[00:01] <rocko> beeks: i searched for but and found nothing
[00:01] <theone> people, i need some assistance fixing an HP laptop through ubuntu. I am currently running ubuntu from an external HDD and trying to install it in the internal HDD (which when i tried using lice CD completely failed). any help?
[00:01] <rocko> beeks: i searched and found nothing
[00:02] <hydrajump> trism: so it is possible. the first option you describe what would I need to do to unity-greeter before recompiling for prime to show up and is this difficult to compile and install?
[00:02] <rocko> bekks: damn i cant type today sorry   i cant find either
[00:02] <bekks> rocko: So both tools arent found when typting "which mii-tool" and "which ethtool"?
[00:03] <rocko> bekks: sorry i typed in treminal and /sbin/mii-tool
[00:04] <rocko> bekks: /sbin/ethtool
[00:05] <rocko> bekks: sorry iam a win > linux convert here lol still learning
[00:05] <bekks> rocko: So whats the output of "sudo mii-tool eth0"
[00:06] <Qwertie> I somehow managed to hide the clock in the top right of unity and I cant figure out how to get it back. The clock settings under time & date are all grayed out.
[00:07] <rocko> bekks: eth0: negotiated 1000baseT-FD flow-control, link ok
[00:08] <CpuID> hey ppls, ive got a kernel module (ixgbevf) which exists in both the standard kernel, and an updated module installed with dkms. the original exists as kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/ixgbevf/ixgbevf.ko and the new exists as updates/dkms/ixgbevf.ko. whats the safest way to disable/remove the original module to ensure the new module will load as its replacement everytime on boot?
[00:10] <hydrajump> trism: I found this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/unity-greeter/trusty/view/head:/src/menubar.vala#L240 but I'm not sure what I'd need to add to load the python indicator. Have you done this?
[00:10] <bekks> rocko: So did you try to configure an IP manually?
[00:11] <rocko> bekks: no i do not know how to do that
[00:11] <djhash> Anyone to assist in checking possibly corrupt partition(s)? fdisk -l /dev/sda identifies partitions as HPFS/NTFS/exFAT. How can I mount them?  mounting using tntfs results in failed to mount invalid argument, ntfs signature is missing.  Backstory: Two SSDs were in a RAID0, now attached to an LSI controller with the foreign configuration imported. No important information on the drives, I just would like to see if I can get to the
[00:11] <djhash> previous data in them. Maybe end up learning something. (used to contain some scratch files, and probably window's pagefile)
[00:12] <bekks> rocko: You could try following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html#ip-addressing
[00:14] <cyclob|work> am i able to automate permission setting for new ftp files?
[00:33] <studmuf> Anyone on here using rsync for file backup?
[00:34] <ikonia> studmuf: sometimes
[00:34] <studmuf> Or know how to compare the files of two paritions
[00:34] <imbezol> studmuf: rsync with -n would do it
[00:35] <bekks> diff would do the job, too.
[00:35] <imbezol> a whole partition?
[00:35] <ikonia> studmuf: rsync compares it on trigger
[00:35] <ikonia> imbezol: yes
[00:35] <bekks> ikonia: Depends on what you are trying to do.
[00:35] <imbezol> i was thinking that too but too messing
[00:35] <imbezol> er, messy
[00:35] <ikonia> it I use -x to not traverse mounted on different partition file systems
[00:35] <ikonia> but it depends on what I require what options I use
[00:35] <imbezol> yeah nice thing about rsync is you can specify the direction
[00:36] <imbezol> exclude files, etc
[00:36] <imbezol> diff it's yes no if they are different.. even if the newer version is on the target
[00:37] <bekks> imbezol: So what are you actually trying to achieve?
[00:37] <bekks> merging to filesets?
[00:38] <imbezol> good question, but not for me
[00:38] <mynameisdeleted> so.. thoughts on torrent based apt system.. rather than gettign packages from the web on busy servers... get them over torrent from other users who have already downloaded that particular package
[00:39] <mynameisdeleted> in exchange for some upload you can download ubuntu packages faster with apt
[00:39] <mynameisdeleted> I guess I'd have to start with a torrent mirror of ubuntu 15.04, and 14.10 and 14.04   and a sort of apt mirror which has torrent files for every package...
[00:39] <cpslcktrjn> for what gain? I've never really had an issue with speed with the hundreds and hundreds of mirrors out there
[00:40] <imbezol> me either
[00:40] <mynameisdeleted> I can get 1.1GB ubuntu iso in 30 seconds via torrent
[00:40] <imbezol> and i don't have to suffer with a poor connection because i'm torrenting all the time
[00:40] <mynameisdeleted> and in 10 mins via http
[00:40] <imbezol> but you're not downloading an iso through apt
[00:40] <ki7mt> Me either, my local mirror is very fast :-)
[00:40] <mynameisdeleted> local mirrors are a better option if you are installing on computers that share internet
[00:41] <mynameisdeleted> I always get < 1MB/s
[00:41] <mynameisdeleted> when I torrent I get 20MB/s
[00:41] <mynameisdeleted> isntead of <1
[00:41] <imbezol> perhaps time to try out some other mirrors
[00:42] <mynameisdeleted> maybe
[00:42] <mynameisdeleted> us ubuntu mirror is slow
[00:42] <mynameisdeleted> I'd like it to pick fast sources for me
[00:43] <mynameisdeleted> not have me test them all and pick whats the fastest at that moment
[00:43] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line
[00:44] <mynameisdeleted> also if I install 100 ubuntu machines on a lan on shared cable or dsl
[00:44] <mynameisdeleted> 99% of package fetching will happen locally between machines on the lan
[00:44] <mynameisdeleted> without me setting up a mirror or performing mirror selection
[00:45] <imbezol> mynameisdeleted: set up a cacheing proxy
[00:45] <bekks> So use netselect on the apt mirror, and use an apt mirror in your lan :)
[00:45] <bekks> apt-cacher-ng :)
[00:45] <ki7mt> yeah, simply caching can work just as well
[00:45] <mynameisdeleted> I like a configurationless autodiscovering option
[00:45] <mynameisdeleted> you dont have to use it
[00:45] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: You like 100x the download bandwidth :P
[00:46] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: Using apt-cacher-ng you will have the LAN speed for already downloaded packages.
[00:46] <mynameisdeleted> I can provide install dvd or usb stick.. and there is no needs for caching proxy
[00:46] <thinkpadd> Hi, Do you know how can I enable fingerprint in thinkpad T440s? I have used these commands, but it does not find my device. any idea?
[00:46] <thinkpadd> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:fingerprint/fingerprint-gui && sudo apt-get update
[00:46] <thinkpadd> sudo apt-get install libbsapi policykit-1-fingerprint-gui fingerprint-gui
[00:46] <mynameisdeleted> any computer can be the proxy
[00:46] <rebs> thinkpadd, i have the same model
[00:46] <mynameisdeleted> and if the first proxy goes down it doesnt matter
[00:46] <rebs> i dont think there is proper support for the 440 s yes
[00:46] <rebs> yet
[00:46] <mynameisdeleted> a caching proxy server is a single point of failure for all your other workstations getting dpkg's
[00:46] <rebs> last i checked was maybe 3 months asgo
[00:47] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: you can load balance them as well.
[00:47] <imbezol> sounds like you've got it all figured
[00:47] <thinkpadd> rebs: Have you tried recently?
[00:47] <rebs> 3 months ago
[00:47] <mynameisdeleted> anyways.. just make a new apt fetchign method over http and cdrom
[00:47] <mynameisdeleted> called torrent
[00:47] <thinkpadd> rebs: http://zecheru.com/thinkpad-fingerprint-ubuntu-14-04/
[00:47] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: and a transparent caching proxy is not even noticed, so if it goes down, no one will notice it.
[00:47] <mynameisdeleted> it uses a torrent mirror and fetches the torrent for the deb and rtorrents it
[00:48] <rebs> cool
[00:48] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: Personally, I dont see a reason for torrenting debs :)
[00:48] <thinkpadd> rebs: It did not find my device although.
[00:48] <imbezol> bekks: mine has never gone down and it's nice because it caches a lot more than just apt :D
[00:48] <mynameisdeleted> it will be experiment
[00:48] <bekks> imbezol: Mine too :)
[00:48] <mynameisdeleted> if others like it maybe it gets adopted more
[00:48] <mynameisdeleted> if not.. oh well
[00:48] <mynameisdeleted> I'll use it
[00:48] <bekks> mynameisdeleted: So implement it, as an experiment :)
[00:49] <mynameisdeleted> maybe I'll even submit to ubuntu.. but either way I can host my own ppa
[00:49] <mynameisdeleted> if others like it they are free to use it
[00:49] <mynameisdeleted> and may save the ubuntu official mirrors some load
[00:50] <thinkpadd> rebs: Have u installed sth for trackpad?
[01:05] <Noah> hello?
[01:06] <k1l_> yes, hello
[01:07] <agent_white> Evenin'
[01:22] <U94> hi all How to create a bootable USB stick on Ubuntu
[01:23] <k1l_> U94: what iso is it? ubuntu isos are hybrid and you can dd them just onto the bare usb stick
[01:24] <Solexious> Is there a way to set default printer by program? Its getting boring having to switch to my dymo label printer when I use glables...
[01:24] <U94> k1l_,  yes iso I want to boot windows in usb from linux
[01:25] <Homely_Girl> Hello Collective Brains! :)
[01:25] <k1l_> U94: i dont think that is possible, you need a windows to make a windows stick, afaik
[01:26] <Homely_Girl> I'm finally using Ubuntu 14.04, but having trouble getting my HP Deskjet to print! I installed it 'n even have the blue HP Icon in my task bar, but when I print nothing happens, help please!
[01:26] <U94> k1l_,  ok then :)
[01:26] <kryptonradon> how do I use ssh-add? my old system asked me for my private key password when I logged in, I want to enable that on 14.04
[01:26] <U94> k1l_,  unet bootin cant do that?
[01:26] <k1l_> U94: i dont think so.
[01:27] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Did you use the hp tool to load the drivers?
[01:28] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, I didn't I went to setttings into printer 'n added it, it auto detected it.
[01:28] <U94> k1l_,  ok but i found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-a-iso-to-a-usb-device
[01:29] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Not sure if the icon you see is the hp tool or the printers, if you right click do you see options?
[01:29] <k1l_> U94: then give it a try if you want.
[01:29] <U94> k1l_,  yes thats why I'm going to do right now :) thanks :)
[01:29] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, There are settings
[01:30] <dts|pokeball> hey,,, if anyone can answer this i would be very appreciative https://askubuntu.com/questions/573904/setting-up-subdomains-for-ubuntu-server-14-04
[01:30] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Do you see hp device manager if so open it.
[01:30] <Emanon`1> Hi all, I've got an issue with my computer shutting off while starting up ubuntu. I can run the bios and mem tests (no issues found) without issue but as soon as I go to load up the desktop the computer shuts down mid way. I thought it was the PSU getting overloaded because when I removed the memory to check each one individually it would start, as soon as I
[01:30] <Emanon`1> tried to run with both it would die. I also had it die while running it with one stick after a few hours of being on. Any ideas? 14.04 lts
[01:30] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Lemme plug printer back in 2 mins
[01:30] <bubbasaures> no prob
[01:31] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Done that, now what?
[01:32] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Is the printer showing on the right?
[01:32] <bubbasaures> sorry left
[01:32] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Yes
[01:32] <gsilvapt> Good evening. I can't use my camera properly. It gets upside down either using Skype or Hangouts. I've followed some instructions I found on AskUbuntu and on the forums. It's an Asus laptop. Any suggestion to fix this?
[01:33] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, In the top bar are tools if you linger the cursor they tell you what they do, I would remove the printer let the HP tool add it test and if not working use the diagnose hplip driver option.
[01:34] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Okey dokey, back soon....
[01:34] <Emanon`1> Note that I got a new psu and ruled the psu being an issue out
[01:34] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, My 14.04 setup was actually missing some packages and this fixed it.
[01:35] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, ok
[01:37] <jrm> Hi.  I just intsalled Ubuntu for the first time.  It's in a VM (bhyve with FreeBSD as the host) and I would like to expand the image allocated to the VM following the instructions at the very bottom of this page: https://www.monkeybrains.net/support/bhyve.  I can get up the part (delete 2 and 5), but after that I'm a little lost.  Can anyone point me in the right direction.  Here is the partition table: http://slexy.org/view/s25uLEO49c.
[01:39] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, It's installing missing packages, well done you, let's hope this works!
[01:39] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Mine was working, but I came across this tool on the channel, from a great helper, and just ran it.
[01:40] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Knowledge is power! :D
[01:40] <bubbasaures> working but needed debugging for sure
[01:40] <yukino> I know that I have my wifi drivers installed, but its saying that it is hardware disabled. My "fn" fuction button that I use to disable/enable the wifi switch, doesn't seem to be working
[01:41] <yukino> What would be a good solution?
[01:41] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures,  How do I know when it's done?? :P It's alternating between / | and \
[01:41] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, THe terminal will tell you it's just running
[01:42] <bubbasaures> doing the voodoo that it be doing. ;)
[01:44] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, I'm just so chuffed to have got myself a Lenovo Thinkpad 'cos Ubuntu flies on it!! :D
[01:44] <yukino> I know that I have my wifi drivers installed, but its saying that it is hardware disabled. My "fn" fuction button that I use to disable/enable the wifi switch, doesn't seem to be working
[01:44] <yukino> What would be a good solution?
[01:44] <bubbasaures> !details | yukino
[01:45] <bubbasaures> yukino, Channel needs the wifi hardware your dealing with at the least
[01:46] <yukino> yea, woops, sorry about that: Intel PRO/WIreless 3945ABG
[01:46] <bubbasaures> ;)
[01:46] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, It's failing to communicate with my printer :( I just turned it off 'n on again 'n no....
[01:47] <yukino> This is for the m400 portege toshiba tablet
[01:47] <luzx> hello
[01:47] <hydrajump> why can't I change theme from command line like this `gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme 'Radiance'`
[01:47] <hydrajump> nothing happens
[01:47] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, The HP tools added the printer for you, as I suggested?
[01:47] <Homely_Girl> Yes
[01:48] <kryptonradon> how do I get ssh-add to ask for my password when I log in?
[01:48] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Not seen a no communication in this app, what do you see?
[01:49] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Are you using a usb hub perchance?
[01:50] <Homely_Girl> bubba, no hub, one cable from prn to laptop!
[01:50] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Only a direct usb cable from prn to laptop
[01:51] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, So how do you know the communication is faulty, time and a guess or in the terminal, or other way?
[01:52] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, When I ran the diagnose drivers thingy it goes thru installing missing stuff 'n then red writing comes up saying prn either off or other problem 'n cannot find it.
[01:53] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, I'm trying a different usb socket....standby!
[01:54] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Hmm, the tool can be closed right click quit, I would do that and the printer again just for a test. Standing by otherwise.
[01:55] <ki7mt> well, you may want to check and see if the user is in both dialout and lp groups
[01:55] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, now it said I have no printer configured??
[01:55] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, After?
[01:56] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, No, I was in the middle of rediagnosing the driver when u told me to quit.....so you want me to quit the hp thingy 'n do what to my printer? :)
[01:57] <samthewildone> I'm having a problem here.
[01:57] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, I would restart both off than on.
[01:57] <samthewildone> Its taking me about 10 minutes to connect to freenode now ?
[01:57] <samthewildone> this started happening about 2-3 hrs ago...
[01:57] <bubbasaures> samthewildone, Rest of the net?
[01:57] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures,  I'll shut it all down 'n then printter on first 'n then laptop?
[01:57] <ki7mt> Feed the squirrels more more acorns, they go faster then :-)
[01:57] <samthewildone> also when trying to update, it takes forever.
[01:58] <samthewildone> bubbasaures, I checked my net speed and it is fine.
[01:58] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, No real first or second we are just trying to knock out variables.
[01:58] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, I'll be back!
[01:58] <bubbasaures> samthewildone, My guess servers are slow no problem here, just a guess.
[01:59] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[01:59] <samthewildone> I need to write down that channel
[01:59] <samthewildone> always forget...
[01:59] <samthewildone> bubbasaures, strange... I know it happened around a couple of hours ago but, don't know why.
[02:00] <samthewildone> bubbasaures, I thought my IP was banned.
[02:00] <bubbasaures> samthewildone, I can omly guess on this......so. ;)
[02:00] <bubbasaures> only*
[02:01] <mynameisdeleted> haha.. my local umd mirror is much faster than us.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <mynameisdeleted> still not 20MB/s
[02:01] <mynameisdeleted> but 3MB/s is better than 0.3MB/s
[02:02] <bubbasaures> mynameisdeleted, awesome however off topic.
[02:02] <mynameisdeleted> I'm still making my torrent apt-method
[02:02] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, I'm baaaack!
[02:03] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Sure, you reboot or something?
[02:03] <bubbasaures> none of my business really, ;)
[02:03] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, It's a Thinkpad, it's FAST!!!
[02:04] <Noah> nice
[02:04] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Should I go thru diagnose again?
[02:04] <Kouen> hello
[02:04] <Kouen> is there a way to overwrite Android OS and put Ubuntu for phones
[02:05] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, Not sure what did you do since we last talked?
[02:05] <axel_> hi
[02:05] <bazhang> !touch | Kouen
[02:06] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, I turned laptop off 'n printer off 'n switched on prn then laptop
[02:06] <Kouen> Thanks sorry for my mistake
[02:06] <axel_> hi homely girl
[02:06] <Kouen> salutations ;)
[02:06] <Homely_Girl> axel_, Hi there
[02:06] <axel_> how are you?
[02:07] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, sure, this is beyonde me I think however, could be as simple as a shorting cord.
[02:07] <axel_> homely_girl
[02:07] <Homely_Girl> axel: Frustrated as I can't get my printer working!!
[02:07] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, A good point, will see if I can dig up another usb cable!
[02:08] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, HPLIP device status says communication error!
[02:09] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, You need better help than me, I don;t know how to look at this in the terminal, mine have always just worked.
[02:09] <axel_> homely: can i help you?
[02:10] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures,  I know as Linux systems analyst who lives fairly locally, will invite him for coffee 'n tell him to bring a usb cable! lol
[02:10] <bubbasaures> Homely_Girl, sounds like a plan.
[02:10] <bubbasaures> ;)
[02:11] <nodeman> After a long session i finally got my system to boot manually through initramfs, my /boot is full and corrupted. I have raid5 full disk encryption and lvm, can i just reinstall grub like in this post? or do i need to configure something as well? :http://superuser.com/questions/614257/how-do-i-recreate-a-wiped-boot-filesystem-in-ubuntu
[02:11] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Was so hoping to sort it myself! lol
[02:12] <Homely_Girl> axel_, I've instaled my printer, but am getting communication error! :(
[02:12] <yax51> hello!!
[02:13] <yax51> I seem to be having issues with my ubuntu, and was wondering if anyone could help?
[02:13] <yax51> I am running 14.04 32bit. and just installed the updates
[02:14] <yax51> now, it has no network and no mouse
[02:14] <yax51> using an ethernet cord and usb mouse
[02:15] <bubbasaures> yax51, SWe have ahad kernel upgrades, how you tried an earlier kernel set?
[02:15] <Homely_Girl> axel: if you live in Wales, and have a spare usb cable, I'll make the coffee!!
[02:15] <yax51> bubbasaures: not sure how to do that without network, or a mouse
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> Hey everyone long time :)
[02:16] <bubbasaures> yax51, At grub
[02:16] <yax51> bubbasaures: I'll check it out
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin>  Hey guys quick question i am trying to install wireshark on ubuntu, using apt-get install wireshark, now I have it installed and it wont find my devices unless I run it as root (obviously not recommended) I typed in dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common and it says that allowing nonroot users to run wireshark/being allowed to capture packets, could be a security risk....why is this?
[02:16] <bubbasaures> yax51, If you are not seeing grub tap the shift key as you power on.
[02:17] <Psil0Cybin> If I am following the guide should I ignore that error message? It seems like I am damned if i do, damned if i dont.
[02:19] <yax51> bubbasaures:" Ok, I am showing grub, with ubuntu, and advanced options, and mem tests
[02:19] <yax51> bubbasaures: I found it, :P
[02:20] <yax51> bubbasaures: Ok now I have my mouse back, but still not detecting network via ethernet cable
[02:21] <Homely_Girl> bubbasaures, Thanks for your help, hopefully it is just a dodgy cable!!
[02:21] <bubbasaures> no prob
[02:22] <Homely_Girl> axel_, Thanks for offering to help, but I'm gonna try what bubbasaures suggested.
[02:22] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: A quick search gives me http://wiki.wireshark.org/Security
[02:22] <Homely_Girl> Good by my favourite Brains!! :)
[02:23] <bubbasaures> yax51, Just a test on the kernel, others will be better overall for really good help.
[02:23] <yax51> WOOT!!! ok got it back up!
[02:24] <selsper> n1
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> pksadiq: That wiki states that root access is not required, but my devices cannot be found without root access. It also states....Debian, Ubuntu and other Debian derivatives
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> By installing Wireshark packages non-root users won't gain rights automatically to capture packets. To allow non-root users to capture packets follow the procedure described in /usr/share/doc/wireshark-common/README.Debian
[02:24] <yax51> bubbsaures: thanks for your help. Now is there a way to remove the update kernals from grub, so I don't need to do that each time I boot it up?
[02:24] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common ?
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> yea pksadiq that is the command I ran...
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> in order to add my self to the user-group
[02:25] <michael_j_p> hello fellow linux users
[02:25] <bubbasaures> hello bi-ped
[02:25] <Psil0Cybin> pksadiq: after that command I was going to run sudo usermod -a -G wireshark $USER
[02:25] <bubbasaures> I assume, ;)
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> and it said it should work but that first command, gave me awarning saying its not secure to add my self to the wireshark group or give the group access rights to root , etc
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> so I am jut confused...
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> pksadiq: sorry for bothering you but maybe you can explain this to me, what would be the proper procedure..in order to see my devices....all guides I am reading on the wiki state I need to give the wireshark root access/add my self to the group, instead of just simply doing sudo wireshark
[02:28] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: Did you try this for setup: http://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/CapturePrivileges ?
[02:29] <mijk> hey, I'm trying to set up high reso console in Ubuntu Server
[02:29] <mijk> I can't seem to get i tgoing
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> Well I saw that page, pksadiq but i scrolled down to the Ubuntu section, where it states to view the readme, that says to add my self to the wireshark group....
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> Debian, Ubuntu and other Debian derivatives
[02:29] <Psil0Cybin> By installing Wireshark packages non-root users won't gain rights automatically to capture packets. To allow non-root users to capture packets follow the procedure described in /usr/share/doc/wireshark-common/README.Debian
[02:30] <militantpotato> Hey, I have a dual monitor setup, with a TV connected via an HDMI cable, and my monitor through DVI.  I'm having an issue with GRUB where it only displays on the Television, which is annoying because it is either off, or being used for something else.  What do I add/change in the grub config to force it to show on my primary display (monitor).  I'm using Kubuntu 14.04
[02:30] <Psil0Cybin> but the README, just gives theory but not any commands to execute...I understand in practise what it is stating but i want to double check to make sure I do not do more damage, than good.
[02:31] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: it says dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common, I think.
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> yea that is what I did one second I will copy the exact error message.
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> pksadiq: it says "│ Dumpcap can be installed in a way that allows members of the "wireshark" system group to capture packets. This is      │
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin>  │ recommended over the alternative of running Wireshark/Tshark directly as root, because less of the code will run with  │
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin>  │ elevated privileges.                                                                                                   │
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin>  │                                                                                                                        │
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin>  │ For more detailed information please see /usr/share/doc/wireshark-common/README.Debian.                                │
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin>  │                                                                                                                        │
[02:32] <Ben64> Psil0Cybin: don't do that. are you in the wireshark group? find out by typing "groups"
[02:32] <yax51> Thanks for all your help guys :)
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> Ben64: groups does not even list wireshark yet :P
[02:33] <Ben64> Psil0Cybin: then do that
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> would it be done with $ sudo usermod -a -G wireshark $USER ??
[02:33] <pksadiq> Ben64: He just needs to know whether there is any security issue adding him to wireshark group...
[02:34] <Ben64> Psil0Cybin: yep
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> it says group wireshark does not exist, sorry what would be the proper command to create the group :)
[02:35] <Ben64> you need to do the reconfigure stuff to create it
[02:36] <k1l_> group needs a relogin? or even a reboot?
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> Ben64 when I run the dpkg command, I get this
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/veK5tuq5
[02:36] <trism> Psil0Cybin: on that screen you saw with dpkg-reconfigure, it wasn't an error, you select yes or no with tab and hit enter, yes should create the wireshark group
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> trism: but is that secure, I am aware it is not an error but more of awarning
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> is it safe to hit yes, and add my self/create the group?
[02:37] <Ben64> if you want to capture packets without sudo, yes
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> okay but why would it give me that warning saying it was not advised?
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> Why does it say "Enabling this feature may be a security risk, so it is disabled by default. If in doubt, it is suggested to leave it disabled"
[02:37] <k1l_> Psil0Cybin: because wireshark is a security risk at all
[02:37] <Psil0Cybin> That line just got me worried...
[02:37] <Ben64> it doesn't say that, it says if you don't know what this does, don't do it
[02:38] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: re-read : ...recommended over the alternative of running Wireshark/Tshark directly as root,...
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> okay pksadiq thanks guys just wanted to double check..what you guys thought
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> before i hit yes...
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> would the only security risk , but if someone has access to my machine they can capture my packets?
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> or has ssh access to my machine?
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> is that the only security risk ?
[02:39] <Psil0Cybin> be if ... *
[02:39] <happyfr0gg> Hello. Where does KDE store the splash theme files?
[02:39] <k1l_> Psil0Cybin: really. if you need wireshark not just to break into your neighbours wifi, then you want to read into the documents and get a clue what you do there at all.
[02:39] <Psil0Cybin> k1l_: I am getting it installed for school, we have a whole unit on it after I finish my Cisco course....
[02:40] <k1l_> Psil0Cybin: you actually allow all programs to wireshark your wifi now.
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> I want it to be installed on my computer without installing windows...
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> my class recommends using windows....I want to stick to ubuntu/debian and have wireshark
[02:40] <Psil0Cybin> i just want to make sure i have it installed in a secure manner.
[02:41] <k1l_> there is no secure manner. the program is to break secure manners.
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> k1l_: so, all together, any method i do (adding my self to wireshark group) etc, its all a bad idea for the reason you stated??
[02:41] <k1l_> you just choose in which foot you will be shot. not if at all.
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> LOL good statement...slash analogy
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> so I guess ill just add my self to group and hope for the best...but now I will keep that in mind, all programs could potentially wireshark me....hmm
[02:42] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: Anyway, its much secure than using wireshark and windows. :-)
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> is there a waay to perhaps add my self to group and remove my self from group after use?
[02:42] <Psil0Cybin> lool?
[02:43] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: If you stick on to the packages via official repo (only), you don't need to be much scared of the system to spy on you.
[02:43] <Psil0Cybin> yea I got it all from the offical repos...
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> just I never thought once the program is installed, other programs could use it against me lets say if they where coded too....but i guess it makes sense because by adding my self to group, my user can run wireshark thus allowing any program too...that is correct right?
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> Just want to resay all the information provided so i make sure i got it.
[02:47] <guzzlefry> Does Ubuntu's installer create raids?
[02:47] <compdoc> the server version might
[02:47] <nodeman> guzzlefry: Server version does
[02:47] <bubbasaures> !raid
[02:47] <guzzlefry> oh good
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> pksadiq: so if i understand sorry in very basic form, any method of adding my self to group allows other programs access to capture packets? correct? k1l_
[02:53] <dupingping> Hi
[02:53] <jackie> hi
[02:54] <dupingping> Qt4.8.6 have an error.
[02:54] <dupingping> It's wrong in font rendering.
[02:54] <dupingping> Bandal font could not be shown as Bold in over 48 pt.
[02:55] <dupingping> How can i solve this problem?
[02:55] <pksadiq> Psil0Cybin: If you need to be that much secure, 1. Add a new user and add that user to wireshark group, and use that user only when you need to capture. 2. Use more secure Distro like Debian GNU/Linux. 3. Disable services like ssh. As you said, you are learning, its not wrong to make mistakes. :-)
[02:56] <Ben64> pksadiq: probably shouldn't suggest other distros in #ubuntu ... and debian isn't "more secure"
[02:57] <vince_> HI, My name is Vincent. I need help to configue my touchpad
[02:58] <pksadiq> Ben64: Sorry, Ubuntu frequently updates packages like firefox, where there could be unknown issues, but debian after freeze, it won't modify. That's why I recommended that.
[03:15] <vetulus> #opcharlie
[03:23] <Psil0Cybin> pksadiq: I am really using Debian, at the moment I came here because Debian/Ubuntu is very similar..and i love the people here, SSH is disabled...but thank you that is what i will do!
[03:24] <Psil0Cybin> i will create a new user! :D Thank you pksadiq and everyone, but last question so i create the new user, and then su into that user and then run the dpkg-reconfigure command correct?
[03:25] <bubbasaures> Psil0Cybin, debian has a channel use it
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> :P
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> bubbasaures:
[03:26] <damig> Hi all
[03:26] <bubbasaures> we really just love being lied to
[03:27] <Psil0Cybin> I am not lying to anyone, Ubuntu/Debian same thing really .. no?
[03:28] <Ben64> Psil0Cybin: no!
[03:28] <Psil0Cybin> fine..then i apologize...
[03:28] <Ben64> thats why there are different channels and different names and different websites
[03:28] <Ben64> i see you come in here a lot, don't do so for debain any more
[03:28] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:29] <Psil0Cybin> well i run both Xubuntu and Debian, so I do come here mostly for Ubuntu help
[03:29] <Psil0Cybin> hence why I was quick to ask the question here...i appologize.
[03:30] <damig> I would like to have your advice choosing a new laptop ... I plan to install ubuntu so the linux support is very important for this choice
[03:31] <damig> so I hesitate between an Asus BU401 and an Lenovo Thinkpad T440
[03:33] <damig> There are more laptops certified by Lenovo than by Asus on ubuntu.com
[03:34] <damig> Is that because of hardware compatibility or users prefer Lenovo than Asus ?
[03:36] <damig> With similar devices would you choose Asus or Lenovo ? I would like to have advices based on your linux experience
[03:42] <fermulator> I have backups (Deja-dup) configured in Ubuntu 12.04. Then upgraded to 14.04, and since then all the backups are failing. In the UI, the "Back Up Now..." button in the overivew is greyed out. Does anyone know what's going on here? (some reading hints that the upgrade causes the remote directory to not know the upgraded system?)
[03:51] <derek01> Hey guys,  I had a update to 12.04 from 10.04 fail half way through installing. Gui isn't coming up, although I can hear the sound of the login screen coming up.
[03:54] <derek01> Trying to get WiFi working via command line so I can update, having no luck
[03:58] <OerHeks> derek01, hold shift @boot and use an older kernel, and start the upgrade again?
[03:59] <bubbasaures> derek01, Any screens, things get hidden behind?
[04:00] <bubbasaures> doh login?, my mistake
[04:00] <happyfr0gg> If I create a Windows 7 virtual machine (appliance) using VirtualBox, will I need to purchase a Windows 7 license key?
[04:00] <bubbasaures> happyfr0gg, ##windows
[04:00] <OerHeks> desktop 10.04 support ended some months ago
[04:01] <xangua> like 48 months ago, yes
[04:01] <happyfr0gg> bubbasaures - thanks.
[04:02]  * OerHeks counts to 20
[04:02] <xangua> OerHeks: ooh sorry, 44 months :P
[04:02] <derek01> Oerheks: oldest kernel boots to a failsafe gfx mode, and has no keyboard support. Switching to a any other console brings up nothing
[04:03] <derek01> Under a regular boot I can access a console, but it's being picky about a WiFi connection
[04:03] <OerHeks> derek01, i suggest backup your data and do a fresh 14.04 install
[04:05] <derek01> OerHeks: can't really so that without being able to first download a new release. Which I can't, because I can't get a connection to my router
[04:05] <derek01> Sorry, 12.04 not 10.04
[04:06] <bubbasaures> derek01, 12.04 to 14.04?
[04:09] <derek01> Bubbasaures yes
[04:10] <bubbasaures> derek01, I would agree with the backup and install, however is it backed up now?
[04:10] <derek01> Data isn't an issue. Having an Internet connection to be able to get a new release is.
[04:11] <bubbasaures> derek01, This no nite etho or wifi?
[04:11] <bubbasaures> net*
[04:11] <derek01> Wifi
[04:11] <bubbasaures> derek01, can you try etho?
[04:12] <derek01> Bubba: Not available
[04:12] <bubbasaures> derek01, Cool, well that's all here from me you've painted your self into a corner. ;)
[04:13] <OerHeks> use the machine you are typing on now.
[04:13] <derek01> Cell phone
[04:15] <derek01> Been trying to understand nmcli,  with no luck. I can get it to see the connection, but not tell it to connect to it
[04:17] <derek01> Same with iwconfig, got it to connect and no errors with dhclient eth1, but still no internet
[04:24] <OerHeks> derek01, i think this way:  nmcli c up id <SSID> iface wlan0 # or wlan1 depends on your situation
[04:25] <derek01> Oerheks: unknown connection : ssidhere
[04:26] <hendrich> Before I seriously consider purging Ubuntu from my PC like the Illumenati uses Ebola as a eugenics experiment to remove Africa, I need a kind stranger's help.
[04:26] <hendrich> Where do I go for Driver issues?
[04:26] <OerHeks> hendrich, nice way to ask for help ... not
[04:27] <bubbasaures> one free ignore
[04:27] <OerHeks> derek01, then i am out of ideas, your upgrade wrecked too much i am afraid
[04:28] <derek01> Oerheks: gah. I was afraid I might hear that. Well thanks for the help guys
[04:28] <hendrich> I'm sure Africa will be fine, but I'd really appreciate it if there is somone can mention a suppourt forum or something.
[04:30] <somsip> !ask | hendrich
[04:32] <hendrich> ubottu: Sorry, what?
[04:32] <hendrich> ubottu: What.
[04:33] <hendrich> Holy crap, you really are a bot.
[04:33] <hendrich> What kind of hell did I stumble into
[04:33] <somsip> hendrich: you ask here for driver issues. You just need to give us more details than you have
[04:35] <hendrich> somsip: To be fair I'm just asking for a link to a support forum, but I don't suppose you have an AMD card, do you?
[04:36] <somsip> hendrich: lots of AMD info here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[04:39] <derek01> Oerhek: got it! Found an ethernet cable, auto cleaned old packages, release upgrade and boom! On my way
[04:39] <OerHeks> derek01, great, have fun!
[04:39] <derek01> Thanks again.
[04:40] <hell_> how to add repository?
[04:40] <visiot> how can i enable eMMC on my board , the Memory Card  Interafce is initialized already but i'm not able to see mmcblk in kernel log messages
[04:40] <xangua> hell_: what repository?
[04:40] <OerHeks> hell_, sudo apt-get install add-apt-repository && sudo add-apt-repository <repo>
[04:40] <hell_> to get update from that site...!!
[04:41] <hell_> for skype?
[04:41] <somsip> hell_: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/to-install-skype-4-0-0-8-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[04:41] <OerHeks> hell_, for skype, enable 3th party repo in softwarecenter, skype is in it.
[04:41] <xangua> hell_: what site¿ you just need to enable partner in software centre
[04:42] <hell_> where can i find the software center in backbox ?
[04:43] <xangua> !partner | hell_
[04:44] <somsip> !derivatives | hell_ (backbox is not supported AFAIK)
[04:44] <hendrich> Ubuntu is out of control and there are no brakes, had to restart
[04:45] <hendrich> So is there still anybody who can point me to a support forum?
[04:45] <somsip> hell_: gave you a link already
[04:45] <somsip> hendrich: gave you a link already
[04:45] <hell_> yea ..k
[04:45] <hendrich> somsip: Like I just mentioned, I crashed so I'd appreciate it if you can link me again
[04:45] <somsip> hendrich: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[04:46] <hendrich> kthx somsip, you're kool with a k
[04:47] <hell_> can i format my external harddrive which has been corrupted  ?
[04:47] <hendrich> hell_: Yeah, on Ubuntu atleast
[04:47] <hell_> in backbox and how?
[04:48] <hell_> hendrich: backbox is build on ubuntu as the base...
[04:48] <somsip> hell_: and it's not supported here
[04:49] <hendrich> hell_: Don't use backbox, on Ubuntu I installed Getparted and it worked wonders.
[04:49] <hendrich> *I didn't use backbox
[04:49] <OerHeks> hell_, that info should be here http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/BlackboxDocumentation
[04:49] <hell_> how to do it in ubuntu?
[04:49] <hendrich> Do you have the Ubuntu App Store aka Software Centre?
[04:50] <hell_> yup
[04:50] <hendrich> Search "getparted" in it
[04:50] <hendrich> Then use it to look for your curroupt drive
[04:50] <hendrich> And format with whatever architecture
[04:50] <crazyhorse> hey.. what's the fastest way to get hashes of everyfile on a hdd?
[04:50] <crazyhorse> also will splitting it between cores make a difference, or will it all be IO bound?
[04:50] <hell_> ok....will i able to recover my files?
[04:50] <somsip> !info md5deep | crazyhorse
[04:51] <hendrich> hell: gparted, thats the name
[04:51] <hendrich> hell_: I can't answer that because I'm a linux nub, I don't think gparted does that.
[04:51] <jzp113> hi someone use the pycurl?
[04:52] <somsip> jzp113: people in #python
[04:52] <crazyhorse> somsip: looks interesting
[04:52] <somsip> crazyhorse: if not, http://askubuntu.com/questions/318530/generate-md5-checksum-for-all-files-in-a-directory
[04:52] <hell_> is there anyother way to do it?
[04:52] <jzp113> ok fine
[04:52] <hendrich> So is there an actual way to copy/paste stuff from the desktop to the Ubuntu terminal?
[04:53] <somsip> hendrich: highlight, then middle click in terminal
[04:53] <EriC^^> hendrich: copy and paste what?
[04:53] <cyclob|work> right mouse click in the terminal
[04:53] <hendrich> Neither works
[04:53] <EriC^^> hendrich: are you using xterm?
[04:55] <wad> So I plugged my trusty old USB scanner into my laptop, and I can see it with lsusb. Simple Scan sees it just fine. But when I click "scan", it says "failed, unable to start scan"
[04:55] <wad> Any ideas on how to resolve this issue?
[04:55] <hendrich> Eric^^: I apologize but I think you might as well of asked me where the gnomes keeps their purple rainbow dinosaurs
[04:55] <hendrich> Can you explain it like I'm autistic?
[04:57] <wad> "scanimage -L" doesn't show it. Hmm.
[04:58] <hendrich> wad: It sounds stupid but did you try plugging it out and back in? Thats what I did and it worked.
[04:58] <wad> I'll try it. :)
[04:58] <hendrich> Goodluck bro
[05:00] <EriC^^> hendrich: whats so confusing? are you using xterm ( the terminal )
[05:00] <EriC^^> hendrich: or gnome-terminal ..etc.?
[05:01] <hendrich> Eric^^: I'm afraid that you're speaking an alien language to me
[05:01] <hendrich> Its a big black box.
[05:01] <hendrich> It had white words in it.
[05:01] <hendrich> And I hate it.
[05:01] <hendrich> And I have to log into it.
[05:01] <hendrich> Thats all I know.
[05:02] <EriC^^> ok, in that case let me try not-alien
[05:02] <hendrich> Yes, that would be appreciated.
[05:02] <EriC^^> hendrich: 3H#(^@#h *&^#^$&* (&$& ?
[05:02] <hendrich> Oh.
[05:02] <hendrich> xlr_fff bas45 XXXX
[05:02] <hendrich> [][][][][][][][][][]JOUS]]]]]]
[05:04] <hell_> i am not able to detect my  external harddrive ?
[05:04] <hell_> wat shld i do nw?
[05:04] <hendrich> What the hell_: are you doing?
[05:04] <hell_> yup
[05:05] <hendrich> hell_: Did you format it?
[05:05] <hell_>  not yet...am not abnle to detect tat corrupted harddirve...!!
[05:06] <EriC^^> hell_: sudo parted -l shows nothing?
[05:06] <EriC^^> hendrich: type gnome-terminal
[05:06] <hendrich> gnome-terminal
[05:07] <OerHeks> EriC^^, he is using blackbox, not gnome/unity
[05:07] <EriC^^> in the terminal
[05:07] <hell_> no
[05:07] <EriC^^> OerHeks: oh ok
[05:07] <hell_> its not showing my external harddirve
[05:08] <hendrich> Eric^^: It said a bunch of [stuff] failed.
[05:08] <EriC^^> hell_: maybe try to unplug and plug it back in? what does sudo lsblk -f show?
[05:09] <EriC^^> hendrich: why dont you use fluxbox? it's basically blackbox but with tabs and slightly better
[05:09] <hell_> still the same
[05:09] <EriC^^> ( also written in c++ )
[05:10] <hendrich> Eric^^: What in the unholy fuck is a fluxbox
[05:10] <hendrich> Whats a blackbox
[05:10] <hendrich> What are you saying
[05:10] <hendrich> Is it a black box? Is that the terminal?
[05:10] <hendrich> Is Flux in a box?
[05:10] <hendrich> You're saying things to me and it does not compute
[05:11] <EriC^^> hell_: try sudo blkid maybe
[05:11] <EriC^^> hell_: also try to unplug the hdd then plug it back in
[05:12] <hell_> still the same
[05:12] <EriC^^> hell_: type dmesg | tail after plugging it in, maybe it shows something
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[05:13] <Datz|away> Hi, samba server for some reason, is resetting users password after some length of time. I have to reset it every day. Anyone have any ideas about why, or how to fix this?
[05:14] <hell_> no chanegs
[05:14] <hell_> no changes
[05:16] <hell_> ?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Datz: maybe the #samba guys might know?
[05:18] <Datz> lotuspsychje: good idea, thanks
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> !samba | Datz doublecheck config here maybe
[05:19] <Datz> Thanks, taking a look
[05:20] <hendrich> Who uses an AMD card here?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: best is to ask your question mate
[05:22] <hendrich> lotuspsychje: I don't understand.
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: ask your specific problem here in chat
[05:22] <OerHeks> hendrich, what ati card?
[05:22] <hendrich> Oerheks: HD6770
[05:23] <hendrich> Is it normal for Ubuntu to shit bricks when you switch from Proprietary drivers to Open Source ones?
[05:23] <hendrich> Because now I can't switch back thru Additional Drivers
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: ubuntu version?
[05:24] <hendrich> 14.10
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: did you try 14.04?
[05:24] <hendrich> lotuspsychje: Do I have to reinstall to do that?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: yes, but its recommended to install fresh
[05:25] <hendrich> sheeeeet
[05:25] <hendrich> Goddamn you AMD
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: lets stay polite
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: you can try recoverymode from failsafeX (grub)
[05:26] <hendrich> lotuspsychje: No. I refuse. AMD deserves to be smited upon mercilessly.
[05:26] <hendrich> Also I have no idea what you just asked of me.
[05:26] <hendrich> What is a grub
[05:26] <hendrich> What is failsafeX
[05:26] <hendrich> What is recoverymode
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: you can hold shift at boot, to enter grub and try to recover system
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | hendrich
[05:27] <hendrich> So if I recover system, I can restore it before everything got fucked up?
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: plz keep your language familly friendly
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: that could help yes
[05:27] <hendrich> lotuspsychje: I can still insult AMD right?
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> no
[05:27] <arjun_k> Bus error (core dumped) when trying to open nautilus
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: because you dont know of its amd's fault
[05:28] <arjun_k> how can i resolve that]
[05:28] <arjun_k> ???????
[05:28] <migo65> hello, new to irc
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: can you try gksudo nautilus from terminal plz?
[05:28] <arjun_k> k
[05:29] <migo65> i would like to download movies
[05:29] <hendrich> lotuspsychje: I'll try it
[05:29] <hendrich> migo65: hahahahaha
[05:29] <CtrlAltDelicious> sup everyone?
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !warez | migo65
[05:29] <hendrich> Sup bro
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: good morning mate
[05:29] <OerHeks> hi migo65, download movies? from where?
[05:29] <hendrich> ubottu: Shutup nerd.
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: stop shouting
[05:29] <hendrich> migo65: I assume you wish to download LEGAL movies, RIGHT?
[05:30] <migo65> yes
[05:30] <hendrich> See, its all good.
[05:30] <hendrich> migo65: Which Ubuntu do you have?
[05:30] <tralff> I'm trying to make this alias work and curious if anyone can help
[05:30] <tralff> alias mkHosts='sudo sh -c "cat /etc/hosts.tmpl | sed \"s/THE_IP/$1/g\" > /etc/hosts"'
[05:30] <hendrich> migo65: The one from the website?
[05:30] <migo65> mint
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !mint | migo65
[05:31] <OerHeks> migo65, mint is not supported here
[05:31] <arjun_k> (gksudo:5488): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[05:31] <hendrich> migo65: Does Mint have a search bar?
[05:31] <migo65> yes
[05:31] <arjun_k> when trying gksudo nautilus from terminal
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: hmm that doesnt sound good
[05:31] <arjun_k> yes
[05:31] <hendrich> migo65: See if Mint already has a torrent client in it
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: could you try makeing a new user and start nautilus?
[05:31] <arjun_k> so what we can do now?
[05:31] <OerHeks> arjun_k, hat is just a message, nautilus works right?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: plz no supporting for mint
[05:31] <migo65> tranmission
[05:31] <CtrlAltDelicious> ubottu: How do magnets work?
[05:31] <bubbasaures> arjun_k, What is your goal?
[05:31] <arjun_k> no
[05:32] <arjun_k> i cant open folders in that user
[05:32] <CtrlAltDelicious> lotuspsychje: How do magnets work?
[05:32] <arjun_k> error comes and closes
[05:32] <hendrich> lotuspsychje: Is there a reason why? I'm not questioning your authority I'm legitimately asking if there is a rule.
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: ubuntu support only here are the rules
[05:33] <OerHeks> hendrich, mint has its own issues
 i cant open folders in that user error comes and closes
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: torrent magnets?
 it is working in other users
[05:33] <CtrlAltDelicious> lotuspsychje: What about them?
[05:33] <CtrlAltDelicious> Sure..
 i cant open folders in that user error comes and closes
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: thats not really a question for ubuntu support
[05:34] <bubbasaures> arjun_k, Bad technique is all, and not a clear at all explanation.
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: you can checkout torrent software..
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !torrent | CtrlAltDelicious
 sorry  i didnt get u
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: you can add a magnet link to your torrent client in ubuntu
[05:35] <CtrlAltDelicious> lotuspsychje: Thx
[05:35] <bubbasaures> arjun_k, Honestly if you do not understand you should not be doing it.
[05:35] <CtrlAltDelicious> bubbasaures: Understand what?
 what we can do now?
  what we can do now?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: wich ubuntu version is this?
 12.04
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: are you logged in as the root user?
[05:37] <arjun_k> no
 no
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: from wich to wich are you trying?
[05:37] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: Whats your issue?
 in normal user i was trying to open  a folder. but error comes
[05:38] <CtrlAltDelicious> what folder arjun_k ?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: how did you add the user, with useraccounts icon?
[05:38] <hendrich> So is there a way to copy paste stuff into blackbox?
 i cant open folders in ubuntu 12.04. error comes (Bus error)
[05:38] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: any folder?
 yes. it was working fine till few days back
 yes
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: updated recently?
[05:39] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: Can you open terminal?
[05:39] <arjun_k> lotuspsychje> no. after opening a particular file
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: wich file?
 yes
 a css file
[05:39] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: open terminal, do  cd ~/
[05:40] <CtrlAltDelicious> then ls -la
[05:40] <CtrlAltDelicious> post the results
k. then?
 k
[05:40] <EriC^^> hendrich: hey man so are you in a tty right now? ( ctrl+alt+f1 ) ?
[05:40] <hendrich> EriC^^: Yep.
[05:41] <EriC^^> hendrich: ok, how'd you install the open source driver? from the additional drivers?
[05:41] <hendrich> EriC^^: Yep.
[05:42] <EriC^^> hendrich: ok, type dpkg -l | grep fglrx for me
[05:42] <hendrich> Then I rebooted and suddenly Additional Drivers told me I had "manual drivers" installed and everythign else was blanked out
[05:42] <EriC^^> i see
[05:42] <arjun_k> total 46412
[05:42] <arjun_k> drwxr-xr-x 33 implemer implemer     4096 Jan 15 09:52 .
[05:42] <arjun_k> drwxr-xr-x  4 root     root         4096 Aug 22 09:49 ..
[05:42] <arjun_k> drwx------  2 implemer implemer     4096 Aug 20 20:06 32bitNb74withJDK
[05:42] <arjun_k> -rw-------  1 implemer implemer     2478 Dec 16 13:53 .bash_history
[05:42] <arjun_k> -rw-r--r--  1 implemer implemer      220 Aug 20 19:19 .bash_logout
[05:42] <EriC^^> hendrich: which amd card do you have again?
[05:43] <hendrich> EriC^^: Please tell me your secrets of how I can paste that into terminal?
[05:43] <hendrich> EriC^^: HD6670
[05:43] <hendrich> Or 6770
[05:43] <EriC^^> hendrich: you can't you'll have to type it out
[05:43] <hendrich> nooooooooo
[05:43] <EriC^^> dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[05:43] <EriC^^> just that line
[05:43] <EriC^^> hendrich: type dpkg -l | grep fglrx | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:44] <arjun_k> drwx------  2 implemer implemer     4096 Aug 20 20:06 32bitNb74withJDK
[05:44] <arjun_k> -rw-------  1 implemer implemer     2478 Dec 16 13:53 .bash_history
[05:44] <arjun_k> -rw-r--r--  1 implemer implemer      220 Aug 20 19:19 .bash_logout
[05:44] <arjun_k> -rw-r--r--  1 implemer implemer     3486 Aug 20 19:19 .bashrc
[05:44] <arjun_k> drwx------ 20 implemer implemer     4096 Oct 22 19:38 .cache
[05:44] <hendrich> EriC^^: Alright bro, lemme try
[05:44] <OerHeks> arjun_k, stop
[05:44] <arjun_k> drwx------  3 implemer implemer     4096 Jan 15 09:52 .compiz
[05:44] <EriC^^> hendrich: it will return a link to the stuff
[05:44] <OerHeks> !paste | arjun_k
[05:45] <hendrich> |
[05:45] <hendrich> how do i do that
[05:45] <hendrich> |
[05:45] <hendrich> got it
[05:45] <EriC^^> ok
[05:46] <alez> ää
 pls check the result . http://paste.ubuntu.com/9754012/
[05:46] <hendrich> EriC^^: It told me to use netcat
[05:49] <u-bot> hi
[05:49] <u-bot> hi
[05:49] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: I assume your username is implemer?
[05:49] <cpslcktrjn> hey u-bot
 what we can do now?
 what we can do now?
[05:49] <hendrich> EriC^^: Sorry I'm taking so long, its not working.
[05:50] <hendrich> I don't know if I'm typing it in wrong
[05:50] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: Do  "sudo apt-get moo"
[05:50] <CtrlAltDelicious> paste the results.

[05:50] <explosive> hendrich: 1 sec
[05:50] <hendrich> explosive: One.
[05:51] <EriC^^> hendrich: ok
[05:51] <EriC^^> hendrich: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:52] <arjun_k> h<CtrlAltDelicious> ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9754034/
[05:52] <hendrich> EriC^^: Done.
 user name is developer. currently i logged in to implemer using su
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/9754034/
[05:53] <EriC^^> hendrich: ok type dpkg -l | grep fglrx | pastebinit
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: install 14.04 fresh
 but it is working perfectly for other users in hte system
[05:56] <hendrich> EriC^^: It told me I was trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[05:56] <EriC^^> hendrich: ok, type sudo apt-get install fglrx
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: you can always try an alternative filemanager, to test out the folders you cant open
[05:57] <javi404> what the fuck is going on in here?
[05:57] <hendrich> EriC^^: Oh god by the end of tonight these commands will be burned into my retina
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> !language | javi404
[05:57] <CtrlAltDelicious> hey arjun_k you still here?
[05:57] <hendrich> EriC^^: Done.
 yes
 which file manager?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: checkout software centre
[05:58] <EriC^^> hendrich: ok, try to restart and see if it works
 it is already ther
[05:58] <javi404> lotuspsychje: language?
[05:58] <hendrich> EriC^^: And if it doesn't and horribly mucks up leaving me with a empty desktop and a unchecked Unity plugin?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !info dolphin | arjun_k something like this
[05:59] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: do this:    sudo apt-get install cowsay fortune-mod
[05:59] <EriC^^> hendrich: come back here :)
[05:59] <hendrich> EriC^^: :'(
[05:59] <EriC^^> lol
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: why is this helpfull to install cowsay?
[05:59] <hendrich> EriC^^: Alright, thanks for the help. You're also kool with a k
 this is for?
[06:00] <CtrlAltDelicious> We need to check one more thing
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: check what with cowsay?
[06:00] <CtrlAltDelicious> but you have to install cowsay to do it
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: tell us whats it for first
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: you gonna say moo to nautilus to fix?
[06:02] <CtrlAltDelicious> lotuspsychje: No, thats just silly.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> CtrlAltDelicious: well whats it for then?
[06:02] <javi404> i can't follow this fooking conversation.
[06:02] <CtrlAltDelicious> have you never used cowsay?
[06:02] <CtrlAltDelicious> Seriously??
[06:02] <EriC^^> CtrlAltDelicious: you want to fortunemod | cowsay ?
[06:02] <savoca> install sl
[06:02] <OerHeks> CtrlAltDelicious, how is cowsay fixing issues?
[06:03] <CtrlAltDelicious> OerHeks: Cowsay answers many questions.
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> ..
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !ot > javi404
[06:04] <javi404> can we talk about systemd now?
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> javi404: this channel is for support questions
[06:04] <javi404> ubottu: wtf are you talking about? is systemd not relavent?
[06:04] <javi404> i have a systemd question
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | javi404
[06:04] <EriC^^> javi404: come back in 2016
[06:05] <javi404> maybe i can be allowed to ask it before im banned ffs.
[06:05] <javi404> whats wrong with you guys?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> javi404: there's no reason to get angry
[06:05] <arjun_k> lotuspsychje>what we can do now
[06:05] <hendrich> EriC^^: I came back just to thank you for helping me out man, Ubuntu is working again with OpenGL acceleration.
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> javi404: you said 'talk about'
[06:05] <EriC^^> hendrich: cool, no problem :)
[06:05]  * rww looks up
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: nice fix
[06:06] <javi404> lotuspsychje: how can one not get angry? I didn't even ask my question and im getting PM from bots and mods about being on topic.
[06:06] <hendrich> javi404: Bro, just do what I do.
[06:06] <hendrich> Count from 10.
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> javi404: talking about packages is something else then asking a question
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> javi404: you havent asked a question yet
[06:07] <javi404> lotuspsychje: you don't even know what my question is going to be, because you shut me down before i can ask it.
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> javi404: and your question is?
 what we can do now??
 do i need to stay here or not?
[06:08] <javi404> lotuspsychje: my question was about the path to systemd, but at this point, i should just move my farm to centos and deal with redhat bullshit.
[06:08] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: Did you do this yet?     sudo apt-get install cowsay fortune-mod
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> !language | javi404
[06:08] <rww> javi404: the path to systemd is "wait for the next version of Ubuntu to come out"
[06:08] <javi404> lotuspsychje: what language?
[06:08] <rww> "bullshit"
[06:09] <javi404> ubottu: i was calm untill i ran into you guys
[06:09] <javi404> holy cow
[06:09] <CtrlAltDelicious> apt get moo javi404 ?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> javi404: you can install systemd on ubuntu now, on your own risk..
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !info systemd | javi404
[06:09] <rww> CtrlAltDelicious: can we keep the cowsay and mooing nonsense out of here please
[06:09] <javi404> is this the official ubuntu support channel?
[06:09] <rww> yep
[06:10] <CtrlAltDelicious> rww: Its not non-sense...
[06:10] <hendrich> javi404: No. Its the hidden society of penguin people.
[06:10] <hendrich> Worship the penguin.
[06:10] <hendrich> Love thy penguin.
[06:10] <javi404> hendrich: seems like it.
[06:10] <rww> !behelpful
[06:10] <rww> now, back to actual support questions
[06:10] <javi404> ubottu: your not helpful at all.
[06:11] <javi404> scumbag bot
[06:11] <javi404> who programed that POS?
[06:11] <hendrich> javi404: Whats the problemo bro?
[06:11]  * lotuspsychje is rest my case
[06:11] <rww> Yes, you can install systemd in currently released versions. No, it isn't supported as PID 1 yet. No, I wouldn't recommend doing it.
[06:11] <rww> Anything else?
[06:11] <javi404> hendrich: apparently the problem is, i can't even ask a question in here.
[06:11] <javi404> so much for community support.
[06:12] <rww> might I point out that you haven't actually tried yet
[06:12] <hendrich> javi404: Uh, yeah you can. Granted everyone except Eric has a stick up their butt, but they are trying to help you man.
[06:12] <arjun_k> i thought that u will solve my issues. but no one is trying to give proper solution for the problem
[06:12] <javi404> rww: scroll up.
[06:12] <CtrlAltDelicious> arjun_k: Im sorry man, Ill actulaly help this time
[06:12] <hendrich> Remember, they are doing this FOR FREE. Just ask.
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> arjun_k: did you try an alternative filemanager yet?
[06:12] <CtrlAltDelicious> Do this command, and paste the results
[06:12] <CtrlAltDelicious> sudo apt-get install lolcat
[06:13] <javi404> hendrich: i understand that, but i also help for free in other channels, and dont treat people like this.
[06:13] <chu> javi404: You came in with obscenities, if you had bothered to read the guidelines mentined in the topic. You might understand why you have not been as welcomed here as you (apparently) imagined you would be. This is not the fault of this community, this is entirely your own fault. Smarten up, or leave.
[06:13] <rww> javi404: I did. I don't see a question from you. What is your question?
[06:13] <javi404> chu: obscenities? are you serious?
[06:13] <chu> Dead serious mate.
[06:14] <javi404> rww: scroll up again.
[06:14] <javi404> chu: sorry that bad words hurt you.
[06:14] <hendrich> javi404: Why not just have this chat start from Square One, my friend?
[06:14] <hendrich> here, I'll start
[06:14] <javi404> ill try to confess my sins next time.
[06:14] <hendrich> Hello javi404, what is your problem?
[06:14] <javi404> hendrich: good idea.
[06:15] <javi404> hendrich: im currently running my cloud on centos6
[06:15] <javi404> i don't like centos7
[06:15] <javi404> because of systemd
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> !ot | javi404
[06:15] <rww> lotuspsychje: that's unnecessary.
[06:15] <javi404> how is ubuntu as far as systemd goes?
[06:15] <rww> javi404: Currently-released versions of Ubuntu do not use systemd as PID1. The next version, 15.04, will.
[06:16] <javi404> can someone mute that damn bot?
[06:16] <rww> 15.04 will not support alternative init systems other than systemd, so if you're on the not-a-fan-of-systemd side of the fence, I'd go with something else.
[06:16] <redDawn> OpenRC....
[06:16] <rww> (Debian springs to mind)
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> discussing other distro is ontopic now?
[06:17] <javi404> rww: but what is the game plan for other future versions?
[06:17] <rww> lotuspsychje: Providing background for a support question is ontopic. Goading users is not.
[06:17] <rww> javi404: The game plan for all versions of Ubuntu released in the future is systemd.
[06:17] <hendrich> javi404: Its honestly not close, i don't recommend Ubuntu for systemd yet.
[06:17] <javi404> lotuspsychje: im talking about switching distross pay attention.
[06:17] <supercom32> Do most OS's like Ubuntu need to handle ware leveling on SSD's or is that something which should happen transparently?
[06:17] <rww> supercom32: It's done using TRIM in the Linux kernel.
[06:18] <hendrich> Why is a Linux Kernel called a kernel?
[06:18] <supercom32> rww: So outside of TRIM, does it do anything else? or is it up to the SSD to do the rest?
[06:18] <javi404> hendrich: well that is what i need to consider.
[06:18] <rww> supercom32: As far as I know, the only thing the OS worries about is supporting TRIM, and the SSD does the rest itself.
[06:19] <zerowaitstate> hendrich: it's actually called a kernel is most OS'es, it's just you hear it more in Linux because you can actually compile it yourself
[06:19] <undecim> hendrich, because it's the center of the system, like the kernel of a seed
[06:19] <supercom32> rww: I've been told by some people that to keep your drive running fast, you should only fill it to about 75% usually. If you simply partition/size only 75% of the space, would that work? or does the whole drive need to be partitioned for the SSD ware leveling to know about it and use that space?
[06:20] <javi404> so why would i move my current cluster to ubuntu?
[06:20] <hendrich> zerowaitstate: Why would you want to compile a kernel yourself?
[06:20] <rww> supercom32: I don't know, sorry. You might want to ask ##hardware.
[06:20] <undecim> supercom32, You need to keep 75% of the filesystem space empty
[06:20] <zerowaitstate> zerowaitstate: to support new, interesting, or experimental things
[06:20] <javi404> supercom32: morons told you that
[06:20] <rww> javi404: Presumably you'd do so if you test it and it works better for you than other distros.
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> so far for ubuntu support...
[06:20] <hendrich> javi404: You don't.
[06:21] <javi404> rww: hendrich: basically what your saying is i should keep centos?
[06:21] <supercom32> javi484: Doesn't filling up your drive to capacity mean longer write times due to having to flush blocks and  write them again, vs just writing to an empty block?
[06:21] <javi404> supercom32: lrn2tab
[06:21] <rww> javi404: I'm saying that if you're considering switching, you should spin up Ubuntu on your testing gear and see if it works better for you than CentOS.
[06:21] <hendrich> javi404: Apparently Ubuntu just had a giant Pitstorm around systemd because the guys behind Ubuntu are neckbeard.
[06:21] <rww> If it does, then great. If not, stick with CentOS or use something else.
[06:21] <hendrich> javi404: Quote: "Finally, after Debian, Ubuntu's parent Linux distribution, voted for systemd , Ubuntu's founder Mark Shuttleworth announced that Canonical would support systemd rather than continue to push for Upstart."
[06:21] <undecim> supercom32, If you just have your partitioned sized like that, it's the same as having a smaller drive. They OS needs room to work, so files can be spaced out in case the sizes are changed
[06:22] <ki7mt> hendrich, to enable features that may not be enabled by default, or remove unwated features, re: Kernel: "der Kern" which I would translate to "the core".
[06:22] <rww> "pitstorm"? Ubuntu's switching to systemd, it's not controversial with us because we've *always* only supported one init system *shrug*
[06:22] <hendrich> javi404: So basically its way too early and you really should either stick with CentOS or look around.
[06:22] <hendrich> rww: I was told not to sweat by the Penguin God
[06:22] <hendrich> *swear
[06:22] <javi404> rww: im looking for professional feedback, you don't seem to have any, so just stop answering my questions unless you have run a 1000 node ubuntu cluster and can provide real world useful advice.
[06:23] <redDawn> If you want the greatness of a SysV Init system, look into Gentoo
[06:23] <hendrich> Gentoo is love
[06:23] <rww> javi404: Nobody here has run a 1000 node Ubuntu cluster, and I run Ubuntu professionally.
[06:23] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: filling the drive lowering performance is usually a filesystem efficiency issue relating to fragmentation. Linux handles fragmentation differently than Windows
[06:23] <undecim> Does 1k VMs count?
[06:23] <ki7mt> I have, but not with Ubuntu
[06:23] <javi404> undecim: yeah, that counts
[06:23] <hendrich> I have a robot that shoots 300 Ubuntu cluster bombs for the US military
[06:23] <redDawn> Uh oh... i sense a p!ssing match
[06:24] <undecim> javi404, gimme a couple days...
[06:24] <rww> hendrich: cut it out with the nonsense
[06:24] <javi404> rww: then I am asking for advice in the wrong place.
[06:24] <rww> javi404: then leave.
[06:24] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: I was under the impression for SSD drives this was diffrent as you can only write in blocks. Thus, if a block is partially filled, you need to read it out, modify and check in again. Vs just writing to an empty block.
[06:24] <supercom32> perhaps the performance loss isn't a lot, but I guess there is something
[06:24] <redDawn> doesn't the OS just see it as a generic block device anyway?
[06:24] <hendrich> Why would people want to compile their own kernels?
[06:25] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: that's true, but a lot of SSD's include wear-leveling firmware to counteract that.
[06:25] <ki7mt> javi404, That was my next statement, very few in there would have high level HPC experience, but I'm sure they are lurking from time to time
[06:25] <redDawn> hendrich, to det rid of unneccesary feautres that take up space and slow the kernel
[06:25] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: in essence, that's what TRIM does as well
[06:25] <rww> hendrich: generally, it's if the stock kernel doesn't enable something they need for their hardware
[06:25] <redDawn> or to enable special non standard features
[06:25] <rww> some people do it for performance reasons, but I've never found that to be particularly effective
[06:25] <hendrich> redDawn: Can you give me a basic example?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> nice ontopic conversation...
[06:25] <redDawn> hendrich: Well, say you want to use a specia lTV tuner card....
[06:25] <undecim> supercom32, It would depend on the drive firmware
[06:26] <rww> lotuspsychje: If you're just going to sit here and ma                         │06:21:56         < hendrich> | javi404: Quote: "Finally, after Debian, Ubuntu's parent Linux distribution, voted for systemd , Ubuntu's founder Mark Shuttleworth announced that Canonical would support
[06:26] <rww> ... damn cat
[06:26] <rww> let's try that again
[06:26] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: I see
[06:26] <hendrich> redDawn: And normally its not suppourted by Ubuntu, you'd build it yourself to do it?
[06:26] <rww> lotuspsychje: if you're just going to sit here and make comments about on-topicness, perhaps it's time to take a break for a while
[06:26] <redDawn> Well, imean in general linux.
[06:26] <redDawn> In ubuntu
[06:26] <hendrich> So the kernel is like
[06:27] <hendrich> The brain?
[06:27] <ki7mt> Yes
[06:27] <supercom32> undecim: I assume even if you don't partition the whole SSD, the SSD firmware won't care. It will wear level over the whole device under the hood for you?
[06:27] <javi404> ki7mt: i notice that now. im just surprised that before i can even get to my question, there is a pissing match and i get targetted for censorship.
[06:27] <undecim> supercom32, It should. yeah
[06:27] <hendrich> And people compile kernels to do what they want? I see, never knew that.
[06:27] <redDawn> The kernel manages the physical resources of the system so programs I write can use those resources
[06:27] <redDawn> Like keyboard input, memory, harddisks
[06:27] <hendrich> redDawn: Thanks, I want to learn everything now.
[06:28] <hendrich> Why is Linux called Linux?
[06:28] <redDawn> I can suggest a few seminal books
[06:28] <undecim> hendrich, Linus's Minix
[06:28] <hendrich> redDawn: Go ahead
[06:28] <redDawn> "A quarter Century Of Unuix"
[06:28] <hendrich> What exactly *is* Linux?
[06:29] <hendrich> If the kernel is the brain
[06:29] <javi404> ki7mt: are there any people in here i should talk to maybe tomorrow when the children are in school?
[06:29] <hendrich> Then whats Linux?
[06:29] <ki7mt> javi404, I can discuss Infiniband, Realtime regression for Lithography Mask targets, Maxwell's equations , HDP, ETCH, etc etc and the like, but that is really way OffTopic here., but
[06:29] <redDawn> Linux is  particular Kernel developed by Linus Torvalds and a few others
[06:29] <undecim> hendrich, technically, just the linux kernel
[06:29] <redDawn> its a free and open-source kernel anyone can use or change
[06:29] <Guest85512> a people whose name is Linus
[06:29] <redDawn> Now, the operating system that ubuntu is based on is called GNU
[06:30] <javi404> ki7mt: really what i want to know is, are their any advantages to looking at ubuntu.
[06:30] <undecim> hendrich, It's the piece of code that runs directly on the CPU in a Linux OS. It acts as the interface between hardware and software.
[06:30] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: under the hood, what a lot of wear leveling firmware does is remap disk block locations so that sequential writes are physically sequential on the ssd. You can achieve the same effect with a log-structured filesystem
[06:30] <redDawn> "GNU is not Unix" A free and open Unix
[06:30] <javi404> systemd sucks, so might as well reevaluate.
[06:30] <hendrich> Then if Linux is a open-source Kernal made by Linus, what is Unix?
[06:30] <hendrich> Is Linux Unix?
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> rww: ill take a break allright, but this time your wrong about it
[06:30] <rww> javi404: If you don't like systemd, switching to a distro that's moving to systemd is probably not your best option.
[06:30] <ki7mt> hendrich, What are you trying to do, get a better understanding of Linux in general or do you have a Ubuntu specific problem?
[06:30] <redDawn> IS linux Unix? A question still debated.
[06:30] <redDawn> It IS unix like
[06:30] <javi404> rww: are you blind?
[06:30] <undecim> It's close enough
[06:30] <redDawn> Its a clone
[06:30] <javi404> rww: read what i just wrote again.
[06:31] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: For SSD devices, is a SWAP file/partition still required or recommended? Or will this just somehow effect wear leveling or performance?
[06:31] <hendrich> ki7mt: Well, in order to ask questions about Ubuntu, I need to know what the heck Ubuntu is
[06:31] <javi404> rww: i talked about reevaluating all distros.
[06:31] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: i don't recommend putting swap on an SSD
[06:31] <redDawn> Basicaly, Unix was this amazing thing, but it was licensed, and some hackers hated that
[06:31] <rww> oh for god's sake
[06:31] <redDawn> so they made a free one, called it GNU
[06:31] <xtpeeps> ./test:error while loading shared libraries :libstdc++.so.6:Connor  open shared object file :No such or directory
[06:31] <undecim> Was wondering how long that would take...
[06:31] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: i mean, you can, but swap will wear out the ssd due to frequent changes
[06:32] <ki7mt> javi404, It's all Application Dependant, you can spen more $$ on R&D trying to answer that question rather than just investing in the app development itself.
[06:32] <hendrich> I see, so a Kernel is the brain. Unix was a closed kernel which made people mad. Linus made Linux to have an open Kernel and Ubuntu was born out of Linux.
[06:32] <hendrich> Did I get that right?
[06:32] <rww> ki7mt: you might want to move to PM, we tired of the abuse here
[06:32] <bubbasaures> zerowaitstate, SSD's now have the same mean life as spinning ones.
[06:32] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: Something that wear leveling at the firmware level won't handle well I assume?
[06:32] <undecim> hendrich, pretty much
[06:32] <chu> hendrich: There's a book called "Just for Fun" you should find a copy of and read.
[06:32] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: bubbasaures is correct, really. It's less of a problem now than it was a few years ago
[06:32] <Guest85512> Why couldn't i name "jackie" in this chanel?
[06:33] <redDawn> Another great book:
[06:33] <phroa`> yo rww
[06:33] <redDawn> The design of Unix operating system by Maurice j Bach
[06:33] <rww> Guest85512: because someone already owns that on the IRC network we use
[06:33] <hendrich> So if Ubuntu is just a kernel, whats GNOME or Cinnamon? Are they just GUIs for the kernel?
[06:33] <redDawn> No, ubuntu is not a kernel
[06:33] <redDawn> Ubuntu Uses the linux kernel
[06:33] <bubbasaures> Guest85512, it is not the channel someone is registered with freenode
[06:34] <undecim> hendrich, Ubuntu isn't a new form of Linux Ubuntu has a copy of Linux (the "linux" packages) that it uses. I'd hesitate to call the kernel a brain (though it does a lot of intelligent stuff). It's not making decisions on what to do; that's the applications' job
[06:34] <ki7mt> hendrich, If you know nothing of Ubuntu, I would start here : https://ubuntu-manual.org/
[06:34] <redDawn> https://www.gnu.org/
[06:34] <redDawn> That site explains it very well, becuase they have been exlpaining it since the 80s
[06:34] <redDawn> lol
[06:34] <hendrich> thanks bro
[06:34] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: Ah, that helps thanks for the advice! To prevent SSD performance bottlenecks, how much free space would you recommend to have open?
[06:35] <ki7mt> I help write some of it, over the years.
[06:35] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: That is, space so the SSD firmware can do it's magic to try and keep things speedy and wear leveled
[06:35] <redDawn> If you want to learn to progam, I advise doing it in a Linux (Ubuntu or whatever) with C.
[06:35] <redDawn> C is the language of unix.
[06:36] <undecim> hendrich, The kernel is like a government
[06:36] <ki7mt> C++ and Python, and C being a close third.
[06:36] <redDawn> Python didn't exist for most of the unix history
[06:36] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: I honestly would not worry too much about it. A bigger concern is making sure the disk doesn't get full and crash something
[06:36] <redDawn> Now the language of linux? prob C++
[06:36] <undecim> hendrich, For example, any time a program needs more RAM, it asks the kernel through an "alloc" function, and the kernel finds it some free RAM and tells the program where it's at.
[06:37] <Ghost96> er.. anyone can guide me to install rtorrent & rutorrent in ubuntu 14.04 vps?
[06:37] <hendrich> So the kernel acts as the Admin of the OS?
[06:37] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: what are you running on this box?
[06:37] <aeon-ltd> Ghost96: not in the repos?
[06:37] <ki7mt> I would not n't say C++ is the language of Linux, it's just a very good starting point.
[06:37] <Ghost96> yeah, i'm using repos
[06:37] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: Well, the reason I asked is because If I leave space on a drive, I tend to fill it up with junk (^_^); I plan to put Ubunu 14.04 on it.
[06:37] <aeon-ltd> Ghost96: is rtorrent there?
[06:38] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: Or at least the head of stream non-LTS version of Ubuntu.
[06:38] <OerHeks> Ghost96, sudo apt-get install rtorrent
[06:38] <undecim> hendrich, it also lets programs manage files. Whenever you need open a file, the program does a syscall to the kernel to open and read it
[06:38] <OerHeks> rutorrent does notexist.
[06:38] <hendrich> undecim: I see
[06:38] <hendrich> So what exactly are the terminals and why are there 4 of them? I tried using one and when i tried doing two terminals do things at once, one got unhappy and stopped whatever it was doing.
[06:38] <ki7mt> hendrich, The kernel is the interface between the physical hardware and what you eventually see as the user. It has lots of modules and apps that help it do it's thing.
[06:38] <hendrich> Is the GUI basically a fancy terminal?
[06:39] <Ghost96> .. for rutorrent i fetch it at rakshasa.no
[06:39] <undecim> hendrich, terminals are just apps
[06:39] <xtpeeps> Anyone can help me ,what's the meaning is this :  ./test:error while loading shared libraries :libstdc++.so.6:Connor  open shared object file :No such or directory
[06:39] <hendrich> undecim: Why can't they have graphics if they are apps?
[06:39] <hendrich> Why are they black and ugly?
[06:39] <undecim> hendrich, basically any program has an input stream and an output stream
[06:39] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: most bottlenecks on filesystems for direct attach disks is related to seek time. For SSD that is non-existent, which means you will hit either software or SATA bus limitations first.
[06:40] <redDawn> "Operating System Concepts 2012" I have an older version, has dinosaurs on cover. Highly recomend
[06:40] <undecim> hendrich, the terminal lets you see the output, and send text to the input
[06:40] <CtrlAltDelicious> xtpeeps: Means it cant find libstdc++.so
[06:40] <OerHeks> xtpeeps, seems like you haven no libstdc++.so installed
[06:40] <amh345> I'm trying to install vpn for cisco in ubuntu. as it turns out the cisco linux vpn app is really outdated and doesnt work with newer distress.
[06:40] <redDawn> you can get all these books without cost on the net in pdf format... if you choose
[06:40] <CtrlAltDelicious> sudo apt-get updatedb
[06:40] <CtrlAltDelicious> then do  locate libstdc++.so
[06:40] <amh345> anyone deal with this before?
[06:40] <CtrlAltDelicious> see if it shows up anywhere
[06:40] <undecim> hendrich, in Ubuntu, it launches a program called Bash to give you control of the system through text commands
[06:40] <hendrich> undecim: Why not it does that without looking like MSDOS? Can I replace them?
[06:40] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, More than likely, you have a linker error or lib missing for the test
[06:40] <aeon-ltd> hendrich: text based, it requires very little rendering so not much power is needed to display termnals
[06:40] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: That's a good point.
[06:41] <undecim> hendrich, Are you talking about the Ctrl+Alt+F* terminals?
[06:41] <amh345> i found a link that apparently has patches for it.. but it's on stand ford uni's website and you need a login.
[06:41] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: i've had SSD's on an LSI MegaRAID card, and the raid card ended up being the bottleneck
[06:41] <hendrich> undecim: Yea
[06:41] <mallory> french?
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> !fr | mallory
[06:41] <undecim> hendrich, just use the terminal app...
[06:41] <xtpeeps> Letme see THX,guys!
[06:41] <undecim> hendrich, You can change the fonts and colors and stuff
[06:41] <hendrich> undecim: Yeah, lemme rephrase my question
[06:42] <OerHeks> xtpeeps, sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[06:42] <hendrich> See how fancy Pidgin IRC is? Its all purple, white, sexy, appealing, has tabs and everything.
[06:42] <hendrich> The terminal is ugly as sin and basic
[06:42] <redDawn> https://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/e/e2/Flow1.jpg
[06:42] <redDawn> A bsic fowgraph
[06:42] <hendrich> So if the terminal is an app, why isn't there a terminal app for noobs?
[06:42] <redDawn> The "terminal" is the SHell
[06:42] <zerowaitstate> supercom32: frankly, once you hit a certain number of IOPS, stuff like the linux kernel itself can actually become a bottleneck.
[06:42] <undecim> hendrich, You're saying you don't want a text-based interface?
[06:43] <hendrich> undecim: I guess so, is that possible on ubuntu?
[06:43] <CtrlAltDelicious> xtpeeps: Do this:   sudo ln -s /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so
[06:43] <CtrlAltDelicious> and try again
[06:43] <undecim> hendrich, Yeah. It's what Ubuntu devs have spent a lot of time on.
[06:43] <undecim> We call it Ubuntu
[06:43] <redDawn> The text based interface is an amazingly powerful tool to programmers and powerusers. But if you want all major linux distros (ubuntu included) support GUI
[06:43] <supercom32> zerowaitstate: I see. I guess with modern SSD's a lot of these older problems are no longer an issue.
[06:44] <undecim> The great thing about a terminal is that its unambiguous
[06:44] <hendrich> undecim: Then why do I still need to use the terminal for things like downloading fglrx?
[06:44] <undecim> hendrich, Because ubuntu and AMD haven't gotten that intimate yet
[06:44] <redDawn> Infact ubuntu is the leading Linux Distro for people new to Linux.
[06:44] <CtrlAltDelicious> xtpeeps: did that help?
[06:44] <OerHeks> hendrich, you don't have to
[06:44] <hendrich> If Ubuntu is the leading Linux Distro for new people then it has failed for anyone using it to game.
[06:44] <redDawn> ?
[06:44] <redDawn> Steam on Linux?
[06:44] <hendrich> Yeah.
[06:45] <redDawn> Half life series, portal series, Arma 3
[06:45] <undecim> There's nothing Ubuntu can do about that. The game makes have to make their games more portable
[06:45] <hendrich> So far either Ubuntu or AMD has fucked up horribly and drivers became a huge pain in the ass.
[06:45] <redDawn> We can't force other people to do things, so if they don't want to make a game for us...
[06:45] <undecim> hendrich, I had to add nomodeset to my kernel line to get mine working
[06:45] <hendrich> This is my second reinstall because the last time the drivers shut Unity down
[06:45] <redDawn> Also 0ad is a great RTS like Age of empires
[06:46] <OerHeks> !language | hendrich
[06:46] <undecim> hendrich, I can't recall what it did before I changed it. Don't recall it being pretty.
[06:46] <hateball> If you're looking to game, it helps doing research so you can avoid AMD and go for nVidia or Intel
[06:46] <hendrich> it hurts being poor
[06:46] <redDawn> Hate, nothing is wrong with AMD.
[06:46] <undecim> I still get better results with AMD
[06:46] <undecim> It just takes some fiddling with drivers
[06:47] <redDawn> AMD is a great company with good hardware
[06:47] <ki7mt> Some fiddling ? that's a joke right ;-)
[06:47] <undecim> ki7mt, Sounds like you had to try a few different things to get yours working. But don't think your experiences are universal
[06:47] <zerowaitstate> frankly, the video manufacturers have a hard time keeping up with kernel developments. Linux kernel changes WAY faster than Microsoft, Apple, etc.
[06:47] <hendrich> Why is that?
[06:48] <ki7mt> I got nothing against AMD, got a 32-core Workstation that is awesome.
[06:48] <undecim> nice
[06:48] <zerowaitstate> ki7mt: do you cook your breakfast on it?
[06:48] <hendrich> Why can M$ get away with not updating their kernel often but distros like ubuntu does?
[06:48] <redDawn> hendrich, Linux isn't windows. Though it is in every technical way superior as a result of the Unix Heritage and the FOSS philosophy; we cannot force developers to develop on it. And most end user use windows, so most games a written for Windows.
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !offtopic
[06:49] <undecim> hendrich, because Windows has to support every piece of software and pluggable gizmo you can think of
[06:49] <rww> Indeed. Can we take the hardware debate and the "closed source software makes my gaming hard" to #ubuntu-offtopic, please?
[06:49] <redDawn> And M$ wont show us the code.
[06:49] <hendrich> rww: Okay dokey
[06:49] <undecim> hendrich, And changes to the kernel can cause problems with it. In the Linux world, package managers and the benefits of open source make this less of a problem
[06:49] <zerowaitstate> lotuspsychje: very well sir
[06:50] <jnhghy> I've installed smartmoontools to test my ssd (my system was freezing so started testing things) and when I run "smartctl -a /dev/sda" I get error and I think the ssd needs to be replaced, can anybody confirm: http://pastebin.com/2QWMZWbd
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: did you change bios from ide to ahci?
[06:51] <hendrich> Where can I go to change the performance/appearance settings of Ubuntu? I see apperance but it doesn't affect anythign like the transparency/window effects
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: install ccsm
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> hendrich: some unity effects there to tune
[06:51] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: I'll have to check that as this is set up for a while now and I can't remember .... can that cause that error to be displayed?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: wich ubuntu version and ssd brand plz?
[06:52] <hendrich> Why does Ubuntu have Amazon and why did so many people get butthurt over it? Is it there to stay?
[06:52] <zerowaitstate> jnhghy: you need to switch your bus mode to AHCI regardless.
[06:52] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 14.04 ssd Kingstone
[06:52] <rww> hendrich: Ubuntu hasn't included Amazon in Unity search results for a while now.
[06:52] <hendrich> Really? This is 14.10 and its still there.
[06:52] <redDawn> hendrich, Most people who use linux prided themselves on systems that had no Microsoft style bloatware.
[06:52] <hendrich> Fresh off the site.
[06:53] <rww> hendrich: That's odd, considering I tested it literally last week.
[06:53] <rww> The icon is on the bar by default. Search results are not.
[06:53] <hendrich> No, unless the website on my W7 machine gave me some wierd version, they are infact there.
[06:53] <hendrich> I know because I disabled them.
[06:54] <mariuscc> I got a problem installing mongo extension for php, I upgraded php to 5.4 from 5.4 it used to work on that version, but now when I reinstall mongo it seams that the api version is not compatible
[06:54] <rww> Good, sounds like you're all sorted as far as Amazon goes, then.
[06:54] <xtpeeps> CtrlAltDelicious:hn..known something but still have programs... THX  man
[06:54] <hendrich> Yeah, but will it always be there?
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: takes long loading on pastebin
[06:54] <CtrlAltDelicious> xtpeeps: Do what?
[06:54] <rww> hendrich: that sort of thing goes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: can you paste to pasteubuntu plz?
[06:54] <mariuscc> now idk how to check if there's a compatible version or I'm doing something wrong
[06:55] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9754229/ thank you for your effort
[06:55] <hendrich> rww: I disagree, I'm asking if there is a reason to worry if Amazon is bloatware/spyware and if its better if I remove it.
[06:55] <hendrich> Amazon is apart of Ubuntu so I need suppourt for this question
[06:55] <redDawn> You can do anything you would like, its your system. It won't break anything if you remove it.
[06:56] <puppy> 0.0
[06:56] <rww> hendrich: No it's not bloatware or spyware, and you already know how to remove it and whether to do so is up to you.
[06:56] <hendrich> redDawn: Alright, thanks.
[06:56] <puppy> 说话说话
[06:56] <zerowaitstate> mariuscc: that question really needs to go to #php, although i feel your pain. php is a crime against humanity.
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: does sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda show anything?
[06:56] <redDawn> As is javascript.
[06:56] <rww> puppy: #ubuntu-cn for Chinese-language discussion, please
[06:56] <mariuscc> zerowaitstate: thanks alot
[06:57] <xtpeeps> CtrlAltDelicious:working on my codes,seems I didn't install opencvd
[06:57] <CtrlAltDelicious> xtpeeps: ah, cool.
[06:58] <redDawn> I think whether is bloat-ware or not is debatable, but not here. It isn't spyware for sure
[06:58] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, You should not have created a link either, eventually, that will break you builds.
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> redDawn: it's as much spyware as google services are spyware
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: i would doublecheck sata cables, bios layout, ide to ahci change and firmware upgrade of your kingston
[06:59] <redDawn> I did say that? didn't I?
[06:59] <redDawn> I said it is debatable that is bloatware
[07:00] <redDawn> spyware is only spyware when it claims to be something else
[07:00] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: thanks for your suggestion, it just freeze so I'll have to reboot it if I'm on it I'll also check the cables and bios, thanks for the suggestions and your time, I really appreciate it :)
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: no sweat mate
[07:00] <xtpeeps> ki7Mt: I download the files from web , the author linked it
[07:00] <redDawn> I do like the unite search of papers though
[07:00] <redDawn> *unity
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: when did this all start to happen?
[07:01] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, It's up too you ... but soon or later, that will be an issues if your your linking compiler libs
[07:01] <ki7mt> s/soon/sooner/
[07:01] <shadaloo> hi anyone know how to get vlc to play videos while I'm alt+tabbing
[07:02] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: a few days ago... it first showed an "Operating System Not Found" error, I've rebooted it and it started... then stated freezing ... I don't remember any major changes that could have this impact (no bios changes at least)
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: is this an uefi machine?
[07:03] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: yes
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: did ubuntu work properly before on your ssd?
[07:03] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: for about 2 months yes
[07:04] <freedom101> rww: You may not know this but in 1933 a group of people started to impose the same sort of censorship you do on this irc channel, except instead of just banning someone with the click of a mouse, they rounded them up and gassed them. This group of people were the Nazi. Now you might justify to yourself why you kick people from this channel because you don't like bad words or don't agree with their ideas, but lets be clear. You are
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: hmm thats weird indeed, did you change anything recently?
[07:04] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: I'll start checking cables ... thanks for your help :)
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> jnhghy: okay good luck mate
[07:04] <jnhghy> lotuspsychje: thanks
[07:04] <xtpeeps> ki7Mt: my Qt version too old
[07:06] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, then use pbuilder
[07:07] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, Or use the opensource-installer and stcik it in /opt
[07:08] <redDawn> freedom ??
[07:08] <redDawn> are you smoking crack?
[07:09] <xtpeeps> libstdc++.so.6 need for arm
[07:09] <xtpeeps> Not for Intel
[07:09] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, Install the cross compilers then
[07:11] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, That's where I'll leave is, as I don;t deal / work well with the arm devices, they get under my skin real quick.
[07:12] <ki7mt> redDawn, he had an opinion, however misguided it may have been, it was definitely in the wrong channel :regardless.
[07:12] <xtpeeps> ki7mt:okey,okey ,  I finished it Thank you!!!
[07:13] <redDawn> A guy comes in and accuses channel operators of being nazi death camp operators and you say "eh just an opinion"
[07:13] <redDawn> the lulz
[07:14] <xtpeeps> ki7mt: it really means alot to me
[07:14] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, what does? this program ?
[07:16] <ki7mt> redDawn, It is an opinion, he's entitled to it, just as rww was entitled to boot his @ss out for saying something so silly.
[07:16] <rww> Probably best if we just get back to support instead of pondering it too much :)
[07:16] <redDawn> ;P
[07:20] <u-bot> hi
[07:21] <xtpeeps> ki7mt:yes ,I'm working on my graduate proj
[07:22] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, Ok, been there, done that, just glad it wasn't ARM :-)
[07:23] <ki7mt> Anyway, I have to file some ITP's for packages. so CUL
[07:29] <xtpeeps> ki7mt, I am using OpenCV  for arm , do you know something about it ?
[07:30] <ki7mt> xtpeeps, Other than it's a Gtk cross compiler setup, no, not allot really.
[07:32] <dsnyders> !xorg.conf
[07:32] <xtpeeps> ki7mt,ok Thank you all the same
[07:36] <u-bot> hello guys, can somebody advice me any software for web programming? ))
[07:37] <ki7mt> u-bot, depends on what kind of advise is needed, that's the question?
[07:37] <Stanley00> u-bot: html/html5/php/js/python... plenty of them :3
[07:37] <cfhowlett> u-bot, gedit for editor is already on your system
[07:37] <ki7mt> s/that's/what is/
[07:37] <joody> hello
[07:37] <Stanley00> u-bot: oops, sorry, misread the question :(
[07:38] <OerHeks> !IDE
[07:39] <u-bot> thanks)
[07:40] <kernix> hey all
[07:40] <OerHeks> hi kernix
[07:41] <kernix> hey OerHeks
[07:41] <shadaloo> hi anyone know how to get vlc to play videos while I'm alt+tabbing
[07:41] <bubbasaures> shadaloo, This 15.04?
[07:43] <bubbasaures> shadaloo, keyboard has shortcuts, you might look there, you asked in the development channel is all.
[07:44] <mody_> hello
[07:44] <u-bot> hi
[07:44] <OerHeks> shadaloo, you want to start a movie without mouse? use space to start
[07:44] <xtpeeps> Anyone know image2LCD
[07:45] <xtpeeps> How can I use it in Linux
[07:46] <cfhowlett> xtpeeps, meh.  pretty ghostscript already does that.
[07:46] <OerHeks> !find image2LCD
[07:46] <xtpeeps> ==
[07:46] <ki7mt> Dont know about image2LCD but, check into ImageMagic or GIMP for *nix, or if your really motivated, POV-Ray
[07:47] <OerHeks> xtpeeps, what does image2LCD?
[07:47] <cfhowlett> ki7mt, I believe POV ray functionality has been integrated in blender
[07:47] <shadaloo> OerHeks:
[07:47] <shadaloo> no I want the movie to continue playing while I am alt+tabbing between programs
[07:48] <ki7mt> cfhowlett, Been a while for me, it may have been, Im no t sure.
[07:48] <OerHeks> shadaloo, no problem here, vlc keeps om playing while tabbing to an other app
[07:48] <u-bot> shadaloo, use supper+s
[07:50] <xtpeeps> cfhowlett:I wanna use it to create files. c
[07:50] <shadaloo> OerHeks:
[07:50] <shadaloo> must be because I upgraded to 15.04
[07:50] <OerHeks> shadaloo, not supported here untill release, join #ubuntu+1 for vivid support
[07:51] <OerHeks> might be a bug
[07:51] <xtpeeps> OerHeks:  it change image to .c
[07:52] <xtpeeps> Put the pic to arm,then show it
[07:57] <KoboldMcGee> Hey I'm having a problem
[07:57] <KoboldMcGee> I'm running 12.04 and I can't find my update-manager
[08:00] <bubbasaures> KoboldMcGee, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ23oAgvHlc found this might help.
[08:02] <KoboldMcGee> Thanks bubbasures
[08:02] <bubbasaures> KoboldMcGee, No problem.
[08:03] <KoboldMcGee> Wait I typed update-manager in the dash but nothing shoped up
[08:04] <mariuscc> I'm trying to enable mongo extension for php, but it seams it want to load it from the wrong path althogh I tried all kind of combination, there is some sort of cache somewhere ?
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> KoboldMcGee: start sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade from terminal
[08:05] <OerHeks> KoboldMcGee, try 'update' and see what comes up?
[08:06] <OerHeks> also update-manager should work
[08:07] <KoboldMcGee> Well it looked like it installed some things but I don't see any changes let me restart my system and I'll be right back
[08:11] <KoboldMcGee> I'm back and it still looks like nothing changed
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> KoboldMcGee: what are you trying to do exactly?
[08:12] <bubbasaures> KoboldMcGee, We have not heard what any issue was but finding the update-manager, tell us what else is going on.
[08:13] <KoboldMcGee> Well I wated steam but it said I was missing libc.so.6 and I looked it up and it said to update but I couldn't figure it out so I want to update
[08:14] <KoboldMcGee> I am running a practily fresh install on my chromebook because chrome os is bad
[08:15] <KoboldMcGee> I'm not sure if a perfect install is possible but I can't really see why It wouldn't be
[08:16] <bubbasaures> KoboldMcGee, You want to be careful comparing a perfect world and the one we are in. ;)
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> KoboldMcGee: wich version did you install on chromebook?
[08:16] <KoboldMcGee> 12.04
[08:16] <KoboldMcGee> I think let me double check
[08:17] <KoboldMcGee> Yea definately
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> KoboldMcGee: and 12.04 installed right out the box on chromebook?
[08:17] <KoboldMcGee> ot's a year or two old
[08:18] <KoboldMcGee> it's*
[08:18] <KoboldMcGee> But I wiped it in order to install ubuntu
[08:19] <adrian_1908> If a program is updated to a new version while I'm running it (e.g. Firefox), does the old version stay in RAM while its files are replaced, or does the update create a separate directory for the new files and somehow manages the replacement/cleanup at a later time?
[08:19] <francesco_> hi
[08:19] <francesco_> list!
[08:20] <kernix> hey francesco_
[08:20] <bubbasaures> francesco_, no wares same as last night
[08:25] <bubbasaures> adrian_1908 ou might ask in #firefox
[08:25] <bubbasaures> you*
[08:26] <bubbasaures> I have mine running in ram anyway
[08:27] <adrian_1908> bubbasaures: I was referring to update via the package manager, so nothing Firefox specific. I've found some forum discussions about it, that i'm ready right now :)
[08:29] <bubbasaures> adrian_1908, Ah, good, if I understand, I don't know exactly.
[08:34] <adrian_1908> The answer to this question (http://bit.ly/1ASRt3J) offers a nice and short explanation, in case anyone is interested as well.
[08:41] <liyi> whoami
[08:46] <borw3> Hmm, my school blocked me from updating my ubuntu version by blocking some repository, so I was thinking is it possible to still update via tor using apt-get update?
[08:47] <bubbasaures> borw3, Talk to their IT we can't do that.
[08:48] <borw3> bubbasaures: my schools IT department?
[08:48] <bubbasaures> borw3, You're asking us to be part of you breaking rules.
[08:50] <borw3> bubbasaures: It's not a rule if the person who et it doesn't know how to it happend, it's an un-intentional bug
[08:50] <bubbasaures> straw man
[08:51] <borw3> bubbaaures:I mean that the IT department don't know themselves even how it happend
[08:51] <borw3> bubbaaures:And they are the ones in charge, so is it really breaking a rule?
[08:53] <onla> ok no. I added a line to be executed on the bootup to the file /etc/rc.local but it didnt execute on bootup, or maybe after executing it got reverted?
[08:54] <onla> the line is setting my custom keyboard settings with xmodmap
[08:54] <borw3> onla: try adding that line to the ~/.profile file
[08:56] <onla> add in the bottom below the fi line I guess
[08:56] <onla> guess that fi closes the previous multi line command, there is no exit 0 on the file
[08:57] <onla> I try boot right away
[08:59] <onla> no. not working
[09:01] <onla> have tried etc/init etc/init.d etc/rc.local ~/.profile and even one more I forgot
[09:01] <onla> actually 2 more. Tried adding it to the ubunt gui version starup app list
[09:01] <borw3> onla: what exactly is your code?
[09:02] <onla> xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap < this is the command which runs xmodmap layout thing and set keys to my keyboard
[09:03] <onla> so I can dave äö symbols on dvorak keyboard, because such keyboard doesnt exist
[09:03] <rekt> anyone know how to get hbo go to work?
[09:03] <onla> do you want to see whats inside that file
[09:05] <Industrial> Hi. Is there a GUI frontend to apt-get that isn't Software Center? I remember there was something before Software Center that allowed you to select 20 packages, then click apply and it would install them.
[09:05] <Industrial> I am really annoyed by Software Center
[09:06] <DJones> Industrial: synaptic
[09:06] <Industrial> whenever I install something some stupid spinner reloads the whole app all the time. Totally unneeded and user unfriendly imho.
[09:06] <Industrial> thanks
[09:07] <Industrial> I created a ticket for this issue at least 5 years ago
[09:07] <Industrial> noone has ever looked at it
[09:07] <onla> borw3: ye actually this seem to be a common problem so no wonder it doesnt work
[09:08] <Industrial> Why is the spinner even there at all in the Software Center? Why cant it just update entried from Installing to Installed (just a label update!) in the background? I dunno :)
[09:08] <bubbasaures> Industrial, 5 years and your using a gui?
[09:08] <Industrial> bubbasaures: Sometimes I use a GUI for things, yeah.
[09:09] <bubbasaures> Industrial, Me to, just seems like a pointless goal and rhetoric is all. ;)
[09:09] <Industrial> well I'm just saying my webapps are more responsive then this app
[09:10] <neionz> does anyone know if sudo-apt get install gcc-avr is maintained?
[09:11] <rekt> is there another name for the hal package i know its been scraped but is there an alternative ?
[09:12] <dai_wrk> Industrial: the app you are looking for is probably synaptic package manager, the package name is 'synaptic'
[09:15] <onla> I am using ubuntu but I dont have the gnome specific /etc/gdm directory, is this normal
[09:15] <mgedmin> onla, ubuntu uses LightDM instead of GDM by default
[09:15] <bubbasaures> neionz, http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/g/gcc-avr/gcc-avr_4.8-2.1/changelog
[09:15] <onla> oh ok
[09:17] <neionz> bubbasaures: thanks! Do you know whether "Non-maintainer upload." means anything?
[09:17] <bubbasaures> neionz, Not really, just was curious what it actually was and found this.
[09:18] <mgedmin> neionz, https://wiki.debian.org/NonMaintainerUpload
[09:18] <surs> is SQuirrel sql client available in official repositories?
[09:19] <anonymous__> start
[09:22] <neionz> so much software has to be maintained in the linux world. How does anyone have the energy to keep up for so long?
[09:23] <bubbasaures> neionz, I think a lot of it is the free work of developers, it is part of the net as servers and businesses..etc
[09:26] <bubbasaures> neionz, Last I heard the LHC runs fedora, amazon is linux, 99% of the fastest super computers are linux.
[09:27] <redDawn>  Linux does run in a number of high performance environments, like Crays
[09:28] <neionz> bubbasaures: so amazon, when they change something in linux, they submit it?
[09:28] <neionz> bubbasaures: they don't just keep the changes for themselves?
[09:29] <bubbasaures> neionz, Ah, they use it, I would not know of any support, I meant the wide spread use is all.
[09:30] <varun_saxena> ##hadoop-ats
[09:30] <bubbasaures> neionz, Here is an interesting list, http://www.comparebusinessproducts.com/fyi/50-places-linux-running-you-might-not-expect   Does not explain your question really but just an example of use.
[09:32] <neionz> bubbasaures: none of them were surprising
[09:33] <neionz> :#
[09:33] <neionz> :3
[09:33] <bubbasaures> I suppose not, wish there was an answer, no real answer probably just so many variables.
[09:33] <alez> ;)
[09:34] <bubbasaures> sigh
[09:39] <Qwertie> Does anyone know where the nvidia x server settings are saved?
[09:40] <Droo> Hello can I get some help with running a java jar in a cronjob, I actually need it to start the java at a certain time, occasionally check if it is running, if it is, leave it alone, if it isnt, the start it
[09:41] <Droo> java -Xmx1G -Xms32M -jar server.jar ---is what i use to start the server in terminal
[09:42] <mgedmin> Droo: supervisor is a tool that can start processes on boot and restart them if they crash, configurable via a bunch of simple .ini files in /etc
[09:43] <mgedmin> it can be easier than checking if the right process is running from a cron script
[09:43] <Droo> mgedmin: thanks for that I will look for it now, I connect via SSH btw I'm not at a physical terminal, does supervisor require gnome/kde or is it all terminal?
[09:43] <mgedmin> pure terminal
[09:43] <northernwind> hey
[09:43] <Droo> repositories? apt-get? or website and wget?
[09:43] <mgedmin> (it has an optional web server where you can see if processes are running, start/stop them or look at their log output)
[09:44] <mgedmin> sudo apt-get install supervisor
[09:44] <Droo> oh thats outstanding
[09:44] <Droo> on its on or is apache required?
[09:45] <Droo> Hey thanks alot for your time and help, really appreciate it.
[09:46] <mgedmin> it has its own (Python-based) web server, disabled by default
[09:46] <mgedmin> I wouldn't expose it to the internet
[09:46] <mgedmin> I sometimes put it behind apache, protected by an .htpasswd and SSL, using mod_proxy
[09:47] <mgedmin> it's somewhat buggy (redirects to the wrong location when you use some of the functions), but eh
[09:47] <Droo> well this is purely a game server I have it locked down other than ssh and the game
[09:47] <Droo> website is hosted elsewhere
[09:49] <northernwind> sadasdasdas
[09:49] <northernwind> hey
[09:54] <guest-Ydk4DM_> hi
[09:56] <guest-Ydk4DM_> hi
[09:57] <y4h0> hi all
[10:05] <u-bot> y4h0, hi)
[10:09] <elseJun> >h
[10:10] <AstaraOS> AstaraOS> http://AstaraOS.us.to For AstaraOS Kernel Development
[10:10] <AstaraOS> <AstaraOS> and /server irc.AstaraOS.us.to 6667 channel #AstaraOS
[10:10] <AstaraOS> <AstaraOS> anyone interested
[10:10] <AstaraOS> AstaraOS> http://AstaraOS.us.to For AstaraOS Kernel Development
[10:10] <AstaraOS> <AstaraOS> and /server irc.AstaraOS.us.to 6667 channel #AstaraOS
[10:10] <AstaraOS> <AstaraOS> anyone interested
[10:10] <cfhowlett> astra05, that pretty much - spam.  don't spam.
[10:11] <anti-unix> let us play firefoxhello!!!
[10:11] <cfhowlett> anti-unix, this channel is for ubuntu support so ... no.
[10:11] <anti-unix> :(
[10:11] <u-bot> :)
[10:13] <Ghost96> hey, anyone have tried installing rtorrent + rutorrent manually and successfully?
[10:13] <Ghost96> *anyone here
[10:13] <cfhowlett> !patience | Ghost96
[10:13] <Ghost96> my vps is using ubuntu 14
[10:16] <almostworking> i have a VPN/VPS, im picking out which level of service , ill be using, ubuntu 14, is an option, amoung other distros.
[10:17] <almostworking> leaning toward , this provider, anyway.....
[10:17] <Ghost96> :[
[10:20] <maubug> ciao atutti
[10:30] <nikitha> hi
[10:30] <u-bot> hi
[10:31] <nikitha> someone help, im unable to see folder created on external driver with windows 7 in ubuntu 14.04 ?  im able see files  but not other folders ? please guide
[10:33] <sheer> hi. i'm having a problem connecting to a wireless network that i used to have no issue with. where's a good place to ask for help?
[10:35] <almostworking> ##networking sheer , only place i can think of. on freenode .... once ubuntu picks up , thou might find answer here.
[10:35] <almostworking> peeps, in ##nwetworking really know their stuff, mostly enterprise talk in there
[10:35] <sheer> thanks almostworking
[10:36] <almostworking> np .  , im up early shoppin, for elec. cig batteries.....
[10:36] <avenger> Anyone uses mumble here?
[10:36]  * almostworking never heard of it...  
[10:36] <boodllebat> avenger: me when i playe age of empire with friends
[10:37] <almostworking> if its for phones,  i use voxer alot....
[10:37] <sheer> "self-assigned IP address"  Something about that
[10:37] <avenger> I just installed it, And I want to test it. But when I tries to coonect to server there is just silence
[10:39] <boodllebat> avenger: have you configured you mic
[10:39] <boodllebat> avenger: there'll be silence if no one else is in the room
[10:40] <avenger> Am I supposed to join a channel to hear wht the peope are saying?
[10:40] <boodllebat> avenger: yes
[10:41] <boodllebat> avenger: you have to join a mumble server and then join a channel in which users are already there to hear them
[10:41] <boodllebat> avenger: i suggest you not to hear personal conversations
[10:43] <avenger> To set your own private server, the option is in the doftware?
[10:46] <boodllebat> avenger: you have to download murmur
[10:47] <blackyboy> what is checkpoint open server ? Will any one explain me this was only a Firewall or any thing more than that ?
[10:49] <OerHeks> blackyboy, where do you find that 'checkpoint open server'? it is not in our repo's, is it?
[10:50] <blackyboy> OerHeks: i got one of video tutorial while searching in google for firewall, seems checkpoint was very popular and heard about this before too.
[10:50] <OerHeks> blackyboy, then find the appropriate channel for that, it is not supported here.
[10:51] <blackyboy> OerHeks: i know that if you don't know sit quite, There are lot of thinks to learn if you not interested be side
[10:51] <blackyboy> :P
[10:52] <OerHeks> blackyboy, this is ubuntu support only, friend.
[10:52] <blackyboy> OerHeks: Ok buddy let it be, Thanks for your time.
[10:53] <ram_> how to create bootable win8 cd in ubuntu
[10:54] <cfhowlett> ram_, best to use windows tools for ##windows boot.  ask ##windows
[10:54] <supaplex> ram_: did you prep the cd for  20 seconds in the microwave?
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | supaplex,
[10:54] <supaplex> sorry :/
[10:56] <nikitha1> someone help, im unable to see folder created on external driver with windows 7 in ubuntu 14.04 ?  im able see files  but not other folders ? please guide
[10:57] <sheer> $5 up for grabs if you help me connect to the network that until recently i had no issue connecting to. using a mac. :)
[10:58] <nikitha> im unable to see  folder created with windows 7 under ubuntu 14.04 on external driver. at the same time i could able see files but not folders, please guide
[11:01] <OerHeks> nikitha, you created folder and files with ubuntu on a windows 7 drive? and in windows you cannot see the folder?
[11:01] <OerHeks> the issue is not clear to me
[11:01] <supaplex> i think he means drive, not driver
[11:02] <nikitha> OerHeks: other way round, i accessed external driver and created folders and files in windows 7, under ubuntu im unable see folders, externam driver showing the consumed space
[11:03] <OerHeks> nikitha, oh oke, in nautilus, hit ctrl + h to see hidden files/folders
[11:04] <rubiksmomo> Is there any good alternative to Unison for 2-way syncing local directory with FTP directory? When it tries to add new files to server, it fails to rename the temp files cause they are missing from server.
[11:05] <nikitha> OerHeks: tried 'hidden files' option still im unable to see
[11:06] <nikitha> OerHeks: i got pen driver also , so i check both pen drive, external driver  formatted type but show as hpfs/ntfs then how cum im unable to see ext drive folder where as in pen drive i could see
[11:07] <OerHeks> nikita ahhhh hpfs ... that is not standard supported, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/246899/how-to-automount-hpfs-ntfs-exfat-64gb-microsd-card-on-10-04
[11:08] <OerHeks> ntfs is, fat32 too, but hpfs is a prop. format
[11:08] <OerHeks> carefull with writing to it, you might damage the filesystem
[11:13] <OerHeks> nikitha, don't use that ppa, from 12.04 and up :   sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[11:18] <borw3> Dayumn!!! I think I just f***ed up my Ubuntu. Now when I try to apt-get anything I get this error:
[11:18] <borw3> Dayumn!!! I think I just f***ed up my Ubuntu. Now when I try to apt-get anything I get this error:      E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[11:18] <borw3> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_i18n_Translation-en
[11:19] <ikonia> borw3: tone down the language, there is no need for it, nor is it welcome
[11:19] <borw3> ikonia: help me out, whenever I apt-get anything I get this:  Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_i18n_Translation-en
[11:20] <ikonia> borw3: someone else in the channel will help you
[11:23] <OerHeks> borw3, seems like your lists are corrupted, see http://askubuntu.com/a/30199
[11:23] <shaz> Hi, Can we use the default u-boot in eMMC to boot kernel from SD card by overriding bootcmd in uEnv.txt? I am using BB-black.
[11:28] <borw3> OerHeks: solved the problem thanks
[11:29] <OerHeks> borw3, great, have fun!
[11:36] <poolson> hey can anyone help me with kernel modules.  im kind of new to that kind of thing and wondering how to approach getting a kernel module int my system?
[11:37] <poolson> specifically a spi module for this little embedded thing.
[11:38] <mcphail> poolson: if it is an "out of tree" module there isn't a standard way and you need to refer to the module's documentation.
[11:38] <Fuchs> poolson: usually:  1) get the sources for your current kernel (or header files)  2) compile the module and install it  (usually with ./(configure, make, sudo make install, most do come with a readme)  3) load module  (with modprobe)    then you know whether it worked
[11:39] <Fuchs> to do things properly, you should create a .deb and add the module to dkms, so it is re-built every time you get a new kernel. Else you have to do that manually after each kernel update
[11:40] <poolson> hmmm
[11:40] <poolson> shiiit !@
[11:40] <boodllebat> i recently wrote a widget for ubuntu it has some glitches anybody wanna join https://github.com/argunner/StickFace
[11:40] <mcphail> poolson: also check to see if the module is included in the upstream kernel tree. It can save you a lot of problems if it has been included upstream
[11:45] <nikitha> OerHeks: hi, installed sudo apt-get install exfat-utils exfat-fuse           as advised still uanble to windows 7 folders under ubuntu ...
[11:47] <poolson> mcphail ill get right on that ! ;)
[11:48] <borw3> Can I ask is there any way I can update ubuntu via socks and not http?
[11:50] <wirher> Hello everybody. I have a problem with installing Qt5 designer on Ubuntu utopic. I have installed "qttools5-dev" package from repository and I still don't have qt5 designer on my PC (or I just can't find it). Do you happen to know what is wrong with that?
[11:51] <poolson> just googled for thsi
[11:51] <poolson> http://askubuntu.com/questions/35223/syntax-for-socks-proxy-in-apt-conf
[11:51] <poolson> that was for borw3
[11:52] <nikitha> OerHeks:  should i need to go back win 7 and access external drive hpfs/ntfs , copy  all content into hdd and format again ext drive with ntfs and put back content back onto external, is this only solution ?
[11:54] <boodllebat> i recently wrote a widget for ubuntu /Gnome /GTk /Unity . I have zero followers on Github and zero forks on repo but i'm trying , Project  has some glitches anybody wanna join https://github.com/argunner/StickFace Take a look though thanks
[11:54] <Fuchs> boodllebat: would you mind advertising a bit less here? actually "not at all" would be nice.
[11:55] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, ubuntu-offtopic for this perhaps
[11:55] <boodllebat> Fuchs: oh i'm sorry if that was annoying i would not do that again
[11:56] <boodllebat> Fuchs: i need review of widget can you take a look
[11:56] <Fuchs> boodllebat: no.
[11:56] <boodllebat> Fuchs: hmm that's fine
[11:56] <harish_> i changed hosts(/etc/hosts) settings for facebook.com and redirected it to 127.0.0.1(localhost) and it worked, now i reverted the changes but still i redirects to localhost not actual facebook site
[11:56] <harish_> please helo
[11:56] <harish_> please help
[11:57] <pepperton> Hey folks, anyone here have experience theming Grub2? I've been working on one,  while it works, it prompts a terminal after an entry selection. Here's an example:  http://i.imgur.com/sJdDjbR.jpg Any idea what is happening here?
[11:57] <Ben64> harish_: you might need to restart the browser
[11:57] <harish_> ben64 i have already tried that
[11:58] <harish_> still its not working
[11:58] <Ben64> then you didn't fix /etc/hosts
[11:59] <harish_> at first i commented the setting in hosts file, it did not work and then i removed respective line then also it is not working
[12:00] <cfhowlett> harish_, I'm not sure restarting the browswer alone will reset the network DNS.  disconnect/reconnect to the network and test
[12:00] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:00] <Ben64> cfhowlett: its not dns, its the hosts file
[12:01] <harish_> ok
[12:01] <cfhowlett> Ben64, doh!  (but same theory ...)
[12:01] <cfhowlett> ?
[12:01] <harish_> still not working :(
[12:01] <Ben64> eh, works in a different way
[12:02] <harish_> cfhowlett still not working :(
[12:02] <Ben64> theres 3 options here. 1. hosts file isn't correct 2. browser needs to be restarted properly 3. there is something else going on, dns or something
[12:02] <BluesKaj> resolv.conf ?
[12:02] <Ben64> 3 is easy to test using "host facebook.com" and seeing if it returns 127.0.0.1
[12:03] <harish_> hosts file looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9755383/
[12:03] <Ben64> why do you have ::8080
[12:04] <harish_> just playing with apache tomcat
[12:04] <Ben64> the hosts file does not work like that
[12:04] <harish_> should i remove it
[12:04] <Ben64> yes
[12:04] <harish_> i removed those line but still i cant connect to facebook.com
[12:05] <cfhowlett> harish_, from what country?
[12:05] <harish_> india
[12:05] <Ben64> then you need to do #2 properly
[12:05] <harish_> #2 ??
 theres 3 options here. 1. hosts file isn't correct 2. browser needs to be restarted properly 3. there is something else going on, dns or something
[12:06] <harish_> ok
[12:06] <Ben64> guaranteed way is to restart the computer
[12:06] <harish_> let me check it all over again
[12:19] <xdhjixdhsd> ciao ^_^
[12:20] <xdhjixdhsd> i am experiencing a problem with the installation of ubuntu 14.04 on an old computer. the video freezes after i press "try ubuntu without installing"
[12:21] <xdhjixdhsd> what can I do?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> xdhjixdhsd, how old is the pc?
[12:22] <xdhjixdhsd> 2003
[12:22] <pksadiq> Is it possible to connect two dsl modems via dsl port?
[12:23] <xdhjixdhsd> now it is connected via wifi
[12:23] <OerHeks> pksadiq, no, besides it is not an ubuntu issue
[12:23] <Digit> i heard rumour, amazon might buy canonical.  any chance?  or wild click-bait speculation?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> Digit, clickbait
[12:24] <rodrigograca31_> why would amazon buy canonical? what would it do with it?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> !lubuntu |xdhjixdhsd
[12:25] <rodrigograca31_> Digit: why would amazon buy canonical? what would it do with it?
[12:25] <xdhjixdhsd> BluesKaj I already tried Xubuntu, without success. will i be more lucky with lubuntu?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> rodrigograca31_, off-topic discussion
[12:25] <BluesKaj> xdhjixdhsd, perhaps
[12:25] <Ben64> xdhjixdhsd: depending on the cpu, you may not be able to use 14.04
[12:25] <no_gravity> Hello! I connected a new mouse to my computer but the mouse cursor does not move. What can I do to diagnose the issue further?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> no_gravity, check batteries
[12:26] <OerHeks> no_gravity, what connector, ps/2 ?
[12:26] <xdhjixdhsd> Ben64 it comes with a pentium 4
[12:26] <no_gravity> cfhowlett: it has no batteries. its via usb cable.
[12:26] <no_gravity> OerHeks: usb
[12:27] <Digit> was just one of the "predictions" in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZUWVSSjWK4 erm, sometime close to 50 minutes in.  (btw, great free software advocacy video at start worth seeing too)
[12:27] <rodrigograca31_> no_gravity: use anothe USB port?
[12:27] <Ben64> xdhjixdhsd: pentium 4 covers a very wide range of stuff
[12:27] <OerHeks> no_gravity, oke, what mouse?
[12:27] <Ben64> Digit: still not appropriate for this channel
[12:27] <no_gravity> rodrigograca31_: tried them all
[12:27] <OerHeks> Digit, this is technical support only, join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:27] <no_gravity> OerHeks: i think its called "rapoo"
[12:28] <Ben64> no_gravity: plug it in, then pastebin the output of "dmesg | tail -n20"
[12:28] <Digit> o_O  oh.  ok.  didnt know where would have been apropriate for an ubuntu related question.  thnx.
[12:28] <OerHeks> no_gravity, is is plugged in an usb3 port?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> xdhjixdhsd, huw much RAM?
[12:28] <xdhjixdhsd> so, can't i install normal ubuntu or xubuntu on this pc? now it is running ubuntu 11.04 smoothly. i want to upgrade only for the support
[12:28] <Ben64> xdhjixdhsd: you can try 12.04
[12:28] <xdhjixdhsd> 512 mb
[12:29] <cfhowlett> xdhjixdhsd, try lubuntu 12.04
[12:29] <no_gravity> OerHeks: how do i find out what kind of usb port it is?
[12:29] <xdhjixdhsd> thank you all :)
[12:29] <Ben64> usb 3 ports have >4 wires in them
[12:29] <OerHeks> no_gravity, maybe the manual of your machine can tell
[12:30] <Ben64> a pastebin of dmesg would really help though...
[12:30] <no_gravity> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/4sQkPizu
[12:30] <BluesKaj> xdhjixdhsd, lubuntu 14.04 should run fine
[12:30] <Ben64> no_gravity: there you go, its not working
[12:31] <xdhjixdhsd> so, after 2017, i won't able to install most recent releases?
[12:31] <no_gravity> Ben64: you mean its a broken device?
[12:31] <Ben64> xdhjixdhsd: likely, you should upgrade hardware by then
[12:31] <Ben64> no_gravity: try it on a different computer, but possibly
[12:31] <no_gravity> Ben64: ok, one moment
[12:32] <xdhjixdhsd> I own a new pc, this one is my aunt's PC. i'm gonna try lubuntu. thanks. bye
[12:33] <BluesKaj> let me rephrase , xdhjixdhsd lubuntu 14.04 should run fine with 512RAM and pentium 4
[12:35] <xdhjixdhsd> my problem with ubuntu 14.04 is that the installation process doesn't start, even if the minimum requirement is respected. maybe some drivers are missing. I hope that the installation process with lubuntu 14.04 would start
[12:35] <SleepersTide> Can you, in a laptop with two SSDs, run a hypervisor and both Windows and Ubuntu, have a shared partition on the larger SSD which both swap to (in swapfiles); one OS is host and the other swaps over network?
[12:35] <no_gravity> Ben64: doesnt work on another computer as well. to hell with the device then.
[12:36] <OerHeks> xdhjixdhsd, pentium4 does not support PAE, i think that is your issue
[12:36] <OerHeks> only lubuntu 14,04 does
[12:37] <xdhjixdhsd> ok, got it
[12:37] <natou> I have this message when grub starts ubuntu "Network interface NamePolicy= disabled on kernel command line, ignoring" I found a thread about it from an arch linux forum but I'm not sure what this is all about
[12:38] <cfhowlett> xdhjixdhsd, It's 2015.  upgrade your computer and hand down your current to Aunty!
[12:38] <mcphail> cfhowlett: he may need the P4 to heat his house
[12:39] <cfhowlett> mcphail, lol!  good one!
[12:39] <saju_m> hi
[12:39] <mcphail> to be fair, ubuntu runs well on AMD processors of that era
[12:41] <saju_m> looking for a good laptop to install ubuntu 14.04, Please suggest one model, (8GB, i7)
[12:42] <saju_m> I want to run at least 3 virtual machines in my laptop for my work
[12:42] <OerHeks> !hcl
[12:42] <cfhowlett> saju_m, www.dell.com/developer
[12:42] <natou> anyone for my "Network interface NamePolicy= disabled on kernel command line, ignoring" problem?
[12:43] <saju_m> i found one model Asus X550LC-XX223D,  but that has touchpad issue,   is it fixable
[12:44] <mcphail> saju_m: it is fairly unlikely anyone will ahve that specific laptop and be activce on here at this point in time. That would be a better question for a forum
[12:44] <saju_m> see, I am working on openstack, so looking for a powerfull laptop which runs ubuntu smoothly
[12:45] <saju_m> ok
[12:45] <natou> and Why is unity remplacing my firefox icon with a grey rectangle when it crashes for example?
[12:45] <DJones> saju_m: I bought a Lenovo Y510P about 12 months ago, I've not had any issues with that, everything has worked out if the box with 14.04 onwards
 please send me the forum link
, thanks
[12:47] <cfhowlett> saju_m, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[12:51] <Industrial> Hi.
[12:51] <Industrial> How do I get Flash player working in Chromium on Ubuntu?
[12:51] <Industrial> I tried "pepperflashplugin-nonfree"
[12:51] <Industrial> but Chrome (pandora.com) still tells me I don't have the plugin
[12:52] <Industrial> nvm that, needed a full restart
[12:53] <OerHeks> Industrial, after installing pepperflash, did you perform step #2 ? sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install >>> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/install-pepper-flash-chromium-ubuntu-14-04
[12:53] <OerHeks> uh
[12:58] <maia> hello folks
[13:01] <OerHeks> hi maia
[13:07] <blehbleh> Hi
[13:07] <PowerPenguin> Hi.   I am trying to find a usb wifi device that will work with Ubuntu 14.10 server.    The two I have tried so far did not work.   Once I installed extra drivers one dongle almost worked.    The documentation I have been able to find is very out of date, and not any of the dongles listed are for sale in Europe at this time it seems.
[13:08] <blehbleh> I am currently testing MAAS (https://maas.ubuntu.com/) and experience a weird issue
[13:09] <blehbleh> One of the step involves downloading PXE bootable images and apparently a copy of some Ubuntu packages
[13:09] <blehbleh> however this steps fails with:
[13:09] <blehbleh> # sudo maas-import-pxe-files
[13:09] <blehbleh> ValueError: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz failed checksum.
[13:10] <blehbleh> Now, I would blame a network error, faulty disk or else, ..
[13:10] <instigator> Hello. I know how to change the modified date of a file using the touch command, but i am not sure how to change the date that the file was created
[13:10] <blehbleh> execept that I can confirm by downloading manualy the file
[13:11] <fmcarreiro> hello everyone. How to install printserver linksys WPSM54G in ubuntu 14.10? thanks
[13:11] <blehbleh> MD5 checksums are available from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/Release
[13:12] <ram_> how cani use whats app in ubunti any idea please
[13:13] <OerHeks> ram_, not, as you need a phonenumber
[13:13] <blehbleh> curl --silent http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  => 6b10830e8fb4e68b5c034b8e9c73d44e (does not match the Release file)
[13:13] <blehbleh> howver, if I try with let say Packages.bz2:
[13:14] <blehbleh> curl --silent http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  => 2d70f3b18f96dabe7449903bd067041f (matches the Release file)
[13:14] <ram_> ubuntu file system name
[13:14] <blehbleh> is it me missing something (or goind mad), or can someone confirm the issue ?
[13:15] <bobdobbs> hey guys. I'm running 12.04 with two monitors from a single nvidia video card. I'm running two x displays, but the background of the rightmost monitor is stark white and seemingly impossible to change
[13:16] <bobdobbs> On the rightmost display, if I try to change the background image or color using a gnome display setting, it sets the leftmost monitor instead
[13:16] <bobdobbs> I think I've borked some x thing up
[13:16] <theadmin> blehbleh: If you are getting hash mismatch issues with APT, do sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* and try again.
[13:16] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, use the monitor settings on the monitor itself? colour-temp most likely
[13:17] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: I'm pretty sure it's ubuntu/gnome. Cos everything is normal on the monitors when I start up ubuntu, right up until the desktop environment loads
[13:17] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: this applies to both gnome and kde
[13:17] <refj> What is the current status of Ubuntu bug reports in launchpad? Are the developers so overburdened that they have stopped acknowledging bug reports? I ask because no one has looked at bug report I filed 2 months ago. How to escalate a bug report?
[13:18] <mgedmin> refj, basically, yes
[13:18] <mgedmin> refj, link to the bug?
[13:19] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: like, if I log out so that the 'log in' screen shows, both monitors look fine. They both have background images and colours
[13:19] <refj> mgedmin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1389754
[13:19] <mgedmin> bobdobbs, that could maybe be caused by different multi-monitor configurations (lightdm defaults to clone mode, the user session to extended desktop)?
[13:19] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: so then I log in. And while whichever desktop env is setting up... during the loading process, the displays to behave normalls
[13:20] <bobdobbs> but as soon as they load, the rightmost monitor presents a blank background
[13:20] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, 'normal' until the prop. driver kicks in ?
[13:20] <ygf> anybody?
[13:20] <bobdobbs> possibly. I suspectso
[13:21] <bobdobbs> mgedmin: yeah, I suspect that a multi-monitor config has something to do with it
[13:21] <ygf> anybody out there?
[13:21] <mcphail> OerHeks: the "proper" driver should already be loaded at the lightdm screen, though
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !ask | ygf, ask
[13:21] <bobdobbs> mgedmin: so I tried setting up 'twinview' from nvidia-settings... but I cant see the option in the nvidia settings gui!
[13:22] <bobdobbs> nvidia-settings does tell me that there are two monitors, each with it's own X display
[13:22] <OerHeks> mcphail, that is what i thought so too, i wonder why this occurs
[13:22] <erUs> hi
[13:22] <daniele_> hi
[13:23] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, check systemsettings > colour, does the monitors both have a profile?
[13:23] <bobdobbs> lets see...
[13:23] <bobdobbs> I very much suspect they do. checking...
[13:23] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, i had to setup them manually after install
[13:24] <bobdobbs> uhm, where is systemsettings in the gnome panel menu?
[13:25] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, in Unity it is standard on the left panel, dunno about gnome-panel
[13:25] <password2> Hi
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> !info classicmenu-indicator | bobdobbs
[13:26] <erUs> where can i find wifi connections
[13:26] <erUs> ?
[13:29] <bobdobbs> OerHeks: I don't think that the panel menu offers access to that setting
[13:29] <aboudreault> any idea why my postifx always use the local relay? my domain is in mydestination and relayhost is empty
[13:29] <bobdobbs> is there a way to access that setting from the commandline?
[13:30] <mgedmin> bobdobbs, run gnome-control-center
[13:30] <mgedmin> or wait, was it renamed to unity-control-center recently?
[13:30]  * mgedmin uses Ubuntu GNOME
[13:30] <bobdobbs> ah, got the control center
[13:30] <OerHeks> !info gnome-color-manager
[13:31] <bobdobbs> hmmm... interesting
[13:32] <bobdobbs> I can't see a setting for 'colors'. but I see one for 'displays'
[13:32] <bobdobbs> and the gnome control center can only detect a single display
[13:32] <bobdobbs> which is funny, cos nvidia-settings can see both monitors and both displays
[13:33] <bobdobbs> I guess that tells me something, but I'm not sure what
[13:33] <mgedmin> the nvidia driver doesn't necessarily use the standard linux apis (xrandr) to expose the information about monitors
[13:34] <erte> CAn anyone recomend any free cad programms for ubuntu? :)
[13:34] <mgedmin> I wish I could help you debug this, but have no nvidia hardware
[13:34] <bobdobbs> should I install the proprietary nvidia driver? would that help?
[13:34] <mgedmin> and therefore no familiarity with all the configurable knobs
[13:35] <bobdobbs> actually, it probably wouldn't hurt to try. I'll give it a spin.
[13:35] <mgedmin> bobdobbs, worth a try!  the standard driver supports xrandr just fine but maybe it fails to support, oh, whatever connector your external monitor is on?
[13:35] <mgedmin> worst case, you end up with broken X and no gui at all :)
[13:35] <bobdobbs> connector?
[13:35] <bobdobbs> oh damn!
[13:35] <DJones> erte: There may be something on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEngineering that helps
[13:35] <bobdobbs> pleeeze! not the bad old days all over again!
[13:35]  * mgedmin has no idea
[13:35]  * bobdobbs shudders
[13:35] <erte> thx :)
[13:36] <mgedmin> I just heard that 'noveau' is not very reliable yet
[13:36] <mgedmin> and the binary driver has its own share of interoperability/debuggability issues
[13:36] <bobdobbs> hmmm...
[13:39] <refj> mgedmin, who should I contact if I want someone to have a look at my bug report? Do you know?
[13:39] <bobdobbs> so, I've been able to describe the symptoms, but I'm not actually sure what the actual issue is
[13:40] <mgedmin> refj, I assume you don't have a support contract with canonical?
[13:40] <refj> mgedmin, you assumption is correct. :)
[13:41] <mgedmin> my gut feeling is that investigating this yourself might be the quickest route
[13:41] <mgedmin> of course then you'd have the problem of getting somebody to notice and apply your patch :/
[13:41] <mgedmin> maybe try the upstream, i.e. debian?  assuming you can reproduce the issue there, assuming the issue _is_ in debian-installer
[13:41] <refj> mgedmin, yes, this is what I've been doing on and off for the last two months. I find it hard to debug the debian-installer, even with DEBUG level 5 enabled.
[13:42] <mgedmin> jumping into #ubuntu-devel and linking to the bug, and asking who is familiar with the installer architecture might or might not yield results
[13:42] <mgedmin> (devs are currently busy with the upstart -> systemd conversion)
[13:42] <refj> mgedmin, thanks, i'll do that later on. Thanks for the advice.
[13:43] <mgedmin> posting your findings on the bug might attract developers, if they see the bug reporter is technical enough and interested enough to investigate and answer any questions they might have if trying to narrow it down
[13:43]  * mgedmin is speculating, not being a ubuntu dev himself
[13:43] <mgedmin> otoh large amounts of not-necessarily-useful information might make the bug seem less attractive
[13:44] <mgedmin> differential analysis might help narrow down the causes perhaps?  (e.g. does it only fail in vmware, or also on real hardware?)
[13:45] <mgedmin> is it possible to get a debug shell during the automated installation process?  poke around and see what processes are running at the time?
[13:50] <antimatroid> so i installed 14.04 on my macbook pro 8.1 and use gnome classic, and switched the cmd/ctrl keys using xmodmap so that I can use cmd w/n/t etc., However now I can't get cmd tab (which is really ctrl tab) to switch between open windows. I've tried using ccsw to alter the (static) application switcher settings but it doesn't change anything, even when I disable the bindings for the ubuntu unity plugin (which isn't enabled in ccsw anyway). Any suggestions on 
[13:51] <antimatroid> i can use ctrl tab (which is really cmd tab) and alt tab to switch between open windows in the same workspace, and ctrl or alt ~ to switch between windows of the same app in the same workspace, i just want those to work with cmd (which is really ctrl) :(
[13:51] <zetheroo1> how do you track which repo source a package is being installed from?
[13:51] <mcphail> zetheroo1: apt-cache policy _packagename_
[13:52] <refj> mgedmin, again thanks for the advice. I'll do some additional testing before contacting ubuntu-dev.
[13:52] <antimatroid> also interestingly, alt ~ doesn't work for switching between windows with chromium, but does for other applications, I imagine that's just an issue with chromium using multiple processes?
[13:52] <XTREME-H> hey guys how to install android sdk on ubuntu???
[13:52] <zetheroo1> mcphail: ok thanks
[13:54] <mcphail> XTREME-H: I seem to remember the Android website having detailed instructions when I last installed it a couple of years ago. Has that changed?
[13:54] <rubiksmomo> Anyone know how to script delay in AutoKey?
[13:55] <mcphail> antimatroid: not sure about this one but the symptoms suggest some of the keybindings might be hardcoded... :(
[13:55] <Pici> rubiksmomo: Their official channe: #ahk, would probably be the best place to ask.
[13:56] <rubiksmomo> Thanks :)
[13:56] <rubiksmomo> Wait. That's AutoHotKey which doesn't have Linux version?
[13:56] <antimatroid> mcphail: i figured there's something else forcing them, i'm not very knowledgeable with linux/ubuntu but if i had to guess it's hard coded into the gnome classic i'm using somehow
[13:57] <antimatroid> i know i got it to the point where i liked it previously, just can't remember how :P
[13:57] <mcphail> antimatroid: It wouldn't surprise me. But there have been so many layers of keybindings built up over Linux GUIs over the years it is hard to be sure. It can be a bit of a mess
[14:01] <antimatroid> mcphail: interestingly though, I can't find any mention online of compiz not working for application switcher stuff, even with people using gnome classic and 14.04
[14:01] <antimatroid> though they're usually just trying to turn it on at all
[14:02] <Mike__> Hi. Somebody knows that, how can I enable the freshest (but outdated) flash player on debian 7 globally in firefox? My problem is that, now i must allow for every site separately to use flash player, and I cannot set the always activate option.
[14:02] <zetheroo1> does anyone know what this wine-compholio package is and why it comes with pipelight!? It's giving me trouble all the time with dependencies ... :P
[14:02] <mcphail> Mike__: this isn't a debian support channel. Are you having the same problem with Ubuntu?
[14:03] <DJones> Mike__: You're probably better joining and asking #debian about that
[14:04] <mcphail> zetheroo1: it is a nasty hack to activate a nasty hack and breaks all the time. If you've been using pipelight for Netflix, it isn't necessary any more.
[14:04] <zetheroo1> mcphail:  sounds nasty :D
[14:04] <mcphail> zetheroo1: :)
[14:04] <zetheroo1> mcphail: so pipelight can run fine without it then?
[14:04] <Mike__> mcphail: I know. A friend of mine has the same problem, but with ubuntu. So that's why I asked here too.
[14:05] <Mike__> DJones: Okay.
[14:05] <mcphail> zetheroo1: no. But pipleight isn't needed for Netflix any more (which is why most people used pipelight in the first place)
[14:05] <zetheroo1> mcphail: I am using pipelight for Chrome ... or so I thought ...
[14:05] <mcphail> Mike__: ubuntu automatically upgrades flashplayer
[14:06] <Mike__> mcphail: https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p796
[14:07] <Mike__> mcphail: As I know no new flash players will be for linux
[14:07] <mcphail> Mike__: my flashplayer plugin updated last night. Not on that machine now so can't check
[14:08] <phaidros> is there any comand line backup tool which can directly use smb:// as target? (want to prevent "mount && check if mounted && backup" chain
[14:08] <zetheroo1> mcphail: ok, I am totally confused ... I  have Firefox, Chromium and Chrome installed ... and each one is using a different version of Flash ...  is this normal?
[14:08] <bobdobbs> mgedmin, OerHeks solved it!
[14:09] <bobdobbs> 'killall nautilus'
[14:09] <Mike__> mcphail: Ok. Thanks for the reply!
[14:09] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, nice :-)
[14:09] <zetheroo1> oh and I also have Opera installed - Opera and Firefox are using the same version of Flash version 11,2,202,429
[14:10] <zetheroo1> Chrome is using version 16,0,0,257 and Chromium is using 13,0,0,206
[14:10] <bobdobbs> the big white screen background was nautilus!
[14:10] <zetheroo1> does each browser have it's own way of updating Flash !?
[14:11] <OerHeks> bobdobbs, odd .. who thinks of that?
[14:11] <rubiksmomo> How can I automate a keypress every couple seconds?
[14:11] <bynarie> on 14.10, every time i close my laptop lid and come back to it later, i have to log back in and when i do my screen is black and it crashes.. and i have to reboot.. any ideas?????
[14:12] <bobdobbs> I just read a whooooole bunch of posts on the forums and somebody mentioned nautilus
[14:12] <bobdobbs> and I suddently remembered that I'd had this issue before
[14:13] <phaidros> bynarie: check logs from console (Alt-F1)
[14:15] <bynarie> phaidros, did u mean to type ctrl+alt+f1?
[14:16] <bynarie> i will check it next time it happens
[14:16] <phaidros> bynarie: ack :)
[14:16] <bynarie> actually ill do it now.. hold on
[14:16] <bynarie> and thanks
[14:17] <phaidros> bynarie: even in case you do not find anything, you could just restart the display manager (/etc/init.d/lightdm restart, or gdm/kdm/xdm, whatever you have installed)
[14:18] <bynarie> phaidros, i just did it and the entrie system locks/crashes... cant even access console with ctl alt f1 f2 f3
[14:19] <bynarie> im going to check var/crash
[14:20] <bynarie> phaidros, http://pastebin.com/7FcwBmVm - in /var/crash
[14:22] <phaidros> bynarie: sadly, I am not good in reading those dumps .. :/
[14:22] <bynarie> oh ok.. me either
[14:22] <bynarie> it does sound like its a problem with resume/suspend in the kernel
[14:22] <bynarie> thats all i can interpret
[14:23] <bynarie> thanks anywho for tryin tho phaidros
[14:23] <phaidros> yeah, all I see seems to relate to pm scripts
[14:24] <mcphail> bynarie: resume/suspend remains flaky for some people. What kernel are you using? What graphics drivers?
[14:26] <bynarie> mcphail, 3.16.0-29 and nvidia binary 331.113
[14:27] <kalib> Guys, I want to install ubuntu on a flash usb disk. Just to have a bootable usb system. My question is, 4GB will be enough for it?
[14:27] <mcphail> bynarie: There were some suspend/resume improvements in the changelog for 3.17 or 3.18 iirc. You could try a Mainline kernel but you might run into a few problems with your nvidia drivers
[14:27] <mcphail> !Mainline | bynarie
[14:28] <bynarie> mcphail, thanks.. i have already tried 3.17 but then like u said, cant get the nvidia drivers to work
[14:29] <rubiksmomo> How do I setup global hotkey to execute bash script?
[14:29] <mcphail> bynarie: usually a simple "apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-3.." will get the drivers working again. it is a pain to have to do it after every kernel change
[14:30] <bynarie> ok ill give it a shot
[14:30] <bynarie> thanks
[14:31] <bynarie> mcphail, as far as upgrading the kernel, should i just download the 3 debs and dpkg -i install them, or is there a more preferred way?
[14:31] <mcphail> bynarie: That is the preferred way. I compile my own but I'm a bit of a masochist
[14:31] <bynarie> ok greaty
[14:31] <bynarie> thanks for the help
[14:32] <mcphail> bynarie: just remeber you'll need to manually upgrade the kernel in the same way whenever vulnerabilities are patched
[14:32] <bynarie> ok
[14:32] <stevenm> hey if I wanted to hire someone online that has c and gtk knowledge to add features to an app - where would be the best place to start?
[14:34] <mcphail> stevenm: this is the Ubuntu support channel. You can try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic or somewhere else
[14:44] <mateusza> Hi! There is a problem with IPv6 reachability of security.ubuntu.com from HE IPv6 tunnels. Any idea who to contact?
[14:48] <henry__> can anyone please tell me how to run java gui with openjdk7
[14:48] <jatt> what java gui
[14:48] <jatt> (there is #java)
[14:49] <henry__> I ran "java -jar application.jar" and it works fine on Windows & Mac
[14:50] <mateusza> henry__: and what's the problem on Ubuntu?
[14:50] <henry__> but when I run on Ubuntu with openjdk-7 it only plays sound, no gui
[14:51] <bynarie> henry__, have u tried using oracle-java instead of openjdk???
[14:52] <mermid> Thanks ikonia
[14:52] <henry__> @bynarie, I didn't
[14:52] <bynarie> henry__, u got to add the ppa:webupd8team/java
[14:52] <bynarie> then
[14:53] <bynarie> sudo apt install oracle-java8-installer
[14:53] <bynarie> or java7
[14:55] <henry__> is there any workaround this? cause I need openjdk for rubymine
[15:06] <Guest22556> anybody there?
[15:06] <Hedgework> Guest22556: Nobody here but us chickens. :)
[15:07] <Guest22556> haha :-D
[15:07] <optikfluffel> Hey there, I just have a short question. I found the command 'apt-get -q -q .....' in a script and wondered if that's only a little error they made or if this actually does something if you tell apt-get to be quiet two times.
[15:08] <Hedgework> Guest22556: One of the first things you might learn about IRC is that it's considered most polite to just drop into a support channel and ask a specific technical question.  Checking who's awake, asking for people to tell you if they have expertise in an area, etc. doesn't make it easier to support you and is seen by the old-fashioned IRCers as a waste of their time.
[15:08] <jelly> optikfluffel: the manual page suggests -qq has a meaning
[15:08] <cfhowlett> !ask | Guest22556, in other words ...
[15:08] <Hedgework> optikfluffel: check out "man apt-get" for your answer :)
[15:10] <optikfluffel> jelly: thanks :) (to Hedgework too)
[15:15] <Guest22556> how safe is it to update the kernel for 12.04 to 13.18?
[15:16] <OerHeks> Guest22556, bad, as the kernel mainline ppa has no candidate for precise
[15:17] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[15:17] <mcphail> Guest22556: you can compile your own and roll back if it doesn't work
[15:18] <hhh> how about 13.12?
[15:19] <jelly> hhh: he meant 3.18
[15:20] <Guest22556> my problem is with me having a device with nvidia optimus
[15:20] <nodeman> in my initramfs /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf have some extra stuff that prohibits mdadm --assemble --scan, how can I clean this mess up?
[15:20] <henry__> it still doesn't work
[15:20] <mcphail> Guest22556: not sure upgrading the kernel is going to help that
[15:21] <henry__> It show the gui and disappear right away
[15:21] <Guest22556> it did when i installed trusty
[15:21] <Guest22556> but now i'm planning on replacing it with caelinux
[15:21] <Guest22556> which is based on precise
[15:22] <DJones> Guest22556: I've got a a laptop with Optimus (Nvidia 750/Intel) I've not had any issues using 14.04 or 14.10
[15:22] <Guest22556> that is correct
[15:23] <Guest22556> however i need to install caelinux which is based on precise
[15:23] <nodeman> I think I may have fixed the error, thanks
[15:23] <henry__> anyway, thanks bynarie
[15:24] <bynarie> sure
[15:24] <Guest22556> precise wasn't good in terms of managing dynamic gpu switching
[15:24] <Guest22556> due to its outdated kernel
[15:24] <mcphail> Guest22556: isn't the switching done in userspace, rather than the kernel?
[15:25] <Franco_> Hi
[15:25] <Franco_> Help me please
[15:25] <Franco_> ayudaa
[15:26] <Ramchandra-Apte> !ubbotu ask|Franco_
[15:26] <Franco_> Alguien que hable español que me ayude? tengo un problema en mi ubuntu
[15:26] <mcphail> Guest22556: I don't think bumblebee or optirun exist in precise
[15:27] <Franco_> i have a problem with install Net Framework 4.0 in my ubuntu 12.04
[15:27] <Ramchandra-Apte> Franco_: Hablas tu problema.
[15:27] <Franco_> me pasa que
[15:27] <Franco_> quiero instalar el net framework 4.0
[15:27] <Franco_> pero cuando extrae y carga el instalador
[15:27] <Franco_> acepto las condiciones
[15:27] <cfhowlett> !es | Franco_
[15:27] <Franco_> doy instalar y me salta un problema que dice
[15:28] <Franco_> Disk :C Space required 64u mb availlable 64u mb
[15:28] <Franco_> y tengo mucha memoria
[15:28] <Franco_> he buscado en google a varios les pasas
[15:28] <Franco_> tengo el wine 1.6 la ultima version
[15:28] <Franco_> que puedo hacer?
[15:28] <phaidros> Franco_: please use #ubuntu-es or re-ask in english, as this is an english speaking channel
[15:28] <OerHeks> !english | Franco_
[15:28] <Franco_> :c
[15:28] <phaidros> ;)
[15:28] <Ramchandra-Apte> Ah, yes, I forgot about that :-) Franco_ por favor vas con el #ubuntu-es channel.
[15:29] <Franco_> ok :c
[15:31] <Guest22556> all i know is when kernel 13.12 was released it had gpu runtime power management in its release features, so i gave trusty a go, no gpu issues whatsoever. i need to know what is the latest kernel that is safe to upgrade to for precise to superceed or match trusty's?
[15:32] <mcphail> Guest22556: honestly, just try any one. You can always roll back as the previous kernel will be available in GRUB
[15:32] <Guest22556> well thank you :-D
[15:32] <cristian_c> Hello
[15:33] <Guest22556> if i run into trouble i'll just ask here
[15:33] <cristian_c> How can I browse in a mailing list archive via ubuntu?
[15:33] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[15:33] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, every decent list has logs.  check the info
[15:33] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, I've checked the info
[15:34] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, I get 404 not found
[15:34] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, name of list?
[15:34] <cristian_c> on sourceforge
[15:34] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, libinklevel-testers
[15:34] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, looking
[15:36] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, seems that option isn't there.  send a query to libinklevel-tester@lists.sourceforge.net
[15:36] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, a query?
[15:36] <cfhowlett> question
[15:37] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, I don't know if e-mail messages to that list are delivered
[15:37] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, then no need to search the logs , eh?  :)
[15:37] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, so, I'd like to browse in the archives
[15:37] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, no, I've to search in the logs
[15:38] <cristian_c> to see if messages are delivered
[15:41] <Pici> cristian_c: Try asking in #sourceforge perhaps?
[15:41] <rhn_mk0> hi! I'm getting an error about wine: Package 'wine1.7-i386' has no installation candidate.
[15:41] <rhn_mk0> is it possible that I don't have the 32-bit repo enabled?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> !wine
[15:42] <rhn_mk0> http://wklej.org/id/1596602/ - this only mentions amd64
[15:42] <hydrajump> is it possible to restart/refresh `nm-applet` or `network-manager` without breaking the network connection?
[15:43] <flounders> With the new kernel (3.13.0-44) is anyone having issues with mounting USB drives?
[15:43] <cristian_c> Pici, ok
[15:43] <genii> !info wine
[15:43] <DJones> rhn_mk0: From what I can see, Wine in utopic is only at version 1.6, if its the ppa version, you'll probably need to query the ppa maintainer about it
[15:43] <BluesKaj> rhn_mk0,  mkae sure you have the universe repos enabled
[15:44] <genii> You must have a PPA if it's saying 1.7 and not 1.6
[15:44] <GraemeLion> flounders: Have you rebooted after the kernel installed?
[15:44] <fwaokda> anyone know how to get fixtures to work with carrierwave? I've tried the following methods here but to no avail... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7534341/rails-3-test-fixtures-with-carrierwave/25315883#25315883
[15:44] <rhn_mk0> DJones, others: I tried version 1.6 first with the same result
[15:45] <flounders> GraemeLion: Yes I did, which is when I discovered USB wasn't working. I am currently booted into 3.13.0-43 so I could transfer a file.
[15:48] <rhn_mk0> when i run apt-cache policy, should there be i386 entry for each repo?
[15:50] <Kento_> Hi guys . My wifi connection is working bad. It disconnects often automatically and bluetooth is not working. Can anyone help me please?(Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe)  lspci output is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9756380/
[15:52] <jrg> Kento_: wifi in general is rather flakey in linux... especially the realtek and broadcomm stuff.. have you tried to see if there is maybe a proprietary driver for it?
[15:53] <GunArm> any apple-ey humans know if I can use DDRescue to clone a mac OSX hard drive?
[15:53] <cfhowlett> GunArm, dd doesn't care about the OS it copies
[15:53] <Ramchandra-Apte> realtek was working well on my previous systems
[15:53] <Ramchandra-Apte> GunArm: Yes.
[15:54] <GunArm> cfhowlett: i've never used dd for cloning OS's though some I'm not sure about the nuances, don't you also have to copy the MBR seperatly somehow?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> !clone | GunArm, why not clone?
[15:54] <Ramchandra-Apte> the MBR is contained in the disk
[15:54] <cfhowlett> GunArm, wait ... clonezilla
[15:55] <Ramchandra-Apte> Yes, clonezilla makes sense. DDrescue is only for bad sectors and hard drive problems.
[15:56] <GunArm> thats what i've used ddrescue for in the past, backing up raid array elements, but it seemed like it would work well for other things.  but clonezilla looks interesting
[15:56] <OerHeks> Kento_, probably wireless N is the issue, trottle back to wireless B/G
[15:57] <GunArm> is clonezilla in the repos or will I need to boot live media?
[15:57] <GunArm> (I'm not at home to TIAS)
[15:57] <GunArm> and clonezilla will deal with the MBR and everything?
[15:57] <cfhowlett> !info clonezilla | GunArm
[15:58] <cfhowlett> GunArm, as I understand it yes ... read the wiki though
[15:58] <Ramchandra-Apte> GunArm: for full-disk cloning I wouldn't suggest copying the mbr and everything directly
[15:58] <Ramchandra-Apte> (if you want to boot an os)
[16:00] <rhn_mk0> solution: apt-get install multiarch-support
[16:06] <Ziggurat> Is there anywhere I can read the procedure of posting a free opensoruce application to the ubuntu universe repository?
[16:07] <redDawn> Zigg https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[16:07] <GraemeLion> Ziggurat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[16:07] <GunArm> Ramchandra-Apte: can you expand on that?  why not?
[16:07] <Ziggurat> Thanks!
[16:08] <GraemeLion> Generally the rule is, get Debian to go on it, and it'll get pulled in on the import freeze
[16:09] <GunArm> for the record what I'm trying to do is upgrade the storage in my gf's macbook, so I just wanted to clone her drive onto a bigger drive and put that in
[16:09] <Hedgework> Gnurdux: Because if the two disks are even slightly different sizes and you clone via dd or similar, you can give it a broken partition table which looks like it works until such time as you suddenly lose data.
[16:09] <ApplesInArrays> I'm getting 100% of /dev/simfs in use. How would I go about resizing?
[16:09] <GunArm> Hedgework: so what's the best way to do what I'm trying to do then?
[16:10] <tomodachi> Hedgework: thats not entierly true
[16:10] <GunArm> generally?  i can research the specifics
[16:10] <Hedgework> tomodachi: it's not ALWAYS true, but it's sometimes true, and I prefer methods where that is never true.
[16:10] <tomodachi> GunArm: if your destination disk is bigger than the source disk dd will work fine
[16:10] <tomodachi> Hedgework:  read above
[16:10] <tomodachi> then afterwards you can resize partitions with your tool of choice to fill in the blank space
[16:10] <BluesKaj> Hedgework, a partitoner like gparted can set/fix the partition within the check option
[16:11] <tomodachi> GunArm: i did this on a macbook that had win , linux and osx successfully
[16:11] <Hedgework> BluesKaj, tomodachi: that does work in theory...haven't tried it in years as I'd written it off as "too flakey to trust"...if you've done it more recently I'll defer to your more up-to-date knowledge.
[16:11]  * Hedgework resizes lvs, but tries not to resize partitions.
[16:11] <erichf> Hello, I have a question: I am trying to install intellij to /opt/ but I have to sudo everything -- and then chown everything to my user -- is there a better way to install things?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> Hedgework, it worked for me just a few months ago
[16:12] <erichf> I'm the only user, I guess I could install to my home directory
[16:12] <erichf> I'll probably do that
[16:13] <erichf> Next Question: should my home directory follow FHS?
[16:13] <KoboldMcGee> Hey I cannot find my Update-manager I typed it into the dash and not even my terminal knows what I'm talking about
[16:13] <Hedgework> erichf: you can install to your homedir if you prefer, though I don't understand why "sudo -s; <install things>; chmod -R 755 </opt/stuff>" is burdensome.
[16:13] <GunArm> tomodachi: so I can just put in her old drive (say it mounts to /dev/sdg) and the new drive (/dev/sdh),  I should be able to # ddrescue /dev/sdg /dev/sdh   and it willcopy the main partition and the MBR, and then use GParted to expand the partition to the rest of the drive?
[16:13] <Hedgework> KoboldMcGee: are you trying to do it as a regular user?
[16:14] <KoboldMcGee> Nope I'm an admin
[16:14] <erichf> Hedgework: its not, I just don't know what the standard is
[16:14] <erichf> I like your suggesetion though
[16:14] <Sh3r1ff> GunArm: affirmative
[16:14] <tomodachi> GunArm: mounting is pointless
[16:14] <GunArm> sorry I didn't mean mount it
[16:14] <GunArm> just it registerrs as that device for example
[16:15] <tomodachi> GunArm: yup as long as the destination is smaller dd will work fine
[16:15] <tomodachi> I guarantee it
[16:15] <tomodachi> just dd the entire device
[16:15] <GunArm> destination is larger you mean
[16:15] <KoboldMcGee> I'm using a practically fresh install of unity on my chromebook
[16:15] <Sh3r1ff> GunArm: just make sure you are dd'ing from full to empty, they call dd the disc destroyer for a reason ;)
[16:15] <tomodachi> yes larger
[16:15] <tomodachi> dst = larger
[16:15] <GunArm> right
[16:15] <GunArm> Sh3r1ff: hehe
[16:16] <ssequeira> is this the place for questions about Evolution?
[16:16] <mgedmin> I'd say it is _a_ place for questions about evolution
[16:17] <ssequeira> mgedmin: okay, so I have 2 factor authentication on gmail, and evolution is refusing to sync.
[16:17] <GunArm> so the possible errors Hedgework were talking about, would have been to do with the file system pointing to disk sectors that didn't exist on a smaller hard drive?
[16:17] <mgedmin> ssequeira, there's also #evolution on irc.gnome.org (https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/IRC)
[16:17] <mgedmin> if you don't get an answer here, you may want to try there
[16:17] <erichf> Hedgework: why use sudo -s instead of sudo su? I have never seen sudo -s before.
[16:17] <erichf> s, --shell
[16:17] <erichf>                  Run the shell specified by the SHELL environment variable if it is set or the shell specified by the invoking user's password database entry.  If a command is specified, it is passed
[16:17] <erichf>                  to the shell for execution via the shell's -c option.  If no command is specified, an interactive shell is executed.
[16:17]  * mgedmin doesn't use evolution nor 2 factor auth :/
[16:18] <mgedmin> erichf, because why use two programs when one is sufficient?
[16:18] <mgedmin> sudo su always seemed weird to me
[16:18] <Hedgework> erichf: "sudo -s" is slightly cleaner than "sudo su" (as you are using one privilege-escalating utility instead of two), and thus is my preference only out of sheer OCD-curmudgeonliness.
[16:19] <erichf> mgedmin -- the two programs being sudo AND su ? -- I'm guessing if no user is specified to sudo, root is chosen?
[16:19] <ssequeira> I have 2 factor authentication enabled with gmail and evolution keeps rejecting my password for some reason.
[16:19] <erichf> specified to su*
[16:19] <Hedgework> erichf: correct
[16:19] <erichf> ok
[16:19] <erichf> did not know that
[16:19] <erichf> thank you
[16:19] <ssequeira> I don't know if that's how it works, or if there's something wrong with it.
[16:19] <mgedmin> there's also sudo -i
[16:20] <mgedmin> one of them just runs a root shell, the other also changes environment bits to simulate a login session
[16:20] <mgedmin> so $HOME changes etc.
[16:20] <erichf> sudo -i seems pretty neat
[16:20] <chrisss123456> hey all, anyone know how to use xmodmap? I'd like to use the alt-gr key on my laptop, but the computer doesnt seem to recognize it, and I was told to use xmodmap. Anyone?
[16:21] <erichf> sudo -s seems to be keeping everything in my personal users dotfiles, which i prefer
[16:21] <erichf> my root user has no bash customization
[16:23] <chrisss123456> no one know how to use xmodmap?
[16:24] <compdoc> sudo -i is what I use. just make sure you dont change ownership of files in your home directory
[16:24] <Hedgework> chrisss123456: on ubuntu, there are keymaps that enable alt-gr for you, so consider switching to them.  That said, xmodmap has pretty good docs :)
[16:24] <Kento_> Hi guys I have issue isntalling this driver ( sudo dkms install -m rt3290sta -v 2.6.0.0 --force) output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9756560/    source: http://askubuntu.com/questions/545238/how-to-install-wifi-driver-ralink-rt3290
[16:24] <Ramchandra-Apte> GunArm: Different systems have different configurations and things. You are installing ubuntu? then you can copy your files and make it install in an existing filesystem
[16:24] <erichf> Hedgework and mgedmin: so I have intellij in opt -- what is the standard regarding idea/bin/idea.sh? Should I make a link in my user's bin file to this file?
[16:24] <chrisss123456> Hedgework: oh thanks :) how do I install a keymap though?
[16:24] <chrisss123456> (silly question, i know)
[16:25] <theadmin> chrisss123456: You don't need to install one, you just need to choose the right keyboard layout under System Settings -> Keyboard
[16:25] <Hedgework> what theadmin said :)
[16:25] <ungov> Hello, I just installed KXstudio and now I don't get any audio out
[16:25] <ungov>     of my system. Any troubleshoot ideas?
[16:26] <cfhowlett> !audio | ungov
[16:26] <chrisss123456> Hedgework: theadmin: ah. i have some issues with that actually. i dont seem to have the right option in the settings panel. i can only choose repeat key rates and cursor blinking, or edit shortcuts...
[16:26] <ungov> Thanks ubottu, will try that
[16:26] <Hedgework> chrisss123456: sorry, I really don't know any of the gui tools, I'm a CLI sort of lady.
[16:26] <theadmin> chrisss123456: It's under the "Layout" tab but
[16:26] <theadmin> They could of moved it, I dunno
[16:27] <chrisss123456> theadmin: I don't have a Layout tab... :/ i have 14.04 though, and it should be there. dont know why it's not
[16:28] <theadmin> chrisss123456: Oh! It's under "Text Entry" now, not "Keyboard".
[16:28] <theadmin> Hamsters moving things all over the place.
[16:28] <chrisss123456> theadmin: ah they seem to have moved it to text entry. ok. i have Compose Level3 Super in the place of the Alt-gr key. I dont know why it doesnt let me use it for shortcuts...
[16:28] <KoboldMcGee> How do I update from 12.04?
[16:29] <theadmin> KoboldMcGee: Just run the Update Manager, check for updates and install all of them, then you should get a notification that states a new Ubuntu release is available.
[16:29] <Kento_> Hi guys I have issue isntalling this driver ( sudo dkms install -m rt3290sta -v 2.6.0.0 --force) output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9756560/    source: http://askubuntu.com/questions/545238/how-to-install-wifi-driver-ralink-rt3290 Can anyone help me please
[16:29] <arshia> Hi , i've installed vim-gnome by the terminal , in software center i see that is installed. but when i search on ubuntu , i don't see anything. why ?
[16:30] <KoboldMcGee> Where do I find the update manager?
[16:30] <Sh3r1ff> arshia: what happens when you type vim in a terminal?
[16:30] <arshia> it will install with no errror
[16:30] <theadmin> KoboldMcGee: Eh, just type "Update Manager" in the dash search
[16:31] <Sh3r1ff> arshia: typing vim in a terminal doesn't install it, it runs it ;)
[16:31] <arshia> no
[16:31] <KoboldMcGee> nothing comes up
[16:31] <Sh3r1ff> arshia: what does it say?
[16:32] <chrisss123456> theadmin: any idea about why compose level3 super doesnt show up when making a shortcut?
[16:32] <arshia> i dont know
[16:32] <arshia> i cannot find the massage
[16:33] <Sh3r1ff> arshia: which message?
[16:33] <cfhowlett> !
[16:33] <arshia> what , it says that it cannot download some files
[16:33] <arshia> what ___> wait
[16:34] <arshia> but why ?
[16:34] <Sh3r1ff> arshia: so the install fails?
[16:34] <arshia> looks like
[16:34] <KoboldMcGee> theadmin, nothing popped up
[16:34] <Sh3r1ff> arshia: does it specify what gives an error?
[16:35] <theadmin> chrisss123456: Because it's a compose key...
[16:35] <theadmin> chrisss123456: It's not an actual "key", it's more of a modifier similar to Shift but
[16:35] <theadmin> chrisss123456: For example, on my keyboard AltGr+A = Á
[16:35] <theadmin> chrisss123456: It does this kinda stuff
[16:35] <arshia> wait a minute , it was not for gnome vim
[16:36] <arshia> how to find the terminal history ?
[16:36] <kolf> type "history" ;)
[16:36] <arshia> is terminal has a history ?
[16:37] <Sh3r1ff> arshia: scroll up, use arrow up to see the commands entered (.bash_history) or use ctrl + R to search for a command entered
[16:38] <exonine> Can anybody give me some direction as to how to set default xsession in Ubuntu 14.04?
[16:38] <exonine> In 10.04 there used to be this: http://www.instructables.com/file/F8HY1ERGB4CYISO
[16:40] <Kento_> Hi guys I have issue isntalling Wifi driver ( sudo dkms install -m rt3290sta -v 2.6.0.0 --force) output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9756560/    source: http://askubuntu.com/questions/545238/how-to-install-wifi-driver-ralink-rt3290 Can anyone help me please
[16:40] <arshia> sudo aptitude install vim-gnome
[16:40] <arshia> this was the command i entered
[16:40] <Sh3r1ff> arshia: and the error it returned?
[16:40] <arshia> wait a minute to see the history
[16:42] <KoboldMcGee> Can anyone help me update?
[16:43] <arshia> no , i cannot see the history again.
[16:43] <arshia> you told me that what should i do , but i didn't succeed.
[16:43] <Sh3r1ff> arshia: run the command again and see what it returns
[16:44] <arshia> Reading package lists... Done
[16:44] <arshia> Building dependency tree
[16:44] <arshia> Reading state information... Done
[16:44] <arshia> vim-gnome is already the newest version.
[16:44] <arshia> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 286 not upgraded.
[16:44] <arshia> arshia@ArshiaAghaei:~$ sudo apt-get install vim-gnome
[16:44] <arshia> Reading package lists... Done
[16:44] <arshia> Building dependency tree
[16:44] <arshia> Reading state information... Done
[16:44] <arshia> vim-gnome is already the newest version.
[16:44] <arshia> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 286 not upgraded.
[16:44] <Sh3r1ff> arshia: vim-gnome is installed
[16:45] <Sh3r1ff> arshia: type vim in a terminal and press enter, what happens?
[16:45] <RamchandraApte> arshia: use a paste don't spam the chat :-)
[16:46] <arshia> someone told me if i want to use the graphical vim , i should install vim-gnome
[16:46] <arshia> graphical = GUI based
[16:47] <Sh3r1ff> arshia: sudo aptitude install vim-gnome installed it ;)
[16:48] <arshia> i know , but isn't it GUI based ??
[16:48] <theadmin> arshia: If you installed "vim-gnome", you should run "vim-gnome".
[16:48] <theadmin> "vim" is command line.
[16:48] <arshia> from terminal ??
[16:48] <theadmin> I usually use vim-gtk which is the official GUI version though
[16:48] <theadmin> arshia: Well, I dunno if that adds a GUI shortcut. vim-gtk does
[16:49] <theadmin> !info vim-gtk
[16:49] <RoBo_V> hey guys  i need to know about & operaor use in terminal wha we cann it in ubuntu ?
[16:49] <RoBo_V> and servies
[16:49] <RoBo_V> i read about it but forgot
[16:49] <arshia> got it.
[16:49] <RamchandraApte> & runs processes in paralell
[16:49] <theadmin> RoBo_V: Generally, command1 & command2 runs command1 and command2 at the same time
[16:50] <theadmin> Some use it for special street magic, for example command &disown will keep the command running after you close the terminal.
[16:50] <RoBo_V> ahem and && this mean sequential ?
[16:50] <RamchandraApte> RoBo_V: Yup.
[16:50] <RamchandraApte> If the previous command succeeds.
[16:50] <theadmin> RoBo_V: && is a bit weird. It runs the second command only if the first one gives no error.
[16:50] <arshia> same result
[16:50] <arshia> no change
[16:50] <arshia> i installed vim-gtk
[16:50] <theadmin> RoBo_V: If you want to run commands sequentially regardless of success, use ;
[16:51] <RamchandraApte> a | b runs b when a fails. a;b runs a and then b irrespective of a's status code
[16:51] <Lee-> Not sure this is appropriate channel. I'm trying to set a udev rule to set the autosuspend_delay_ms of my mouse whenever I connect it. I've tried different variations of this rule, but without success. I think I have a syntax error, but I'm not familiar enough with udev to notice it. Any assistance appreciated. Thanks: ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1532", ATTR{power/autosuspend_delay_ms}="600000"
[16:51] <RoBo_V> theadmin: ok noted
[16:51] <theadmin> RamchandraApte: You mean ||
[16:51] <theadmin> RamchandraApte: | sends output of a to b.
[16:51] <Lee-> I've seen examples that use ATTR and ATTRS, so I'm no tsure which is correct. Also this is a usb3 port, so I've tried both usb and usb3
[16:51] <RamchandraApte> theadmin: I stand corrected
[16:51] <RoBo_V> and there is one more operator i forgot that when we put at end of command line it runs operation but in background...
[16:52] <RoBo_V> what we call it ?
[16:52] <arshia> Sh3r1ff & theadmin :
[16:52] <RamchandraApte> a & will run a in the background
[16:52] <arshia> I installed the vim-gtk , but the same result
[16:53] <RoBo_V> I see so & performing dual operations...
[16:54] <arshia> what is the problem ? i want to save the cpp & h files to a folder. can i do it with vim in terminal ???
[16:55] <RoBo_V> thanks guys
[16:55] <fwaokda> When I do testing. I've tested my model for it's validations for "city" and "state".  I then have a method called "location" that simply returns the string "#{city}, #{state}".  What would i write a test for on that method?
[16:56] <RamchandraApte> fwaokda: Wrong channel? This channel is for ubuntu not for programming :D
[16:56] <fwaokda> RamchandraApte, yup thanks!
[16:57] <RoBo_V> and guys when using & this operator ti run in backgroud. what coomand to check total services running in background ?
[16:58] <RamchandraApte> RoBo_V: jobs afaik
[16:58] <pksadiq> RoBo_V: jobs
[16:58] <RamchandraApte> (and bg and fg to move jobs to foreground or background)
[16:58] <RoBo_V> and stopping jobs ?
[16:58] <cpt_yossarian> (and you can use kill %n where n is the job to kill them)
[16:59] <RoBo_V> ahh yes remember now... thanks RamchandraApte pksadiq cpt_yossarian
[16:59] <cpt_yossarian> np
[17:00] <pksadiq> arshia: first cd to directory where you need the file to be saved. then vim filename.cpp  and write the code. Then save...
[17:02] <leitao> how does Ubuntu handles the leap second problem? Is it a problem for ubuntu, after all?
[17:03] <jpds> leitao: https://lwn.net/Articles/629010/
[17:04] <JediMaster> is it possible to specify a destination IP (one on the local machine) within a rule in UFW?
[17:04] <hydrajump> how would I compile and install this example indicator on 14.04 http://askubuntu.com/a/234204
[17:05] <jpds> JediMaster: Yep.
[17:05] <JediMaster> I want to block port 80 by defualt on one IP of the server, but allow certain IPs access, but other IPs on the local machine should carry on serving port 80
[17:05] <JediMaster> jpds, how? =) "to any" is only for the protocol tcp/udp
[17:06] <jpds> JediMaster: sudo ufw allow in proto tcp from network/mask to $IP port 80
[17:06] <JediMaster> jpds, thanks very much, couldn't see it on the ubuntu wiki page
[17:06] <jpds> JediMaster: Read the man page, it has examples. :)
[17:07] <JediMaster> jpds, duh, I see =)
[17:07] <JediMaster> ufw allow proto udp from 1.2.3.5 port 5469 to 1.2.3.4 port 5469
[17:07] <JediMaster> for instance
[17:08] <JediMaster> thanks
[17:15] <Abner__> What is the gdm ubuntu use for default?  lightgdm?
[17:15] <RamchandraApte> lightdm afaik
[17:18] <Abner__> thanks, anyone know how do I set lightgdm to request the user? I wanna write the username on login screen instead of to choose one
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> Abner__: you need to edit lightdm for that
[17:20] <Abner__> do you knows what is the file?
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> Abner__: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[17:20] <jhutchins> Abner__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[17:20] <Abner__> thx
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> Abner__: [SeatDefaults]
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> allow-guest = false
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> greeter-hide-users=true
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> greeter-show-manual-login=true
[17:24] <DrManhattan> I have upgrade my samba to version 4.1.6 but Im still getting the talloc memory leak error. Is there any way I can keep samba password sync to user accounts and get rid of this memory error?
[17:26] <tytan> Do you know if the nvidia driver installed with the xorg-edgers  ppa will be updated by apt in ubuntu?
[17:27] <everald> Somehow our ubuntu ended up with 14 header packages installed. How comes? Is it safe to remove all of them except for the current one?
[17:28] <theadmin> everald: You mean the kernel stuff?
[17:28] <theadmin> everald: Yeah. Ubuntu has a somewhat odd kernel update mechanism, it keeps the old ones around. "sudo apt-get autoremove" should help.
[17:29] <daftykins> tytan: that's how PPAs work.
[17:30] <everald> theadmin, ok thanks.
[17:30] <tytan> Sounds perfect ^_^
[17:31] <tytan> Then why doesn't nVidia provide a PPA?
[17:31] <daftykins> tytan: the only reason to use edgers is if your card needs v340+ though. otherwise stick with 331 from ubuntu's repos
[17:31] <daftykins> tytan: ask them.
[17:31] <theadmin> tytan: Because they don't want to pay Canonical for Launchpad hosting?
[17:32] <theadmin> Their software is closed-source, Launchpad is free only for open projects.
[17:32] <tytan> Well, I assume my nVidia GT 720 is too new for the "old" drivers :/
[17:32] <daftykins> i sincerely doubt they would use launchpad.
[17:32] <daftykins> tytan: that'd be a poor assumption
[17:32] <tytan> Didn't work with additional drivers
[17:33] <tytan> Same with GTX 750 Ti
[17:33] <daftykins> every version?
[17:33] <DrManhattan> I have upgrade my samba to version 4.1.6 but Im still getting the talloc memory leak error. Is there any way I can keep samba password sync to user accounts and get rid of this memory error?
[17:33] <daftykins> GTX 750Ti is a totally different ballgame, that one requires 340+
[17:33] <tytan> It didn't even suggest drivers
[17:34] <daftykins> ah ok maybe it does need newer then :>
[17:35] <tytan> Maybe I did something wrong or different ^^; Who knows ... But I wasn't able to install any distro besides the ubuntu 14.04.X based ones :(
[17:35] <daftykins> well that's the best choice anyway, LTS is always preferable
[17:35] <daftykins> but no you probably just had to boot with nomodeset if your card is maxwell based
[17:35] <daftykins> i'm not familiar with the GT 720
[17:35] <tytan> I'm curious about elementary OS Freya release
[17:36] <cfhowlett> tytan, not supported or on-topic in this channel
[17:36] <tytan> Just like nVidia
[17:36] <daftykins> !elementary
[17:36] <tytan> In fact eOS is closer to the topic than nVidia :D
[17:37] <daftykins> tytan: if you're running something other than ubuntu then you shouldn't be here.
[17:37] <daftykins> nvidia is a fine topic.
[17:37] <daftykins> it constitutes OS support
[17:37] <tytan> Calm down. Right now I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.1 amd64
[17:37] <daftykins> we're calm, we're just stating rules and policy.
[17:38] <OerHeks> tytan, Nvidia 331.67 and up should work, but it is not in the repos, nvidia 343 is in https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:38] <daftykins> heh, kinda already went over that ;)
[17:39] <tytan> OerHeks: Thank you. I already installed nvidia-346 over the xorg-edgers PPA ^^
[17:39] <KeepXtreme> hi there, can support me with AD join with winbind
[17:39] <akshat10> #join
[17:39] <KeepXtreme> *anyone
[17:40] <tytan> KeepXtreme: I don't even know what you're talking about yet :P
[17:40] <daftykins> tytan: don't offer support if you don't have a clue ;)
[17:41] <tytan> I offered support? :O
[17:42] <daftykins> you know what i mean :) this isn't a chat channel.
[17:42] <KeepXtreme> Os: kubuntu14.10 - Kerberos is configured corretly and working, winbind is installed and configured like on my other debian wheezy/jessie machines. However, when I try "net ads join Domain -U Admin" I get an error: "Failed to join domain: failed to set machine spn: Out of memory
[17:42] <KeepXtreme> ADS join did not work, falling back to RPC...". Thus a machine account was created in AD. Also wbinfo -u/-g won't give any results
[17:43] <tytan> Ok guys, since I don't have an Ubuntu specific problem at the moment I'm leaving to find a "chat channel". Thank you and have a nice day ^^
[17:43] <daftykins> #ubuntu-offtopic is that
[17:45] <weeirc8089> what's the difference in disk space between installed 32 bit and 64 bit OS?
[17:45] <weeirc8089> freshly installed *
[17:45] <weeirc8089> anyone know?
[17:45] <cfhowlett> weeirc8089, very insignificant I would suspect
[17:47] <Lee-> I'm trying to write a udev rule to set the autosuspend_delay_ms of my mouse whenever I connect it (to a usb3 port). My udev rule doesn't work and I've tried many variations of it without success. Can someone provide some assistance? Thanks! Here's an example of my rule: ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1532", ATTR{power/autosuspend_delay_ms}="600000"
[17:49] <nomic> weeirc8089 there is the same disk space  --- 32 bit / 64 bit is the way the processor operates, not the disk
[17:50] <weeirc8089> nomic: nope, the compiled apps are different in size for x86 vs x64 architecture... they are
[17:50] <weeirc8089> nomic: nope, the compiled apps are different in size for x86 vs x64 architecture... they are, honest
[17:50] <nomic> yes but the amount of space on the disk
[17:50] <nomic> is the same
[17:50] <nomic> always
[17:51] <weeirc8089> nomic: nope, 64 bit instructions in binary code are somewhat longer in bytes per instruction
[17:51] <jamie_> can someone help me with diagnosing a problem with thunderbird
[17:51] <weeirc8089> nevermind
[17:53] <jamie_> I know it is a mozillas software.... funnily enough considering i work for them.... but there is no one really in tb qa over there
[17:54] <hydrajump> is it possible to restart any of the default indicators without restarting lightdm?
[17:54] <hydrajump> for instance the ug-accessibility is it possible to refresh/reload that indicator?
[17:55] <squinty> jamie:  irc.mozilla.org   #thunderbird  (offical channel)
[17:56] <Nensher> l
[17:56] <jamie_> wow... I guess the one listed for us is wrong then
[17:56] <MACscr> anyone running their own private or even public deb repo? can it be done so that its not arch or version specific? i think so, but havent figured it out
[17:57] <nokiomanz> Hi all, I have a a small ubuntu server with a few service such as apache installed. as time goes by the server as less and less memory avaiable until none is free.  Anything I can use to see is there is a memory leak somewhere ?!
[17:58] <quackgyver> I just bought an Intel NUC computer and installed Ubuntu on it, but after rebooting it says it can't find any OS
[17:58] <quackgyver> I've tried both enabling and disabling UEFI
[17:58] <daftykins> nokiomanz: default apache config spawns too many workers, try tweaking it
[17:58] <OerHeks> MACscr, if you publisch on launchpad, you will serve 32/64 bit automaticly
[17:58] <quackgyver> Anyone know what could be wrong?
[17:59] <daftykins> nokiomanz: however also bear in mind www.linuxatemyram.com if you're newish to Linux admin
[17:59] <compdoc> quackgyver, need to set storage to legacy in the bios
[17:59] <quackgyver> compdoc: It's already set to legacy
[17:59] <Lee-> quackgyver, did you try disabling secure boot?
[17:59] <MACscr> Ornacia: i honestly just need it for internal use. Want to use it for check_mk agent packages
[17:59] <nokiomanz> daftykins: Thanks for the second link. That I am aware of. When i say a small server i mean small as in to test stuff up. I have 32gig ram in it :p
[18:00] <compdoc> quackgyver, what did you boot from to install?
[18:00] <quackgyver> compdoc: UEFI + Legacy
[18:00] <quackgyver> Lee-: I don't know what that is :o
[18:00] <daftykins> nokiomanz: what does top show as the top processes consuming RAM?
[18:01] <compdoc> quackgyver, I mean did you boot from a usb stick, or what?
[18:01] <quackgyver> compdoc: Yeah, I installed from USB.
[18:02] <compdoc> quackgyver, at the end, grub might have been installed on your usb stick. theres a point when it asks to install grub, and you need to stop and be sure to install to the OS drive
[18:03] <nokiomanz> daftykins: when i run a top and sort by memory usage. I have about 10-15 httpd each using 0.2-0.3% memory. memcached is using 3% and then we have all the 0.0%
[18:03] <daftykins> nokiomanz: is this really ubuntu server? because it's not called httpd under ubuntu
[18:03] <daftykins> nokiomanz: can you pastebin a 'free -m' ?
[18:04] <quackgyver> compdoc: You mean using the boot disk creator thingy?
[18:04] <daftykins> quackgyver: no the ubuntu install
[18:04] <compdoc> during the install, it asks if you want to install grub. its near the end
[18:06] <daftykins> nah it's on the partitioner stage
[18:06] <quackgyver> huh
[18:06] <quackgyver> ok
[18:06] <quackgyver> and i should cancel that?
[18:06] <quackgyver> why is that, out of curiosity?
[18:07] <compdoc> not during the partitioner stage
[18:07] <daftykins> it is on manual
[18:09] <nokiomanz> daftykins: I normaly manage centos system so im used to say httpd :p         http://pastebin.com/Vt9e0E4a
[18:10] <quackgyver> Hm
[18:10] <quackgyver> I'm not sure what to do
[18:10] <quackgyver> should I install it from USB again?
[18:10] <quackgyver> with UEFI turned off and Legacy turned on?
[18:11] <daftykins> yes, selecting manual partitioning. then compare the drive letters with what disks "sudo parted -l" reports
[18:11] <quackgyver> ok
[18:12] <daftykins> i don't see any reason for the EFI vs legacy choice, maybe look up your exact model NUC and look for quirks
[18:12] <daftykins> make sure you have an up to date 'BIOS' too.
[18:12] <quackgyver> daftykins: well i can check UEFI and check Legacy
[18:12] <quackgyver> originally both were checked
[18:12] <quackgyver> under boot order
[18:12] <daftykins> yeah so your flash drive will boot in a mode relevant to one of those
[18:12] <daftykins> !efi
[18:12] <daftykins> you can see the difference there
[18:12] <quackgyver> ugh this is too confusing
[18:13] <daftykins> go buy Windows then :)
[18:13] <quackgyver> Already have it. Figured I'd give Ubuntu a shot.
[18:13] <quackgyver> Didn't expect this though.
[18:13] <Lee-> idk about those intel NUC machines, but I use Ubuntu on my laptop with UEFI and secure boot just fine
[18:14] <quackgyver> Should I enable or disable the "Internal UEFI Shell"?
[18:15] <quackgyver> Weird, now it can't find the USB stick
[18:15] <daftykins> that option bears no relevance
[18:15] <daftykins> so power off and back on :)
[18:15] <daftykins> use your head!
[18:16] <quackgyver> I've already rebooted many times
[18:16] <everald> I'm looking for a CD ripper that can also play CDs. RipperX seems to have some play buttons for every song but it doesn't play. How comes, alternatives?
[18:16] <daftykins> what of power off and on = reboot?
[18:17] <quackgyver> What?
[18:17] <daftykins> i'm saying they're not the same thing :)
[18:17] <daftykins> this NUC got USB 2 and 3 or just 3?
[18:17] <quackgyver> Oh. Well yeah, I've tried soft reboots as well as shutting it off and on again.
[18:18] <Lee-> Ubuntu is defaulting the autosuspend_delay_ms on my USB mouse to 2 seconds, which basically means my mouse goes to sleep after 2 seconds of inactivity. I'm trying to write a udev rule to change this when I connect my mouse, but I'm not having luck. It's as though the rule isn't triggering or my action isn't correct. Can someone point out what I should change? ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1532", ATTR{power/autosuspend_delay_ms}="600000"
[18:18] <quackgyver> USB 3.0
[18:18] <quackgyver> It's got one "USB 2.0 (internal header)" whatever that is
[18:19] <daftykins> quackgyver: only? can you respond in full sentences so i don't have to keep digging to get an answer? :)
[18:19] <quackgyver> Yes, USB 3.0 except for one instance of "USB 2.0 (internal header)"
[18:20] <daftykins> and is there a newer BIOS available?
[18:20] <quackgyver> I don't know.
[18:21] <quackgyver> When I choose "Update BIOS" I only get to choose "Partition 1" which then takes me to a sub-menu with "EFI" which then takes me to a sub-menu with "<ubuntu>"
[18:21] <quackgyver> and <ubuntu> in turn contains nothing
[18:22] <quackgyver> i guess there are some bios updates
[18:22] <quackgyver> maybe ill try updating it
[18:23] <quackgyver> i have version "0021"
[18:23] <quackgyver> and according to this https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=&ProductID=3744&ProdId=3744
[18:23] <quackgyver> theres a version 0033
[18:24] <BlackVenom> Evening folks
[18:27] <kazazi> Hi, i was trying to install from ubuntu repository ( with "sudo apt-get install nova-api ..."  command), in the middle of installation, the hole os restarted by accident.. now i cannot resume installation and it gives me these kind of errors : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9757222/ (Ubuntu 14.04)
[18:27] <BlackVenom> I currently have Ubuntu Server installed, is it easy to change the install to the Desktop edition or will this cause me issues
[18:27] <daftykins> BlackVenom: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[18:27] <goldstar> am using setterm -back to set the background color for my terminal. When I resize the window the color is not updated and as a consequence half the page is the prior color. Are their any workarounds for this issue ?
[18:28] <BlackVenom> Hey daftykins. I found that too when i did a google search
[18:28] <BlackVenom> just wanted to make sure that I wouldn't fook up my install
[18:28] <BlackVenom> or find out it would only do a half ass job lol
[18:29] <quackgyver> Hm. Updating to a later version of the BIOS messed up the graphics
[18:29] <quackgyver> nice
[18:29] <daftykins> BlackVenom: how come you started with server?
[18:29] <daftykins> quackgyver: what graphics? ubuntu live session?
[18:30] <BlackVenom> Because I wanted to tinker with the CLi and force myself to do the whole install and config etc via the CLI
[18:30] <quackgyver> daftykins: Just the terminal + bios
[18:30] <quackgyver> the bios screen became tiny and the commandline got scaled up and blurry
[18:30] <quackgyver> oh wow
[18:30] <quackgyver> it finally decided to boot into ubuntu
[18:30] <daftykins> :P
[18:30] <quackgyver> then again it seems to be loading from my usb stick
[18:30] <quackgyver> so who knows
[18:31] <daftykins> quackgyver: load EFI defaults and power cycle
[18:31] <quackgyver> what does loading power cycle mean
[18:31] <quackgyver> in practice
[18:31] <quackgyver> wow
[18:31] <daftykins> 'loading power cycle' ?
[18:32] <BlackVenom> One last thing daftykins, is it safe to run the command via ssh or should I hook my box upto a monitor
[18:32] <bubbasaures> BlackVenom, Be aware this is a world wide channel how you speak and the words you use have to be clean, this is not twitter
[18:32] <quackgyver> it seems to have taken me to the usb installer
[18:32] <quackgyver> weird
[18:32] <quackgyver> daftykins: you said to load efi defaults and power cycle
[18:32] <quackgyver> idk what that means
[18:32] <daftykins> BlackVenom: you're not gonna get a GUI without a desktop
[18:32] <quackgyver> ill try installing ubuntu again
[18:32] <quackgyver> now that it can finally sense the usb again
[18:32] <daftykins> quackgyver: *sigh* - enter BIOS (the EFI setup) load the defaults, save and exit. then turn off, pull mains, plug back in and turn on
[18:33] <quackgyver> Alright
[18:33] <BlackVenom> sorry bubbasaures I meant it as tongue in cheek comment
[18:33] <daftykins> BlackVenom: you're not gonna get a GUI without a *display
[18:34] <BlackVenom> LOL I know this daftykins :-D I meant am I ok running the install desktop command from the SSH
[18:34] <daftykins> well it might invoke a lightdm start to start X, in which case having no display, you're gonna have a bad time
[18:34] <daftykins> i don't think so, but you're going to need one connected afterwards anyway
[18:34] <BlackVenom> AH right OK
[18:35] <BlackVenom> I wanted to be lazy and hunt out the cable tomorrow haha
[18:35] <BlackVenom> looks like I'll have to do it now
[18:35] <az_> hi
[18:35] <az_> i have ecryptfs, how can i backup my private key to decrypt it?
[18:36] <quackgyver> daftykins: Loading defaults made it boot into Ubuntu
[18:36] <quackgyver> holy shit this is confusing
[18:36] <quackgyver> o_o
[18:36] <daftykins> !language
[18:36] <quackgyver> but thanks for helping me
[18:36] <daftykins> quackgyver: the actual install this time?
[18:36] <quackgyver> no like
[18:36] <quackgyver> the real ubuntu
[18:36] <quackgyver> that i originally installed
[18:36] <daftykins> yes, the install.
[18:36] <quackgyver> the first time around
[18:36] <quackgyver> yeah
[18:36] <quackgyver> the actual install
[18:37] <quackgyver> Thanks a lot for the help.
[18:37] <amigo99> On the [heap]  section of /proc/id/smaps, size is 200MB but the rest is 0 kb. anyone know what this means? Usually the size is close the sum of "Private" and "Shared" http://pastie.org/pastes/9833858/text
[18:37] <quackgyver> Would've had to come to work having to do this tomorrow if you hadn't helped me out. :3
[18:37] <daftykins> quackgyver: these EFI based systems are often buggy as hell, keeping them up to date makes OS installs a lot more predictable.
[18:38] <quackgyver> daftykins: Yeah, apparently so
[18:38] <quackgyver> :3
[18:38] <TeddyMurray> how would i make a backup iso of my server to copy to a virtual machine on my local?
[18:38] <TeddyMurray> i dont have physical access to the ubuntu server
[18:40] <az_> i have ecryptfs, how can i backup my private key to decrypt it?
[18:40] <arshia> how to format a USB in ubuntu ?
[18:40] <daftykins> arshia: run gparted or disks
[18:40] <daftykins> TeddyMurray: consult your virtualisation technology of choices' documentation. ISO is not appropriate
[18:40] <daftykins> !ecrypt
[18:40] <daftykins> !ecryptfs
[18:40] <daftykins> !encryption
[18:40] <arshia> i didn't got it ?
[18:40] <bubbasaures> TeddyMurray, ISO not likely, used to be a 3rd party remastersys, if you can boot an iso with it's grub you could image it.
[18:40] <TeddyMurray> thanks daftykins
[18:40] <daftykins> arshia: what?
[18:41] <navetz> does anyone know how I could get a list of lets say the last 100 modified files, recursively from my home directory?
[18:41] <arshia> i didn't got what you said.
[18:41] <TeddyMurray> cool thanks bubbasaures
[18:41] <daftykins> arshia: run the programs gparted, or disks.
[18:41] <bubbasaures> TeddyMurray, Must be more ways, just my limitations is all.
[18:42] <arshia> hmmm ... thank you
[18:42] <arshia> the format option is disablef
[18:42] <arshia> disabled
[18:42] <daftykins> maybe you need to make a partition first
[18:43] <bubbasaures> or a table
[18:43] <arshia> partition of USB ????
[18:43] <bubbasaures> arshia, You're in  what OS and what tool as of doing this?
[18:43] <bubbasaures> now doing this*
[18:43] <arshia> ubuntu
[18:44] <arshia> i want to format a usb
[18:44] <daftykins> yes, flash drives have partitions too.
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> arshia: yes USB sticks have partitions, this is normal
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> arshia: delete the partition table on the USB and then create new. Be SURE you are messing with the right device
[18:45] <bubbasaures> right device is probably the issue
[18:46] <arshia>  i'm in Disks app , but there is no option for delete the partition
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> arshia: have you told gparted to manipulat the USB device?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> arshia: under the 'Gparted' menu...?
[18:47] <kryptonradon> how do I run a program when I log into an X session?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> arshia: http://kanotix.com/files/fix/manual/images/gparted-1-main-1a-en.png
[18:48] <bubbasaures> ActionParsnip, He is using the disks app is all
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> bubbasaures: same thing
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> kryptonradon: use the startup item ni dash
[18:48] <daftykins> no, they're not even vaguely comparable
[18:48] <bubbasaures> I know but we obviously have to be aware here.
[18:49] <kryptonradon> thanks ActionParsnip , is that in the config editor?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> kryptonradon: just searfch the dash for "startup"
[18:49] <arshia> what is that ?
[18:49] <arshia> this is not ubuntu. is it ?
[18:49] <bubbasaures> bingo
[18:49] <daftykins> arshia: the clue is in the URL - 'gparted...png' that is a screenshot of the other program i recommended.
[18:50] <daftykins> it's a bit easier than 'disks' maybe
[18:50] <arshia> daftykins: What is that OS ???! This is not ubuntu
[18:51] <bubbasaures> arshia, OS=operating system is this ubuntu you're using?
[18:51] <arshia> yes. ubuntu 14.04 i belive.
[18:52] <bubbasaures> arshia, We thought your were, just confirming so I knew the tools you had.
[18:52] <bubbasaures> you have great help carry on.
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> arshia: run:  sudo apt-get install gparted    then use gparted from Dash
[18:52] <daftykins> arshia: it's a picture of the same program running either via a different desktop or on another Linux distribution. it's wearing different clothes but it's the same thing.
[18:53] <arshia> OK, I'll try it
[18:56] <arshia> ActionParsnip: What next ??
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> arshia: is gparted installed?
[18:56] <arshia> Yes
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> arshia: ok, launch it from the Dash
[18:57] <arshia> I did
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> arshia: ok and then use the menu like in the screenshot I gave to point gparted to the USB disk
[18:57] <arshia> Ok ... just a minute
[18:58] <squinty> arshia:  fwiw, hover your mouse over the "-" which is located besides the small cog icon for "partition delete" in Disks   :)
[18:59] <daftykins> ugh don't confuse the user now.
[18:59] <arshia> squinty: Unable ...
[18:59] <squinty> daftykins:  then maybe you should familiarize yourself with Disks first then.
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> arshia: are you now manipulating the USB device?
[19:00] <az_> i have ecryptfs, how can i backup my private key to decrypt it?
[19:00] <arshia> Yes
[19:00] <daftykins> squinty: i can only take that as rude given i suggested disks and gparted.
[19:00] <arshia> ActionParsnip: I want to format it
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> arshia: ok, click Partition -> new partition table
[19:00] <squinty> arshia:  probably mounted.  just use gparted.  my comment was a pointer to future reference no meant as an alternative to the current advice you are receiving
[19:01] <daftykins> and just served to confuse.
[19:01] <squinty> daftykins:  take it anyway you want.  please stop now
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> arshia: oh sorry, Device -> create new partition table
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> arshia: I'm doing this off sc reenshots online and memory
[19:02] <arshia> ActionParsnip: then ???
[19:02] <daftykins> squinty: i'm familiar with disks :) i just can't explain it without looking at it. come now, we're just looking after the best interests of a user asking for assistance, i'm not looking to receive attitude
[19:02] <squinty> daftykins:  you are on ignore.  quite sick of your attitude quite honestly
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> arshia: this will remove the partition table and leave unpartitioned space. You can then right click i the free space and make a partition as you need. I suggest a linux file system like Ext4. It won't nbe very usable in Windows though
[19:02] <daftykins> wat
[19:02] <arshia> ActionParsnip: this is an error :
[19:02] <arshia> A new partition table cannot be created when there are active partitions.  Active partitions are those that are in use, such as a mounted file system, or enabled swap space.
[19:02] <arshia> Use Partition menu options, such as unmount or swapoff, to deactivate all partitions on this device before creating a new partition table.
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> arshia: if you want to use it in Windows, use Windows and format it to NTFS
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> I gotta jet
[19:03] <arshia> No , i want to use it on both windows & Ubuntu
[19:05] <cyber> hi
[19:05] <daftykins> arshia: exFAT or NTFS are still the better choices
[19:05] <arshia> ActionParsnip: I want to use the usb in both
[19:06] <arshia> you mean that i change the type from FAT32 to NTFS ?
[19:06] <daftykins> not FAT32 no, exFAT
[19:07] <arshia> the type of usb is FAT32 . you mean i should change it to
[19:07] <arshia> NTFS or exFAT ??
[19:07] <daftykins> FAT32 is fine if you will never have a file bigger than 4GB
[19:08] <arshia> daftykins: You mean i should change it ?
[19:08] <daftykins> do whatever you want
[19:08] <daftykins> just pick one
[19:09] <arshia> daftykins: What should i do now ???
[19:09] <daftykins> i just told you
[19:09] <daftykins> what's the problem exactly?
[19:10] <bubbasaures> picture is a 1000 words
[19:10] <arshia> daftykins: I said i want to FORMAT a USB device in ubuntu 14
[19:10] <daftykins> arshia: yes i know that, i'm not asking you to start from the beginning - i'm asking what the immediate issue is
[19:11] <daftykins> oy vey
[19:12] <arshia> daftykins: I cannot create a partition table for the USB.
[19:13] <arshia> daftykins: The following lines are error massage :
[19:13] <arshia> A new partition table cannot be created when there are active partitions.  Active partitions are those that are in use, such as a mounted file system, or enabled swap space.
[19:13] <arshia> Use Partition menu options, such as unmount or swapoff, to deactivate all partitions on this device before creating a new partition table.
[19:14] <EriC^^> *cookie cereal*
[19:14] <daftykins> arshia: yeah it means the drive is likely mounted. open the file manager program nautilus and click the eject button beside the flash drive
[19:14] <bubbasaures> mmmm
[19:14] <daftykins> EriC^^: that sounds amazing
[19:15]  * squinty passes EriC^^ some milk 
[19:15] <EriC^^> lol
[19:15] <EriC^^> thank you squinty
[19:15] <daftykins> bubbasaures: may i PM?
[19:15] <arshia> daftykins:  I've unmounted the USB. what now ??
[19:15] <Ayelis> I just got an idea for the lousiest JPG compression scheme ever...
[19:16] <daftykins> arshia: try again in gparted
[19:16] <bubbasaures> !topic | Ayelis
[19:16] <arshia> daftykins: Solved , thanks.
[19:16] <daftykins> no problem
[19:17] <Ayelis> Building off of bubbasaures' original topic of a picture "being 1000 words"...
[19:17] <Ayelis> (not being WORTH 1000 words, but actually being 1000 words...)
[19:17] <arshia> daftykins: What is the best download manager for ubuntu ??
[19:17] <daftykins> arshia: no idea
[19:17] <daftykins> wget from the command line is fine
[19:18] <Ayelis> Am I "ON TOPIC" enough for you now Bubba?
[19:18] <EriC^^> Ayelis: you should hand out calculates with your jokes
[19:18] <EriC^^> *calculators
[19:19] <Ayelis> I'm not sure anyone's built a jpg decompressor for Ti86, Eric.
[19:19] <BlackVenom> Bonjour again
[19:20] <arshia> How to open .xz files ? what software will help me ??
[19:20] <BlackVenom> What does "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory" mean
[19:21] <EriC^^> arshia: xz
[19:21] <mindphuck> when will the "booting in insecure mode" delay get fixed does anyone know?
[19:21] <arshia> EriC^^: What ??/
[19:21] <EriC^^> arshia: the software is called xz, type man xz
[19:21] <theadmin> arshia: The program to open .xz files is called xz.
[19:22] <rww> and the package containing xz is named xz-utils
[19:22] <arshia> Got it
[19:22] <SonikkuAmerica> (In a similar vein the program to open tarballs is called tar)
[19:23] <arshia> theadmin: For download it , can i type sudo apt-get install xz ??
[19:23] <squinty> BlackVenom:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/477002/loadparm-c4864-leaking-memory     fixed it for me
[19:23] <theadmin> arshia: sudo apt-get install xz-utils.
[19:23] <pragmaticenigma> arshia, if the file you are attempting to open ends in *.tar.xz, use the command "tar -xXf file.tar.xz" (replacing the file.tar.xz with the file you are trying to open)
[19:23] <rww> I note that just tar -xf works fine
[19:24] <pragmaticenigma> rww, because it's xz, they may need to specify the compression type
[19:24] <rww> (and -X isn't actually the flag for .xz, it's -J, but it's unnecessary anyway)
[19:24] <rww> pragmaticenigma: nope, GNU tar autodetects
[19:24] <pragmaticenigma> oops
[19:24] <pragmaticenigma> rww, Mine never seems to autodetect for some reason
[19:24] <rww> odd. mine always has.
[19:25]  * rww shrugs
[19:25] <theadmin> pragmaticenigma: You must be on a verrry old system, or maybe the file extension matters?
[19:25] <arshia> theadmin: It's already installed.
[19:25] <mindphuck> when will the "booting in insecure mode" delay get fixed does anyone know?
[19:25] <theadmin> arshia: Well, then use it. You should be able to double-click any xz file and it will open in the Ubuntu's archive manager
[19:25] <pragmaticenigma> I'm running 14.04... don't think that's ancient.. might be the fact that I'm running Mythbuntu and it doesn't install all the packages by default
[19:26] <arshia> theadmin: will ubuntu support all type of compressed files ??
[19:26] <theadmin> arshia: Most should be supported out of the box, except .rar (you need to install unrar for that)
[19:30] <bubbasaures> pragmaticenigma, No one has said anything but derivatives are not supported here. ;)
[19:31] <theadmin> bubbasaures: Mythbuntu is official, no?
[19:31] <theadmin> !mythbuntu
[19:31] <pragmaticenigma> I'm well aware bubbasaures
[19:31] <Ornacia> MACscr?
[19:31] <mindphuck> derivatives for one derivatives for all
[19:31] <bubbasaures> theadmin, I though it was not but if so my bad.
[19:31] <MACscr> Ornacia: yes?
[19:32] <pragmaticenigma> theadmin, Mythbuntu is official, just not supported by this channel
[19:32] <bubbasaures> pragmaticenigma, Note I was trying to actually nicely direct you to help if it was not here. ;)
[19:32] <mindphuck> sure sure
[19:32] <superdingus> What are some good ways to batch file transfer from my android device to my desktop? My phone only really connects in MTP mode, and I'm sure I'm not the only one that considers MTP unusable
[19:32] <bubbasaures> and you know and still have an attitude, nice.
[19:33] <theadmin> superdingus: Well, Airdroid is nice
[19:34] <superdingus> I'll google that. Does airdroid have a Linux install, or is it one of those chrome extensions?
[19:34] <mindphuck> !ubuntustudio
[19:34] <bubbasaures> just a android exstension
[19:35] <theadmin> superdingus: It's a web-based thing, it will work in any browser.
[19:35] <Ornacia> MACscr you pinged me 2 hours ago?
[19:35] <theadmin> (except Internet Explorer, arguably)
[19:35] <mindphuck> !deepin
[19:36] <MACscr> Ornacia: my bad, autocomplete fail
[19:37] <rww> All official flavors of Ubuntu are supported in #ubuntu. That includes Mythbuntu and Ubuntu Studio.
[19:37] <rww> They *also* have their own channels. Either is fine for support.
[19:37] <bubbasaures> rww, thans
[19:37] <bubbasaures> thanks*
[19:37] <superdingus> theadmin: thank you, I will give that a try
[19:37] <mindphuck> brrapppp
[19:38] <rww> It's unofficial derivatives (Mint, etc.) that we draw the line at :)
[19:38] <lolmaus> Hi! I installed a new hard drive, created an ext4 primary partition (0.91 TiB). It immediately has 14.81 GiB used space! What the heck? I tried `cd /media/hdd2 && du -h` and it shows nothing big.
[19:38] <DuCkNeT> having a weird issue when installing process goes by and  sudddenly getting a crash when at screen of preparing to install ubuntu check mark is there for has at least 6.5gb space and connecter to internet i click continue and it crashes after a 3 or 4 minutes
[19:38] <pragmaticenigma> bubbasaures, who has attitude? :-P
[19:38] <Ornacia> S'fine :)
[19:39] <daftykins> lolmaus: can you share a "df -h" ?
[19:39] <superdingus> Another quick question, this pertains to ubuntu gnome. I've noticed that despite having automatic login turned off, my desktop will still automatically log in (to my password protected account) after a brief delay
[19:40] <superdingus> Upon boot, a gray bar will appear to "fill up", like a loading animation, directly underneath my user, and when it fills, it will immediately log in
[19:40] <user12_> Can anyone point me at a guide or page that supports hybrid graphics for 10.04?  similiar to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[19:40] <bubbasaures> superdingus, Have you had a crash you rebooted from?
[19:40] <daftykins> user12_: no, 10.04 is unsupported due to reaching EOL
[19:40] <daftykins> !eol
[19:41] <user12_> thanks for letting me know!!!
[19:41] <user12_> Can anyone point me at a guide or page that supports hybrid graphics for 10.04?
[19:41] <superdingus> bubbasaured: no, this is actually a relatively new installation, and totally clean (by which I mean no other PPA's or outside software)
[19:41] <bubbasaures> user12_, 10.04 is eol
[19:41] <daftykins> user12_: it's unsupported on an unsupported release.
[19:41] <user12_> awesome help channel
[19:41] <mindphuck> *rolls eyes
[19:42] <bubbasaures> superdingus, I had seen this in that circumstance on the first boot is all, no sure really.
[19:42] <DuCkNeT> user12_: maybe time to upgrade
[19:42] <superdingus> bubbasaures: it also appears to be an intentional feature, given the fact that there is a loading sort of bar
[19:43] <mindphuck> the last ubuntu i installed had a install reboot glitch with MSI motherboards, the new one has an insecure boot error with UEFI lol,
[19:43] <pragmaticenigma> insecure boot errors are easily fixed though
[19:44] <lolmaus> daftykins: guys at ##linux told it was filesystem-reserved space. Found this explanation: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/7950/reserved-space-for-root-on-a-filesystem-why
[19:44] <daftykins> lolmaus: at first i thought reserved space, but the default is 5% which wouldn't factor in 15GB on a 1TB volume
[19:44] <daftykins> but yes tune2fs to remove
[19:45] <mindphuck> ya but i got annoyed by it, ill wait until they fix it in another release, test out some other distros
[19:45] <daftykins> mindphuck: you should update to the latest BIOS then reinstall, is this alongside Windows or Linux on its' own?
[19:45] <pseudonymous> I keep running out of diskspace.. I few hours ago I found a 37GB .xsession-errors file -- I removed that and a bunch of other stuff, cleaned up ~70GB and now I'm back to having run out of space (though seemingly without a $HOME/.xsession-errors file... How do I find the problem ?
[19:45] <mindphuck> i dont have a bios i have a UEFI
[19:45] <daftykins> pseudonymous: pastebin a "df -h" ?
[19:45] <daftykins> mindphuck: the term is still accurate for updating the firmware on the motherboard.
[19:46] <daftykins> i'll call it update your UEFI if you really insist :)
[19:46] <mindphuck> its on the latest, i updated it before doing anything in linux, im on a triple boot (w7,deepin,ubuntu studio)
[19:46] <bubbasaures> pseudonymous, read the error files
[19:46] <daftykins> mindphuck: GPT or MBR?
[19:46] <mindphuck> gpt
[19:46] <daftykins> so you installed windows 7 as EFI?
[19:47] <mindphuck> i dont remember seeing as option but i know windows 8 was efi
[19:47] <daftykins> windows 7 boot media has to be manually modified to install EFI, so you'd know
[19:47] <weeirc8089> can I change screen terminal font when a particular application is running?
[19:48] <arshia> theadmin: How to download unrar ??
[19:48] <pseudonymous> daftykins: that only shows me that I'm (again) nearly out of space - I just made some extra emergency cleanups and I not have some 4GB of free space. But I literally slept for two hours and somehow still wrote tens of GB worth of data
[19:48] <mindphuck> ok so whats that mean, i have mbr or gpt
[19:48] <daftykins> pseudonymous: nah, in a pastebin it shows me ;)
[19:49] <pragmaticenigma> weeirc8089, you can change the font, but the application running may not reflect the change until it has been restarted
[19:49] <daftykins> mindphuck: hang on, you replied with an answer when you don't know?
[19:49] <pgx13> hi guys, can I ask a nooby question or is there a specific channel for them? ;P
[19:49] <daftykins> pgx13: ubuntu support questions in here, es
[19:49] <daftykins> *yes
[19:49] <mindphuck> im going off everything i was researching and checking when i was using windows 8 and a triple boot, i didnt know everything changed for windows 7
[19:49] <bubbasaures> pgx13, If ubnutu related you are fine here. ;)
[19:49] <weeirc8089> pragmaticenigma: I meant can I set a terminal font per a console application
[19:49] <pseudonymous> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/hjBquKzC
[19:50] <daftykins> mindphuck: just check so we know for sure
[19:50] <weeirc8089> e.g. when weechat is running I want smaller fonts than usual
[19:50] <poolson> hey
[19:50] <arshia> daftykins: Do you know how to install unrar ??
[19:50] <poolson> how the hell do i stop crap bing FULL SCREEN in ubuntu ?
[19:50] <poolson> being
[19:50] <poolson> i mean seriously !
[19:50] <daftykins> arshia: are you not finding it in the software centre?
[19:50] <mindphuck> where am i looking, gparted?
[19:51] <arshia> no
[19:51] <daftykins> arshia: no you're not finding it, or no you haven't tried?
[19:51] <SonikkuAmerica> poolson: Usually hitting F11 will do the trick...?
[19:51] <arshia> Didn't found it
[19:51] <poolson> dude that makes it worse !
[19:51] <arshia> I had a search , but no result
[19:51] <poolson> then its like right to the very edges
[19:51] <pgx13> Thanks ^^ so: I'm using ubuntu 14.04 lts,  I don't know how i changed the appereance of the shutdown dialog box and I'd like to restore the original one. I spent one hour googleing this, but i couldn't come to a solution yet :/ any ideas?
[19:51] <poolson> arrrghhhh im gonna die
[19:52] <daftykins> pseudonymous: might be handy to run the 'find' command in the terminal and use it to find files bigger than 100MB across the whole / partition maybe.
[19:52] <bubbasaures> pgx13, What did you replace lightdm?
[19:52] <trism> poolson: the window controls are in the top left, or you can drag down from the center of the top panel, assuming this is unity
[19:52] <poolson> maddening
[19:52] <arshia> daftykins: can i use the terminal ?
[19:54] <bubbasaures> pgx13, A screenshot would probably help, as you're not sure the cause.
[19:54] <daftykins> arshia: yes, software installation is pretty simple. first off update package lists with "sudo apt-get update" then you can search for packages with "apt-cache search <thing to search for>" e.g. "apt-cache search unrar" will show the package names. then simply "sudo apt-get install <package>"
[19:54] <Noah> good morning
[19:54] <pgx13> bubbasaures:  I don't know what I did, I was configuring Gnome classic, then when back to Gnome (compiz) I saw that
[19:55] <daftykins> pseudonymous: follow the ubuntu advice entry here but start it with "find /" so it looks in your root partition - http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-large-files-linux/
[19:55] <arshia> daftykins: How to use it for opening .rar file ??
[19:55] <daftykins> arshia: 'man unrar' for information on how to use it. 'q' to quit 'man'.
[19:56] <bubbasaures> pgx13, We just work on details, I think the closest you might have is a screenshot. ;)
[19:56] <pragmaticenigma> poolson, what are you trying to do that is full screen. There are a lot of different applications and interfaces that you might be encountering.
[19:56] <bubbasaures> pgx13, If you used th terminal look in bash
[19:56] <arshia> daftykins: I don't understand what it wants to say .
[19:56] <pgx13> ok, I'll send you one, sorry still new
[19:57] <daftykins> arshia: you seem to be after someone to hold your hand to answer every single step of the process, this is not acceptable to me. you need to at least TRY by looking things up online.
[19:57] <bubbasaures> pgx13, No problem we all want to help. running history in the terminal might help, if related.
[19:58] <arshia> daftykins: Ok , sorry. i'm new to ubuntu.
[19:59] <pgx13> bubbasaures:   https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/RR1YlfhGQAGoEllwr7fj
[19:59] <pgx13> bubbasaures, that's what i display, i'd like to have the original one, that looks like this: http://cdn3.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/00_lead_image_shut_down_screen.png
[20:01] <bubbasaures> pgx13, Thanks, probably we should see what others say, does GDM sound familiar?
[20:02] <SonikkuAmerica> bubbasaures: GDM? GDM is only on Ubuntu GNOME by default
[20:02] <arshia> Does anyone uses the FlareGet Download Manager ?? What should i do to keep it running even after a reboot ?
[20:02] <bubbasaures> SonikkuAmerica, follow the thread, this is phishing.
[20:02] <pgx13> bubbasaur: nope, still new to ubuntu, what do i need it for?
[20:03] <bubbasaures> pgx13, Not that you need it, just phishing your brain for possible details.
[20:04] <shadaloo> hi just intalled gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[20:04] <pgx13> bubbasaures: ahahahah ok tell me how i can help =)
[20:04] <shadaloo> and am still getting mp3 playback errors
[20:04] <shadaloo> any suggestions
[20:04] <pragmaticenigma> arshia, you don't need a download manager on linux
[20:04] <bubbasaures> pgx13, I can't really do more is all.
[20:04] <arshia> pragmaticenigma: why ??
[20:04] <hio> Is there any trick to justifying all the gayness that apt-get is?
[20:05] <daftykins> pragmaticenigma: heh, an OS doesn't stop your internet connection from dropping
[20:05] <shadaloo> hio: are you coming from windows?
[20:05] <bubbasaures> hio, to happy for you.
[20:05] <hio> no I'm coming from opensuse where zypper is a million times better
[20:05] <SonikkuAmerica> !best
[20:05] <shadaloo> hio: then switch back to opensuse
[20:05] <hio> nah i want to use ubuntu because theres moving there but it's just so bad
[20:05] <stefan-_> hey, i have a dell xps 15 running ubuntu 14.10, now when putting the laptop to sleep it often awakes after a few minutes
[20:06] <pragmaticenigma> arshia, download managers are snake oil, the built in tools in all modern browsers do the exact same thing
[20:06] <daftykins> hio: the way it seems to go in life is the first package manager you use seems like the best. no need to bring this rant to us though, either use it or go back.
[20:06] <stefan-_> what can that be?
 hio: then switch back to opensuse  read the manual on yours. ;)
[20:06] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | hio, this isn't really a support question anyway.
[20:06] <pgx13> bubbasaures: do you know how to reset the config file for gnome 3?
[20:06] <shadaloo> and am still getting mp3 playback errors
[20:06] <shadaloo> hi just intalled gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[20:06] <arshia> pragmaticenigma: How should i download google chrome without an download manager ?
[20:06] <daftykins> !repeat | shadaloo
[20:06] <arshia> an __> a
[20:06] <bubbasaures> pgx13, Not sure on that, unity has this and compiz
[20:07] <hio> there is no justification for having different tools for one purpose: pkg management
[20:07] <pragmaticenigma> arshia, like the rest of the internet. you use a web browser and go to the website hosting the file.
[20:07] <daftykins> pragmaticenigma: no they don't, firefox's download manager doesn't resume
[20:08] <daftykins> plus some web servers don't allow resuming downloads
[20:08] <pgx13> bubbasaures, thanks anyway ^^ I'll keep trying
[20:09] <pragmaticenigma> daftykins, firefox can resume downloads
[20:09] <bubbasaures> pgx13, That the best way to go. ;)
[20:09] <shadaloo> no one knew to install ubuntu restricted extras?
[20:09] <shadaloo> really? :s
[20:09] <bubbasaures> sorry no plural
[20:10] <ram_> hi
[20:10] <arshia> pragmaticenigma: You mean there is no need for a download manager , i may not be able to download the whole files. what can i do ?
[20:11] <bubbasaures> hi ram_
[20:11] <arshia> files : files that i want to download.
[20:11] <pragmaticenigma> arshia, You never needed a download manager to begin with. Firefox, Chrome and all the webbrowsers will download files just fine with out any extra software.
[20:12] <daftykins> pragmaticenigma: again, connections go down. plus how do we know this user has a decent reliable broadband? very bold claims here that aren't true 100% of the time
[20:12] <arshia> pragmaticenigma: Will they keep the progress of download even on system reboot ??
[20:12] <pragmaticenigma> arshia, is your connection that unreliable or slow?
[20:13] <bubbasaures> prag·mat·ic/praɡˈmadik/
[20:13] <bubbasaures> adjective
[20:13] <bubbasaures>     dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations.
[20:13] <arshia> pragmaticenigma: no. but the files i want to download may not get finished before 7 o clock
[20:14] <pragmaticenigma> arshia, what is important about 7:00?
[20:14] <arshia> Well , a long story.
[20:15] <arshia> pragmaticenigma: The important thing is : Will the browsers keep the progress of download even on system reboot ?????????
[20:15] <daftykins> perform a test
[20:16] <pip__> I'm dual booting Ubuntu & Win 8.1 on separate HDDs.  W8.1 has its own data partition with some of its applications also installed there.  can I safely access & play video files from my Ubuntu install without royally messing up the W8.1 install?
[20:16] <daftykins> proof is better than someone's word :)
[20:16] <pgx13> hey guys, do you know if there is a gnome channel?
[20:16] <OlgaDK> pip__ yes
[20:16] <pragmaticenigma> arshia, to be honest, we can't support 3rd party applications here... you will need to contact the developer of that product for support.
[20:16] <daftykins> !alis | pgx13
[20:16] <bubbasaures> pip__, Put a shared ntfs in there and you will have two way access.
[20:16] <arshia> got it , thanks ????
[20:17] <arshia> ???? ____> ...
[20:17] <bubbasaures> OlgaDK, really how do you read a ext4 in windows?
[20:17] <pgx13> thaanks =)
[20:17] <pip__> thanks guys.  It kind of is, except that I installed some Windows programs in the partiton to save filling up the actual OS install, which has its own 80Gb partition
[20:17] <OlgaDK> bubbasaures read it as the other way arround.
[20:18] <OlgaDK> reading ntfs from the ubuntu
[20:18] <bubbasaures> OlgaDK, Heh, easily done I and answerd with the wrong nick, doh.
[20:18] <pip__> I'm just concerned about there being applications there, although thereare no system files
[20:18] <bubbasaures> pgx13, you want a shared ntfs
[20:18] <OlgaDK> love you anyway bubbasaures <3
[20:18] <bubbasaures> doh need more coffeee
[20:19] <undecim> There are ext4 drivers for Windows
[20:19] <undecim> but their slow
[20:19] <undecim> they're*
[20:19] <bubbasaures> undecim, right but not a safe way is all.
[20:21] <undecim> bubbasaures, reading is safe
[20:21] <undecim> bubbasaures, I wouldn't trust them for writes
[20:22] <undecim> there's also colinux
[20:22] <blackmamba> 90
[20:22] <pip__> thanks chaps
[20:24] <pragmaticenigma> what is colinux?
[20:25] <undecim> Runs Linux as an App in Windows
[20:25] <undecim> kinda like a VM, but the code runs natively
[20:25] <undecim> It's not being developed anymore though, so I think to use it, you need an old kernel
[20:26] <undecim> A long time ago, I had a dual boot of Archlinux and Windows. Arch had a file server that I didn't want unavailable when I was gaming, so I used colinux and chrooted to my arch install and started the service
[20:27] <undecim> As a consequence, I was able to access my Linux files from Windows using Filezilla
[20:28] <undecim> Last SF commit on colinux was in 2011 :/
[20:29] <undecim> Correction, last update in 2011. There have been recent commits
[20:29] <arshia> What is the best text editor for ubuntu ??
[20:29] <arshia> I tried gvim , but it was not good enough.
[20:29] <undecim> arshia, I use geany
[20:30] <undecim> arshia, What kind of text are you editing?
[20:30] <pbx> arshia, what are you editing? what have you used before? what are your requirements/desires?
[20:30] <arshia> undecim: C++ code
[20:30] <arshia> pbx: C++ code
[20:30] <pbx> arshia, and what does "not good enough" mean?
[20:30] <undecim> geany recognizes C/C++ code structures
[20:30] <arshia> I should allways hit tab many times after each line.
[20:30] <pbx> vim is something of an acquired taste
[20:32] <arshia> undecim: Is geany what i want ???
[20:32] <undecim> arshia, only way to know is to try it yourself.
[20:32] <undecim> arshia, I suspect it will do what you need
[20:33] <arshia> undecim: Ok , lets try it ???
[20:33] <arshia> wait ...
[20:33] <undecim> arshia, It's got a lot of config options, so if something minor annoys you, you can probably change it
[20:33] <arshia> You SUSPECT ???????????
[20:34] <arshia> Oh, nothing
[20:34] <undecim> arshia: Means that I believe the statement is true, but I wouldn't bet money on it
[20:35] <terrasapien> but if you plan to use computers for any length of time, bother to learn emacs and then you may use the best text editor in ubuntu
[20:35] <eggbeater> or nano
[20:35] <arshia> undecim: I got. Let's try it.
[20:39] <shadaloo> hi
[20:39] <eggbeater> hye
[20:39] <shadaloo> using irssi when I alt+<number> I am no longer able to switch between channels
[20:39] <eggbeater> *hey
[20:40] <shadaloo> after updating
[20:40] <shadaloo> ubuntu
[20:40] <daftykins> shadaloo: are you using a terminal program with multiple tabs?
[20:40] <f3lix> Anybody knows how to get drives to automount under /media on Ubuntu Server as they do on Desktop?
[20:40] <Ayelis> Geany is nice, but a lot of people in my building use Sublime. I've switched over, and it's okay, but painful to run from a terminal unless you make a shell script to disown the process.
[20:40] <shadaloo> daftykins: using bash but only 1 tab I know that multiple would switch between tabs
[20:40] <Linux-AstaraOS> finally AstaraOS is up , check out http://AstaraOS.us.to or http://us.to , refresh ure dns
[20:40] <shadaloo> that is not the issue
[20:40] <shadaloo> ughh
[20:40] <shadaloo> advertising other distros
[20:40] <shadaloo> lol
[20:40] <daftykins> shadaloo: bash is a shell, not a terminal?
[20:41] <shadaloo> daftykins: w/e
[20:41] <shadaloo> daftykins: do you have any actual ideas?
[20:41] <daftykins> shadaloo: no it's important, as how else do i know the affected terminal emulator?
[20:41] <daftykins> ok with that attitude you're on your own.
[20:41] <arshia> undecim: Does it support other code types ???
[20:42] <shadaloo> daftykins: you're never actually helpful
[20:42] <trism> shadaloo: it's just that in gnome-terminal I seem to remember having to disable Enable menu access keys in Keyboard Shortcuts to make that work
[20:42] <shadaloo> daftykins: just spam bot commands
[20:42] <Ayelis> There are "other" distros? >_>
[20:42] <shadaloo> daftykins: FYI
[20:42] <daftykins> shadaloo: totally untrue, but don't need your judgement here thanks :)
[20:42] <shadaloo> daftykins: just letting you know
[20:42] <shadaloo> daftykins: you're just annoying
[20:43] <daftykins> well thanks for sharing, please keep any future incorrect comments to yourself :)
[20:43] <undecim> arshia, many\
[20:43] <OriginDarkside> did u research what ur looking for
[20:43] <daftykins> lets get back to support now.
[20:43] <arshia> undecim: Thanks
[20:43] <undecim> arshia, See Document > Set Filetype
[20:44] <arshia> Does any one knows witch app can open .exe files ???
[20:44] <eggbeater> try #fight for other conversation
[20:44] <theadmin> arshia: Wine.
[20:44] <OriginDarkside> Wine
[20:44] <OriginDarkside> well some exe files
[20:45] <weeirc8089> can I change terminal font for one specific terminal window (among many which are open)?
[20:45] <Ayelis> Although now that .NET is opensource... Maybe Wine won't have the monopoly on exes anymore.
[20:46] <shadaloo> trism: that works
[20:46] <shadaloo> trism: yup
[20:46] <theadmin> Ayelis: The .net EXE format is very different from the regular Win32 exe.
[20:48] <nahtnam> Hey!
[20:49] <nahtnam> I installed a font, but I want to uninstall It. I cant find it in the user share folder. Any ideas on where it could be? Here is the info: http://i.imgur.com/jyTn9NN.png
[20:50] <gumonshoe> Hello. When I perform an apt-get upgrade, is there ever a case where a networking could be disrupted (say, as part of a post install script) due to the upgrade of a package? Is there any policy I can count on that is in place to prevent such a thing from happening?
[20:51] <robin> anybody experiences with a zen kernel?
[20:52] <eggbeater> nahtnam: find it in the font viewer in the dash
[20:52] <gr33n7007h> nahtnam, find / -name "Roboto"
[20:52] <eggbeater> gumonshoe: probably not
[20:54] <gr33n7007h> find / -name "*.ttf" | grep Roboto.ttf
[20:54] <nahtnam> eggbeater: Found it in the font-viewer, but there is no unsinstall option
[20:54] <shadaloo> alright
[20:54] <shadaloo> next question
[20:54] <shadaloo> i'd like Super+D to show desktop
[20:54] <eggbeater> nahtnam: search for the font name using nautilus, then delete it when you find it.
[20:55] <shadaloo> but ubuntu is overriding the command because of the 'hold Super + <number>' program launching
[20:55] <moloney> I am having with the grub-install part of installing 14.04.  The system is UEFI.  I am installing from USB and make sure to boot off the USB in UEFI mode so that the installer knows the system is UEFI (this was suggested by the hardware vendor).  I am installing onto a MD RAID1 of two NVMe SSDs.  Any suggestions?  Just getting a more informative error that "grub-install failed" would be great.
[20:55] <eggbeater> shadaloo: go to keyboard settings and set Super-D as the shortcut
[20:55] <shadaloo> eggbeater: you missed what I said
[20:55] <shadaloo> eggbeater: it is but it doesn't work
[20:55] <nahtnam> eggbeater: Doesnt show up. The only instance of roboto is in the downloads folder
[20:55] <shadaloo> because ubuntu is overriding it
[20:56] <eggbeater> shadaloo: it appears as though i did. sorry, slow connection
[20:56] <eggbeater> :P
[20:56] <shadaloo> eggbeater: np mate
[20:56] <nahtnam> gr33n7007h: That doesnt return anything: http://i.imgur.com/MYk6gbI.png
[20:56] <daftykins> shadaloo: could be something went wonky with your user config, create a new user and test
[20:56] <mc_fail> can i download ubuntu cloud ovf tamplate and run in on vmware player?
[20:56] <shadaloo> daftykins: yes
[20:56] <shadaloo> daftykins: when you create it a new user it will work for a while shortly
[20:57] <shadaloo> but then it too will get overriden by OS
[20:57] <gr33n7007h> nahtnam, How did you install it?
[20:57] <mc_fail> for example from here http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/release/
[20:57] <nahtnam> gr33n7007h: I just double clicked it, and pressed install
[20:57] <nahtnam> I g2g unfortunately
[20:57] <shadaloo> I don't want the Super+1 program launcher functionality
[20:57] <nahtnam> Ill be on in 2 hours
[20:57] <nahtnam> hopefully someone else will be on to help me.
[20:57] <mc_fail> does it work on the vmware, of orace vritual machine, or kvm
[21:09] <CtrlAltDelicious> hey everyone
[21:09] <daftykins> wb
[21:14] <pragmaticenigma> arshia, the application "wine" can run many windows based programs, it isn't full featured and programs will often crash if it performs an action that isn't supported
[21:14] <arshia> pragmaticenigma: will it work for viber ??
[21:14] <pragmaticenigma> wow.. have I got serious lag issues
[21:14] <Bundestrojaner> good evening
[21:15] <pragmaticenigma> arshia, I don't know what viber is
[21:15] <arshia> Hmmm.... strange
[21:16] <eggbeater> CtrlAltDelicious: hey
[21:16] <CtrlAltDelicious> Sup man?
[21:16] <pragmaticenigma> arshia, really only one way to find out and that is to try it
[21:16] <arshia> pragmaticenigma: ok.
[21:18] <pgx13> hey guys, is there a gnome expert out there ? ;)
[21:19] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | pgx13
[21:19] <pgx13> ubouttu: ok, thanks =)
[21:20] <arshia> How to get gcc & g++ compiler for ubuntu ?
[21:20] <pgx13> does anyone know how to reset gnome 3 config?  or else how to change the apperaence of the shutdown dialog box?
[21:20] <eggbeater> arshia: it should already be installed
[21:21] <andybrine> evening everyone
[21:21] <daftykins> pgx13: find out where it stores its' data e.g. maybe ~/.config/gnome and rename it, then log out and in
[21:22] <pgx13> daftykins: thanks, I'll try
[21:22] <eggbeater> andybrine: oi mate
[21:22] <andybrine> I have been using google chrome for a long time now. Has anyone else found recently that it have become really unstable
[21:22] <andybrine> hey eggbeater
[21:22] <eggbeater> andybrine: it did for be a long time ago.
[21:23] <eggbeater> *for me
[21:23] <eggbeater> have you tried Opera?
[21:23] <arshia> eggbeater: no. when i try to compile a c++ code from Geany , i see the following error : "/bin/sh: 1: g++: not found "
[21:23] <eggbeater> or the original Chromium?
[21:23] <eggbeater> arshia: I would suggest searching for it in the Software Center
[21:23] <andybrine> Opera is nice and I do like Chromium
[21:23] <eggbeater> *or Centre, wherever you're from :P
[21:24] <eggbeater> andybrine: ditto.
[21:24] <andybrine> eggbeater, I use a lot of google apps and didnt really want to move away from chrome
[21:24] <andybrine> I may have to
[21:25] <andybrine> its good to hear that others are having problems with chrome as well
[21:25] <eggbeater> andybrine: I'm pretty sure most Google apps are available as unity webapps
[21:25] <daftykins> andybrine: considered testing a clean profile also?
[21:25] <NGC3982> Hi guys. I'm trying to run a one-line command that will send <command> to a local computer with SSH. I thought somewhere in the lines of "command > sshpass -p password ssh -luser 192.168.1.X". Shouldn't this work?
[21:25] <daftykins> that's where most browser woes go
[21:26] <daftykins> NGC3982: is it not "ssh user@host command" ?
[21:26] <andybrine> daftykins testing a clean profile? do you mean create a new profile for chrome or clear my chrome settings?
[21:26] <arshia> eggbeater: There was a GNU C compiler witch is already installed (when i searched gcc) , and a GNU Standard C++ Library v3 witch is installed (when  i searched g++). no more result
[21:27] <NGC3982> daftykins: That should not matter, since everything after "sshpass" works out as i want to.
[21:27] <arshia> witch __> whitch
[21:27] <daftykins> andybrine: test with a clean newly created one so you don't have to mess with your existing one
[21:27] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to get invited to a channel?
[21:27] <eggbeater> kokut: know someone who's in it
[21:27] <daftykins> kokut: you're probably just trying to join the wrong channel, which is it?
[21:27] <eggbeater> or step right in
[21:27] <bekks> !register | kokut
[21:28] <eggbeater> arshia: huh. I'm sorry, I'm out of suggestions D:
[21:28] <kokut> Im registered, i want to join #bittorrent
[21:28] <daftykins> kokut: perhaps it's ## or something
[21:28] <arshia> ok
[21:28] <urgodfather> hello, simple question... do i need to update grub after editing /etc/default/grub
[21:28] <andybrine> daftykins ok. I try that out. I prob need another google account alltogether though I would imagine
[21:28] <daftykins> urgodfather: yeah, should say at the top of the file
[21:28] <eggbeater> help /list
[21:29] <eggbeater> oops
[21:29] <urgodfather> daftykins: there was only one line in my particular case
[21:29] <kokut> lol daftykins
[21:29] <bubbasaures> kokut, ##bittorrent
[21:29] <daftykins> urgodfather: one!? that's not right 0o
[21:29] <kokut> daftykins: ty
[21:29] <daftykins> kokut: np :)
[21:30] <arshia> is there any other solutions for my problem ??
[21:31] <eggbeater> andybrine: or try uninstalling and reinstalling Chrome
[21:31] <arshia> is there anyone to solve my problem.
[21:31] <arshia> ???
[21:32] <andybrine> eggbeater I have uninstalled and reinstalled a few time
[21:32] <daftykins> arshia: maybe find a development channel relevant to your language, could be more helpful
[21:33] <mbalmer> arshia, _what_ is your problem?
[21:33] <arshia> daftykins: will codeblocks stable help me ?
[21:33] <andybrine>  I think google apps are becoming much more labour intensive and chrome is taking the load
[21:33] <daftykins> arshia: i don't have a clue what that is.
[21:33] <andybrine> I use google plus on a daily basis as well as hangouts
[21:33] <arshia> mbalmer: I don't have g++ compiler.
[21:34] <gr33n7007h> arshia, sudo apt-get install g++
[21:34] <arshia> gr33n7007h: Thank you.
[21:34] <andybrine> If I ever have lots of tabs open it will crash
[21:34] <andybrine> its a real shame as I love google stuff
[21:34] <daftykins> arshia: that would've been one google away most likely, or "apt-cache search g++" away - like i showed you earlier
[21:37] <gr33n7007h> don't forget to escape the "+" apt-cache search "g\++"
[21:37] <daftykins> ah good call, ty gr33n7007h
[21:38] <gr33n7007h> np :)
[21:38] <Jordan_U> gr33n7007h: '+' isn't a special character to bash in this context.
[21:40] <gr33n7007h> Jordan_U, no but it is to apt-get
[21:41] <Jordan_U> gr33n7007h: Ahh, yes. Thank you :)
[21:41] <gr33n7007h> np :)
[21:41] <Sohron> hello, anyone here with linux-image-3.13.0-44-generic and an mdadm hang at initramfs?
[21:42] <Knightoffaith> Quick question. I have an partitioned sd card (swap first, EXT next, and fat32 last) that I have in a SD to USB converter. Any idea how I can see it? It doesn't automatically show up, and I don't see it in mnt
[21:42] <dzhus> What is the latest version of shotwell available in Ubuntu?
[21:42] <Knightoffaith> I juts need to access the EXT
[21:42] <Knightoffaith> *just
[21:42] <Knightoffaith> The swap and Fat32 should actually be blank
[21:42] <Jordan_U> Knightoffaith: Is it listed in the output of "sudo blkid"?
[21:43] <Knightoffaith> Hold on, let me check
[21:44] <downbeam> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/leonbo/nss/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[21:44] <downbeam> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/leonbo/nss/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[21:44] <downbeam> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:44] <downbeam> any ideas?
[21:44] <daftykins> that's a PPA, remove it
[21:45] <Knightoffaith> Gah, on Ubuntu Studio and switch user is somehow disabled... :(
[21:45] <Knightoffaith> Brb
[21:45] <downbeam> how you do that daftykins
[21:45] <downbeam> how you do that daftykins ?
[21:45] <downbeam> i'm trying to watch netflix on 14.10
[21:46] <cos_x> So when I first log in one of the first things I do is check for updates with Software up to Date.  It then asks me for my password.  10 seconds after logging in.  This is annoying.  How can I make it so that anytime after a login there is a 5 minute grace period where a password doesn't need to be input to do administrative things?
[21:46] <downbeam> daftykins, how do i do that i'm trying to watch netflix on 14.10 and i have been all over the internet looking how to do it
[21:46] <daftykins> downbeam: it should work out of the box with chrome now.
[21:47] <daftykins> you don't need to do anything but use chrome, afaiui
[21:47] <bubbasaures> !ppa-purge | downbeam
[21:48] <downbeam> daftykins, how do i get rid of all my ppa's?
[21:49] <Knightoffaith> Ah, found it!
[21:49] <daftykins> downbeam: bubbasaures' link is plenty
[21:49] <Knightoffaith> It's actually via android, so that may have confused things a bit :S
[21:49] <Knightoffaith> it was in dev
[21:49] <bubbasaures> Knightoffaith, Can we keep the inner voice to ourselves. ;)
[21:50] <downbeam> daftykins, what do i put inplace of downbeam?
[21:50] <Knightoffaith> Bubbasaures Right, but I'm not done ;0
[21:50] <bubbasaures> Knightoffaith, which means?
[21:51] <Knightoffaith> How do I access sda? It's just listed as 'block device', can't just enter folders like usual
[21:51] <Knightoffaith> SDA is an Android thing, I assume
[21:51] <daftykins> downbeam: i have no knowledge of what PPAs you've added to know precisely.
[21:52] <superdingus> Any quick how to advice for setting up an SFTP server? I'm using openssh server, but I honestly don't have a handle on what I'm doing
[21:53] <daftykins> superdingus: what OS are you trying to connect in from?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> cos_x: That is an interesting question. I'm not familiar with any way to accomplish that, but it should be theoretically possible, maybe using some sort of PAM hook.
[21:56] <Knightoffaith> Anyone have an idea how to read from an SDA block edvice (EXT partitioned)?
[21:56] <Knightoffaith> *device
[21:57] <bekks> Knightoffaith: mount it, etc. :)
[21:57] <zerowaitstate> superdingus: is this for users who will only be using SFTP for shared storage, or it is going to be used as a management tool?
[21:59] <Knightoffaith> Thanks bekks. I'm quite new to the linux world, so I'm doing a lot of exploring. Now that I'm thinking about it, does anyone have any good resources I could look at online for a good introduction? I have a decent knowledge of computers, but not much low-level stuff
[22:01] <zerowaitstate> Knightoffaith: check out prep materials for LPI. That gives a decent overview of managment and especially the differences between distros
[22:01] <bekks> !mount | Knightoffaith
[22:01] <squinty> Knightoffaith:  Ubuntu's and Archlinux community docs are for the most part great imho.  going through an Archlinux install a couple of times is good practice.  :)
[22:03] <zerowaitstate> Knightoffaith: I also recommend a book on OS's if the terms are confusing to you. Silbershatz and Tannenbaum are both good, although Linus might disagree
[22:04] <Knightoffaith> I'm not too bad with terms that I've run into so far, but not much working knowledge
[22:05] <zerowaitstate> Knightoffaith: Linux throws a lot at your face right at the start. It's actually are really good learning experience.
[22:05] <zerowaitstate> typo
[22:08] <daftykins> Knightoffaith: there's a good free course for Linux introduction on www.edx.org
[22:08] <Knightoffaith> Thanks folks, will take a look at these resources
[22:13] <Knightoffaith> Well, it appears the filesystem I mounted was not my SD card, but my computer's file system. Anyone have idea on why I can't see my SD Card?
[22:13] <natosh> I can' launch the update-manager anymore and I cant modify sources in Software&Updates please help
[22:13] <daftykins> Knightoffaith: your card reader probably doesn't like Linux, is it an external USB attached thing?
[22:13] <Knightoffaith> Yep
[22:13] <ikonia> natosh: explain "can't"
[22:13] <Knightoffaith> :(
[22:14] <daftykins> Knightoffaith: does your system have USB 2 and 3? try switching socket, if the Linux kernel sees a device and card connected, the output of "dmesg | tail" in a terminal will change
[22:14] <k1l_> natosh: what error?
[22:14] <Knightoffaith> The little green connection light is on though... Find that a bit strange.
[22:14] <Jordan_U> Knightoffaith: Is it listed in the output of "sudo blkid"? (I asked this earlier and never received a response from you)
[22:14] <Knightoffaith> Jordan_U I thought it was, but it turned out to my my system
[22:14] <natosh> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9758432/
[22:14] <Knightoffaith> *be my
[22:15] <natosh> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9758432/
[22:15] <k1l_> natosh: what ubuntu is that?
[22:15] <Jordan_U> Knightoffaith: What SD card reader are you using?
[22:16] <Knightoffaith> daftykins That brings up a very good question. I'm running on a REALLY old machine, and I'm not sure if the port actually accepts the reader (ie only 2.0 ports, but a 3.0 devce).
[22:16] <Knightoffaith> I'm using a MobileLite
[22:16] <daftykins> Knightoffaith: a what? :) i would doubt a card reader is USB 3.0 0o
[22:16] <Knightoffaith> Really?
[22:16] <natosh> k1l_: ubuntu 14.04
[22:17] <Knightoffaith> I'm not really sure myself, I'd have to check, which I will.
[22:17] <daftykins> well, i guess it could be but it would seem a waste. it'd be backwards compatible anyway
[22:17] <LinkDead> Hey guys, quick question.  I am trying to take my windows 7 ISO and burn it onto a usb to reinstall windows on my other laptop.  Is there a nice, easy app to do that with on Ubuntu? I tried unetbootin, but that, well, sucks
[22:17] <k1l_> natosh: did you change something on python? what did you do before that happend?
[22:18] <LinkDead> I know there was a utility I had on Mint that did it nice and simple, but I cant find it on the ubuntu repositories
[22:18] <natosh> k1l_: I did an update and I think I did a big mistae because I added a vivid ppa for a version of a program and I delete it lather in sources.list
[22:18] <bubbasaures> LinkDead, That forked windows usb loader is gone, you ahve any friends running windows use the offical tool.
[22:18] <daftykins> LinkDead: unetbootin requires some kind of cheat to fake the filesystem before running it i think, there's an answer on an ask page online
[22:19] <Super-Nova> hello everyone!
[22:19] <daftykins> LinkDead: as a tip though, you could make an EFI capable boot flash drive of 7 by just having an ISO extracted to a FAT partition. the intended system would need to support EFI though
[22:20] <leonic> immortal-anime.net
[22:20] <Super-Nova> has anyone ever used THINSTATION ?
[22:20] <ikonia> leonic: no spam here please
[22:20] <natosh> k1l_: When i do a sudo apt-get upgrade I have errors like this one "insserv: Service dbus has to be enabled to start service lightdm insserv: exiting now! update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header"
[22:21] <natosh> k1l_: and when I reboot it says "Ubuntu 15.04"....
[22:21] <Ronove> join /hak5
[22:21] <k1l_> natosh: what gives you "lsb_release -d" ?
[22:22] <bubbasaures> Ronove,  /j #channel
[22:22] <leonic> aaa sorry i was trying to open that server  in xchat but the window changed
[22:23] <natosh> k1l_: I think the problem is because I remplaced trusty by vivid or something like that and when I did the update it just messed up everything...
[22:23] <Guest79929> hello could some one tell me  what is the best solution to upgrade my ubuntu 21.10 to last version
[22:23] <natosh> k1l_: Ubuntu Vivid Vervet (development branch)
[22:23] <Guest79929> hello could some one tell me  what is the best solution to upgrade my ubuntu 21.10 to last version ?
[22:23] <k1l_> natosh: looks like you messed with the system too much.
[22:23] <bubbasaures> Guest79929, Are you from the future?
[22:23] <daftykins> Guest79929: 11.10? it'd involve far too many steps, a clean install would make more sense.
[22:23] <Guest79929> i mean 12.10   i am sorry
[22:24] <daftykins> yeah my response still stands
[22:24] <Ben64> Guest79929: easiest would be to install 14.04 fresh
[22:24] <daftykins> backup + clean
[22:24] <k1l_> Guest79929: you need al updates: 12.20 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04
[22:24] <bubbasaures> Guest79929, long slow upgrade days, a fresh install might be in order
[22:24] <Jordan_U> Knightoffaith: Is this the card reader you're using: http://www.kingston.com/us/flash/readers#fcr-hs3 ?
[22:24] <natosh> k1l_: what can I do now? reinstall the system ? any other solution?
[22:25] <Guest79929> ok. thank you .
[22:25] <k1l_> natosh: well, you systems seems to be in a half state to 15.04. but there is no way back to 14.10. fixing that errors would take a lot of time if its fixable anyway. i would consider a reinstall
[22:26] <Zampara> hi
[22:26] <natosh> k1l_: I see my fault thank you mister
[22:27] <vahid> exit
[22:28] <hiker09> can someone describe in words what this line does?
[22:28] <hiker09> double[] sums = new double[instance.numClasses()], newProbs;
[22:28] <hiker09> i don't get the ', newProbs'
[22:29] <k1l_> hiker09: #programlanguage set programlanguage to the language you have there
[22:29] <hiker09> hahaah thought i was in #java...sorry!
[22:30] <Guest79929> could i work with this 12.10 without upgrading ? or not ? i am trying to install programms but i couldn't .
[22:30] <daftykins> Guest79929: no it's unsupported and EOL
[22:30] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | Guest79929
[22:31] <Jordan_U> Guest79929: 12.10 hasn't had security updates for years, so is very insecure. I wouldn't recommend using it at all, especially if it's connected to the internet.
[22:31] <k1l_> Guest79929: your system got security issues a 10 year old learns in school to pass by. so i recommend you upgrade. and stick in future to LTS ubuntu releases, so you can wait for 5 years next times
[22:31] <Hirsch> hi
[22:32] <Hirsch> in order to play webms with ubuntu it seems that i do need to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, which is not anymore into the repositories
[22:32] <Hirsch> why?
[22:32] <Hirsch> what is the alternative?
[22:32] <Knightoffaith> Jordan_U Sorry, went afk for a bit. :S I have a model that's quite a bit older. Looking up G1-3 doesn't come up with anything that looks similar...
[22:33] <Ben64> Hirsch: or install mplayer, mplayer2, mpv, or probably many others
[22:34] <SchrodingersScat> guys, my screensaver says you are doing me a disservice
[22:34] <Jordan_U> Hirsch: What video player are you using?
[22:35] <Hirsch> Jordan_U: web browser, midori
[22:35] <Hirsch> Ben64: i want it to play in the browser ;)
[22:36] <Hirsch> and this requires matroska stuff (which is in gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg)
[22:36] <Knightoffaith> Ah, found it. I have a FCR-MLG3-A1. I'll go get the spect for it
[22:36] <Ben64> well that is a horse of a different color.... i'd recommend chrome/chromium/firefox
[22:36] <Hirsch> Ben64: they dont run on this machine
[22:36] <Ben64> how could they not
[22:37] <dm7freek> does ubuntu get updates/new stuff before debian kinda like fedora/RHEL?
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Hirsch: What happens if you try to play a webm file in totem? It should ask you to install additional packages if needed.
[22:38] <daftykins> dm7freek: debian is ubuntu's upstream
[22:38] <Hirsch> Jordan_U: ... which does not exist anymore in the repositories ;)
[22:38] <dm7freek> daftykins: yes
[22:38] <Ben64> dm7freek: the relationship between debian and ubuntu is not like fedora and rhel
[22:38] <Hirsch> the last one having it was ubuntu 13.10 Jordan_U
[22:38] <dm7freek> Ben64: ok, ty
[22:39] <Jordan_U> Hirsch: What happens if you try to play a .webm file in totem?
[22:39] <mindphuck> i need a little help, i installed Wine to run 1 program, and when i search for the program in linux i cant find it, but when i search in windows 7 its clearly there?
[22:39]  * dm7freek wonders if anyone else experiences Windows-like crashes regularly on Ubuntu 14.04 (mounted home + LDAP).
[22:39] <Hirsch> Jordan_U: let me check and install totem first
[22:39]  * dm7freek is serisouly considering switching to debian or fedora.
[22:40] <Ben64> dm7freek: do whatever you want
[22:40] <dm7freek> Ben64: are regular crashes normal?
[22:40] <Ben64> dm7freek: no, of course not
[22:41] <Knightoffaith> I can't find the info for the model, I think it's too old.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> mindphuck: How are you trying to search for the program in Ubuntu? How are you trying to search for anything installed within Ubuntu from Windows 7?
[22:41] <dm7freek> Ben64: know where i can get more info other than 'system program problem detected' and 'don't disable apport' ?
[22:53] <CtrlAltDelicious> Anyone in here a networking guru?
[22:53] <Hirsch> bye and thanks Jordan_U o/
[22:53] <denbid> having trouble with an update on ubntu 14.04LTS
[23:16] <bubbasaures> oyu can set up no restarts with kernels used to do that
[23:16] <bubbasaures> you*
[23:17] <daftykins> hrmm
[23:17] <rww> you can remove the currently running kernel
[23:17] <daftykins> yeah that's what i was getting at
[23:17] <rww> it works fine unless you do certain things. so i usually reboot after removing
[23:17] <bubbasaures> rww,  I run just one, so if I do it is curtains is all.
[23:18] <bubbasaures> bad habit really
[23:18] <daftykins> nearly time to say goodbye to this server version of lucid - 2.6.32-71-generic-pae
[23:18] <denbid> thanks Daftykins
[23:19] <daftykins> denbid: all happy now? consider running a "sudo apt-get autoremove" too
[23:19] <daftykins> that'll remove the rest of the rubbish left over from those old kernels
[23:19] <denbid> ok thanks again
[23:19] <daftykins> np
[23:20] <bubbasaures> daftykins, I misread the install and remove, just heard remove, my mistake.
[23:20] <daftykins> :)
[23:30] <damccull> "JustMock": "2014.3.1204.3", <- this is in my frameworks->aspnetcore50->dependencies section of my project.json, but I keep getting type or namespace "Telerik" can't be found. Suggestions?
[23:37] <samthewildone> * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (2610:150:4b0f::) port 8001...
[23:37] <samthewildone> ^ what is this about ?
[23:37] <samthewildone> it just hangs ....
[23:38] <pragmaticenigma> might be having trouble connecting via ipv6
[23:38] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: He!
[23:38] <O_OniGiri> Jordan_U: I managed to install Xubuntu via BIOS (not UEFI) and it works :)
[23:38] <BTJustice> Is USB power saving on by default in Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS?  If it is, how can I disable it for only certain devices like my weather station?
[23:38] <daftykins> samthewildone: ask #freenode
[23:39] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: Hi! I have managed to install Xubuntu via Legacy mode
[23:39] <daftykins> woohoo
[23:40] <kingtat> O_OniGiri: Why not uefi
[23:40] <Jordan_U> O_OniGiri: Interesting. I'm glad you got it working.
[23:40] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: I actually really want to know if UEFI would be different... I read that UEFI has a faster boot time
[23:40] <BTJustice> Ubuntu MATE is 'prettier' than Xubuntu... https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[23:40] <O_OniGiri> kingtat: Yesterday I spoke with Jordan_U and daftykins, we couldn't get the install to work via UEFI
[23:40] <BTJustice> And it supports UEFI.
[23:41] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: well it does kind of for Windows, not so sure about Linux
[23:41] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: it doesn't really matter for me :P It's fast enough for me
[23:41] <daftykins> :)
[23:41] <kingtat> O_OniGiri: I found disabling secure boot allows uefi install on newer machines
[23:41] <BTJustice> Is USB power saving on by default in Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS when the screen saver kicks on?  If it is, how can I disable it for only certain devices like my weather station?
[23:41] <O_OniGiri> kingtat: already tried that, we tried like EVERYTHING :P
[23:42] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: was that the only difference then, were we trying unity based ubuntu the other day and just xubuntu now?
[23:42] <O_OniGiri> daftykins: I was trying Xubuntu all the time
[23:43] <kingtat> Uefi requires a jacked key from Microsoft inserted into the kernel. O_OniGiri
[23:43] <jpoole> Trying to build ubuntu trusty unattended and I keep getting blocked by some menu.lst no matter what I try.
[23:43] <daftykins> kingtat: no it does not and hasn't since 2012
[23:43] <jpoole> export UCF_FORCE_CONFFNEW=YES
[23:43] <jpoole> sudo ucf --purge /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:43] <jpoole> export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
[23:43] <jpoole> sudo apt-get update
[23:43] <jpoole> sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --force-yes -fuy dist-upgrade
[23:43] <jpoole> trying all that
[23:43] <bubbasaures> kingtat, Not jacked purchased.
[23:43] <O_OniGiri> kingtat: I don't exactly understand what you mean
[23:44]  * lucaoli 
[23:45] <kingtat> O_OniGiri: Uefi was founded by Microsoft to prevent virus installing at boot level. So an operating system needs a key from Microsoft to use uefi. It's security.
[23:46] <O_OniGiri> kingtat: Is that the reason why I didn't get the install to work?
[23:46] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: no, kingtat is not up to date on ubuntu's UEFI history since ~2012
[23:46] <daftykins> politely, i would ignore.
[23:47] <kingtat> O_OniGiri: that's why some Linux with older kernels don't work on newer machines. The key is in the kernel.
[23:49] <O_OniGiri> kingtat: thanks for your input, but I trust daftykins :P The problem is solved anyways. So it's fine
[23:49] <kingtat> O_OniGiri: the key is sort of like DVD encryption keys. The keys have been cracked.
[23:49] <daftykins> what utter misinformation.
[23:49] <O_OniGiri> daftykins & Jordan_U: I just came back again to thank you guys for all your effort. Might talk to you guys in the future again ;) Wish you the best :)
[23:49] <bubbasaures> yeah
[23:49] <bubbasaures> info easily found
[23:50] <daftykins> O_OniGiri: my pleasure :)
[23:51] <kingtat> http://www.zdnet.com/article/torvalds-strongly-objects-to-windows-8-secure-boot-keys-in-the-linux-kernel/
[23:52] <kingtat> So even Linus objects the use of Microsoft cracked binary keys in the kernel.
[23:52] <bubbasaures> we are educated kingtat that is why we question your answers
[23:53] <dos000> is there an api to initctl ? hopefully rest one ?
[23:53] <kingtat> It's no longer gnu open source
[23:53] <kingtat> It now has closed source binary blob.
[23:53] <daftykins> kingtat: what you say is entirely inaccurate so please drop it
[23:55] <ApplesInArrays> What's to stop me from using SCP to fill up the target machine's HD?
[23:55] <ApplesInArrays> I know your IP, and I just send it to root@IP / ?
[23:56] <daftykins> ApplesInArrays: someone allowing root auth via SSH would be quite foolish
[23:56] <ApplesInArrays> I'm looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/66492/scp-copy-over-ssh-doesnt-work-permission-denied-error-please and I can't figure out where authentication is.
[23:56] <daftykins> and why would you waste time transferring a file? you'd just dd one.
[23:56] <ApplesInArrays> I'm just trying to wrap my head around SCP, sorry.
[23:57] <ApplesInArrays> Let's say I know it's "Anthony@IP". What's to stop me from filling up his HD with goatse?
[23:57] <ApplesInArrays> oh, -P Password
[23:57] <kingtat> ApplesInArrays: a firewall will stop you
[23:57] <ApplesInArrays> sudo scp -P PASSWORD file Anthony@IP:/root
[23:58] <ApplesInArrays> nm. -P is port. -p is preserve modification times
[23:59] <ApplesInArrays> kingtat: then it will also stop me from giving him repot.pdf?