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| m0nkey_ | Any of you lot got experiencing installing Ubuntu as the sole OS on a MacBook? Want to be done with OSX. Any way to make it boot purely in BIOS mode? | 00:17 |
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| daftykins | i think it has limitations on that front | 00:18 |
| daftykins | i heard talk you need there to be an HFS+ partition regardless | 00:18 |
| daftykins | is it new enough to be running 10.7+ ? | 00:19 |
| m0nkey_ | Yeah | 00:19 |
| m0nkey_ | It's a mid-2012 MBA. Was running OSX10.10, downgraded that crap back to 10.9 | 00:19 |
| daftykins | heh | 00:20 |
| daftykins | can you pick between booting ubuntu media starting up in EFI or legacy mode from just holding option after the chime? i don't think i've tried both modes | 00:21 |
| daftykins | (got an ancient late 2007 white macbook here i got given) | 00:21 |
| m0nkey_ | that works.. rEFInd gives me a better boot loader | 00:21 |
| daftykins | i'm thinking natively with none of this third party tosh :> | 00:22 |
| m0nkey_ | that's what i'd prefer | 00:22 |
| diddledan | m0nkey_: you can bless a legacy boot | 00:22 |
| daftykins | so i don't know 100% but i was under the impression if a disk in a mac is totally blank, you'll just get the EFI crying and displaying that sad mac image (or whatever modern ones do) - so you need at least the OS X recovery partition at the start still perhaps? | 00:23 |
| m0nkey_ | with the latest EFI firmware? already tried blessing my Ubuntu boot partition.. no dice | 00:23 |
| daftykins | when i dualbooted this macbook, all i had to do was resize the OS X HFS+ volume, boot media from the post chime menu then pick install alongside - is it harder on newer models? | 00:24 |
| diddledan | bless --device /dev/disk0s2 --setBoot --legacy | 00:24 |
| m0nkey_ | diddledan, does the disk need to be MBR or GUID? | 00:24 |
| diddledan | I'd personally use efi boot ubuntu tho | 00:25 |
| diddledan | the disk should already have a protective mbr if you've installed in legacy mode | 00:25 |
| daftykins | what does bless do 0o set some kinda secret variable the mac EFI likes? :> | 00:30 |
| diddledan | bless is the utility which sets the firmware's default boot item | 00:30 |
| diddledan | if you call it in a specific way it'll also modify the boot device's filesystem (needs to be hfs+) so that settings survive moving the filesystem to a different system or if the firmware forgets | 00:32 |
| m0nkey_ | this sounds more like a weekend project than a half asleep at 7:30pm project | 00:33 |
| diddledan | :-) | 00:33 |
| daftykins | totally. | 00:34 |
| daftykins | i hope you'll pick LTS as well so that you won't be back here doing it again so soon ;) | 00:35 |
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| diddledan | blender institute want to make a full-length feature: http://gooseberry.blender.org | 00:51 |
| diddledan | they're working on a 15minute pilot atm | 00:51 |
| daftykins | bed for me | 00:52 |
| daftykins | g'night all \o | 00:52 |
| Welshman | Hi to anyone who lives in the UK especially Scotland + Wales. Also I do have a question concerning Ubuntu and free alternative OSs in general. | 04:14 |
| Welshman | Would anyone like to say "Hi" to me so that I can ask my question, please? | 04:16 |
| Welshman | OK. Does anyone think that I should visit another "Ubuntu" or "free alternative OS" chat room instead? | 04:18 |
| Welshman | mjayk: Hi. | 04:19 |
| Welshman | OK. Thanks + bye to all. | 04:20 |
| diddledan | err | 05:38 |
| mapito | jedus christ# | 07:27 |
| mapito | :( | 07:27 |
| mapito | im gonna die arent i? | 07:28 |
| mapito | smoking 20 a day | 07:28 |
| mapito | drinkng too aint helping | 07:28 |
| * diddledan cuddles mapito | 07:29 | |
| * knightwise is off to clean out the basement (Part III of a trilogy I hope) | 08:15 | |
| mapito | hey diddledan | 08:20 |
| mapito | anther day another itre of vodka done | 08:20 |
| mapito | :d | 08:20 |
| diddledan | "the fall" with gillian anderson is awesome | 08:44 |
| diddledan | just finished a binge-watch of season1 | 08:45 |
| mapito | y | 08:51 |
| mapito | seen it idnt enjoy | 08:52 |
| MartijnVdS | I just told my ISP to upgrade me | 08:56 |
| MartijnVdS | to 500/500mbit | 08:56 |
| MartijnVdS | *zooom* *zoooooom* | 08:56 |
| diddledan | MartijnVdS: quit rubbing our noses in your broadband superhighway | 09:11 |
| mapito | m | 09:19 |
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| MartijnVdS | diddledan: nope :) | 09:40 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:54 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 12:12 |
| popey | yo | 12:30 |
| popey | oh. | 12:30 |
| SuperEngineer | doh! | 12:38 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === brian is now known as Guest43367 | ||
| === Guest43367 is now known as ptlis | ||
| diddledan | who remembers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Highway | 16:22 |
| ali1234 | i do | 16:23 |
| ali1234 | it was crap, like every single other thing BT have ever done with the internet | 16:23 |
| diddledan | I never had it personally tho I wished for it at times "double my modem rate? wow!" | 16:26 |
| ali1234 | sure, for 5x the price | 16:28 |
| diddledan | aye | 16:28 |
| * SuperEngineer searches repos for "how to feel warm without spending all your money" downloadable - nope, no joy. Darn! | 16:45 | |
| diddledan | SuperEngineer: is that a heating issue or an "ooh shiny" issue? | 16:46 |
| ali1234 | https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer | 16:47 |
| ali1234 | !info cgminer | 16:47 |
| lubotu3 | cgminer (source: cgminer): multi-threaded multi-pool Bitcoin miner. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.4.2-1 (utopic), package size 427 kB, installed size 1411 kB | 16:47 |
| ali1234 | right now it's about 1% cheaper than using an electric heater :) | 16:51 |
| the_butler | irc.rizon.net | 16:55 |
| SuperEngineer | diddledan, it's an "hmmm, salad or pie for meal tonight" issue - I think you guess the answer ;) | 16:56 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, here's a fun question, threes new tethering detection. I can ping -t 63 from the phone, but I can't ping -t 65 from the laptop. what on earth could they be using to detect that? | 18:42 |
| sebsebseb | hi | 18:47 |
| ali1234 | Azelphur: the metric of each hop is not necessarily 1 | 19:01 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, good point I suppose | 19:11 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, phone works with ping -c 63, 62, 61 though | 19:12 |
| ali1234 | the metric can be anything | 19:13 |
| ali1234 | it could be 256 | 19:13 |
| ali1234 | or it could have nothing to do with the metric | 19:13 |
| ali1234 | it could be the MTU | 19:13 |
| Azelphur | oO, the MTU. Interesting | 19:13 |
| Azelphur | looks like android is 1400 and laptop is 1500 | 19:15 |
| ali1234 | that will be it then | 19:15 |
| * Azelphur gives that a go | 19:15 | |
| Azelphur | ali1234, nope, no luck :< | 19:23 |
| Azelphur | DNS works, but I assume that's because my phone is the DNS server | 19:23 |
| ali1234 | why not just look at the packets? | 19:23 |
| Azelphur | ali1234, does Android have tcpdump? | 19:24 |
| ali1234 | no idea | 19:25 |
| Azelphur | guess I shall research further, I suppose at the very least I could use some packet dumps to confirm the TTLs are correct | 19:25 |
| ali1234 | most likely it's related to ip_conntrack somehow | 19:25 |
| ali1234 | you should research how ping actually works with NAT | 19:26 |
| Azelphur | well it's not just ping, no traffic is getting through for whatever reason | 19:27 |
| Azelphur | I'd think it would be TTL, but apparently it isn't | 19:27 |
| ali1234 | ping is just ICMP | 19:27 |
| Azelphur | yea I know :) | 19:27 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: I thought there were various options and newer androids default was making it easier to detect | 19:29 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: also, see section 4 in http://conferences2.sigcomm.org/imc/2014/papers/p173.pdf | 19:30 |
| penguin42 | which are rather cunning | 19:31 |
| penguin42 | I keep meaning to make some notes on how to set up ssh port forwarding + tethering only to the phone to do the tunneling via ssh on the phone | 19:35 |
| Azelphur | penguin42, that's a good idea, I bet that'd work. | 19:39 |
| Azelphur | maybe even a VPN server on the phone | 19:39 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: Right, the easiest way is ssh from the phone, connectbot can set up a SOCKS proxy or a simple port forward - which is the simplest way; but you'll need to get all the routing right to stop the host actually trying to route normally down the USB | 19:42 |
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