[00:20] <CrystalEmpire> salut
[00:21] <CrystalEmpire> J'ai un probleme , j'ai installer Lubuntu et les bas des fenetre semble cache par la barre de raccourci
[00:21] <wxl> !fr |  CrystalEmpire
[01:11] <MACscr> i removed unity on my trusty desktop box and installed lxde. Now for the life of me, i cant figure out how to get autologin and lxde to work together
[01:12] <MACscr> should i still be using lightdm or should i be switching to something that is more lxde friendly or what?
[02:17] <Chelsea_Jurgens> Hi I am having trouble with bluetooth getting my speaker to work properly
[02:18] <newbooter> Could you describe the speaker problem in more detail?
[02:19] <newbooter> What version of Lubuntu are you running?
[02:19] <Chelsea_Jurgens> i am trying to connect via bluetooth, and using the bluetooth manager it recognizes the device, device added successfully, but failed to connect
[02:20] <Chelsea_Jurgens> 14.04
[02:20] <newbooter> Do you get an error message saying "failed to connect"?
[02:21] <newbooter> Or do you mean that there is no audio going to the speakers when you play something?
[02:22] <Chelsea_Jurgens> when i pull up bluetooth manager, i search for the device, the device shows up, i then make it pair, which is a success
[02:22] <newbooter> Have the speakers worked before when connected to another source via bluetooth?
[02:23] <newbooter> Ok succesfull pairing, then what?
[02:24] <Chelsea_Jurgens> not sure, just bought it. so i successfully pair, and it is still not recognized on input/output for pulse audio
[02:24] <Chelsea_Jurgens> i then do setup in bluetooth manager and it has four options
[02:25] <newbooter> what are they?
[02:25] <Chelsea_Jurgens> Headset service, a2dp sink (send audio), input service and don't connect
[02:25] <Chelsea_Jurgens> headset service is the only one i can get to
[02:26] <Chelsea_Jurgens> add and connect successfully
[02:26] <newbooter> ok
[02:27] <newbooter> So go to sound + video, play something with audacious or mplayer.
[02:27] <newbooter> Where does the audio go? To your normal laptop speakers?
[02:27] <newbooter> Laptop or pc btw?
[02:28] <Chelsea_Jurgens> yes internal laptop speakers by deafult
[02:28] <newbooter> so you hear sound from the laptop speakers?
[02:28] <newbooter> when you play something?
[02:28] <Chelsea_Jurgens> i do have a blue yetti usb speaker with headphones plugged in via usb, not now, but those work fine no problem when plugged in
[02:29] <Chelsea_Jurgens> everything still plays from internal speaker
[02:29] <newbooter> So you have you got the little speaker icon in the bottom right of the panel? Righ click on that and choose volume control settings
[02:29] <Chelsea_Jurgens> yes, which is pulse audio
[02:30] <Chelsea_Jurgens> or pavlu control
[02:32] <newbooter> I am not familiar with pulse audio
[02:33] <Unit193> Lubuntu doesn't generally come with it by default.
[02:33] <Chelsea_Jurgens> oh ok i must have added it after the fact via advice to set up my mic
[02:33] <newbooter> on my 14.10 lubuntu if I right click I get alsamixer
[02:33] <newbooter> Which shows
[02:34] <Chelsea_Jurgens> i have that as well
[02:34] <newbooter> mic, speakers etch
[02:35] <Chelsea_Jurgens> correct
[02:36] <newbooter> So does alsamixer show your headphone as muted?
[02:36] <Chelsea_Jurgens> no
[02:36] <newbooter> Or are they enabled and on vol x
[02:37] <Chelsea_Jurgens> enabled
[02:38] <newbooter> Ok I am not sure ihf your bt speakers should show up
[02:38] <newbooter> separately in alsa
[02:39] <Chelsea_Jurgens> how could i tell
[02:41] <newbooter> Did quick read just now
[02:41] <newbooter> Looks like pulse audio is the way to go
[02:43] <Chelsea_Jurgens> yea thats what i'm trying, but never recognizes
[02:43] <sak> has anyone used vino or remmina on lubuntu 14.04?
[02:44] <newbooter> Also in the playback app you have to set your output device. Have you done that?
[02:44] <Chelsea_Jurgens> i try using pulse audio, but does not recognize it
[02:46] <Unit193> sak: What's the question?
[02:47] <newbooter> So like audacious settings, audio, output plugin, pulse audio output?
[02:49] <Chelsea_Jurgens> yea, does not recognize it
[02:50] <sak> I am working with the QAteam creating a testcase for vino and remmina. These two packages was said to be installed by default on ubuntu. I was guessing ubuntu unity. I did not see them installed on lubuntu 14.04 which is the system I wanted to use for a trial run. I installed vino from synaptic, but did not see any package with that name in the app menu, nor could I run it in the terminal. I understand it is a plugin for remote d
[02:50] <sak> esktop protocol for VNC connections. My question, what remote desktop protocol uses vino as a vnc plugin that I need to install on Lubuntu?
[02:50] <Chelsea_Jurgens> i was able to do it with my blue yetti usb mic and headphones, but not this
[02:52] <drkokandy> have you tried vino-server sak?
[02:52] <drkokandy> I don't think vino is a plugin, I think it's a VNC server
[02:52] <newbooter> Worked via pulse audio output? Or alsa output?
[02:53] <Unit193> sak: Yes, Ubuntu, edubuntu, and vino is also on ubuntu-gnome.
[02:53] <sak> drkokandy, no I have not. I just installed a package named vino
[02:53] <Unit193> !info vino
[02:53] <Unit193> !info remmina
[02:54] <Unit193> And yes, vino is a server.  Try: dpkg -L vino
[02:55] <Chelsea_Jurgens> via pulse audio
[02:56] <drkokandy> sak: on my machine, after installing vino, it auto-starts on the next login
[02:56] <sak> From the info you displayed Unit193, I should be using gnome. Even though I am not using gnome, should I still be able to use the packages?
[02:56] <Unit193> sak: Sure.
[02:57] <Unit193> drkokandy: Fancy that, login or pre-login?
[02:59] <Chelsea_Jurgens> i tested the bluetooth speaker on my idpad and it works fine
[03:00] <sak> Unit193, what does the option "-L" mean
[03:00] <Unit193> sak: Lists files installed with that package, it'll basically show: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/i386/vino/filelist
[03:02] <drkokandy> hmm... I actually can't access it
[03:04] <Unit193> drkokandy: sudo netstat -lnp | grep vino
[03:04] <Unit193> drkokandy: And that also already answered my question, xdg/autostart means on login, not DM.
[03:05] <drkokandy> Nada. sudo netstat -lnp | grep vino returned nothing
[03:05] <Unit193> Likely wanted you to set a password first, perhaps?
[03:06] <Unit193> vino-passwd ?
[03:06] <drkokandy> I did
[03:06]  * Unit193 has no idea really though, never used vino.
[03:06] <Unit193> Ah, I see.  You could "manually" run it, see if it spits anything out.
[03:09] <newbooter> chelsea were you using pulse audio as output device with the usb speakers?
[03:09] <newbooter> or alsa output?
[03:10] <Chelsea_Jurgens> i tried with both
[03:12] <newbooter> Yeah but with the usb yubbi things that worked for you (headphones?)
[03:12] <newbooter> Was that with pulse or alsa?
[03:14] <Chelsea_Jurgens> pulse audio
[03:14] <drkokandy> sak & Unit193: Yeah, didn't autostart on Lubuntu. that was a big lie. But you can run it on Lubuntu with: /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[03:15] <drkokandy> and that works
[03:15] <Chelsea_Jurgens> i plug it in, open pulse audio and for each application (firefox, skype, audacious) i have to go in and make sure the usb mic was selected
[03:15] <Chelsea_Jurgens> when i try it now with the bluetooth mic, it does not even recognize it anywhere
[03:19] <newbooter> Strange
[03:19] <Unit193> drkokandy: Desktop file have OnlyShowIn or NotShowIn set?
[03:21] <newbooter> Seems like it is not registering as an audio device in pulse or in alsa
[03:21] <Chelsea_Jurgens> if i pair it via bluetooth, should it recognize it in lsusb?
[03:22] <Chelsea_Jurgens> or dmesg
[03:22] <drkokandy> where would I find that Unit193 ? :)
[03:23] <Unit193> /etc/xdg/autostart/vino-server.desktop
[03:23] <Chelsea_Jurgens> exit
[03:23] <Chelsea_Jurgens> oops
[03:23] <drkokandy> OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity; Unit193
[03:23] <Unit193> There you go then.
[03:24] <drkokandy> yup
[03:24] <drkokandy> And Terminal=false - that must be why running just "vino-server" didn't work - I thought that was weird
[03:25] <drkokandy> I knew I installed it
[03:27] <Unit193> No, has nothing to do with that.
[03:27] <drkokandy> oh
[03:39] <ianorlin> onlyShowin means only put in the menu in that environment right
[03:40] <Unit193> ianorlin: Generally, but this is a startup item, so it changes to "only start in"
[03:49] <sak> Thanks, Unit193 and drkokandy. Seems I have some tweaking to do. I will get to you with more questions
[03:50] <Unit193> Oh, make sure to ask drkokandy!  He's the nice one!
[03:50] <drkokandy> I'm also the one who doesn't know all the technical things though - Unit193 knows how all the things work
[08:11] <Kaye1> anyone here?
[08:13] <Kaye1> are any of you seeing my message? sorry first time user
[08:39] <Kaye1> hello mr comet
[08:48] <Mr_Comet> hi
[08:48] <Mr_Comet> :)
[09:05] <Kaye1> can anyone help me please
[15:59] <web-man> i have lubuntu lts should I upgrade to latest version?
[16:01] <testdr> web-man: if its working (no newer hardware specs) there is no reason to do so. - You only can break whats already working and the support for lts will last for years
[16:02] <web-man> thanks
[16:02] <testdr> web-man: if you are interested for the state of development, then you should try to install multiple different versions and select the one you want at boot-time
[16:32] <wxl> web-man: the latest version is stable, but will require more maintainence.
[16:32] <wxl> web-man: the one advantage you'll find with newer versions is the latest package versions.
[16:33] <wxl> web-man: lts is always kept up with the latest security changes but that doesn't mean it has the latest package versions.
[16:33] <web-man> thank you
[16:33] <wxl> web-man: for example, you might have the latest openssl package, but you might not have the latest version of gimp.
[16:33] <wxl> (i realize gimp is not part of lubuntu natively)
[16:34] <wxl> you can get the latest version of packages, but it often takes more effort
[16:34] <wxl> so the question is: do you want to spend more time with maintainence or tracking down the latest package versions
[16:35] <wxl> i should also add that the latest version is guaranteed to have the latest version. that doesn't mean that lts won't have it, but that it may.
[16:35] <wxl> hoep that makes sense
[16:36] <web-man> thanks
[16:37] <wxl> yep
[19:25] <Trickster1> hello all
[19:25] <Trickster1> someone know how can we change the order of the program in the task bar of lubuntu 11.04.1 ?
[19:27] <Mr_Cometz> which order?
[19:28] <Mr_Cometz> maybe right click panel items?
[19:29] <Trickster1> you know when you open some program like in windows or the old genome, we have thoses prog open on the task bar and we just click on it to change programme when we want
[19:30] <Trickster1> But the order of those program is the same than the order we open it, i just ask if we can change that order on the task bar
[19:31] <Trickster1> i used lubuntu 14.04.1 and not lubuntu 11.04 sorry i wrote wrong
[19:33] <holstein> im sure you can.. what is the goal?
[19:33] <Trickster1> just it is easier to use
[19:34] <holstein> well, "easier" will be a matter of opinion
[19:34] <Trickster1> sometimes you open aplication in different oder but for ease of use after we can prefer have a program next to an another one
[19:34] <Mr_Cometz> probably want his fav apps easier to click than to browse top to bottom
[19:34] <holstein> easier could be, the same as before, or predictable. but, you are saying, you have, the windows open in a certain order? and you want them how?
[19:35] <Trickster1> hmm maybe my explication is bad because my english :(
[19:35] <holstein> i always let the task bar group similar tasks.. makes it cleaner for me
[19:35] <holstein> Trickster1: i think you are doing fine with english :)
[19:35] <Mr_Cometz> how does one edit menu options/folders
[19:35] <Mr_Cometz> or re-arrange
[19:36] <Trickster1> i will explain by exemple we have firefox, kvirc and openoffice open on lubuntu and we saw them on the task bar menu
[19:36] <Trickster1> how can we move firefox next to openoffice
[19:37] <Trickster1> i just want to move slide it
[19:37] <Trickster1> and i can't don't know why
[19:38] <Trickster1> drag and drop :x
[19:38] <drkokandy> wow, I'm not sure if this is possible without closing a program and reopening it in the order you'd like it to appear
[19:38] <holstein> Mr_Cometz: depending on what i want, i'll just edit with a GUI tool, if there is one
[19:38] <holstein> Mr_Cometz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/196614/how-do-i-edit-the-menu-in-lubuntu for example.. menulibre
[19:39] <Mr_Cometz> i got 20 tabs open :D
[19:39] <Mr_Cometz> lolz
[19:39] <holstein> Trickster1: i find that allowing the task bar to group tasks cleans that up for me.. there are also other docks and panels and task managers that do things differently
[19:40] <holstein> Trickster1: you may find one of them allows you to "drag and drop". the aim of all the lxde tools is always to be light first..
[19:40] <Mr_Cometz> true.
[19:40] <Trickster1> ok thx i will check it :)
[19:40] <Mr_Cometz> :)
[19:40] <Trickster1> i go diner and will check all that thx
[19:40] <Trickster1> i'll back
[19:42] <drkokandy> Y
[19:42] <drkokandy> whoops
[19:50] <Mr_Cometz> hmmm
[20:06] <sak> Unit193, drkokandy, I installed vino. There was no vino-server in the lubuntu repo. When I installed it, I had tp configure it typing this command in the terminal #vino-preferences
[20:08] <holstein> sak: that should allow you to configure the server
[20:08] <drkokandy> that is where you can configure preferences
[20:08] <drkokandy> but the server is not running until you also run /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[20:09] <drkokandy> as packaged, vino auto-starts on GNOME or Unity, but not on LXDE
[20:09] <drkokandy> you can run it manually with that command
[20:10] <drkokandy> or add it to the auto-start list
[20:10] <sak> In the preferences window it had the option "automatically configure upnp router to open and forward ports". I believe this was to allow a remote user to connect to the vnc server without a password
[20:10] <holstein> sak: if you have that disabled, it wont work
[20:10] <holstein> sak: test locally.. make sure the machines can ping each other
[20:11] <holstein> sak: that is, as stated, to set up port forwarding on the router.. nothing to do with "connect without a password"..
[20:11] <sak> I am testing it on my local machine, the same way I test an ssh connection
[20:12] <sak> This is what is in the /etc/xdg/autostart
[20:12] <sak> [Desktop Entry]
[20:12] <sak> Name=Desktop Sharing
[20:12] <sak> Comment=GNOME Desktop Sharing Server
[20:12] <sak> Keywords=vnc;share;remote;
[20:12] <sak> NoDisplay=true
[20:14] <holstein> sak: i woudnt bother with anything to autostart
[20:15] <holstein> sak: i would literally configure the server, start it, test that i can ping the machine with the server from the one with the client, and try testing the connection.. and share errors if they dont connect
[20:15] <holstein> if i want to forward them through my router, i would read about how to implement that safely, and not assume the uPNP will do the job
[20:18] <sak> This is what I did, and the error that I got back
[20:19] <sak> xtightvncviewer x.x.x.x:5901
[20:19] <sak> Connected to RFB server, using protocol version 3.7
[20:19] <sak> Server did not offer supported security type
[20:20] <sak> After running /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[20:20] <sak> , I got this back
[20:20] <sak> ** (vino-server:8514): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-3lXPtqLo8q: Connection refused
[20:20] <sak> (vino-server:8514): EggSMClient-CRITICAL **: egg_sm_client_set_mode: assertion 'global_client == NULL || global_client_mode == EGG_SM_CLIENT_MODE_DISABLED' failed
[20:20] <sak> 17/01/2015 03:13:15 PM WARNING: Width (1366) is not a multiple of 4. VncViewer has problems with that.
[20:20] <sak> 17/01/2015 03:13:17 PM Autoprobing TCP port in (all) network interface
[20:20] <holstein> sak: cool.. so, what security type are you implementing? have you tried disabling it, and testing?
[20:20] <holstein> sak: please stop pasting here..
[20:20] <holstein> !paste | sak
[20:21] <drkokandy> sak - I get a lot returned like that when vino-server correctly starts. Seems like it is working
[20:22] <holstein> i'll set up the server, without authentication, i'll make sure i can ping, and i'll test locally..
[20:31] <sak> Will, I was able to connect the the vino-server. However, I lost connection after the vino server stated: client protocol version 3.7,advertising security type [18], Client x gone
[20:35] <holstein> sak: so, again, what security type are you using? have you tried disabling it? locally?
[20:39] <sak> holstein, all I know is that I am implementing type [18], whatever that means. I don't know where to go to disable that
[20:40] <holstein> sak: sure, so, try implementing *none* and see if that allows you to connect
[20:40] <holstein> doing that locally wont hurt.. if you are behing your routers firewall, anyway
[20:42] <sak> wait, I am using type "TLS" [18]. And, my laptop is connected to a router that provides internet services
[20:43] <holstein> sak: sure, i get that, friend
[20:43] <holstein> sak: what im saying it, while you are *not* forwarding the connection out of the internet, and since its not working for you, and you have a message about auth type, try removing that from the equation
[20:47] <sak> holstein, lets see if I can
[21:25] <teward> wxl: ping
[21:25] <wxl> pong teward
[21:25] <teward> wxl: LXDE upstream tracker not recognized on LP?
[21:25] <teward> (supposedly sourceforge)
[21:25] <wxl> yep
[21:26] <teward> cc: drkokandy
[21:26] <wxl> lp problem
[21:26] <teward> wxl: known issue, or no?
[21:26] <teward> ah
[21:26] <wxl> yeah
[21:26] <wxl> there's a couple reports
[21:26] <wxl> maybe now that colin is moving to lpp full time it will get fixed
[21:26] <teward> so my bug and drkokandy's question are both gonna get dupemarked
[21:26] <wxl> maybe
[21:26] <teward> works for me
[21:26] <wxl> are you helping him, too?
[21:26] <teward> wxl: no... was lurking #launchpad
[21:26] <wxl> ah
[21:26] <teward> he asked for "how to link upstream bug"
[21:27] <teward> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/260846  https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1412052  (bug has the IRC logs)
[21:27] <drkokandy> forgot to ask you about it today wxl - by the time I ran into the issue last night, you were away, so I was directed to #launchpad for help
[21:27] <drkokandy> :)
[21:27] <wxl> np
[21:27] <teward> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/260846  https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1412052  (bug has the IRC logs)
[21:27] <drkokandy> honestly forgot about it until teward responded on there
[21:27] <teward> grr
[21:27] <teward> stupid system
[21:27] <wxl> i personally filed a bug against it that got duped too :)
[21:28] <teward> wxl: i'm not doing testing right now - busy building my computer forensics VM
[21:28] <teward> wxl: well, that's not unusual - it's fine if it's duped, a search for 'sourceforge' has 400  bugs o.o
[21:28] <wxl> oooh
[21:28]  * teward noms his donuts
[21:28] <teward> i made a fail and impulse bought a half dozen donuts :/
[21:29] <wxl> fyi teward was the one who helped me get approved in bug control
[21:31] <drkokandy> This one maybe - https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1154939 ? I can link it
[21:31] <teward> drkokandy: see #launchpad
[21:31] <wxl> i think that's it
[21:32] <wxl> argh
[21:32]  * wxl kicks and screamws
[21:32] <wxl> stupid moin moin!!!
[21:32]  * teward throws wxl a lollipop
[21:34]  * wxl crunches the lollipop angrily
[21:34]  * teward slides a drink over to wxl
[21:36] <Unit193> Now you're all just getting offtopic.
[22:42] <sak> Well, I was unable to get vino to work, but I did learn a lot about it