[00:38] <rio_zenta> Does anybody know how to create a panel when using a single stretched screen across 2 monitors? My first screen has a panel but the second screen doesnt
[00:40] <knome> rio_zenta, from panel properties, enable "span monitors"
[00:40] <knome> rio_zenta, or create a new panel from that dialog.
[00:42] <rio_zenta> knome, thanks. I was just tinkering and found it.
[00:43] <rio_zenta> is there no way to make 2 separate ones though?
[00:43] <knome> there is, just add a new panel from the top of that dialog
[00:43] <knome> there is no way to *copy* a panel so you'd have the exact same one from the GUI
[00:43] <knome> but you can definitely recreate it
[00:46] <rio_zenta> knome, I found a lot of people asking for an option where 2 workspaces are shared between 2 monitors
[00:47] <knome> right
[00:49] <rio_zenta> do you think it's possible?
[00:50] <rio_zenta> apart from launching 2 x-servers
[01:21] <knome> rio_zenta, yes, but you'll need to create two virtual desktops
[01:21] <knome> rio_zenta, i don't understand why people want it so badly though, in my opinion it doesn't bring much to the table and definitely isn't worth the hassle
[01:30] <rio_zenta> knome, how so? It creates the opportunity to treat each screen as a sort of "terminal", but with the added power of being able to share things across them.
[01:32] <knome> rio_zenta, i use a dual-screen setup and i never feel like i'd need that feature
[01:35] <rio_zenta> how is your dual-screen setup? knome
[01:36] <knome> how in what way?
[01:37] <rio_zenta> Do you have the main screen and then all other screens on a "stretched" display? eg. "to the right of" and "to the left of" ?
[01:37] <knome> yes, i have two similar monitors and they are one single virtual desktop
[01:38] <rio_zenta> aah interesting. I have settled for that for now. the laptop screen and external monitor
[04:01] <nw_nick> hi, I keep getting an error when mounting my DVD-ROM filesystem. The error I get is  this Error mounting /dev/sr0 at /media/macchina1/My Files: Command-line `mount -t "iso9660" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500" "/dev/sr0" "/media/myusername/My Files"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: /dev/sr0 is already mounted or 
[04:03] <nw_nick> I'm not using it and I can't mount it in any other way I tried
[04:04] <nw_nick> I'm currently using testdisk on a different device though, may it be its fault?
[04:10] <nw_nick> is anybody there please?
[10:16] <xubuntu27w> hi there
[10:17] <xubuntu27w> I've got a pro-blem with the update-manager after installing a fresh xubuntu 14.04
[10:18] <xubuntu27w> http://pastebin.com/rbtUR9Kp
[10:18] <xubuntu27w> here's the output.
[10:19] <xubuntu27w> if I try to re install (or even do a dpkg reconfigure) it fails to.
[10:21] <Unit193> xubuntu27w: Try  sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo apt-get install -f
[10:22] <xubuntu27w> ok
[10:24] <xubuntu27w> @Unit193: nope ... http://pastebin.com/71v6vsmy
[10:25] <xubuntu27w> I'm going mad- I've been trying to fix that for the past two hours :(
[10:25] <Unit193> Don't know how  you got into the mess, but I'd purge both notifier and manager, then install them.
[10:27] <xubuntu27w> Unit192: I tried that too and it says I can't do that because xubuntu-desktop depends on it
[10:27] <xubuntu27w> really really odd.
[10:27] <xubuntu27w> Never had that before
[10:28] <Luyin> xubuntu27w: perhaps your installation medium has been broken and led to that error?
[10:28] <xubuntu27w> @Luyin: but shouldn't the install simply fail then (and not go ahead?)
[10:29] <Luyin> not necessarily
[10:31] <xubuntu27w> hmmm... at the moment I am contemplating a re-install. But I've got shit to do :(
[10:34] <Luyin> xubuntu27w: personally, I'd do that too. it's the least messy solution. and you don't have to do it now, if you can still use the computer. or, you could use a live distro and work from that. but perhaps someone else's got another helpful idea.
[11:04] <xubuntu27w> Luyin, I sleep over that. It's just really annoying :(
[12:35] <xubuntu07w> hi
[14:46] <ochosi> sergio-br2: hey, just to let you know, i postponed all your workitems for elementary-xfce and released version 0.5, lemme know when/if you have time to contribute again
[14:46] <sergio-br2> cool
[14:47] <sergio-br2> yeah, I don't know when I will have time :p
[14:47] <sergio-br2> what work itens?
[14:49] <ochosi> https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce/issues
[14:49] <ochosi> mostly mimes and categories
[14:49] <ochosi> the webapps i won't work on anytime soon
[14:52] <sergio-br2> lol, i forgot it
[14:52] <sergio-br2> heh
[14:52] <sergio-br2> the only one I did was lua
[14:53] <sergio-br2> ah, it's for 0.6 now, nice
[14:53] <ochosi> you can still send a MR for that if it's ready
[14:53] <ochosi> so it isn't lost
[14:53] <sergio-br2> sorry for the absent all this time :p
[14:54] <sergio-br2> ok
[14:54] <ochosi> but yeah, i don't care about lua files too much tbh ;)
[14:54] <ochosi> no problem
[15:06] <xubuntu32w> hello
[15:07] <knome> hello
[15:07] <xubuntu32w> i need some help
[15:07] <knome> just ask the question and if somebody knows the answer, they'll most likely reply
[15:08] <superprower> Hi, how do i kill process in tty mode? TY for anwser
[15:09] <superprower> Installed quake, launched it, but now i can't exit :D exit option won't work
[15:09] <knome> superprower, kill pid
[15:09] <knome> where pid is the process id
[15:09] <knome> ps -A to list all pids
[15:09] <superprower> ty
[15:09] <xubuntu32w> my graphics is a 82855gm but my computer uses the standard vga adapter. Need to know how to install correct driver. Running Xubuntu 14.04
[15:09] <knome> ps -A | grep quake helps find quakes pid
[15:10] <xubuntu32w> my graphics is a 82855gm but my computer uses the standard vga adapter. Need to know how to install correct driver. Running Xubuntu 14.04
[15:10] <knome> xubuntu32w, please don't repeat, we heard the question
[15:11] <superprower> yeah, it's worked, thank's you
[15:12] <xubuntu32w> i have tried to install ppa but doesn't wrk
[15:13] <xubuntu32w> also installed mesa-utils cant find on my computer
[15:17] <xubuntu32w> anyone find an answer
[15:17] <xubuntu56w> I have a problem
[15:18] <xubuntu32w> speak issue and someone will help
[15:18] <cfhowlett> !ask | xubuntu56w
[15:20] <xubuntu56w> I did not found any HD player,now I play SMplayer,but sound and video up down 2 or 3 second,any one can said which one best..?
[15:21] <xubuntu56w> VLC not good for my PC
[17:28] <Shurhaian> Hello everybody. I've got an old Acer TravelMate laptop I've inherited and am trying to use for some basic word processing, but I can't get the wireless to connect despite ndiswrapper thinking it's working. Could anyone offer some help with that?
[17:32] <holstein> Shurhaian: depending on how "new" you are, i may just get a USB dongle that "works out of the box" in linux
[17:32] <holstein> !wifi
[17:32] <holstein> Shurhaian: using ndiswrapper can be a bit of a hack..
[17:32] <holstein> i have used it with success, but, ideally, you can use a linux driver, native linux driver
[17:33] <Shurhaian> ndiswrapper is installed, and the neti2220 driver THINKS the hardware is present. Hrm.
[17:33] <Shurhaian> But it doesn't see ANY networks despite me being in an apartment complex that's lousy with them (my smartphone sure sees them).
[17:33] <holstein> i say, if it has a network connection, wired, just plug that in and update the OS, and see if you are offered any drivers
[17:34] <holstein> Shurhaian: run lspci and ifconfig, as suggested at !wifi and look for the chipset, and search by that..
[17:34] <holstein> could be, its easy to use the device without the windows driver
[17:34] <Shurhaian> Ah well; getting new hardware is a bit beyond my means at present. I'll try letting it update, and see if that helps the OTHER problem I was having - namely, trying to install LibreOffice failed (turned up a bunch of 404s).
[17:34] <holstein> Shurhaian: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[17:35] <holstein> ^ you'll need to be connected to the internet.. wired, since you are having issues with the wireless setup
[17:35] <Shurhaian> Right, working through these. I haven't had a chance to get familiar with it yet, so I'm a bit slower than I otherwise might be. ^^;
[17:44] <Shurhaian> Hm. Nothing there that I can see about InProComm chips, that's regrettable.
[17:47] <Shurhaian> Erm... tried that sudo apt-get etc line, entered my password, and it eventually spit out: "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)" then "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?"
[17:49] <drc> Shurhaian: Did you sudo all <three> commands?
[17:49] <Shurhaian> Oh. You're right, I did not. Sorry.
[17:50] <Shurhaian> Alright, now it's proceeding.
[18:12] <Shurhaian> holstein: thanks for the help. It's at least installing Libreoffice now, which it wasn't before. Seems the ndiswrapper driver for this card just doesn't want to behave, I'll take the USB dongle suggestion under consideration.
[18:18] <daniel_____> hello?
[18:31] <fabio> xfce4-volumed: how to change the volume step size?
[18:31] <fabio> perhaps using the same alsamixer scale that is more proportional
[18:51] <fabio> this is a big deal with large speakers
[18:56] <fabio> (too loud volume from a step to one more)
[20:04] <xubuntu39w> hello, is there a way to have Xubuntu mount exFAT drives as well?
[20:04] <xubuntu39w> I get an error with an external hard disk, supposedly unknow filesystem
[20:05] <xubuntu39w> I read that you could install exfat-fuse but maybe it isn't necessary?
[20:10] <xubuntu39w> btw I can't really mount through exfat-fuse either..
[20:10] <xubuntu39w> ok, now the filemanager itself can.. I don't know why the terminal for mount.ex-fat doesn't
[20:16] <O_OniGiri> Hi there
[20:18] <O_OniGiri> Yesterday I received my new laptop (HP ZBook 14) pre installed with Windows 8.1 using UEFI. Today I removed Windows and tried installing xubuntu, but I am getting errors after installation.
[20:18] <O_OniGiri> I get an error message saying: No bootable image was found.
[20:18] <O_OniGiri> Please help me.
[20:19] <brainwash> !uefi
[20:19] <O_OniGiri> I already tried following that link.
[20:20] <O_OniGiri> Still getting same error.
[20:20] <brainwash> sadly I'm not that familiar with uefi
[20:23] <SuperPrower> Hello. I used to hear about terminal - multi-window like programm, but i can't find it know. Anybody heard about something like this? It's not realy multi-window, it's terminals in terminal
[20:23] <brainwash> google returns some search results which indicate that HP's uefi implementation is somewhat broken
[20:23] <brainwash> O_OniGiri: I assume that you've already searched the interwebs, right?
[20:23] <O_OniGiri> yeah
[20:24] <SuperPrower> It's not the terminal, it's terminal programm*
[20:24] <brainwash> O_OniGiri: I suggest that you ask in #ubuntu also, because it's not a xubuntu specific issue
[20:24] <O_OniGiri> will try brainwash,  thanks
[20:25] <brainwash> SuperPrower: a terminal multiplexer?
[20:25] <SuperPrower> Not sure that i know what are you talking about, give me few secs pls
[20:28] <brainwash> SuperPrower: like https://launchpad.net/terminator
[20:28] <SuperPrower> This was TWIN (Textmode Window Environment) programm, but it looks like frozed. Is there any alternatives?
[20:28] <elfy> beat me to it ...
[20:29] <SuperPrower> and, brain, how do i write to you like you write to me? i'm prefer irssi, so i can't click your nick
[20:30] <brainwash> type the first letters of a user nick and then hit the TAB key for auto completion
[20:30] <SuperPrower> brainwash: oh, ty
[20:32] <brainwash> so, twin is a text based terminal emulator + window manager
[20:34] <SuperPrower> brainwash: yeah, so, all i could find it's very old articles. It's not in repos, and it's sourceforge site seems to be deleted. Is there an similliar programm? This is not really important, but still, i wan't to try something like that.
[20:36] <brainwash> SuperPrower: you can download the source code and compile it http://sourceforge.net/projects/twin/
[20:37] <brainwash> SuperPrower: actually https://github.com/cosmos72/twin
[20:43] <max12345> so... apt doesn't update my texmaker from 4.1 to 4.1.1 automatically. Why? Is this something I have to look out for?
[20:43] <max12345> that software just doesn't update like that?
[20:45] <brainwash> max12345: what does "apt-cache policy texmaker" return?
[20:45] <elfy> max12345: in trusty texmaker will stay at 4.1-1
[20:45] <elfy> versions of software generally don't change within a release
[20:46] <SuperPrower> brainwash: eeh.. so.. i downloaded zip from github, then in folder i run "./confige", next "make", and got many errors. Maaany errors. TY, anyway, it's almost night, so i'll read errors later.
[20:46] <max12345> installed 4.1-1 candidate 4.1-1
[20:47] <brainwash> SuperPrower: some dev packages are missing I guess. these packages are needed to build software
[20:48] <max12345> well ok but 4.1-1's copyright is from 2013... wouldn't that put it way back?
[20:49] <brainwash> max12345: you could upgrade to 14.10 (4.3-1) or request a backport of the newer version for 14.04
[20:52] <max12345> Hm I guess that makes sense... having the long term support version not update everything all the time... Didn't think about that
[20:54] <drc> SuperPrower: If you DL an app from the official repos, or use a .deb to install an app, these dependencies are mostly taken care of for you.  DL'ing the source and compiling...not so much.  If you are lucky the build will stop and tell you what it's missing.  Add that dependency, then restart the original build.  BTW, these dependencies can you several layers deep (i.e., a dependency will have another dependency...ad nausium).
[20:55] <elfy> there is a ppa for newer version of texmaker - but - you're at the maintainers mercy and there are a whole bunch of other packages at the same place
[20:55] <elfy> max12345: ^^
[20:57] <max12345> It's ok now that I know I have to manually check for updates in case something doesn't work. I was just confused because I assumed I was up to date automatically and that that included all my programs.
[20:59] <elfy> max12345: depends how you installed it originally, if you used apt then it will check for updates - but it will only update to what's in the repo's