is on the wrong display.
[02:13] <Bashing-om> undecim: Yeah .. Like you I am not aware that the kernel with Intel recognizes "nomodeset" as Nvidia or ATI do .
[02:13] <bubbasaures> militantpotato, Not used kubuntu but is the 2nd one set as a primary?
[02:13] <bubbasaures> as well
[02:14] <militantpotato> bubbasaures: Negative. My monitor is set as primary (it also has my tool bar and desktop icons, so I believe it is working properly.)
[02:14] <undecim> nobody1, yes, but set it to "keep"
[02:14] <bubbasaures> militantpotato, You might ask in #grub not sure myself.
[02:15] <militantpotato> bubbasaures: I believe I need to modify grub.conf with something specifying the default monitor.
[02:15] <Bashing-om> undecim: nobody1 Later Intel cards use " i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 ". Do not know where the Haswel card falls into .
[02:15] <undecim> nobody1, When you restart, you might have problems with nomodeset. With the backlight fix, we explicitly declared the card as one that requires the intel driver.
[02:15] <militantpotato> bubbasaures: Already ahead of ya, waiting on a reply :)
[02:15] <bubbasaures> good job
[02:15] <undecim> nobody1, then again, it might force intel to take over...
[02:15] <undecim> nobody1, If it does something funny, let me know
[02:15] <strangle> undecim: Intel has taken over
[02:16] <nobody1> undecim wait idk what to put can you send me a pastebin of what it should look like http://pastebin.com/dNLTKbKh
[02:17] <bubbasaures> militantpotato, /etc/default/grub is the config you change with if that is the answer
[02:17] <undecim> nobody1, at the end of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, add "gfxpayload=keep"
[02:18] <undecim> nobody1, and don't forget to sudo update-grub
[02:18] <snyp> Ubuntu doesn't seem to save my powertop settings
[02:18] <strangle> No nobody1
[02:19] <nobody1> undecim alright restarting lets see where this takes me
[02:20] <bubbasaures> snyp, kinda old but probably right, you might search through this source as well. http://askubuntu.com/questions/112705/how-do-i-make-powertop-changes-permanent
[02:21] <snyp> bubbasaures, ok
[02:21] <undecim> strangle, You mad about something?
[02:21] <bubbasaures> snyp, YOU didn't metion the release you have 3 supported so I just searched with ubuntu, kinda loose foo
[02:22] <hetii> Q: Why I get different output: http://pastebin.com/qByDqpRu
[02:22] <nobody1> undecim looks like it didnt do anything time to just put back no modeset
[02:23] <strangle> nobody1: nomodeset is the lazy way oit
[02:24] <nobody1> strangle we spent about 6 hrs trying to figure this out
[02:24] <nobody1> strangle whats the way out then
[02:24] <undecim> strangle, You know how to fix the flicker then?
[02:25] <strangle> undecim: lower resolution.
[02:25] <undecim> strangle, nope, tried that
[02:26] <strangle> undecim: try progressive output
[02:26] <undecim> strangle, how?
[02:27] <strangle> Are you using hdmi
[02:27] <undecim> strangle, It's a laptop using eDP
[02:28] <undecim> strangle, xrandr output (kms enabled) http://pastebin.com/SYsDgqQ0
[02:28] <strangle> And you use Intel undecim
[02:29] <undecim> strangle, I've had intel cards in the past. Don't have one currently
[02:29] <strangle> undecim: what's your gpu
[02:29] <Magnus__> How do I install the Xubuntu desktop, xfce4 or whatever. I am looking for an ultrafast desktop environment
[02:30] <undecim> strangle, whatever Radeon comes with an A10
[02:30] <undecim> nobody1, has an intel Haswell (that's the one we're trying to fix the flicker on)
[02:31] <undecim> strangle, Xorg.conf (KMS enabled) http://paste.ubuntu.com/9737440/
[02:31] <undecim> strangle, With nomodeset, fbdev driver takes over the display
[02:31] <strangle> undecim: so it's generic driver
[02:32] <undecim> strangle, no, without nomodeset, it loads the intel driver
[02:32] <undecim> but it flickers, starting with the boot splash
[02:33] <Magnus__> How do I install the Xubuntu desktop, xfce4 or whatever. I am looking for an ultrafast desktop environment
[02:33] <noxchi> how can i get a list of file extensions in a directory ? Not: directory contains around 73K files ... all i need is something like ( .jpg .mp3 .doc .zip ... ) and so on ... any help please?
[02:34] <strangle> undecim: Did you try installing fglrx
[02:34] <noxchi> oh, for my question above, im asking for the COMMAND line to do what i need,,,,
[02:34] <undecim> strangle, dont think fglrx will help on intel cards...
[02:35] <Bashing-om> Magnus__: Ultra fast is a core install, and only install the applications "you" want .
[02:35] <strangle> undecim: You have dual GPU. ?? Intel and AMD.
[02:35] <Magnus__> How do I do a core install?
[02:35] <undecim> noxchi, probably a sed command and | uniq will do it
[02:36] <undecim> strangle, I have a perfectly functioning AMD gpu running 2 1080p displays with no problem
[02:36] <Bashing-om> Magnus__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall .
[02:36] <undecim> strangle, I was helping someone else fix a problem they were having with an Intel card
[02:37] <noxchi> undecim: can you explain? im not good with commans at all ..
[02:37] <undecim> noxchi, gimme a minute to figure it out
[02:37] <undecim> noxchi, need to find my regex cheat sheet
[02:37] <noxchi> Okay
[02:37] <strangle> undecim: so it's him not you with problem
[02:37] <undecim> strangle, correct
[02:38] <MikeHaff> So as it turns out, my system is configured with UEFI Boot
[02:38] <strangle> MikeHaff: that's okay.
[02:38] <snyp> bubbasaures, i am on ubuntu 14.04. sorry didn't notice your message. i think that will work, it uses some brute force kind of thing, like executing the commands everytime on boot. on arch it gets saved automatically
[02:39] <bubbasaures> snyp, Great, enjoy.
[02:39] <sgp667> does anyone here have any experience with command line calendar/todo apps?
[02:39] <snyp> hm
[02:39] <MikeHaff> okay. I firgured out i have to enter bios from andvanced startup menu in windows 8. but still cant boot via disc. even tried putting my disc drive as boot order first
[02:40] <undecim> noxchi, Probably a "prettier" way to do it, but: ls | sed 's/.*\./\./' | grep '\.' | uniq
[02:41] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, How fast were you booting to windows before you got to the bios when you were fully off?
[02:41] <undecim> in particular, I'm sure the sed and grep could be put into one command
[02:41] <strangle> MikeHaff: can't boot Windows or ubuntu or both in bios mode.
[02:42] <nobody1> undecim so should i just put nomodeset back?
[02:42] <undecim> nobody1, that sounds like the only way to get rid of flicker
[02:42] <MikeHaff> I cant boot into Bios strangle. I have to enter windows 8>PC Settings>Recovery>Advanced Start Up> Advanced Options> UEFI Boot Options. After i select that it doesnt even present the toshiba splash screen on reboot into UEFI Boot Options
[02:42] <undecim> nobody1, I've seen some posts saying that upgrading to 14.10 fixes it
[02:42] <strangle> nobody1: Are you on laptop
[02:43] <undecim> nobody1, But that's no guarantee
[02:43] <nobody1> stangle yes
[02:43] <undecim> strangle sounds like he has some ideas on fixing it if you want to continue
[02:43] <nobody1> undecim is it hard to upgrade like do i have to start from the beginning or just type something in CLI
[02:44] <strangle> MikeHaff: oh you want the Toshiba splash screen.
[02:44] <MikeHaff> no
[02:44] <noxchi> undecim: hmm, forgive my stupidity here, say my directory is ( /home/user/folder ) and inside there tons of folders containing thousands of files, how to use ls to get files extensions ? i appretiare your help :)
[02:44] <undecim> noxchi, You want it to recurse into directories?
[02:45] <MikeHaff> Im on windows 8, booting into it no problem. i needed to get into bios or uefi boot which i had to do via windows 8 advanced start up
[02:45] <strangle> MikeHaff: is their a secure boot option in uefi.
[02:45] <undecim> nobody1, you just have to type "do-release-upgrade" in the terminal
[02:45] <noxchi> no, i want to determine which types i should delete after that ,, because i have many  i dont need and it takes forever to open them using GUI
[02:46] <MikeHaff> there were no boot options
[02:46] <nobody1> undecim alright ill try that then
[02:46] <MikeHaff> beyond drive options
[02:46] <strangle> MikeHaff: during boot tap f12
[02:46] <MikeHaff> im trying to install ubuntu on a machine that doesnt let me pick a boot option
[02:46] <nobody1> undecim it says no new release found
[02:46] <undecim> noxchi, I don't understand what you're asking. You want a list of which extensions are there, like ".txt", ".doc", etc?
[02:47] <undecim> nobody1, You're on 14.04 LTS, or 14.10?
[02:47] <MikeHaff> strangle, windows 8 computers dont allow that
[02:47] <undecim> MikeHaff, yes they do
[02:47] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, you might do a vm till you figure this out, we have people wipe there set ups and brick at times.
[02:47] <MikeHaff> thats why i had to get into UEFI boot from windows
[02:47] <undecim> MikeHaff, I installed Lubuntu on 4 Win8 computers in 1 hour yesterday
[02:47] <MikeHaff> All i need now is how to install ubuntu in UEFI
[02:47] <undecim> MikeHaff, You need to disable fast boot
[02:47] <nobody1> undecim in the details it says 14.04 LTS
[02:47] <undecim> MikeHaff, It's in the "Choose what the power button does" section
[02:48] <undecim> MikeHaff, Also, you have to use the 64-bit version
[02:48] <MikeHaff> ill look again
[02:48] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, The manufacturers have their own fork of uefi, there is no exact method, but a series of options as seen in the urfi bot info.
[02:48] <undecim> nobody1, maybe you need to use "-d" for development version.
[02:48] <MikeHaff> I am using the 64 bit version
[02:48] <noxchi> undecim: yes .. i want to get the extensions inside...  so i can later choose extensions to delete ,,, like this (find /home/user/folder -name *.extention  -delete) ....
[02:48] <bubbasaures> uefi*
[02:48] <undecim> noxchi, Then you will want to use the "find" command
[02:48] <strangle> MikeHaff: tapping f12 during boot on most Toshiba's Will enter boot device options. Setup will also be an option
[02:49] <noxchi> undecim: i have many file types in there ... isnt there a command that gives me the types inside the folder?
[02:50] <undecim> noxchi, use "find /path/to/directory -type f -name '*.*' | sed 's/.*\./\./' | uniq"
[02:50] <nobody1> undecim so whats the whole command then
[02:50] <Bashing-om> nobody1: -> grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades <- to release upgrade 14.04/14.10 .. "prompt-normal' .
[02:50] <undecim> noxchi, that will list all the extensions in the directory
[02:50] <noxchi> Great
[02:50] <undecim> nobody1, do-dist-upgrade -d
[02:51] <nobody1> undecim no doesnt work
[02:51] <undecim> nobody1, sorry, do-release-upgrade -d
[02:52] <noxchi> undecim: i got this (find: `f': No such file or directory )
[02:52] <kokut> hello, anyone knows a good alternative to subdownloader?
[02:52] <nobody1> undecim alright its running
[02:52] <undecim> noxchi, put a space between the directory and -type
[02:52] <undecim> noxchi, Also, you can simply use "./" to refer to the current directory
[02:53] <MikeHaff> disabled secureboot
[02:53] <undecim> noxchi, If you want to DELETE EVERY instance of a specific extension in a directory, then you use "find /path/to/directory -iname '*.ext' -delete"
[02:53] <MikeHaff> still no f2 f12 option
[02:53] <undecim> noxchi, If you want to simply list the files (so you can look over the list, before deleting it), you leave out the "-delete" option.
[02:53] <undecim> MikeHaff, Not just secureboot
[02:53] <undecim> MikeHaff, Fastboot
[02:54] <undecim> or "fast startup" or whatever the MS team called it
[02:54] <MikeHaff> where is it because i didnt see anything else in power management
[02:54] <noxchi> undecim: yeah ive already used the -delete command.... and thanks the command u gave me above is working... its listing the extensions right now ... i have tones of them
[02:54] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, So even if you boot ubuntu, you have to resize windows with it's partitioner for a unallocated space for ubuntu.
[02:54] <undecim> MikeHaff, It's under a section titled something like "Choose what the power button does"
[02:54] <undecim> MikeHaff, It should be on the left-hand side in the power options
[02:55] <MikeHaff> it isnt
[02:55] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, THat for me?
[02:55] <Nathan2055> What is the recommend amount of RAM for Ubuntu?
[02:55] <undecim> MikeHaff, http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-or-enable-fast-startup-in-windows-8-1/
[02:55] <strangle> MikeHaff: when their look for option to change hidden items
[02:55] <MikeHaff> Bubb i havent even gotten to ubuntu yet
[02:56] <MikeHaff> still trying to tell windows to eff off lol
[02:56] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, You can tab complete nicks.
[02:56] <undecim> Nathan2055, If you have less than 512MB, you should consider Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[02:56] <noxchi> undecim: one last questions please, can i delete more than file type like this (find /path/to/directory -iname '*.txt' '*.doc' '*mp3' -delete ) ?
[02:57] <Nathan2055> I have 4GB in this laptop, I'm just wondering how much I should allocate to the VM?
[02:57] <bubbasaures> Nathan2055, 3 seconds to find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[02:57] <undecim> noxchi, You can use multiple -iname, if you put -o (for "or") in between
[02:57] <MikeHaff> undecim, thanks. now i shall try again, lol
[02:57] <undecim> noxchi, find /directory/ -iname '*.txt' -o -iname '*.doc'
[02:58] <undecim> noxchi, Be careful though. You can leave out -delete the first time to double-check what files will be deleted
[02:58] <noxchi> Great ... Thank you undecim :) u saved my day :)
[02:58] <strangle> Nathan2055: some recommend matching your ram.
[02:58] <undecim> noxchi, Also, if you're trying to make space, check out baobab
[02:59] <Nathan2055> Won't that make the Windows 7 host go boom, though?
[02:59] <noxchi> ill do
[02:59] <undecim> Nathan2055, 512MB Should be enough if you aren't doing anything Ram-intensive
[03:00] <Nathan2055> kk
[03:00] <undecim> Nathan2055, I've got an Ubuntu VM running just fine on in VirtualBox on 512MB ram, and 20% of a 4GHz core.
[03:01] <strangle> Nathan2055: oh I was think swap. On VM. It really won't slow it down using minimum ram. It will use system ram as needed anyway
[03:01] <Nathan2055> I assume max graphics memory, right?
[03:01] <undecim> Nathan2055, from the looks of it, I could get it down to 128MB
[03:01] <bubbasaures> undecim, ubuntu with a desktop, on 512?
[03:01] <undecim> Nathan2055, Actually, correction. This is Lubuntu I've got, not Ubuntu
[03:01] <bubbasaures> ah the truth ;)
[03:02] <undecim> I'm curious now, how low I can get Ubuntu
[03:02] <Nathan2055> How low can you go! How low can you go!
[03:02] <Nathan2055> :PP
[03:02] <Nathan2055> *:P
[03:02] <undecim> i'll try Lubuntu on 128MB first
[03:03] <bubbasaures> net installs of lubuntu can get a very small ram use
[03:03] <undecim> With a VM you can run the installer, then decrease the RAM later
[03:03] <quickputty> hello, anyone familiar with rsync?
[03:03] <undecim> quickputty, Ask your question and find out
[03:04] <garhowe45> heelo
[03:04] <quickputty> rsync are often use to sync source -->destination. is it possible to ask rsync to sync equally both. so if i put a folder will be sync
[03:04] <strangle> nobody1: what's your gpu and system
[03:04] <quickputty> so like, both can be source and destination
[03:04] <undecim> quickputty, You just run it twice
[03:05] <quickputty> wat do you mean
[03:05] <bubbasaures> quickputty, You want a auto rsync?
[03:05] <undecim> quickputty, But doing this makes one directory take precedence
[03:05] <nobody1> strangle my computer is asus q502l
[03:05] <quickputty> bubbasaures - not sure what you mean by auto rsync
[03:05] <quickputty> i need to be able to edit both folder
[03:05] <quickputty> and both folder is always sync
[03:05] <undecim> quickputty, I.e. if you sync A->B first, then files on A will overwrite files on B, but new files from B will appear on A
[03:05] <strangle> nobody1: what gpu
[03:05] <undecim> quickputty, I think BitTorrent Sync is what you want
[03:05] <bubbasaures> quickputty, automatic, or daily.....etc
[03:05] <quickputty> automatic would be great
[03:06] <undecim> quickputty, It's a persistent Sync, like Dropbox or similar, but connects directly between two computers
[03:06] <quickputty> undecim its on same computer
[03:06] <undecim> quickputty, Or any number of computers, for that matter.
[03:06] <quickputty> its 2 folder
[03:06] <bubbasaures> quickputty, cool thanks for confirming the end goal.
[03:06] <Nathan2055> Should I enable 3D acceleration on the VM? I went ahead and gave it max video RAM after what happened last night: http://i.imgur.com/xxcpm3B.png
[03:07] <undecim> quickputty, You could use a link or a bind to make the folders point to the same place?
[03:07] <undecim> Nathan2055, If this is VirtualBox with a Linux host, it doesn't matter
[03:07] <nobody1> strangle intel hd graphics 4400
[03:07] <quickputty> bubbasaures - well i have 2 folders with pictures inside. i often upload in the folder1 but my wife upload in folder2
[03:07] <Nathan2055> Alright, I'll leave it on then.
[03:07] <quickputty> i need both to be sync.
[03:08] <bubbasaures> quickputty, Looks like your being helped to me.
[03:08] <quickputty> undecim, its not my goal, bcuz both are in diffrerent hard drive. make it safer
[03:08] <maestrojed> Suddenly I am having input (keyboard and mouse) issues with my ubuntu desktop machine. The best way I can describe it is I can't click on most icons/buttons/elements but not all. Examples: System Settings Dialog - I can't click on any icon but I can click into the search box, input text, click in the text and move the curser, etc. Firefox: I can't click into the address bar but I can tab there and input text and then click in the
[03:08] <maestrojed>  text to move the curser. I can't click on the Close|Min|Max marbles in any application.
[03:08] <undecim> quickputty, gotcha
[03:08] <Nathan2055> Alright, here I go with the install...
[03:08] <nobody1> strangle im in the middle of upgraing to 14.10 to se if that works
[03:08] <undecim> Is there an rsync option to prevent overwriting?
[03:08] <quickputty> undecim : any sigestion?
[03:09] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, can you log out than in?
[03:09] <bubbasaures> or have you?
[03:09] <undecim> quickputty, I would do a cron job that runs rsync twice
[03:09] <undecim> quickputty, or just use "cp -n"
[03:09] <maestrojed> bubbasaures I have rebooted. I have been trouble shooting this for days. I haven't ask in here yet cause it seems so ill defined
[03:10] <quickputty> undecim - this wont work bcuz if i edit afile in the folder1 and folder2 got sync first. my file will dispear or replaced
[03:10] <demoun> .
[03:10] <maestrojed> Also I am getting an error when I run updates that only partial updates could complete. Though it doesn't tell me why. I am not sure if that is related
[03:10] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, check if the guest is the same.
[03:10] <maestrojed> bubbasaures ok
[03:10] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, Did you run any partial upgrades?
[03:11] <maestrojed> bubbasaures yes
[03:11] <undecim> quickputty, there is an rsync option to check for sync based on modification time
[03:11] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, THat is a huge mistake.
[03:11] <undecim> quickputty, i.e. the file with the latest modification time gets to be overwritten
[03:11] <demoun> 你们的速度好快..
[03:11] <bubbasaures> !cn | demoun
[03:11] <demoun> can i speak here
[03:11] <maestrojed> bubbasaures oh no :) I felt I was following what the dialog boxes were recommending
[03:11] <undecim> quickputty, correction, earliest modification time gets overwritten
[03:12] <maestrojed> bubbasaures guest acct works
[03:12] <maestrojed> bubbasaures let me switch back and confirm I still have an issue
[03:12] <undecim> quickputty, I think there's a rsync option that would keep copies of conflicting edits, too.
[03:12] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, Users some times do not know this, not really something I have the time to tear apart, others may be able however.
[03:12] <quickputty> undecim: is it automatic or there are a flag for it? or you are not sure?
[03:12] <undecim> quickputty, there is a flag
[03:12] <quickputty> undecim: oh, let me verify sound interesting!
[03:13] <quickputty> undecim: big thanks
[03:13] <undecim> Is RAID not an option?
[03:13] <maestrojed> bubbasaures I get that you can't go in depth, but what do you think the issue is in general? I can research and I know linux fairly well (though not desktop)
[03:14] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, depth yes generally, patience no. ;)
[03:14] <bubbasaures> better not start for me
[03:14] <undecim> quickputty. Or another option that may work better: use a symlink/bind to put them both on 1 drive, and use the other as a backup. This way you don't have to worry about conflicting edits or other sync issues
[03:15] <undecim> quickputty, It would also reduce wear on the backup drive
[03:15] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, Nothing personal. ;)
[03:16] <strangle> quickputty: or use online folder
[03:17] <strangle> quickputty: their are some like dropbox for Linux
[03:18] <strangle> quickputty: dropbox will put virtual folder on machine
[03:18] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, I use a basic statistics scientific inquiry method, start from the easiest options, that would include a cause and effect, I missed you asked this.
[03:18] <strangle> /
[03:18] <strangle> bubbasaures: sure you can
[03:19] <bubbasaures> can what?
[03:19] <strangle> 肏/操 You bubbasaures
[03:20] <bubbasaures> I'm not going to bother more than with an ignore on this
[03:21] <maestrojed> bubbasaures ah huh... I don't take it personally. It seemed like you had an idea of what was wrong since you said to try a guest acct and that did indeed work. I am not looking for a walk through. Nor am I a n00b. So a general topic to look into would have been fine.
[03:21] <maestrojed> I guess you are saying you don't have a general idea but are confident you could figure it out if you set out to it
[03:21] <maestrojed> I am sure you could
[03:21] <bubbasaures> !ops | strangle translate please
[03:22] <strangle> bubbasaures: what's that mean
[03:24] <undecim> Lubuntu is running on 128MB /800MHz in VirtualBox... but it's painful
[03:24] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, There is no general book on this or info really, a partial upgrade you would just want to know what upgraded I would suppose to start with. I asked to check the guest so we knew if this was system wide.
[03:24] <genii> bubbasaures: Don't use !ops unless it's some emergency
[03:24] <undecim> I think performance would be worse on bare metal, since the disk won't be cached
[03:25] <bubbasaures> genii, I rarely use ops
[03:25] <maestrojed> bubbasaures gotcha.
[03:26] <maestrojed> This is 12.04, Think an upgrade to 14.04 would fix it? :)
[03:26] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, not with held packages at the least
[03:28] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, check /home/username/.bash_history  for your bash info
[03:29] <bubbasaures> might be a clue there
[03:30] <bubbasaures> genii, Someone swearing in another language to get by with it seemed more like an ops issue, not my argument on channel COC is all.
[03:31] <maestrojed> the last "more complex" thing I did was enable wake on lan. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9739965/
[03:31] <rww> i note that "emergency" and "ops issue" are not the same thing
[03:31] <maestrojed> other than that its a lot of just nothing for a long time
[03:32] <maestrojed> By nothing I mean just typical usage.
[03:32] <bubbasaures> rww, Cool will stop by ops next time
[03:32] <custom> hey
[03:32] <bubbasaures> that is a definition per ops anyway, some roll some don't
[03:32] <custom> how can i see x desktop instead color in greyscale?
[03:35] <bubbasaures> custom, You might make that a bit clearer and include the release and desktop, and some hardware info
[03:36] <Nathan2055> So the installation went fine, but the screen is a bit small: http://i.imgur.com/O894b0H.png
[03:36] <Nathan2055> I assume the Guest Additions will fix that?
[03:36] <undecim> Nathan2055, yup
[03:36] <Nathan2055> kk
[03:36] <undecim> Nathan2055, gives you shared folder access, too
[03:36] <Nathan2055> Nice.
[03:36] <undecim> you have to use the mount command manually, though
[03:37] <undecim> or maybe fstab works. Haven't tried it
[03:37] <undecim> mount -t vboxsf foldername mountpoint
[03:38] <Nathan2055> Doesn't VBox have auto-mount?
[03:38] <undecim> Nathan2055, yeah, but it's never worked for Linux guests for me.
[03:38] <Nathan2055> Hmm, all right.
[03:39] <undecim> But isn't a little bit of manual CLI work what us Linux users sign up for anyways?
[03:40] <Nathan2055> :D
[03:40] <Nathan2055> Anyway, should I run apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade before loading the Guest Additions?
[03:41] <undecim> Nathan2055, sure
[03:42] <Nathan2055> But which should I do? Or should I use the graphical updater that's been nagging me since I first booted up?
[03:42] <undecim> Nathan2055, if you're not sure, just use the GUI
[03:42] <Nathan2055> kk
[03:43] <kim__> getting start up errors for GParted in 14.10, is the warning about being unable to inform the kernel of changes normal?  =]
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> kim__: could you paste this error?
[03:45] <Anuttymous> Hey, I'm having trouble getting touchpad input on my laptop, i.e. there is no mouse on-screen. 14.04
[03:46] <bubbasaures> Anuttymous, From the start/install?
[03:46] <Anuttymous> I'm using "Try Ubuntu" from USB
[03:47] <kim__> Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sda2 -- Invalid argument.  This means Linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/sda2 until you reboot -- so you shouldn't mount it or use it in any way before rebooting.
[03:47] <bubbasaures> Anuttymous, so with no changes, just a booted live you have this issue?
[03:47] <Anuttymous> yes
[03:48] <bubbasaures> Anuttymous, Great, thanks that is helpful for the channel to know, have you tried a mouse to confirm whether tap is working?
[03:48] <Anuttymous> I don't have a mouse I can test
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> kim__: how about fdisk -l can you see all partitions there?
[03:50] <bubbasaures> Anuttymous, two links that night help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection
[03:50] <bubbasaures> might*
[03:51] <bubbasaures> Anuttymous, ctrl-alt-t will bring you up a terminal.
[03:52] <kim__> I can see my boot and backup but not my main?
[03:53] <kim__> then this -Partition(s) 2 on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now before making further changes.
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> kim__: something might be gone wrong with that partition
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> kim__: did you try a reboot?
[03:53] <kim__> yes, I rebooted before posting here =[
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> kim__: this partition contains ext4 ?
[03:54] <kim__> I haven't really poked around it too much I've just never seen this error before
[03:54] <kim__> and yes
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> kim__: wich ubuntu version?
[03:55] <kim__> 14.10
[03:55] <kim__> You think maybe rollback?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> kim__: i would try a fresh reinstall of 14.04
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> kim__: backup your stuff first and reinstall freshly
[03:56] <kim__> I hate rolling back >.<  lol but yes maybe so
[03:56] <nobody1> undecim dam the upgrade broke the computer gotta re install ubuntu now :/
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | kim__ maybe this can also help
[03:57] <kim__> tyty
[04:01] <undecim> nobody1, That sucks
[04:01] <undecim> nobody1, Maybe try a fresh install of 14.10?
[04:01] <Anuttymous> So, xinput list provides no touchpad, mouse or anything, only XTEST pointer
[04:02] <OerHeks> Anuttymous, on what laptop exactly?
[04:02] <Anuttymous> It's a Medion Akoya
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> that explains it :p
[04:02] <nobody1> undecim na ima just set nomodeset and wait for a stable upgrade what was that line that i enter into grup to activate the backlight
[04:03] <OerHeks> Neer had issues with akoya .. did you check the FN key + mouse button ( F1-F12) for internal/external mouse?
[04:04] <Anuttymous> Fn key didn't seem to change anything
[04:05] <bubbasaures> my acer aspire one had fn-f6 for mouse control
[04:05] <maestrojed> I once compiled/installed Wine. I don't remember much it was a while ago. Now I am getting dependency errors cause it depends on a specific version of Ubuntu which I have upgraded past. I am fine with just removing Wine. Must I fix this dependency issues before I remove it? when I try to remove it, I get the same dependency error. I can provide more specifics if that will help
[04:05] <ion2> curl -o temporary.txt http://example.com/file.txt ; tar cJf output.tar.xz temporary.txt ; rm temporary.txt
[04:05] <bubbasaures> had to hit a couple of times usually
[04:05] <ion2> how to create output without creating temporary.txt before?
[04:06] <ion2> *output.tar.xz*
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> maestrojed: sure pasteubuntu us your errors on packages
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: you could try a real install instead of try live
[04:07] <Anuttymous> I'll try that, better dual boot, then
[04:08] <maestrojed> lotuspsychje http://paste.ubuntu.com/9740376/
[04:08] <yourbeau> who is using full disk encryption with Gnome here ?
[04:09] <maxwell> maestrojed,
[04:09] <maestrojed> sir
[04:09] <maxwell> remove wine-browser-installer first
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: ask your question mate
[04:10] <maestrojed> ok
[04:10] <bubbasaures> yourbeau, Better if you address your issue for help. ;)
[04:10] <maxwell> or better yet, remove both at once
[04:10] <yourbeau> lotuspsychje, bubbasaures ok I was just wondering if its popular or not
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | yourbeau
[04:11] <yourbeau> or if I am the only one who is extra paranoid
[04:11] <bubbasaures> yourbeau, Good way ti loose everything in my opinion.
[04:11] <yourbeau> is everyone using linux-libre with Ubuntu ?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: security paranoia has many flavors...my vision is external storage hidden deep under the ground
[04:12] <OerHeks> yourbeau, depends, how sensitive is your data ? if you run into issues, full encryption can be a hard nut to resolve
[04:12] <yourbeau> are all the software in Ubuntu Main Repo Free/LIbre ?
[04:12] <bubbasaures> cave encrypt
[04:12] <yourbeau> OerHeks, nothing secure at all
[04:12] <maxwell> maestrojed, did it work?
[04:12] <yourbeau> OerHeks, I mean my data don't need any kinda encryption
[04:12] <yourbeau> its public data mostly
[04:13] <Magnus__> How do I make file extensions disappear on documents and images in Ubuntu?
[04:13] <OerHeks> yourbeau, then i would advise to encrypt your /home only.
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> if they find an encrypted disk, they will try harder to break the security
[04:13] <yourbeau> I have heard it from forks at various channel Ubuntu's Main Repo has non-free software in it and its cheating its users ?
[04:13] <yourbeau> Is that true, OerHeks ?
[04:13] <maestrojed> maxwell ok, II uninstall the installer as you suggest. Then I get 3 broken dependencies (netflx-desktop, wine-sliverlight, wine-compholio. Makes sense, all related. So I remove Netflix. Then silverlight, then compholio. But that wine-compholio dependency error persists
[04:13] <maestrojed> wanna see a pastebin of all that?
[04:13] <yourbeau> Other than Kernel's non-free part what do you have thats non-free in the Main repo ?
[04:14] <OerHeks> yourbeau, please, this channel is for support, not FUD
[04:14] <yourbeau> OerHeks, Ok I already have FDE
[04:14] <maxwell> maestrojed, remove the installer
[04:14] <yourbeau> OerHeks, no but I am asking you since you are using it since long
[04:14] <yourbeau> I just want to be sure
[04:14] <Magnus__> How do I make file extensions disappear on documents and images in Ubuntu?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> Magnus__: whats your end goal with this?
[04:14] <Magnus__> Less clutter
[04:15] <maestrojed> maxwell http://paste.ubuntu.com/9740502/
[04:15] <OerHeks> yourbeau, there is no non-free software in main.
[04:15] <Magnus__> I like shorter names? Hate seeing the extensions such as .jpg and .docx, etc
[04:15] <maxwell> try interpreting the problem on your own. "The following packages have unmet dependencies:" is the line to look for. then you see <some package> : Depends: <package you are removing> etc
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> Magnus__: maybe somehwere deep in dconf-editor?
[04:16] <maxwell> this means you need to remove <some package
[04:16] <Magnus__> where can I find that?
[04:16] <ion2> hello where can I ask Linux command line?
[04:16] <maestrojed> maxwell yes sir, I do. that is what I tried to say. I continue to remove each of these.
[04:16] <maestrojed> I remove netflix and it disappears from the list
[04:16] <maxwell> try removing all at once
[04:16] <maestrojed> then sliverlight
[04:16] <maestrojed> ok
[04:16] <maxwell> in one command
[04:17] <maestrojed> ok, does order matter? I will give it a try
[04:17] <maxwell> it doesn't
[04:17] <maxwell> I would also recommend removing `wine*' just to make life easier
[04:18] <maxwell> that will remove every package that has "wine" in its name
[04:18] <maestrojed> maxwell I tried that, It said no package found. But removing all in one command certainly seems to be working
[04:18] <anishparanjpe> I am installing the latest kernel. I was wondering if 'make install' overwrite my previous kernels entry. Will I be able to boot into my previous kernel
[04:18] <maestrojed> maxwell oh
[04:18] <maxwell> ahh, coog
[04:18] <maestrojed> maxwell I see the wildcard now
[04:18] <maxwell> yes
[04:19] <maestrojed> gotcha, thanks
[04:19] <maxwell> wildcard is what I mean
[04:19] <maxwell> but!
[04:19] <maestrojed> !
[04:19] <maestrojed> :)
[04:19] <maxwell> look throught the list of whats to be removed
[04:19] <maestrojed> gotcha. Thanks for the help!
[04:19] <maxwell> you don't want to kill your system now do you?
[04:19] <maxwell> :D
[04:20] <maestrojed> If this doesn't fix some of my more general issues I might!! I am starting with obvious errors
[04:20] <maxwell> mhm
[04:20] <maxwell> I see
[04:20] <OerHeks> anishparanjpe, sure, hold shift @ boot and choose previous kernel, if you need it.
[04:21] <maxwell> operating systems do tend to get more buggy as time goes on
[04:21] <maxwell> ubuntu less than Windows of course, but still
[04:21] <anishparanjpe> Do i have to compile the proprietary drivers for the new kernel?
[04:22] <bubbasaures> anishparanjpe, You might name that "new kernel"
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> maestrojed: nothing better then a fresh installed ubuntu
[04:23] <OerHeks> anishparanjpe, if you build your kernel yourself, you might run into issues we cannot help you with.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | anishparanjpe
[04:23] <maestrojed> lotuspsychje maxwell  :) I hear you. I do need to move from 12 to 14
[04:23] <maxwell> that too
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> maestrojed: 14.04 with ease up your life for sure..
[04:24] <maestrojed> yeah, still having issues.
[04:24] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, Do you have a seperate home?
[04:24] <eko> opo ae kah
[04:24] <maestrojed> Seems user/profile specific
[04:25] <maestrojed> bubbasaures what do you mean?
[04:25] <Anuttymous> Ubuntu installed now, but still no mouse/pad cursor
[04:25] <maestrojed> it was bubbasaures  that earlier suggested I test the guest account which seems to work fine
[04:25] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, User at times have root / and a home partition so installs can pick that up/
[04:26] <maestrojed> I get a "System program problem detected" when I log in. Inputs act all wonky and programs have issues in general
[04:26] <maestrojed> bubbasaures yes, I have a  user with a home dir of /home/mallory
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> whats the trigger for indonesia?
[04:27] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, In it's own partition?
[04:27] <wizworks> anyone try installing ubuntu (CLI only) on banana pi?
[04:27] <maestrojed> bubbasaures no
[04:27] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, Ah, that was the key, you can move it to one their is a wiki, however lets see what the others think on this, if you want to.
[04:27] <bubbasaures> there*
[04:28] <Anuttymous> still no mouse/pad from xinput list
[04:29] <bubbasaures> wizworks, that unit will run ubuntu, text is the easy part, be more clear on this.
[04:31] <bubbasaures> wizworks, With a desktop you would have to check it's specs, it's gotta be really light on the hardware end.
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: did you doublecheck your bios for weird settings?
[04:32] <Anuttymous> What kind of weirdness should I be looking for?
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: anything related to mouse or touchpad
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: i recently formatted a medion akoya with ubuntu, had to disable fastboot and secureboot deep in bios options
[04:33] <Anuttymous> already disabled
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: try F1 at your usb ubuntu boot, to get more options
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: maybe a no_acpi or nomodeset can fix?
[04:34] <Anuttymous> secureboot wasn't. trying again
[04:34] <anishparanjpe> OerHeks: agreed, but I can still revert to my previous version anytime
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: what are you trying to get working exactly?
[04:35] <anishparanjpe> I am trying to keep my kernel insync with the actual source
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: you said something about a driver?
[04:36] <Anuttymous> no luck. How do I go about no_acpi or nomodeset?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Anuttymous
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: try to hit F1 at ubuntu usb boot
[04:37] <anishparanjpe> Yes, My wifi driver is propretiery. It won't be built from the kernel source. So, how can I tell my new kernel to load that driver at bootup
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: ubuntu version and wifi chipset + driver?
[04:38] <anishparanjpe> 14.04 broadcom-4312 wl
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | anishparanjpe
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: maybe broadcoms need fixing
[04:38] <Anuttymous> F1 didn't seem to do anything
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: this si the screen you need to get: http://i.stack.imgur.com/O2m9a.png
[04:41] <anishparanjpe> ubottu: The website mentions opensource drivers. Should I go with them, or the ones on broadcoms website
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: the ones working best, you need to try them out
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: your additional drivers section doesnt show STA broadcom?
[04:42] <anishparanjpe> Yes it does.
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: did you try a switch from there?
[04:42] <Anuttymous> I can't seem to get to that screen
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: hmmm, f1 or F6
[04:43] <Anuttymous> nope
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: normally F1 at purple ubuntu boot, should work
[04:44] <anishparanjpe> It doesn't mention anything about free drivers. Either use the proprietory or none
[04:44] <Anuttymous> I am doing that. before it pulls up the load bar, whilst screen edge is purple
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: ok, well check that b43 website, might solve
[04:46] <GuyOn1G> Hi
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: not sure mate, doublecheck bios for keys enabled or something?
[04:47] <GuyOn1G> What?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: this should work normally
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: maybe put bios to defaults, might solve stuff?
[04:53] <Anuttymous> doesn't seem to be getting anywhere
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: and your mouse/touch works in win?
[04:54] <Anuttymous> Yeah, just fine
[04:54] <Nathan2055> What is the name of the VBox Guest Additions package in the Ubuntu repo?
[04:55] <undecim> nobody1, The backlight was fixed by adding some lines to Xorg.conf
[04:55] <undecim> nobody1, First answer here has the lines: http://askubuntu.com/questions/476664/cannot-change-backlight-brightness-ubuntu-14-04 but I would put them in Xorg.conf, rather than a file in /usr/
[04:56] <nobody1> undecim thank you
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: maybe its a kernel thing, you could try 14.10 maybe
[04:57] <anishparanjpe> I want to find all the modules that ubuntu installed apart from those in the kernel source. Is there a list of those modules?
[04:59] <Anuttymous> what's the fastest way to get 14.10?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: download it from ubuntu?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: and make a stick
[04:59] <Anuttymous> I'll give it a try then
[05:00] <Anuttymous> thanks for the help
[05:00] <Nathan2055> Never mind, I found it: virtualbox-guest-x11
[05:00] <nobody1> undecim do you know how to fix the button not working for the brightness?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: found a bug on it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233632&page=2
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: this can help you mate? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: man lsmod
[05:07] <anishparanjpe> modules.order does not contain proprietary drivers
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: maybe the #ubuntu-devel guys might know more about it?
[05:09] <FlumeRouge> I am trying to search online about something for which I do not know the name: the search functionality (I'm running 14.04) which allows you to find apps/files/etc. on your system; I can launch it by pressing the system key (whatever that thing is between the Ctrl and Alt on my PC keyboard)?
[05:11] <bubbasaures> FlumeRouge, the dash in unity
[05:11] <FlumeRouge> @bubba: So, "Unity dash" ?
[05:12] <bubbasaures> FlumeRouge, Probably a good search use dash alone could show anything.
[05:13] <undecim> nobody1, There is a command for changing the brightness that can be mapped to the button
[05:14] <nobody1> undecim my fn+f4 and fn+f5 keys control the brightness but when i press it, nothing happens
[05:15] <undecim> nobody1, I think you will have to install xbacklight
[05:16] <undecim> nobody1, then, go to your Keyboard settings
[05:17] <undecim> nobody1, add a custom shortcut (the "+" below the list), use your brightness up key and map it to the command "xbacklight -inc 10" and map the brightness down key to "xbacklight -dec 10"
[05:17] <undecim> nobody1, You can change the "10" in the commands to whatever increment you prefer
[05:17] <undecim> Make sure you can change the brightness without the keys though
[05:17] <undecim> Through the GUI
[05:18] <nobody1> undecim ok
[05:21] <Magnus__> I type cd / and I get the response rbash: cd: restricted. How do I fix?
[05:22] <FlumeRouge> bubbasaures: danke
[05:23] <bubbasaures> FlumeRouge, no prob, enjoy.
[05:28] <hu> hello
[05:29] <hu> i donnot know hopw to do this
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !ask | hu
[05:30] <hu> i get it
[05:34] <myl3la> I love ubuntu ;)
[05:35] <undecim> myl3la, You're in the right place then
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> !yay | myl3la
[05:35] <bubbasaures> myl3la, You have a habit of this, can we stick with support there is a off topic channel. ;)
[05:41] <root________> Help, I'm fixing someone's ubuntu 14.04, and in attempting to set a custom MAC address for a wired NIC, somehow network manager GUI has been nerfed so that it won't even attempt to start the NIC.  How can I reset it?  I can't access anything meaningful via GUI, so it has to be CLI
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !info macchanger | root________
[05:43] <root________> lotuspsychje, thanks, lotuspsychje.  But the mac change is no longer needed.  Just need to purge the network manager configuration...
[05:43] <root________> want to reset network-manager to a pristine state.
[05:43] <myl3la> bubbasaures, of course ;)
[05:52] <root________> so the CORRECT answer was to manually remove the MAC addresses from the profiles in  /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections .
[05:52] <root________> locate -i networkmanager was enough to find those files and fix it.
[05:54] <electricfred> Hi all. So new install of Ubuntu server from liveusb.  Blank screen on boot and suspect it's the gxf mode in grub.  How do I switch to text mode in the grub editor to try?
[05:54] <undecim> electricfred, hold left shift on boot
[06:01] <electricfred> undecim,  nope.... screen still goes off.  I believe it machine is still running (Cl+alt+del still reboots the machine).  Same result in recovery mode from GRUB
[06:01] <undecim> electricfred, Are you able to get the grub menu at all?
[06:03] <electricfred> yes.... f8 gets me to it, and I can get in to edit.  Just unsure the line structure to change, and how to make it stick for a boot to try.  I tried deleting the whole line, but no avail
[06:04] <javnut> I've got a usb mic, and pulse-audio picks it up (I see the measure moving when I speak) but audacity+recorder don't pick up the mic
[06:05] <undecim> javnut, Checked the audacity prefs?
[06:06] <undecim> electricfred, there should be a line about gfx. Let me pull up my grub.cfg
[06:06] <javnut> undecim: I'm on there now, it lets me chose the recording device but there's like 20, and the labels don't help
[06:07] <javnut> hmmm. guess I got lucky
[06:08] <undecim> electricfred, try adding "gfxpayload=text" at the end of the linux line.
[06:08] <undecim> electricfred, when you find a successful boot config, we can make it permanent from the OS
[06:10] <rimdeker> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu and my graphics card keeps running its fan on full speed using the AMD open source drivers. The quality of graphics are all dandy but I would kind of like to turn down the fan speed, manually if necessary. Is that possible?
[06:10] <rimdeker> My graphics card is an AMD Radean HD 7770 and dmesg is following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9741750/
[06:12] <electricfred> undecim..... nada on that one either... I presume after adding the line, just the cntl-X will boot with the changes.
[06:13] <undecim> electricfred, yes
[06:13] <undecim> electricfred, you added a line?
[06:14] <electricfred> yes I did..... same result.  but let me try again
[06:14] <undecim> what line did you add?
[06:14] <undecim> the gfxpayload=text should have gone on the same line as linux
[06:16] <electricfred> undecim, on the linux /boot line, yes that's where I put it.
[06:17] <undecim> electricfred, you should get a live CD and make sure the logs indicate a successful boot
[06:20] <electricfred> undecim,  would be nice... but the asus eeebox doesn't have a drive. usb only.  Used startdisk creator to make the bootable usb from duplicate machine w/ubuntu desktop.  What would I be looking for in the logs of the usb?
[06:21] <undecim> electricfred, on the PC, you would look at /var/log/kern.log, and see if it has a successful boot
[06:22] <undecim> electricfred, the existence of the file (if its not empty?) would indicate that the drive was mounted in read-write mode
[06:22] <undecim> electricfred, which would indicate that the system is at getting paste the "most difficult" part of the boot process
[06:23] <electricfred> undecim,  hehe.... if I had a screen to see...
[06:23] <undecim> electricfred, why can't you just use the same USB?
[06:25] <ironfoot495> Hello I really need help getting blue tooth to work for my wireless printer and other operations.
[06:25] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth | ironfoot495
[06:26] <LordFoobar_> hi, I want to start flashplayer (standalone) to run a SWF file, and I managed to install all dependencies, but now it fails with "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"". I'm running Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 LTE 64-bit, and Adobe's lousy player is 32-bit. I installed gtk2-engines:i386, but it does not fix the problem. Any help appreciated.
[06:26] <ironfoot495> thanks really aprecfate it.
[06:26] <cfhowlett> ironfoot495, happy2help!
[06:27] <boodllebat> is GSOC contributuion > github contribution ?
[06:28] <LordFoobar_> right, found *that* solution here : https://ubuntutechnical.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/gtk-warning-unable-to-locate-theme-engine-in-module_path-pixmap/
[06:28] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, you'd have to ask google, but I suspect that gsoc stuff goes to a git
[06:28] <LordFoobar_> actually, I still have that error : "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"" :/
[06:28] <electricfred> undecim,  let me guess (i'm an idiot)... boot from the "rescue mode" of the install????
[06:29] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: so working on github repo is same as working on GSOC ?
[06:30] <undecim> electricfred, no, just boot it like normal
[06:30] <undecim> electricfred, Wait, this is a server USB installer?
[06:30] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, absolutely not.  git is a storage medium used by MANY developers/teams
[06:30] <LordFoobar_> stupid Adobe
[06:30] <ironfoot495> cfhowlett: I have another severe problem I can't get the cmd line to stick to the top display  do you know what I mean?
[06:30] <electricfred> undecim, yes it is....
[06:31] <undecim> electricfred, use unetbootin and make one for the desktop version
[06:31] <cfhowlett> ironfoot495, nope.  picture time
[06:31] <cfhowlett> ironfoot495, i.e. send a screenshot
[06:31] <undecim> electricfred, use that one as a liveUSB and check the logs
[06:31] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: for example contributing to mozzilla repo on GSOC is greater than contibuting on mozzilla repo on github ?
[06:31] <LordFoobar_> can't even make something that works
[06:32] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, suggest you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:32] <ironfoot495> no matter  what I do  the command line is soppose to be seen at the top but it does not????
[06:32] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: can i talk to you in privte ?
[06:32] <undecim> LordFoobar_, as an easy fix, try installing 32-bit version in VirtualBox
[06:32] <undecim> LordFoobar_, Performance might suck, though.
[06:33] <cfhowlett> ironfoot495, no.  each command and feedback goes UNDER the previous one ... terminal standard behavior
[06:33] <LordFoobar_> undecim, yeah, performance is critical here
[06:33] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, nothing more I can add to your discussion.  sorry.  #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux would know more
[06:33] <undecim> LordFoobar_, Or, make a basic web page that just loads the swf
[06:33] <ironfoot495> wait one
[06:34] <undecim> LordFoobar_, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/137326/how-to-embed-a-swf-file-in-a-html-page
[06:34] <LordFoobar_> undecim, haha thanks. I know how to load a swf in a web page, unfortunately, this one does not load in a browser
[06:34] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: oh Thank You for your time
[06:35] <electricfred> undecim, ah... think I gotcha...  yes, have a 2nd identical machine with the desktop installed (took me a while on that install as well b4 it worked, but same solution didn't apply to server)
[06:35] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, happy2help!
[06:35] <undecim> what was the fix for desktop?
[06:35] <sherlock_regus> i accidentally dd my hard disk
[06:35] <undecim> electricfred,  what was the fix for desktop?
[06:35] <sherlock_regus> i had win 8 and ubntu
[06:35] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: how long did it run>
[06:36] <ironfoot495> cfhowlett:
[06:36] <cfhowlett> ironfoot495, eth?
[06:36] <sherlock_regus> not much
[06:36] <sherlock_regus> withina  sec
[06:36] <sherlock_regus> but now i installed ubuntu in it
[06:37] <sherlock_regus> but my win 8 in ssd is not accessable
[06:37] <sherlock_regus> the win boot file was in the hard disk
[06:37] <undecim> LordFoobar_, You probably need a libcanberra package
[06:37] <sherlock_regus> after it was dd i couldnt install any win version on it
[06:37] <cfhowlett> sherlock_regus, ask ##windows
[06:38] <electricfred> undecim,  was put on to the  acpi=off and nomodeset options... while individually they didn't work, I check'd all the options and that gave me a working boot on the vga.  just had to let the first boot churn for 4 minutes before the screen came back
[06:38] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: you mean win is on another hd?
[06:38] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: do you mean that grub doesn't find windows?
[06:38] <undecim> electricfred, shouldn't be any different for the server edition
[06:39] <sherlock_regus> yup
[06:39] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: ok, are you in ubuntu right now?
[06:40] <sherlock_regus> yup
[06:40] <sherlock_regus> i cant boot to win
[06:40] <rimdeker> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu and my graphics card keeps running its fan on full speed using the AMD open source drivers. The quality of graphics are all dandy but I would kind of like to turn down the fan speed, manually if necessary. Is that possible?
[06:40] <rimdeker> My graphics card is an AMD Radean HD 7770 and dmesg is following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9741750/
[06:40] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[06:40] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: ^
[06:41] <LordFoobar_> undecim, I think I fixed that as I don't get the GTK error anymore. But I get this one : "(flashplayer:742): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance with invalid (NULL) class pointer", then "(flashplayer:742): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_handlers_disconnect_matched: assertion 'G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed"
[06:42] <undecim> LordFoobar_, Why wont it run in the browser?
[06:44] <sherlock_regus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9742101/
[06:44] <sherlock_regus> EriC^^,
[06:45] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: this is really odd
[06:45] <sherlock_regus> is there no way out
[06:46] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: you have gpt and an efi partition, and on the other disk it's msdos ( the one with ubuntu )
[06:46] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, 315mb "basic data" ??? I thought windows restore partition, but that should some GB not 315 mb
[06:46] <LordFoobar_> undecim, don't know :) I didn't code it. And so far, it should run in a projector. I managed to run a Windows Flash projector with Wine. The SWF loads. heh
[06:47] <sherlock_regus> i have made a ntfs partition
[06:47] <sherlock_regus> i gave ubuntu 120 gb
[06:48] <electricfred> undecim, you would think it wouldn't be different.  looking at the USB and can't see any logs.  Where would they be?
[06:48] <undecim> electricfred, They will be in /var/log on the hard drive of the PC
[06:48] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: yeah
[06:48] <undecim> sherlock_regus, if you do "sudo update-grub", does it mention Windows?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, then again: gtp, ssd + hdd combo ... I'm not familiar with the newer install options.  just looks odd to me
[06:49] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: what you can do is set uefi enabled in the bios
[06:49] <Novice201y> Hi. How can I choose which ciphers I want to be used for specific SSH connection?
[06:50] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: yeah definitely something is odd
[06:50] <sherlock_regus> undecim, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9742190/
[06:50] <sherlock_regus> EriC^^, uefi is already set to enable
[06:50] <undecim> Novice201y, the "Cipher" directive in your ssh config?
[06:50] <sherlock_regus> otherwise i cant boot into ubuntu
[06:51] <undecim> sherlock_regus, you should be able to boot Windows just fine.
[06:51] <undecim> sherlock_regus, If it wasn't showing up in the boot list before, that update command just added it
[06:51] <maxton93> hi all
[06:51] <sherlock_regus> i had this prob b4
[06:52] <sherlock_regus> kk i'll be back
[06:52] <sherlock_regus> pls wait
[06:52] <Novice201y> undecim: Thanks.
[06:52] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: hold on
[06:52] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: ok
[06:52] <sherlock_regus> what happened EriC^^
[06:53] <sherlock_regus> i want to check whether the grub is updated
[06:53] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: type sudo efibootmgr -v
[06:53] <maxton93> There's a way to print a web page in landascape mode pdf with Ubuntu? (AKA, there's an alternative to option-less CUP-PDF ?)
[06:54] <undecim> maxton93, In Firefox, I have a "Print to File" option
[06:54] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: are you booting the disk that has windows or the second one?
[06:54] <sherlock_regus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9742221/
[06:54] <sherlock_regus> i am booting the second disk
[06:54] <maxton93> undecim that option doesn't call CUPS-PDF?
[06:55] <undecim> maxton93, I have no idea... what does it matter?
[06:55] <sherlock_regus> EriC^^, actually i had this prob b4
[06:55] <cfhowlett> maxton93, of course.  from ff, print > Page setup > Paper > orientation > landscape
[06:55] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: ok, restart looks like it might work
[06:55] <undecim> maxton93, I think it's a firefox thing
[06:55] <cfhowlett> maxton93, Print to File
[06:56] <electricfred> undecim, well hittin midnight, thnx for the help.  4 days at this & txt gettin blurry...LOL.  may pick this up 2morrow.  Cheers
[06:56] <sherlock_regus> when i installed ubutnu
[06:57] <maxton93> cfholett I don't have "print to file" in my printers page...
[06:57] <sherlock_regus> so i did a boot repair at that time
[06:57] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: did it work?
[06:57] <cfhowlett> maxton93, FIREFOX > file > print ...
[06:57] <sherlock_regus> i have not done it yet
[06:57] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: i think your good, but your setup is one of the oddest i've seen here
[06:57] <sherlock_regus> actaully i'm downloading  something so its gonna fifnish soon
[06:58] <sherlock_regus> so i was waiting for it to finish
[06:58] <sherlock_regus> i know
[06:58] <sherlock_regus> i think its with the ultrabook series
[06:58] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: you're using the efi partition on disk 1 to boot ubuntu which is on a msdos disk
[06:59] <EriC^^> pretty cool that it works though
[06:59] <sherlock_regus> so when i reboot should i disable the uefi
[06:59] <EriC^^> no you need that
[06:59] <sherlock_regus> kk
[07:02] <maxton93> cfhowlett the page in question is a flash brochure that call the minified version of system printers ("print to file" it's nont available in that window, only phisical printer and cups...)
[07:02] <cfhowlett> maxton93, sorry, can't help then.
[07:04] <maxton93> cfhowlett There's an alterative-to-cups virtual printer package in ubuntu/debian repo?
[07:05] <cfhowlett> maxton93, never used anything like that.  I print pdf's from the browswer all the time with just FFox and ubuntu.
[07:05] <maxton93> cfhowlett so do I
[07:05] <maxton93> cfhowlett Till now that I nedd a landscape pdf print....
[07:06] <maxton93> cfhowlett *need
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> maxton93: there are many online pdf editors
[07:13] <maxton93> lotuspsychje would you manually rotate 100 pdf pages, instead of printing landscape mode in the first place?
[07:15] <sherlock_regus> EriC^^, didnt work
[07:15] <sherlock_regus> its till the same
[07:15] <sherlock_regus> it showed no such device found
[07:15] <sherlock_regus> and a serial id
[07:15] <sherlock_regus> and grub rescue
[07:16] <cfhowlett> maxton93, wait, that's the issue?  print those puppies and then use ghostscript to rotate.  EZ
[07:21] <maxton93> cfhowlett I think loose half of the resolution....
[07:21] <cfhowlett> maxton93, suggest you test: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3089773/how-to-change-page-orientation-of-pdf-ghostscript-or-postsscript-solution-need
[07:22] <maxton93> cfhowlett thanks, I'll take a look
[07:22] <cfhowlett> maxton93, this line:  gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile="page2rot.pdf" -dNOPAUSE -dEPSCrop -c "<</Orientation 0>> setpagedevice" -f "page2.pdf" -c quit can you see an issue with this? –  Pureferret Apr 19 '12 at 13:38
[07:23] <sherlock_regus> EriC^^,
[07:23] <maxton93> cfhowlett It's a known bug, CUP-PDF doesn't use gs for rendering.....
[07:24] <cfhowlett> maxton93, OK, but once you HAVE the pdf, you can manipulate with GS ... right?
[07:24] <cfhowlett> maxton93, and to GS a collection of 100, should be pretty simple
[07:25] <maxton93> cfhowlett yep, but once print in pdf, the image it's half of the original resolution....
[07:25] <cfhowlett> maxton93, ah.  didn't not know that.
[07:26] <skweek> how do I get a device to load a certian driver?
[07:26] <maxton93> cfhowlett landscape page printed in portrait pdf end with half resolution, no matter what gs do after print...
[07:27] <cfhowlett> maxton93, ow.  so ... convert to image, rotate, convert back to pdf?  wonky, I know but ...
[07:28] <maxton93> <cfhowlett image is still of the same resolution of the half-pdf...
[07:28] <cfhowlett> maxton93, outside my area of "expertise" then - sorry
[07:29] <skweek> does anyone know how to get a device to load a certian driver?
[07:30] <bubbasaures> skweek, rather open ended, can you be specific?
[07:31] <maxton93> cfhowlett anyway, if there's really no virtual printer alternatives to CUPS-PDF , I'll go with the windows-adobe way....
[07:31] <skweek> a usb device to load a dm9601.ko ?
[07:32] <bubbasaures> skweek, This a usb wifi and have you been here before on this?
[07:33] <skweek> i've been working on this for a week
[07:33] <skweek> made some progress but still can't figure out some steps
[07:33] <bubbasaures> skweek, I believe everyone tried to help, and asked it not be addressed again, is this correct?
[07:33] <skweek> yes and no
[07:34] <bubbasaures> skweek, Please respect the channel for this, we do not do miracles. ;)
[07:34] <skweek> do you know how to load a device with a driver?
[07:34] <skweek> right
[07:34] <skweek> ?
[07:35] <skweek> do you know how to get a device to pick up a driver?
[07:35] <bubbasaures> skweek, I have no idea, I saw others with all the skills needed not fix it, nothing I could do.
[07:35] <skweek> a few days ago I was looking at binding the device to load a driver but hadn't figured out how to do that
[07:36] <skweek> okies
[07:36] <maxton93> cfhowlett thanks for help (to all) ...bye
[07:37] <bubbasaures> skweek, Plenty of cheap usb ubuntu plug and play, you can take the radio shack loss in linux get one that works.
[07:37] <skweek> i'm sorry bubbasaures, that isn't an option
[07:37] <sacarlson> skweek: I was able to get a usb device called nocturn to work with a custom driver using some tools in python
[07:38] <sacarlson> skweek: it at least teaches you the methods and what is needed to get a driver to work
[07:38] <bubbasaures> skweek, Bummer, I do wish you the best of luck.
[07:40] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: you there
[07:41] <sherlock_regus> ya
[07:41] <EriC^^> ok type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[07:41] <EriC^^> then type sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[07:42] <sherlock_regus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9742749/
[07:42] <skweek> sacarlson, that's interesting
[07:43] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[07:44] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: wait, try to select the first disk in the bios
[07:44] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: if you press esc or something, you shoud get a boot options menu that says ubuntu and maybe os manager
[07:45] <sherlock_regus> EriC^^,
[07:45] <sacarlson> skweek: I'm not sure what you tried already but it looks like it's already been done http://askubuntu.com/questions/116615/davicom-dm9601-usb-lan-nic-ubuntu-11-10-issue
[07:45] <sherlock_regus> when had this prob the first time i did a startup repair using win 7 live cd
[07:45] <omkar30> hello
[07:45] <sherlock_regus> so i should get into multiboot options
[07:46] <sherlock_regus> ??
[07:46] <omkar30> Is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS using pendrive... as in apt could detect pendrive as an medium and use its packages to update the machine
[07:46] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: you're sure you're booting in uefi mode?
[07:46] <sherlock_regus> ya
[07:46] <sherlock_regus> of course
[07:47] <EriC^^> ok, and you get grub
[07:47] <EriC^^> ?
[07:47] <sherlock_regus> ya
[07:47] <EriC^^> is there a windows entry
[07:47] <sherlock_regus> ya sda2
[07:47] <EriC^^> ok, when you press that what happens
[07:48] <sherlock_regus> it shows no such device found and a long serial key type code
[07:48] <EriC^^> ok, i think you need to repair it using a win cd
[07:48] <sherlock_regus> kk
[07:48] <sherlock_regus> win 7 or 8
[07:49] <Stephen_Reeves> I'm having a problem with my swap file http://paste.ubuntu.com/9742821/
[07:49] <EriC^^> if you're running win8, win8 cd i guess
[07:49] <sherlock_regus> but last time i used win 7
[07:49] <sherlock_regus> to repair
[07:50] <sherlock_regus> kk first i'll try with win8
[07:50] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: ok, i've no idea about that
[07:50] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, Kinda a funky setup sda gpt, sdb msdos
[07:50] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: yeah, probably best to use win8
[07:50] <sherlock_regus> will that repair affect my  ubuntu
[07:51] <bubbasaures> gpt table antway
[07:51] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: no, it shouldn't
[07:51] <sherlock_regus> kk
[07:51] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: if it does, it's not a big deal
[07:51] <EriC^^> you'll reinstall grub-efi
[07:51] <sherlock_regus> how??
[07:52] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: boot a live usb, chroot and reinstall
[07:52] <sherlock_regus> reinstall the whole ubuntu
[07:52] <EriC^^> no, just grub
[07:52] <sherlock_regus> can u give me the commands
[07:53] <sherlock_regus> actually i'm not familiar with it
[07:53] <EriC^^> do you have a live usb ready?
[07:53] <sherlock_regus> not now
[07:53] <sacarlson> Stephen_Reeves: did you read this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/544054/ubuntu-14-04-wont-turn-swap-on-at-boot
[07:53] <EriC^^> make one, and fix windows
[07:53] <sherlock_regus> kk
[07:53] <EriC^^> if it doesn't work boot the live usb and come back here
[07:53] <sherlock_regus> u'll be here??
[07:54] <sherlock_regus> kk
[07:54] <EriC^^> yes and if im not many can help you with it
[07:54] <EriC^^> dont worry
[07:54] <sherlock_regus> no the prob is i 'll have to expalin the whole thing again
[07:54] <sherlock_regus> and u know abt this very well by now
[07:55] <Stephen_Reeves> sacarlson, what's the command to see all of your partitions?
[07:56] <sacarlson> Stephen_Reeves: there are several methods one being the old way I think is sudo fdisk -l
[08:00] <gully-foyle> hey guys, newbie here. how do I encrypt select folders in a external hard drive in ubuntu 14.10?
[08:01] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: no big deal, explain the situation briefly and you should be good
[08:01] <EriC^^> gully-foyle: you can use encfs
[08:02] <gully-foyle> do I have to install it?
[08:02] <gully-foyle> I can't find it
[08:09] <bubbasaures> gully-foyle, encryption id fine if needed, however if you have issues you are most likely not going to retrieve.
[08:09] <bubbasaures> is*
[08:11] <bubbasaures> !bootinfo | sherlock_regus I would run this and have the scripts output available.
[08:13] <eth0> yop
[08:13] <Stephen_Reeves> who was just helping me?
[08:13] <Stephen_Reeves> whoever it was, I appreciate it. That fixed the problem
[08:19] <sherlock_regus> bubbasaures, ubottu http://paste.ubuntu.com/9743131/
[08:20] <EriC^^> gully-foyle: yeah you need to install it
[08:21] <EriC^^> gully-foyle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption
[08:21] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, have you tried having sdb first read in the bios? Not sure if possible in   uefi bios
[08:21] <bubbasaures> would assume so
[08:22] <sherlock_regus> yup
[08:22] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, Ubuntu at this point is not booting right? I am aware of your loss of W8.
[08:23] <sherlock_regus> ubuntu is booting
[08:23] <sherlock_regus> right now i'm in it
[08:23] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, THe install?
[08:23] <sherlock_regus> pardon
[08:24] <sherlock_regus> i didnt get u
[08:24] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, Is the ubuntu install on sdb booting?
[08:24] <sherlock_regus> ya
[08:25] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, Honestly that is a setup that is much harder than it needs to be, what is the end goal the windows reinstall?
[08:27] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, Yo\u have a msdos ubuntu and a ubuntu efi in sda
[08:28] <francesco_> hi
[08:28] <francesco_> list
[08:28] <bubbasaures> francesco_, no ware here
[08:28] <francesco_> ok
[08:29] <francesco_> come entro grazie
[08:32] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus,Honestly if it were me I would wipe everything and set up both HD's as gpt or msdos and get set up correct, just enough varibles there to put you in a situation like this, windows my still be there I see missing bcd boot stuff as well.
[08:32] <bubbasaures> may*
[08:33] <bubbasaures> sda4 looks to be where it was
[08:33] <bubbasaures> or still is
[08:34] <francesco_> !list
[08:34] <bubbasaures> told you
[08:39] <parmendra> h
[08:42] <francesco_> !list
[08:43] <somsip> francesco_: it's not changed in the last 5 minutes...
[08:43] <francesco_> sn nuovo stavo capendo come funzione scusate
[08:44] <somsip> francesco_: well, there's no warez here so use !brain if you want to know how the bot works
[08:45] <OerHeks> francesco_, all torrents are here http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[08:45] <OerHeks> :-D
[08:46] <red_> quindi?
[08:46] <OerHeks> !it | red_
[08:47] <red_> Qui tutti che vanno e vengono...
[08:48] <francesco_> xdccc send #15
[08:48] <red_> che cazzo
[08:48] <red_> fuck
[08:49] <red_> esattamente di che si parla in questa room??
[08:49] <red_> di silent hill 4?
[08:49] <red_> ahahahhh :)
[08:49] <red_> dai no sul serio...
[08:49] <red_> che si fa?
[08:49] <somsip> red_: english only please, or leave
[08:49] <red_> glad to know
[08:50] <red_> so what we do here?
[08:50] <skeithc> Talk to Chat AIs?
[08:50] <OerHeks> red_, did you read the topic?
[08:50] <skeithc> Oh wait. wrong channel. Sorry. D:
[08:50] <somsip> red_: ask for and provide support on ubuntu
[08:50] <somsip> !topic | red_
[08:51] <quackgyver> Man, every single time I decide to give Ubuntu another chance, it somehow manages to break during some vital initial step despite my following the instructions to exact detail.
[08:51] <quackgyver> I just installed the latest LTS ver, updated, rebooted then started following the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:52] <quackgyver> but upon running "apache2" I get
[08:52] <quackgyver> AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[08:52] <quackgyver> Invalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}
[08:52] <quackgyver> I've googled it but still can't get it to work.
[08:52] <nusr> i think my libreoffice is corrupted. i can open csv in python and r but i can't open it manually to inspect. the data formatting has chinese characters
[08:54] <somsip> quackgyver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452042/why-is-my-apache-not-working-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-14-04
[08:55] <OerHeks> nusr, it is an openoffice/libroffice calc file, do there are controlcharacters in it.
[08:55] <nusr> i tried uninstalling and reinstalling but i'm still getting chinese character of the data all in one line
[08:56] <nusr> 0erHeks: where can i find it? i did whereis LibreCalc and just got LibreCalc back
[08:56] <ayushgp> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:56] <ayushgp> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:56] <ayushgp> I'm getting this error while using sudo apt-get install. How do I fix it?
[08:56] <lukblack> !list
[08:56] <somsip> ayushgp: close any other program that's also using apt-get or software centre
[08:56] <onla> im trying to run this one script on startup but it is not getting run when I put it in /etc/init.d/ and changed it to +x. The script has lines #! /bin/sh and xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[08:57] <nusr> 0erHeks: ok i figured it out..somehow it got switched to unicode
[08:57] <bubbasaures> ayushgp, software or synaptic open, or did you stop any install while running?
[08:57] <OerHeks> nusr, ah nice
[08:57] <ayushgp> many thanks somsip! It worked!
[08:57] <somsip> onla: should be in rc.local possibly?
[08:57] <nusr> OerHeks: thanks
[08:57] <bubbasaures> ayushgp, Ubuntu software center
[08:58] <ablest1980> hi
[08:58] <ablest1980> i have a question
[08:58] <quackgyver> somsip: Wow, I can't believe I didn't find that page when I spent all of yesterday troubleshooting
[08:58] <ablest1980> whats best ebook reader for ubuntu?
[08:58] <quackgyver> One question though
[08:58] <ablest1980> the adobe reader of ubuntu
[08:58] <quackgyver> it says to edit that page
[08:58] <quackgyver> does it mean that you should edit the /var/www/html string?
[08:58] <bubbasaures> ablest1980, best is an opinion
[08:58] <quackgyver> or just open and close it
[08:58] <somsip> quackgyver: edit it
[08:58] <ablest1980> most popular then
[08:59] <somsip> !best | ablest1980
[08:59] <ablest1980> !best
[08:59] <nusr> anyone know when ubuntu phone is coming out?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> somsip, sadly, that factoid is no more
[08:59] <cfhowlett> nusr, "when it's done"
[08:59] <ablest1980> ubuntu phone coming?
[08:59] <somsip> !touch | nusr (try OMG Ububuntu site for news)
[08:59] <bubbasaures> !touch | nusr
[08:59] <quackgyver> somsip: The file or the string? :p
[08:59] <somsip> cfhowlett: ubottu tells me this...oh well, thanks
[08:59] <quackgyver> I mean, should I just open and save it
[08:59] <quackgyver> or change the string
[09:00] <ablest1980> !best | ablest1980
[09:00] <somsip> quackgyver: edit the file and change what it says on that page
[09:00] <bubbasaures> ablest1980, we don't do best here, however you can address a reader.
[09:00] <ablest1980> np ty
[09:00] <quackgyver> somsip: It just says "So edit to modify this file" and then to restart Apache, but it doesn't actually state whether I should edit anything within the file or to just open, save and close it.
[09:01] <bubbasaures> people will help is all
[09:01] <quackgyver> I'm new to Linux so I need to know what to do specifically
[09:01] <somsip> bubbasaures: actually...as cfhowlett says, that factoid and all related ones have been deleted. So maybe the ops are up for discussions in here. I'd hope not though, so I'd still recommend #ubuntu-offtopic for it
[09:02] <bubbasaures> somsip, That's fine just trying to be supportive under the sytem in place. ;)
[09:02] <onla> somsip: ok I try there. I will see when I boot next time, i don't bother to boot now )
[09:02] <somsip> bubbasaures: I can see - just trying to figure out what we should do now the factoid has changed. I guess I'll just ignore best/poll requests as it's not clear what the ops expect now
[09:03] <bubbasaures> somsip, I generally do sounds lika plan.
[09:04] <lukblack> DoCToR46.bLaCkDr4g0n.NeT
[09:04] <bubbasaures> mmmm spam where that toast
[09:04] <somsip> bubbasaures: discussions that start with that question usually descent into a miasma of OT followup questions...each to their own though, until the ops shout at us. Anyway...OT myself here
[09:05] <bubbasaures> yeah it does. ;)
[09:07] <quackgyver> Ok so I did what http://askubuntu.com/questions/452042/why-is-my-apache-not-working-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-14-04 suggested and it still doesn't work
[09:07] <quackgyver> I'm still getting:
[09:07] <quackgyver> AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[09:07] <quackgyver> Invalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}
[09:09] <somsip> quackgyver: how are you 'running' apache2?
[09:09] <quackgyver> somsip: I don't know. I don't know anything about Linux. All I know is that I installed Ubuntu and followed the instructions specified on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:10] <quackgyver> and when I get to "Installing Apache 2" I get that error
[09:10] <somsip> quackgyver: you've said you get the error message when you run apache2. What do you do immediately prior to getting that error message?
[09:10] <quackgyver> somsip: Oh. I type "apache2" into the console.
[09:11] <somsip> quackgyver: don't. Just do sudo service apache2 start (or restart). No idea why apache2 is on it's own on that wiki as a suggested command.
[09:12] <quackgyver> somsip: Okay, that worked. But it says "Installing Apache2", and you are talking about merely starting it. Does this mean that apache2 is already installed at this point?
[09:12] <somsip> quackgyver: and if the guide is not clear, sudo apt-get install apache2 will install it
[09:12] <somsip> quackgyver: you tell me - it's your computer.
[09:13] <quackgyver> somsip: Well, I just followed the instructions as specified on that page.
[09:13] <quackgyver> So I don't know.
[09:14] <somsip> quackgyver: if you install lamp-server^ in the second step, then it should be installed. Either way, is it doing what you want now?
[09:14] <quackgyver> somsip: Ah, that explains it. Then I guess it's already installed
[09:14] <quackgyver> And yeah it started up properly now
[09:14] <quackgyver> No errors
[09:15] <quackgyver> Someone should fix that Wiki page I think :/
[09:15] <somsip> quackgyver: you were not reading the guide. the section 'Installing Apache 2' starts with "To only install the apache2 webserver..." and as you had already installed the full lamp stack, you did not need to do this
[09:16] <ubuntu586> Hi all, I have a weird, obscure problem. Apparently, Korean input (ibus-hangul) works on certain locales but not others, at least on my computer (vanilla install of Ubuntu 14.10).
[09:16] <ubuntu586> I've tested this on two different computers (both with fresh installs), so this seems to be reproducible.
[09:17] <quackgyver> Well, I think clarifications would be in place. Pages like these can be overwhelming for newbies since it requires you to simultaneously interpret a lot of new facts and terms.
[09:17] <quackgyver> But yeah you are right.
[09:18] <ubuntu586> On the other hand, some other computers that I have access to, which (probably) were upgraded from 14.04 don't seem to have this problem.
[09:19] <ubuntu586> Any ideas?
[09:20] <somsip> ubuntu586: with it being weird and obscure, you may find reporting a bug gets you a response. Less likely there is someone in here with the same use case as you
[09:20] <ubuntu586> somsip: Yeah, I figured.... Well, I figured there's no harm in trying.
[09:20] <somsip> ubuntu586: indeed
[09:22] <weblydz> I am not Charlie, I am Muslim Against Killings --> http://adf.ly/wDL4i
[09:22] <ikonia> weblydz: please don't post that sort of content
[09:22] <ikonia> that is not this channels goal
[09:22] <weblydz> ok
[09:23] <cfhowlett> webbyz, that's nice but off topic here
[09:23] <ikonia> !topic | weblydz
[09:23] <weblydz> sorry
[09:24] <blueingress> Hi,I have problem...when I execute the command "scp file1 user1@host2".... what happen? where will the file go in host2?
[09:24] <EriC^^> blueingress: to your home dir
[09:24] <ikonia> blueingress: it won't
[09:24] <ikonia> you need a : on the end
[09:24] <ikonia> or it will just go to a file called user1@host2 on your local machine
[09:24] <EriC^^> blueingress: you can specify by user@host:/path/to/destination
[09:25] <blueingress> ikonia EriC^^, SO nothing happened?
[09:25] <EriC^^> blueingress: if you didn't have a : at the end no
[09:25] <EriC^^> ( i dont think so, did you get any error? )
[09:26] <blueingress> EriC^^, Thanks, I just afraid that the file is important, that it has been placed to somewhere I don't know.
[09:26] <blueingress> EriC^^, no error...
[09:26] <EriC^^> blueingress: i think it was copied to your local pc then as user1@host2
[09:26] <EriC^^> in the dir you were in
[09:27] <blueingress> EriC^^, ^-^ yes..
[09:27] <ikonia> because you missed :
[09:28] <blueingress> ikonia, :-) that is right.
[09:33] <Industrial> Hi.
[09:33] <Industrial> I have configured a different window manager then Unity. I now have Xmonad running.
[09:34] <Industrial> I would like to start 2 bash files when I log in from GDM
[09:34] <Industrial> How do i do that?
[09:34] <Industrial> I used to use .xinitrc with the startx command without GDM, but that was not on ubuntu, and I'd rather keep GDM now because.. easy..
[09:38] <stevenm> is there another way of accomplishing     echo hello | sudo tee /file    without it printing also to stdout?
[09:39] <Fuchs> stevenm: yes, don't be silly by using tee.   sudo sh -c "echo foo > file"
[09:39] <Fuchs> stevenm: or >>, note that > will overwrite the contents of file.
[09:41] <stevenm> Fuchs, yeah I've seen that method used on the suse build service thing - I didn't think relaying on sh would be good though
[09:42] <Fuchs> a lot better than relying on tee
[09:42] <Fuchs> why do you think it's a bad idea to rely on something as basic as sh?
[09:42] <stevenm> well the original sh is deprecated - but i guess these days you don't know what it's pointed at
[09:43] <Fuchs> So?
[09:43] <Fuchs> if a shell misbehaves with something as simple as echo foo > bar, the distribution linking sh to such a misbehaving shell shouldn't exist in the first place.
[09:44] <Fuchs> it's standardized good enough for your use case, if the distribution breaks it, it's the distributions problem. Tee is a lot less likely to work than sh is.
[09:44] <stevenm> Fuchs, so lets say you're doing 2 lines at once     sudo sh -c "echo -e "line1\nline2" > /file"
[09:44] <stevenm> not only are you not sure if whatever sh is pointed at has -e in its version of echo - but you've had to quote inside quotes
[09:45] <stevenm> tbh i'd rather just have a silent tee
[09:45] <Fuchs> as said: it's standardized good enough for your use case, while you have exactly zero guarantee that the distribution offers tee in the standard configuration. So by going with your argumentation the tee solution is even worse.
[09:45] <stevenm> i guess I can silence tee anyway by just redirecting it's output
[09:46] <Fuchs> then use a different command, because that behaviour is exactly what tee is for
[09:46] <stevenm> Fuchs, using sh - would you put ' inside " or " inside ' or use the same?
[09:46] <ppf> is this an appropriate place for pulseaudio questions?
[09:46] <ppf> i'm frequently seeing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9744204/
[09:46] <stevenm> ppf, probably better #pulseaudio
[09:46] <Fuchs> ppf: there is #pulseaudio for specific ones, but ubuntu related: sure
[09:47] <Fuchs> stevenm: I'd probably do it per line just to make sure it works
[09:47] <stevenm> Fuchs, meh that's worse.. i've got things that make a desktop icon is one line (as a .desktop is just 6 lines)
[09:47] <stevenm> *in
[09:47] <Fuchs> stevenm: it depends on whether I know what the target distributions include. If I don't know that, tee is the very last thing I'd use, I'd only go with built-ins and standards such as sh then. Or maybe cat (which is something you could use, btw) which is also standardish enough, compared to tee
[09:48] <stevenm> ah so    echo meow | sudo cat /file     would work?
[09:49] <Fuchs> stevenm: missing a > after the cat
[09:50] <stevenm> yeah doesn't work
[09:50] <stevenm> shame though - although tbh that's alot more obvious to use than tee, it'd be in use in lots of "howto" pages if it did work
[09:50] <Fuchs> and I'd still go with sudo sh - c
[09:50] <Fuchs> -c, even
[09:51] <Fuchs> it's more standardized than tee is, so if you worry about not knowing what installed on the target system, it is more likely to work. You could use printf instead of echo, if you care about multilines, or just go with something that should work in sh
[09:52] <Fuchs> or go line by line, if you want it as failsafe as possible
[09:53] <stevenm> Fuchs, sudo sh -c 'echo "meow\nmeow" > /filedd'
[09:53] <stevenm> interestingly that doesn't require -e
[09:53] <stevenm> but still works
[09:53] <stevenm> oddly if you add in -e    then -e itself gets writtin in to the file
[09:53] <stevenm> weird
[09:54] <Fuchs> probably depends on the implementation of echo, I only have a zsh at hand to test
[09:54]  * FrankD yawns
[09:54]  * Fuchs fills coffee into the open FrankD
[09:54] <stevenm> Fuchs, could it be because \n is expanded before sending to sh ?
[09:55] <Fuchs> stevenm: should not with ' around the command, that should be interpreted by the shell executing it
[09:55] <Fuchs> stevenm: with ": yes. With ': shouldn't
[09:55] <Fuchs> bu some shells behave a bit odd
[09:55] <stevenm> hmm odd then
[09:56] <stevenm> i'll stick with tee I guess
[09:56] <Fuchs> then you could just redirect STDOUT to /dev/null. I personally think this is a tinkered workaround at best, but as I don't know your usecase ...
[10:06] <f3lix> Rather than editing Samba's main smb.conf file, can you refer to an external configuration file, or drop a configuration file at a specific location (possibly with a specific extension) to have it read alongside the main conf?
[10:06] <f3lix> (for the server)
[10:13] <f3lix> I mean, AFAICT the include statement belongs to a section… I'd like to include a file with settings in different sections, including [global]
[10:18] <gagalicious> : Sub-process returned an error code
[10:18] <gagalicious> how to see error log?
[10:19] <f3lix> dmesg | tail, or tail /var/log/kern.log
[10:19] <f3lix> usually
[10:19] <f3lix> depends on the process
[10:20] <gagalicious> how do i clear dmesg previous messages
[10:21] <f3lix> you can't. and there's no need. is it because you're looking for something specific? if so, grep for it, e.g. "dmesg | grep SOME_NAME"
[10:22] <f3lix> if you need to scroll text in a TTY, you can use Shift+PgUp
[10:22] <dionysus69> hey guys my nautilus hangs when I start a folder of any kind and takes 20 seconds or something to start, any ideas why ?
[10:22] <f3lix> dionysus69: could be a broken network mount?
[10:23] <f3lix> dionysus69: does "df" or "mount" in a terminal hang as well?
[10:23] <dionysus69> f3lix: when I start a program called files, without opening any specific network, just the home directory
[10:23] <dionysus69> f3lix: nope they dont hang
[10:24] <f3lix> dionysus69: well, if it's nautilus hanging, it may still be a broken mount even if you're not using it
[10:24] <dionysus69> where would that mount be ? how do I remove it ?
[10:24] <f3lix> dionysus69: oh, ok, well then it's probably not that. don't really know anything about nautilus per se, sorry :/
[10:24] <f3lix> dionysus69: well, since df doesn't hang, it's not that. just happened a lot to me, so it was worth a try ;)
[10:24] <dionysus69> f3lix: hmm ok thanks anyway :D
[10:25] <f3lix> :)
[10:29] <saleem> my dell e6500 laptop has lspci | grep VGA
[10:29] <saleem> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] (rev a1) , i installed nvidia-current package from precise repos but the driver does not work , how do i fix this issue?
[10:31] <saleem> i installed nvidia -current driver from synaptic because jockey failed to download it
[10:31] <cristian_c> Hello
[10:31] <f3lix> saleem: You might want to try one of the explicit version. In 14.10, -current installs v304. Check which ones you have available (apt-cache search nvidia). For instance, I have both 310 and 319 versions available
[10:31] <saleem> but the driver is not working for me
[10:31] <cristian_c> How can i browse in a mailing list archive via ubuntu?
[10:31] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:32] <saleem> f3lix, thanks i will give it a try
[10:32] <f3lix> saleem: And I think you should explicitly uninstall the one you have now (apt-get purge nvidia-current)
[10:32] <f3lix> np
[10:33] <saleem> f3lix, nvidia-current on precise install v304 for me through synaptic
[10:34] <f3lix> saleem:  Yup, here too. You can try nvidia-310 or nvidia-319 instead (the latter is a development version, so you should probably try -310 first)
[10:34] <f3lix> saleem: apt-get update && apt-get install -y nvidia-310 && apt-get purge nvidia-current
[10:34] <saleem> thanks i will try both one by one
[10:34] <ppf> the latest driver is 340, you could also try that one
[10:35] <f3lix> saleem: Don't forget to reboot — there are kernel modules compiled when you install. You did reboot after installing -current, right?
[10:35] <saleem> f3lix, yes once i have installed a driver i will reboot
[10:35] <f3lix> cool ;)
[10:53] <_root_> the new pentadactyl for FF 35 http://a.pomf.se/snnpfb.xpi
[10:53] <_root_> enjoy
[10:56] <sumikan> I'm using LXDE on ubuntu 14.04
[10:57] <sumikan> so, sometimes Logout message can't  be displayed from power button on right side. does anyone resolve this phenomenon?
[10:58] <gual> irc 127.0.0.1
[11:00] <sumikan> why not use the power button on right down side taskbar?
[11:01] <everyun> clear
[11:01] <everyun> test
[11:04] <sumikan> does anyone resolve it? has anyone see same situation?
[11:11] <[Arab]> 1706 members!
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:13] <OerHeks> hi BluesKaj
[11:13] <BluesKaj> hey OerHeks
[11:14] <mitt> Hi guys, maybe it's a little bit offtopic but is there an application that works like polkit but doesn't use systemd as dependency? thanks
[11:15] <ingsoc> how do you add bash completion for other commands.  I have a completion script for something else, how do i enable this in ubuntu ?
[11:18] <AndChat228864> Hi till which version wubi is fully functional?
[11:19] <Deepfriedice> AndChat228864: Why?
[11:19] <mitt> AndChat228864: Wubi is dead nah?
[11:19] <AndChat228864> I need that Ubuntu is to install inside win7
[11:20] <Deepfriedice> Wubi was killed off for a reason: AFAIK it never worked particularly well.
[11:20] <Deepfriedice> I'll check though.
[11:20] <AndChat228864> It worked before nah? I will download that version ok.tell me please
[11:21] <mitt> their official site redirecting me to ubuntu site
[11:22] <mitt> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/wubi/20130401/ try this
[11:22] <AndChat228864> Thanks man
[11:22] <OerHeks> AndChat228864, you can install with wubi on your win7, but it is not recommended for production
[11:22] <Deepfriedice> I'm looking, but in the mean time what do you need Wubi for?
[11:23] <mitt> yeah really, why not to take cd or usb
[11:23] <mitt> or vbox
[11:23] <Deepfriedice> According to Wikipedia, Ubuntu 12.04 was the last to support it.
[11:23] <AndChat228864> Man I know its not gud idea but I need it ok.in my PC USB is not working then how can I install without wubi? Now understood?
[11:24] <mitt> back then try the link
[11:25] <AndChat228864> Tried @mitt thanks
[11:25] <AndChat228864> Thanks all
[11:25] <Deepfriedice> Actually, I think I found a Wubi build for 13.04
[11:25] <Deepfriedice> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/wubi/current/
[11:25] <Deepfriedice> Again, what do you want this for?
[11:26] <breadmonster> How do I install GNOME on Ubuntu 14.04?
[11:26] <mitt> @Deepfriedence he said he doesn't have working usb or cd drives
[11:26] <breadmonster> From the software center, yeah?
[11:26] <mitt> @breadmonster the easiest way
[11:28] <breadmonster> mitt: And then what? restart or log out?
[11:28] <mitt> @breadmonster it's better to restart but not required
[11:30] <breadmonster> mitt: Perfect thanks.
[11:31] <mitt> breadmonster: you're welcome
[11:36] <peter_ctn> hi all some help pleasehttp://www.pastebin.ca/2905101 i cant upload street shots
[11:36] <spacepig2001> #tanglu
[11:36] <peter_ctn> screen
[11:38] <phre4k> peter_ctn: what?
[11:38] <svetlana> Wrong window.
[11:38] <svetlana> "screen" is a terminal command.
[11:38] <phre4k> ^ I think he just corrected himself
[11:46] <peter_ctn> any idea guys
[11:46] <mitt> peter_ctn: we need longer description
[11:47] <svetlana> It was just an educated guess.
[11:47] <svetlana> Er, wrong channel...
[11:48] <peter_ctn> mitt: can i email street shots?
[11:48] <peter_ctn> screen
[11:49] <Ben64> post it on imgur.com
[11:50] <mitt> peter_ctn: how is this related to
[11:50] <mitt> Ubuntu
[11:50] <svetlana> peter_ctn: It looks like we can't help without seeing picture. and you can't access it without paying for some sort of service from them.
[11:50] <svetlana> mitt: He has an Ubuntu server I think which fails to boot.
[11:51] <mitt> svetlana: heck, I didn't check the link
[11:52] <kamil_> guys, is it posssible to add vivid repos, using add-apt-repository, and then downgrade with ppa-purge (if something gets wrong?)
[11:53] <Ben64> no
[11:54] <kamil_> Ben64: thanks for info, could you explain me more, please? im just curious why its not possible?
[11:54] <OerHeks> kamil_, you cannot mix utopic and vivid repo's, try it and you'll see
[11:54] <Ben64> kamil_: you'll break everything
[11:55] <peter_ctn> mitt: http://imgur.com/5HAPTab,VmImDKS,BHK3IMH,BYDJk6c,vgZtqKe
[11:55] <svetlana> peter_ctn: the question here is, if the server does not boot now, they appear to refuse to do anything to it -- even simple things such as boot recovery mode -- without prior payment from you.
[11:56] <Ben64> sounds like a terrible host
[11:56] <kamil_> so please tell me, what is better: wait for intel driver updatefor utopic, and waiting for amd to fix fglrx (segfault on boot) or update to vivid and stick with open source drivers?
[11:57] <svetlana> peter_ctn: to me it looks like the networking service is not configured properly (image 2), and I need more logs in order to understand what to do about it.
[11:58] <OerHeks> Vivid is in alpha stage, so we do not recommend to upgrade yet.
[11:59] <OerHeks> kamil_, what is you rissue exactly? what ATI card gives troubles?
[11:59] <OerHeks> -r
[11:59] <kamil_> OerHeks: i got X.org segmentation fault on boot when using fglrx
[12:00] <ljunggren> kamil_: using fglrx from repositories or installed from amd website?
[12:00] <kamil_> OerHeks: heard that this bug is active since january 2013
[12:00] <kamil_> ljunggren: both
[12:00] <kamil_> ljunggren: tried repos (14.6), tried 14.9 and newest 14.12
[12:00] <mitt> kamil_: in Debian it's called FrankenDebian, I had such thing and it becomes really hard to maintain system, in Ubuntu I think it's even worse
[12:01] <ljunggren> kamil_: it was the same issie with 14.6 from repos?
[12:01] <kamil_> ljunggren: yes
[12:01] <kamil_> ljunggren: on trusty too, now i have utopic
[12:02] <kamil_> ljunggren: i just send xorg.0.log to bugzilla http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1129
[12:02] <kamil_> yes, thats my bug
[12:02] <OerHeks> kamil_, what ATI card?
[12:02] <kamil_> but i sa
[12:03] <mitt> kamil_: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian it's called Shiny New Stuff Syndrome
[12:03] <kamil_> OerHeks: i have intel hd 4000 + radeon hd 8570m
[12:03] <ljunggren> isnt intel hd 4000 much better for using with linux?
[12:03] <kamil_> mitt: yes, but this bug was first reported 2 years ago
[12:03] <kamil_> ljunggren: not really, battle.net is messed up with intel https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=49667
[12:04] <kamil_> ljunggren: i managed to configure radeon open source drivers with dri_prime
[12:05] <kamil_> but glmark shows that intel have 2 times more points than radeon (and should be vice versa)
[12:05] <mitt> kamil_: I don't think in new version it would be better
[12:06] <mitt> will be*
[12:07] <kamil_> mitt: :/ i still have hope that amd fix that bug
[12:08] <kamil_> btw. dontbrakedebian page is nice
[12:08] <ljunggren> graphics driver on linux has only brought pain for me
[12:16] <GrayShade> hello, i'm writing a daemon that will start under upstart. is it ok to detect upstart by looking for UPSTART_JOB in the environment?
[12:17] <phre4k> GrayShade: why not use an upstart script to start it? Then you know upstart's running
[12:18] <GrayShade> i.e. to keep things simple i'm planning to use "expect stop" for readiness notification, but i only want that to happen when running under upstart
[12:18] <GrayShade> phre4k: you mean setting an env variable or passing an argument from the upstart config?
[12:18] <phre4k> GrayShade: yes. Or *only* start via upstart
[12:19] <GrayShade> i see. but are there any caveats regarding UPSTART_JOB?
[12:20] <phre4k> GrayShade: /join #ubuntu-app-devel I think
[12:20] <GrayShade> right, thanks!
[12:20] <phre4k> GrayShade: sorry, I just use systemd and sysv :D
[12:21] <GrayShade> heh, me too :)
[12:22] <colombeen> ichannels
[12:22] <colombeen> !channels
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> !upstart | GrayShade maybe here
[12:23] <GrayShade> ubottu, lotuspsychje: thanks
[12:24] <GrayShade> colombeen, that is (:
[12:32] <kirtah> what's the point of the ubuntu installer's lvm option that just makes a giant root partition that fills the disk? why use lvm that way?
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | kirtah
[12:34] <quackgyver> How do I create a shortcut to a folder in Ubuntu=?
[12:34] <quackgyver> -=
[12:36] <RafaelK> hello folks
[12:36] <RafaelK> something is wrong on your server : http://91.189.92.200/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[12:37] <ikonia> RafaelK: what are you talking about ?
[12:37] <RafaelK> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[12:37] <phre4k> quackgyver: terminal: ln -s /path/to/destination [link name, optional]
[12:37] <Seveas> RafaelK: that's just a symlink loop (/ubuntu/ is a symlink to /)
[12:37] <phre4k> quackgyver: apart from that there might be a "create shortcut" option in your file manager. Which are you using?
[12:38] <RafaelK> i get Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main mysql-common all 5.5.38-0ubuntu0.14.04.1==> default:   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80]
[12:39] <quackgyver> phre4k: just the default one that comes with ubuntu lts
[12:39] <quackgyver> 64 bit
[12:41] <quackgyver> Ok, "Make Link" worked when I gave myself ownership of the parent folder
[12:41] <quackgyver> that's weird
[12:41] <rodrigograca31_> quackgyver:
[12:42] <RafaelK> i get error on apt-get install mysql…
[12:43] <RafaelK> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/libmysqlclient18_5.5.38-0ubuntu0.14.04.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]
[12:43] <rodrigograca31_> quackgyver: at least in Linux Mint if you hold ALT when draging and drop the item it shows "link here"
[12:43] <Sherlock_regus> Eric^^
[12:43] <phre4k> quackgyver: you need permissions to create files, yes.
[12:43] <quackgyver> rodrigograca31_: I'd use Mint in a heartbeat if it wasn't for the fact that it crashed to hell 10 minutes into using it for the first time :)
[12:43] <Sherlock_regus> The repair didnt work
[12:43] <RafaelK> in this folder on server is only 14.04.40
[12:43] <sacarlson> RafaelK: did you try sudo apt-get update
[12:43] <RafaelK> yes
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: what did you try?
[12:44] <quackgyver> Anyway thanks for all the help
[12:44] <Sherlock_regus> I was trying to boot into my windows 8 installed in ssd
[12:44] <rodrigograca31_> quackgyver: ... Yheaa linux has some quirks in some PCs/hardware,.....
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: you dualboot with ubuntu?
[12:45] <quackgyver> :3
[12:45] <Sherlock_regus> I accidntally dd my hard disk on which the boot file was present
[12:45] <Sherlock_regus> Ya i had a ubuntu lso
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: did you try an update-grub?
[12:45] <Sherlock_regus> Ya
[12:45] <Seveas> RafaelK: pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy libmysqlclient18
[12:45] <ikonia> 18 ?
[12:46] <ikonia> isn't it 16 ?
[12:46] <Sherlock_regus> Its my original win8
[12:46] <Sherlock_regus> :(
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: make your life easy and install ubuntu single on HD
[12:47] <Sherlock_regus> I hav installed ubuntu
[12:47] <Sherlock_regus> But i need word and ppt frequently
[12:47] <Sherlock_regus> So windows is much useful
[12:47] <Sherlock_regus> And cstrike also...
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: you can use microsoft documents from ubuntu aswell
[12:48] <Sherlock_regus> No i mean creating
[12:48] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, libreoffice creates all manner of windows documents.  research
[12:48] <binarydepth> office docuents you mean
[12:48] <Sherlock_regus> Ya
[12:48] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, and counterstrike is on steam/linux
[12:48] <binarydepth> documets*
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: there are microsoft online webapps for ubuntu aswell
[12:49] <Sherlock_regus> But they are online
[12:49] <Sherlock_regus> I just want to fix it
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: maybe it needs a fix from windows side
[12:50] <Sherlock_regus> I tried that
[12:50] <Sherlock_regus> But didnt work
[12:50] <Sherlock_regus> I installd a win8.1
[12:50] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, if windows can't fix windows ... not much ubuntu can do about it
[12:50] <binarydepth> yep
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: check the ##windows guys, they might know a bootrepair trick?
[12:51] <Sherlock_regus> But there should be some way out
[12:51] <binarydepth> go to eightforums.com
[12:51] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, that IS the way out.  ask ##windows ... they're the experts.
[12:52] <Sherlock_regus> I tried that they are just bunch of idiots
[12:52] <klew> anyone with experience of swapping to an nfs-share? taking daily backups of 300+GB swap is getting on my nerves
[12:52] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, or learn to use the equivalent - and abundant - linux tools
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: if your ubuntu is working and you did an update-grub think we cant do much more from our side
[12:53] <Sherlock_regus> Its easier to cut away the disease but its difficult to cure it...
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> !uefi > Sherlock_regus maybe read up here
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: windows is the desease  you need to cut :p
[12:54] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, windows does not co-exist peacefully with other OS's.  Complaints >>> Microsoft
[12:55] <binarydepth> Windows 8 was fine with linux hen I had it
[12:56] <binarydepth> I had a license from college and had to make some homework in Office
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> !nfs | klew maybe more info here
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, you might want to consider virtualbox for your windows or perhaps wine for MS Office
[12:57] <quackgyver> Has anyone tried running Ubuntu on an Intel NUC?
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> quackgyver: whats your issue exactly?
[12:58] <RafaelK> Seveas: i'm currently on building vagrant box, this box was working previously and i didn't any changes and now i get this errors
[12:58] <RafaelK> in puppet are no special version defined: also only the package names
[12:59] <quackgyver> lotuspsychje: I want a Linux Desktop computer for work but I'm not entirely sure that it won't cause problems since I've had issues with Ubuntu before, so I'm looking for an extremely cheap computer with enough processing power to allow me to do web development and multitask comfortably, so that I can in a worst case scenario discard it and get a Windows or
[12:59] <quackgyver> Mac if it doesn't work out.
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> quackgyver: i almost never have a machine that cant run ubuntu on it
[13:00] <matthias__> hello i have problems sending mails with the php mail-function. i can receive emails with my gmail address, but for example @gmx.net is not working for receiving them. i am sending the mails trough a .tk domain, i have owned. here is the mail.log file https://bpaste.net/show/6ebab75bcda4
[13:00] <quackgyver> lotuspsychje: well intel nuc is a special computer
[13:00] <quackgyver> so thats why im curious
[13:00] <quackgyver> it costs like... 1200 eur
[13:00] <quackgyver> er, 120*
[13:00] <klew> lotuspsychje: I was thinking more along the lines of performance implications, we've got 10GBit connections between VMs and NAS, so it should work rather well, curious if someone here had tried it though
[13:01] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, your use almost sounds like a poster child for chromebook
[13:02] <quackgyver> cfhowlett: Well, I want to use Linux specifically because I'm currently in a position where I'm forced to learn a lot of technologies that I previously haven't been wanting to, so I figured I might as well do it on Linux which I've also been putting off for the same reasons.
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> quackgyver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/245059/can-ubuntu-run-on-intels-nuc-devices
[13:02] <quackgyver> And I figured it'd be nice to run a local webserver on it as well.
[13:02] <du5tball> can dhclient lease several IPs on the same interface?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, www.dell.com/developer
[13:02] <quackgyver> cfhowlett: Aye, I've been looking at Dell.
[13:02] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, note: updated model to be released any day now
[13:02] <quackgyver> I was specifically curious if someone here has used Intel NUC.
[13:02] <quackgyver> and had any comments
[13:02] <quackgyver> but I guess not
[13:03] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, probably better off googling: linux + intel + nuc
[13:03] <quackgyver> true
[13:03] <quackgyver> I guess what I'm wondering the most is how fast and responsive the GUIs are
[13:03] <quackgyver> and how much you can multitask before it grinds to a halt
[13:04] <quackgyver> but ill try googling for an answer
[13:04] <tehgooch> Is there a way to enable more verbose logging to the system console on Ubuntu Server 12.04? We have a server stuck after showing the e1000 ethernet adapter. System activity lights are not blinking at all.
[13:04] <tehgooch> I can boot it into recovery though.
[13:05] <tehgooch> (I know 12.04 is old - it's a client)
[13:05] <cfhowlett> !server | tehgooch, ask the server channel
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> tehgooch: log what exactly?
[13:05] <tehgooch> Trying to divine why it's hanging there.
[13:06] <tehgooch> Nothing jumps out.
[13:06] <EriC^^> tehgooch: check dmesg maybe?
[13:06] <tehgooch> I'll go to the server channel
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> tehgooch: check the syslog
[13:06] <tehgooch> thanks though
[13:21] <rimdeker> Hey guys, I installed my root as btrfs and my grub broke, I'm trying to fix grub from a LiveUSB but it doesn't seem to work
[13:22] <rimdeker> when I mount the subvolume and do the bind mounts and call grub-install from there, then I end up in the grub console during booting
[13:22] <rimdeker> if I don't mount the subvolume directly and the drive instead
[13:23] <rimdeker> I get the following error even after binds working correct: grub-install: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[13:23] <lattera> is there a way to tell apt-get not to use IPv6?
[13:25] <teward> lattera: turn off v6, or possibly explicitly define the IP addresses for the servers in /etc/hosts (which is how I override the v6 side)
[13:27] <lattera> figured it out
[13:27] <lattera> apt-get -o Acquire::FoceIPv4=true install package1 package2 packageN
[13:28] <lattera> s/FoceIPv4/ForceIPv4/
[13:28] <timur> hi I installed on my MacBookPro Ubuntu 14.01, it's too  laggy. My system specs are quite high. I have 16 b ram 8 cores i8 2,7 and nvidia graphic card. What could be the reason any ideas?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !mac | timur   ubuntu on a mac is significantly less certain than on a non-OSX device
[13:32] <teaearlgraycold> Is font support required for ncurses to draw a vertical line? Because I get the character `
[13:40] <teaearlgraycold> smuxi: ah a bB brother?
[13:41] <smuxi> bB?
[13:42] <teaearlgraycold> plumblum: your vhost is @baconseed.org
[13:42] <teaearlgraycold> baconbits
[13:42] <plumblum> ah
[13:42] <plumblum> Now i'm following
[13:44] <sheer> is there a linux/ubuntu/programming channel for noobs?
[13:44] <Ben64> !alis | sheer
[13:45] <cfhowlett> sheer, fullcirclemagazine.org    has a several compilation issues devoted to python
[13:46] <pradeep> Hey..
[13:50] <kevinde> Hello, Everyday I take my hdd from work back to home and use it on my desktop pc here also now and then. but today I started my ubuntu up and it did not recognize my LAN NIC somehow
[13:51] <kevinde> basically my lan cable is plugged in but I only have lo interface when i do ifconfig
[13:51] <kevinde> Network manager is uninstalled, so configured with /etc/network/interfaces
[13:53] <OerHeks> kevinde, have you tried to reboot your router? helps sometimes with unexplainable issues
[13:54] <kevinde> I have network when I log on my windows machine so it must be something wrong with either the driver or configuration
[13:55] <fool> Hi folks.  Ubuntu can't connect to the internet through a wired connected (Modem->Router->PC) this morning, no settings changed.  Same link works with a Windows box.
[13:55] <fool> Sounds like I have the same issue as kevinde.
[13:55] <fool> If I log into the router's firmware interface, it also cannot detect an internet connection when it looks for firmware updates.
[13:56] <BluesKaj> kevinde, which ubuntu release?
[13:57] <kevinde> BluesKaj: Ubuntu 12.04
[13:58] <fool> I've got 14.04.  SpeedStream 5260 modem, Netgear WNR2000v1 router.
[13:58] <kevinde> ls /sys/class/net only shows the localhost interface too
[13:59] <ovrflw0x> when  i boot into ubuntu sometimes... the Desktop "background" shrinks and remaining area is taken by back stripes, how to fix this so that it doesn't happen again? i've external monitor turned on with Laptop's screen turned off.
[13:59] <ovrflw0x> black****
[13:59] <ovrflw0x> not "back" but "black"
[13:59] <ovrflw0x> ^^^^
[13:59] <BluesKaj> kevinde, check this out , resolv.conf gets over written, https://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/how-to-add-static-dns-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts/
[14:00] <Blinkiz> Hello. I have discovered that I have an older version of openssl installed on my ubuntu 14.04 server system. I have version 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 installed. In trusty-security it exist 1.0.1-1ubuntu2.8 but I have no option to install it. I have the deb line for ubuntu security on sources.list file so I do not know what is wrong here?
[14:01] <gary1> join /java-talk
[14:01] <cfhowlett> Blinkiz, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade        should get it
[14:01] <ikonia> Blinkiz: if you do a dist-upgrade it will pull in all pending updates
[14:01] <ovrflw0x> Blinkiz, what do you serve on your server?
[14:01] <joris> Hi. Is there a way to disable ipv6 upstream only?
[14:02] <jh5> Blinkiz: We also have openssl 1.0.1 whats wrong with it?
[14:02] <ikonia> joris: ipv6 is "on or off"
[14:02] <ovrflw0x> when  i boot into ubuntu sometimes... the Desktop "background" shrinks and remaining area is taken by black stripes, how to fix this so that it doesn't happen again? i've external monitor turned on with Laptop's screen turned off.
[14:03] <joris> ikonia: Will disabling ipv6 completely, prevent me from connecting to an ipv6 address if I only have ipv4 IPs ?
[14:03] <joris> ikonia: And vice versa?
[14:03] <ikonia> joris: it will stop you participating directly on an IPV6 network
[14:03] <ikonia> it will not stop you routing to IPV6 networks
[14:03] <joris> TYVM
[14:04] <joris> The use case here is that I'm trying to connect to a service whose ipv6 connectivity is unreliable
[14:04] <joris> I could put their ipv4 IP in my /etc/hosts, but those IPs could change over time
[14:05] <ikonia> why would putting entries in /etc/hosts make the connectivity better ?
[14:05] <joris> It would prevent their ipv6 address from being accessed
[14:05] <joris> By me
[14:05] <ikonia> ?
[14:05] <ikonia> it wouldn't prevent anything
[14:05] <joris> I would only put their IPv4 addresses in my /etc/hosts
[14:05] <ikonia> it would just map a hostname to an IP
[14:06] <joris> Meaning, their hostname would always be accessed by me over ipv4
[14:06] <Blinkiz> cfhowlett, ikonia, apt-get dist-upgrade does not show this new version. Doing apt-cache show openssl with version 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2
[14:06] <joris> Instead of their unreliable ipv6 addresses
[14:06] <ikonia> joris: can't you do that via the dns ?
[14:06] <joris> ikonia: Perhaps, currently I don't run a dns
[14:06] <ikonia> Blinkiz: apt-cache policy openssl
[14:06] <ikonia> joris: you don't need to run dns - the public internet is dns
[14:06] <ikonia> joris: how are you trying to currently resolve IP -> hostname
[14:07] <joris> you mean hostname -> ip ?
[14:07] <ikonia> sure
[14:07] <Blinkiz> ikonia, there I can see it. It says "Installed: 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.8". What?
[14:07] <joris> This is a standard Ubuntu LTS box with nginx and PHP. Not sure how that does outgoing lookups.
[14:07] <ikonia> Blinkiz: why do you think its not installed
[14:07] <ikonia> joris: it uses dns - so if you lookup the site/server you want to use it will present whatever that company wants you to use
[14:08] <joris> I prefer to keep looking up their IPs, as they have several, but prevent traffic from going to their ipv6 addresses
[14:08] <Blinkiz> ikonia, TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV is not working which is introduced in -1ubuntu2.8 package
[14:08] <joris> Their hostname now resolves to several IPv4 and IPv6 addresses
[14:08] <ikonia> Blinkiz: dpkg -l | grep openssl
[14:08] <ikonia> joris: ok, so they have have round robin dns  ?
[14:08] <joris> I want my web app to only pick the ipv4 ones
[14:08] <joris> Yeah, would seem so
[14:08] <Blinkiz> ikonia, says 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.8
[14:08] <Blinkiz> So I have 1ubuntu2.8?
[14:08] <ikonia> Blinkiz: you have that version
[14:09] <Blinkiz> ikonia, Why is apt-cache show giving me Version: 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2?
[14:09] <ikonia> Blinkiz: please show me in a pastebin the output of the following commands
[14:09] <user_> hello
[14:09] <ikonia> Blinkiz: apt-cache policy openssl
[14:09] <ikonia> Blinkiz: and dpkg -l | rep openssl
[14:09] <ikonia> grep
[14:11] <user_> can someone tell me which ubuntu version is suitable for creating LFS
[14:11] <ikonia> user_: version of what ?
[14:11] <Blinkiz> ikonia, sure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9747689/
[14:11] <user_> ubuntu
[14:11] <ikonia> user_: any version
[14:12] <Blinkiz> ikonia, I must be confused because of the two results for apt-cache show...
[14:12] <user_> @ikonia does that mean even non stable version ?
[14:12] <Blinkiz> ikonia, I did not know about the apt-cache policy command, nice line :)
[14:13] <ikonia> user_: yes, but you would be VERY foolish to use an unstable platform to build a toolchain for a compile project
[14:13] <ikonia> Blinkiz: so looking at that output, I can see you are using 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.8
[14:13] <Blinkiz> ikonia, yes, me two, thanks for the help :)
[14:21] <ayushgp> Reading package lists... Error!
[14:21] <ayushgp> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[14:21] <ayushgp> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_thefanclub_ubuntu-after-install_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_i18n_Translation-en
[14:21] <ayushgp> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[14:21] <ayushgp> i'm getting this error
[14:22] <ayushgp> any ideas on how to fix this?
[14:22] <CtrlAltDelicious> Sup everyone?
[14:23] <dhurba> yu
[14:23] <dhurba> hey
[14:23] <daftykins> CtrlAltDelicious: hello. do you have a support question?
[14:23] <dhurba> who is there??
[14:23] <daftykins> dhurba: only us ghosts
[14:23] <cfhowlett> dhurba, ask your ubuntu questions
[14:24] <CtrlAltDelicious> daftykins: Hmmm, well, thats not why I stopped by, however; if youre itching to answer a question I suppose I could think of something Ive wondered.
[14:24] <daftykins> CtrlAltDelicious: as long as it's ubuntu support related. otherwise general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:24] <OerHeks> ayushgp, try to update first and try again? if that does not solve, contact the ppa maintainer, as we do not support ppa's
[14:25] <Guest67852> hi, how can i disable sync to vblank in ubuntu? Runing liveUSB have much more performance due to vsync is off. but as soon as installed vsync becomes defualt on?
[14:25] <CtrlAltDelicious> Lets see...  I have a Windows workstation (I know - boo) for work, and Im running CYGWIN to manage remote Linux servers. When I do a tcpdump via SSH, is there a way to fork it so it keeps capturing if I close my CLI?
[14:25] <OerHeks> Guest67852, disable it after install?
[14:25] <daftykins> CtrlAltDelicious: run it via screen
[14:26] <Guest67852> OerHeks: Yeah that was my question :) how to disable it?
[14:27] <Guest67852> OerHeks: Using free drivers
[14:27] <OerHeks> Guest67852, how did you see vsync was off in liveUSB?
[14:27] <daftykins> Guest67852: so you want to have a nice tearing desktop instead? mmhmm.
[14:28] <OerHeks> installing prop drivers would give the option, at least with Nvidia
[14:28] <Guest67852> OerHeks: well the screen is tearing. daftykins yes because using vsync it gets really slow , i would rather have it tearing and responsive
[14:28] <daftykins> Guest67852: sounds like you just haven't got an appropriate driver installed for your hardware.
[14:29] <daftykins> what graphics setup?
[14:29] <RaMcHiP>  #windows-server
[14:29] <Guest67852> daftykins: laptop with amd e-450. running great performance+tearing in liveUSB. the graphics is radeon 6320
[14:29] <daftykins> Guest67852: install fglrx?
[14:29] <OerHeks> RaMcHiP, yes, no, wrong channel
[14:30] <Guest67852> daftykins: usually the problems gets worse with fglrx. i really want to use open source drivers
[14:30] <Guest67852> Isnt there a easy way to just disable vsync with open source drivers?
[14:32] <daftykins> what version are you on?
[14:32] <daftykins> repo fglrx or AMD website download fglrx?
[14:33] <Guest67852> daftykins: repo
[14:33] <daftykins> Guest67852: ubuntu official? probably ancient then
[14:34] <daftykins> i don't have a clue on vsync with radeon, probably you have to create a xorg.conf and disable it through a manual option somehow... but i still say this is the wrong way to go about it. vsync isn't tied to performance in this way, if you're on an LCD @ 60Hz you'd get 60fps if performance is good enough
[14:35] <Guest67852> daftykins: i know its good enough thats not the problem, the problem is everything gets sorta delayed and clunky
[14:36] <Guest67852> isnt ubuntu still using compiz daftykins _
[14:36] <daftykins> yes unity uses all the 3D gubbins
[14:36] <Guest67852> maybe i can just install compiz control and disable it there
[14:36] <daftykins> well, i would imagine a quick google would get the answer on this one
[14:36] <daftykins> e.g. "ubuntu 14.10 radeon vsync"
[14:36] <Guest67852> daftykins: yeah im not it
[14:37] <daftykins> huh?
[14:37] <Guest67852> daftykins: Yes i will do that.
[14:37] <daftykins> or install a newer fglrx, that should be a valid approach too
[14:37] <Guest67852> daftykins: Yeah im ON it. lol
[14:38] <daftykins> aaah.
[14:38] <Guest67852> daftykins: ubuntu always breaks one way or another when using fglrx for me :)
[14:38] <daftykins> welcome to Linux with AMD.
[14:38] <Guest67852> daftykins: haha yes i know thank you. sad really
[14:38] <daftykins> you could always run xubuntu :)
[14:40] <Anuttymous> hey, having trouble with Ubuntu 14.10 in that I have no mouse cursor. medion akoya laptop, running Ubuntu from USB, not installed on the laptop
[14:41] <Anuttymous> xinput list indicates that I don't have a mouse or touchpad, or at least doesn't list anything
[14:45] <Anuttymous> could anybody help?
[14:45] <reisio> Anuttymous: sure
[14:45] <deepSnit> go ahead
[14:46] <Anuttymous> 14.10 on medion akoya laptop, booting from USB, I'm not getting a mouse cursor
[14:46] <Anuttymous> xinput list doesn't list a mouse or touchpad
[14:46] <Guest67852> daftykins: yup there vsync is disabled by default. are you running xubuntu?
[14:46] <daftykins> on an old system, yes
[14:47] <Guest67852> daftykins: ottherwise unity on main?
[14:47] <daftykins> no i don't run desktop Linux
[14:47] <daftykins> but don't tell anyone...
[14:47] <Guest67852> daftykins: neither do i...sshhhh
[14:47] <OerHeks> Anuttymous, you were here yesterday too? i found this, see the last post, maybe it applies to you too >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233632&page=2
[14:49] <byte-smasher> is it normal for files to chown to whoever last edited them?
[14:49] <Anuttymous> that doesn't seem to help
[14:51] <shadow1911>  
[14:52] <shadow1911> I have created a horror game with Blender and Unity Pro and would like to add it to the Ubuntu store (For Free) and would like to know how.
[14:52] <shadow1911> Do I have to get an Ubuntu license?
[14:53] <dakira> shadow1911: no
[14:53] <dakira> shadow1911: check out this site: http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/publish/
[14:53] <shadow1911> Thank you
[14:55] <daftykins> Anuttymous: what did you run? just the modprobe?
[14:55] <daftykins> Anuttymous: you'll probably need to restart X in the live session, since you can't reboot. press ctrl+alt+F1, then run "sudo service lightdm restart"
[14:56] <reisio> Anuttymous: did the mouse work from the install media?
[14:56] <Anuttymous> the mouse had only worked from Windows so far
[14:57] <reisio> Anuttymous: what about the install media?
[14:57] <daftykins> the user is in a live session right now afaiui
[14:58] <reisio> being able to answer a simple question is going to come in handy :)
[14:59] <Anuttymous> the modprobe and light restart didn't seem to work
[15:00] <reisio> let me know if you ever answer my question :)
[15:00] <OerHeks> maybe that last part, updates, should do the trick, you need to install ubuntu, and use tab to select etc
[15:01] <upp> hello, i get the error not enough free disk space, the upgrade needs a total of ... can any one help? i have ubuntu 14.04
[15:02] <k1l> upp: well free some space
[15:02] <jpds> upp: sudo apt-get autoclean
[15:02] <OerHeks> upp, try sudo apt-get autoremove # and try to remove some old kernels
[15:02] <reisio> upp: https://wiki.debian.org/FreeSpace
[15:02] <reisio> just buy more storage, you'll need it eventually
[15:03] <upp> i have tryed apt-get clean and autoclean and autoremove, but doesn't help
[15:03] <upp> i have enough storage
[15:03] <reisio> mmm, you just said you didn't, though :)
[15:03] <jpds> upp: Do you have enough inodes?
[15:04] <crital> Hey everyone, im looking for someone to help me with a problem i have with my mouse
[15:04] <reisio> almost certainly a question of semantics
[15:04] <reisio> crital: well, you might find one here
[15:04] <upp> only here /dev/sda1 236M  159M   66M  71% /boot
[15:04] <crital> My mouse feels much more smoother in windows than it does on Ubuntu, any one have a fix ?
[15:05] <upp> jpds: my /boot partition is to smal
[15:05] <k1l> upp: so you got a seperated /boot that is too full. so remove old kernel packages
[15:05] <jpds> upp: Yeah, that'd do it.
[15:05] <reisio> crital: smoother?
[15:06] <crital> reisio: Yes, the cursor in Ubuntu feels laggy/not as accurate as it does in windows
[15:06] <lattera> looks like the systray icon for pidgin is missing
[15:06] <lattera> anyone know how I can get it to show up?
[15:06] <Anuttymous> I can't seem to install 14.10, it's just stopping at the preparing to install with the continue and back buttons greyed out
[15:06] <Guest67852> crital: perhaps this is another issue with vsync?
[15:06] <reisio> crital: is it a touchpad?
[15:07] <Guest67852> Anuttymous: how long have you waited for it?
[15:07] <crital> I havent thought of that guest, i do have a 120hz screen. Maybe im not running ubuntu in 120hz ?
[15:08] <Malcorox> morning
[15:08] <crital> Not a touchpad
[15:08] <Guest67852> crital: it could be so, check glxgears for me?
[15:08] <Anuttymous> okay, never mind, it was just taking a moment.
[15:08] <Guest67852> just to see how many fps you get
[15:08] <reisio> 120hz? Isn't that odd?
[15:08] <crital> How do i do this ?
[15:08] <Guest67852> crital: in terminal : glxgears
[15:09] <Guest67852> you can also check amongst screen resolution to see if it identify your screen properly.. there you see if its 60hz or 120hz
[15:09] <k1l> Guest67852: glxgears is not a benchmark. its more a "it works" thingy
[15:09] <Guest67852> k1l: exactly, thats why i suggested it
[15:09] <crital> all i see is gears spinning
[15:09] <crital> 60 fps
[15:10] <topdownjimmy> What does it mean when I see a repeated string of @^@^@^@^@^ in my kern.log and syslog?
[15:10] <topdownjimmy> My computer became unresponsive, and on reboot I noticed those lines at the end of the logs before the system freeze.
[15:10] <crital> Guest67852: How do i set it to 120hz ?
[15:11] <reisio> topdownjimmy: it's unreasonable to expect an unstable system to log properly, wouldn't you say? :)
[15:12] <topdownjimmy> reisio: I guess, I was just hoping those characters indicated something specific.
[15:12] <sheer> sheer
[15:12] <sheer> oops
[15:13]  * reisio shrugs
[15:13] <Guest67852> crital: well, is it recently installed?
[15:14] <crital> I've had this Monitor for a long time but i recently installed Ubuntu
[15:17] <Duality> hey all
[15:17] <reisio> hey
[15:18] <Guest67852> crital: well, i gotta go but try google 120hz ubuntu 14.10.
[15:18] <Duality> i have a network device connected to my laptop (wired network) and wired settings set to shared to other computers. how can i find out what ip my laptop gave the device ?
[15:18] <Duality> nmap doesn't show my anything though
[15:18] <Guest67852> crital: perhaps you need to install propritary drivers but i doubt thats the only solution.
[15:18] <daftykins> Duality: you're running a DHCP server? check the logs
[15:19] <Duality> daftykins: which one ?
[15:19] <Duality> i am not running a dhcp server
[15:19] <daftykins> then why do you believe your laptop gave this device an IP?
[15:20] <Duality> because if i connect my pi this way it give my pi an ip address and shows up on nmap, just wondering why this device doesn't show up
[15:21] <imbezol> Duality: try arp -na on the laptop
[15:22] <imbezol> Duality: if that doesn't work use nmap to ping the whole subnet
[15:22] <daftykins> i would hope that's already been the approach. sudo nmap -sP 192.168.0.1-254 for example - but that's a waste of effort if the IP is being given out by the laptop
[15:23] <daftykins> or maybe it's APIPA? 169. addresses
[15:23] <Duality> imbezol: cool shows alot of eth0 ip's all incomplete
[15:24] <imbezol> Duality: you normally connect your laptop with wireless?
[15:24] <Duality> pinging the whole subnet shows only my ip
[15:25] <daftykins> explain again how your devices are connected?
[15:25] <onemansubmarine> hi folks, can I ask a question regarding thunderbird in this channel?
[15:25] <daftykins> a mozilla or thunderbird channel would probably be better
[15:25] <compdoc> I think you just did
[15:25] <Duality> through a cat5 cable on my ethernet card
[15:25] <daftykins> !alis
[15:26] <daftykins> Duality: so you're on a system wired into your router and the Pi is too?
[15:26] <Duality> no
[15:26] <imbezol> how does the laptop get internet? wireless?
[15:26] <Duality> there is no router my network device is directly connected to my laptop
[15:26] <Duality> imbezol: yea wireless
[15:27] <daftykins> 'network device' o0
[15:27] <imbezol> so then you share that over your ethernet port?
[15:27] <daftykins> you mean a switch? :P
[15:27] <Duality> daftykins: no a ipc beckboard sc12
[15:28] <Duality> it's a mini computer with ftp http stack and everything
[15:28] <rlabad> #admin
[15:28] <daftykins> Duality: hmm, ok so it doesn't have any direct interaction? no input devices etc, solely power + LAN?
[15:29] <Negron> a5 Who like this game , Dexterity Ball 3D ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ELS9t3jd8k
[15:29] <backbox> hey bitches
[15:29] <Duality> daftykins: yea
[15:29] <cfhowlett> backbox, stop now.
[15:29] <backbox> lol
[15:29] <backbox> where you at
[15:30] <cfhowlett> backbox, ask your ubuntu question
[15:30] <daftykins> Duality: so either network manager's sharing setup is set wrong, or it hasn't started up properly i would guess
[15:31] <daftykins> you can't bridge your wireless i would think
[15:31] <Duality> daftykins: maybe i should try a different laptop too
[15:31] <Duality> i don't want to bridge wireless
[15:32] <Duality> i just want to telnet to the beckboard, which should be possible. it boots (cause the boot led burns) so i assume that the device is booted. last time i could just telnet it :)
[15:32] <daftykins> so you don't want the device to have connectivity online, just direct with the laptop
[15:32] <Duality> yea
[15:32] <Duality> shared to other computers works for that
[15:32] <daftykins> alright well you either need to run a DHCP server, or find out if it runs a static IP
[15:33] <daftykins> what IP does eth0 have right now?
[15:33] <Abd_Allatif> Hello, How can I get AC adapter current wattage? becouse my laptop battery is charging slowly
[15:33] <Duality> 10.42.0.1
[15:34] <daftykins> sounds like a network manager set IP
[15:34] <daftykins> Duality: i think you need to undo the network manager sharing then, and let it run wild. they'll probably both set to an APIPA address that way (169.254.x.x) then be contactable once you scan for the other
[15:36] <Duality> daftykins: the device works because if i connect to the local network i can ping it :)
[15:36] <daftykins> Duality: what do you mean local network?
[15:36] <hannachi> localhost
[15:36] <daftykins> no.
[15:36] <Duality> daftykins: like the network that supplies my wireless connection
[15:36] <hannachi> connection
[15:37] <Anuttymous> so, installed Ubuntu and tried modprobe to get the mouse working, but still doesn't seem to be, unless I missed something
[15:37] <daftykins> so cable out of laptop, into router? 0o
[15:37] <daftykins> sorry this isn't too clear to me
[15:37] <hannachi> tlaxkit
[15:37] <Duality> daftykins: yea
[15:37] <hannachi> view options
[15:37] <daftykins> hannachi: stop that please
[15:38] <hannachi> stop
[15:38] <hannachi> ping
[15:38] <daftykins> Duality: yeah ok but it's getting an IP via DHCP, so the router's DHCP server is providing it. there might not be one running on the laptop to give the device an IP, tell you what http://paste.ubuntu.com show me "ip a"
[15:38] <hannachi> client
[15:38] <DJones> hannachi: Do you have an Ubuntu support question for the channel?
[15:38] <daftykins> hannachi: either ask an ubuntu support question or leave, please.
[15:40] <hannachi> support
[15:40] <daftykins> definitely kick o'clock
[15:41] <cfhowlett> daftykins, agreed
[15:41] <Anuttymous> Ubuntu installed, but still no mouse cursor
[15:41] <daftykins> fully updated?
[15:41] <onemansubmarine> there is a ubuntu-mozillateam on freenode, for problems for thunderbird but I think its quite inactive
[15:42] <Anuttymous> Yeah
[15:42] <daftykins> onemansubmarine: did you try the alis bot for finding channels?
[15:42] <onemansubmarine> daftykins: yes I did that was the result
[15:42] <Anuttymous> xinput list still sees no mouse
[15:42] <Duality> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9749035/
[15:42] <onemansubmarine> daftykins: I also tried the channel #thunderbird
[15:43] <xangua> there is no thunderbird channel in freenode
[15:43] <Pici> Mozilla's main channels are on moznet, not freenode.
[15:44] <onemansubmarine> Pici: thx I will try there
[15:44] <spitzi> Using Ubuntu 14.04. Tried to set env var per instructions here but nothing worked, not even after opening a new terminal. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Persistent_environment_variables
[15:45] <daftykins> Duality: nah you don't scan your wifi subnet then, you scan this 10.0.3.2-.254
[15:45] <Anuttymous> sudo modprobe -r psmouse has no feedback, so I don't know if it's done what it's meant to do
[15:46] <daftykins> Anuttymous: easy, "lsmod | grep -i mouse"
[15:46] <Anuttymous> invokes nothing
[15:47] <daftykins> Anuttymous: which is a good sign since it means no module with 'mouse' in the name is loaded
[15:47] <daftykins> whereas once you "sudo modprobe psmouse" again, it should show up
[15:48] <Melio> the software center shows GoLang programming language at version 1.2, google obvously has later versions. should i ignore the package install and just get the tarball and install it
[15:48] <reisio> Melio: mmm
[15:49] <reisio> Melio: uh, did you have some reason to require a higher version?
[15:49] <Melio> I guess i'm thinking about this. i would rather have tarballs because programming languages typically shouldnt be updated automaticly.. aka python
[15:49] <reisio> if not, then why bother?
[15:49] <Melio> I don't have any reasons to request a higher version
[15:49] <EriC^^> Melio: you can set them not to update automatically
[15:49] <reisio> well, no, programming language interpreters are fine to update automatically
[15:49] <reisio> including python
[15:49] <Melio> i'm just curious as to how i should put this on my system
[15:49] <EriC^^> Melio: man apt_preferences or man apt-mark maybe
[15:49] <reisio> you should always use the package manager unless you have some reason not to
[15:49] <reisio> reasons are... well they're reasons
[15:49] <reisio> one should have a reason
[15:49] <Melio> reisio, the differnce between 2.x and 3.0 python are tremendious
[15:49] <reisio> that's... reasonable
[15:50] <reisio> Melio: yes, what of it?
[15:50] <Melio> you should never update python on fedora for instance
[15:50] <Melio> it screws up the entire tool base
[15:50] <reisio> you probably have python 2 and 3 installed right now, from your package manager
[15:50] <oddeyed> Melio: there are python2 and python3 packages in the software centre so you can pick
[15:50] <Melio> unless they fixed that
[15:50] <reisio> I doubt it was ever a problem
[15:50] <Melio> possibly not
[15:50] <Melio> it was my interpetation
[15:50] <Melio> i'm not a programmer
[15:50] <Anuttymous> I rebooted, but no mouse input
[15:50] <Melio> just trying to learn
[15:51] <Melio> Anuttymous, usb connected or laptp touchpad
[15:51] <Anuttymous> touchpad
[15:51] <Anuttymous> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233632&page=2
[15:51] <Melio> the touchpad drivers can be seen in dmesg
[15:51] <reisio> Anuttymous: did it work on the install media?
[15:51] <Melio> see if they are loading
[15:51] <Anuttymous> I was using the last comment
[15:51] <Anuttymous> it didn't
[15:52] <Melio> I have zero reason to not install the package from ubuntu software center
[15:52] <oddeyed> Melio: In general, stuff that is in the software repositories for ubuntu is more thoroughly tested and more likely to be stable on your system. If you want brand new features at the expense of stability/reliability, then you can compile from tarballs yourself or the software project might provide .deb files.
[15:52] <reisio> Melio: that should really give you your answer
[15:52] <Melio> yeah i agree
[15:52] <reisio> :D
[15:52] <Melio> but that's why i asked
[15:52] <reisio> asking is natural
[15:52] <Melio> i consider experts opinion better then my own
[15:52] <reisio> even if the answer seems obvious or annoying :)
[15:53] <hannachi> ping
[15:53] <Anuttymous> it said after a reboot and a apt-get update, but I'm not sure if that just "sudo apt-get update"
[15:54] <Melio> it's usually always sudo apt-get update
[15:54] <hannachi> source
[15:54] <Melio> Anuttymous, it's possible your newer kernel doesnt detect your touchpad
[15:54] <Anuttymous> How sure I fix that?
[15:54] <Melio> I personally disabled my touchpad
[15:54] <Melio> i use a usb mouse
[15:55] <oddeyed> On the grub menu you can switch kernels iirc?
[15:55] <Melio> i'm oldschool I need a mouse touchpads are uncomfortabl to me
[15:55] <reisio> what'd you say it was, 'akoya'?
[15:55] <reisio> oddeyed: yup
[15:55] <Anuttymous> I don't have a USB mouse, otherwise this wouldn't be too problematic :P
[15:55] <reisio> Melio: touchpads are awful, nothing to do with schools :)
[15:55] <Anuttymous> medion akoya
[15:55] <Melio> j keys are aweful too
[15:55] <reisio> although multitouch touchpads are slightly less awful
[15:55] <Melio> it was "neat" back in 1986
[15:56] <daftykins> Melio: we're more a support channel than a chat channel
[15:56] <reisio> good example of why neatness is overrated, heh
[15:57] <Anuttymous> What should I do? downgrade?
[15:57] <reisio> Anuttymous: you see this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233632&page=2&p=13194082#post13194082
[15:57] <Melio> Anuttymous, it's possible to try it may not solve your problem. but it seems likly
[15:58] <Anuttymous> I've tried that reisio
[15:58] <Melio> my asus laptop touchpad causes lockups, coincidently
[15:58] <Anuttymous>  version of Ubuntu would you suggest, if I dowWhaIngrade?
[15:59] <jhutchins> Anuttymous: apt-get update just updates the catalog.  apt-get upgrade actually installs new software.
[15:59] <Melio> having it enabled causes a serious lockup that requires a lid shut, reopen warm reboot of the power saving mode to recover
[15:59] <reisio> Anuttymous: howa bout http://www.evilcodingmonkey.com/2014/01/23/ubuntu-activate-multi-touch-on-elantech/ ?
[16:00] <reisio> other than that you might try a newer distro version, if there is one, and/or a newer Linux version
[16:00] <spitzi> Any advice on how to set an env var in Ubuntu?
[16:00] <spitzi> Persistently, that is.
[16:00] <oddeyed> spitzi: in your terminal? just edit .bashrc which runs on bash startup to set the variable or whatever.
[16:01] <Anuttymous> I'm not sure what newer version there is :P
[16:02] <oddeyed> spitzi: e.g. in my ~/.bashrc I have a line PATH="/home/user/bin:$PATH" export PATH
[16:02] <oddeyed> is that what you want?
[16:03] <spitzi> Ok, it works good enough, thanks. I do wonder if there's a way to set an env var for all shells, current and future.
[16:03] <Anuttymous> How do I scroll up in the terminal without a mouse?
[16:03] <reisio> Anuttymous: PGUP
[16:03] <reisio> or SHIFT+PGUP
[16:03] <Anuttymous> thanks :P
[16:03] <reisio> can be done a little better if you use the 'screen' application
[16:05] <oddeyed> spitzi: It does stay set in future - every time that you launch a new (non-login) shell, .bashrc is run and so the variable is set persistently.
[16:05] <spitzi> Does it apply also to e.g. tcsh?
[16:06] <reisio> tcsh would have its own config file
[16:07] <oddeyed> spitzi: what reisio said. but if you find out what tcsh does on startup then you can just edit that file.
[16:09] <spitzi> ok
[16:10] <spitzi> Thanks misters. Bye.
[16:10] <Anuttymous> none of it seems to work. What version of Ubuntu would you suggest I downgrade to?
[16:12] <Anuttymous> I'm going back to Windows :P
[16:13] <daftykins> Anuttymous: i would try 14.04.1, it's LTS anyway (long term support) so a better choice than 14.10
[16:13] <Anuttymous> I was on it
[16:14] <hoogeveen> is there a checksum for the 14.04.1 server amd64 iso LTS ?
[16:14] <Anuttymous> I tried 14.05, was suggested to try .10
[16:14] <Anuttymous> 14.04*
[16:14] <hoogeveen> i did a search on the website but came up with no hits
[16:15] <Anuttymous> I can get a normal mouse working, just not touchpad. managed to borrow a mouse for a few seconds
[16:15] <DJones> !md5 | hoogeveen
[16:15] <hoogeveen> i'm in solaris, but i'll look at those links, thanks.
[16:15] <DJones> hoogeveen: http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/MD5SUMS
[16:16] <DJones> hoogeveen: Thats the 14.04.1 md5 sums page
[16:16] <hoogeveen> cool, but why did i not find them on the website?
[16:16] <hoogeveen> is it a link i missed?
[16:16] <undecim> What's the easiest way to create a simple meta-package the installs several pieces of software?
[16:16] <DJones> hoogeveen: Not sure, they're normally shown in the alternative downloads pages
[16:16] <hoogeveen> ok, i didn't see it, but now i have the link, so thanks.
[16:16] <DJones> your welcome
[16:22] <snakester> anyone home?
[16:29] <undecim> What's the easiest way to create a simple meta-package that installs several pieces of software?
[16:31] <TomyWork> undecim equivs
[16:31] <TomyWork> by far :)
[16:31] <undecim> TomyWork, Sounds like exactly what I want :)
[16:32] <TomyWork> i have a strange problem where my mouse jumps to the right or to the bottom whenever i try to drag a window to the top, bottom or either side of the display
[16:32] <undecim> TomyWork, only when dragging?
[16:33] <TomyWork> yes
[16:33] <undecim> TomyWork, mouse or touchpad?
[16:33] <TomyWork> and only when dragging it to the edges
[16:33] <TomyWork> mouse
[16:33] <undecim> Have you tried the hardware on another machine?
[16:34] <undecim> TomyWork, doesn't sound like a hw problem, but never hurts to be sure
[16:34] <mesky> I recently discovered that even though clearing history, private browsing, using BleachBit, that there is a log of sites I have visited in webkitgtk/localStorage that I don't know how to clear.
[16:34] <TomyWork> ok this only affects my mouse, not the touchpad or touchpoint
[16:34] <TomyWork> it appeared after i played a bit with xset
[16:35] <TomyWork> specifically, i modified the translation matrix in order to get more speed
[16:35] <undecim> TomyWork, do you have any pointer-related stuff on the background? syndaemon or unclutter?
[16:36] <TomyWork> uh i dont know
[16:36] <TomyWork> but i think it's the xset...
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: cant you reset xset to defaults or something?
[16:36] <TomyWork> yup, it was the xset
[16:37] <TomyWork> xinput set-prop 11 143 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.500000
[16:37] <TomyWork> looks good, no?
[16:37] <devhost_> Anyone knowledgeable about TIPC? I've got three machines, all there address' have been set, but only two on this local switch can see eachother as neighbors. The other machine, in a server room is on a different Ethernet segment. I need a work around.
[16:37] <TomyWork> actually, let me back up a bit
[16:37] <TomyWork> how do i set mouse speed on kubuntu 14.04?
[16:38] <undecim> TomyWork, surely there's a KDE menu to configure the mouse...
[16:38] <TomyWork> undecim yes, it has acceleration but no speed
[16:39] <Pici> devhost_: Maybe #ubuntu-server or even perhaps ##networking could help you out.  Its definitely not a question that I've seen asked here before (I had to google what TIPC was even)
[16:39] <daftykins> Pici: me too :D
[16:39] <devhost_> Yeah, it's more a developer question.
[16:39] <undecim> TomyWork, Xorg.conf?
[16:39] <TomyWork> btw, this rotates all your mouse movements by 5 degrees: xinput set-prop 11 143 .996, -.0872, 0.000000, .0872, .996, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
[16:39] <TomyWork> :)
[16:39] <devhost_> Less ubuntu specific.
[16:40] <undecim> TomyWork, Oh, that's cool
[16:40] <undecim> TomyWork, now that all my students have Ubuntu on their computers, I'll have some fun with that
[16:40] <TomyWork> :D
[16:40] <undecim> TomyWork, How would I do 45?
[16:41] <TomyWork> go to www.wolframalpha.com, enter "45 degree rotation matrix"
[16:41] <TomyWork> type it out, first row, then 0, then 2nd row, then 0, then 0, 0, 1
[16:42] <undecim> TomyWork, sweet
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> you can also tweak mouse with gpointing-device-settings
[16:42] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje i dont have that
[16:42] <TomyWork> lemme install that
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: not sure it works for kubuntu
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> !info gpointing-device-settings
[16:43] <TomyWork> (gconftool-2:13334): GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
[16:43] <TomyWork> uhoh
[16:43] <mesky> Anybody?
[16:43] <undecim> TomyWork, reset is xinput set-prop 11 143 1, 0, 0, 0,1,0,0,0,1 ?
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: yeah, think its a bug on kubuntu
[16:43] <TomyWork> undecim  looks about right
[16:44] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje that showed me my devices but it had even less options
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> kk
[16:44] <undecim> "X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)"
[16:44] <wligtenberg> Hi, I have a weird issue when I want to install the 386 version of java on my 64 bit machine (required to run webex) http://pastebin.com/PhKVFP7L
[16:45] <TomyWork> undecim try adding spaces after each comma
[16:45] <justus_> Hello I have a question regarding networking on ubuntu.
[16:45] <undecim> TomyWork, Value in failed request:  0x8f (hex for 143)
[16:45] <wligtenberg> It gets stuck and I cannot get it fixed using sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:45] <undecim> TomyWork, I did put spaces
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> justus_: ask away
[16:45] <undecim> TomyWork, seems to be complaining about the 143 parameter
[16:45] <TomyWork> undecim oh, you need to look up the property numbers and all that
[16:45] <mesky> Oh, well...thanks anyway...
[16:45] <undecim> TomyWork, okay
[16:46] <justus_> I have a vpn connection running on one machine. Now i want to connect 3 other machines to route all their traffic through the machine with the vpn running...
[16:46] <daftykins> that's very ambitious
[16:46] <daftykins> justus_: probably more relevant in #ubuntu-server or ##networking i'd say though.
[16:47] <TomyWork> undecim "xinput list" for the id
[16:47] <TomyWork> then "xinput list-props <id>" for the property number
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | justus_ and some reading here
[16:47] <justus_> thank you for the recommendation @daftykins. I will ask the question over there.
[16:48] <justus_> thank you ubottu. The vpn is already set up.
[16:48] <daftykins> *tips hat*
[16:48] <undecim> TomyWork, I'm on 45 degree rotation now :)
[16:48] <undecim> Linux is amazing
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> sure is, specially with all the nice supporters here :p
[16:49] <TomyWork> undecim if you want to do this via ssh, be sure to set DISPLAY properly
[16:49] <TomyWork> usually to :0
[16:49] <undecim> TomyWork, yup
[16:50] <undecim> TomyWork, next time someone is playing games in class, I'll have a script that generates random matrices every 5-20 seconds or so.
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:50] <undecim> TomyWork, Come to think of it, I could make it trigger whenever the game process is in the background, and reset when it's closed
[16:51] <TomyWork> why random if you can vary them continuously from -10° to +10° :D
[16:51] <undecim> depends on the game, I think
[16:52] <TomyWork> do they have octave? :)
[16:52] <undecim> Something like a FPS I might just vary the speed and randomly invert axes
[16:52] <undecim> TomyWork, I can install octave.
[16:52] <TomyWork> hmm nah
[16:52] <undecim> TomyWork, I think python can handle all the calcs though
[16:53] <TomyWork> ok, if you want to exceed the shell :)
[16:53] <undecim> TomyWork, wouldn't octave exceed the shell?
[16:53] <undecim> TomyWork, or does octave have shell-like abilities that i'm unaware of?
[16:54] <TomyWork> you could pipe into it :D
[16:54] <TomyWork> but i see your point
[16:55] <undecim> Plus, its somewhat poetic, since it's a python class to begin with
[16:55] <mrkame> Hello, I want to test Ubuntu on my macbook - but if things go wrong for some reason and I don't like it, I want to restore it back exactly how it was with OSX. How can I do it?
[16:56] <undecim> mrkame, If you have an external hard drive, you can make an exact clone of your drive before setup, then restore it if you don't like it
[16:56] <undecim> mrkame, that's if your external drive has at least as much free space as the entire size of your internal drive
[16:57] <mrkame> I see, interesting (: I'll buy one then, thanks
[16:57] <undecim> mrkame, Not sure how it works on OSX though
[16:57] <undecim> mrkame, i.e. how difficult to the backup and restore is. You should research if Apple already has a similar solution
[16:57] <mrkame> I see.
[16:57] <undecim> mrkame, Alternatively, if you're buying an external drive, you can install Ubuntu to the external drive
[16:58] <undecim> mrkame, Again, not sure how well Mac will handle booting from an external drive. My experience is with PC
[16:58] <TomyWork> cos(f)+", "+ (-sin(f))+", 0, "+sin(f)+", "+ cos(f)+", 0, 0, 0, 1"
[16:58] <mrkame> If I don't do that and just backup essential files instead, can I reinstall Yosemite without an external usb stick/CD?
[16:58] <TomyWork> f=cos(t)*<10 degrees>
[16:59] <TomyWork> in whatever unit f has to be
[16:59] <undecim> Is there an apple channel?
[16:59] <daftykins> undecim: unofficial i think. #macosx or something, !alis for more
[17:01] <undecim> mrkame, there's a #MacOSX channel with >500 people in it that should be able to give you pointers on backup and restore
[17:01] <mrkame> oh woops...
[17:02] <mrkame> my bad
[17:02] <mrkame> didn't notice I just asked a mac question here, actually
[17:02] <undecim> it happens
[17:02] <daftykins> mrkame: if a sharpened penguin flies your way, you'll know why ;)
[17:03]  * undecim sharpens the edges of my old 'buntu discs
[17:04] <xinun> can anyone suggest me any link for learning hacking
[17:04] <undecim> "hacking" is a pretty broad term
[17:05] <daftykins> xinun: totally off topic and inappropriate here.
[17:05] <undecim> So my answer to your questions is google.com
[17:05] <lamppid> How i can set default permission on directory files or group i have /var/www/html directory and if i create new file, file creating with no permissions
[17:05] <dioz_tepes> hacking is so 90s
[17:06] <mrthomas> lamppid: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/applying-default-permissions-for-newly-created-files-within-a-specific-folder-605129/
[17:07] <lamppid> mrthomas,  thanks
[17:09] <mrthomas> lamppid: no problem, i actually didn't know so it was useful for me as well
[17:09] <undecim> lamppid, In the past, I've just used chmod -R on cron
[17:10] <daftykins> that's a pretty nasty shotgun strategy :P
[17:10] <lamppid> i try before umask 022
[17:10] <HamRadio> Hey guys I have a question, - when Ubuntu 14.04.2 comes out with the 3.16 kernel, will I be able to install the 3.16 kernel from the repositories?
[17:10] <bipul> I need a help. I am unable to download or update latest adobe flash player inside my ubuntu 14.04
[17:10] <undecim> well in this case, I wanted all the files to be 777
[17:11] <undecim> I wouldn't use it if i need the files to be private
[17:11] <undecim> HamRadio, the .1 and .2 are just package updates, so when you do a fresh install without internet access, you have more recent packages
[17:11] <daftykins> HamRadio: it'll have a HWE (hardware enablement stack) from utopic maybe
[17:11] <undecim> HamRadio, a normal update will get you the same kernel
[17:11] <daftykins> HamRadio: why would you want that though? you don't keep kernels up to date just for the sake of it.
[17:12] <tattto> yo, one quick question
[17:12] <daftykins> undecim: that's not true
[17:12] <undecim> daftykins, reall?
[17:12] <tattto> On unity, there's a software pre-installed that let's me encrypt drivers
[17:12] <undecim> really*
[17:12] <bipul> I need a help. I am unable to download or update latest adobe flash player inside my ubuntu 14.04 , I need adobe flash player10.
[17:12] <tattto> I don't have that on Xubuntu. Does anyone know the name so I can install it?
[17:12] <HamRadio> Thanks guys, I have a very new computer, and would like the latest kernel
[17:12] <tattto> It's "disk" something I think
[17:12] <HamRadio> bipul, you can't get flash player10
[17:12] <HamRadio> only 11.2
[17:13] <undecim> tattto, You want to encrypt an entire drive?
[17:13] <daftykins> HamRadio: does everything work as-is?
[17:13] <tattto> undecim, yes
[17:13] <HamRadio> daftykins, not really....audio is messed up
[17:13] <byte-smasher> where can I edit the default prompt_command, for all users in a system?
[17:13] <HamRadio> and graphics driver is old for my computer
[17:14] <daftykins> undecim: yep, packages might be available but you don't get anything but refreshes of the existing default kernel (e.g. 3.13 for 14.04, 3.16 for 14.10) from upgrades or dist-upgrade
[17:14] <bipul> alright 11, but how should i install it. I am getting a issue while installing
[17:14] <daftykins> HamRadio: so install fglrx from AMD instead of from repo - no idea on audio troubles.
[17:14] <undecim> daftykins, So they sometimes add new packages that weren't in the previous versions of the same code name?
[17:14] <HamRadio> I have an nVidia GPU
[17:14] <tattto> undecim, Do you know what I'm talking about?
[17:14] <undecim> tattto, The package the does all the work is cryptsetup, but I'm not sure what the GUI package is.
[17:14] <TomyWork> undecim i got something that makes my mouse go in sine curves when i move it straight :D
[17:15] <undecim> tattto, cryptsetup is done from the command line
[17:15] <daftykins> HamRadio: sorry i read AMD instead of and, tired eyes :P
[17:15] <tattto> undecim, damn, I really want a GUI.
[17:15] <daftykins> HamRadio: nvidia drivers can also be gotten from other sources than the default repo ones. but again, updating versions just for the sake of it isn't going to suddenly make it perform 100x faster. depends on what hardware you have
[17:15] <HamRadio> Yeah, audio is strange...it's I have a laptop, and the external mic doesn't work at all, and the internal mic is like the gain on the right channel is turned all the way up, while the left is all the way down
[17:16] <HamRadio> Hm, ok....thanks daftykins
[17:16] <X123> Hi!
[17:17] <HamRadio> Hi X123
[17:17] <daftykins> bipul: flash is dead. your best bet is to either install chrome and pepperflash, or install a pepperflash wrapper for use with firefox
[17:17] <X123> Trying to track down some strange issues with tcp connection stalling on 3.13 kernel (14.04.1 LTS)
[17:17] <undecim> tattto, let me see if i can find the package with the gui
[17:18] <X123> connecting to ssh or http has massive delays and eventually gets reset, even connecting locally 127.0.0.1
[17:18] <X123> for example ssh 127.0.0.1, put in password, and wait anywhere from 8 seconds to 2 mins, sometimes making it through and sometimes connection gets reset
[17:18] <bipul> daftykins, I am unable to open this site https://nextstep.tcs.com/campus/ just because, i required latest adobe flash10
[17:19] <daftykins> bipul: sorry i'm not going to click that
[17:19] <X123> seems to happen only after 10-15 mins of uptime and lots of connections have been established to the server
[17:19] <X123> anyone else see this behaviour :)
[17:19] <daftykins> define 'lots of connections' ?
[17:20] <bipul> I never said you to click it.
[17:21] <Darshan85> hi everyone
[17:22] <daftykins> bipul: ok :) wasn't much point sharing it then
[17:22] <Darshan85> I lost my grub after installing windows8.1. How can I get it back?
[17:22] <undecim> Darshan85, You need a liveCD
[17:22] <daftykins> !grub
[17:23] <X123> lots of connections, less than 1000
[17:23] <daftykins> X123: try #ubuntu-server
[17:23] <X123> i also noticed after some time period, i can't create a listen socket  any more
[17:23] <TomyWork> undecim https://gist.github.com/TomyLobo/d6473dd2a494cad724e2
[17:24] <tattto> undecim, I'm also searching for it, but so far no luck.
[17:24] <X123> daftykins , will do :)
[17:24] <X123> thanks
[17:24] <daftykins> np
[17:24] <X123> this is driving me batty :>
[17:24] <X123> doing it on multiple machines too
[17:24] <daftykins> X123: initial guess would be a bad driver for the NIC or something though, but i'm not exactly up on SSH woes
[17:24] <X123> like i said, it does it when you ssh to 127.0.0.1
[17:24] <X123> or curl 127.0.0.1
[17:24] <abas> مرحبه
[17:24] <X123> so that should have nothing to do with the NIC
[17:25] <Darshan85> thank you
[17:25] <daftykins> well you would think so, but i've seen stranger things
[17:25] <X123> haha ya
[17:25] <undecim> tattto, I think gnome-disk-utility is the package you're looking for.
[17:25] <en1gma> if i have a desktop shortcut in 14.10amd64 and i want to run as sudo how do i do it? when i right click and select properties i dont see a way to do it like that
[17:25] <X123> it has 4 NICs :)
[17:25] <undecim> tattto, in the Unity menu, it's simply called "Disks", and it allows encrypted partitions
[17:26] <tattto> undecim, sweet
[17:26] <X123> and i tried using ips on all of them , different drivers for the nics too
[17:26] <tattto> undecim, it's exactly this!
[17:26] <tattto> undecim, You're the best! Thank you.
[17:26] <TomyWork> undecim does it work for you? :)
[17:27] <undecim> TomyWork, just opened the page
[17:28] <undecim> TomyWork, quite well.
[17:29] <undecim> TomyWork, how can I adjust wavelength and amplitude?
[17:29] <TomyWork> they depend on how fast you go with the mouse
[17:29] <anonym> servus
[17:30] <undecim> TomyWork, I see. Though surely it's possible to amplify the effect?
[17:30] <TomyWork> you can adjust the amplitude of the rotation angle by replacing the number in front of "* degree"
[17:30] <TomyWork> right now it goes from -20 to +20 and back within 5 seconds
[17:30] <TomyWork> (the 5 seconds is the 5)
[17:31] <undecim> 50 has roughly the effect I'm looking for :)
[17:31] <TomyWork> :D
[17:36] <undecim> Is there a script or package for profiling a laptop? (e.g. getting specs on hardware and saving them in a file)
[17:37] <Seveas> undecim: lshw
[17:37] <undecim> I'm also looking for things like screen resolution
[17:37] <undecim> Would that be included in lshw?
[17:38] <Seveas> nope, but add xrandr :)
[17:39] <Seveas> undecim: there's also sosreport, but I don't know what details it includes.
[17:39] <undecim> What's that boot diagnostic script?
[17:42] <undecim> And also, can I get the available space on a partition without mounting it?
[17:42] <daftykins> undecim: what's wrong with searching the make + model?
[17:42] <daftykins> sudo parted -l
[17:42] <daftykins> ah no that's just partition size, ignore
[17:43] <undecim> I've been meaning to write this particular script for some time
[17:43] <undecim> and/or find one that already exists
[17:43] <Seveas> undecim: maybe df /dev/yourpartition-here, but I never tried that on a partition/volume that wasn't mounted
[17:44] <Trudko> hi guys if I want to symlink 6 different file in folder is there some shortcut or do I have to run ln -s 6x times?
[17:45] <undecim> Trudko, do the filenames have spaces in them?
[17:45] <Trudko> well no they are all in ./atom folder and names are config.cson  init.coffee   keymap.cson snippets.cson  style.less
[17:46] <undecim> Trudko: for file in "filename1 filename2 filename3"; do ln -s $file destination/ ; done
[17:46] <undecim> Trudko, Or you could symlink the directory, if it fits the situation
[17:47] <Trudko> undecim: well I dont want to whole directory because there is bunch of stuff which I dont want
[17:47] <Trudko> basicly I want to sync those files between two pcs using dropbox
[17:47] <Trudko> btw destination should be something like dropbox/something/.atom
[17:48] <Trudko> ou nvm I will just try it no need to ask
[17:49] <undecim> Seveas, yup, df works.
[17:49] <Charles_h_Christ> Anyone here familiar with Ubuntu on the Lenovo z50-75?
[17:50] <Seveas> undecim: good to know, thanks for reporting back
[18:05] <bravech> Hello!
[18:05] <daftykins> hi
[18:06] <bravech> hi
[18:06] <ljunggren> hi
[18:06] <X123> hi :)
[18:06] <daftykins> got a support question?
[18:06] <undecim> hi
[18:06] <kat_> is there a skype help channel?
[18:07] <daftykins> maybe microsoft will help with it
[18:07] <daftykins> what's your issue?
[18:07] <kat_> skype pics up my cam but not my speakers or mic
[18:08] <ljunggren> try #skype
[18:08] <undecim> ljunggren, there's only one person there....
[18:08] <ljunggren> undecim: lol
[18:09] <KavanS> lol
[18:09] <undecim> But if someone else joins him, maybe he'
[18:09] <undecim> ll have someone to skype with
[18:09] <ljunggren> i can join if you like undecim
[18:09] <KavanS> if you get a few people on, you can text chat....which is like skyping but better
[18:09] <undecim> ljunggren, i'm not there... its someone else
[18:09] <ljunggren> undecim: im there alone now
[18:09] <undecim> kat_, Does skype show up in your volume settings?
[18:10] <undecim> there's #skype, and ##skype, with a current total of 3 people. Suffice to say, there is not a skype support channel.
[18:11] <kat_> no
[18:12] <kat_> undecim no it doesn't
[18:14] <undecim> kat_, have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SkypeTroubleshooting
[18:15] <kat_> undecim no sir I have not. I am running the system checker thingy right now and as soon as it's complete I will look at that and get back to you. I also just installed some updates.
[18:15] <monner> hi, I buy laptop Dell inspiron15 and it comes with ubunut 12.04.1 LST,ok. I dont know What the Default password of the Root user?
[18:15] <undecim> monner, there may not be a default password
[18:15] <theadmin> monner: None.
[18:15] <theadmin> monner: Use sudo to run commands as root.
[18:15] <theadmin> !sudo
[18:20] <monner> but it ask me the password win I want update or install Programs
[18:21] <theadmin> monner: That's your user password.
[18:21] <theadmin> monner: The same one you use to log in.
[18:22] <OerHeks> monner, after you bought that laptop, the 1st account you created has root privileges
[18:23] <conall> Is there any software on ubuntu for bypassing a SIM lock on an android?
[18:24] <monner> ok, I well try,Thank you
[18:24] <daftykins> conall: no and that's inappropriate for this channel and network
[18:24] <conall> daftykins, Ok, sorry
[18:25] <Guest1> Are there any possible problems when compiling one part of a program, a library and then using it with another one, an app (or few apps) installed from repositories?
[18:25] <jareddlc> hey guys is there a command that will list all utilities a system has for editing files?
[18:26] <theadmin> jareddlc: Not really, but well... Ubuntu always has Nano preinstalled, and a basic version of Vim
[18:26] <kat> yeah, did the updates, still doesn't work
[18:26] <theadmin> jareddlc: Besides, "files" is very generic. I assume you mean text files.
[18:27] <jareddlc> theadmin: iits a question in a linux course
[18:28] <juan_> hellow
[18:29] <OerHeks> Guest1, possible, yes.
[18:29] <jareddlc> theadmin: is there someting to list text editors? its very ambigous question so i dont know what they mean
[18:29] <theadmin> jareddlc: What's the question, exactly?
[18:30] <theadmin> Like, exactly how it's written
[18:30] <OerHeks> jareddlc, ubottu can tell some
[18:30] <daftykins> if it's a course, surely it has the answer.
[18:30] <OerHeks> !ide
[18:30] <OerHeks> !editor
[18:30] <jareddlc> "how can you find out which utilities are available on your system for editing files?" theadmin
[18:30] <theadmin> jareddlc: That's... a really badly phrased questions.
[18:30] <jareddlc> agreed
[18:31] <Guest1> What is the lightest web browser that doesn't lack in terms of security or web technologies support?
[18:31] <theadmin> There's no command that would list all text editors, and the definition of "file" is... bad
[18:31] <theadmin> Guest1: Eh, I'd say Chromium
[18:31] <theadmin> ...basically everything else does lag behind. Even Firefox.
[18:31] <leafybasil> I have been trying to get my keyboard settings right for over an hour, I have a macbook pro (uk), and the 'Keyboard Layout' that I'm shown is correct, but the button key mappings are not and I dont understand why.
[18:32] <theadmin> leafybasil: Apart from the layout, you should be able to select a keyboard model.
[18:32] <theadmin> leafybasil: Make sure you have the right one selected.
[18:32] <leafybasil> theadmin: when you say that, where?
[18:32] <jareddlc> yeah theadmin it sucks
[18:32] <theadmin> leafybasil: Hm. I wish I'd remember.
[18:32] <leafybasil> theadmin: from the systray icon I can choose ENglish UK and US
[18:32] <jareddlc> which is why i decided to see if somenone here knew about it :)
[18:32] <leafybasil> and see the chart
[18:32] <theadmin> leafybasil: Not that, it's somewhere under System Settings -> Keyboard
[18:33] <leafybasil> theadmin: i'm new to unity, i have no idea how to get to system settings anymore
[18:33] <theadmin> leafybasil: Weird gear thing in top right -> System Settings
[18:34] <leafybasil> theadmin: right I've been on this dialogue before, I have no option to change keyboard, I have repeat rate and blink rate, and I have shortcuts but no option to set/change keyboard
[18:34] <RedheadedCupcake> anyone have any idea on this skype deal?
[18:34] <theadmin> RedheadedCupcake: Eh?
[18:34] <ikonia> Skype deal ?
[18:34] <RedheadedCupcake> Skype video works but I can't hear/talk
[18:34] <pragmaticenigma> I'm currently experiencing an issue with scp-dbus-services.py. When ever I print something, I get a blank space in my notification area in the taskbar. Normally when printing completes the notification goes away. does anyone know how to fix it?
[18:35] <theadmin> leafybasil: Blah... I'll have to check but for that I need to grab an Ubuntu ISO and stuff. This will take a while...
[18:35] <RedheadedCupcake> mic and speakers don't work on skype and only skype.
[18:35] <bubbasaures> RedheadedCupcake, ubnutu repos version?
[18:35] <theadmin> pragmaticenigma: It's probably the print job notification and your icon is missing.
[18:35] <GraemeLion> RedheadedCupcake: Are you using Pulseaudio?
[18:35] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: so that suggests to me skype is possibly using the wrong sound device indentifier/device files
[18:35] <RedheadedCupcake> eeek I don't know guys
[18:35] <leafybasil> theadmin: I'll continue to google, but as yet nothing has worked, given it's running in VMware fusion, and there are a finite number of mac models + keyboards, it feels like this should be a solved problem.
[18:35] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: first question is "how did you install skype"
[18:36] <leafybasil> theadmin: that was an observation rather than a complaint
[18:36] <RedheadedCupcake> I'm okay-ish with this. if you tell me what to put into terminal, I follow instructions very well...
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> theadmin, shouldn't the notification disappear when printing is complete? Is there any packages I might be missing that need to be installed for the icon to appear normally?
[18:37] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia I went to the website and downloaded it from there. They didn't have the 64 bit version so I I dl'd the 32 bit for 14.04 LTS then I clicked on it in my dl's folder and it opened up in the software center
[18:37] <Rapture> how to manually update ntp to 4.2.8?
[18:37] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[18:37] <xangua> Rapture: by manually compiling
[18:38] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia in the skype settings for mic and speakers it says virtual device and when I click the box to select something else there is nothing else to select
[18:38] <Rapture> Xangua: link to steps or instructions?
[18:38] <RedheadedCupcake> 14.04 LTS
[18:38] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: in options what is your microphone/speakers/ringing setting
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> RedheadedCupcake, are you able to use your mic and speakers normally with other applications?
[18:38] <leafybasil> theadmin: okay under 'text entry' I can add input sources, which appear to be keyboards...
[18:38] <francesco_> ciao
[18:39] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia "virtual device" all 3
[18:39] <xangua> !compile | Rapture
[18:39] <xangua> it depends to the program itself, but the recommended is to install from software respositoriories
[18:39] <RedheadedCupcake> pragmaticenigma yes I am
[18:39] <jareddlc> theadmin: i just asked a student, they said they wrote down, "apropos editor"
[18:39] <francesco_> !list
[18:40] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: in the drop downs do you have "PulseAudio" as an option
[18:40] <pragmaticenigma> Rapture, if you are looking to make sure you version of NTP is patched against the latest vulnerability, the patch has been already applied through your regular system updates
[18:40] <RedheadedCupcake> no
[18:40] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: what options do you have
[18:40] <RedheadedCupcake> There are no other options other than virtual device
[18:40] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: that sounds like there is your problem
[18:40] <Rapture> pragmaticenigma: # ntpd --version
[18:40] <Rapture> ntpd 4.2.6p5
[18:41] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia OK wonderful, how do we correct this problem?
[18:41] <ikonia> Rapture: why do you want a different version ?
[18:41] <Rapture> ikonia: I just want to make sure it's not vulnerable
[18:41] <ikonia> Rapture: right - so use the ubuntu version - security fixes get back ported
[18:42] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: so thats the key question, why / what is your virtual device
[18:42] <pragmaticenigma> Rapture, version numbers will not always match. When patches are backported, the version number doesn't change
[18:42] <Rapture> how to tell if it's patched?
[18:42] <ikonia> Rapture: is it from the repos
[18:42] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia i don't know. I don't have anything but my mouse plugged in and don't have a virtual device -- I don't even know what that means!
[18:43] <Rapture> ikonia: this is an ec2 instance
[18:43] <ikonia> Rapture: is the package from the ubuntu repos
[18:43] <Rapture> ikonia: I assume so? I just did apt-get install ntp
[18:43] <ikonia> Rapture: check
[18:44] <Rapture> how?
[18:44] <ikonia> Rapture: right - I'm not being mean here, but you don't know how to check where you package comes from - but you feel you are qualified to judge if it's secure or not ?
[18:44] <Rapture> ikonia: I got an email from AWS saying it should be patched. I never said I was qualified
[18:45] <ikonia> Rapture: then if they have mailed you to say it's patched - why are you looking to update ?
[18:45] <pragmaticenigma> Rapture, then you should be contacting Amazon on how you can verify or trust the notification they sent you. This is not the correct forum for your question
[18:45] <Pici> Rapture: Do you mean that they emailed saying that you should patch it, or that it has already been patched?
[18:45] <Rapture> ikonia: re-read...they said it should be patched
[18:46] <LonelyDanbo> how do I find out of my PDF viewer communicates what I'm looking at to any online sites?
[18:46] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: if you run alsamixer - do you see volume levels
[18:46] <ikonia> Rapture: right - so if you're on the current version from their repo......it's patched
[18:46] <ikonia> Rapture: why are you trying to upgrade if they are saying they have patched their version
[18:46] <ki7mt> That's how Amz pawns off the responsibility, by saying "it should be" x,y,z
[18:46] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia, Pici et al, Rapture should be contacting Amazon for support.
[18:47] <Pici> ikonia: I think Rapture is say that AWS said that "you should patch this" rather than "we have patched this"
[18:47] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia: how do I run that
[18:47] <ikonia> Pici: which seems unlikley for them to say "you should patch our software"
[18:47] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: the command is alsamixer
[18:47] <pragmaticenigma> Pici, that is not what he said... he said he got an e-mail that stated it was patched, he wants to verify
[18:48] <Pici> ikonia, pragmaticenigma: I'm unsure how AWS distributes Ubuntu packages.  I'll go back to lurking now :)
[18:48] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia yes I see them.
[18:48] <ikonia> Pici: I'm trying to find out the same too, it looks like it's just a deb mirror
[18:48] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: is the volume up on them ?
[18:48] <ikonia> what is the "card" listed as ?
[18:48] <pragmaticenigma> Pici, it's best that Rapture takes that question to Amazon support. He pays for a service and they should be providing support for him
[18:49] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia yes, it is. I ran the system test and it worked. I can hear stuff, it's just skype that isn't doing what it should
[18:49] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: what is the "card" listed as ?
[18:50] <egregius> hi
[18:51] <egregius> i think my video software isnt displaying my scat porn properly
[18:51] <egregius> the brown looks purple
[18:51] <RedheadedCupcake>  HDA Intel PCH
[18:51] <xubuntu91w> I can't launch Arista it says "Attempt to unlock mutex that was not locked Abandon (core dumped)" in the terminal
[18:51] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia  HDA Intel PCH
[18:52] <egregius> cupcake do you have a penis?
[18:52] <RedheadedCupcake> no
[18:52] <RedheadedCupcake> do you
[18:52] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: change it to the virtual one
[18:52] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: sadly I have to go
[18:52] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia how do i change it
[18:54] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia there isn't an option for a virtual one, I have to go too.
[18:54] <c_nick> Anyone tried to run  Windows 98 from Virtual Box
[18:54] <theadmin> c_nick: Yes, that works.
[18:55] <c_nick> theadmin, when i try it bugs out at the installation start up
[18:55] <theadmin> c_nick: Well, that's honestly not an Ubuntu problem.
[18:55] <c_nick> would the actual hardware 64 bit be an issue?
[18:56] <c_nick> hmm yeah just wanted a user perspective
[18:56] <theadmin> Meh, I used it on a 64-bit computer
[18:56] <leafybasil> If I see something "generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-32-generic", does this mean ill need to reboot to see changes?
[18:56] <c_nick> ok thanks theadmin
[18:56] <c_nick> and its Virtual Box on Windows or Linux
[18:57] <theadmin> They're the same, eh.
[18:57] <Pici> leafybasil: yes.
[18:57] <leafybasil> Pici: so changing my keyboard options, means rebooting?
[18:58] <Pici> leafybasil: Without know what command you ran to get that, I wouldn't be able to say for sure.
[18:58] <leafybasil> Pici: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[18:59] <leafybasil> In a vain attempt to get a keyboard to work.
[18:59] <kalitest1> what now?
[19:00] <Pici> leafybasil: hm.  It may not require a reboot... but its hard to say for sure.  although, if it ended up regenerating that, I would guess that it would.  Sorry for the guessing :/
[19:00] <leafybasil> Pici: I can't stomach the idea that changing keyboard settings would require a reboot, this isn't windows.
[19:01] <pa> is it normal that killling (with SIGKILL) dhcpd cause it to respawn?
[19:02] <Pici> leafybasil: Feels weird to me too. It really should just be changing things in /etc/default/keyboard...
[19:03] <leafybasil> I'm changing settings like a madman, and none of them are having any impact
[19:03] <leafybasil> How can it be this hard to configure a keyboard.
[19:05] <Pici> leafybasil: it looks like you may be able to call service console-setup reload.
[19:06] <leafybasil> Pici: strangely I just got one of the keys to work through some change, but others are broken that ahve worked up until now :P  do you mean 'sudo service console-setup reload'
[19:06] <Pici> leafybasil: yes
[19:06] <RobinHood2015> I have an internal hard drive with Windows and an external hard drive on which I have installed Ubuntu. Is it possible to add this Ubuntu installation to the Windows Boot Manager on my internal hard drive?
[19:06] <Pici> leafybasil: Is this a mac?
[19:06] <theadmin> RobinHood2015: No, simply because the Windows boot manager can't boot anything except Windows.
[19:07] <leafybasil> Pici: yeah it is, can move to PM if you prefer?
[19:07] <leafybasil> Pici: almost all of the keys are working now
[19:08] <Pici> leafybasil: here is fine.  I was just looking at the source for /bin/setupcon and there were references to Macs... (although I guess it really says PPC Macs which you probably don't have)
[19:08] <bubbasaures> RobinHood2015, bcd can be modified, ask in ##windows probably, there is easybcd for another option.
[19:08] <leafybasil> Pici: so the systray icon for language/keyboard lets me select 'input sources', changing between all of them makes no difference at all
[19:09] <Pici> leafybasil: Anyway, the kernel and rebooting stuff looks like it is to make sure that the keyboard is setup early enough in the boot sequence so that it can be used properly if you happen to drop to single user mode or similar before the rest of the boot sequence happens.
[19:09] <leafybasil> Pici: nah, BMP
[19:09] <leafybasil> Pici: that would make sense
[19:09] <Pici> leafybasil: Sadly, I'm not much of a GUI person, I tend to stay on the server side of things, so I'm not really going to be able to help with systray stuff.
[19:10] <leafybasil> Pici: well I'm assuming that's just a GUI for setting stuff in Xorg, I used to run arch, I just wanted something that required less setup this time.
[19:11] <pragmaticenigma> RobinHood2015, It is not recommended to setup external devices as a permanent option to boot from. if the drive is disconnected or damanged, you will not be able to boot your computer
[19:14] <pragmaticenigma> Does anyone know how to get scp-dbus-services.py to close itself when I'm done printing. It leaves a corrupted blank space in my taskbar when I finish printing.
[19:16] <YamakasY> hi guys
[19:17] <daftykins> hi
[19:17] <YamakasY> I´m looking for a way which can override a file when I update a package which contains the same file, but without --force-overwrite
[19:18] <imbezol> which packages, which file, and why?
[19:19] <YamakasY> just because I need to
[19:19] <YamakasY> some /home/foo/bla.etx
[19:19] <YamakasY> etx
[19:19] <YamakasY> ext
[19:19] <YamakasY> I create this package myself
[19:20] <pragmaticenigma> YamakasY, it helps to know what packages and files so we have context on what you are attempting to do
[19:20] <genii> why not .deb ?
[19:20] <YamakasY> pragmaticenigma, just a file in a deb
[19:20] <YamakasY> full path, you know how to create a deb I guess ?
[19:21] <genii> You should instead just install to /usr/local  and not overwrite any system files
[19:21] <genii> or the /opt  or so on
[19:22] <YamakasY> genii, there are no rules about it ;)
[19:22] <imbezol> i think the basic feeling is that what you're trying to do is a bad idea. why would you want to?
[19:22] <genii> There are actually guidelines for this
[19:22] <genii> so " no rules about this" is untrue
[19:22] <YamakasY> imbezol, because I created some small program I need to install and my update has the same names file
[19:22] <YamakasY> so it needs to override the updated version
[19:23] <imbezol> same names as what?
[19:23] <YamakasY> filename
[19:23] <imbezol> your update is not the same package name though?
[19:23] <YamakasY> it is and it needs to be also
[19:23] <jhutchins> YamakasY: That should work, as long as you use a reasonable version number for your package.  That's how files that don't incorporate version numbers are updated after all.
[19:24] <YamakasY> jhutchins, mhh weird it complains the files are the same, which are not
[19:24] <YamakasY> the package has a different version number
[19:24] <jhutchins> YamakasY: I believe the wiki has information on custom packaging.  I don't know exactly where.
[19:25] <YamakasY> yeah I already made a couple but this package doesn´t go well
[19:26] <YamakasY> I wonder if it really compares the packages inside
[19:26] <YamakasY> I mean, the files
[19:28] <leafybasil> Pici: seems for the most part to work, now just a small issue with # and £ which are the same key on my keyboard
[19:32] <astropirate> Hello friends
[19:32] <astropirate> How do I set JSON value to an environment variable?
[19:35] <leafybasil> Hmm on other OSes I usually compiled DWM and DMENU with my preferences, how do you configure them on ubuntu?  They don't seem to have configs in /etc
[19:38] <u-bot> 0
[19:52] <NinjaCowboy> Is there any way to install Qemu 2.x on Ubuntu 12.04. I downloaded the source code, but doing ./configure --enable-libusb gives me this error ERROR: User requested feature libusb configure was not able to find it.
[19:53] <NinjaCowboy> I do have libusb and libusb-dev already installed, though.
[19:54] <NinjaCowboy> I tried using qemu 1.0 which is the version in the repositories, but it always hangs about a minute after starting a VM.
[19:57] <kostkon> !info firefox trusty
[20:04] <theadmin> astropirate: That doesn't make any sense. JSON is just a way to represent data.
[20:05] <theadmin> astropirate: How to get it depends on your programming language.
[20:05] <astropirate> theadmin, you don't make any sense
[20:05] <astropirate> theadmin, kidding. I saw the errors of my ways and have come up with a better solution
[20:05] <theadmin> Err, okay
[20:05] <astropirate> theadmin, thank you good sir
[20:05] <astropirate> and/or ma'am
[20:06] <theadmin> Glad you figured it out
[20:08] <jordo> hello does anyone think they can help me figure out why i cant download any apps or update my system
[20:09] <retroispresto> Hai~
[20:09] <m1dnight_> guys im installing ubuntu on a dual boot machine, but i forgot where I put my bootloader
[20:09] <daftykins> jordanm: "cat /etc/issue" to start with
[20:09] <m1dnight_> sda (ubuntu drive), sdb (windows drive) or somewhere else?
[20:09] <hydrajump> anyone know how to add a custom python indicator to the unity-greeter?
[20:10] <NinjaCowboy> sudo apt-get remove qemu
[20:10] <NinjaCowboy> Whoops, wrong window. sorry.
[20:10] <daftykins> midnightcommand: is Windows already on the second? what's the order of events here...
[20:10] <RedheadedCupcake> Ok I am back, can someone please help me with my Skype issue
[20:10] <daftykins> midnightcommand: oops sorry
[20:10] <daftykins> m1dnight_: ^
[20:10] <retroispresto> daftykins
[20:10] <daftykins> retroispresto?
[20:11] <m1dnight_> daftykins: yes it is already on there. ubuntu is/was on there too
[20:11] <retroispresto> Would I be helping Ubuntu's development if I used an Alpha or daily build in a VM and reported bugs to launchpad?
[20:11] <m1dnight_> /dev/sda is ubuntu, /dev/sdb is Windows
[20:11] <daftykins> m1dnight_: so the live session sees the disks swapped?
[20:11] <m1dnight_> yes
[20:12] <theadmin> retroispresto: Certainly, you can find info on the current testing version and discuss it at #ubuntu+1
[20:12] <daftykins> retroispresto: give them a shout in #ubuntu+1 - i don't have a clue on contribution
[20:12] <daftykins> !contribute
[20:12] <daftykins> retroispresto: ^ that might be handy though
[20:12] <retroispresto> Thanks ^^
[20:12] <genii> hemingway
[20:13] <undecim> m1dnight_, sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
[20:13] <undecim> m1dnight_, if you see the word "Grub" amongst gibberish, that's probably your bootloader
[20:13] <amriunix> hi guys !! i have this kind of error in curl !!! "(6) Could not resolve host:" - any idea ???
[20:14] <daftykins> amriunix: yeah busted DNS or the host doesn't exist
[20:14] <daftykins> try by IP to confirm
[20:14] <ikonia> your dns for that url is not working
[20:15] <amriunix> bro my dns 8.8.8.8 !!! how can this possible !!! and i was using this of web terminal represent. http://showterm.io
[20:15] <daftykins> amriunix: #1 suggestion - don't bring the street talk in here.
[20:15] <amriunix> daftykins: ok sorry !!
[20:16] <daftykins> amriunix: "dig domain.com" resolve ?
[20:16] <ikonia> amriunix: how did you set your dns to 8.8.8.8 ?
[20:17] <amriunix> ikonia: /etc/resolv.conf and update with "resolvconf -u"
[20:18] <ikonia> thats not how you use it
[20:18] <Guest70399>  does any one know how to use bluefish editor ?
[20:18] <ikonia> ubuntu uses dnsmasq
[20:19] <amriunix> ikonia: Sorry, but what you mean ??
[20:19] <ikonia> exactly what i sd
[20:19] <ikonia> said
[20:20] <retroispresto> So I just go over and grab http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/vivid-desktop-i386.iso and I can start helping?
[20:21] <ikonia> retroispresto: ?
[20:21] <undecim> retroispresto, pretty much
[20:22] <undecim> retroispresto, more bug reports give the devs more info to find out what is causing a bug
[20:22] <ikonia> that is not true
[20:22] <ikonia> blind bug reports do not help
[20:22] <undecim> ikonia, yeah, but those can be ignored
[20:22] <ikonia> undecim: you don't know until you investigate them
[20:23] <ikonia> it wastes time and effort
[20:24] <Guest70399>  does any one know how to use bluefish editor ?
[20:25] <Guest70399>  does any one know how to use bluefish editor ?
[20:25] <Guest70399> or wr i cn get get help
[20:25] <ikonia> tried the bluefish support services ?
[20:26] <Guest70399> is this online or chat?
[20:26] <ikonia> look on the website what options they offer
[20:26] <Guest70399> ikonia, is this online or chat?
[20:26] <ikonia> look on the website what options they offer
[20:26] <Guest70399> ikonia,  do u know of any room in here i can go ask ?
[20:27] <ikonia> look on the website what options they offer
[20:27] <Guest70399> ikonia,  its really simple but im used to using dreamweaver
[20:27] <ikonia> look on the website what options they offer
[20:27] <O_OniGiri> hi there, I just received my new HP zbook 14 with Windows pre installed. today I tried to install xubuntu while removing Windows. unfortunately no luck. I am getting a message saying: no bootable image was found.
[20:27] <gr33n7007h> is ikonia a bot lol :)
[20:28] <ikonia> he's not
[20:28] <gr33n7007h> I know, jk :)
[20:28] <undecim> Yes he is. He's just well programmed
[20:28] <undecim> O_OniGiri, Did you complete the install process?
[20:28] <O_OniGiri> yes I did
[20:28] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: enter the EFI and check what the boot entry is
[20:28] <hoogeveen> so, i was trying to kickstart ubuntu 14.04.1 tls over NFS and it appears from the out-of-date doc that pulling pkgs from nfs is not yet supported?
[20:28] <hoogeveen> is this true?
[20:28] <undecim> O_OniGiri, What version of windows was installed?
[20:28] <O_OniGiri> 8.1 I think
[20:29] <hoogeveen> i see that one can specify the kickstart config file via nfs, but the actual archive must be a cdrom?
[20:29] <undecim> O_OniGiri, You may need to disable Secure Boot
[20:29] <hoogeveen> the install fails looking for an ISO in the cdrom drive (which, of course, doesn't exist)
[20:30] <O_OniGiri> I already disabled secure boot
[20:30] <ikonia> hoogeveen: depends how you are trying to pull the packages
[20:30] <hoogeveen> over nfs?
[20:30] <jhutchins> hoogeveen: I don't know what the failure mode is, but it's supposed to reject a foreign OS on a CD.
[20:30] <ikonia> hoogeveen: no, thats the file store
[20:30] <hoogeveen> there is no cd in the drive
[20:30] <ikonia> hoogeveen: how are you trying to pull them
[20:30] <jhutchins> hoogeveen: Sorry, crossthread.
[20:30] <hoogeveen> i'm not sure.   the same way that works with redhat and OEL.
[20:30] <hoogeveen> whatever method is used there.
[20:31] <jhutchins> O_OniGiri: How did you prepare the boot media (and what is it)?
[20:31] <hoogeveen> i believe that the nfs mount the directory tree containing the ISO
[20:31] <hoogeveen> then copy from there.
[20:31] <ikonia> hoogeveen: well, no you're not as redhat pulls rpms with the rpm/yum command
[20:31] <ikonia> hoogeveen: ubuntu doens't do that - so I'm asking how your install process is installing/pulling the packages
[20:31] <jhutchins> hoogeveen: Did you create the boot media with unetbootin?
[20:32] <O_OniGiri> brb
[20:35] <O_OniGiri> jhutchins not sure what you mean,  but the laptop has a msata ssd 128gb and a hdd 500gb
[20:36] <undecim> O_OniGiri, How did you load Ubuntu? A thumb drive?
[20:36] <O_OniGiri> yeah I made a bootable usb
[20:37] <undecim> O_OniGiri, how?
[20:37] <O_OniGiri> I used Rufus to make the bootable usb
[20:37] <O_OniGiri> I just ran boot-repair using xubuntu from usb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9751855/
[20:38] <daftykins> i can't stand the logs from that program, it's like reading a mini novel
[20:38] <daftykins> then being tested on it afterwards =|
[20:38] <jhutchins> Hm, Rufus doesn't seem to have an option to verify the burn.
[20:39] <O_OniGiri> but I am pretty sure that it is correctly burned
[20:39] <daftykins> you don't burn to USB.
[20:39] <jhutchins> O_OniGiri: Did you verify the iso?
[20:39] <O_OniGiri> I used the same USB to install xubuntu on an desktop
[20:39] <jhutchins> daftykins: What verb do you suggest?
[20:39] <daftykins> transfer
[20:39] <jhutchins> O_OniGiri: So verified as bootable.
[20:40] <undecim> O_OniGiri, see if "Grub", "Ubuntu" or "Xubuntu" shows up in your boot options in Setup
[20:40] <O_OniGiri> I have the feeling though that my computer is only searching the hdd for the bootable image and not the ssd
[20:41] <O_OniGiri> undecim if I go to boot options it does show ubuntu
[20:41] <undecim> O_OniGiri, I would imagine that the SSD is where the computer would be configured to boot from... It's faster for booting than HDD
[20:42] <O_OniGiri> undecim, I would think so too
[20:42] <juan_> hola
[20:42] <O_OniGiri> Anyways xubuntu boots correctly if chosen from boot menu
[20:43] <undecim> O_OniGiri, via UEFI/Bios setup?
[20:43] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: as on my first reply, enter the EFI and change the boot device :)
[20:43] <O_OniGiri> daftykins, how do I enter efi?
[20:43] <daftykins> depends on machine and brand
[20:44] <O_OniGiri> it's a hp
[20:44] <daftykins> consult your manual
[20:44] <grogoreo> hi
[20:44] <undecim> O_OniGiri, Usually Esc, F2, or Del key during early boot
[20:44] <daftykins> typically F2, F12, delete... sometimes a dedicated button from power off...
[20:45] <O_OniGiri> and then go into bios settings?
[20:45] <undecim> O_OniGiri, sometimes I just press all the top row keys
[20:45] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: EFI = new name, BIOS replacement. so yeah, same thing
[20:45] <grogoreo> I've Ubuntu installed (with Unity) but recently tried i3 but when I play videos the picture appears to tear which it doesn't do when using Unity. Any ideas why?
[20:45] <jmw> At leaston HP Z-Workstations, [ESC] will bring up a full menu of choices pre-boot.
[20:46] <daftykins> grogoreo: 3D accel probably. what graphics?
[20:47] <O_OniGiri> I have the following order currently : m2 ssd hard drive,  os  boot manager, usb hard drive, ipv4,ipv6, SD card, generic USB, custom boot
[20:47] <grogoreo> daftykins, Intel graphics on i3 laptop. I wondered if it was necessary for a compositor so tried compton however that didn't help. Video smooth in Unity, don't get the difference.
[20:47] <RedheadedCupcake> can someone help me with my mic/speakers they aren't working in Skype but they work everywhere else
[20:48] <daftykins> grogoreo: you can have a go at applying tearfree to your xorg.conf to resolve. as per - http://askubuntu.com/questions/418398/tear-free-disabled-in-intel-graphics-tearing-in-xubuntu
[20:49] <O_OniGiri> that order results in an error
[20:49] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: which order? SSD first? yeah not surprising, change it to 'custom boot manager first' perhaps
[20:49] <daftykins> a pic would be nice though
[20:50] <grogoreo> daftykins, thanks I'll have a look. Would you know what Unity is specifically doing to not need that.
[20:50] <profit> existing :D
[20:50] <daftykins> grogoreo: not a clue
[20:51] <O_OniGiri> daftykins I could make a picture if you want...
[20:51] <daftykins> though i've seen people have the tearing in unity too, so it's a total guess
[20:51] <grogoreo> daftykins, fair do's. thanks
[20:51] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: eh, you can just experiment with the options there :> probably quicker
[20:52] <lustic> hey! I installed another distro alongside Ubuntu,  the grub menu does not show up after I start my laptop,  is there a easy to use tool to resolve this ?
[20:53] <profit> boot into rescue, # update-grub
[20:53] <profit> or grub-install /dev/sdX
[20:53] <lustic> apt-get grub install ?
[20:53] <O_OniGiri> daftykins custom boot freezes my laptop at the hp logo splash screen
[20:54] <profit> grub-install should be installed already as part of your ubuntu install
[20:54] <profit> update-grub is a command to update grub's config files, grub-install writes the bootloader somehwere
[20:54] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: you'll never guess what i suggest...
[20:54] <O_OniGiri> I pressed the power button already
[20:54] <lustic> I need to boot into rescue to execute update-grub?
[20:54] <RedheadedCupcake> anyone....?
[20:55] <profit> lustic: yeah so that you have a shell to work off of. you'll want to chroot into your ubuntu install
[20:55] <lustic> I'm pretty noob for that, : /
[20:55] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, what's your problem exactly
[20:56] <O_OniGiri> daftykins nothing fixes the problem :(
[20:56] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon I dl'd Skype from the website, opened it, it took me to the software center, installed it. Cam works but speakers and mic do not
[20:57] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, what happens when you start a call then
[20:57] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: nothing at all huh? as in no entry at all?
[20:57] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon it calls but the other person can't hear me and i can't hear them
[20:57] <O_OniGiri> daftykins yeah no entry at all
[20:57] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: in alsa mixer what devices do you have ?
[20:58] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, first of all, you better install the version from the ubuntu repos
[20:58] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon in settings it's saying I have it set to "virtual device"
[20:58] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, that's normal
[20:58] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon can you give me the magic terminal code for that
[20:59] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: one idea, install GRUB to the SSD to pass over to the HDD... alternative idea, check for EFI (BIOS) updates to the machine that avoid this issue. or - scour the EFI for some other setting that might influence this
[20:59] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon i'm iffy with ubuntu, but i follow directions really well. so you tell me what to do and i will do it. but i don't know what to enter into terminal so you'll have to tell me what to copy/paste when you want me to use terminal
[20:59] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, remove the current one, then in the software centre, click Edit -> Software Sources, then 3rd party software and then enable the Partner repository
[20:59] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: ps -ef | grep pulse
[20:59] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: what do you get
[21:00] <lustic_> hmmm
[21:00] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia http://pastebin.com/52L6X2Dh
[21:01] <lustic_> profit,  my connection died can you tell me one more time ?
[21:01] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: looks good
[21:01] <ikonia> lustic_: there is no one called profit in here
[21:01] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia I am going to do what kostkon suggested by removing it.
[21:01] <Newyorkadam> hi, I’m pretty new to ubuntu. I run 14.04 on a digitalocean droplet. I’m having a slight problem:
[21:01] <O_OniGiri> daftykins how do I install grub on my SSD?
[21:01] <O_OniGiri> daftykins nvm I will google it
[21:01] <Newyorkadam> I run the command “mv /var/www/html/games/wordpress/ /var/www/html/games”
[21:02] <ikonia> Newyorkadam: talk to digitalocean - they change the install to a custom setup
[21:02] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon, ikonia can either of you give me the terminal command to remove skype?
[21:02] <Newyorkadam> and get an error: “mv: ‘/var/www/html/games/wordpress/’ and ‘/var/www/html/games/wordpress’ are the same file”
[21:02] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: apt-get purge skype
[21:02] <Newyorkadam> ikonia: I’ve got it all set up. I just ran into this one problem
[21:02] <ikonia> Newyorkadam: you're moving it to the same place
[21:02] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: that was probably the least good idea :>
[21:02] <ikonia> Newyorkadam: hence why they are the same
[21:02] <Newyorkadam> ikonia: but they’re clearing different files
[21:02] <shiggitay> hi guys... I have a question: how hard would it be to compile a custom kernel for Ubuntu? I'd like to install elementary os onto my baytrail tablet, but it doesn't have the required eMMC drivers to see the storage.
[21:02] <ikonia> Newyorkadam: not according to that command
[21:02] <Newyorkadam> or folders I should say
[21:03] <Newyorkadam> ikonia: isn’t that moving the /games/wordpress to /games? I’m afraid I don’t understand
[21:03] <lustic_> I installed another distro alongside Ubuntu, no grub menu appears upon boot,  someone already gave me the solution but I lost the page here and had to reconnect : /  care to answer?
[21:03] <ikonia> Newyorkadam: no
[21:03] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia do you think the problem is because i installed the 32 bit version and my laptop is 64 bit?
[21:03] <daftykins> Newyorkadam: yeah your command syntax is wrong, "mv /var/www/html/games/wordpress /var/www/html/games/"
[21:03] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia whatever you told me to do is finished.
[21:03] <ikonia> Newyorkadam: and moving /games/wordpress to /games - is the same place
[21:04] <Newyorkadam> ikonia: what I’m trying to do is move the files that are under /games/wordpress to just under /games/
[21:04] <Jordan_U> lustic_: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[21:04] <daftykins> Newyorkadam: oops i messed up too!
[21:04] <daftykins> Newyorkadam: yeah your command syntax is wrong, "mv /var/www/html/games/wordpress /var/www/html/"
[21:04] <Newyorkadam> daftykins: haha
[21:04] <theadmin> Newyorkadam: Then you want to do: mv /var/www/html/games/wordpress/{*,.*} /var/www/html/games/
[21:04] <ikonia> Newyorkadam: then stop trying to move the games directory
[21:04] <O_OniGiri> daftykins btw,  during the xubuntu installation I noticed something, not sure if it matters. But sda was my HDD and sdb was my ssd
[21:04] <shiggitay> anyone?
[21:04] <lustic_> jordan - /dev/sda4:Debian GNU/Linux (Kali Linux 1.0.9):Debian:linux
[21:04] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: does it matter?
[21:04] <ikonia> shiggitay: talk to elementary teams
[21:05] <ikonia> shiggitay: elemntary is not ubuntu
[21:05] <daftykins> shiggitay: elementary is not on topic here.
[21:05] <shiggitay> isn't elementary ubuntu-based though?
[21:05] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: which OS is going where and what size are each again?
[21:05] <ikonia> shiggitay: it's not ubuntu though
[21:05] <pragmaticenigma> !elementary
[21:05] <daftykins> shiggitay: yes, but they have their own problems.
[21:05] <shiggitay> okay fair enough
[21:05] <shiggitay> thanks
[21:05] <Newyorkadam> theadmin: what’s the {*,.*}?
[21:05] <theadmin> Newyorkadam: bash magic. * matches all normal files, .* matches all hidden files
[21:06] <theadmin> Newyorkadam: So we combine both of those and
[21:06] <theadmin> Match all files
[21:06] <O_OniGiri> sda (hdd 500gb) would be my /home, sdb (ssd 128gb) would be my /
[21:06] <lustic_> jordan - /dev/sda4:Debian GNU/Linux (Kali Linux 1.0.9):Debian:linux
[21:07] <O_OniGiri> swap would also be on my hdd
[21:07] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia: it's finished...
[21:07] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: ? and
[21:07] <lustic_> ?
[21:07] <RedheadedCupcake> it was removed
[21:07] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: is this machine accessible enough that you could pop out the HDD for the install?
[21:07] <isifreek> How do I go about finding out how portable/standard a given util is?
[21:07] <ikonia> isifreek: what do you mean ?
[21:08] <lustic_> I installed another distro alongside Ubuntu, no grub menu appears upon boot,  someone already gave me the solution but I lost the page here and had to reconnect : /  care to answer?
[21:08] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: I would have to check. BTW off topic, what irc
[21:08] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: 'what IRC' ?
[21:08] <O_OniGiri> daftykins nvm my off topic
[21:09] <isifreek> ikonia: like `id -u` is posix, but `whoami` is not. I only know that because i asked on IRC.
[21:09] <daftykins> that seemed like part of a question
[21:09] <lustic_> I installed another distro alongside ubuntu,  no grub menu appears upon boot,  how can I easily fix this ?
[21:09] <Newyorkadam> theadmin: mv: cannot move ‘/var/www/html/games/wordpress/..’ to ‘/var/www/html/games/..’: Device or resource busy
[21:09] <isifreek> ikonia: i've run into this many times. atm im trying to figure out `host` v `dig`
[21:09] <theadmin> Newyorkadam: You can't do that...
[21:09] <O_OniGiri> daftykins I wanted to ask if you know a nice irc for Android? since it's kinda hard to read for me
[21:09] <ikonia> isifreek: what do you mean host v dig ?
[21:09] <ikonia> isifreek: what is the actual problem ?
[21:10] <Newyorkadam> theadmin: I typed in whta you told me to
[21:10] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: i've only ever used andchat before, if we're talking clients.
[21:10] <theadmin> Newyorkadam: Ah, never mind, just ignore that, that's to be expected
[21:10] <theadmin> Newyorkadam: The files should have been moved anyway.
[21:10] <isifreek> ikonia: they do the same thing essentially (like `ip` and `route` but route is deprecated which I only know because I asked on IRC lol)
[21:10] <ikonia> isifreek: so what's the problem ?
[21:11] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: another question, do you type my name if you reply? or is there another way?  sorry for off topic
[21:11] <Newyorkadam> theadmin: they were! thanks :D
[21:11] <Newyorkadam> why did I get that error?
[21:11] <isifreek> ikonia: how do i find out the diff without having to ask on irc and wait for a response?
[21:11] <theadmin> Newyorkadam: .* also matches .., that is, the parent directory
[21:11] <tytan> I have a PC with a Core 2 Quad and Zotac nVidia GT 720. I can't install the graphics driver :(
[21:11] <isifreek> and by "the diff" i mean: which one should i use and why
[21:11] <ikonia> isifreek: what do you mean "the diff" ?? they are different commands
[21:11] <ikonia> isifreek: use whatever YOU like to do the job you want to get done
[21:11] <theadmin> Newyorkadam: But, eh... It can't move the parent directory while operating on its child so that's still safe
[21:11] <Newyorkadam> theadmin: alright, thanks. want a tip in bitcoin?
[21:11] <ikonia> isifreek: there is general info on the web
[21:11] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: i hit o, then tab
[21:11] <theadmin> Newyorkadam: No, Bitcoin is illegal in my country. Thanks though
[21:12] <Newyorkadam> yep. russia?
[21:12] <CtrlAltDelicious> Hey everyone
[21:12] <theadmin> Yeah.
[21:12] <stoogenmeyer> hi! I've got an issue that upon coming back from suspend my laptop will sometimes have a very dim screen which cant be brightened up using the brightness control, and sometimes it comes back normally. furthermore, if i reboot it, it will be back to normal. also if I'm connecting and disconnecting to an external monitor it sometimes will solve the issue as well. Can someone help me to solve this issue without having to reboot
[21:12] <stoogenmeyer>  the computer??
[21:12] <Newyorkadam> haha :p thanks again
[21:12] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia: it says that it was uninstalled successfull
[21:12] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: yes, you've said that a few times
[21:12] <isifreek> ikonia: that's def not a satisfactory answer. i suppose i'll just go back to googling :/ i was hoping there was some compatibility reference or something that said where common utils were made (and why if there are other common utils that do the same thing)
[21:13] <daftykins> lustic_: did you ask them to help you unbreak the damage their distro did? :P
[21:13] <RedheadedCupcake> ikonia: now what do we do/
[21:13] <ikonia> isifreek: that is the realistic answer
[21:13] <ikonia> RedheadedCupcake: what ever you want - I didn't want you to uninstall anything, you wanted to do that, so you take it forward as you see best
[21:13] <O_OniGi61> oki
[21:13] <CtrlAltDelicious> Hey everyone, question about an app I’m having difficulty compiling.
[21:14] <daftykins> CtrlAltDelicious: still waiting for it... :)
[21:14] <CtrlAltDelicious> lol daftykins
[21:14]  * daftykins does a drumroll
[21:14] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, did you enable the Partner repo
[21:14] <lustic_> daftykins :  ask who ? Ubuntu runs just fine, the other distro is installed on sda4 just fine, the grub menu just doesn't appear,
[21:14] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon i didn't see anything about 3rd party anythings
[21:14] <isifreek> ikonia: if i followed that, i'd be using `route` right now because i prefer it... `route` is deprecated.
[21:15] <ikonia> isifreek: it's still there though
[21:15] <ikonia> isifreek: you can use route just fine
[21:15] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, in the menu in the software centre, click on Edit -> Software Sources. Another way to access it would be to open your updater and click on Settings
[21:15]  * isifreek facepalms
[21:15] <O_OniGiri> ok...  I am back on my tablet
[21:15] <isifreek> ikonia: what's the point of deprecation then??? lol
[21:15] <CtrlAltDelicious> daftykins: Im trying to compile hping3 from source... Im getting the following error when doing make:
[21:15] <ikonia> isifreek: it means it's going to be removed and replaced
[21:16] <CtrlAltDelicious> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/P8g8xhcU
[21:16] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon going to go updater route checking now
[21:16] <CtrlAltDelicious> i do have libpcap installed
[21:16] <isifreek> ikonia: so you shouldnt use it in new scripts! lol
[21:16] <O_OniGiri>  daftykins I just used my recovery drive
[21:16] <Seveas> CtrlAltDelicious: why not simply install the hping3 package?
[21:16] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon what tab would that option be under
[21:16] <ikonia> isifreek: you can use it just fine
[21:16] <CtrlAltDelicious> Seveas: Oh?
[21:17] <r22ere> why have there been so many Ubuntu base updates over the past couple of days
[21:17] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, 3rd party software or something similar sounding
[21:17] <hoogeveen> jhutchins no, i didn't create the boot media with unetbootin.  i just unpacked the iso into a dir that is available via nfs
[21:17] <isifreek> ikonia: I basically want this answer for all utils so that I dont have to ask all the time: http://www.quora.com/Bash-shell/What-are-the-differences-between-host-dig-and-nslookup-and-when-should-I-use-each
[21:17] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: err, to do what?
[21:17] <ikonia> isifreek: you're not going to get it in here
[21:17] <ikonia> isifreek: thats called research and different distros use different packages - so it's not always "true" for ubuntu
[21:17] <CtrlAltDelicious> wow
[21:17] <CtrlAltDelicious> Seveas: Didnt even know that was in APT
[21:17] <ikonia> isifreek: again - hence why I say use what you are comfortable with/gets the job done
[21:17] <hoogeveen> ikonia i don't know how the installer works to pull stuff over.  it is anaconda
[21:17] <Seveas> CtrlAltDelicious: always check that first :-)
[21:18] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: reinstall Windows
[21:18] <CtrlAltDelicious> Seveas: LMAO  << Dumb ass
[21:18] <CtrlAltDelicious> thanks bro
[21:18] <CtrlAltDelicious> done...
[21:18] <ikonia> hoogeveen: anaconda has many options
[21:18] <isifreek> ikonia: ya, but some packages are *special* and you'd think thered be a list somewhere.
[21:18]  * isifreek just wants to meet someone who knows of one.
[21:18] <hoogeveen> i specify nfs in the kickstart file
[21:18] <ikonia> isifreek: no they are not
[21:18] <ikonia> isifreek: there is no "special" packages
[21:18] <isifreek> ikonia: id
[21:18] <ikonia> id ?
[21:19] <RedheadedCupcake> Kostkon all of the boxes are checked under Ubuntu Software tab
[21:19] <isifreek> you can have expectations of it being there on pretty much any system
[21:19] <ikonia> isifreek: and ?
[21:19] <r22ere> does Ubuntu have greater user privacy then Debian?
[21:19] <isifreek> ikonia: and that is not an assumption you can make about, say, route
[21:19] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, that's now the one.
[21:19] <Seveas> r22ere: no.
[21:19] <kostkon> not*
[21:19] <ikonia> isifreek: so ?
[21:19] <r22ere> Seveas, why doesn't it
[21:20] <Seveas> r22ere: why should it?
[21:20] <isifreek> isifreek: so therefore, id is specialer
[21:20] <ikonia> isifreek: it's not special at all
[21:20] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon what now?
[21:20] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: oh are you going to reinstall both from scratch?
[21:20] <ikonia> isifreek: you could use "getent" instead of id
[21:20] <r22ere> Seveas, because people value their privacy?
[21:20] <ikonia> so you don't have to have id
[21:20] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, ok if you have enabled it then click on Close.
[21:20] <isifreek> ikonia: you could write everything in assembly
[21:21] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon It's closed and those boxes have been checked the whole time I've been dealing with this problem.
[21:21] <ikonia> isifreek: you're not making any sense
[21:21] <O_OniGiri> daftykins going to reinstall Windows first and afterwards I will try to unintelligible it again and install xubuntu, I know it doesn't make sense
[21:21] <RedheadedCupcake> Kostkon how do I get skype from the ubuntu repositories
[21:21] <Seveas> r22ere: but what makes you think Debian should be worse?
[21:21] <ikonia> !skype | RedheadedCupcake
[21:21] <O_OniGiri> uninstall*
[21:21] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, you could paste the output of    apt-cache policy skype
[21:22] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, for starters, do that
[21:23] <isifreek> ikonia: getent doesnt serve the same purpose as id. just like assembly doesnt serve the same purpose as tools people actually use for the purpose of writing programs...
[21:23] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon N: Unable to locate package skype
[21:23] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon remember we uninstalled it.
[21:23] <ikonia> isifreek: getent does the same thing as id
[21:23] <isifreek> regardless, youve answered my Q somewhere in there, so thanks anyways
[21:23] <isifreek> ikonia: then why does id exist?
[21:23] <ikonia> isifreek: they are just different / legacy / new options
[21:23] <ikonia> isifreek: hence "use what you like best"
[21:24] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, have a go at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/14629/how-do-i-enable-the-partner-repository
[21:24] <isifreek> ikonia: lol what if I like goto and eval best?
[21:24] <isifreek> ikonia: want me working on your OS?
[21:24] <ikonia> isifreek: thats just a stupid thing to say
[21:24] <ikonia> if you're not going to ask realistic questions and behave like this, you'll just get ignored
[21:24] <isifreek> ikonia: i'm going by your logic...
[21:24] <ikonia> isifreek: no, you're not
[21:25] <ikonia> isifreek: I'll make it simple
[21:25] <ikonia> isifreek: in linux there are often multiple commands to do the same thing, use the one you like the best
[21:25] <r22ere> can Microsoft Office for Apple computers work on Ubuntu?
[21:25] <ikonia> this isn't "programming loops" or anything smart like that, it's just personal preference
[21:25] <daftykins> r22ere: no
[21:25] <ikonia> r22ere: no
[21:25] <r22ere> that sucks
[21:25] <mojtaba> Hi, I have recently bought a thinkpad T440s, and I have shrunken the Windows partition, but when I try to install ubuntu on that free partition, it says there is no partition table. Do you know what should I do? (UEFI is enabled in the BIOS too)
[21:26] <isifreek> ikonia: ok, I will. just please dont recommend that to noobs.
[21:26] <ikonia> isifreek: recommend what ?
[21:26] <r22ere> mojtaba, what is the free partition formated to
[21:26] <daftykins> mojtaba: you might be booting in the wrong mode, do you see the EFI menu (white writing on black background) or the legacy menu? (purple)
[21:26] <Jordan_U> isifreek: POSIX is a standard for various commands and interfaces for *NIX systems, Linux Standards Base is a standard that tries to define a common base for Linux systems. Neither are ever followed completely (moreso LSB than POSIX), for example LSB dictates that RPM be the package management system in use. These are useful resourses, but by no means a complete answer (there is no single place to find portability ...
[21:26] <Jordan_U> ... information). Also, manual pages often tell where a command originated, and give some information about portability to other systems.
[21:26] <mojtaba> r22ere: ext4
[21:27] <mojtaba> daftykins: I am now in the BIOS setup
[21:27] <hoogeveen> under "missing features" in the auto install doc, it states that it doesn't support: Installation from an archive on a local hard disk or from an NFS archive.
[21:27] <isifreek> Jordan_U: ahh, I did not know about LSB, thank you! who specifies that? linux foundation?
[21:28] <daftykins> hoogeveen: meh, that page is probably ancient. tried #ubuntu-server ?
[21:28] <mojtaba> daftykins: secure boot is disabled
[21:28] <hoogeveen> so, i was thinking that I can't pass an nfs location to it and have it install.   in any event, with the same install set up, it keeps barfing on a missing cd
[21:28] <O_OniGiri> daftykins I am going to reinstall xubuntu now
[21:28] <hoogeveen> no, i can go there.
[21:28] <daftykins> mojtaba: that was unnecessary
[21:28] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon, did what that said
[21:28] <mojtaba> daftykins: UEFI/Legacy Boot: UEFI Only
[21:28] <hoogeveen> thanks, daftykins
[21:29] <daftykins> hoogeveen: np
[21:29] <mojtaba> daftykins: CSM Support: Yes
[21:29] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, try giving apt-cache policy skype   again
[21:29] <mojtaba> daftykins: I will enable then the secure boot
[21:29] <daftykins> mojtaba: you didn't really answer whether you booted the flash drive or install media as EFI or legacy
[21:29] <daftykins> !efi | mojtaba
[21:30] <mojtaba> daftykins: I booted from the USB disk
[21:30] <O_OniGiri> daftykins does it matter that my SSD is indicated as sdb and my HDD is indicated with sda?
[21:30] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon: Installed: (none)
[21:30] <daftykins> mojtaba: yes but there are two modes of boot, legacy and EFI. follow the above factoid link to see the two images that show the difference
[21:30] <isifreek> ikonia: I suppose I can refine *special* now to mean an element of LSB (better) or POSIX (best). and by "better" and "best" i mean likelihood of finding them on a randomly selected OS.
[21:30] <nodeman> How can i successfully rebuild initramfs while using raid5, Full disk encryption, lvm? My system fails to boot at first it could not find evms_activate and after chroot+ update-initramfs it says it cannot find root?? Please help me:)
[21:30] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: yeah it matters depending on which way around you want the install to happen
[21:30] <Newyorkadam> what are my ftp details?
[21:31] <Jordan_U> isifreek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Standard_Base , yes it's a working group "under the organizational structure of the Linux Foundation".
[21:31] <O_OniGiri> how do I make ssd sda?
[21:31] <Newyorkadam> how do I find them?
[21:31] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, ok now either use the software centre or the terminal to install it, which is faster. Just give   sudo apt-get install skype
[21:31] <ikonia> isifreek: nothing you just said changed anything
[21:31] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: if you are nuking both disks then putting Windows on the start of the HDD, then putting ubuntu on the SSD for / and HDD for /home, it'll be pretty important yes
[21:31] <O_OniGiri> daftykins so should my SSD be sda? I do not need Windows, only xubuntu
[21:32] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: oh there's no windows install at all? i thought you were after a dualboot
[21:32] <O_OniGiri> daftykins no just Linux only
[21:32] <nodeman>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[21:32] <daftykins> Newyorkadam: you don't have any. you're seeing that on wordpress 'cause you've not configured the web server correctly :)
[21:32] <Ben64> O_OniGiri: it doesn't really matter what is sda and what is sdb
[21:32] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: ah ok. yeah ideally you want the SSD to show up first.
[21:33] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon installing now
[21:33] <O_OniGiri> daftykins and if it isn't? how do I fix it?
[21:33] <Newyorkadam> daftykins: no, wordpress is working fine
[21:33] <Newyorkadam> I need FTP or FTPS info to install a plugin
[21:33] <mojtaba> daftykins: I am following that link. thanks
[21:34] <mojtaba> daftykins: I will ask your help, if needed.
[21:34] <Sia-> hi guys
[21:34] <nodeman> hello
[21:34] <nodeman> Sia-: do you know the linux boot process in great detail?
[21:35] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon that did not fix the problem. still can hear and the mic doesn't work
[21:35] <Sia-> yes nodeman
[21:35] <daftykins> Newyorkadam: no, you don't understand. seeing that FTP details page when trying to install a theme, update or plugin show's you've set it up wrong. they are capable of being auto downloaded.
[21:35] <O_OniGiri> daftykins how do I make ssd sda?
[21:35] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: well the easiest way would be to remove the HDD then install :)
[21:35] <Ben64> O_OniGiri: why does it matter?
[21:36] <nodeman> Sia-: Maybe you can tell me why my system does not boot then. It cannot find root after updateing initramfs i have raid5, full disk encryption and lvm
[21:36] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, ok   what kind of audio setup have you got. Is this a laptop or a desktop with an external mic etc
[21:36] <daftykins> Ben64: it messed up before, didn't really get to the reason as to why
[21:36] <O_OniGiri> ben64: daftykins says so :p
[21:36] <nodeman> Sia-: I would be really happy if I can get some clue:)
[21:36] <Ben64> ubuntu has no problems installing to sdb or sdc or sdz if it exists
[21:36] <O_OniGiri> daftykins but if I remove hdd, I actually want /home to be on the hdd
[21:36] <isifreek> ikonia: agree to disagree
[21:36] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: yeah that can be setup later
[21:37] <Newyorkadam> daftykins: what have I set up wrong? mysql?
[21:37] <Sia-> nodeman check the log files
[21:37] <O_OniGiri> daftykins or do I need to reinstall afterwards again?
[21:37] <Sia-> of  bootings
[21:37] <daftykins> Ben64: oh i remember now, seems O_OniGiri's system EFI refuses to boot off anything but the SSD (auto) only manual menu works
[21:37] <Sia->  !tell nodeman boot
[21:37] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: nah you can boot in then reconfigure it.
[21:37] <nodeman> okey, thanks I will look into them now
[21:38] <O_OniGiri> daftykins kk
[21:38] <O_OniGiri> , daftykins I am going to check if I can get the hdd out
[21:38] <O_OniGiri> brb
[21:39] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon it's a HP ProBook 4430s
[21:40] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon the weird thing is that I used to have 14.04 and put Win 7 on to dual boot, remembered that I hate windows, so I wiped it all and put 14.04 LTS on it again, anyway, when I had it the first time Skype worked fine.
[21:41] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, in your audio settings does it say virtual device or pulseaudio server
[21:41] <roaet> whee ubuntu! Anyone know how to DELETE a network interface? I expected ifconfig XXX down to work. It doesn't DELETE it from the list.
[21:41] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, ok
[21:41] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon in skype?
[21:41] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, yes, sorry, in skype's audio settings
[21:41] <daftykins>  roaet what are you hoping to achieve? there's no need to get rid of one.
[21:42] <pragmaticenigma> roaet, disabled is all you can do. unless you physically remove the device from the computer, you can't delete it
[21:42] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon WELL it says PulseAudio server now
[21:42] <roaet> daftykins: I have a VPN script that is reconfiguring routes based on a well-known interface (utun0). sometimes that interface is there but isn't connected to VPN. I'd like to remove it from the list so I can change the routes AFTER connecting.. not before.
[21:42] <RedheadedCupcake> before it said virtual device
[21:43] <roaet> pragmaticenigma: it is a virtual device.. maybe a tunnel (i start getting confused there)
[21:43] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, that's good  could you just now call the skype call test service and test it out again?
[21:43] <pragmaticenigma> ah, that makes better sense
[21:43] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon i'm making the test call now
[21:43] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, ok
[21:43] <RedheadedCupcake> kostkon BAM IT WORKS THANK YOU MY DEAR
[21:44] <kostkon> RedheadedCupcake, no probs :)
[21:45] <roaet> pragmaticenigma: so the VPN waits for the RSA token and all that because the interface appears after RSA token is accepted (as expected). Then the routes on that VPN are changed. Sometimes that interface is present before the RSA dialog even appears and the script changes the routes on it (which messes up a lot of things).
[21:45] <roaet> I don't honestly know how to 'check' if the VPN is connected other than polling on ifconfig.
[21:46] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: awesome, hdd was really is to remove
[21:46] <pragmaticenigma> roaet, is it possible to put a delay in the script to wait longer?
[21:46] <roaet> But if the interface is still in ifconfig (even though it is down, disconnected, or shouldn't be there) then it gets confused.
[21:46] <O_OniGiri> daftykins will now do a install of xubuntu
[21:46]  * pragmaticenigma has to go now... I wish I could stay
[21:48] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: sounds good!
[21:48] <Guest70399>  does any one know how to use bluefish editor ?
[21:49] <daftykins> Guest70399: you asked this earlier and were told to consult their support...
[21:49] <Guest70399> coulnt find any info that help me
[21:49] <daftykins> if a product has direct support - why try and ask the OS?
[21:50] <Guest70399>  want to split view html code as well as browser
[21:50] <daftykins> Guest70399: tried http://bfwiki.tellefsen.net/index.php/Manual_2_ToC ?
[21:50] <O_OniGiri> daftykins so after installation I should try to reboot again so suppose right and see if it works? afterwards install hdd again and reboot again to see if it works?
[21:50] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: that's right, and if it boots happily we can then setup /home on the HDD
[21:51] <O_OniGiri> daftykins I actually only wanted to use 30gb for /
[21:51] <O_OniGiri> and on the hdd I wanted to have 12gb swap 12gb /var and 200gb /home
[21:52] <Guest70399> daftykins,  doest say how,....thx anyhow
[21:52] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: keeping the swap on there will make things faster too, is it swap you want rid of?
[21:52] <O_OniGiri> I read that swap isn't really needed, therefore I wanted to have swap on my hdd
[21:53] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: that's fair enough, you could do the partitioner stage manually and select / only, then setup swap later too
[21:54] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: let's hope this method will work
[21:59] <lustic_> I cannot seem to figure out why my other distro will not boot after selecting it from the grub menu ?
[22:00] <chinkese> lustic_: what's your other distro
[22:00] <O_OniGiri> daftykins
[22:00] <Jordan_U> lustic_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/ && ls /mnt/boot/".
[22:00] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: ja?
[22:00] <lustic_> Kali linux,
[22:00] <O_OniGiri> daftykins do you have the guide for partitioning?
[22:01] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: all you have to do is select to create a single ext4 / partition
[22:01] <O_OniGiri> daftykins installation almost finished, where do I select what?
[22:01] <lustic_> jordan_U : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752292/
[22:01] <Jordan_U> lustic_: Also, please use my full nick in your messages to me, or they won't be highlighted in my client. You can use your tab key to auto-complete nicknames.
[22:01] <chinkese> 肏你祖宗十八代
[22:02] <lustic_> jordan, i' dont exactly remember how too PM like that,
[22:02] <lustic_> your name then a semicolon ?
[22:02] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: way too late for that, it's way back at the 'select where to install' sort of stage
[22:02] <O_OniGiri> daftykins AHHH...  well I will just reinstall after I installed the hdd
[22:03] <Jordan_U> lustic_: There is no PM needed, just include my nick in your message. The normal convention is "nickname: Message goes here", but it doesn't really matter that much as long as the nick is in there somewhere.
[22:03] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: that won't help 'cause it'll be seen as sda again and the SSD as sdb ;)
[22:03] <O_OniGiri> daftykins so I will have to reinstall now?
[22:03] <lustic_> Jordan_U:  ahh i see tab makes it easy  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752292/
[22:04] <Jordan_U> lustic_: Great. Please pastebin the output of "sudo update-grub" and the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[22:04] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: mmm just see if it boots off the SSD with only it plugged in right now, the rest can be resolved
[22:04] <O_OniGiri> daftykins still no bootable image found :(
[22:05] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: hang on lets consult the great master of booting...
[22:06] <daftykins> Jordan_U: have you encountered these HP systems that seem locked to booting from only the SSD in an SSD and HDD setup - plus all boot choices inside the EFI don't work, but a boot menu selection does? O_OniGiri seems to have a real challenge ahead
[22:07] <Jordan_U> daftykins: I don't think I've encountered this specifically before.
[22:07] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | O_OniGiri
[22:08] <lustic_> Jordan_U:  sudo update-grub = http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752311/     and contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg = http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752318/
[22:08] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: Please also pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr" (you can do this from an Ubuntu LiveDVD/USB).
[22:08] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U will do
[22:10] <Jordan_U> lustic_: Please pastebin your /etc/default/grub .
[22:11] <mojtaba> daftykins: It is booted in the EFI mode
[22:11] <lustic_> Jordan_U:  /etc/default/grub = http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752326/
[22:11] <daftykins> mojtaba: the USB installer originally was?
[22:11] <Jordan_U> lustic_: Right now your grub.cfg is configured to wait 10 seconds at a blank (purple) screen for you to press a key, and if you do the grub menu will be shown. Is that what you want?
[22:12] <mojtaba> daftykins:  I downloaded the 64bit version 14.04 LTS and made a bootable usb disk. (The booting screen is black)
[22:12] <lustic_> Jordan_U:  my grub menu works, I solved the issue with that, it now shows Ubuntu aswell as kali,  my issue now is kali appears to begin to boot and such and just ends up on a blank black scree,
[22:13] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U can i install my HDD btw?
[22:13] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: I haven't read all of the scrollback yet, but I think that should be fine.
[22:13] <hr9999> Hello. Is it possible to partition disks in a more precise way than MB (also, are these binary or decimal?) during installation? perhaps with the text-based installer?
[22:13] <daftykins> mojtaba: ok so it booted in EFI mode? can you start it up again and run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" ?
[22:14] <eggbeater> hr9999: I don't think so
[22:14] <Jordan_U> lustic_: That sounds like a problem with Kali. Please ask in #kali-linux .
[22:14] <mojtaba> daftykins: Yes, so I should use live ubuntu? and run that command?
[22:14] <daftykins> mojtaba: yep
[22:14] <lustic_> Jordan_U: Yeah... No answer, : / but thanks : )
[22:15] <Jordan_U> hr9999: You don't want your partitions to be not MiB aligned, that will lead to horrible performance with modern hard drives.
[22:15] <hr9999> Jordan_U: okay, thought there might be something like that
[22:16] <hr9999> what is a bit confusing to me is why my swap partition changed from 8590MB to 8588
[22:16] <hr9999> perhaps some sectors went bad?
[22:17] <hr9999> still, 2MB, that might be reason for concern
[22:17] <mojtaba> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9752353
[22:17] <Jordan_U> hr9999: No, partitions don't change in size when sectors go bad. What do you mean by "changed" from when did it change?
[22:19] <hr9999> Jordan_U: I installed Xubuntu earlier and during installation allocated 8590MB of swap space (as close as possible to 8 binary GB in decimal MB)--I'm reinstalling, and I noticed that the partition is now 8588MB.
[22:23] <mojtaba> daftykins: Could you please tell me what should I do?
[22:23] <daftykins> mojtaba: yeah just been thinking about that paste. hmm bit of a weird setup, looks like it has a small SSD for cache.
[22:23] <Jordan_U> hr9999: I'm pretty sure that the installer uses Mibibytes rather than Megabytes. What is reporting that the partition is now "8588", and using what units?
[22:23] <mojtaba> daftykins: yes
[22:23] <hr9999> Jordan_U: MB
[22:24] <mojtaba> It is thinkpad T440S (The one without SSD)
[22:24] <hr9999> I partitioned from the installer
[22:24] <hr9999> and I just looked from the installer
[22:24] <hr9999> so it's the same units, I just don't know what those units are
[22:24] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: bootinfoscript RESULTS.txt: http://pastebin.com/XeWxJkDs, sudo efibootmgr: http://pastebin.com/AzT24J5X
[22:24] <hr9999> 1e6B or 2^20B
[22:25] <kostkon> hr9999, there's a wiki page just for that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnitsPolicy
[22:25] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: thanks for trying to help me :)
[22:25] <hr9999> kostkon: Thank you
[22:25] <hr9999> eh, maybe I just typed it wrong, who knows
[22:26] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: hang on that shows both disks again... you did try to boot with just the SSD in right?
[22:26] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: yeah, but Jordan_U told me it was fine again to install my HDD
[22:27] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: ah ok sorry, just wasn't following close enough
[22:27] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: Hopefully you can help me out, I have literally spend like 6 hours already trying to google :(
[22:27] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: no need to apologize, you already spend a lot time trying to help me :) thanks
[22:28] <mojtaba> daftykins: shop.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops/thinkpad/t-series/t440s
[22:28] <daftykins> my pleasure
[22:29] <daftykins> mojtaba: i would maybe try reinstalling now that secure boot is back on - then share the exact error as and if/when it comes. so run the installer and delete the partition, then setup again
[22:29] <mojtaba> daftykins: sure. thanks
[22:30] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: I'm pretty busy with other things at the moment, so I may just drop out at any time. I should be back tomorrow if nothing else though.
[22:30] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: oh ok, no problem. Probably I will reinstall Windows in the meantime
[22:31] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: When you boot normally, what happens? Does Windows boot?
[22:31] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: No I get a message that says: no bootable image was found
[22:32] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: just to be clear, I am not using dual boot.
[22:32] <daftykins> did we try every boot menu entry again with just the SSD in?
[22:34] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: I did try that
[22:35] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: Try this "sudo mkdir -p /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/ && sudo cp /boot/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI". This should make sdb bootable as a removable drive (which shouldn't be needed, since you have the proper UEFI boot entry, but might help anyway).
[22:36] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: Afterwards reboot?
[22:36] <jafa> us.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down via ipv6. responds to ipv4 and other country mirrors are working
[22:37] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: Getting following message in terminal: cp: cannot stat ‘/boot/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi’: No such file or directory
[22:38] <jafa> can't install ubuntu if I tell it to use US (default) download site
[22:38] <jafa> likewise can't update existing installs
[22:39] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: Could that error message be the problem? Incorrect UEFI installation?
[22:40] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: I do have all .efi files in the following directory: /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[22:45] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: Sorry, I just gave you the wrong path.
[22:45] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: So what do I have to do?
[22:45] <rocko> hello ubuntu woril
[22:45] <rocko> world
[22:46] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI
[22:46] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: Afterwards reboot?
[22:46] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: Yes.
[22:46] <O_OniGiri> ok, brb
[22:46] <rocko> can anyone help me with a problem with ubuntu on a dell 670?   no internet connection found?
[22:48] <Turingi> hello is gpg --gen-key broken momentarily for ubuntu 13.04? gnome's Seahorse GUI also does not work
[22:48] <Turingi> gpg --gen-key stalls, asks for 'more entropy' once, then stalls after that
[22:48] <Turingi> and Seahorse gui does not generate anything and displays nothing after you click to create a new pgp key
[22:49] <Turingi> you input the key characteristics and click 'generate' and it does nothing
[22:49] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: I am back, unfortunately it didnt work :(
[22:49] <Jordan_U> Turingi: Ubuntu 13.04 is EOL, it's no longer supported and is insecure. Please upgrade to a supported release.
[22:50] <rocko> can anyone help with ubuntu on dell 670 no internet connectiomn?
[22:50] <Turingi> Jordan_U: oh, I meant 14.04 (LTS)
[22:50] <Rory> Turingi: Take a look here http://askubuntu.com/a/330684
[22:50] <daftykins> rocko: laptop? no wireless i take it, working wired?
[22:50] <Rory> Turingi: The problem persists across a reboot, I assume?
[22:51] <rocko> no its a dell perision 670 sever workstation wired
[22:51] <daftykins> rocko: "lspci" to try and identify the adapter
[22:51] <Turingi> Rory: will try reboot later, I was just wondering if there were similar reports of this problem
[22:52] <rocko> someone mentioned ubuntu didnt support the dell drivers or somthing
[22:52] <Turingi> this is in the context of the 31c3 talk decrying the opaqueness of gpg in general :p
[22:52] <Turingi> and user-unfriendliness
[22:52] <rocko> iv had ubuntu and mint on a dell desktop  no prombles
[22:53] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: :( . Please file a bug report with "ubuntu-bug grub-efi", and subscribe me (JordanU) to it.
[22:53] <rocko> i got this server for 25 and had windows 7 but the harddrive died and imjust wanting to to teach myself
[22:53] <mojtaba> daftykins: It did not realized there is windows installed, and I selected manually installing. Now it does not allow me to make a new partition on that free partition!
[22:55] <Turingi> is there a way to get a live counter of the quantity of entropy that gpg gathers during key generation?
[22:55] <Turingi> to see if it's indeed stalling or just going very very slow
[22:56] <daftykins> rocko: yeah still need the device from 'lspci' in the terminal. not going to get anywhere without
[22:56] <daftykins> mojtaba: hmm, is fastboot on?
[22:56] <rocko> brb
[22:56] <mojtaba> daftykins: I think yes
[22:56] <k1l_> Turingi: using seahorse with 4096bit key?
[22:56] <Turingi> k1l_: yes
[22:57] <Sioclya> I have a bit of an odd problem with Ubuntu (running KDE Plasma 5). When running the open source drivers, I can't configure mutlple displays because apparently the system doesn't load the correct driver for my graphics card (radeonsi, AMD HD7950/Tahiti Pro)
[22:57] <Turingi> k1l_: seahorse also behaves the same for the 2K keys
[22:57] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: Where do I need to do that?
[22:57] <k1l_> Turingi: took "some time". iirc it was something like 2-5 minutes
[22:57] <Turingi> k1l_: once you're past the key parameters menu and click 'generate' there is no error, nothing else, it's as if nothing happens and no new keys appear
[22:58] <mojtaba> daftykins: Boot mode is Quick, the other option is Diagnostics
[22:58] <Turingi> k1l_: it should at least have some sliding bar saying "generating"
[22:58] <k1l_> Turingi: yes, that just takes some time now.
[22:58] <jafa> hmmm... us.archive.ubuntu.com works via another ISP. traceroute6 shows it losing the plot after going through xo.net
[22:58] <k1l_> i would like to have a message there too. i was confused as if the key is now generated or the program just crashed
[23:00] <Turingi> k1l_: is it possible Seahorse it just hogging all the system entropy trying to create about a dozen 4K keys at once?
[23:00] <kirkland> Turingi: you can watch the available entropy in your system with: watch cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail
[23:00] <kirkland> Turingi: creating a single 4K key takes A TON of entropy
[23:00] <rocko> dayfkins: ok what do you need form lspci?
[23:01] <k1l_> Turingi: it takes some time. just use the system for what you need and be happy when its ready :)
[23:01] <mojtaba> daftykins: Should I change that?
[23:01] <Turingi> kirkland: Seahorse should give me pop-up saying "generating" or a means to cancel a key being generated at the moment
[23:01] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: How can I subscribe you to the bug filing?
[23:01] <daftykins> mojtaba: i'm not 100% sure it's the thing i am thinking of really
[23:02] <kirkland> Turingi: you can sudo apt-get install haveged too, if you like
[23:02] <kirkland> Turingi: it's a pretty good entropy generator
[23:02] <rocko> intel coropration 82545gm gigabit controller
[23:02] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: It's an option near the top right of the launchpad page for the bug.
[23:02] <mojtaba> daftykins: there is no other option about booting. I will change it and try again. I will keep you updated
[23:02] <Turingi> kirkland: that's a pseudo-rng, right? there is no entropy about it at all :)
[23:03] <kirkland> Turingi: do you have a hardware rng?
[23:03] <Turingi> kirkland: probably
[23:03] <Turingi> kirkland: AMD FX 6300 CPU
[23:04] <rocko> dafykins: intel corp 82545gm gigabit ethernet controller
[23:05] <gabb0> Hi.  Any advice on how to use ethtool to diagnose whether a NIC is faulty?  In Windows we had issues but live ubuntu I don't.  However, I don't know what I can do with ethrool to determine NIC health.  I tried ethtool -t ethX offline(and online) and it comes back PASS.  Is this suffice?
[23:05] <Turingi> kirkland: oops, apparently watching entropy_avail consumes entropy, gpg told me it needed 205 more bytes of entropy and after that it told me it needed 250 more bytes
[23:05] <Sioclya> basically, I'm wondering how to force the system to use radeonsi for the first PCI device
[23:06] <mojtaba> daftykins: It says again, No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu.
[23:06] <mojtaba> daftykins: Do you know what should I do?
[23:07] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: In what package did you find this bug?
[23:07] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: grub2?
[23:07] <Turingi> talk at 31C3: "Why is GPG 'damn near unusable'?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gz9TBt-DAQ
[23:07] <kirkland> Turingi: catting /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail most certainly does not consume entropy
[23:07] <kirkland> Turingi: catting /dev/random, most certainly would
[23:07] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: "grub2" is the correct source package, yes.
[23:08] <daftykins> mojtaba: can you screenshot?
[23:08] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: I dont see an option where I can subscribe you
[23:08] <daftykins> rocko: and which ubuntu did you install?
[23:08] <mojtaba> daftykins: It is on another machine. I do not know how to transfer the screenshot. :(
[23:08] <AgallochWork> Hello everyone. Have to flash my phone but at work i only have Ubuntu. While running command of SP Flash_tool, i am stuck on  flash_tool: Permission denied even i am using sudo or sudo su. What else can i do pls :/
[23:08] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: If you post the URL here I can subscribe myself.
[23:08] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: Ok, wait a sec
[23:09] <Jordan_U> AgallochWork: What is the exact command you ran? What guide are you following?
[23:09] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: Should I add the pastebins?
[23:09] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: Do you have the pastebins for me :)? Else I will have to remake them
[23:10] <Turingi> kirkland: how did the needed amount of entropy actually increase then?
[23:10] <AgallochWork> Jordan_U, there is no guide. I have to download SP_Flash_tools for Linux. I did. Unpacked it on my home directory. Then i ran a command sh flash_tool.sh from directory where this file and all other are. This gives me that output i wrote already
[23:11] <AgallochWork> Jordan_U, so i tryied sudo su, and again went to directory with file flash_tool.sh and ran again ./flash_tool.sh and it still gives me this output, about permissions
[23:11] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: Never mind I found them
[23:11] <rocko> dafykins: ubuntu 14.04 trusty
[23:11] <rocko> 14.04.1
[23:12] <daftykins> mojtaba: flash drive? does the live session not have working internet access?
[23:12] <Jordan_U> AgallochWork: There was no README.txt or INSTALL.txt with SPI_Flash_tools?
[23:12] <AgallochWork> Jordan_U, no, its binary file already, no install.tt or readme.txt (SP_Flash_Tool_exe_Linux_v5.1452.00.100 )
[23:12] <AgallochWork> Jordan_U, there is binary file, even i can give it executable flag, it doesnt work
[23:12] <daftykins> rocko: what interface names do you see if you type "ip a" ?
[23:13] <Sioclya> you know what, I'm just going to use fglrx instead, that'll do.
[23:16] <rocko> dafykins: 1: lo <loopback,up,lower_up> mtu 65536 qdisk noqueue state unknown group defualt   2: eht0 <broadcsast , multicast> mtu 1500 qdisk noop state DOWN group defualt qlen 1000
[23:16] <Turingi> kirkland, k1l_: well, thanks for the help, the key has been finally generated
[23:16] <Turingi> I am tempted to write a wrapper around gpg
[23:16] <Turingi> to give more feedback
[23:17] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: Not sure if I subscribed you, here is the link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1411017
[23:17] <daftykins> rocko: eth0 sounds like the wired. you sure you have a working cable in there / plugged in right?
[23:18] <daftykins> rocko: try "sudo ifup eth0" and "sudo dhclient eth0" if the cable is confirmed good
[23:21] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U & daftykins: Thanks for helping me!
[23:21] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U & daftykins : Hopefully I will get to fix this bug ASAP.
[23:24] <rocko> dafykins: yes
[23:25] <rocko> daftykins: yes a good cord / connection
[23:25] <rocko> daftykins: theres no eth0 under ifconfig if that helps
[23:26] <daftykins> even with -a?
[23:26] <daftykins> "ifconfig -a"
[23:26] <rocko> daftykins: with the -a  i see eth0
[23:28] <gabb0> Hi.  Any advice on how to use ethtool to diagnose whether a NIC is faulty?  In Windows we had issues but live ubuntu I don't.  However, I don't know what I can do with ethrool to determine NIC health.  I tried ethtool -t ethX offline(and online) and it comes back PASS.  Is this suffice?
[23:28] <undecim> Is it possible to have my package cache act as a mirror, so that other people on my lan can download packages without an internet connection?
[23:28] <daftykins> rocko: you ran the two commands then?
[23:29] <rocko> daftykins: the ip -a? yes i ran that
[23:29] <daftykins> gabb0: why do you think ubuntu would see something when it's only flawed in Windows? check Windows sees the MAC correctly
[23:29] <daftykins> rocko: no, "sudo ifup eth0" then "sudo dhclient eth0"
[23:32] <gabb0> daftykins, that's what I am trying to determine.  I believe it's win but wanted to know of ethtool(or something else in linux) can diag an ethernet adapter... that's all. :)
[23:33] <rocko> daftykins: sudo ifup eth0 = ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. sudo dhclient eth0 = rtnetlink answers: cannot assign requested address
[23:33] <daftykins> o0
[23:33] <bekks> ifconfig -a will show your existing interfaces.
[23:33] <hydrajump> if anyone has any ideas whether this is possible that would be awesome as I've tried all kinds of hacks but nothing works http://askubuntu.com/questions/573498/how-can-i-add-a-custom-python-indicator-to-the-unity-greeter-login-screen
[23:37] <daftykins> rocko: mmm i gotta call it a night now i'm afraid, i'll let someone else take over
[23:37] <rocko> ok thanks anyway
[23:38] <rocko> bekks: can you help with no internet connection ubuntu 14.04.1 on a dell perision 670 workstation?
[23:40] <bekks> rocko: Just run ifconfig -a to see which network interfaces were detected.
[23:41] <rocko> bekks: eth0 and lo   but dosent show ip   but localhost
[23:42] <trism> hydrajump: to get that to work you would likely have to modify unity-greeter, because prime is not an actual indicator, it is an appindicator...the appindicator indicator is that to show nm-applet but it gets started by unity-greeter execing it
[23:42] <trism> hydrajump: err I mean the appindicator indicator is there not that
[23:46] <DHD_> Whats the best irc client for Ubuntu?
[23:47] <bekks> DHD_: The one like most.
[23:47] <rocko> DHD_: not sure the best but i used hexchat
[23:47] <DHD_> bekks: thanks, we are getting there
[23:48] <rocko> bekks: anymore ideas?
[23:48] <DHD_> rocko: thanks, i'll check it out
[23:48] <rocko> bekks: internet worked with windows but harddrive went bad and now i got ubuntu and no internet
[23:49] <bekks> rocko: Is your eth0 a cabled or wifi interface?
[23:49] <cpt_yossarian> does anybody know why ~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg would suddenly be chmodded -rw?
[23:49] <rocko> bekks: cabled
[23:50] <bekks> rocko: And whats the output of "sudo dhclient eth0"?
[23:51] <rocko> bekks: rtnetlink anwsers  cannot assign requested address
[23:52] <bekks> rocko: And what does "sudo lshw -C network | grep product" give you?
[23:53] <rocko> bekks: sorry but how do i make the line after network?
[23:53] <X123> the line?
[23:54] <X123> u mean shift \ ?
[23:54] <X123> ||||||
[23:54] <rocko> x123: look at bekks reply
[23:54] <rocko> yes
[23:54] <rocko> oooo ok
[23:54] <X123> it's called a pipe symbol
[23:54] <rocko> |
[23:54] <X123> used in a lot of stuff
[23:54] <Bashing-om> rocko: O  an ASCII/qwerty keyboard ,, it is the upcase of the key above the 'enter' key .
[23:55] <X123> it's not always above the enter key :)
[23:55] <X123> i have some kbs where it's next to the backspace key and that really bothers me lol
[23:56] <nodeman> How can i obtain boot log files to debug my boot process when i have a full disc encryption setup (Just boot is unencrypted)
[23:56] <hydrajump> trism: oh. I thought that since the indicator showed when you log in that it would be possible to show it at the greeter as well. That was bad news :(
[23:56] <X123> nobody knows about weird tcp connection issues with 3.13+ huh
[23:56] <rocko> bekks: 82545GM gigabit ethernet controller
[23:57] <X123> intel gige controller
[23:57] <trism> hydrajump: it is possible you would just need to either recompile unity-greeter or convert prime into an actual indicator, the first is easier than the second
[23:58] <bekks> rocko: Do you have mii-tool installed? Or ethtool?
[23:59] <rocko> bekks: this is a fresh install no internet connection since install so if it didnt come with ubuntu i wouldnt have it and i dont know how to see if i have it or not
[23:59] <bekks> rocko: So please check wether you have one of the named tools :)