[00:57] uploading plasma to vivid (incomplete needs baloo kfilemetadata sddm-kcm and pokit-kde added) [01:04] I also missed out bluedevil due to needing bluez [01:04] * Riddell sleeps [01:17] * sitter wants CI to build faster -.- [01:43] eeek [01:43] ppa full [01:43] -.- [01:44] wgrant: bump to 10 gib on https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable and https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable-daily and https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable-weekly would be lovely [01:45] sitter: Done. [01:46] wgrant: thank you :) [07:19] good morning [08:56] Good morning. === greyback__ is now known as greyback [10:14] lordievader, morning [10:19] Hey, is there any iso already with plasma 5.2 beta? [10:25] sheytan: nope [10:25] sitter: will there be one? [10:25] probably [10:26] beta landing was a bit delayed by working on dependencies and other tech [10:26] sheytan: I think tomorrow's daily of vivid would have it [10:38] Hey Majdi, how are you doing? [10:45] lordievader, all ok, what about you ? [10:46] Doing good here :) [10:46] sitter: ok, thanks ;) [10:46] there's just something which keeps troubling me [10:47] Majdi: And that is? [10:48] I already wrote about it yesterday in the channel, well it's some issue with a plasmoid written in python [10:48] I'll just paste you yesterdays' messages [10:48] ovidiu-florin, great! I'm trying to change a plasmoid's text color because it doesn't get along with my wallpaper. The widget is transparent [10:48] The source code looks like this http://pastebin.com/EAT8dZe4 [10:48] I don't know really what to edit, I guess the needed property would be self.theme.something or self.layout.something [10:48] couldn't find any documentation that could help though [10:48] * keithzg a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [10:48] I found that http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.3-api/plasma/index.html [10:48] If that could help anyhow [10:50] Majdi: The code never sets a color. [10:50] oh, that's why [10:51] so how can I prevent the widget from using the theme's color ? [10:52] I know you can do that, another plasmoid that I got on my desktop does it by default ... [10:52] Majdi: Reading the documentation on how to set colors? [10:52] did that [10:52] lordievader, there's nothing really in the documentation about that [10:52] not that I found [10:54] Majdi: Do you have PyQt experience? [10:54] Majdi: http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.7-api/plasma/Plasma.Label.html http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.7-api/plasma/Plasma.Svg.html [10:55] lordievader, not at all :( [10:56] Ah never mind the svg documentation, that is not used. Anyhow you can tell the label to be a certain color. [10:58] Majdi: You can even give the label a stylesheet. [10:58] lordievader, alright, thanks for your help, I'll try to figure it out [10:59] lordievader, I was thinking to add a line which would look like that more or less : self.label.TextColor or so [10:59] = #eeee [11:00] I guess [11:00] Majdi: Don't think QtGui.QLabel has a TextColor method, perhaps it has setTextColor. Not sure. [11:01] maybe just a setColor method then ? the plasmoid has just 4 lines of text [11:02] Majdi: Read the documentation ;) [11:02] ok :D === kbroulik is now known as kbroulik-lunch [12:00] 'Morning folks [12:20] Riddell: you around? === kbroulik-lunch is now known as kbroulik === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter_work [13:51] can anybody shed some light into this bug? at least confirm it... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311422 [13:51] KDE bug 311422 in misc "OR depends will used as required on qapt-deb-installer" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [14:00] apol: I can tell you why exactly it happpens, I have a #warning here xD [14:01] sitter: explain it in the bug report if you can, this way next time I go bug-triaging I won't just pout and click next :P [14:01] not hard to fix tho, maybe [14:01] doesn't look like it should be [14:01] especially if you are on a kubuntu system [14:01] * apol winks at everyone on the channel, one by one [14:02] * shadeslayer hands apol a kubuntu ISO [14:02] actually, I have a USB with Kubuntu Plasma 5 right now :P [14:03] also, apparently we released a Plasma 5 ISO where SDDM is busted [14:03] ( didn't start for me, had to update ) [14:04] apol: it's not hard regardless, the algorithm is just too dumb [14:05] as are all algorithms in deb-installer as we have noticed in that RR you hold hostage :P [14:05] sitter: which RR? [14:06] the one with the very long and ugly dependency resolver [14:06] https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/121730/ [14:07] * apol just puked a little in his mouth [14:07] that function is also an abomination, alas, I don't dare refactor since it's not tested xD [14:07] actually [14:07] yep [14:07] the really shit about this is [14:07] qapt shouldn't contain this logic [14:07] like at all [14:07] that crap shoudl have been implemented in apt-pkg 5 years ago [14:08] there's even a todo about it in the header I think [14:08] +5000 [14:08] I think there's architectural problems though [14:09] yes, there's probably a debian policy disallowing new features [14:10] since apt only works on a package source list that is put into the cache; resolving a random deb (or a set of debs) would require them somehow injecting them into the apt cache, which I suppose can have all sorts of side effects given the design premise [14:10] of course that problem would totally go away they simply merged dpkg into apt-get >.< [14:11] silly separations are silly [14:17] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325419 ^^' [14:17] KDE bug 325419 in muon "Muon starts many python3 release checkers and kill our netbook completely" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [14:25] apol: I think we talked about this at some point and fixed it [14:26] the function doing the check was called multiple times [14:26] sitter: I think so too, there's another one open by you very similar [14:26] and python being so fat would then munch of mem [14:26] sitter: so it's all good now? [14:26] apol: not sure, best be checked I guess [14:26] I haven't noticed it anymore in a while though, so probably fixed [14:28] sitter: if you could check, I'd be immensely happy [14:29] earliest next week [14:30] ok, happiness can wait :) [14:34] again, can anybody try this one? [14:34] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326978 [14:34] KDE bug 326978 in libqapt "systemsettings crashes when trying to add a preferred language" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [15:01] sitter: maybe? *.* [15:02] apol: that's complicated [15:02] how? [15:03] that patch is going to change/goway/upstream/whatever though, so the origin doesn't apply to plasma5 right now anyway [15:03] as for the crash itself: a) you need to get an untrusted source error out of qapt and then reload the cache [15:03] getting former is tricky [15:03] sitter: can you comment it? maybe we can just close the bug somehow? [15:04] close report on launchpad [15:04] actually [15:04] yeah [15:04] close report on launchpad if still applicable [15:05] the code in question doesn't even exist anymore, so I doubt this is useful at all [15:06] sitter: what's the launchpad URL? [15:07] just tell him to run ubuntu-bug kde-runtime [15:07] that'll handle the rest [15:07] done [15:08] sitter: by the way, did you see I finally removed muon-installer? [15:09] yes [15:09] <3 [15:11] * BluesKaj hopes muon stick s around for a while, that software center is ok, but not a s reference for application/package info [15:14] BluesKaj: you could maintain it, I hear there's an open position for maintainer :) [15:15] sitter, you're joking of course :) [15:17] no? [15:17] muon package manager isn't really maintained [15:40] sitter, I'm a tester, I know nothing of package management or maintenance, merely a home user [15:49] all things that can be learned [15:49] I am just saying if you find muon useful you might want to consider caring for it on a prgramming side of things [15:53] sitter, I use for reference info mostly , so any simple gui package manager will do since I usually use the konsole to install packages [15:56] sitter: can you check the e-mail I sent before? [16:10] BluesKaj: I would be willing to help you, I have only limited knowledge, but what could possibly go wrong :-) [16:10] I like Muon too, but I think we could make it better [16:12] BluesKaj, Sick_Rimmit: I would be very very very happy to mentor some love-giving to muon package manager [16:12] OK Sounds like a possibility [16:13] just went through all muon bugs, there's many bug reports that look easy to solve [16:14] BluesKaj, Sick_Rimmit: https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=muon&list_id=1187178&product=muon&query_format=advanced [16:15] OK so plenty of Bugs comming in then [16:15] apol: which email I have like 300 in my inbox ... [16:16] Does it need porting to the latest version of QT, and Plasma 5 ? [16:16] Sick_Rimmit, apol, I really wouldn't have time to learn something new that requires a lot of attention right now...I prefer to let the knowlegable devs handle that kind of thing [16:16] Or can it just be a maintain what's there [16:16] Sick_Rimmit: no, it's ported already [16:17] BluesKaj: Well, I could break it and you could test it [16:17] apol: Ah OK, that's pretty good then [16:17] Sick_Rimmit, BluesKaj: in fact, some testing of the Qt5 version would be good already [16:17] Sick_Rimmit, yeah, that sounds like it could work :) [16:17] Maybe I could look after it, I am certainly willing to have a look at the code, and see how much my brain hurts [16:17] BluesKaj: well, there's not really knowledgeable developers handling muon at the moment, that's the problem [16:18] the code is pretty good [16:18] Do you have a link to the code source ? [16:18] uses models and views properly and display is quite separate from the backends [16:18] well, I know nothing about code, that's my point, or one of them at least [16:20] Sick_Rimmit: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=muon.git [16:20] you'll better clone it and examine locally [16:21] Brilliant, I was looking but could find it, my biggest problem is finding my way around [16:21] Sick_Rimmit: feel free to ping me if you have questions [16:21] Yep, What I will do, I am work now, but I will sent those links to me at home, and clone it and take a look [16:21] or ask in the kubuntu-devel mailing list if you prefer [16:21] ok [16:22] If I think I can do anything to get involved then I'll certainly try [16:22] Worst that could happen is I fail, and well it's in no worse state [16:25] nah, it's going to be fine, you'll see [16:27] OK, cool well with your mentor help and BluesKaj doing a bit of testing, we might just have a thing [16:27] Sounds like a lot of fun [16:30] :) [16:30] <:o) [16:42] he following packages have unmet dependencies: [16:42] kio-extras : Depends: kio-extras-data (= 4:5.1.95-0ubuntu1) but 4:5.1.2+git20150104.0043+15.04-0ubuntu0 is installed [16:42] E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. [16:43] -f tends to break things [16:51] Sick_Rimmit, yeah, i think muon is worth saving, that'll be a good thing :) [16:53] BluesKaj: Well I can give it a try, and it's as good a place as any to get involved in commiting some code back to KDE [17:03] well, i sure hope they fix plasma5 before KDE5 aopears on the scene [17:39] <_Groo_> arch-kubu: it works here (utopic) ii kio-extras-data 4:5.1.95+git20150115.0205+14.10-0ubuntu0 all Extra functionality for kioslaves data files. [17:39] BluesKaj: what does that mean? Plasma 5 has been on the scene for a while already [17:39] <_Groo_> try apt-get update again,maybe it wasnt published when you tried to upgrade [17:52] i had to remove the ubuntu-ci repo [17:53] plasma 5 vivid doesnt need any other repos other than default to stay current is my new understanding [17:54] per sitter [17:56] wiki is misleading as a result of this new info [19:28] i see 5.2beta in vivid archive, whohoo :) [19:34] thers a problem with /var/cache/apt/archives/kio-extras-data_4%3a5.1.95-0ubuntu1_all.deb [19:34] bbrb [19:37] hmm apps dont have window decoration now :/ [19:38] any idea how to fix it ? [19:52] kwin_x11 running? [19:53] yofel: yes, but do all packages are already in archive ? [19:54] maybe some are missing and thats why decorations are gone, i tried to enable staging but then a lot of packages is marked to be removed etc. soe total mess :) [19:56] looking at vivid-changes the upload list looks complete. Maybe something wasn't built.. [19:57] not sure, there was one problem during upgrades with kio-extras-data do i had to use --force-overwrite [19:58] one moment let me reboot again [20:00] yofel: ok after reboot i have them :) but plasmashell didn't start had to start it manually [20:03] activities does not work at all [20:17] I just ran into that mess and had to reinstall [20:20] on a 2nd vm Im in the same mess I force removed kio-extras-data and reinstalled it which messes with kio-mtp [20:20] arch-kubu: works pretty nice [20:20] im dissapointed that activites manager does not worl [20:20] *work [20:21] wat ? you sound confused [20:21] works nice even though its broke? [20:21] arch-kubu: the overal view is nice :) [20:22] the only think noticed so far are activities not working [20:22] *thing === Pali_ is now known as Pali === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh === Pici is now known as Guest32967 === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec