[03:24] <ahoneybun> popey,
[08:22] <dholbach> good morning
[08:23] <kalikiana> Laney: oh, I will do that then, thanks a lot!
[09:12] <dpm> rpadovani, mzanetti, I need perhaps another 30 mins to finish testing offline mode. Would you mind if I move the meeting time to start later?
[09:13] <dpm> Otherwise, I'm happy to keep the time, but I'm still building the branch
[09:13] <mzanetti> dpm: works for me
[09:13] <dpm> great, thanks
[09:21] <rpadovani> dpm, it's ok for me too :-)
[09:21] <dpm> thanks rpadovani :)
[09:30] <dpm> mzanetti, what will happen if I've got Reminders configured to use Evernote, then select "offline only", and then select my Evernote account? I'm guessing my notes won't be lost or there won't be a reupload of all notes, right?
[09:36] <mzanetti> dpm: it's like switching accounts
[09:36] <mzanetti> dpm: the other is completely separated from the other (except reminders in the calendar are saved for all accounts the same)
[09:36] <dpm> mzanetti, ok
[09:39] <dpm> mzanetti, it seems to lock up for me. I've got 2 accounts enabled: my personal one and evernote300. I switched from my personal to evernote300, which worked. Then switched to "offline only", which locked up the app, and then it crashed. Is there any way to debug this?
[09:39] <dpm> other than just looking at the log
[09:40] <mzanetti> dpm: running it in the debugger I guess
[09:40] <dpm> hm, can't reproduce it now :(
[09:41] <dpm> Restarting the app and doing the switch worked
[09:53] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Super Bowl I Anniverary Day! :-P
[11:30] <mivoligo> mzanetti: I've finally passed the level 9 :)
[11:30] <mzanetti> mivoligo: did you upgrade?
[11:31] <mzanetti> reminds me. need to distribute new packages
[11:31] <mivoligo> mzanetti: what do you mean?
[11:31] <mzanetti> mivoligo: well, beginning of the week I broke the lighthouse, boom box and hammersmith towers
[11:31] <mzanetti> they were way too weak
[11:31] <mzanetti> fixed that yesterday
[11:34] <mivoligo> mzanetti: that might be the reason, I used boombox this time
[11:40] <mzanetti> popey: mivoligo: rpadovani: update the game please. http://notyetthere.org/data/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.machines-vs-machines_0.1.1_armhf.click
[11:40] <mzanetti> (if you're installing it on a device that is)
[11:41] <mzanetti> if you're compiling yourself from source, make sure to bzr pull the game, delete the data/lpbuild directory and run setupdata.py again
[12:12] <popey> mzanetti: k
[12:27] <mzanetti> ahayzen: update please: http://notyetthere.org/data/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.machines-vs-machines_0.1.1_armhf.click
[12:28] <ahayzen> mzanetti, thanks :) ... that click is massive!
[12:31] <mzanetti> ahayzen: yeah... I need to keep sounds compressed...
[12:31] <mzanetti> ahayzen: to improve performance, the setupdata converts all sound effects to wav files
[12:31] <mzanetti> I need to disable that for the soundtracks
[13:00] <DanChapman> popey: you seem to be no longer in #dekko or #u-t-meeting are you joining the hangout?
[13:02] <popey> ah yes, killed irc client, thanks!
[13:07] <ahayzen> mzanetti, installing that click on device caused something to explode and crash lol
[13:07] <mzanetti> ahayzen: define "something"
[13:07] <ahayzen> mzanetti, "_usr_lib_arm-linux-gnueabihf_ubuntu-app-launch_desktop-hook.32011.crash"
[13:08] <mzanetti> hmm
[13:08] <mzanetti> odd
[13:08] <ahayzen> mzanetti, while it was doing $ pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted /tmp/my.click
[13:08] <mzanetti> popey: did it work for you? ^
[13:09] <popey> yes
[13:09] <ahayzen> mzanetti, well it 'worked'
[13:09] <popey> i see no errors on either flo or krillin
[13:09] <ahayzen> mzanetti, just while it was installing the CPU went mental as something else exploded lol
[13:11] <popey> mzanetti: still says 0.1 in the about page
[13:13] <mzanetti> right... I just bumped the package version to avoid confusion when installing
[13:13] <mzanetti> still need to make the about page read it from the manifest file somehow
[13:19] <dholbach> mhall119, how do we fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1409391?
[13:28] <gcollura> popey, I know I must study for my exams, but this idea came in my mind and I had to write it down, could you please check it out if you have some spare time? https://code.launchpad.net/~gcollura/ubuntu-calculator-app/reboot-delay-db-transactions/+merge/246565 :) thank you very much!
[13:28] <popey> of course!
[13:29] <popey> Get back to your studies! :D
[14:03] <dholbach> balloons, what happened to https://code.launchpad.net/~flscogna/ubuntu-weather-app/reorganization-and-native-launcher/+merge/241  351?
[14:03] <dholbach> err, sorry
[14:03] <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~flscogna/ubuntu-weather-app/reorganization-and-native-launcher/+merge/241351
[14:13] <davmor2> nik90_: the recurring alarm bug, the alarms are displayed correctly elsewhere it is only the clock app, so is it just a this alarm has gone off flag at fault rather than the data for the alarm in EDS?
[14:14] <nik90_> davmor2: I am not too sure if the fault lies in the EDS data...since indicator-datetime shows the recurring alarm correctly
[14:14] <nik90_> however clock app also reads and displays EDS data
[14:14] <nik90_> ^^ they contradict one other so it is confusing :P
[14:14] <nik90_> but i am pretty sure it is related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1362341
[14:15] <nik90_> somehow fixing that bug has resulted in a new issue
[14:15] <davmor2> nik90_: nice
[14:15] <nik90_> I have pinged charles. Will talk to him and see if we can find the issue
[14:22] <dholbach> mhall119, dpm: when I'm playing around with a local copy of the developer site- what's the default user/password for /admin?
[14:23] <dholbach> mhall119, dpm: if I log in using openid, I get redirected to a page where I have to log in using django auth
[14:34] <dpm> dholbach, I think it's admin/password
[14:34] <mhall119> dholbach: after you syncdb and migrate, run initdb
[14:34] <mhall119> there is no default username/password, but initdb will setup the groups needed for django_openid_auth to give you access
[14:35] <mhall119> you don't go directly to /admin/ either, use the django-cms toolbar
[14:36] <nik90_> zsombi: ping
[14:36] <zsombi> nik90_: pong
[14:36] <zsombi> nik90_: I know what you want
[14:36] <nik90_> zsombi: I doubt it :P
[14:37] <nik90_> I need your thoughts on something
[14:37] <dholbach> mhall119, I used the instructions in the README.md file
[14:37] <zsombi> nik90_: ah, ok :) I thought Alarms again :D
[14:37] <nik90_> zsombi: charles has fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1362341 on his side.
[14:37] <dholbach> but whatever I click in the toolbar, I get taken to the login page
[14:37] <nik90_> zsombi: well it is alarms ofc...
[14:38] <nik90_> zsombi: however the UI needs to be refreshed on the clock app side of things...we discussed this earlier and we came to the conclusion that when clock app loses focus the alarm model can be reloaded to perform a ui refresh
[14:39] <mhall119> dholbach: and you checked the team boxes during the SSO login process?
[14:39] <dholbach> mhall119, yes
[14:39] <mhall119> hmmm...., not sure then what's going on
[14:39] <mhall119> try logging out and back in?
[14:39] <zsombi> nik90_: yes...
[14:39] <dholbach> mhall119, yes, tried that as well
[14:39] <dholbach> it was a fresh checkout
[14:39] <mhall119> and you have cookies enabled, yes?
[14:39] <dholbach> but I can try again and see if leaving out the dbbackup step will help
[14:39] <nik90_> zsombi: however I am facing the issue that the alarm switches of all the alarms reinitiate their position when the user opens the indicator or returns to the clcok app
[14:40] <dholbach> I never disabled them
[14:40] <zsombi> nik90_: uhm... I don't get it
[14:40] <nik90_> zsombi: since this is rtm we are talking about where your new alarm backend hasnt landed
[14:40] <mhall119> ah, yeah, the sample data section may not be accurate anymore...
[14:41] <zsombi> nik90_: so, is this caused by teh refresh() <
[14:41] <zsombi> ?
[14:41] <zsombi> nik90_: or by teh fact that the alarm is dismissed by the indicator?
[14:41] <nik90_> zsombi: well the refresh() function is not available on ubuntu-rtm..so I am manually setting the listview model to null and then back to alarm data
[14:42] <nik90_> ^^ when the clock app loses/gains focus
[14:42] <zsombi> nik90_: it does not help, teh model won't be reloaded
[14:42] <zsombi> nik90_: you'd need the refresh() to be there explicitly
[14:43] <zsombi> nik90_: setting the ListView's model to null and back does not call the model refreshing
[14:43] <nik90_> zsombi: EDS has already been updated by indicator-datetime and the model picks that up correctly though
[14:43] <zsombi> nik90_: you'd need to delete teh model and reinstantiate it
[14:43] <nik90_> zsombi: ok I will try that
[14:43] <nik90_> atm the model is loaded using a QML Loader
[14:43] <zsombi> ouh... so it means that the data is updated
[14:44] <zsombi> nik90_: ah, ok, then it works as you desired
[14:44] <nik90_> yeah the data is updated..just the UI is lagging behind
[14:44] <zsombi> nik90_: and the ListView will refresh, and flicker
[14:44] <nik90_> yup exactly
[14:44] <zsombi> nik90_: well, s*t happens, as Forest Gump said :)
[14:44] <nik90_> can I fix this in a smarter way to avoid the flicker issue :P
[14:45] <nik90_> let me try the model reload to see if that helps
[14:45] <dholbach> mhall119, with a fresh checkout, without dbbackup, I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9756120/
[14:45] <zsombi> nik90_: nott really.... or with a huuuuge workaround: you copy AlarmModel data into a separate ListModel, and sync that...
[14:45] <zsombi> nik90_: so then the current AlarmModel will be just a data bearer
[14:46] <zsombi> nik90_: and you can no longer use Alarm as model element anymore
[14:46] <nik90_> that's too much of a workaround
[14:46] <zsombi> nik90_: yep
[14:47] <zsombi> nik90_: or we take the Alarm fixes from Vivid to RTM
[14:47] <nik90_> zsombi: you mean your new alarm backend?
[14:47] <zsombi> nik90_: then you shoudl have all the fancy things there... though seemed to have probs in Vivid...
[14:47] <nik90_> zsombi: no, there are lot of alarm issues in vivid
[14:47] <zsombi> nik90_: yes, and had no time to check it yet
[14:47] <nik90_> I still can edit an alarm time in vivid
[14:48] <nik90_> zsombi: exactly..lets open that can of worms later when we have time for it
[14:48] <nik90_> s/can edit/cannot edit
[14:49] <zsombi> nik90_: we coudl tryu to expose the refresh() slot in RTM... but that will cause flickering as well, as calls clear(), which will invalidate the whole content, and your ListView will empty first, then refill
[14:49] <dholbach> mhall119, also: do you know how we can fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1409391?
[14:50] <zsombi> nik90_: so you'd be at the same situation as you are now
[14:50] <nik90_> zsombi: well I can achieve the same with just 5 lines of code. So I rather use that than waste your time with backporting the refresh() function
[14:51] <zsombi> :)
[14:51] <zsombi> nik90_: have you had time to check teh new ListItem?
[14:52] <nik90_> zsombi: no I haven't yet..although I have kept track of the commits to the sdk staging
[14:52] <nik90_> I will see if I can check them out tomorrow
[14:52] <zsombi> nik90_: if you branch staging now, and build it, you'd see a gallery item, you can try to check it, and see the API (make docs)
[14:52] <zsombi> nik90_: I think the gallery change is even released now to Vivid
[14:53] <nik90_> zsombi: I broke my vivid lxc container and have been meaning to recreate a new one..hence the delay in checking them out
[14:53] <zsombi> nik90_: we have #76, 77, 78, 80, 82, 83 to come, and at the end (83) ListItem reordering (dragMode) is also gonna be available
[14:54] <nik90_> hmm I am suprised that developer.ubuntu.com is not pointing yet to the new 15.04 qml api docs
[14:55] <zsombi> nik90_: I'll try to create a video with teh features, hope to have some time in the near future
[14:55] <dholbach> mhall119, ok, the 'trans' bug I fixed in an MP
[14:55] <dholbach> still I can't log in - let me see if I can find it
[14:55] <zsombi> nik90_: most probably because due to RTM, we are still having 1.1 open
[14:55] <nik90_> ah ok
[14:56] <zsombi> ok, eod now
[14:56] <nik90_> bye
[14:56] <zsombi> nik90_: take care!
[14:56] <nik90_> you too..talk to you later
[14:58] <mhall119> dholbach: I'll look into the bug, but I have a fix for the blog and sub-nav ready so if it'll take all day ot fix it I'mgoing to package up this release firs
[14:59] <dholbach> mhall119, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/missing-load-i18n-in-template/+merge/246583 is the fix I mentioned - it's tiny and it can wait if necessary
[15:00] <dholbach> it's just that I'm seeing a login failure for some reason
[15:00] <dholbach> it's bizarre
[15:01] <dholbach> aha!
[15:01] <dholbach> I just tried in firefox
[15:01] <dholbach> where I got a message saying that some parts are going via http as opposed to https
[15:01] <dholbach> it could be that a plugin I'm using in chromium blocked this
[15:02] <dholbach> and that's how I ended up not being logged in
[15:02] <dholbach> mhall119, ^
[15:02] <dholbach> so ignore me for nwo
[15:04] <mhall119> can do :)
[15:04] <dholbach> thought so ;-)
[15:05] <mhall119> dholbach: didn't realize you had an MP already, merged it into trunk
[15:06] <dholbach> woohoo!
[15:09] <_gpg_> hi
[15:10] <_gpg_> hi
[15:10] <_gpg_> i was reading i18n.tr and i'd like to know if it was designed with dynamyc language change in mind, any idea please ?
[15:12] <_gpg_> many API's include "at the time when the QML application is started" sentence giving the feeling that if you need to change the language you have to restart your application
[15:13] <mhall119> dpm: ^^ do you know how that works?
[15:14] <dpm> _gpg_, dynamic language change is currently not possible. Generally, if you change the language on system settings, you'll need to restart the phone for the new language to be used
[15:14] <dpm> we did look into that,
[15:15] <dpm> but it turned out to be quite complex
[15:15] <dpm> I can't find the bug right now
[15:15] <_gpg_> dpm: think about Ubuntu in Pone/TV/Car/Airplanes :)
[15:16] <dpm> _gpg_, you don't need to convince me, I do want it to happen too :)
[15:16] <dpm> however, for the first phone release it's something that won't be included
[15:16] <_gpg_> i see, thanks
[15:22] <mhall119> _gpg_: how often do you change languages on those?
[15:23] <dpm> I'm not sure about the others, but I'm guessing it's most common on airplanes
[15:24] <mhall119> dpm: dholbach: any other code fixed to lp:developer-ubuntu-com before I request a deployment?
[15:24] <dholbach> mhall119, no, not for now
[15:25] <mhall119> oh, favicon, let me see if I can fix that
[15:43] <dholbach> mhall119, are you looking at the "broken link to legal page" bug too?
[15:44] <mhall119> no
[15:48] <dholbach> mhall119, ok... I just saw the bug and had no idea how to fix it
[15:49] <mhall119> dholbach: what bug #?
[15:50] <dholbach> mhall119, https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1409391
[15:50] <dholbach> balloons, you pinged me about the weather app at some stage - it looks like the MP is still up: https://code.launchpad.net/~flscogna/ubuntu-weather-app/reorganization-and-native-launcher/+merge/241351
[15:50] <dholbach> balloons, I'm not sure what to do about it, but didn't want to leave it sitting there
[15:50] <balloons> dholbach, ack, let's look
[15:52] <mhall119> dholbach: ah, if it's in developer.u.c/assets/ then it's something for the web-team to fix
[15:52] <dholbach> mhall119, ah... ok
[15:52] <mhall119> not sure what project that would be, ask tayna maybe?
[15:52] <balloons> dholbach, I rebuilt it to see the errors. I assume your packaging fixes should have worked
[15:52] <mhall119> /assets/ requests are redirected to assets.ubuntu.com/
[15:53] <dholbach> mhall119, will ping them
[15:53] <dholbach> balloons, I looked at it weeks ago - just saw an old mail in my inbox and thought I'd check
[16:04] <mhall119> dpm: can you get be chinese translations for the string "Blog" to use in the menu?
[16:04] <mhall119> also, did you guys see https://medium.com/@brunn/how-to-get-honest-user-feedback-646a28fb78ff ?
[16:05] <mhall119> bzoltan: is there an API for an application to get a device-unique ID?
[16:05] <mhall119> beuno: ^^ don't you have to do this for the store scope?
[16:06] <beuno> push does it
[16:06] <mhall119> right, Tommy mentions that, but it requires the user has setup their U1 account
[16:07] <beuno> maybe, probably
[16:08] <bzoltan> mhall119:  try like this - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/+junk/SystemInfo/view/head:/ui/DeviceTab.qml
[16:09] <bzoltan> mhall119: I used to play with it some time ago
[16:10] <mhall119> bzoltan: DeviceInfo is from QtSystemInfo?
[16:49] <bzoltan> mhall119: yes
[16:50] <mhall119> bzoltan is that not an officially supported API? It's not on the developer portal
[17:02] <bzoltan> mhall119:  it is certainly available on the device
[17:02] <bzoltan> mhall119:  as the system settings is importing it
[17:05] <bzoltan> mhall119:  but it is not present in the SDK seeds ... what is a bug indeed. Thanks for discovering it. I will fix it.
[17:18] <Purebe|Work> Hello!  Anyone have any idea how to launch a full screen program from a script, while another full screen program is running, without causing ubuntu to flash the desktop?
[17:46] <mhall119> dholbach: blog fixes are on http://91.189.93.108:8080/zh-cn/community/blog/
[17:47] <mhall119> going to file an RT for staging/production deployment now
[17:47] <dholbach> mhall119, which blog fixes?
[17:48] <mhall119> dholbach: allowing us to separate english and chinese entries
[17:48] <dholbach> ahhh great
[17:48] <dholbach> you're a hero
[17:48] <dholbach> liuxg will be please to hear :)
[19:52] <mhall119> rpadovani: am I doing something wrong, or is there no way to close the sqrt( on the calculator reboot?
[19:53] <mhall119> oh, swipe the keyboard sideways, I see now
[20:05] <rpadovani> mhall119, anyway, interesting feedback :-)
[20:07] <mhall119> rpadovani: my big complaint right now is how much you have to flip the keyboard back and forth to do something like cos(45)<equals>
[20:07] <mhall119> -> cos( <- 45 -> ) <- =
[20:07] <mhall119> I have no idea how to make that better though
[20:08] <rpadovani> mhall119, try to rotate the device ;-)
[20:08] <mhall119> I saw that, yeah, that's quite nice (and also ruled out by initial suggesting of putting [=] on both sides
[20:11] <rpadovani> mhall119, btw, thanks for spamming my blog around :D
[20:19] <mhall119> always happy to spam stuff like that around :)
[20:21] <ahoneybun> ahayzen__, I showed off your game to someone yesterday, he liked it!
[20:22] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, awesome thanks :)
[20:22] <ahoneybun> ahayzen__, to show off some awesome Bacon2D
[20:22] <ahoneybun> ahayzen__, but of course :)
[20:22] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, bacon2d is awesome :)
[20:22] <ahoneybun> yep for sure
[20:37] <Purebe|Work> Hey, so, if you're running a script that's basically nohup x &; pkill y; nohup y &; sleep 5s; pkill x
[20:37] <Purebe|Work> once a minute roughly
[20:37] <Purebe|Work> and that script is called Z, and program y runs "sh Z" every ~minute to call that script
[20:37] <Purebe|Work> is that some kind of a race condition?
[20:38] <Purebe|Work> because, I don't see why it wouldn't work (probably because I'm misunderstanding something fundamental about linux and it's shell)
[20:38] <Purebe|Work> and it works fine for a few minutes, but eventually the sync gets messed up and x or y gets run or killed before it's supposed to and things go to hell
[20:52] <ahoneybun> can scopes login to a account?
[20:54] <mhall119> ahoneybun: yes!
[20:54] <ahoneybun> mhall119, cool I'm looking at making a Steam scope
[20:55] <ahoneybun> like you could look though their database and see if a said game had linux support
[20:55] <rpadovani> ahoneybun, yes it can https://github.com/rschroll/gmail-scope
[20:56] <ahoneybun> thanks rpadovani I was also looking at this https://github.com/Micahnator/Panpipe/blob/master/panpipe.qml too
[20:56] <mhall119> ahoneybun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Y_ORqjD9g&list=PL-qBHd6_LXWYSvPX1uyD5ADBMhl41zbcw&index=5
[20:56] <ahoneybun> rpadovani, maybe you could provide some help since I know nothing of using scopes
[20:57] <rpadovani> ahoneybun, well, I never used account in a scope, but if you have a question feel free to ask :-)
[20:57] <ahoneybun> rpadovani, for now I just want to make it read the steam game database then worry about login and such :)
[20:58] <ahoneybun> I have never used APIs or anything lol
[20:58] <ahoneybun> well the ubuntu touch apis lol
[20:59] <rpadovani> ahoneybun, I used this guide: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/tutorials/write-a-json-scope-in-cpp/
[21:00] <ahoneybun> rpadovani, lol I just started downloading the branch for that lol
[21:04] <ahoneybun> rpadovani, does this look like the right place for what I want in a scope? https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Steam_Web_API
[21:05] <nik90_> hey guys, my mind kind of blanked out :P... what's the command to ssh into the device?
[21:05] <nik90_> obviously adb shell will work..but there was a ssh command as well
[21:07] <DanChapman> phablet-shell
[21:07] <DanChapman> nik90_: ^^
[21:07] <nik90_> DanChapman: thnx a lot. Cant believe that slipped my mind
[21:07] <DanChapman> :-D
[21:13] <ahoneybun> Steam wants me to enter a domain name to get the api key
[21:15]  * ahoneybun thinks twitter api would be easier to use
[21:20] <ahoneybun> rpadovani, I;m thinking of making a twitter scope now lol steam does not have apis to use in this case I think
[21:28] <ahoneybun> I don't even know what to look for in the api
[22:08] <ahoneybun> I'm getting so many errors
[22:08] <ahoneybun> I'll be back got class
[22:09] <Purebe|Work> Anyone know a method of forcing the shell to block until a process had finished loading?
[22:09] <Purebe|Work> has finished*
[22:22] <gcollura> beuno, I saw your latest email in the mailing list. how this change will affect existing apps with their configurations saved to .local/share/com.ubuntu.developer.blabla../ ? all user configurations will be lost if the app domain changes, right?