=== ging__ is now known as ging [00:17] Any of you lot got experiencing installing Ubuntu as the sole OS on a MacBook? Want to be done with OSX. Any way to make it boot purely in BIOS mode? [00:18] i think it has limitations on that front [00:18] i heard talk you need there to be an HFS+ partition regardless [00:19] is it new enough to be running 10.7+ ? [00:19] Yeah [00:19] It's a mid-2012 MBA. Was running OSX10.10, downgraded that crap back to 10.9 [00:20] heh [00:21] can you pick between booting ubuntu media starting up in EFI or legacy mode from just holding option after the chime? i don't think i've tried both modes [00:21] (got an ancient late 2007 white macbook here i got given) [00:21] that works.. rEFInd gives me a better boot loader [00:22] i'm thinking natively with none of this third party tosh :> [00:22] that's what i'd prefer [00:22] m0nkey_: you can bless a legacy boot [00:23] so i don't know 100% but i was under the impression if a disk in a mac is totally blank, you'll just get the EFI crying and displaying that sad mac image (or whatever modern ones do) - so you need at least the OS X recovery partition at the start still perhaps? [00:23] with the latest EFI firmware? already tried blessing my Ubuntu boot partition.. no dice [00:24] when i dualbooted this macbook, all i had to do was resize the OS X HFS+ volume, boot media from the post chime menu then pick install alongside - is it harder on newer models? [00:24] bless --device /dev/disk0s2 --setBoot --legacy [00:24] diddledan, does the disk need to be MBR or GUID? [00:25] I'd personally use efi boot ubuntu tho [00:25] the disk should already have a protective mbr if you've installed in legacy mode [00:30] what does bless do 0o set some kinda secret variable the mac EFI likes? :> [00:30] bless is the utility which sets the firmware's default boot item [00:32] if you call it in a specific way it'll also modify the boot device's filesystem (needs to be hfs+) so that settings survive moving the filesystem to a different system or if the firmware forgets [00:33] this sounds more like a weekend project than a half asleep at 7:30pm project [00:33] :-) [00:34] totally. [00:35] i hope you'll pick LTS as well so that you won't be back here doing it again so soon ;) === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [00:51] blender institute want to make a full-length feature: http://gooseberry.blender.org [00:51] they're working on a 15minute pilot atm [00:52] bed for me [00:52] g'night all \o [04:14] Hi to anyone who lives in the UK especially Scotland + Wales. Also I do have a question concerning Ubuntu and free alternative OSs in general. [04:16] Would anyone like to say "Hi" to me so that I can ask my question, please? [04:18] OK. Does anyone think that I should visit another "Ubuntu" or "free alternative OS" chat room instead? [04:19] mjayk: Hi. [04:20] OK. Thanks + bye to all. [05:38] err [07:27] jedus christ# [07:27] :( [07:28] im gonna die arent i? [07:28] smoking 20 a day [07:28] drinkng too aint helping [07:29] * diddledan cuddles mapito [08:15] * knightwise is off to clean out the basement (Part III of a trilogy I hope) [08:20] hey diddledan [08:20] anther day another itre of vodka done [08:20] :d [08:44] "the fall" with gillian anderson is awesome [08:45] just finished a binge-watch of season1 [08:51] y [08:52] seen it idnt enjoy [08:56] I just told my ISP to upgrade me [08:56] to 500/500mbit [08:56] *zooom* *zoooooom* [09:11] MartijnVdS: quit rubbing our noses in your broadband superhighway [09:19] m === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [09:40] diddledan: nope :) === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:54] morning boys and girls. [12:12] hello all [12:30] yo [12:30] oh. [12:38] doh! === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === brian is now known as Guest43367 === Guest43367 is now known as ptlis [16:22] who remembers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Highway [16:23] i do [16:23] it was crap, like every single other thing BT have ever done with the internet [16:26] I never had it personally tho I wished for it at times "double my modem rate? wow!" [16:28] sure, for 5x the price [16:28] aye [16:45] * SuperEngineer searches repos for "how to feel warm without spending all your money" downloadable - nope, no joy. Darn! [16:46] SuperEngineer: is that a heating issue or an "ooh shiny" issue? [16:47] https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer [16:47] !info cgminer [16:47] cgminer (source: cgminer): multi-threaded multi-pool Bitcoin miner. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.4.2-1 (utopic), package size 427 kB, installed size 1411 kB [16:51] right now it's about 1% cheaper than using an electric heater :) [16:55] irc.rizon.net [16:56] diddledan, it's an "hmmm, salad or pie for meal tonight" issue - I think you guess the answer ;) [18:42] ali1234, here's a fun question, threes new tethering detection. I can ping -t 63 from the phone, but I can't ping -t 65 from the laptop. what on earth could they be using to detect that? [18:47] hi [19:01] Azelphur: the metric of each hop is not necessarily 1 [19:11] ali1234, good point I suppose [19:12] ali1234, phone works with ping -c 63, 62, 61 though [19:13] the metric can be anything [19:13] it could be 256 [19:13] or it could have nothing to do with the metric [19:13] it could be the MTU [19:13] oO, the MTU. Interesting [19:15] looks like android is 1400 and laptop is 1500 [19:15] that will be it then [19:15] * Azelphur gives that a go [19:23] ali1234, nope, no luck :< [19:23] DNS works, but I assume that's because my phone is the DNS server [19:23] why not just look at the packets? [19:24] ali1234, does Android have tcpdump? [19:25] no idea [19:25] guess I shall research further, I suppose at the very least I could use some packet dumps to confirm the TTLs are correct [19:25] most likely it's related to ip_conntrack somehow [19:26] you should research how ping actually works with NAT [19:27] well it's not just ping, no traffic is getting through for whatever reason [19:27] I'd think it would be TTL, but apparently it isn't [19:27] ping is just ICMP [19:27] yea I know :) [19:29] Azelphur: I thought there were various options and newer androids default was making it easier to detect [19:30] Azelphur: also, see section 4 in http://conferences2.sigcomm.org/imc/2014/papers/p173.pdf [19:31] which are rather cunning [19:35] I keep meaning to make some notes on how to set up ssh port forwarding + tethering only to the phone to do the tunneling via ssh on the phone [19:39] penguin42, that's a good idea, I bet that'd work. [19:39] maybe even a VPN server on the phone [19:42] Azelphur: Right, the easiest way is ssh from the phone, connectbot can set up a SOCKS proxy or a simple port forward - which is the simplest way; but you'll need to get all the routing right to stop the host actually trying to route normally down the USB