[00:57] <Riddell> uploading plasma to vivid (incomplete needs baloo kfilemetadata sddm-kcm and pokit-kde added)
[01:04] <Riddell> I also missed out bluedevil due to needing bluez
[01:04]  * Riddell sleeps
[01:17]  * sitter wants CI to build faster -.-
[01:43] <sitter> eeek
[01:43] <sitter> ppa full
[01:43] <sitter> -.-
[01:44] <sitter> wgrant: bump to 10 gib on https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable and https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable-daily and https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable-weekly would be lovely
[01:45] <wgrant> sitter: Done.
[01:46] <sitter> wgrant: thank you :)
[07:19] <soee> good morning
[08:56] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:14] <Majdi> lordievader, morning
[10:19] <sheytan> Hey, is there any iso already with plasma 5.2 beta?
[10:25] <sitter> sheytan: nope
[10:25] <sheytan> sitter: will there be one?
[10:25] <sitter> probably
[10:26] <sitter> beta landing was a bit delayed by working on dependencies and other tech
[10:26] <sitter> sheytan: I think tomorrow's daily of vivid would have it
[10:38] <lordievader> Hey Majdi, how are you doing?
[10:45] <Majdi> lordievader, all ok, what about you ?
[10:46] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[10:46] <sheytan> sitter: ok, thanks ;)
[10:46] <Majdi> there's just something which keeps troubling me
[10:47] <lordievader> Majdi: And that is?
[10:48] <Majdi> I already wrote about it yesterday in the channel, well it's some issue with a plasmoid written in python
[10:48] <Majdi> I'll just paste you yesterdays' messages
 ovidiu-florin, great! I'm trying to change a plasmoid's text color because it doesn't get along with my wallpaper. The widget is transparent
 The source code looks like this http://pastebin.com/EAT8dZe4
 I don't know really what to edit, I guess the needed property would be self.theme.something or self.layout.something
 couldn't find any documentation that could help though
[10:48] <Majdi> * keithzg a quitté (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
 I found that http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.3-api/plasma/index.html
 If that could help anyhow
[10:50] <lordievader> Majdi: The code never sets a color.
[10:50] <Majdi> oh, that's why
[10:51] <Majdi> so how can I prevent the widget from using the theme's color ?
[10:52] <Majdi> I know you can do that, another plasmoid that I got on my desktop does it by default ...
[10:52] <lordievader> Majdi: Reading the documentation on how to set colors?
[10:52] <Majdi> did that
[10:52] <Majdi> lordievader, there's nothing really in the documentation about that
[10:52] <Majdi> not that I found
[10:54] <lordievader> Majdi: Do you have PyQt experience?
[10:54] <lordievader> Majdi: http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.7-api/plasma/Plasma.Label.html http://api.kde.org/pykde-4.7-api/plasma/Plasma.Svg.html
[10:55] <Majdi> lordievader, not at all :(
[10:56] <lordievader> Ah never mind the svg documentation, that is not used. Anyhow you can tell the label to be a certain color.
[10:58] <lordievader> Majdi: You can even give the label a stylesheet.
[10:58] <Majdi> lordievader, alright, thanks for your help, I'll try to figure it out
[10:59] <Majdi> lordievader, I was thinking to add a line which would look like that more or less : self.label.TextColor or so
[10:59] <Majdi> = #eeee
[11:00] <Majdi> I guess
[11:00] <lordievader> Majdi: Don't think QtGui.QLabel has a TextColor method, perhaps it has setTextColor. Not sure.
[11:01] <Majdi> maybe just a setColor method then ? the plasmoid has just 4 lines of text
[11:02] <lordievader> Majdi: Read the documentation ;)
[11:02] <Majdi> ok :D
[12:00] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:20] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: you around?
[13:51] <apol> can anybody shed some light into this bug? at least confirm it... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311422
[14:00] <sitter> apol: I can tell you why exactly it happpens, I have a #warning here xD
[14:01] <apol> sitter: explain it in the bug report if you can, this way next time I go bug-triaging I won't just pout and click next :P
[14:01] <sitter> not hard to fix tho, maybe
[14:01] <apol> doesn't look like it should be
[14:01] <apol> especially if you are on a kubuntu system
[14:01]  * apol winks at everyone on the channel, one by one
[14:02]  * shadeslayer hands apol a kubuntu ISO
[14:02] <shadeslayer> actually, I have a USB with Kubuntu Plasma 5 right now :P
[14:03] <shadeslayer> also, apparently we released a Plasma 5 ISO where SDDM is busted
[14:03] <shadeslayer> ( didn't start for me, had to update )
[14:04] <sitter> apol: it's not hard regardless, the algorithm is just too dumb
[14:05] <sitter> as are all algorithms in deb-installer as we have noticed in that RR you hold hostage :P
[14:05] <apol> sitter: which RR?
[14:06] <sitter> the one with the very long and ugly dependency resolver
[14:06] <sitter> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/121730/
[14:07]  * apol just puked a little in his mouth
[14:07] <sitter> that function is also an abomination, alas, I don't dare refactor since it's not tested xD
[14:07] <sitter> actually
[14:07] <apol> yep
[14:07] <sitter> the really shit about this is
[14:07] <sitter> qapt shouldn't contain this logic
[14:07] <sitter> like at all
[14:07] <sitter> that crap shoudl have been implemented in apt-pkg 5 years ago
[14:08] <sitter> there's even a todo about it in the header I think
[14:08] <apol> +5000
[14:08] <sitter> I think there's architectural problems though
[14:09] <apol> yes, there's probably a debian policy disallowing new features
[14:10] <sitter> since apt only works on a package source list that is put into the cache; resolving a random deb (or a set of debs) would require them somehow injecting them into the apt cache, which I suppose can have all sorts of side effects given the design premise
[14:10] <sitter> of course that problem would totally go away they simply merged dpkg into apt-get >.<
[14:11] <sitter> silly separations are silly
[14:17] <apol> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325419 ^^'
[14:25] <sitter> apol: I think we talked about this at some point and fixed it
[14:26] <sitter> the function doing the check was called multiple times
[14:26] <apol> sitter: I think so too, there's another one open by you very similar
[14:26] <sitter> and python being so fat would then munch of mem
[14:26] <apol> sitter: so it's all good now?
[14:26] <sitter> apol: not sure, best be checked I guess
[14:26] <sitter> I haven't noticed it anymore in a while though, so probably fixed
[14:28] <apol> sitter: if you could check, I'd be immensely happy
[14:29] <sitter> earliest next week
[14:30] <apol> ok, happiness can wait :)
[14:34] <apol> again, can anybody try this one?
[14:34] <apol> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326978
[15:01] <apol> sitter: maybe? *.*
[15:02] <sitter> apol: that's complicated
[15:02] <apol> how?
[15:03] <sitter> that patch is going to change/goway/upstream/whatever though, so the origin doesn't apply to plasma5 right now anyway
[15:03] <sitter> as for the crash itself: a) you need to get an untrusted source error out of qapt and then reload the cache 
[15:03] <sitter> getting former is tricky 
[15:03] <apol> sitter: can you comment it? maybe we can just close the bug somehow?
[15:04] <sitter> close report on launchpad
[15:04] <sitter> actually
[15:04] <sitter> yeah
[15:04] <sitter> close report on launchpad if still applicable
[15:05] <sitter> the code in question doesn't even exist anymore, so I doubt this is useful at all
[15:06] <apol> sitter: what's the launchpad URL?
[15:07] <sitter> just tell him to run ubuntu-bug kde-runtime
[15:07] <sitter> that'll handle the rest
[15:07] <apol> done
[15:08] <apol> sitter: by the way, did you see I finally removed muon-installer?
[15:09] <sitter> yes
[15:09] <sitter> <3
[15:11]  * BluesKaj hopes muon stick s around for a while, that software center is ok, but not a s reference for application/package info
[15:14] <sitter> BluesKaj: you could maintain it, I hear there's an open position for maintainer :)
[15:15] <BluesKaj> sitter, you're joking of course :)
[15:17] <sitter> no?
[15:17] <sitter> muon package manager isn't really maintained
[15:40] <BluesKaj> sitter, I'm  a tester, I know nothing of package management or maintenance, merely a home user
[15:49] <sitter> all things that can be learned
[15:49] <sitter> I am just saying if you find muon useful you might want to consider caring for it on a prgramming side of things
[15:53] <BluesKaj> sitter, I use for reference info mostly , so any simple gui package manager will do since I usually use the konsole to install packages
[15:56] <apol> sitter: can you check the e-mail I sent before?
[16:10] <Sick_Rimmit> BluesKaj: I would be willing to help you, I have only limited knowledge, but what could possibly go wrong :-)
[16:10] <Sick_Rimmit> I like Muon too, but I think we could make it better
[16:12] <apol> BluesKaj, Sick_Rimmit: I would be very very very happy to mentor some love-giving to muon package manager
[16:12] <Sick_Rimmit> OK Sounds like a possibility
[16:13] <apol> just went through all muon bugs, there's many bug reports that look easy to solve
[16:14] <apol> BluesKaj, Sick_Rimmit: https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=muon&list_id=1187178&product=muon&query_format=advanced
[16:15] <Sick_Rimmit> OK so plenty of Bugs comming in then
[16:15] <sitter> apol: which email I have like 300 in my inbox ...
[16:16] <Sick_Rimmit> Does it need porting to the latest version of QT, and Plasma 5 ?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> Sick_Rimmit, apol, I really wouldn't have time to learn something new that requires a lot of attention right now...I prefer to let the knowlegable devs handle that kind of thing
[16:16] <Sick_Rimmit> Or can it just be a maintain what's there
[16:16] <apol> Sick_Rimmit: no, it's ported already
[16:17] <Sick_Rimmit> BluesKaj: Well, I could break it and you could test it
[16:17] <Sick_Rimmit> apol: Ah OK, that's pretty good then
[16:17] <apol> Sick_Rimmit, BluesKaj: in fact, some testing of the Qt5 version would be good already
[16:17] <BluesKaj> Sick_Rimmit, yeah, that sounds like it could work :)
[16:17] <Sick_Rimmit> Maybe I could look after it, I am certainly willing to have a look at the code, and see how much my brain hurts
[16:17] <apol> BluesKaj: well, there's not really knowledgeable developers handling muon at the moment, that's the problem
[16:18] <apol> the code is pretty good
[16:18] <Sick_Rimmit> Do you have a link to the code source ?
[16:18] <apol> uses models and views properly and display is quite separate from the backends
[16:18] <BluesKaj> well, I know nothing about code, that's my point, or one of them at least
[16:20] <apol> Sick_Rimmit: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=muon.git
[16:20] <apol> you'll better clone it and examine locally
[16:21] <Sick_Rimmit> Brilliant, I was looking but could find it, my biggest problem is finding my way around 
[16:21] <apol> Sick_Rimmit: feel free to ping me if you have questions
[16:21] <Sick_Rimmit> Yep, What I will do, I am work now, but I will sent those links to me at home, and clone it and take a look
[16:21] <apol> or ask in the kubuntu-devel mailing list if you prefer
[16:21] <apol> ok
[16:22] <Sick_Rimmit> If I think I can do anything to get involved then I'll certainly try
[16:22] <Sick_Rimmit> Worst that could happen is I fail, and well it's in no worse state
[16:25] <apol> nah, it's going to be fine, you'll see
[16:27] <Sick_Rimmit> OK, cool well with your mentor help and BluesKaj doing a bit of testing, we might just have a thing
[16:27] <Sick_Rimmit> Sounds like a lot of fun
[16:30] <apol> :)
[16:30] <apol> <:o)
[16:42] <arch-kubu> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:42] <arch-kubu>  kio-extras : Depends: kio-extras-data (= 4:5.1.95-0ubuntu1) but 4:5.1.2+git20150104.0043+15.04-0ubuntu0 is installed
[16:42] <arch-kubu> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[16:43] <arch-kubu>  -f tends to break things
[16:51] <BluesKaj> Sick_Rimmit, yeah, i think muon is worth saving, that'll be a good thing :)
[16:53] <Sick_Rimmit> BluesKaj: Well I can give it a try, and it's as good a place as any to get involved in commiting some code back to KDE
[17:03] <BluesKaj> well, i sure hope they fix plasma5 before KDE5 aopears on the scene 
[17:39] <_Groo_> arch-kubu: it works here (utopic) ii  kio-extras-data                                             4:5.1.95+git20150115.0205+14.10-0ubuntu0           all          Extra functionality for kioslaves data files.
[17:39] <apol> BluesKaj: what does that mean? Plasma 5 has been on the scene for a while already
[17:39] <_Groo_> try apt-get update again,maybe it wasnt published when you tried to upgrade
[17:52] <arch-kubu> i had to remove the ubuntu-ci  repo
[17:53] <arch-kubu> plasma 5 vivid doesnt need any other repos  other than default to stay current is my new understanding
[17:54] <arch-kubu> per sitter
[17:56] <arch-kubu> wiki is misleading as a result of this new info
[19:28] <soee> i see 5.2beta in vivid archive, whohoo :)
[19:34] <soee> thers a problem with /var/cache/apt/archives/kio-extras-data_4%3a5.1.95-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[19:34] <soee> bbrb
[19:37] <soee> hmm apps dont have window decoration now :/
[19:38] <soee> any idea how to fix it ?
[19:52] <yofel> kwin_x11 running?
[19:53] <soee> yofel: yes, but do all packages are already in archive ?
[19:54] <soee> maybe some are missing and thats why decorations are gone, i tried to enable staging but then a lot of packages is marked to be removed etc. soe total mess :)
[19:56] <yofel> looking at vivid-changes the upload list looks complete. Maybe something wasn't built..
[19:57] <soee> not sure, there was one problem during upgrades with kio-extras-data do i had to use --force-overwrite
[19:58] <soee> one moment let me reboot again
[20:00] <soee> yofel: ok after reboot i have them :) but plasmashell didn't start had to start it manually
[20:03] <soee> activities does not work at all 
[20:17] <arch-kubu> I just ran into that mess and had to reinstall
[20:20] <arch-kubu> on a 2nd vm  Im in the same mess  I force removed  kio-extras-data and reinstalled it   which messes with  kio-mtp
[20:20] <soee> arch-kubu: works pretty nice 
[20:20] <soee> im dissapointed that activites manager does not worl
[20:20] <soee> *work
[20:21] <arch-kubu> wat  ?   you sound confused
[20:21] <arch-kubu> works nice even though its broke?  
[20:21] <soee> arch-kubu: the overal view is nice :)
[20:22] <soee> the only think  noticed so far are activities not working
[20:22] <soee> *thing