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noahnetworkmanager is not saving passwords00:00
Jordan_Ulinuxmint: What is the output of "lsb_release -c"?00:00
correa2hey people, can i help me to make an shell script for build an personal firefox00:02
lamogoAnyone familiar with Bodhi Linux? Can't seem to find their channel and their site is down. Got a quick question about autostarting script.00:04
Jordan_Ucorrea2: What is your end goal?00:04
compdoc##Bodhi00:05
compdocooops00:05
correa2Jordan_U, I need firefox has the proxy, favorites and some active bars00:05
linuxmintJordan_U: Codename qiana00:05
Jordan_Ulinuxmint: That's not Ubuntu 14.04. This channel only supports Ubuntu, not Mint or any other Ubuntu derivatives.00:06
willbradleyhas anyone else experienced problems alt-tabbing with Sublimetext?00:06
willbradleyi only get it occasionally but it's super annoying00:06
linuxmintJordan_U: Didn't you know that Mint runs on Ubuntu 14.04?00:06
Jordan_U!mint | linuxmint00:07
ubottulinuxmint: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org00:07
linuxmintWell, thanks for the help.00:07
daftykinslinuxmint: i always wondered why you used that nickname in here.00:07
lamogo#bodhi is empty00:07
linuxmintdaftykins: I run another server on Ubuntu, so that might cause confustion, but this sound error is on Mint.00:08
daftykinslinuxmint: ah ok. are you in their channel on their server?00:08
MACscrso i removed unity and installed xfde and unfortunately now its just booting to a dark grey background. I can see my mouse pointer move and i can hit ctrl+alt+delete to see my open processes, but thats about it. Any suggestions?00:08
lamogoare they not on freenode?00:08
linuxmintdaftykins: I'm on a Mint desktop today, but usually I'm sshing into the Ubuntu server for fixing it.00:09
linuxmintok, have to go.00:09
daftykinslamogo: see ubottu's reply just above00:09
correa2!mint00:09
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org00:09
daftykinsyes, or you could've looked one screen up :P00:09
Jordan_UMACscr: Is the grey background before or after you login?00:10
MACscrJordan_U: no login and this is an htpc and i have it set to auto login00:11
Jordan_UMACscr: Did you make XFCE the default session? If so, how?00:11
correa2Jordan_U can u help me ?00:12
MACscryes, i used update-alternatives --config x-session-manager and set it to startlxde00:12
Jordan_Ucorrea2: I don't understand what you mean by "I need firefox has the proxy, favorites and some active bars". Could you please rephrase your question?00:13
MACscrignore him. im more important00:13
MACscrlol, jk00:13
Jordan_UMACscr: I'm not sure that that is the correct method for lightdm. Try disabling auto-login and select XFCE as a session manually at the login screen.00:14
correa2Jordan_U I look for any way to create a script that let my firefox with proxy, favorites, etc. adjusted.00:14
noahnetwork manager is having issues with kwallet00:15
Jordan_Ucorrea2: I'm sorry but I still don't understand what that means :(00:15
Jordan_Ucorrea2: Do you want to have two firefox profiles? One profile would have one set of options, and the other would have a different set?00:16
correa2Jordan_U I am installing several computers, and I'd like a bash script sets the proxy, bookmarks, etc .. I have heard about creating a personlizado package firefox for me00:18
Jordan_Ucorrea2: A personalized package seems like overkill. I would just configure everything once, then copy that machine's ~/.mozilla/firefox/ directory to all of the other machines (assuming that they are all starting off fresh, without any other existing individual preferences that need to be preserved).00:26
Gokhanhi00:32
MACscrJordan_U: hmm, must be lightdm related. I did disable autologin with it and i was able to select lxde and it loaded00:32
xrealWhy should I switch from Debian to Ubuntu for server use? Please summarize the differences from your own point of view. I don't need any GUI or x-server.00:32
Jordan_UMACscr: LXDE or XFCE?00:32
Gokhan/sseerrveerr bukolayy.mcooom Write please login00:32
Gokhan/sseerrveerr bukolayy.mcooom Write please login00:32
Gokhan/sseerrveerr bukolayy.mcooom Write please login00:32
Gokhan/sseerrveerr bukolayy.mcooom Write please login00:32
MACscrlxde00:33
MACscrxreal: more up to date packages from repo00:33
MACscrrepos00:33
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MACscrthink of it more like fedora vs redhat00:34
xrealMACscr: is this good or bad? more "up to date" might be like "more unknown bugs" ?00:34
MACscrthough ubuntu server is much better than fedora as a server imho00:34
MACscrxreal: i stick with LTS versions for servers and its been fine for me over the years00:34
MACscri still use debian for some projects, but mostly only because the particular software is tested against it better than ubuntu00:35
xrealMACscr: which one? sorry for asking details00:35
MACscrwhat are you using the server for?00:35
MACscrxreal: Foreman00:35
xrealMACscr: OpenStreetMap: data import, postgresql etc.00:36
MACscrand another is webvirtmgr00:36
ceberoushello00:42
p0wderAnyone familiar with wireshark?00:44
daftykinsyes00:45
p0wderI installed Wireshark on a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04 lts.  My interface list shows everything but the pseudo-interface.  Anyone have an idea what is going on here?00:45
p0wderI asked the same question in the #wireshark chat but no one is responding00:45
daftykinscan't say i'm familiar with a pseudo interface00:46
p0wderit's the interface that basically sniffs all network traffic in promiscuous mode00:46
daftykinsyou might need to install gksu and run "gksu wireshark" ? if you're just running as your user right now00:47
p0wderis that like running wireshark with the sudo command?00:47
daftykinsyes except you don't use sudo with GUI programs, you use gksu00:48
p0wderdidnt work, hmmm.  I'm beginning to think my nic doesn't support promiscuous mode00:50
AsblarfConnection reset by beer00:52
pixelkatwill packet loss effect ubuntu installation?00:53
pixelkatlike make some things not work properly?00:53
daftykinsoh pixelkat. packet loss in the context of installing an OS makes zero sense00:53
Asblarfpacket loss while you're downloading packages?00:53
pixelkatthat too00:53
daftykinsnot possible due to TCP00:54
pixelkatbut i mean packet loss while downloading ubuntu iso00:54
daftykins!md500:54
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows00:54
Asblarfno00:54
daftykinsyou hash your download to confirm it's good00:54
pixelkatbecause sometimes my ubuntu istalltion is fubard00:54
daftykinsit can be corrupt, doesn't mean anything to do with packet loss :>00:54
pixelkatbut if i nuke HD prior to installing, things usually work fine00:54
pixelkatwith derrik boot and nuke00:54
daftykinsthat doesn't apply00:55
Asblarfpacket loss is not the cause of your issue00:55
daftykinswhether or not a disk has been zero'd before a clean install won't somehow affect the installation, if the media was good or bad00:56
pixelkatwell ive noticed that when i install ubuntu or other linux distro over a current install things break, but if i nuke hd first things work properly00:56
daftykinspixelkat: why don't you state what's happening then we can go from fact rather than theory? :)00:56
daftykinsyou must have kept an existing /home00:56
pixelkatwell this time00:56
pixelkatno00:56
pixelkati told the installer to erase hd00:56
daftykinsthen you must not have formatted completely00:56
pixelkati told ubiquity to erase hd and install ubuntu00:57
pixelkatthen i installed xubuntu via apt-get install xubuntu-desktop00:57
pixelkatand now various things dont work00:57
pixelkatso i was wondering if packet loss could be an issue since im on wifi00:57
daftykinsok so now we get to the truth00:57
daftykinsadding xubuntu-desktop after a unity setup can make things go funny00:58
daftykinswhy not install xubuntu media?00:58
pixelkatah00:58
pixelkathow00:58
daftykinsdownload xubuntu ISOs.00:58
pixelkatis there a multimedia version of xubuntu?00:58
pixelkati need screen recording software00:58
daftykinssoftware is in packages, they can be installed on any version00:59
pixelkative also noticed that, i have better luck with things i install in ubuntu 12.04 as opposed to 14.0400:59
pixelkatbut 14.04 has latest build of certain programs that i use01:00
daftykinscould be more stable older versions, hard to say01:00
pixelkatlike kazam01:00
pixelkatmost likely more stable older versions01:00
pixelkati think i will install 12.04 and be satisfied with stability over latest version01:01
pixelkat12.04 is supported till 17.04 right?01:01
daftykinsyou could just install from 14.04.1 xubuntu media to do it right :>01:01
daftykinscorrect01:01
daftykins!precise01:01
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is a currently-supported !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120401:01
pixelkatwell the other thing about xubuntu is there are too many options01:01
pixelkati like simplicity01:02
Asblarfso why do you want xubuntu?01:02
pixelkatbut there are things about xubuntu that i like better01:02
pixelkati wish i knew how to compile my own distro01:02
daftykinspixelkat: welcome to Linux and life with computers in general01:02
pixelkatto make best of both worlds01:02
daftykinsi think that's going too far :P01:02
Asblarftake the one you have the least and pimp it01:03
daftykinsanyway gotta run, laters01:03
pixelkatlater01:03
Asblarfcu01:03
pixelkatwell theres tons of pimping for ubuntu 12.0401:03
Asblarfgo for it, then01:05
pixelkatskiwiirc is neat01:06
noahmy network manager is nos saving secrets01:08
noahmy network manager is not saving secrets01:08
Asblarfnetwork manager is a piece of junk01:08
Asblarfit should be burnt01:08
mindless_chaoslol01:08
Asblarfjust my opinion01:08
* mindless_chaos has no issues with it01:08
MichaelHabibHi, how can I mount an xfs partition using command line01:09
beanMichaelHabib, easily :) `sudo mount -t xfs /dev/driveyou'remounting /mnt/mountpoint`01:10
mindless_chaosyou may have to run fdisk -l to see what dev it is01:11
mindless_chaosand make sure you make a directory to mount it too01:12
Asblarfor cfdisk ;)01:12
mindless_chaosyes yes01:12
noahim getting a No agents were available for this request. error01:13
MichaelHabibbean: I get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdk,01:13
MichaelHabib       missing codepage or helper program, or other error01:13
MichaelHabib       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try01:13
MichaelHabib       dmesg | tail  or so01:13
Asblarfanyone using irssi here?01:13
MichaelHabibnote that I can mount this same device normally on Puppy !  just one click01:14
mindless_chaosI am not using irssi right now, but I tend to use it usually01:14
Jordan_UMichaelHabib: /dev/sdk is a drive, filesystems are normally stored on partitions like "/dev/sdk1".01:14
Jordan_UMichaelHabib: You can list devices and filesystems by running "sudo blkid".01:14
mindless_chaosright now I am using xchat because I am being lazy01:14
MichaelHabiblolz.. ty guys .. i was missing the  "partition number" !!!01:15
Asblarfmindless_chaos: I suck at IRC, so n00b question: how do I get rid of "joined/quit" messages in my main chat window?01:15
Jordan_UMichaelHabib: You can probably mount this xfs partition with one click via nautilus as well.01:15
MichaelHabibmindless_chaos: i'm using Thunderbird with IRC add-on01:15
MichaelHabibkeep my e-mails, contacts and chat in one location01:15
MichaelHabibty mindless_chaos  Jordan_U bean01:16
_x994des français ?01:16
Asblarf_x994: ouaich gros01:16
Asblarfrepresente01:16
_x994sisi.01:16
Bashing-omAsblarf: /ignore #channel JOINS QUITS .01:17
mindless_chaosnp01:17
_x994euh, tu gères un peu avec ubuntu ou tu débutes ?01:17
_x994j'ai un petit souci.01:17
Asblarf_x994: explique toujours01:17
squinty!fr01:17
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.01:17
mindless_chaosah ha, see I knew it had to do with server01:17
Asblarf_x994: We should talk on #ubuntu-fr / On devrait aller sur #ubuntu-fr01:18
AsblarfBashing-om: thanks01:18
_x994Asblarf je viens de m'y connecter, sorry.01:18
Bashing-omAsblarf: :)01:18
mindless_chaosplah01:21
MichaelHabibcan I use "cp" to copy files to an ftp location ?01:21
mindless_chaosuh, on ftp, or local?01:22
MichaelHabibfrom local to ftp01:22
mindless_chaosbecause you can cp if you are there, but it doesnt work that way on ftp01:22
mindless_chaosif you are trying to put a file from local onto your ftp, then you use the put command01:23
TrivialGravitasDo you take Kubuntu questions here? Not actually KDE related01:24
mindless_chaosif you are trying to move a file from one dir on you ftp to another and you are in console, then you have to download then upload where you want it. get and put01:24
bubbasauresTrivialGravitas, yep01:24
mindless_chaosyes01:24
AsblarfTrivialGravitas: we take everythin, it's open bar01:24
mindless_chaoskubuntu is an alternate of ubuntu01:25
bubbasauresmindless_chaos, try to get used to perafcing with nicks please01:25
TrivialGravitasOh good, kubuntu is dead. I upgraded to 14.04, And it dumped me into grub rescue. Error 'file not found'. I did a fresh install but still getting the same thing01:25
bubbasauresprefacing* doh01:25
mindless_chaosthere is a way, but it's easier to just dl the ul01:26
AsblarfTrivialGravitas: did you upgrade or fresh install?01:26
bubbasauresTrivialGravitas, More than one HD per chance?01:26
TrivialGravitasOne harddrive, but I run multiple partitions01:26
TrivialGravitasAsblarf: Upgrade first, then fresh01:27
bubbasaures!bootinfo | TrivialGravitas this will save a lot of questions, post the url where you paste01:27
ubottuTrivialGravitas this will save a lot of questions, post the url where you paste: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Please run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then !pastebin the RESULTS.txt for us to use to help diagnose your problem.01:27
TrivialGravitask01:27
mindless_chaosbubbasaures, word...01:28
bubbasaures;)01:28
Asblarfubottu: you're such a buzz kill ;)01:28
ubottuAsblarf: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:28
Asblarfubottu: yet...01:29
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NedalHi guys, I just install Compiz and the problem is .. it doesn t work ! no effect nothing is applied ! I don t what I m missing01:30
Nedalinstalled*01:30
bubbasauresNedal, release and desktop?01:30
Asblarfcompiz still exists?01:30
NedalAsblarf .. It does01:31
Nedalbubbasaures Nothing at all01:31
AsblarfNedal: interesting01:31
bubbasauresNedal, Really if you do not understand say so.01:31
pixelkatsubuntu 14.04 uses compiz for visual effects01:32
bubbasauresNedal, Is this an imaginary ubuntu?01:32
Nedalbubbasaures .. well I just installed the application as they said on a tutorial ... but nothing happened01:33
bubbasauresNedal, What ubuntu release is this and what desktop?01:33
AsblarfNedal: what tutorial? On which Ubuntu version?01:33
NedalAsblarf .. Ubuntu LTS 14.0401:34
TrivialGravitasthe script just hangs. It might be stuck on the encrypted partition01:34
bubbasauresNedal, compiz was installed, do you mean the compiz gui?01:34
bubbasauresTrivialGravitas, Yeah, wont work there, I would just install again, there is a swap issue I believe, should be made after the install.01:35
Asblarfhmm01:36
TrivialGravitasother possible issue, when i installed it asked me where to put the bootloader01:36
TrivialGravitasI hit sda1, I'm wondering if I should have hit sda01:36
squintyNedal:  see if compizconfig-settings-manager is installed01:36
Nedalbubbasaures ... I don t understand what you re talking about !01:37
bubbasauresNedal, Did you install the Compiz Config Settings Manager  and not compiz01:37
Nedalsquinty , yes it is01:37
Nedalbubbasaures Yes I did01:37
Nedalall the plugins too01:37
alexgeistdo the daily vagrant box builds at cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/ include guest additions?01:37
bubbasauresNedal, Thanks.01:37
Nedalbubbasaures_ I m don t really  doing well with english ( I m french) and I m not an expert on linux  neither01:39
bubbasauresNedal, Be very careful with that settings manager, you can easily really mess up your desktop, easily fixed, but it may be from a command line and not the desktop.01:40
bubbasauresNedal, No problem, there is a french ubuntu channel if you think that would help, but we understand you.01:41
Nedalbubbasaures_ I ve tried it once and it wasn t really helpful as this one for me01:41
bubbasauresNedal, unity-tweak tool is used more often for modifying the desktop.01:42
javnuthow can I copy over my cron jobs which I set up with gnome-schedule?01:43
Asblarfbubbasaures: I guess Nedal is here because in France it's a** o'clock right now01:43
Nedalso you re advising  unity-tweak tool  instate of compiz ?01:44
bubbasauresNedal, compiz was installed already, hyou just installed a tool to change it. compiz can if you do not know exactly what your doing break the desktop, the unity desktop is a plugin in it. I would start with the unity-weak tool is all.01:45
bubbasauresNedal, It may be what you want can be fully done with the unity-tweak tool01:46
Asblarffun fact: unit-tweak tool is also called CompizConfig Setttings Manager01:47
bubbasauresAsblarf, wrong01:47
Asblarfwrong?01:48
bubbasauresAsblarf, They are not the same tool01:48
bubbasauresin fact ;01:48
bubbasaures;)01:48
Asblarfdamn you're right01:49
AsblarfI got confused, somehow01:49
Asblarfmy bad01:50
Asblarfso, not so fun a fact, then01:50
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bubbasauresAsblarf, No problem, just be careful to help when you know for sure is all in general; we all make mistakes.01:50
bubbasaures;)01:50
Asblarfwell, fun, but not a fact01:50
NytramJust installed Ubuntu in place of mint. Fingers crossed. 8)01:50
Asblarfbubbasaures: will do01:50
alexssonmommy01:50
Nedalso i have to uninstall compiz ( i want to play it safe) and go for unit tweak bubbasures ?01:51
bubbasauresNedal, No the desktop is actually inside compiz as a plugin, has to be there for that desktop. The tweak tool is for modifying the desktop, so is compiz, however compiz is tricky.01:52
alexssonIm so tired01:52
frawgAnyone here installed MAAS on top of vmware and been able to have it power up the virtual machines. Currently mine are staying off and can't get powered (without manual intervention)01:52
bubbasauresNedal, compiz is called a desktop manager unity-tweal would be more of a desktop modifier.01:53
bubbasaurescompiz is working you would have no desktop otherwise Nedal01:53
Nedalbubbasaures ok ! so i forget about compiz for modifying and not uninstall it and go for unit tweak01:54
Asblarffrawg: Nope.01:55
frawgAsblarf: Okies. Will keep digging01:55
Asblarffrawg: sorry about that01:56
frawgall good01:56
bubbasauresNedal, My concern here is since your new, messing with compiz is well not so safe till you understand it, but it is your install, the tweak tool wont break the desktop in general.01:56
MoonlightningTrying to troubleshoot this GRUB installation; a couple people have told me to run an EFI shell. Is there a reputable source I can get one from? My machine doesn't seem to have a built-in one, and I'm wary of running the one the Arch wiki links to, especially since it's at such a low level.01:56
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Nedalbubbasaures, I trust your knowledge you ve been helpful more than once for me .. So since i m a beginner  whatever you told me to do , I will do it01:57
bubbasauresMoonlightning, it is basically msdos or gpt, partition table and associated partitioning, take your choice01:57
bubbasauresNedal, Sorta like exercising you work up to the marathon.01:58
squintyMoonlightning:  might want to check the following to see if anything applicable to your situation  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting01:59
Moonlightningbubbasaures: GPT. The partition table seems fine; the machine will boot just fine…but only if I plug in the flash drive I installed Ubuntu from and tell it to load the GRUB configuration from the internal HDD. If I try to boot directly from the HDD, the machine's firmware says it can't find a bootable device.01:59
Chelsea_JurgensHi I am having trouble with a usb speaker. I have a usb microphone which works fine, but i have a usb speaker that does not. when i run lsusb it does not even recognize the device. Any suggestions?02:00
bubbasauresMoonlightning, I'm not your best help in efi gpt is all, I know the difference and msdos really well.02:00
alexgeistfor future reference, it appears they do! good news.02:00
Asblarfbubbasaures: can't parse your last sentence02:01
squintyChelsea_Jurgens:  unplug the device and then plug it back in.  in a terminal type dmesg  and look at the end of the output to see if your device is recognized02:01
bubbasauresAsblarf, was it to you?02:01
Asblarf?02:02
Asblarfbubbasaures: no, I was just puzzled02:02
bubbasauresAsblarf, Not my responsibility if the one I address needs a confirmation than I will, this is not a chat channel is all. ;)02:02
ki7mtsquinty, assuming the usb speak actually has a sound card device in it, most are just amplified speakers02:03
Moonlightningbubbasaures: also having a bit of trouble parsing it.02:03
Moonlightningbubbasaures: You're not the best one to ask about EFI with GPT, and…?02:03
bubbasauresMoonlightning, yes02:03
MoonlightningWell02:03
bubbasauresnot the best wording sorry02:04
Asblarfbubbasaures: exactly my point02:04
Asblarf;)02:04
Chelsea_Jurgenssquinty: I'm not sure, would it be the last thing? I can't tell02:04
bubbasauresI will have my doctoral committee check my work thank you02:04
ki7mtChelsea_Jurgens, Whats' the make / model of the usb sepaker set and what are you plugging it in too, desktop / laptop / other?02:05
squintyChelsea_Jurgens:  if it doesn't show up there, afaik, then lsusb is not going to recognize (see ki7mt comment to me above)02:06
Chelsea_Jurgenski7mt: sylvania SP258, plugging into my monitor which is plugged into my desktop02:06
AsblarfChelsea_Jurgens: try plugging it somewhere on your machine directly.02:07
squintyki7mt: maybe send your comments to the person asking.  dmesg was a valid way of identifying whether the device is actally a usb device or just powered from usb.  thanks02:08
Chelsea_Jurgensit's plugged into my laptop usb now. bluetooth does not work with it either02:08
Moonlightningsquinty: the liveusb booted in EFI mode (I got a GRUB screen similar to the example), and as far as I can tell the HDD installation is also EFI. I wiped the partition map before installing, and there's an EFI system partition.02:08
AsblarfChelsea_Jurgens: now it's plugged to your laptop can you see anything in dmesg?02:08
Asblarfunless your laptop is not running linux...02:09
ytutyanyone know why there is a fastboot file in root02:09
Moonlightningsquinty: Secure Boot is enabled, but disabling it doesn't seem to make a difference: either way, I can boot indirectly from the USB, but not directly from the HDD.02:09
ytutyim using ubuntu 14.04 OpenVZ image02:09
ki7mtChelsea_Jurgens, Just for Info, the USB plug provides the power to the device, the Audio channel appears to be Via Bluetooth on that particular speaker set.02:09
Chelsea_Jurgenski7mt, so the audio channel can only come via bluetooth?02:10
ki7mtChelsea_Jurgens, Unless there is some new fango technology that allows Audio of USB Power, yes, it's Bluetooth Audio.02:11
bubbasauresAsblarf, Honestly the moment you hit the channel I put you in ignore. Than, I saw you were trying to help people and knew very little and although my answer was not understandable to the both of you any one here with an inkling of the subject would understand, this is not an english class.02:12
ki7mts/Audio Over USB Power/g02:12
Chelsea_Jurgenski7mt: so i would need an audio in jack02:13
Asblarfbubbasaures: mate, if you want to help people you need to make understandable sentences. Most of your sentences are OK, don't get me wrong, it's just that one that didn't make sense. No need to get upset.02:13
ki7mtChelsea_Jurgens, If it has an audio jack on the Speaker, that would work, connect headphone jack to the Audio in jack should work. I was just going to read the manual to see what it has.02:14
ytutyso anyone have any idea what the fastboot file is doing in root02:15
ki7mtChelsea_Jurgens, It says it has a 3.5mm Aux-In, that should work with your Laptop speaker out.02:15
ki7mtBut, Bluetooth should also work.02:16
Chelsea_Jurgenski7mt: thanks. now i need to see if i can get it to pair via bluetooth to avoid the audio jack02:16
ki7mtChelsea_Jurgens, That's what I think needs doign at the moment. I know the Bluze-Alsa package is part of the default install on 14.04.02:17
javnuthow can I copy over my cron jobs which I set up with gnome-schedule for when I reinstall?02:18
ki7mtjavnut each suer has their own crontan, they are stored in /var/spool/cron/crontabs .. you could cp them or whatever you want from there.02:21
ki7mts/crontab/crontan/g02:21
ki7mtYou could  also pipe it to a file: crontab -l > my-cool-crontab.txt o something. then back it up02:23
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javnuthow can I copy over my cron jobs which I set up with gnome-schedule?02:29
drkokandyDoes anyone know about adding an upstream bug to a bug in Launchpad? I'm trying to add an upstream bug I created to a bug report, and Launchpad does not recognize the URL. The bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/134740202:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1347402 in lxsession (Ubuntu) "lxsession-default webbrowser crashes session" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:30
bubbasauresjavnut, You should just get used you making them that is easy work.02:30
drkokandyAnd the upstream bug is https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/bugs/726/02:30
javnutbubbasaures: no02:30
javnutanyway, I found the directory02:30
ki7mtjavnut, It's supposed to be saved in the same place02:30
javnutnvm, I'm just used to having all the configuration in the home folder02:31
javnutit's in /var/spool/cron/crontabs02:32
javnutwhat about the desktop launchers (for gnome flashback) anyone know where those are?02:33
bubbasauresdrkokandy, Bot sees the link I can as well, what was the issue?02:33
ki7mtdrkokandy, Im not sure what you asking herel you want to update the bug, add to the bugs or something else ?02:34
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ki7mtjavnut, .desktop files, for non user created stuff, goes in /usr/share/applications/*02:35
drkokandyLaunchpad has the ability to pair a bug to an upstream bug "+ also affects project" - but that linking isn't working for the upstream bug in this case for some reason bubbasaures and ki7mt02:35
javnutki7mt: I'm using gnome02:36
javnutnot unity02:36
ki7mtdrkokandy, Ok, so it's not linking the bug. That's different. Probably best to ask / discuss in #launchpad for that one.02:36
drkokandydidn't know there was such a channel. Thanks ki7mt02:36
ki7mtjavnut, it uses the same place02:36
bubbasauresdrkokandy, I'm not familiar with the link your after, sorry about that.02:36
drkokandythanks bubbasaures02:37
javnutki7mt: nope, none of my launchers are there02:37
ki7mtjavnut, Your wont be there, those are system install applicaiton launchers, yours are most likely in ~/.local/share/applications or somethign similar02:38
javnutki7mt: only one of them is02:39
ki7mtjavnut, check ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 or ~/.gnome~private02:39
javnutki7mt: yeah, I remember it being in there02:40
ki7mtIm not going to log out to find them, but there ins a .dot file / folder somewhere in $HOME02:40
PenguinAnonDoes anyone here have a favorite terminal multiplexer? I was going to try out tmux, but I'm interested in comparing a couple options.02:41
ki7mtYou could seach $HOME for *.desktop  as that's what they should be labeled as.02:41
javnut.config/gnome-panel/launchers02:41
javnutI think last time I tried copying that though, it didn't work02:42
javnutI'm going to try it on a VM and see if it works out02:42
ki7mtPenguinAnon, I like guake especially on smaller laptop screens and such.02:42
ki7mtjavnut, Could be in the Gtk folders also.02:44
javnutwhere are those?02:44
LTS14N00bHi All, even though my scanner is listed on the SANE support page, it isn't recognised. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can utilise my HP SCanJet 5370c with 14.04?02:44
javnut/usr/share/themes?02:44
bubbasauresLTS14N00b, Have you opened printers to see if a driver shows02:45
LTS14N00bbubbasaures: My scanner doesn't show up in the printers list.02:46
bubbasauresLTS14N00b, This wizard is rather nice and has a debug built in, http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html02:46
ki7mtjavnut, ./config/Gtk-3.0 .. Gtk-2.0  ,, but I dont think Gnome3 uses desktop shortcuts in this manner anyway02:46
LTS14N00bbubbasaures: I'll give it a go.. Thanks.02:47
ki7mtjavnut, https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en02:47
ki7mtwhich uses : ~/.local/share/applications or /usr/share/applications  as stated earlier.02:47
LTS14N00bbubbasaures: "Sorry, HP Scanjet single function scanners are not supported by HPLIP. For possible Linux support, please visit: http://www.sane-project.org/"02:47
bubbasauresLTS14N00b, I missed the scanner part have you tried simple scan?02:50
rapeclowne102:50
bubbasaures!ops | rapeclown nick02:51
ubotturapeclown nick: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang02:51
ki7mtLTS14N00b, It sasy it's supported: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html  .. and .. http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-avision.5.html02:51
IdleOnerapeclown: change your nick to something less triggering02:51
rapeclownholy shit02:51
rapeclownreally?02:51
IdleOneyes and I suggest you read the channel guidelines linked in the topic02:52
IdleOne!guidelines02:52
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines02:52
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lil-bitchyes master02:52
IdleOneproblem solved02:52
LTS14N00bbubbasaures: That's OK. These days you can't buy a single function device anymore, or it's hard to find... Yes I have tried Simplescan and Xsane - Neither recognise the scanner02:53
bubbasauresnicks like that are huge red flag02:53
fizzleq02:54
mindless_chaos:/02:54
LTS14N00bki7mt: Yes, I agree it does state that it is suported, but it doesn't work, which is why I thought there may be another reason. I have unplugged the scanner form both the power and USB and rebooted, but it still isn't recognised.02:54
ki7rwafter upgrading to webmin 1.730 i get this when trying to delete postfix mail: Failed to open temp file /var/mail/user.del : Permission denied02:54
bubbasauresLTS14N00b, Xsane is funky, I had to do a wipe and load of the config I believe to get it work on an old HP, I wish I could remember exactly.02:54
PenguinAnonki7mt: Thanks, I'd forgotten about Guake. I'll give that a shot as well.02:55
ki7mtLTS14N00b, Best I can off is starting here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo  .. and .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/sane.d%20tutorial02:57
fgordonHello2all02:57
ki7mtHello02:57
fgordonHmmm I hav a strange problem I cannot stop samba? and don02:57
ki7mtPenguinAnon, Yeah, I like the F12 hide / unhide .. work pretty well.02:57
LTS14N00bki7mt: Will do, thanks for the links..02:58
fgordon't know where it's started...02:58
fgordonI even killed all S*samba from te rc*.d02:58
fgordonbut it still starts on bootup.....?02:58
undecimfgordon, maybe pstree can give a clue?02:58
undecimfgordon, you could always uninstall it02:59
fgordonhehe yes but I want to use it   but just not at the moment02:59
fgordonand I just think it02:59
fgordons strange03:00
fgordonone moment will just reboot to use pstree03:00
undecimfgordon, Your pinky is too long XD03:00
ki7mtWell if you go into /etc/rc.d and remove the links, that surly would prevent it from starting. Not the right way, but should work03:01
fgordonyes thought so too03:01
fgordonbut it still is running after booting03:01
undecimfgordon, Does another service depend on it?03:01
fgordonI also checked rc.local and crontab of course03:01
fgordon:D03:01
fgordonHmmm don't know which service uses samba....?03:02
fgordonI don't have something special installed03:02
ki7mtI dont know but : sudo update-rc.d -f smbd remove :-)03:02
mopao-mokonzihello from central africa !03:02
undecimI can't name one off the top of my head03:02
X123hello :)03:02
mopao-mokonziwaooh this thing does work !03:02
mopao-mokonziJesus !03:02
ki7mtIndeed it does03:02
undecimI'd say so03:02
mopao-mokonziWhere ar you guys based ?03:02
ki7mtBased?03:02
mopao-mokonziyeah   where do u live ?03:03
mopao-mokonzii am in Congo03:03
ki7mtThis channel is for Ubuntu Support, may want to go into #ubuntu-offtopic03:03
undecimmopao-mokonzi, I'm in Alabama, USA. But maybe we should got to #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter?03:03
mopao-mokonzioooh right this one is just for ubuntu support...apologies..i am new in here !03:04
mopao-mokonzii shall let u get on with your business03:04
mopao-mokonzibut thanks for helping  !03:04
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taburlo92what is03:08
taburlo92the last release of ubuntu?03:08
lecoderthe term "release" is offensive and it triggers me, please change it03:09
PenguinAnontaburlo92: The most recent release is 14.10. The most recent long term support (LTS) release is 14.0403:11
mopao-mokonzihey guys one question as i am new in here03:12
bubbasaureslecoder, Bad fishing history eh.03:12
NikolaiToryzinlecoder: Check your privilege, offensive is one of my trigger words.03:13
mopao-mokonziis the irc chat program we using now using some sort of encryption ?03:13
mopao-mokonzii know i could be checking using tcpdump03:13
ki7mt_mopao-mokonzi, No03:13
mopao-mokonzibut i am sure some of u know03:13
NikolaiToryzinIt uses encryption, but with the server if you choose03:13
NikolaiToryzinIt's just ssl03:13
LabanHello!03:13
NikolaiToryzinOptional of course03:13
LabanIs there an easy way to change a whole bunch of filenames that are currently hard linked, into their own copy?03:14
mopao-mokonzialright so it all goes through ssl then03:14
LabanI.e breaking the link.03:14
NikolaiToryzinmopao-mokonzi: optionally through ssl.03:14
bubbasauresmopao-mokonzi, You can tor the channel if that floats yer boat03:14
NikolaiToryzinIn a lot of defaults and ways people connect they don't even use ssl03:14
ki7mt_If your asking if the this is a secure communication channel ( encrypted send/rcv) then no no it's not.03:15
mopao-mokonzialright03:16
mopao-mokonzican any of u point me to some url where i can learn how to set up ssl or alike on this chat...thanks in advance03:17
undecimLaban, I suppose if you found both links 'cp link1 link2' would "split" a single link?03:17
undecimI'll test that03:17
PenguinAnonmopao-mokonzi: What IRC client are you using?03:17
ki7mt_https://freenode.net/certfp/certfp-xchat.shtml03:17
PenguinAnonYou should check the documentation for that client for instructions on how to configure SSL.03:17
bubbasauresmopao-mokonzi, What IRC client are you on?03:17
ki7mt_That example is Xchat, but the basics are the same. WOuld be a fare bit different for CLI clients like irssi and such.03:18
undecimLaban, well, you could do 'rm link2; cp link1 link2'03:18
undecimAnyone know how to enumerate links of file?03:18
mopao-mokonzii am using xchat-gnome guys03:19
ki7mt_enumerate links ?03:19
undecimlike: ln file file_link03:19
undecimgiven file, how can I get the location of file_link?03:19
PenguinAnonmopao-mokonzi: ki7mt_ has posted the link you need, then.03:19
PenguinAnonhttps://freenode.net/certfp/certfp-xchat.shtml03:19
bubbasauresmopao-mokonzi, ssl is in the edit fro the opening gui, the preferences has other stuff.03:20
undecimOr is enumerate the wrong word here?03:20
fgordonHmmmm tested some stuff...... though still the same.....03:20
bubbasauresfrom*03:20
fgordonpstree shows   root-smbd----smbd03:20
fgordonroot-nmbd03:20
fgordonroot=init :D sorry03:20
ki7mt_undecim, Depends on what your wanting,  are you wanting to link one file to another or a list of files or lines within a file etc?03:21
undecimki7mt_, Actually, I don't think I need to do that after all03:21
ki7mt_:-) ok03:21
mopao-mokonzicheers guys ...merci beaucoup !03:21
mopao-mokonzilol03:21
undecimki7mt_, I'm considering solutions to Laban's question03:21
fgordonreally strange is even as root I cannot kill -9 the smbd processes they seem to get restarted     is there any startup-thing in ubuntu different from other linux?03:22
LabanFound a quicker solution, not pretty but did the trick. Just cp -rp folder /tmp and then copy it back.03:22
ki7mt_undecim, well .. loop command and change the links.03:22
Laban(different fs)03:22
LabanIt didn't answer the question per se, but solved the issue at hand.03:22
undecimSounds good03:23
undecimYou could have, for each file, done:  cp file file.bak; rm file; cp file.bak file03:23
undecim(if you have to do it on larger file sets)03:24
LabanThanks undecim03:27
eredwoodhello every one i have a ubuntu server, after I set up ufw and enable, now my server in Network will not open at all when I click on it.03:31
mopao-mokonziaaah you might have locked yourself out03:31
mopao-mokonziis there a chance you could access the machine physically03:32
mopao-mokonzito change the rules ?03:32
ki7mt_that is within the realm of possibility :-)03:32
eredwoodyes I ssh to the server with know problem03:32
eredwoodi just ssh to the server with know issues03:34
eredwoodif I disable ufw I can can get my samba file folder with now issue03:35
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forceful-funtimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xSNiPx791A03:36
forceful-funtimeyou guys are pathetic03:36
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bubbasauresthat is the nicest comment we have gotten, thanks03:37
undecimI feel accomplished03:37
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forceful-funtimetrigger warning03:38
forceful-funtimehttp://motherless.com/C4C0B2E03:38
forceful-funtimehttp://motherless.com/C4C0B2E03:38
forceful-funtimehttp://motherless.com/C4C0B2E03:38
forceful-funtimehttp://motherless.com/C4C0B2E03:38
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forceful-funtimehttp://motherless.com/C4C0B2E03:38
bubbasaures!ops03:38
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang03:38
* rww looks up03:39
MoonlightningNot sure if SJW or just troll.03:39
rww?03:40
eredwoodIn ufw I have port 139 and 445 open so that I can get to my file but , when I click on my same server in Network it will not open now03:42
eredwood139 and 445 for samba03:42
eredwoodis the the wrong room that i have connected too?03:46
fgordonuh wow I found the cause of my error :O :O seems my external usb where the OS was running from got too little power causing strange things :O :O03:48
fgordonat least when writing sometimes with heavy load   reading was ok03:49
ki7mt_eredwood, Im not a ufw expert, but have you popled a hole in the fw for Samba, somehting like:  sudo ufw allow Samba03:49
ki7mt_s/poked/popled/g03:49
fgordoninterfaces in smb.conf is ok too?03:50
fgordonmaybe also restricted03:50
NoobsFlyRNPI'm trying to add a new user using sudo adduser xxxxxxxx but I keep getting an error when I retype the new password:03:51
NoobsFlyRNPpasswd: Permission denied03:51
NoobsFlyRNPpasswd: password unchanged03:51
ki7mt_sudo usermod -a -G sudo $USER03:52
eredwoodKi7mt let me try that03:52
ki7mt_You need to log out and back in for the group change to take affect.03:52
croberts++03:52
bilegtI'm on X220 with i5 and 4gb. After working for a while and ram usage is around 70% (I have no swap partition), it sometimes becomes very slow. I'm plugged btw. is it normal?03:55
ki7mt_bilegt, no, use htop or top and watch for a memory leak in VIRT03:56
NoobsFlyRNPki7mt, what does sudo usermod -a -G sudo $USER actually do?03:56
NoobsFlyRNPAlso, I still get the same error: passwd: Permission denied03:57
ki7mt_modifies a users group and adds the sudo group to the user. You can see the groups a user belongs to by typing: groups from the command line.03:57
fgordonHmmm as linux uses free ram for cache I would say 70% percent ram usage is normal? depending on what the ram is used for03:58
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, How did you setup the user to begin with ?03:58
NoobsFlyRNPI did an su to drop to root shell, passed adduser xxxxx03:58
NoobsFlyRNPAnd put in the password.03:58
ki7mt_fgordon, No exactly, see man mem03:59
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, Well, you dont need to drop to a root shell, just use sudo03:59
NoobsFlyRNPTried that too. Same error.03:59
bilegtki7mt_: does watching flash videos affect performance too much?04:00
fgordonHmmm my computers < 8 gig have all ~ 80% usage only those with 16 gig or more have less04:00
bilegtki7mt_: it seems to happen when I watch videos on utube.04:00
undecimbilegt, While watching the video? yeah04:01
ki7mt_bilegt, I dont know, I dont watch them .. but I do know, HTML5 is better than flash.04:01
nicetiesAll these years and that trash Adobe flash is still around.04:01
eredwoodThank you ki7mt that was the tick I can get to my folders  now.04:01
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, Use this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/user-add.html04:01
undecimbilegt, Does the performance problem persist when you exit the page or something?04:01
bilegtundecim: it took a while to exit that utube page, and after that it became smoother04:02
undecimbilegt, It's possible that the flash plugin is misbehaving. What browser and what kind of system specs?04:02
NoobsFlyRNPki7mt, that guide doesn't apply to shell commands, though.04:03
NoobsFlyRNPI am using Ubuntu Server with no gui.04:03
nicetiesbilegt: chrome has the newest flash. Its the only browser that uses its own version04:03
bilegtundecim: ubuntu 14.10 and latest chromium I guess04:03
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, Ok, well this one does: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/adduser.8.html04:04
nicetiesbilegt: chromium uses the old version of flash. It uses the same one Firefox does04:04
bilegtniceties: Even though I installed flash plugin, does chrome only use its own version?04:05
nicetiesChrome uses its own version no matter what bilegt . You can force it to use the flash you installed.04:06
nicetiesAdobe stopped developing flash for Linux a few Years ago bilegt . Chrome uses the newest version that Windows uses.04:08
bilegtniceties: ok, so I'll try using chrome for few days and how it performs.04:10
pixelkathello!04:10
pixelkati finally decided.04:10
pixelkatubuntu 12.04 for me04:10
nicetiesbilegt: chromium uses the old version.04:10
ki7mt_Why 12.04 and not 14.04 ?04:10
pixelkatstability04:10
pixelkatapps in 12.04 work better for me than in 14.0404:10
nadimsite14.04 not stable?04:11
pixelkatfor me it wasnt04:11
vinitok04:11
ki7mt_Ok, well it's supported nonetheless, so go for it.04:11
pixelkatindeed!04:11
pixelkat:D04:11
nicetiespixelkat: probably 14.04 is becoming bloated04:11
nadimsiteGive us an app that doesn't work perfectly in 14.0404:11
pixelkatkazam04:12
pixelkatppsspp04:12
ki7mt_niceties, that's a very ambiguous statement04:12
nicetieski7mt_: older machines run better sometimes on older versions04:13
ki7mt_Ubuntu minimal  + XFCE could in no way be considered bloated.04:13
bubbasaurespixelkat, There is a offtopic channel for chat, you can have an actual conversation.04:13
pixelkatwow so many people in here04:15
Basketballme04:16
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pixelkatoh poop04:16
pixelkatOBS is only available on 14.0404:16
Finetundradoes youtube-dl not work anymore?04:16
ki7mt_What is OBS ?04:17
pixelkatopen broadcasting software04:17
ki7mt_Ok04:17
pixelkati use it to stream live to twitch.tv04:17
pixelkatbbl, system finished installing04:17
jeffrey_fOff topic, but can someone answer a really quick PHP question on private?04:18
rwwask ##php?04:19
ki7mt_niceties, if you have something to say, say it in the channel, I really dont want to read nasty PM's form you.04:19
jeffrey_frww: Gotcha04:19
ki7mt_s/from/form/g04:19
bubbasaureski7mt_, report it to the #ubuntu-ops04:19
rwwor don't, since we're #ubuntu ops, not PM ops04:20
ki7mt_I've never used that, hope I never have too.04:20
bubbasaureski7mt_, gotta take out the trash sometimes04:22
ki7mt_lol .. that seems to take care of itself round here ..04:23
NoobsFlyRNPki7mt, thanks for the adduser manpage. But the problem still exists.04:23
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, SO you've added the user, and all your after is adding them to the sudo group yes?04:24
NoobsFlyRNPNo, I'm just trying to set/change the password of the user. Let me get your a screenshot.04:25
ki7mt_I dont need a screen shot04:25
NoobsFlyRNPIt appears that I can't even set a new password while adding a new user to begin with: http://i.imgur.com/PDcWdPZ.jpg04:27
bubbasauresrww, Really that a new rule, has been the norm the 4 years I been here. ;)04:27
NoobsFlyRNPAlso, the user I'm currently logged on to is added to sudo group.04:27
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rwwbubbasaures: Ops have never had the ability to stop problematic PMs and have never stepped in unless it's some sort of channelwide harassment by a troll.04:28
rwwThat's been the case for the 5 years I've been here ;)04:28
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, so this is on a server or something ?04:28
NoobsFlyRNPThat is correct. (I have physical access to the server, btw.)04:29
ki7mt_via SSH I presume?04:29
NoobsFlyRNPCorrect.04:29
pixelkatsany ubuntu techs here?04:29
pixelkatsi installed 12.04 over windows and now when i reboot04:29
bubbasauresrww, Ah, just when they are in the channel actually using it seemed appropriate, out side pm's I understand, but I have PM's off so wont mention.04:29
pixelkatswindows says it needs to be repaired04:29
IdleOnebubbasaures: We can't stop PM abuse. If it becomes an issue where multiple known good helpers report an issue we might step in, but the PM abuse we can't really do much about04:29
NoobsFlyRNPI tried passing all the commands on the server too ki7mt.04:29
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, Try this: sudo useradd -d /home/testuser -m testuser04:29
NoobsFlyRNPThanks. Wait.04:30
bubbasauresIdleOne, Thanks.04:30
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, sudo passwd testuser04:30
quill-buildinghow can I remedy this? when I boot I get a black screen. all I did was change gpu driver04:31
pixelkatsdo i need to reinstall grub?04:31
pixelkatsany takers?04:31
NoobsFlyRNPki7mt, passwd: Permission denied04:31
NoobsFlyRNPSame error.04:31
bubbasaurespixelkats, Does it boot, it should?04:32
NoobsFlyRNPpixelkats, can you boot to Ubuntu, though?04:32
pixelkatsi cant boot to ubuntu04:32
pixelkatsit wont let me past windows repair screen04:32
pixelkatsim on live dvd right now04:32
bubbasaurespixelkats, More than one HD perchance? was it W8 you installed over?04:32
NoobsFlyRNPYou can try reinstalling GRUB, pixelkats.04:32
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, Is this on encrypted home dirst by any chance ?04:32
pixelkatsi installed ubuntu over windows 804:33
NoobsFlyRNPki7mt, yes.04:33
pixelkatsi have more than one hd, but my secondary hd is formatted as ext404:33
quill-buildinghow can I remove all additional drivers through the command line?04:33
bubbasaures!uefi | pixelkats might be something you should have known in general, UEFI04:33
ubottupixelkats might be something you should have known in general, UEFI: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI04:33
thomedyhey i am trying to learn more about programming video...04:34
thomedyis there an ubuntu app04:34
thomedythat i can look at the hex behind a video04:34
thomedythere is apparently a moov atom and i want to know more about it04:34
thomedyim trying to avoid writing  a hex editor04:34
thomedyso i can do this quicker04:34
bubbasaurespixelkats, Can you run sudo parted -l and pastebin it.04:35
pc_how do i make the terminal window appear in the super menu when i enter "cmd" instead of "term"?04:36
Seven_Six_Twothomedy bless is a hex editor. also, it's more considerate on irc to not  use the enter key as punctuation, especially in a busy channel.04:36
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, I know what I would do if I have physical access to the server, but being remote, I dont think it's safe to do. Is this a hosted sever?04:36
pixelkatshttp://pastebin.com/eHEa4t4z04:36
thomedyi found it... sorry its a force of habit... i apologize... i found bless right before you said that... I realized that after i hit return way too often that should just be googling it04:37
Seven_Six_Twothomedy, no worries. I do it too.04:37
pixelkatsi also get an error when i try to dban the HD04:37
NoobsFlyRNPki7mt, oh, it runs in my basement.04:37
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thomedycan i just say... and this is purely out of excitement... you know how none of the webcam's in ubuntu have a good resolution04:38
pixelkatsbubbasaures: did you get that pastebin?04:38
Seven_Six_Twothomedy, mine is hd04:38
pixelkatsmy webcam has good resolution in ubuntu04:38
thomedyor at least as far as i have seen... i am in the middle of writing anti internet software and (by the way it is testing so well.) but i amg oing to do that too... it sounds awesome04:38
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, No gaurentee here, but I would try, as root: rm -rf /home/.ecryptfs, then again adduser --encrypt-home ... .. ..04:38
Seven_Six_Two1920xwhatever]04:38
bubbasaurespixelkats, Yeah, how did you install ubuntu wubi sound familiar?04:38
thomedyreally... i have a great resolution on my images but not on my webcam04:38
pixelkatsi burned 12.04 to live dvd04:38
pixelkatsbooted it, clicked install04:39
Finetundralets try again, does youtube-dl not work anymore?04:39
jamie_hey i have an odd question. I run multiple desktops and was trying to use KDE and was wondering if it has to have a specific x11 currently using lightdm04:39
NoobsFlyRNPki7mt, tried that. No go.04:39
pixelkatsi didnt have this problem first time i installed ubuntu over windows04:39
bubbasaurespixelkats, encrypted?04:39
pixelkatsmaybe04:39
pixelkatshow do i check or unencrypt04:39
Ben64Finetundra: maybe not the one from the repo, update it04:39
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, Alternatively, check the permission are sudo chmod 755 /home/.ecryptfs04:39
bubbasaurespixelkats, I see no evidence of a ext4 partiton and a ntfs taking up half of sdb04:39
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, any dm will work. So will any desktop that I've tried.04:40
thomedycan i ask what webcam you are using and maybe there is a setting i can do to fix it04:40
pixelkatsit shouldnt be04:40
bubbasaureserr a tiny ntfs that is04:40
pixelkatsthat must be where windows is installed04:40
pixelkatsi told ubuntu to replace windows tho04:40
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: when i go to use kde for some odd reason the screen goes black, and only on kde04:40
ki7mt_NoobsFlyRNP, If that don't fix it, I'm outta ideas for this one.04:40
NoobsFlyRNPWell, thank you so much for the help, ki7mt.04:40
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, both monitors? do you have a mouse cursor?04:41
pixelkatsill try disabling fastboot and all that from bios04:41
pixelkatsbrb04:41
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, if I'm slow to react, it's because it's friday night, nudge nudge, wink wink, and I'm watching star trek.04:41
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: okay i may have miss worded, I have gnome3, ubuntu default, and cinnamon04:42
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Seven_Six_Twojamie_, which gives you the black screen? I have those too. I'm using cinnamon now.04:42
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bubbasaureswe are at warp ten now captain04:43
jamie_the forth one i just added kde, from kubuntu04:43
quillfordcan anyone gelp04:43
rqouhi, not sure of the best place to ask this, but I'm having trouble setting up UEFI secure boot using my own PK/KEK/db keys. KeyTool gives "Failed to update variable: (26) Security Violation" and efi-updatevar gives "Cannot write to PK, wrong filesystem permissions." System is definitely in setup mode04:43
quillfordcan anyone help?04:43
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, did you add kde-full package?04:43
bubbasauresquillford, Probably gotta know the issues04:43
quillfordhow can I remedy this? when I boot I get a black screen. all I did was change gpu driver04:43
quillfordbubbasaures ^04:44
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: i added the desktop environment via terminal04:44
rqouthe only reference to these errors on google seems to be http://blog.hansenpartnership.com/uefi-secure-boot/, but there is no clear solution there04:44
bubbasaures!nomodeset | quillford get in a fix it04:44
ubottuquillford get in a fix it: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter04:44
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, do gnome3 and cinnamon work fine?04:44
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: yep im in gnome3 now04:44
bubbasauresSeven_Six_Two, 14.10 it is in the repos04:44
rqoui tried compiling the latest efitools git, didn't help04:44
quillfordbubbasaures: I've tried that04:44
bubbasauresSeven_Six_Two, sorry, missed that was a question.04:45
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, what video card?04:45
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: one sec04:45
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: NVS 3100M/PCIe/SSE204:46
bubbasauresquillford, There is a safex boot in recovery you might try that, details are they key here for any help, drivers, hardware and what you did if you can, to the channel not me.04:46
quillfordis there any way to remove additional drivers installed through the root shell from recovery?04:47
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, is it a laptop? Does it also have integrated intel video?04:47
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: yes04:47
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, ok, that's a special problem.04:47
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: should be more than enough to run that with ease04:47
bubbasauresquillford, Try a TTY after a little wait on the boot.04:47
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: what do you mean04:47
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, oh wait nm.04:48
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, do you have mouse cursor in kde?04:48
quillfordbubbasaures: tty?04:48
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: the screen is kinda off04:48
bubbasauresquillford, ctrl-alt-1 1-6 are a terminal04:48
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, can you switch to a tty?04:48
bubbasauresquillford, sorry ctrl-alt-f1  my bad04:49
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: what04:49
quillfordbubbasaures: so on the black screen or root shell?04:49
Seven_Six_Twolol. I just realized that bubbasaures and I did the same thing. try ctrl+alt+F104:50
bubbasauresquillford, wait a minute on the black screen, you are probably up and running, just no graphics04:50
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, that should get you to a login screen, from where you might see a log.04:50
jamie_I have logged in from ubuntu 14.10 lightdm04:51
bubbasauresquillford, for the record the root shell is rarely used, never in a situation like this really.04:51
quillfordbubbasaures: it worked. how do I get the GUI back?04:51
bubbasauresquillford, You wanted a terminal to remove drivers.04:52
quillfordbubbasaures: how do I remove them?04:52
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, so then you get a black screen? try switching to another vtty using ctrl + alt + F104:52
bubbasauresquillford, Ah, other help needed, I was leading you to the trough so to speak. ;)04:52
quillfordbubbasaures: got it. thanls04:52
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, that should give you a non-graphical login screen. login from there if you can04:53
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: with what command to follow, the only one i can think of to try is startx04:53
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, do you know how to use cat and less?04:53
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: not really, only really used to using it from backtrack04:54
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, try      cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less04:54
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, scroll down to bottom, and look for driver issue.04:54
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: can i by anychance check the syslog04:55
protopopulusAmigos, how to make an kanji/katakana/hiragana keyboard input like in google translate?04:55
bubbasauresprotopopulus, ubuntu related how?04:55
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, you can, but your problem is more likely not a kernel issue. Xorg log will more likely have your error, since screen is turning off for only kde04:57
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, sorry. I misread your msg04:57
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: okay be right back ill try that and see04:58
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, but still, check xorg log first. then all other logs that you might want to look at.04:58
jamie_okay one sec04:59
thomedywhat is that alternative to ffmpeg05:01
ki7mt_avconv05:02
Seven_Six_Twothomedy, mencoder and avconv05:02
thomedyhere is what i need... and maybe i should be using ffmpeg i just dont have much experience with it.... convert mp4 to mov and the equivalent to test other movie formats05:04
thomedyfor the moov atom05:04
pixelkatsok05:05
pixelkatsfixed the problem05:05
pixelkatsbtw uefi was not enabled on my machine05:05
pixelkatsthe small ntfs partition on secondary HD was causing the problem05:05
jamie_Even that didnt work05:05
pixelkatsso i deleted that and reinstalled 12.0405:06
pixelkatseverything working well so far05:06
jamie_It was still just black and it is turned off to by the way05:06
ki7mt_thomedy, if you can ffmpeg makes it pretty easy: ffmpeg -i file-1.mp4 -acodec copy -vcodec copy -f mov file-2.mov05:06
thomedyi should probably man that to see what s going on with that command line05:06
Seven_Six_Twothomedy, getting familiar with the terminal is a good investment.05:07
quillfordis there a way to revert back to stock drivers from the terminal?05:07
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: still aint working at all05:08
Seven_Six_Twoquillford, have you done something that you regret? Can you please provide more info?05:08
jamie_even when using the ctrl-alt-f105:08
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, nothing happens when you do control alt f1?05:09
jamie_nope05:09
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: the screen is actually off05:09
quillfordSeven_Six_Two: indeed. I replaced the stock drivers with proprietary amd/ati ones05:09
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, interesting. is your harddrive running? do you have another computer from which you can ssh in?05:09
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thomedywell im fairly familiar with terminal05:10
thomedyi just dont know much about ffmpeg05:10
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: no, and yes my hardware is running.... wait.... i got a error reading from discriptor again... i may need to change my driver or update it..... u05:10
thomedyi have even written my own bin/bash and ran it out as a command05:11
thomedybut not familiar withffmpeg05:11
pixelkatsError mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so05:11
pixelkatswhat do!?05:11
Ben64pixelkats: what are you trying to do05:11
pixelkatsjust trying to mount my secondary hd05:11
Ben64pixelkats: yes that much i can tell, give me more information05:11
pixelkatsi really dont want to lose all my data05:11
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, yeah, likely driver or power management, but hard to tell. ok, can you log in to kde, then do what you have to do to log in to cinnamon or gnome, and pastebin your previous xorg log file to pastebin? It will be /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old or something similar. I'm using mint right now, so i don't know if my logs are different than stock ubuntu. anyone?05:11
pixelkatsim just trying to access HD05:12
Ben64pixelkats: thats the same information... i need more05:12
pixelkatsdidnt have this problem before installing windows05:12
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: well the nvida 311 bug still exist i thing with the kernal release05:12
pixelkatsthen when i installed ubuntu windows overtook the boot05:12
pixelkatsand said it needed repairing05:12
pixelkatsso, i deleted the ntfs partition on my secondary hd05:12
pixelkatsand now ubuntu boots05:12
pixelkatsbut now i cant access hd05:12
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, I don't know that bug, although gnome3 should be using the same driver as kde.05:12
pixelkatsi need to access my files05:13
Ben64pixelkats: less <enter> key please, and please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"05:13
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: all of it should be..... im using the same x1105:13
uhhimherehttp://cpushack.com/space-craft-cpu.html05:13
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, yeah, please pastebin your previous xorg log05:13
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: one sec05:13
rammaxeepixelkats: if you deleted it. Its gone05:13
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, it won't be Xorg.0.log if you're currently successfully logged in.05:14
pixelkatsben64: http://pastebin.com/BQnVPrWM05:14
Ben64pixelkats: yep, looks like sdb is deleted05:14
pixelkatsw.t.f.05:15
pixelkatssorry05:15
jamie_i cant get to it when logged into kde at all ctrl-alt-f1 isnt working05:15
pixelkatsbut seriously why05:15
Ben64pixelkats: probably because you deleted it... you can try testdisk suite to recover stuff05:15
pixelkatsi didnt tell wubi to delete the whole HD, just the ntfs partition that was like 700mb05:15
pixelkatshow do i use testdisk05:15
Ben64!recover | pixelkats05:15
ubottupixelkats: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel05:15
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: how exactaly do i get int then05:16
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, you said gnome3 works? use that to log in, and open a terminal. do    ls -l /var/log05:16
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, there will be one or more that start with Xorg.005:17
rammaxeepixelkats: open drive utility and see if the partition you have files on is their.05:17
pixelkatsdrive utility?05:17
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, sudo apt-get install pastebinip05:18
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765523/05:18
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, sudo apt-get install pastebinit05:18
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: what is that05:18
ki7mt_If the file system has been removed, it will not be easy to recover data, but whatever you do, don't write anything else to the drive.05:19
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, I don't know. It depends on when you logged in to kde last. There's only 2 from today, do probably the .old one05:19
bubbasaurespixelkats, Open gparted on the live dvd, do you see any partitions?05:20
bubbasaureson either HD05:20
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, the Xorg.0.log is always the current session. If  you're in kde in a virtual terminal, it's that one. If you tried kde, and are now in something else, it's the next oldest, which is Xorg.0.log.old05:20
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: cna you rewind for a sec, for one- have never successfully logged into kde and two- what were you saying about sudo apt-get install pastebinit05:20
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, the sudo command will install pastebinit, which allows easier pasting from terminal05:21
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: I prefer the site.... I dont have a very large hd05:21
zacwalls1my disk drive wont recognize the dvd-r in there. I have lost all faith. Anyone have a suggestion?05:22
rammaxeepixelkats: disk utility05:22
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, even logging in to kde and not getting a desktop will create an xorg log file, and the logs will rotate with every login.05:22
pixelkatsdisk utility says it is not partitioned05:22
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: to get out had to restart the computer completely05:22
Seven_Six_Twojamie_, it's a console prog, and won't take much space, but it's your choice.05:22
pixelkatshow do i hide people entering and leaving channel?05:23
rammaxeepixelkats: then the files are probably gone05:23
Seven_Six_Twopixelkats, then there is no partition,and no data outside of specialized recovery05:23
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: only have 75gb and that is a constant uphill battle for space05:23
pixelkatsgah!05:23
Seven_Six_Twopixelkats, it's based on your client05:23
pixelkatsoh well, time to reformay05:23
pixelkatsreformat05:23
Ben64pixelkats: or you can recover like i said05:23
Seven_Six_Twopixelkats, if it's important data, you can likelly recover.05:23
pixelkatsrecovery seems hard05:24
rammaxeepixelkats: hopefully you backed up important stuff offline05:24
Seven_Six_Twopixelkats, the longer you wait, and the more you do, the less likely it will be that you get all of your data.05:24
Ben64pixelkats: depends how much you want the data05:24
pixelkatsits ok, there wasnt anything i cant get back i dont think05:24
Tianhey guys05:25
Seven_Six_Twothat's good, because professional recovery usually costs in the thousands of dollars.05:25
Tianis it safe to say Wine is an extention on ubuntu05:25
cfhowlettTian, nope05:25
Tianthat allows you to install any windows application?05:25
cfhowlettTian, SOME windows apps to SOME extent05:26
bubbasauresTian, any not even close05:26
Tianoh05:26
pixelkatsdisk utility says my 750gb is ext405:26
NikolaiToryzinIt can run a lot of simpler stuff05:26
jamie_TiamL up to about xp and maybe recent with play on linux05:26
pixelkatsbut not partitioned05:26
jamie_Tiam: ^05:26
NikolaiToryzinBut overall wine is a great utility for a lot of simple use cases05:26
Seven_Six_TwoTian, Wine is a windows application layer of sorts. Provides windows framework witout actual OS. Which is why (W)ine (I)s (N)ot an (E)mulator05:26
quillfordrecursive like gnu?05:27
rammaxeeSome one tell pixelkats How to screen shot disk utility and paste it.05:27
NikolaiToryzinNope05:27
Seven_Six_TwoWine runs a lot of current stuff too, not just simple stuff.05:27
NikolaiToryzinquillford: stuff like GNU and XNU are recursive acronyms, meaning the first letter is the word itself05:28
DF3D2can someone tell me if the Marvell 88SE91XX sata3 controller is supported ?05:28
NikolaiToryzinGNU means GNU Not Unix and so on, and XNU means the same05:28
pixelkatshttp://i.imgur.com/pXahneo.jpg05:28
rammaxeepixelkats: You don't have no other partitions like swap or empty space.05:28
ki7mt_It runs allot of complex software, especially useful for testing cross compiler builds.05:28
pixelkatscheck SS05:29
kktexhi all05:29
Seven_Six_TwoDF3D2, not with certainty, but I would guess yes, based on previous experience with marvell05:29
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: Im probably just gonna remove it, I dont actually need it, I just like testing all of the different desktop environments05:29
rammaxeepixelkats: what if you select mount volume05:30
DF3D2Seven_Six_Two: was looking at buying this to add to my ubuntu server http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Star-SATA6-2-Port-SATA-III-6Gb-s-PCI-Express-x1-Controller-Card-Retail-Box-/221175567835?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337f1755db05:30
DF3D2I believe it has that marvell chip05:30
NikolaiToryzinquillford: actually I'm being dumb, wine is one05:30
nmvictorhi guys, what package mounts drives in nautilus? i am running05:30
nmvictornautilus in my mac but the drives are not shown on the status. Also, what05:30
nmvictorhappened to Trash folder in nautilus? just cant get in05:30
jamie_Seven_Six_Two: or ill just tey to get some help later... when its a little less busy05:30
pixelkatsrammaxee says filesystem driver not installed05:30
pixelkatswant SS?05:31
Seven_Six_TwoDF3D2, that chipset requires a config file modification, but is supported. google for that chipset with "linux"05:31
DF3D2Seven_Six_Two: I did but I just found some bug reports05:31
rammaxeepixelkats: it was ntfs before ext4.05:31
pixelkatsi havent changed anything05:32
pixelkatsso, can i just change it back to ntfs and get my stuff back?05:32
DF3D2Seven_Six_Two: im already using adaptec jbod cards to add some extra hdds. I have 6x3tb already and dont want to buy that if it will fight with the adaptec card somehow. I know they have a bios they use05:33
Seven_Six_TwoDF3D2, this link indicates fix:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marvell_Technology_Group_chipsets#88SE91xx_chipsets_Linux_support05:34
Ben64pixelkats: did you have anything in the ntfs partition you deleted?05:34
pixelkatsnope05:34
Ben64pixelkats: then how would that help?05:34
pixelkatsit was put there unwillingly by windows05:34
pixelkatsit was something like 700mb05:34
pixelkatsor less05:34
pixelkatsbut it kept ubuntu from booting05:34
DF3D2Seven_Six_Two: hmm that looks annoying though I'd have to do that each time, or write a script to do it on reboot?05:35
Seven_Six_TwoDF3D2, not sure05:36
kktexI'm planning to use my old hard drive with some bad blocks for not-important-files storage. Should I handle those bad blocks with some specific procedure/utility or simply create an extended partition with a ext4 logical partition inside? (gparted/ext4/OS will manage those bad blocks for me during partitioning?)05:37
pixelkatsoh welll, ill just reformat the drive05:37
rammaxeepixelkats: it will take long time to recover data. Software has to scan the whole drive for file headers. That's only if you don't do a deep format.05:37
rammaxeepixelkats: it could scan for a day.05:38
bubbasaureskktex, your risking just loosing what is put on it really.05:39
rammaxeepixelkats: then you have to manually filter out garbage files. Which could number in hundreds of thousands. Especially if the drive had an operating system on it.05:40
kktexbubbasaures not a problem, some trash video, some test ISO files....05:40
bubbasaureskktex, This an learning exercise than?05:41
DF3D2Seven_Six_Two: heh will i can get two "unbranded" with that marvell chip in it for $16 might as well give it a shot05:41
rammaxeeThat's why bubbasaures said it costs thousands to recover data. pixelkats . It's very time consuming.05:41
Seven_Six_TwoDF3D2, I think it's unlikely that you won't be able to get it working, with some help05:41
bubbasauresnever said that ;)05:41
Seven_Six_Twothat was me.05:42
DF3D2Seven_Six_Two: yeah I just dont know how it works, is it like my adaptec jbod/raid cards where they insert a system bios before the mobo bios? or what05:42
Seven_Six_Twoit's also a field with specialized software, and contracts that bill you no matter what is recovered.05:42
kktexbubbasaures also, just more storage where move big file instead wasting I/O cycles on my brand new hard drive.....05:42
Seven_Six_TwoDF3D2, yeah, something like that.05:43
BigBawbhi there, Im dual booting to windows and ubuntu and it seems to have messed with my system time.05:43
DF3D2im just scared it wont all play nice lol05:43
Seven_Six_TwoDF3D2, that will work like any OS though. Its the interaction bit later that might take some tweaking05:43
BigBawbNot so big of an issue to change it back. But when I generate a keystore to sign my android applications it says it "isn't yet valid"05:43
bubbasaureskktex, Never tried, never had a HD fail really, so not sure.05:43
Seven_Six_TwoDF3D2, then don't try to save a few dollars. Spend a few more that guarantees linux support.05:44
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Seven_Six_TwoPaying as little as possible will always have a drawback.05:44
bubbasauresBigBawb, IN windows though right?05:45
rammaxeeBigBawb: usually ubuntu uses local time. You may of told it to use utc time. Or maybe it's the other way around. Your system was using utc time and ubuntu changed it to local time.05:45
Ben64i think ubuntu uses utc by default05:45
BigBawbbubbasaures: Yes05:45
BigBawbswitching back to windows05:45
BigBawbIve read about this problem before05:45
bubbasauresBigBawb, Ubuntu should not have any to do with this is all.05:45
BigBawbsaying Ubuntu like uses GMT and adjusts idk it wasn't so bad05:45
DF3D2Seven_Six_Two: yeah googling makes it seem kind of like a piece of crap chip lol05:46
kktexbubbasaures point is... ext4 is smart enough to handle those bad blocks automatically or should I isolate them in a separate partition?05:46
DF3D2lots of bugs05:46
bubbasaureshadware or the MS OS05:46
rammaxeeBigBawb: it's a real issue and needs fixing. Its actually changing the time in UEFI05:46
BigBawbrammaxee: I tried changing my time back but it still says my keystore "Isn't yet valid"05:47
bubbasaureskktex, No idea I would not bother myself.05:47
BigBawbLike it will be in the future. I've read around and said this has to do with the system time. Realizing that I had been dual booting I looked (sure enough it was off ) I tried to change the time, remake the keystore. Still ot right05:47
rammaxeeBigBawb: does your system use bios or EFI05:47
kktexbubbasaures ok, I'll run some test...no files on it no risk...05:48
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dopiehey guys05:49
Seven_Six_Twokktex, I would only use that drive for transient data, like tmp or swap or downloads or whatnot05:49
dopieim getting this error in my sublime text was wondering if yu guys can help me out with it05:49
dopiehttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/1f249eeb41dc233f69ef05:49
rammaxeeBigBawb: EFI time is changed whenever05:49
BigBawbrammaxee: UEFI05:50
kktexSEven_Six_Two I will use it only for files storage, video, ISO and other things that if I loose it I will not cry....05:51
Seven_Six_Twokktex, then I wouldn't worry about it too much, just monitor it for acoustic changes, heat, dmesg output05:52
rammaxeeBigBawb: Yes dual boot systems cause this.05:52
nmvictorany reason why my nautilus wont show drives in the side bar?05:53
BigBawbWould I have to boot to my bios and change the time there?05:53
ki7mt_dopie, it's not a very complicated error, the file it's looking for, whatever ( it is ), is not finding the file, thus your getting the not found error.05:53
bubbasauresnmvictor, Are any in fstab?05:53
rammaxeeBigBawb: Did you tell ubuntu to use utc time05:53
Seven_Six_Twokktex, just format it as usual. does it have SMART?05:54
BigBawbrammaxee: D'= I did not05:54
kktexSEven_Six_Two I'm thinking about create [ Extended [ Logical ext4] ] on that drive,  to not bother primary boot partition on my OS hard drive, that's right? (yep SMART is on board and drive)05:54
BigBawbwould that solve the issue if I booted back to windows05:54
bubbasauresnmvictor, Okay are any set to be mounted on booting automatically?05:54
BigBawbbecause the issue seems to be deeper than just cosmetic05:55
rammaxeeBigBawb: You can change it in system efi, it's bios replacment. But every time you boot Windows it will change it again. Bios didn't allow Windows to change system time.05:56
nmvictorbubbasaures:no, i dont have fstab in my etc05:56
Seven_Six_Twokktex, not sure about what partitions you'll need, depends on uefi or bios. You don't have to have a boot partition normally, it's just a precaution if you remount boot write only, so likely doesn't matter to you. Unless you're a G-man.05:56
rammaxeeBigBawb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93638/local-time-with-dual-boot05:56
bubbasauresnmvictor, you have to have fstab to boot the OS.05:56
bubbasaureswell mount the partitions anyway05:57
cyberfab007hey fellas, listen I am having issues running a bash cmd from my php script , I have narrowed it down to a permissions issue in my ubunut server,05:57
cyberfab007how do I add permissions to www-data user to run a ruby command ?\05:57
nmvictorooh, actually am on mac, nautilus is running on my mac, which is05:57
nmvictorstill unix, but for some reason, no fstab.05:57
rammaxeeBigBawb: the time being off will also mess up updates.05:57
nmvictorbubbasaures:^05:58
Seven_Six_Twocyberfab007, change the owner of the script to www-data05:58
kktexSeven_Six_Two :) ok. (bios by now)05:58
bubbasauresnmvictor, What is the operating system?05:58
cyberfab007can I add the scirpt to the group www-data05:58
pc_how do i assign alt+enter to show super menu?05:58
Seven_Six_Twocyberfab007, not necessarily, although I'm not sure of the details,05:59
nmvictorbubbasaures:mac 10.905:59
rammaxeepc_: Just hold the Windows key05:59
bubbasauresnmvictor, not supported ever05:59
Seven_Six_Twocyberfab007, you can definitely try. do you know the command?05:59
bubbasauresyou wanna dual boot your supported nmvictor05:59
cyberfab007no I am looking it up05:59
Seven_Six_Twocyberfab007, sudo chown script-owner.www-data /path/to/script06:00
nmvictorbubbasaures:ooh, ok. so have to live with nautilus in my mac with06:01
nmvictorno side bar. i guess thats what i get for working with commercial os. Thanks anyways06:01
Seven_Six_Twocyberfab007, sudo chown cyberfab007.www-data ./mysuperruby.rb06:01
rammaxeepc_: isn't using one key. The Windows key good enough.06:01
rammaxeenmvictor: You can install KDE in osx.06:02
cyberfab007Seven_Six_Two,  ruby scirpts do not have direct paths06:03
Ben64nmvictor: this channel is for ubuntu support only06:03
pc_rammaxee: no it's not because i want it to be like on my mac06:04
pixelkatsflip it, im upgrading to 14.0406:04
pixelkatsbecause why not06:04
Seven_Six_Twocyberfab007, I'll take your word for it06:04
clockwork_Hello06:04
pixelkatsgnome-disks is better in 14.0406:04
kktexI go, thanks, bye06:04
Ben64pixelkats: good choice. 14.04 is the latest LTS, supported until 201906:04
clockwork_Could someone direct me in capturing audio directly from my soundcard?06:05
Seven_Six_Twocyberfab007, wait, how can a file not have a path?06:05
rammaxeepixelkats: download the 14.04.1 iso to upgrade.06:05
pixelkatshopefully some programs that i use from 12.04 will work as well on 14.0406:05
pixelkatsim already upgrading via update manager06:05
cyberfab007well to execute the scirpt in the command shell i use06:05
cyberfab007script input06:05
rammaxeepixelkats: Okay. Just takes longer.06:06
cyberfab007and it executes,06:06
pixelkatsoh06:06
pixelkatsok thats fine06:06
Seven_Six_Twocyberfab007, you can put that in a file and run it! http://ruby.about.com/od/tutorials/a/commandline_2.htm06:07
lava333Guess what house number captcha I just on webchat?06:08
lava33340406:08
lava333lol!06:08
clockwork_lol06:08
rammaxeelava333: so it said You are error06:09
lava333No, I'm not found :-)06:09
lava333That's also my phone extension at work06:09
clockwork_Not only that, neither is your compute06:09
lava333HTTP error 404: Not found06:09
clockwork_computer*06:09
lava333Does anyone here have access to an ubuntu mirror? I need someone to do a "du --max-depth 1 -h ...../pool" - on the pool directory, I need to know how big each of main, multiverse, restricted and universe is.... pleeeease06:10
clockwork_You're trying to find the size of... *gulp* multiple repositories? (I have no idea where to begin)06:10
clockwork_I'm just trying to foward my audio output to my input so I can then foward it to my phone06:11
aeon-ltdclockwork_: low tech, just run 3.5mm out to in06:13
lava333I started mirroring last night... I'm up to 337G.... I want to know if I've passed the halfway mark yet06:13
lava333Knowing the continuing bandwidth requirements to keep a mirror up-to-date would also be immensely cool, of course.......06:13
clockwork_the 3.5mm is annoying, my ports are so low grade that I can hear the grainyness of the mic input06:13
thomedyyou know what i just realized06:14
lava333337G is mainly on the main tree06:14
clockwork_i've been dealing with it and sucking it up for three weeks but I can't stand it anymore06:14
aeon-ltdclockwork_: i know audacity can handle audio routing internally, though i'm not sure if it can do system wide06:14
lava333I have a feeling universe is even bigger06:14
thomedyi was about to write code to move the moov atom on any video to the front of the video for quickstart play06:14
thomedyin my software06:14
lava333I only have 700G available....06:14
Ben64lava333: this is probably not the channel you want, this is for ubuntu support06:14
thomedysorry im hitting return alot again.... But i realized i can probably run a system call on a linux command and then move the moov atom or the ftyp with a command like ffmpeg or something like that in a much easier way06:15
rwwlava333: universe is a lot bigger than main.06:15
rwwlava333: I don't have numbers, but yeah.06:15
thomedythats way faster and easier... google time06:15
lava333Sadly, I can't seem to find much info on the web.... :-( I'm definitely blogging about- / publishing my experience setting up a mirror06:17
rwwlava333: You probably want #ubuntu-mirrors if you want more info on mirroring from IRC. It's a lot smaller than here though, so be prepared to ask, leave IRC open, and get an answer later (potentially a lot later, since Canonical is often on European time and it's now the weekend)06:18
lava333Yup, 8am to be exact... I'm sure lots of people work on Saturdays :-) Thanks06:19
ki7mt_lava333, sri, I been away fer a bit, what's question about mirrors?06:22
lava333ki7mt_: I've asked in ubuntu-mirrors too... I want to know if the 650GB figure is accurate for the size of a mirror.... I started last night and I'm up to 334G, just want to know how far I am. Also, I'd love to find graphs for bandwidth requirements of keeping up-to-date sans downloads.06:25
ki7mt_lava333, Ahh ok .. I can aswer the quesiton about their mirror, but  mine for 14.04 i386 and amd64 is just over 100GB.06:26
ki7mt_s/can't/can/g06:26
lava333ki7mt_: surely that's only the pool/main?06:27
ki7mt_lava333, that's for everything, main, Uni, Muti-Uni, etc etc06:27
lava333ki7mt_ Run a du --max-depth 1 -h ....../ubuntu/pool ?06:29
zacwallshow can i send a file via terminal over wireless network06:30
Ben64zacwalls: send to what?06:31
zacwallsAnother system06:31
ki7mt_lava333, At the moment, no I cannot, as I'm not on the right LAN.06:31
lava333zacwalls: what terminal? text file? copy and paste :-)06:31
Ben64zacwalls: thats not helpful06:31
zacwallsI mean iso file06:31
zacwallslike an image06:31
lava333zacwalls: scp / winscp06:32
zacwallsIs that the command?06:32
lava333zacwalls: in the old days we used Xmodem protocol. If you want to get really geeky, you can probably still use it today, LOL :-)06:32
zacwallsreally06:32
zacwallsNow everything is tcp /ip06:33
ki7mt_lava333, If your downloading sources also, I could easily see a full i386 / amd64 mirror being over 600GB06:33
lava333zacwalls: no, don't. What terminal are you using? Its easier to use scp. If you had to ssh 192.168.0.1 you can just as well scp my-local-file.iso 192.168.0.1:/my/remote/path06:33
Ben64zacwalls: again, send to what06:33
zacwallsAnother pc running win 706:34
lava333zacwalls: or if you're on windows, use winscp, bitvise tunnelier, or filezilla scp06:34
lava333zacwalls: from windows to windows?06:34
zacwallsto06:34
lava333zacwalls: or windows to ubuntu?06:34
lava333zacwalls: download winscp or bitvise... you'll like it06:34
zacwallsubuntu to win06:34
Ben64from the windows computer you can use winscp, from linux you could use samba, but you'd have to have file sharing set up06:34
Ben64and you'll need openssh-server on ubuntu in order to connect with winscp06:35
zacwallsHow can i do that06:35
lava333zacwalls: yes. sudo apt-get install openssh-server06:35
zacwallsThats easy enough06:36
zacwallsbrb06:36
joe___hey guys, I had disabled Intel rapid storage tech, fastboot and UEFI in my laptop before installing ubuntu. Now I've Ubuntu Running properly on lappy. So Should I enable these to improve performance?06:37
eaxxaewhat is the best source for books online, can be any protocol. torrent, irc, https, http, ftp, etc... [please resist urge to flame]06:37
eaxxaewhat is the best source for books online, can be any protocol. torrent, irc, https, http, ftp, etc... [please resist urge to flame]06:37
eaxxae- one of those.. ugh.06:37
clumsy_boteaxxae: Gutenberg?06:38
Ben64eaxxae: not on topic here06:38
eaxxaeclumsy_bot: Project Gutenberg, love it .. yes.06:38
zacwallsDone06:38
zacwallsnow what?06:38
eaxxaeBen64: any suggestions on where it might be 'on topic'06:39
lava333zacwalls: Or if you want to get really fancy, use SAMBA. apt-get install samba. Then you can just use windows filesharing.... but then you need to set passwords on Windows, and you need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and service samba restart. Or you can mount your windows share on ubuntu: mount //windows-pc/MYSHARE /media/windows7 -o username=MYWINDOWSUSERNAME and then access it like its a directory on ubuntu06:39
clumsy_botPretty sure there should be an ubuntu-offtopic channel.06:39
bubbasaureszacwalls, If you're addressing someone use their nick06:39
joe___hey guys, I had disabled Intel rapid storage tech, fastboot and UEFI in my laptop before installing ubuntu. Now I've Ubuntu Running properly on lappy. So Should I enable these to improve performance?06:39
Ben64there is indeed #ubuntu-offtopic06:39
undecimjoe___, I don't think fastboot or UEFI will increase performance06:39
zacwallsOkay06:39
bubbasaures!patience | joe___06:39
ki7mt_real fancy would be be to use sshfs :-)06:39
ubottujoe___: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/06:39
undecimjoe___, Maybe Intel's think might, but IDK anything about it06:40
zacwallslava333: lets try and stick with ssh06:40
joe___ok06:40
undecimthink*06:40
Ben64zacwalls: now you can browse your system using winscp from windows, all you need is your ip, user name, and password06:40
undecimthing**06:40
gartralhey all, I have a laptop with a wacom tablet intergrated into the display (HP Elitebook 2730p) and since upgrading to 14.10 from 14.04 the tablet isn't detected... any ideas?06:40
eaxxaeclumsy_bot: gratzi, gracias, thank you..06:40
bubbasauresjoe___, Channel likes ten min intervals. ;)06:40
zacwallsAnd i need to set that up using ssh?06:40
Ben64zacwalls: you already have ssh06:41
eaxxaegartral: probably a change in the packages that deal with it, you should see if it's detected at all and move on from there.. lspci06:41
zacwallsDo i need to set a password?06:41
lava333joe___ - it won't do much... fastboot just makes your PC not search for CD's, USB, etc... so maybe your pc will boot 1 second faster. Whoop.06:41
zacwallsNvm06:41
zacwallswhat do i need on win?06:42
undecimzacwalls, winscp or Filezilla06:42
eaxxaegartral: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom06:42
gartraleaxxae: it isn't detected at all06:42
zacwallsokay brb06:42
clumsy_botIs there documentation for Startup Disk Creator? As in, what it does in the backend?06:42
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eaxxaegartral: it's an integrated device, to a display... does it require a USB cable go from the display to the tower .. if so, have you tried a different usb port and or rebooted ?06:42
clumsy_botI've always wondered how Startup Disk Creator creates LiveUSBs that still allow remaining space to be used in other OSs (e.g Windows 7)06:43
eaxxaenevermind06:43
eaxxaeit's a laptop06:43
gartraleaxxae: no, it's intergrated internally, the Elitebook 2730p is a laptop/portable workstation06:43
cfhowlettclumsy_bot, man usb-creator-gtk06:43
undecimgartral, Can you put the output of "lshw" into paste.ubuntu.org? It would tell us if its detected at all, and how it is connected06:44
clumsy_botcfhowlett: Very basic man page, just covers normal usage.06:44
gartralundecim: sure, one moment06:44
undecimgartral, Actually, "sudo lshw"06:45
undecimmore "rootsy" than normal lshq06:45
undecimlshw*06:45
gartralundecim: already knew to add sudo06:45
bubbasauresclumsy_bot, You would have to do some work to get any second partition on a usb seen by windows.06:46
gartralundecim: hold, installing pastebinit06:46
undecimArtemis3, Well, I can't really assume anyone's knowledge level until they indicate it06:46
bubbasauresnot sure what you mean06:46
clumsy_botbubbasaures: Yea, I've never been able to get that to work. Startup Disk Creator with persistence seems to be able to allow everything on just one partition though.06:46
clumsy_botbubbasaures: It was basically able to create 1 partition with Live + Persistence + Free space for use in Windows06:47
bubbasauresclumsy_bot, Yes, casper-rw is the persistent, can be just a partition as well.06:47
gartralundecim: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765791/06:47
zacwallsCopying files.....06:47
clumsy_botbubbasaures: I previously used dd to create LiveUSB on other distros cause they don't have Startup Disk Creator, so documentation on how SDC creates LiveUSB would be nice...06:48
bubbasauresclumsy_bot, I think you mean you have a save option, not a free space in windows, it is a free space anywhere.06:48
clumsy_botbubbasaures: dd just left with a bootable USB but no way to utilize remaining space.06:48
bubbasauresclumsy_bot, I think what you want is to understand casper-rw06:49
cfhowlettclumsy_bot, eh?   I use the extra space on USB all the time06:49
undecimgartral, I dont see anything that looks like a wacom06:49
cfhowlettclumsy_bot, on live boot: save files to /etc/cdrom/06:50
gartralundecim: it's deffinately part of the hardware, it worked in 14.04, but since the jump, it's been MIA06:50
undecimgartral, Any info on how it was set up before? Did you have to install anything?06:50
undecimgartral, Or did it work out of the box?06:50
clumsy_botLet me grab a screenshot to make sure we're on the same page for what I'm looking for.06:51
clumsy_botGimme a sec.06:51
zacwallsWhat file protocol do i use?06:51
gartralundecim: it did *NOT* work out of the box, I had to install the xorg input driver for it06:51
undecimgartral, Can you confirm that this driver is currently installed?06:51
gartralundecim: hold06:51
undecimzacwalls, to transfer files over SSH, use SFTP06:52
zacwallsokay06:52
zacwallswhat about host name and port and all that stuff?06:52
undecimzacwalls, You'll need to figure out your host name. Port wont matter if you specify SFTP (22 by default, I think)06:53
gartralundecim: installed yes; in xorg.conf; yes, loaded and working; no06:53
clumsy_botcfhowlett: bubbasaures http://mediacrush.net/V9LPpLoGLU4706:53
undecimzacwalls, figure out your IP address, I mean06:53
undecimzacwalls, And use that as the host name06:53
zacwallsWat command on ubuntu?06:53
undecimgartral, Can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log?06:53
undecimzacwalls, ip addr06:53
clumsy_botcfhowlett: Files are still accessible, and the remaining free space is also usable. I'm curious on how to achieve a similar result without the use of Startup disk Creator06:53
zacwallsTxh06:54
zacwalls*thx06:54
undecimclumsy_bot, You can start a live session from the creator and investigate the configuration06:54
bubbasauresclumsy_bot, many usb loaders, most have a persistent as aart of the install choice, you can make a partition as well casper-rw is the key, right click it and see it's size.06:55
undecimclumsy_bot, better yet, open up 2 VMs. One using a creator USB and one using a unetbootin USB or a Live CD06:55
bubbasaurespart*06:55
cfhowlettclumsy_bot, format the drive to fat32/xfat.  use fdisk to create OS partition of ... say 5 GB.  create a secondary partition labeled casper-rw in ext4 format .  dd your .iso, delete the casper-rw file06:55
gartralundecim: certainly, ICH9M-E LPC06:55
gartraloops06:55
zacwallsinet?06:55
cfhowlett!persistence | clumsy_bot06:55
ubottuclumsy_bot: To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence06:55
gartralundecim: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765802/06:55
undecimgartral, What's the name of the driver?06:56
clumsy_botcfhowlett: undecim I'll check out all your suggestions. Thanks.06:56
gartralundecim: it used to be xinput-wacom or similar..06:56
zacwallsOr inet6?06:56
undecimgartral, your Xorg.conf, also06:57
gartralundecim: I'm sorry I don't remember the exact name >.>06:57
undecimgartral, /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:57
bubbasauresclumsy_bot, Just be aware if you have anything saved on the usb, when you remove casper it is gone.06:57
undecimgartral, Or may be files in xorg.conf.d06:57
clumsy_botbubbasaures: Alright, I'll bear that in mind.06:58
undecimgartral, from Xorg.0.log: [    63.445] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.06:58
zacwallsCant assign06:58
undecimgartral, did Xorg.conf change with the upgrade?06:58
gartralundecim: neither /etc.X11/xorg.conf nor /etc/xorg.conf.d exist06:59
l9reinstalling is #¤%&%/%¤/64 to say at least :/ oh well fresh slate i recong06:59
undecimgartral, You said "in xorg.conf: yes"07:00
zacwallsWat username?07:00
Ben64zacwalls: your username in ubuntu07:00
gartrali did, but I don't remember where it was >.<07:00
zacwallsOh07:00
gartralundecim: I should point out that I may have had one too many beers tonight07:01
undecimgartral, well it's certainly not in a place where Xorg will use it07:01
undecimIt should still auto-detect I would think...07:01
gartralundecim: "find Xorg.conf" and "locate Xorg.conf" both failed07:01
zacwallspassword is my unix password correct?07:01
undecimzacwalls, correct.07:01
gartralzacwalls: yep07:01
zacwallsIs there anything i need to do on ubuntu?07:02
gartralzacwalls: have you used any linux/*nix before?07:02
zacwallsum....07:02
zacwallsnot sure07:03
undecimgartral, So you're SURE that xserver-xorg-input-wacom package is still installed?07:03
gartralundecim: YES i had to reinstaal it, and rebooted after07:03
undecimzacwalls, All you have to do on ubuntu is install the openssh-server package. After that, any SSH client can access the computer with the IP address, username, and password07:03
zacwallsso in terminal?07:04
undecimgartral, So you added it to xorg.conf before, and now xorg.conf is missing?07:05
undecimzacwalls, sudo apt-get install openssh-server07:05
gartralundecim: this seems to be the case..07:05
zacwallsI did07:05
zacwallsso do i have to run it?07:05
undecimzacwalls, No, it installs it as a service and launches it immediately07:05
undecimgartral, well it seems you need to do that again.07:06
undecimgartral, see if there is something like xorg.conf.bak in /etc/X11/07:06
gartralundecim: add it to Xorg.conf? how if the file is missing?07:06
undecimgartral, I suppose the upgrade cleared it out.07:06
zacwallsI have a file on ubuntu that i wish to share with win. And my password wont work to login. so...... What did i do wrong?07:07
gartralundecim: nope, not there.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765824/07:07
undecimzacwalls, What client are you using?07:07
zacwallswinscp07:07
undecimI'm not familiar with winscp. What errors does it display on failure?07:07
zacwallsand it says somthing about the server closing07:07
undecimzacwalls, From Ubuntu, can you successfully run "ssh localhost"?07:08
Forest-DragonHiya, I am wondering, which channel should I visit for asking people to review a program I am working on and offer suggestions?07:09
zacwallsI added it to the list of known hosts07:09
undecimForest-Dragon, if it's an ubuntu-related program, maybe #ubuntu-offtopic?07:10
undecimzacwalls, That is with "ssh localhost"?07:10
zacwallsyes07:10
eatyourguitarhas anyone here installed clojure? I'm looking for an install guide for clojure + leiningen + quil07:10
Forest-DragonThanks.07:10
undecimzacwalls, Did the login complete? You should see a fresh print of your system stats and stuff07:10
ErC1I using Vuse 4.3.0.6 , Is there anyway to get an updated Woring Vuze ?07:11
undecimzacwalls, It will look like you opened a new terminal07:11
zacwallsecdsa key fingerprint07:11
ErC1I using Vuse 4.3.0.6 , Is there anyway to get an updated Working Vuze ?07:11
zacwallsso...no07:11
undecimzacwalls, can you pastebin that terminal?07:11
thomedyi went to sudo apt-get install ffmpeg and i dont even have it as a candidate07:11
thomedywtf07:11
zacwallsi just want to say im on eth007:12
kk_need help to autodetect android device on ubuntu armhf image on beaglebone black07:12
zacwallsi dont have wireless compatibilities on ubuntu07:12
kk_anybody experience with MTP on ubuntu?07:12
jamie_ hey,  came on here earlier trying to get some help but it seemed a little busy... for some odd reason when trying to run kde desktop environment it will go through the login via ubuntu 14.10 lightdm but then as it gets to leaving the login the screen goes black no courser and ctrl-alt-f1 doesn’t work at all and the screen seems to be turned off07:13
gartralundecim: you as confused as I am?!?07:14
undecimgartral, Can you bring me beers until I'm as confused as you are?07:14
gartralundecim: you in Ohio?07:14
zacwallshttp://pastebin.com/WAU97YqU07:14
undecimgartral, No, Alabama07:15
gartralundecim: darn, no I can't07:15
zacwallswhat is the localhost password?07:15
undecimYour login password07:15
zacwallsnope07:15
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* gartral bang head into his Linux Bible saying "Give me strength!"07:16
undecimzacwalls, do "ssh -vv localhost" and pastebin the result07:16
zacwallsk07:16
The_Stuntmanwondered if someone could give me a quick hand with a mail server setup, I utilized this guide here http://www.krizna.com/ubuntu/setup-mail-server-ubuntu-14-04/07:16
The_Stuntmanand it seems like if I telnet, I can see all of the ports are open but 23 and 99307:16
The_StuntmanI used uwf disable to disable the firewall for testing purposes07:17
jamie_zacwalls: do you think it may not be set, kinda like root where it needs to be set first for some odd reason, i know its normaley not that way with localhost... but what the heck07:17
The_StuntmanI'm running ubuntu 14.04.107:17
undecimjamie_, It would have given an incorrect password line if it were a bad password or username07:17
zacwallsMaybe?07:17
undecimI've never seen it just drop the connection like that07:17
jamie_undecim: it was a shot in the dark07:17
zacwallshttp://pastebin.com/acXuewSs07:18
undecimjamie_, Or maybe his is behaving differently for some reason07:18
jamie_undecim: one sec let me take a closer look07:18
undecimzacwalls, That time it worked O_o07:19
zacwallsIDK anymore07:19
undecimzacwalls, "Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS"07:19
undecimtry from Win again07:19
undecimmaybe it fixed itself.07:19
jamie_undecim: are yall trying to set up a apache?07:19
undecimjamie_, SSH server07:19
jamie_undecim: same concept07:19
zacwallsaccess denied07:19
zacwalls:(07:20
undecimzacwalls, try again. That sounds like a bad username or password07:20
zacwallsDid i use the right ip/username?07:20
undecimIt was a different error from before?07:20
zacwallshow can i see what my username for ssh is?07:20
The_Stuntmannevermind -.- apparantly all I needed was a quick restart07:20
undecim'Access denied' sounds like it's the right IP address, but bad login credentials07:20
undecimzacwalls, It's the same username as ubuntu07:21
zacwallsi mean the host name07:21
zacwallssrry07:21
undecimzacwalls, in a terminal: whoami07:21
jamie_undecim: are you using just openssh07:21
zacwallsokay07:21
jamie_sorry kinda came in late07:21
undecimzacwalls, host name will be the IP address07:21
zacwallsI am zack07:21
zacwallsthats what it says07:21
undecimjamie_, Trying to transfer files to/from windows client. Winscp fails to login to SSH07:22
undecimzacwalls, hostname = your ip address from "ip addr"; username = your username from "whoami"; password = your unix password07:22
undecimzacwalls, if it gave the error "access denied" you probably have the right hostname/ip07:23
undecimzacwalls, A bad username will give the same error as a bad password (so hackers can't figure out what usernames exist)07:23
jamie_undecim: so you just want to transfer files.... why dont you just use samba07:24
zacwallsI figuerd it out07:24
undecimjamie_, he was given the option of that and SSH, chose SSH07:24
undecimSSH is easier than samba07:24
zacwallsThx for all your guys help07:25
undecimNo setting up shares and whatnot.. Just access to all the files07:25
zacwallsBye!07:25
undecimzacwalls, any time07:25
jamie_sorry i wasnt of much help07:25
jamie_undecim: undecim: okay, i was just asking because samba in my opinion is easier... compared to this... and well ssh is used for adminstation mainly07:25
undecimNo need to apologize for something like that. It's not like we're paying you07:26
jamie_well i enjoy helping07:26
undecimjamie_, Well, depends on the situation. For personal use by a Linux user, SSH is the way to go. Its flexible and quick to set up07:26
* cfhowlett was preparing the invoice ...07:26
undecimIf you set it up for others to use, Samba is easier for the end user07:26
jamie_undecim: for constant use and easier maintenance and adding computers i would have to say samba is more worth the time07:27
jamie_but to each their own07:27
undecimexactly. Whatever works07:28
gartralundecim: well, i'mma sleep on the issue... maybe by tomarrow I'll have a clue07:28
undecimgartral, Have fun with it!07:28
undecimgartral, Xorg.conf is easier sober07:28
gartralundecim: I wrote server code drunk that didn't break in 6 weeks07:28
jamie_oh... by the way.... i almost forgot i came on here for a specific reason this time07:29
undecimThis is why I stick with LTS. Upgrades are nightmares07:29
undecimgartral, I write my best code drunk07:29
gartralundecim: I agree on both counts07:29
undecimgartral, sometimes i have use hemingway's advice and edit later07:30
jamie_lol that is a odd thing... but I cant say much... i work best half asleep and after a 27hr day07:30
undecimFor me, it works best to plan out the whole task sober, then write it with a few in me07:30
aeon-ltdjamie_: adrenaline only periods of time07:31
undecimUnless I get past that Ballmer peak07:31
jamie_aeon-ltd: i dont sleep much in general... so.... yea07:31
Chocolahi, anyone know how to set vsftpd to use port 2222? result would be like this: ftp://my.domain.com:2222 at browser07:31
jamie_oh and while i still remember... im gonna scratch you brains for a min07:31
jamie_ for some odd reason when trying to run kde desktop environment it will go through the login via ubuntu 14.10 lightdm but then as it gets to leaving the login the screen goes black no courser and ctrl-alt-f1 doesn’t work at all and the screen seems to be turned off07:32
undecimjamie_, You have to hard shutdown?07:32
jamie_kinda07:32
undecimCan you raise elephants?07:32
bazhangundecim, thats not helpful07:33
jamie_lol what.... but sometimes i can use the double tap of ctrl-alt-delete and it will take me back to login... but some of them i have to hard reboot07:33
undecimbazhang, The B still works, doesn't it?07:33
undecimI haven't had to do it in so long... I know Ubuntu disabled some of the SysRq07:34
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undecimjamie_, It sounds like a hardware issue, probably graphics related07:34
bazhangundecim, this channel is for support, please refrain from nonsense commentary, thanks07:34
jamie_hey... i dont necessarily need it but im getting a good laugh right now07:34
jamie_Nope, can guarentee it07:34
undecimbazhang, eh?07:34
jamie_i am currently in genome307:34
undecimbazhang, What nonsense commentary?07:35
jamie_can run cinnamon and ubuntu default also.. but kde doesnt work07:35
cfhowlettundecim, "elephants" is clearly offtopic07:35
undecim"raise elephants" refers to SysRq keys07:35
bazhangthe whole drunkenness bits07:36
undecimjamie_, KDE starts a compositor by default, I think07:36
undecimjamie_, That may be triggering the thing07:36
undecimjamie_, You say sometimes you can get back to a login? So the computer isn't totally halted.07:37
undecimbazhang, Oh yeah. You were a little late for that? Now we're just adding more lines talking about it...07:37
undecimjamie_, Are you logged into X now?07:38
jamie_undecim: the first time i went to log onto kde desktop it popped up with the start of kubuntu but then... went black at first I thought it may be due to not running the standard x11 for it07:38
undecimjamie_, I'd like to see an Xorg log from a failed session07:38
jamie_that is the weird thing... I have checked... there isnt one07:38
jamie_http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765523/07:38
ki7mt_Chocola, unless things have changed rescently, edit the vsftp conf file in /etc/vsftpd.conf and set the listen_port07:38
undecimjamie_, Xorg.0.log?07:39
jamie_one sec07:39
undecimjamie_, Or are you logged into X in another DE right now? if so, that's not a log from a failed session07:39
undecimjamie_, though your previous session (Xorg.1.log) was Jan 5?07:40
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jamie_no... and that is from about 1 hr ago07:40
undecimjamie_, What GPU?07:40
jamie_undecim: NVS 3100M/PCIe/SSE207:41
undecimjamie_, has anything remotely similar to this happened before?07:42
jamie_nope07:42
void123hello is crontab @reboot useless when you have encrypted lvm? ive bene trying different things and nothing ever happens, like @reboot logger "testing testing"07:42
undecimjamie_, Are you using proprietary drivers?07:43
jamie_yes07:43
undecimjamie_, does the same thing happen with FOSS drivers?07:43
jamie_the others dont work..... the stupid 331 bug applies to me.... :\07:44
undecimfun.07:44
jamie_undecim: so the recent linux kernal release kind scewed me over07:45
undecimeven fbdev and vesa?07:45
jamie_cat/var/log/Xorg.0.log | less returns nothing but ~07:45
undecimJust to 1) verify that the drivers are part of the bug at hand and 2) to try disabling compositing in KDE07:46
jamie_how do i do that from outside of it07:46
undecimjamie_, Did you put a space after cat?07:46
jamie_lol whoups07:46
undecimjamie_, That's why I suggested a FOSS driver. idk how to do it from outside07:46
undecimjamie_, Also, you can just do 'less filename'07:47
undecimSave your pinky a trip over there07:47
jamie_one sec07:48
DrManhattanI'm getting a strange series of errors when I run du with the max-depth option. it doesn't interfere with the command but I am a bit worried about why it would do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765950/07:48
jamie_undecim: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9765953/ .....07:48
undecimjamie_, nothing helpful there. This log is from a successful session?07:49
jamie_undecim: yes... gonna see if somehow i can manage to get one from the failed.... gonna try to launch no grapical terminal as soon as it accepts password07:50
undecimDrManhattan, possibly between the time that program sees that file exists, and attempts to access it, the file is gone?07:50
DrManhattanhmm07:51
undecimDrManhattan, /proc/ is one of those funny filesystems that doesn't have a lot of "normal" files07:51
undecimDrManhattan, is it the same files each time?07:51
jamie_and try all of the drivers real fast.... because when i switched to the proprietary from nvida when that one got working again it was no longer saying broken pipe reading from descriptor and now is again07:51
DrManhattanundecim, yes07:51
DrManhattanundecim, I got it - thank you http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/152851/du-command-gives-error-and-result-at-the-same-time07:52
undecimDrManhattan, when I do it, I get the same pattern with differn PIDs07:54
DrManhattanundecim - adding the -x option helped me07:54
jamie_undecim: what other drivers where you sugesting... all the ones here other than the open source are from nvida and base around the legacy binar driver07:54
undecimjamie_, vesa and fbdev07:54
jamie_Okay gonna look into those07:55
undecimjamie_, You either have to set them up in xorg.conf or remove the other drivers07:55
jamie_this ought be fun07:55
undecimIf you can get in with an alternate driver, try disabling the compositor in KDE and coming back with the proprietary07:55
EriC^^DrManhattan: i tried du /proc & ps aux07:56
EriC^^DrManhattan: undecim is right, it's the pid of the du command itself07:56
DrManhattanEriC^^, did you get the error too? just out of curiosity07:56
DrManhattanEriC^^, right on, thank you07:56
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EriC^^it changes every time and it disappears07:56
jamie_undecim: any links for info?07:58
undecimjamie_, The first response in this link shows a simple xorg.conf to select the video driver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200665507:59
jamie_undecim: okay thanks07:59
undecimHow's Kubuntu/KDE these days?08:00
jamie_undecim: would love to tell ya08:00
undecimXD08:00
jamie_undecim: and i started to read down that.... the problem is different08:00
undecimjamie_, The problem is different, but the technique to change drivers is the same08:01
jamie_undecim: I have an odd idea.... if I uninstall kde then reinstall and try to redo it and the first time i do have access to the Xorg log08:01
undecimNo point to do an uninstall and reinstall08:02
undecimJust remove the KDE stuff from your home dir08:02
jamie_well should, there was a small bit in first attempt that was there08:02
jamie_and I dont know if this may help... but when i start my computer it doesnt say ubuntu.... it says kubuntu08:03
jamie_but opens ubuntu lightdm login and under the x11 for ubuntu not kubuntu08:03
cfhowlettjamie_, that's a plymouth startup theme ... doesn't mean kubuntu is installed08:03
undecimjamie_, You might try changing to KDM then08:04
jamie_cfhowlett: i know, just saying that its instalizing that way for some odd reason08:04
Chocolaki7mt_ > just changing the listen_port ?08:04
cfhowlettjamie_, because at some point you installed  kubuntu ...08:04
jamie_undecim: it has since i installed kde from terminal08:04
undecimjamie_, So you're on KDM now?08:05
jamie_cfhowlett: its still ubuntu... not kubuntu all defaults are still set and its not using the x11 that kubuntu uses08:05
jamie_undecim: no I am in genome308:05
rajin gparted, my drive size seems to be off by 1 byte, can someone tell me why? https://i.imgur.com/F6QGC2j.png and https://i.imgur.com/oBWcA4p.png08:05
undecimKDM = KDE Display Manager08:05
jamie_oh sorry, read it wrong08:06
jamie_and no... i am using lightdm08:06
undecimjamie_, You can try KDM. I would normally expect it to help,  but with proprietary drivers, anything is possible08:07
jamie_.... :\08:07
jamie_that is gonna really piss me off if it does....08:08
undecimjamie_, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' should switch it, I think08:08
jamie_when i was on earlier I asked and even stated that and asked.... and the person said no... there will be no difference08:08
undecimjamie_, Well normally, there shouldn't be a difference08:09
jamie_undecim: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9766028/08:10
undecimjamie_, I only suggest KDM because it might handle logging into KDE different than lightdm08:10
jamie_undecim: ^08:10
undecimOh, i guess sudo apt-get install kdm, then08:10
jamie_... lol08:11
cfhowlettjamie_, if it's splash screen options only ... http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/tag/install-change-plymouth-themes/08:11
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jamie_.... this is gonna sound really odd08:11
jamie_I actually already have two dm in there and setable... and kdm makes three.....08:12
undecimjamie_, Really? what's the other?08:13
jamie_gdm08:13
jamie_yea.... im like... where did that come from08:13
undecimOh yeah, gnome308:13
jamie_i know what its for... but i dont remember putting it there08:13
undecimjamie_, it comes with gnome 308:13
jamie_.... it would have asked me... not to sound rude... this aint my first rodeo08:14
jamie_and also why wouldnt kdm be there to start with if it is for some odd reason thinking its kubuntu at start up08:14
undecimjamie_, Who knows.08:15
nithinHi My Micro SD card is not working could some one please help me to recover it.08:15
jamie_i should restart the dm now right?08:15
undecimjamie_, errm... Stop lightdm, start kdm08:16
bubbasauresnithin, What is the file type?08:16
bubbasauresthis a fat ext ntfs?08:17
nithinbubbasaures: file type in the sense?08:17
bubbasauresnithin, What is the partition  type?08:17
nithini thing it is fat08:17
bubbasauresnithin, Can you run a chkdsk /f from windows if a MS type08:18
bubbasauresmight work in  windows, have you checked?08:18
jamie_hey by any chance... do you know the command for that......08:18
chebithi08:18
chebitwhich is more stable 14.04 or 14.10 ?08:18
Ben6414.04 is LTS08:18
jamie_nvm.... just rememver i have to restart my computer.... dam08:19
jamie_be right back with outcome08:19
undecimjamie_, That works08:19
chebitI have problems with my 14.1008:19
undecim14.04 should be more stable08:20
undecimit's an LTS, and it's had 6 more months of testing compared to 14.1008:21
bubbasauresdon't hold back describing it to the channel08:21
gagaliciousi am overly used to iptables08:23
gagaliciouswhere is /etc/sysconfig/iptables in ubuntu 14.0408:23
gagaliciousand how do i use iptables instead of ufw? what should i do? install iptables??08:23
Ben64gagalicious: iptables should already be installed08:24
gagaliciousso what should i do?08:25
gagaliciousif i disable ufw, does iptables still work?08:25
bubbasauresgagalicious, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo08:25
Ben64ufw is just a frontend to iptables, use whatever you want08:25
jamie_....okay... that was not a good idea08:25
nithinmy Micro sd card is not getting mounted (i tried in my mobile laptop) could any one please help08:26
gagaliciousufw .. for me is adding complications to iptables.08:26
Ben64nithin: plug it in, wait 10 seconds, and then pastebin the output of "dmesg"08:26
undecimjamie_, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' should give you the same menu again to switch back08:26
Ben64gagalicious: like i've said, use iptables then08:26
jamie_yea... i am currently in cinnamon right now..... had to use non gui08:27
gagaliciousservice iptables restart,,,,iptables: unrecognized service08:27
gagalicioushow to restart iptables in ubuntu 14.04?08:27
nithinBen64 "then pastebin the output of "dmesg"" could you please explain wat to do i couldnt understand08:27
gagaliciouscan i add to /etc/init.d/iptables from centos 6? i copy and paste?08:27
undecimjamie_, maybe KDM is doing the same thing KDE is to trigger?08:27
Ben64nithin: open a terminal, type "dmesg" , copy the text that comes out, probably only the last 20 lines or so are relevant, go to pastebin.com, put it in there, submit, then give the resulting link here08:28
jamie_undecim: lol think i should try gdm?08:28
Ben64gagalicious: ubuntu doesn't work the same way as redhat based distros08:28
bazhanggagalicious, try in #netfilter08:28
undecimjamie_, Eh, why not? it's even more of a long shot than KDM08:28
gagaliciousyes i know08:28
gagaliciousi'm transitioning from centos to ubuntu08:29
gagaliciousvery difficult08:29
jamie_well while im at it why not.... I already know to to fix it to default if i need to... lol08:29
bazhanggagalicious, try gufw then its the gui for ufw08:29
nithinBen64, [  598.345384] sd 34:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk08:29
nithin[  831.264600] usb 2-1.1: USB disconnect, device number 1208:29
nithin[  939.618701] usb 2-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 15 using ehci-pci08:29
nithin[  939.874844] usb 2-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 16 using ehci-pci08:29
nithin[  939.968836] usb 2-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=14cd, idProduct=121f08:29
nithin[  939.968846] usb 2-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=3, SerialNumber=208:29
gagaliciousi'm ysing command line ... operating server08:29
gagaliciousbasicailyl centos to ubuntu server08:29
Ben64nithin: really? i even explained fully how to go to pastebin.com :|08:29
undecimjamie_, well I'm about go to sleep08:30
gagaliciouscan u guys tell me how do i do service iptables restart in ubuntu 14.04 server/08:30
Ben64gagalicious: its not a service08:30
jamie_undecim: actually I have an odd idea... there is no way to launch a seperate desktop enviroment from kdm unless you ue the non gui08:30
bubbasauresgagalicious, You miss the link?08:30
undecimjamie_, okay08:30
jamie_well gonna try these ideas... either way i still have 3 desktop environments i just try to keep current with all of them... i can live... go to sleep man, thanks for the help though08:31
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undecimjamie_, You might also be able to change some driver settings in Xorg.conf08:31
undecimjamie_, Anything that might change the state of the graphics card is a potential workaround/clue to what's going on08:32
gagaliciousi read the link08:32
undecimgood night, all08:32
gagaliciousdidnt say anything i need08:32
undecimjamie_, /msg me if you find a solution08:32
jamie_undecim: i have to drop off here to test these either way, and im not gonna go through all that touble for a 4th desktop enviroment08:32
bubbasaureshmm a official ubuntu wiki, imagine that08:32
jamie_undecim: okay, i am kinda intreiged though why it doesnt work08:32
nithinBen64, i have done that please find the resultant link: http://pastebin.com/0bK3GqJf08:33
jamie_but have a good night08:33
Ben64nithin: seems like you have a damaged or otherwise corrupted or deleted card08:33
nithinBen64, what can i do to recover it?08:34
Ben64nithin: you can make an image of it using ddrescue and seeing if you can recover any data using testdisk/photorec08:34
nithinBen64, could you please give a detailed explanation on what to be done08:35
Ben64nithin: 1. use ddrescue to make an image of the card, putting it on your hard drive or something else 2. use testdisk and/or photorec to try to recover any files08:36
Ben64nithin: more information here -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery08:37
gagaliciousiptables: Bad rule (does a matching rule exist in that chain?).08:42
gagaliciouswhy?08:42
Platypus-Manapt-get tells me that I have broken packages, and it turns out one of my packages depends on "libperl5.14" which I have no install candidate for with my defualt Ubuntu PPAs, anyone know which PPA I can add to get it?08:55
Ben64Platypus-Man: PPAs aren't supported here08:56
Platypus-Manok, whatever else makes apt-get work then.. I really have no clue what I'm doing08:57
Ben64Platypus-Man: what version of ubuntu08:57
Platypus-Manthink it might be 14.10, perhaps 14.04.. any way to check via commandline?08:58
Ben64lsb_release -d08:58
Platypus-ManI did a dist-upgrade though (was recommended do-release-upgrade, but that didn't work for me)08:59
Platypus-Man14.04.1 LTS08:59
SeveasPlatypus-Man: there's no such thing as 'default ppa'. By default there are no PPA's enabled.09:00
Ben64libperl5.14 is not in 14.04, you got some weird stuff going on, probably mixing PPAs for other releases of Ubuntu, sounds bad09:00
Seveas!info perl trusty09:00
ubottuperl (source: perl): Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.18.2-2ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 2122 kB, installed size 11509 kB09:01
Seveasyeah, 5.18. You added some PPA's for saucy or raring09:01
Seveastime to ppa-purge :)09:01
Platypus-Manso... any way to upgrade to 14.10 or do I need to re-install? as mentioned, I was recommended to do apt-get do-release-upgrade but that didn't work for me09:01
Ben6414.04 is not the problem09:02
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Ben64Platypus-Man: pastebin the outputs of "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"09:03
SeveasPlatypus-Man: first you need to purge the broken packages09:03
Seveasotherwise apt-get won't be able to do much09:03
Mathishey09:04
Seveashi Mathis09:04
darkvi0l3thi09:04
MathisI am trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 on a UEFI system (in secure mode)... I downloaded the ISO file and burned it on DVD... the UEFI cannot boot from it, what did I do wrong?09:06
Platypus-Mansudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9766197/ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/9766203/09:07
Seveas!uefi | Mathis09:08
ubottuMathis: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI09:08
Mathisthanks, I already know about UEFI09:08
Seveasso you have read that wikipage?09:08
Mathisthey wrote there for installing in secure mode, I have to set it in the UEFI setup and boot from that CD09:09
Mathisso I set Boot Mode: UEFI Win709:09
Mathisalso tried UEFI Win809:09
Mathisbut in both modes the CD drive is not shown in the boot manager09:09
MathisI even downloaded the ubuntu-14.04-amd64+mac.iso and used that09:10
Mathisinstalling in Legacy Win7 mode worked fine, btw09:11
GuyOnEDGEHi09:13
GuyOnEDGEHi09:13
tolditsaGuyOnEDGE: Hi09:13
darkvi0l3thi09:14
GuyOnEDGEHi09:15
darkvi0l3tdoes anyone know anything about multimonitor issues im in kubuntu 14.10 with kwin and the windows always load on the wrong screen09:16
colemanhey trying to install ubuntu, got it hooked via hdmi to a tv, but the sidebar and top menu are all out of frame, checked my display settings on the tv and it is set to full09:23
colemananythoughts?09:23
tolditsacoleman: it's called underscan. Does your tv have pc mode in settings09:24
Ben64overscan*09:25
colemannot thought i can find? its a panasonic 32 inch09:25
Ben64its not always easy to find09:25
tolditsacoleman: sometimes the setting is called different names. Go into tv settings and search.09:25
colemani did, not seeing anything related09:26
colemanits more of a resolution issue09:26
Ben64it isn't09:26
tolditsacoleman: look for 1:1 pixel setting maybe09:26
cluster_groupieis there no reliable wireless driver for ubuntu 14.04 on lenovo L440?09:28
OerHekscluster_groupie, wireless b/g/n ?09:28
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tolditsacoleman: find anything yet09:29
herkules2hal09:30
colemanno09:31
colemantv is an panasonic TC-l32u309:32
tolditsacoleman: Are you looking in settings of the TV.09:32
colemanyes09:32
colemanhit menu on the remote and poke around09:32
tolditsacoleman: if not found. What GPU do you have09:36
colemanits the intel, sec ill look up the exact09:38
Ben64"This TV hooked up to my PC's HDMI port without problems, and produces a crystal-clear, sharp picture. For people complaining about 'halos' around screen fonts etc., turn down the 'sharpness' setting in the picture settings. If you have overscan issues and the edges of the screen appear cut off, switch to 'HDMI2' mode in the settings and your screen will display properly."09:39
Ben64from amazon review of that tv09:39
colemanits not halos09:39
Ben64keep reading09:39
Nathan2055Alright, so I wanted to get KDE installed alongside Unity on 14.04.09:39
bazhangkubuntu-desktop package Nathan205509:40
Nathan2055I loaded the kubuntu-desktop package and it works great, except for a few problems.09:40
Nathan2055#1: It uses the Kubuntu logo for the start-up shutdown splash (not really a big problem, but still weird).09:40
tolditsacoleman: see if switching to hdmi mode 2 like Ben64 said. Not sure if he means switching ports on tv.09:41
Nathan2055#2: The font in Unity menus is wrong.09:41
Nathan2055How do I fix this?09:41
colemani tried port two, am lookinjg for that setting09:41
colemanoh man09:42
colemanthere was a sub menu i just completely was missing09:42
colemandamn09:42
colemanwell thank you!09:42
Ben64yay google-fu :D09:43
Nathan2055Should I switch to using kde-full instead?09:43
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ifahadHi every one09:45
bazhangNathan2055, you just to wish to see lightdm instead of kdm?09:45
PsilonuXHI, i am running software raid mdadm and suffering low write speeds (< 10 MB/s) on 12.04. I suspect a failing disk (WD Greens ..) . Smartctl doesnt show anything suspect. How can I test individual write speeds of the disks with dd, without messing up my data?09:45
tolditsaColeman that setting seems to be in HD aspect ratio.09:45
bazhangNathan2055, as for unity, try unity-tweak-tool09:46
bazhangPsilonuX, try in ##hardware09:47
PsilonuXk thx09:47
Nathan2055I'm really confused (may be because it's really late here, I most likely shouldn't be hacking at all). So lightdm doesn't load any particular libraries at startup?09:47
Nathan2055I would assume that the issue in Unity is KDE libraries being loaded at startup, right?09:47
bazhangNathan2055, you said you saw the kde greeter, thats not really a problem, but more of a preference, have it load ligthdm instead if you wish09:48
bazhangNathan2055, thats doubtful, try the unity-tweak-tool as suggested for that09:48
Nathan2055It was the Unity log-in screen, the only changed thing was that it started using Kubuntu splash screens.09:49
Nathan2055How can I change it to lightdm?09:49
bazhang!info galternatives | Nathan205509:51
ubottuNathan2055: galternatives (source: galternatives): graphical setup tool for the alternatives system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13.5+nmu3 (utopic), package size 23 kB, installed size 231 kB09:51
Nathan2055What would my root password be? It wasn't set during installation.09:55
Ben64there isn't one09:55
bazhangits the sudo one Nathan205509:55
Nathan2055Thanks.09:56
bazhangnp09:56
Nathan2055What setting would this be in galtternatives?09:56
bazhangkdm and lightdm09:57
bazhangupdate to the one you want, making sure both ar e installed, of course09:58
Nathan2055Nope...neither of those are in there.09:58
Nathan2055Maybe I'm missing a package...09:58
Nathan2055lightdm is installed, kdm isn't.09:59
bazhangwhat version of ubuntu are you on Nathan205509:59
Nathan205514.0409:59
colemanok, one last problem, trying to install teamviwer,09:59
colemanjust fails with no error09:59
PrezidentHi guys, i recently upgraded to 14.04 and im really happy withit, but there is a problem i got, when i do "sudo reboot" it gets freezed in ubuntu logo screen and i has to press on buttonf or poweroff10:00
Prezidentany ideas?10:00
bazhang!info teamviewer10:00
ubottuPackage teamviewer does not exist in utopic10:00
bazhangteamviewer installed from where coleman10:00
colemandownloaded it from there website10:00
pipi-teamviewer is closed source innit? so from their website im sure10:01
Ben64coleman: i'd recommend using something in the ubuntu repositories instead of teamviewer10:01
bazhangcoleman, so follow their install instructions we dont know that here10:01
Nathan2055Should I install kdm?10:01
colemanmy question more was is there a log that will tell me why the deb is failing10:01
colemanbut thanks10:01
bazhangNathan2055, by all accounts, your own, you have it already10:02
Nathan20554:59:41 AM <Nathan2055> lightdm is installed, kdm isn't.10:02
pipi-coleman: did you try installing it from command line? sudo dpkg -i teamviewer*.deb10:02
bazhangNathan2055, yet you said you see the kde greeter screen10:02
Nathan2055I said I saw the KDE *splash screen*. i.e. it says Kubuntu instead on Ubuntu when booting.10:03
Nathan2055I still get the Unity log-in screen.10:03
bazhangNathan2055, not sure what the problem is then10:04
Nathan2055Alright. I'll mess with it tomorrow when I'm in my right mind.10:05
herensugeNathan2055: do you want kdm ?10:06
rrr_why it takes 10mins to half an hour to install ubuntu while I can spin a droplet VM from digitalocean within 55 secs?10:13
bazhangten minutes is very fast10:14
bazhangone is on actual hw, the other a vm10:15
pipi-rrr_: probably because its different hardware. pre-installed vm on great hardware is not the same thing as manually installing on consumer hardware10:17
bekksrrr_: Because the "droplet VM" is preinstalled, and just needs to be configured.10:21
PrezidentHi guys, i recently upgraded to 14.04 and im really happy withit, but there is a problem i got, when i do "sudo reboot" it gets freezed in ubuntu logo screen and i has to press on buttonf or poweroff! Any ideas about this bug?10:22
rrr_bekks: I don't get it. actually I was installing as VM. I want the same thing as droplet. how do i do it in VM?10:26
mittPrezident: what if you click to reboot in Unity itself?10:26
Prezidentsame thing mitt10:27
PrezidentI saw on google its something with grub10:27
rrr_pipi-: why installing ubuntu requires internet connection? it is nonsense10:27
rrr_we have iso already.10:27
rrr_bazhang: doesn't the ubuntu ISO include everything needed?10:28
cfhowlettrrr_, .iso does not include updates10:29
rrr_cfhowlett: ok but let me install updates after installation ok?10:29
cfhowlettrrr_, sure.10:30
rrr_cfhowlett: but why internet connection is required during ubuntu installation?10:30
bazhangrrr_, its not10:30
lilstevierrr_, 2 main reasons, 1) the iso is mastered, but updates continue after, 2) proprietary bits require you to agree to a license before they are grabbed10:30
cfhowlettrrr_, it is NOT required, it's advised10:30
lilsteviehowever, you can still install without internet connection, it is just better to do it with the internet connected10:31
bekksrrr_: I have no cue what a "droplet" is, I just used the same term as you did. A vm is installed just the same way as real hardware.10:31
lilsteviebekks, a droplet is a digital ocean vm10:31
bekksAh, marketing buzzword then.10:31
lilstevierrr_, a digital ocean droplet is more than likely a template image, I haven't delved deep into how their side works, but you are more likely to find they have a bunch of disk images ready to go, when you order a droplet it just expands that image into the vm you are creating10:32
rrr_lilstevie: desktop ubuntu installation clearly states that internet connection is required before installation start.10:33
bekksrrr_: It doesnt.10:33
mittPrezident: GRUB is a bootloader, not "shutdowner"10:33
eaxxaeanyone have lollipop running on their samsung note 4 or other android device yet ?10:33
cfhowlettrrr_, non-connected install are done all the time10:33
bekksrrr_: And technically, it doesnt need an internet conection.10:33
lilstevierrr_, well I managed to install it without internet because the installer iso doesn't support my systems network devices10:34
mitteaxxae: offtopic10:34
rrr_lilstevie: can i do that same thing as digitalocean does when I create a new VM locally?10:35
lilstevierrr_, if you make the template sure.10:35
bekksrrr_: IF you know which virtualization technology they use, sure.10:35
lilstevieIIRC xen has the ability to template an entire image that you then use as a base image to create new vm10:36
eaxxaemitt: I use my phone with my ubuntu computer.. it's not entirely offtopic....10:36
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rrr_i am using virtualbox. can i do that using vbox?10:36
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rrr_I don't want the lengthy installation steps for each VM I created.10:37
mitteaxxae: okay, then what questions do you have?10:37
ljunggrenHi, because Unity is utilizing 3D card. would i gain some perfomance boost by installing proprietary drivers isntead of using open source ones?Just to get Unity a little more snappy?`Using AMD E-450 APU10:38
ljunggrenOr is that somehow related to gtkrendering etc?10:38
lilstevieeaxxae I have a tablet running 5.0, what is the problem you are having10:38
bazhangljunggren, the open source are quite good as is10:38
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eaxxaeI'm not having a problem... yet. I was just wondering if anyone running it had any issues yet ..10:39
ljunggrenbazhang: yes. i just mean latest catalyst software is ahead of open source in terms of gaming. my question is merely if it also give a little boost in enviorment? since Unity uses 3d acceleration to render?10:39
lilstevienone that I have noticed, but then I don't do much beyond adb and MTP10:39
lilstevierrr_ http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/articles/servers-storage-admin/howto-use-vb-templates-1695904.html10:39
bazhangljunggren, I would venture no to that10:40
ljunggrenbazhang: thank you.10:40
bazhangeaxxae, this is not the place for android support, try their channels10:40
bazhang!alis | eaxxae10:40
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lilstevieljunggren I exclusively use the open source drivers with due to slightly better performance and less glitching for regular desktop duties10:41
eaxxaeI wasn't asking for support, I was asking if anyone upgraded their device or got an OTA update for lollipop yet... anyone who understands what I'm saying would just say yes or no.10:42
cfhowletteaxxae, off-topic.10:42
bazhangeaxxae, its still not ontopic here at all10:42
Novice201yHello. I'm trying to setup VNC on Ubuntu Server, but for "update-rc.d vncserver defaults 99" I receive "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/vncserver missing LSB information".10:42
ljunggrenlilstevie: Yeah thanks. So if you don't game open source should be sufficient right? I feel a little paranoid i miss out on something not using  catalayst. Like power consumption etc. Guess not:)10:43
antoninociao10:43
antonino!list10:43
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eaxxaebazhang:  your opinion, isn't it ? I mean.. the phone is *nix based.. but yeah. noted.10:43
bazhangeaxxae, channel policy actually10:44
ljunggreneaxxae: still has nothing to do with Ubuntu10:44
eaxxaebazhang: where is the channel policy written.. love to read it.10:44
cfhowlett!topic | eaxxae10:44
ubottueaxxae: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic10:44
bazhangeaxxae, try /topic10:45
instigatorHello. I am using iptables and for some reason can not access any websites. What rule could you use to allow connection to websites?10:45
cfhowlett!guidelines |eaxxae enjoy10:45
ubottueaxxae enjoy: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines10:45
aaearoninstigator outbound to all on 80/443 ?10:45
lilstevieljunggren I find that using catalyst on my APU powered laptop uses more battery and glitches frequently (artifacting, screen taring, etc) for standard desktop stuff, I switch over only if I am planning on running games10:46
instigatoraaearon: my policy for output is set to accept10:47
ljunggrenlilstevie: too bad one has to choose. Alright then, im sticking with open source one on my laptop.10:47
aaearonprolly makes more sense to put the rules in a pastebin so we dont have to guess10:47
lilstevieaaearon a link is in the topic that you are shown on join10:47
aaearonok?10:48
eaxxaeso, who actually represents leadership if you had a question about something being ontopic or offtopic10:48
ljunggreneaxxae: this you are doing is also offtopic. Android lollipop has nothing to do with Ubuntu, try #ubuntu-offtopic instead10:48
lilstevieeaxxae it is a fairly simple test, does $topic have anything directly to do with ubuntu? if not off topic10:48
eaxxaelilstevie: ok, so..  asking if someone tested a specific piece of hardware, with their ubuntu computer.. would be offtopic ?10:50
eaxxaeubottu: much appreciated.. reading it now.10:52
ubottueaxxae: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:52
eaxxaelol.10:53
eaxxaecfhowlett, rather.10:53
cfhowletteaxxae, ><)10:54
eaxxaeCanonical has it's down phone thing going on, didn't even realize.10:56
bazhang!touch | eaxxae10:57
ubottueaxxae: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch10:57
AkivaAvrahamis this video on youtube playing wrong for anyone else? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofbWiDdkHuQ&list=PLA98272E43BA9AEDB&index=1811:00
AkivaAvrahamIt keeps skipping for me for some reason, but not other vids,11:00
AkivaAvrahamand the comments don't seem to reflect that there is anything wrong with this video.11:00
EriC^^AkivaAvraham: sometimes ctrl+f5 reloads the video correctly11:01
wonderworldvideo description says it's broken11:01
AkivaAvrahamhmmm strange11:01
AkivaAvrahamahhhhh didn't see that.11:01
AkivaAvraham!cookie | wonderworld11:02
ubottuwonderworld: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!11:02
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ropo_can u recommend me a channel  to learn java11:13
EriC^^ropo_: ##java11:14
AkivaAvrahamropo_, #learnprogramming11:14
AkivaAvrahamropo_, why do you want to learn java?11:14
ropo_hello11:14
bazhang##programming is the actual channel11:15
bazhang!alis | ropo_11:15
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AkivaAvrahamropo_, it is off topic, but you can also drop by #ubuntu-app-devel; that is where we do software development for ubuntu.11:15
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O_OniGiriiihi there11:18
O_OniGiriiidaftykins hi :D11:19
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiriii, o/ salutations11:19
O_OniGiriiifor how long havr you been using ubuntu?11:19
AkivaAvraham2006, you?11:20
O_OniGiriiiwowww11:20
O_OniGiriiii just wanted to learn a linux based OS11:20
AkivaAvrahamaww shucks :)11:20
O_OniGiriiibut it's so unstable11:21
cfhowlettO_OniGiriii, www.fullcirclemagazine.org11:21
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiriii, ah very cool11:21
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiriii, ubuntu is unstable?11:21
O_OniGiriiicfhowlett what is it?11:21
O_OniGiriiiAkivaAvraham how are you surviving with ubuntu?11:21
cfhowlettO_OniGiriii, download.  read.  learn.11:21
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiriii, I'm a developer. I love ubuntu for developing, just for its hud alone.11:21
O_OniGiriiieverythings breaks or has bugs11:22
AkivaAvrahamArch, mac, Windows; they don't have that feature.11:22
O_OniGiriiiAkivaAvraham yeah i want to use ubuntu for web dev11:22
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiriii, maybe you are running root to much?11:22
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiriii, oh very cool! You should come over to #ubuntu-app-devel11:22
O_OniGiriiiWhat is it about?11:22
AkivaAvrahamIf you are interested in html5; that would apply to you.11:23
O_OniGiridisconnected :(11:24
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, I saw that11:24
O_OniGirianyways... i installed skype11:24
O_OniGiriand it broke everything :(11:24
O_OniGiriI was using Xubuntu though... but it should be different right?11:24
AkivaAvrahamanyways #ubuntu-app-devel is where we develop applications for ubuntu, using primarily qml, c++, html5, go, among other languages.11:24
O_OniGirior is ubuntu more stable than xubuntu? its the same except the desktop env right?11:25
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, Yes I'd say it is. They are both officially supported though.11:25
O_OniGirii see, might look at it in the future11:25
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, skype, you got that from the skype website right?11:25
O_OniGiriyeah11:25
O_OniGiribut it was stuck and i couldnt force close it11:26
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, in that case, you are relying on microsoft to package for linux...11:26
O_OniGiriso i did sudo reboot11:26
AkivaAvrahamah11:26
O_OniGiriand then my whole system kinda broke11:26
O_OniGiriaudio didnt work11:26
O_OniGiriand internet was suddenly super slow11:27
O_OniGiriso this morning i used my window recovery11:27
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, that is really unfortunate to hear.11:27
O_OniGiribut im planning to install ubuntu as dual boot11:27
O_OniGiribut why is ubuntu more stable than xubuntu?11:28
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, good question. One reason is that the xfce interface does not have many developers actively working on it, like gnome kde or unity11:28
O_OniGirii see, that makes sense11:29
AkivaAvrahamit is only developed afaik by a few part time university students11:29
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, there was a discussion about it on the Linux Action show.11:29
O_OniGirii liked the 'lightweightness' of xfce11:29
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, Many people do. There is also lubuntu if you are interested.11:29
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, I like unity because of its most unused and hidden feature; the hud11:30
Ben64or gnome-fallback or whatever its called now11:30
O_OniGiriwhat desktop env does lubuntu use?11:30
Ben64lxde11:30
O_OniGiriis it more stable than xfce?11:30
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, I think so.11:30
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, i'm not a user of it though.11:30
O_OniGiribut well... next time i will just install ubuntu11:30
Ben64you can install whatever you want on ubuntu, you don't need to reinstall to try another desktop11:31
O_OniGirisince its probably more stable11:31
O_OniGiriwell, my laptop is pretty good, so it doesnt really matter that gnome is heavier11:32
O_OniGiribtw, people on internet are all eager to learn linux11:32
O_OniGiribut what do they mean with 'learning linux'?11:33
cfhowlettO_OniGiriii, ask them?11:33
O_OniGirii see many people recommending learning terminal11:33
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, that is a very interesting question11:33
O_OniGiribut it linux all about terminal?11:34
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, it can be.11:34
Ben64the terminal is very powerful and much easier to use than the windows command prompt11:34
O_OniGiricurrently i am following a course for linux though11:34
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, terminal is really important if you are a sys admin.11:34
pozitronterminal is faster than GUIs11:34
O_OniGirithe one on edX11:34
Ben64O_OniGiri: if you don't have any ubuntu support issues, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place for chatting11:35
O_OniGiriAhh sorry Ben6411:35
O_OniGiribye guys :)11:36
Ben64O_OniGiri: not a big deal, but with 1500+ people in here, we try to stick to the topic pretty well11:36
O_OniGiriYeah I understand11:36
AkivaAvrahamO_OniGiri, drop by #ubuntu-app-devel some time!11:36
O_OniGiriwill do ;)11:36
AkivaAvrahamo/11:36
* A124 lives in termnal11:36
ankur?11:44
AleksaHelp! Firefox got infected. Sometimes it redirects some web sites to unknown spam (for example: http://filestore321.com/)11:46
rrr_lilstevie: thanks for the link11:46
AleksaI have noticed it yesterday11:46
AleksaAnd I thought that I must've clicked on something11:46
AkivaAvrahamAleksa, :O11:46
eaxxaeAleksa: apt-get remove firefox, apt-get install firefox .. or use the GUI package manager11:46
AleksaNow I realise I didn't click anything11:46
OerHeksAleksa, easy to fix, close firefox, and remove ~/.mozilla/firefox11:46
AkivaAvrahamAleksa, is it one of your addons?11:47
rrr_what is the difference between ubuntu desktop, ubuntu server, ubuntu cloud?11:47
AleksaAkivaAvraham, no addon recently installed11:47
Aleksabtw, purging it doesn't help11:47
OerHeksAleksa, then use clam-av to scan your system11:47
eaxxaeI'd uninstall and reinstall.. not go into terminal and find the user's profile.... you can delete the wrong folder..11:47
AleksaI'll try removing .mozilla11:47
eaxxaenoobs in terminal, always leads to trouble...11:48
Aleksaeaxxae, only one user on my PC11:48
Aleksabesides root11:48
eaxxaeAleksa: random pop-ups might not be firefox related.. you could have a worm or something.  I'd backup anything important and reinstall... if the code was smart enough to modify firefox at the user level... it could have escalated privledges to root. BUT, I do get called paranoid a lot11:50
Aleksaremove or purge firefox?11:53
boodllebatHello I recently wrote an small application for Gnome and Unity Env under Gtk 3 It would be great if you take a look and give me feedback I have hosted it on Github Here is the video Demo https://vid.me/mgqy and here is the github link https://github.com/argunner/StickFace211:53
OerHeksAleksa, no need to remove firefox, do those 2 steps first11:53
OerHeksboodllebat, wrong channel for testing and opinions, try #ubuntu-offtopic please11:54
AleksaOerHeks, ok, I removed .mozilla/firefox11:54
AleksaNow, how do I scan using clam-av? It ain't installed I guess11:55
eaxxaethey say ain't in russia ?11:56
Aleksaeaxxae, I'm from South Europe - Serbia, not Russia.11:56
Aleksaso it's my bad english11:56
eaxxaeit's not bad, just informal.. they say it in parts of the US11:57
eaxxaeI grew up saying it11:57
OerHekssudo apt-get install clamav clamtk # and run the updater first, keep firefox closed11:57
OerHekshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/250290/how-do-i-scan-for-viruses-with-clamav11:57
Aleksamy fingers were faster :( Now I must wait for synaptic to be installed :(11:57
AleksaOerHeks, I must wait few minutes until I could open that link :)11:58
AleksaI'm wondering where did that Russia-thing come from. Maybe from output of the command whois that says I'm on channel ubuntu-rs (rs as Republic Serbia, not as Russia)12:00
AleksaI guess ru is for russia12:00
AkivaAvrahamAleksa, Also go to #firefox, and tell them that you got a virus on linux from their browser.12:01
AkivaAvrahamthey ought to be mighty interested in that. Viruses aren't supposed to be common on linux.12:01
eaxxaeAleksa: the nick.. and the IP ... when I hover my mouse on a nick, said RIPE-RU12:01
OerHekson't call it a virus, just a browser hijack12:01
eaxxaeis where I got russia12:01
OerHeks*don't12:01
Aleksaok12:02
eaxxaeOerHeks: how do you know what it is at this point ?12:02
MonkeyDusta virus?12:03
MonkeyDusthow exciting! what does it do?12:03
eaxxaeexploits firefox.. and opens ads/spam for the click-thru profits ?12:03
eaxxaethis guy said just remove the profile... if my browswer was opening random tabs and windows on trusted domains... I'd refresh the pc.. period.  20 years experience.12:04
eaxxaelike it's some add-on... for sure, 100%, theres no way to know that....12:04
MonkeyDustdeleting the ~/.cache folder should solve that issue12:04
Wagihi have a problem installing ubuntu on my laptop12:05
cfhowlett!details | Wagih explain12:05
ubottuWagih explain: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)12:05
OerHeksMonkeyDust +1 cache is also a good thing to remove12:05
Wagihok :)12:05
Wagihi have ubuntu 14.10 14.04 , 12.0412:06
Wagihtried to install them all with no luck12:06
Wagihfirst12:06
Wagihthe installation hangs12:06
Wagihwhen i press any keyboard button12:06
OerHeksWagih, easy on the enter, buddy, please keep it in one line12:06
Wagihso i just use the touch pad or on-screen keyboard12:06
WagihSorry :$12:07
cfhowlettWagih, your hardware??? and STOP USING <enter>12:07
Wagihok12:07
WagihLaptop Dell XPS 15z, core i7-2640M CPU 2.8. HDD 750 GB, Tried to Install Ubuntu 14.10,14.04, 12.04 but with no luck, all of them just hang when i press any keyboard letter, so i just use the touch pad, 2ndly when it comes to installation it just stops with /dev/sda input/output error12:10
cfhowlettWagih, this is from the USB or the hard drive??"12:11
Wagihcfhowlett, i m trying to install it from USB12:11
cfhowlettWagih, SAME usb?  :_12:12
Wagihi m trying to install from usb to HDD12:12
eaxxaeWagih:  did you check the laptop hardware against the supported hardware list ?12:12
eaxxaehave you tried using an external USB keyboard ?12:13
cfhowlettWagih, try a different USB12:13
Wagiheaxxae, no where can i check that, tried it but i doesnt  even light up12:13
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Wagihcfhowlett, do you mean a different USB flash drive ?12:14
eaxxaeif you plugged in the keyboard.. and the LED lights don't come on.. either the laptop's usb port is bad, or the keyboard is bad, try another one... this sounds like a hardware issue12:14
cfhowlettWagih, this ^^^12:14
OerHeksWagih, maybe this anser is any help http://askubuntu.com/questions/540720/setting-up-hybridgraphics-on-dell-xps-15z-l511z-ubuntu-14-0412:14
AleksaOerHeks> sudo apt-get install clamav clamtk # and run the updater first, keep firefox closed12:14
Aleksathe latest firefox installed12:15
eaxxaelinux runs on a toaster, it should work... if it has an i7 especially.... you might need to go into the BIOS and enable usb emulation and legacy support, I had to do that on a few laptops12:15
Wagihthe port is working i boot from it and the keyboard is working on my pc :D12:15
AleksaShould I use firefox now for checking the link that shows me how to run that AV?12:15
WagihOerHeks, i m checking12:15
OerHeksAleksa, use the clamtk icon in your menu, or run manually sudo freshclam12:16
BluesKaj'Morning all12:20
eaxxaewhy is he running an antivirus... removing the profile didn't work ?12:20
Aleksano, I'm running it after removing the profile12:20
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Aleksanow that removing firefox profile Google asks for security code sent via SMS, I don't trust Google security anymore12:24
AleksaI thought it's somewhere stored on their server (some signature of PC, I don't know)12:24
Ben64uh, its because you removed the profile12:24
MonkeyDustAleksa  microsoft does that too12:24
Aleksabut storing it locally on firefox profile, omg!12:25
Ben64um... no12:26
AleksaVirus scanner runs still12:27
Aleksathreats found: 112:27
AleksaI'm excited12:27
WagihLaptop Dell XPS 15z, core i7-2640M CPU 2.8. HDD 750 GB, Tried to Install Ubuntu 14.10,14.04, 12.04 but with no luck, all of them just hang when i press any keyboard letter, so i just use the touch pad, 2ndly when it comes to installation it just stops with /dev/sda input/output error, tried diff. USB Drives, External Keyboards arent working but never mind i'm using on-screen keyboard, tried to fromat the HDD using Disk Utility got the12:32
Wagihtried also editing the boot menu acpi=off & acpi=noirq with no help12:32
Wagih"error erasing helper exited with exit code 1 in part_del_partition" tried this solution "sudo swapoff /dev/sda" but get erorr invalid arg.  ***12:33
XTREME-Hplease help vlc is not installing on my ubuntu 14.0412:34
MonkeyDustXTREME-H  what happens when you try12:36
minimecXTREME-H: o you get any specific error message? "sudo apt-get install vlc"12:36
XTREME-Hi am installing it from software centre12:36
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MonkeyDustXTREME-H  what goes wrong during the installation?12:37
minimecXTREME-H: consider an installation via terminal. Open a terminal with <ctrl><alt>t, then 'sudo apt-get install vlc'12:38
XTREME-Hi have an error requires instalation from untrusted packages12:38
XTREME-Hi click repair12:38
xutlmobile broadband disappeared and not coming back in network manager menu after disconnecting 3g dongle12:39
XTREME-Hthen another error check your internet connection12:39
BluesKajWagih, still have windows 8 , and are you using it ? if so check out the UEFI tutorial http://zeroset.mnim.org/2014/10/26/unable-to-boot-into-ubuntu-14-10-utopic-unicorn-after-upgrade/12:40
minimecXTREME-H: Did you add some repositories yourself? You shouldn't have that 'untrusted' repo message with the official ubuntu repositories.12:41
XTREME-Hno i didn't but know i am installing it from terminal12:42
MonkeyDustXTREME-H  open a terminal and type    sudo apt-get update|pastebinit     then paste the url here12:42
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WagihBluesKaj will check it but my laptop have no system right now12:44
fred_hi, can someone help me with a command that i forgot?12:45
XTREME-HMonkeyDust: i have that error permission and 13 ...... i closed my software centre12:45
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Guest22880how can i launch a program in a proxy using http_proxy via command line?12:46
MonkeyDustXTREME-H  when do you get that error message?12:46
XTREME-Hwhen apt-get update12:46
tarelerulzDo Ubuntu auto config for  SSD  or you need to do a bunch of configing ?12:46
MonkeyDustXTREME-H  open a terminal and type    sudo apt-get update|pastebinit     then paste the url here12:46
XTREME-Hthere is a huge error i will PM you12:48
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minimecXTREME-H: You may have to install 'pastebinit'. It is not installed as default.12:48
BluesKajWagih, do you have gparted on any media like a usb or cd?  Looks like you need to create some linux/ext4 partitions on your hard drive12:50
WagihBluesKaj ok12:53
WagihBluesKaj, but the disk utlity isnt working i ca try from Hirens CD12:54
AleksaSecurity threats: 912:54
xutlmobile broadband disappeared and not coming back in network manager menu after disconnecting and reconnecting 3g dongle12:55
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MonkeyDustAleksa  make a screenshot and paste it here12:56
MonkeyDustAleksa  http://imgur.com/12:57
Aleksadamn prt scr12:59
xutlhelp --> mobile broadband disappeared and not coming back in network manager menu after disconnecting and reconnecting 3g dongle12:59
WagihBluesKaj, Used gparted to create linux-swap 12GB , and another partition ext4 200GB will try to install now13:03
BluesKajWagih, ok13:04
LPG1Good morning!13:05
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WagihBluesKaj, in the installation when i choose where to install , i choose "something else..." but it doesnt view my partitions13:08
Aleksaguys, nine threats! http://imgur.com/R2NtaQB13:08
AleksaI can't believe it13:08
FBIWagih: I would do a seperate / and /home13:08
BluesKajWagih, use manual partitioning13:08
cfhowlettclear13:09
ovrflw0xFBI, is it --> Forgetful Boring Idiot?13:09
xutlhelp --> mobile broadband disappeared and not coming back in network manager menu after disconnecting and reconnecting 3g dongle13:10
AleksaMonkeyDust, the link from scan: http://imgur.com/R2NtaQB13:10
MonkeyDustAleksa  type    rm -r ~/.cache     to solve the problem13:11
ovrflw0xhuh?13:11
minimecWagih: I would only do two partitions, '/' and '/home'. I do NOT use a separate swap anymore. I either install zram-config for 'swap in RAM' or create a swap file. 12GB of swap is overkill... That's enaugh for a full linux system partition... ;)13:11
MonkeyDustAleksa  all the threats are situated in the cache, so delete the cache file13:11
MonkeyDustfolder*13:12
AleksaMonkeyDust, could someone analyse it? For example, firefox guys?13:12
cfhowlettgoogle it.  first hit.  don't be lazy.13:13
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MonkeyDustAleksa  analyzing firefox 'threats' is beyond the scope of this channel13:13
Aleksaok13:13
BluesKajminimec, let's just let him get ubuntu installed right now , the fewer distractions , the better , besides he has a 750G drive, plenty of room13:14
ovrflw0xcfhowlett, google it'.' first hit'.' don't be lazy'.'    why do you use periods so much that makes you sound smarter? ;)13:17
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ovrflw0xhuh?13:18
ovrflw0xk. bye. i go. later. see ya.13:19
OerHeksAleksa, just remove thet ~/.cache/firefox folder too, that should solve13:20
Guest43053goddamnit does anyone know how to open tools in iceweasel13:28
Guest43053the enitre toolbar is missing :S13:28
MonkeyDustGuest43053  no profane language here, please13:28
EriC^^Guest43053: are you in unity?13:28
OerHeksiceweasel is not in the repos13:32
OerHeksmaybe the toolbar is on the top panel, not sure13:33
cfhowlettper wikipedia, iceweasel is no longer maintained ... icecat is the current brand13:33
cfhowletthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat13:34
EriC^^firefox says Provides: gnome-www-browser, iceweasel, www-browser13:35
Guest43053ok it is driving me mad, the stuff like , EDIT VIEW TOOLS is just gone :S13:35
OerHeksLoLz13:36
xtpeepsCan't log in my college web by line, anyone can handle this?13:36
EriC^^www-browser works, iceweasel says command not found13:36
EriC^^Guest43053: try pressing tab13:36
EriC^^*alt13:36
EriC^^oh ok, www-browser opens elinks13:36
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  sounds like a question for your college's web administrator13:36
Guest43053EriC^^: thank you sir, you are a genius13:37
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: Should I connecte the administrator?13:37
EriC^^Guest43053: no problem13:38
dominiqu1hi13:42
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: I can touch the web in my Windows system, but can't in Ubuntu.13:42
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  i missed that part in your question13:43
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  what happens when you try13:43
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xtpeepsMonkeyDust: Let me see, wait a min13:45
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  and how do you try it13:46
damnmehi13:47
TrivialGravitasI have a fresh install and no swap partition13:47
TrivialGravitasthe partition is there but not recognized13:47
damnmei need mixed library for lcd2*1613:48
MonkeyDustTrivialGravitas  try   sudo swapon -a13:48
TrivialGravitas"swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: stat failed: No such file or directory"13:48
MonkeyDustencrypted swap13:49
TrivialGravitasI've seen this before and fixed it by reformatting swap, but it won't work now13:49
BluesKajTrivialGravitas, then use gparted to the swap on13:49
BluesKajturn13:49
TrivialGravitasKDE13:49
TrivialGravitasDoesn't work13:49
TrivialGravitasUnless gparted has features the KDE partition manager doesn't?13:49
BluesKaj!doesn't work13:50
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)13:50
TrivialGravitasI mean the partition manager refuses to do anything at all with the swap partition, all options are greyed out13:50
artisanIndiacan anyone suggest me a good http debugger for ubuntu ?13:50
damnme i need mixed library for lcd2*1613:51
artisanIndialike substitute for fiddler on ubuntu13:51
BluesKajTrivialGravitas, then you probly already have more than 4 primary partitions13:51
TrivialGravitasI have 313:51
TrivialGravitasroot, swap, home13:51
BluesKajdo you have windows ?13:51
TrivialGravitasno13:52
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: I just wanna connect the internet by wired ,and I dial-up in windows  ,now ,I can't connect by wired.13:52
xutlhelp --> mobile broadband disappeared and not coming back in network manager menu after disconnecting and reconnecting 3g dongle13:53
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  dial up? you mean like the old days? can you reach any other url?13:53
MonkeyDustTrivialGravitas  what's the outcome of    sudo blkid|pastebinit13:54
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: nonono ,like VPN13:54
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  that's a lot of details you didnt mention... now, start from the beginning13:55
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wafflejockartisanIndia, not sure what fiddler is... are you looking for something like POSTMan chrome application?13:57
wafflejockartisanIndia, or perhaps Charles Web Debugging proxy13:57
artisanIndiano sure what POSTMan is13:58
artisanIndiafiddler is web debugging proxy you can say13:58
artisanIndiait tracks all the http request a website sent out13:58
TrivialGravitasMonkeyDust, That i don't have pastebinit, gimme a bit, other stuff installing as we speak13:58
wafflejockartisanIndia, yeah Charles Web debugging proxy does the same and lets you repeat/modify requests and man in the middle on SSL13:59
wafflejockartisanIndia, it looks like Fiddler has a linux/os x compatible build using mono too http://fiddler.wikidot.com/mono13:59
artisanIndiak14:00
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: okey~now I connect up the wire line.14:00
wafflejockartisanIndia, POSTMan is for crafting requests to particular URLs and seeing the response, it's good for building and manually testing APIs14:00
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: but I can't connect the web.14:00
artisanIndiahaving a look on postman14:01
artisanIndiawill that work on chromium too ?14:01
artisanIndiainstalling14:02
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  you can connect, but can't connect the web? meaning?14:02
wafflejockartisanIndia, think so I usually use regular chrome for dev but have chromium on here too14:02
wafflejockartisanIndia, had some font rendering issues on chromium wasn't looking as nice for a while there so I switched to regular Chrome most of the time14:03
artisanIndiaok14:03
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: I connected the wire line ..14:03
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  you mean the physical cable?14:04
shezhawtubuntu is awesome14:04
artisanIndiawafflejock what do you code ?14:04
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: yes that's it14:04
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: physical cable14:04
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  ok, can you ping www.ubuntu.com14:05
wafflejockartisanIndia, lots of AngularJS using PHP/Eloquent/Slim/MySQL server side usually, started recently playing with SailsJS (node/express/ORM)14:05
wafflejockartisanIndia, should keep only support topics in this chat though, join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat, I'm in #programmers and #angularjs right now too14:06
artisanIndiaok sorry for that14:06
shezhawtwazzup ladies ?14:06
wafflejockartisanIndia, no worries just don't want to get in the way of support conversations14:06
MonkeyDustshezhawt  wrong channel14:06
artisanIndiak k14:06
artisanIndiadafuq shezhawt14:06
shezhawtMonkeyDust, ubuntu has a lot of hot chicks14:07
shezhawtI saw in an event14:07
jerrcsThose were their mothers.14:07
shezhawtlol14:07
shezhawtno14:07
OerHeks!ot | shezhawt jerrcs14:07
wafflejock!ot14:07
ubottushezhawt jerrcs: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:07
jerrcsI actually believe that was on-topic, thanks OerHeks and wafflejock.14:08
wafflejockas funny as that is... keep the chat to support and keep the language tame, there may be kids in here14:08
shezhawtOerHeks, you are a bore14:08
jerrcsThere was nothing wrong with my language.14:08
wafflejockshezhawt, go to #ubuntu-offtopic lots of playing htere14:08
jerrcsIs the English language not permitted for use in here?14:08
wafflejockjerrcs, nothing wrong with your language no, was referring to artisanIndia14:08
esterbuonasera14:08
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: it says "destination host unreachable"14:08
shezhawtok fine tell me guys, who wrote the Ubuntu ?14:08
shezhawtI would like to thanks him14:09
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  ok, that's bad... sure the cable itself is ok?14:09
shezhawtits free of cost and opensource14:09
jerrcsOK. Anyway, my girlfriend uses Ubuntu, so I would agree there are attractive girls who use it.14:09
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: yea the lingts on14:09
shezhawtjerrcs, ok, she has a friend ?14:09
wafflejockshezhawt, lots of developers have contributed to Ubuntu, Mark Shuttleworth is the figurehead and owner of Canonical that makes this particular distribution of open source code14:09
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  can you ping the router?14:09
TrivialGravitasMonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9767476/14:09
jerrcsshezhawt: You should perhaps read the Wikipedia page to get up to speed.14:09
Guest43053lol ubuntu is my GF14:10
MonkeyDustTrivialGravitas  idd, no swap14:10
shezhawtwafflejock, Is there an official book to learn Ubuntu ?14:11
jerrcsOfficial book? What..?14:11
MonkeyDust!manual | shezhawt14:11
ubottushezhawt: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/14:11
wafflejockshezhawt, no not one official book I have like 4 on my shelf, the manual there is a good free starting point though14:11
TrivialGravitasThat would be the problem I started with.  Good news though, installed gparted, apparently it's just the KDE partition manager that has the problem14:12
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: :( the same14:12
TrivialGravitasworks now14:12
shezhawtwafflejock, ok14:12
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: ....unreachable14:12
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  ok, it must be in your network config files then, i guess14:12
shezhawtjerrcs, also Nixie Pixel's video inspired me to use Ubuntu14:13
jerrcsNixie's an interesting girl. I like her videos.14:13
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: so ...what's the next ?14:13
wafflejockshezhawt, heh yeah Nixie makes some good stuff IMO helps bring Linux to the people14:13
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  what's the output of   cat /etc/network/interfaces|pastebinit14:13
jerrcsHowever, just because an attractive girl tells you to use Ubuntu doesn't mean you should use it. There's various distributions, all catering to different needs. Linux is not a a "one size fits all" type of OS.14:14
wafflejockMonkeyDust, you can also pass the file as an arg to pastebinit just FYI14:15
WagihFBI , BluesKaj , minimec i used manual partitioning but it hangs with the mouse cursor loading14:15
BluesKajTrivialGravitas, Kubuntu 14.10? if so the KDE partition manager works fine here. Perhaps you need to update upgrade and dist-upgrade to complete your install14:15
wafflejockjerrcs, no but Ubuntu does offer a relatively easy to adjust to environment for most people coming from Windows or OS X, once they get more familiar with how Linux works and other distributions and get more informed they can decide what's best for them14:15
shezhawtwafflejock, no here ..... brings people to her and then linux14:16
shezhawther*14:16
FBIWagih: try the text mode installer, it is somewhat less buggy14:16
xtpeeps#interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8)and ifdown(8)   auto lo  iface lo net loopback.14:17
BluesKajWagih, wireless mouse and KB ?14:17
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: #interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8)and ifdown(8)   auto lo  iface lo net loopback.14:18
jerrcswafflejock: again, it depends on the experience level and needs. i found nixie's videos after knowing a fair bit about the OS already.14:18
wafflejockshezhawt, join me over in #ubuntu-offtopic so we can keep this channel open for people asking for or doing support and we can chat there14:18
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: I didn't install pastebinit14:18
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  no, paste this line in a terminal   cat /etc/network/interfaces|pastebinit14:19
MonkeyDustah14:19
WagihBluesKaj, no wireless kb & mouse14:19
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  do you have acces to the web, other than with the cable?14:19
WagihFBI, how go to the text mode installer14:19
FBIWagih: the alternate install image aka netinstall image14:20
BluesKajWagih, try using the touchpad instead of the connected mouse14:20
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: WiFi?14:20
WagihBluesKaj, i m using the touchpad and it's working fine14:21
WagihFBI ok will download it14:21
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  yes14:22
xtpeepsI paste the line in the terminal but it says"I didn't install pastebinit"14:22
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: okay now14:23
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: by wifi14:23
raminhi14:24
xtpeepsShould I atp-get pastebinit ,I'm doing this14:24
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  ok, now install pastebinit14:25
Ivenywow14:25
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: OK, OK. Then I get:http://paste.Ubuntu.com/9767548/14:26
xtpeepsWhat's this meaning14:27
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  lo is loopback ... now: cat /etc/resolv.conf|pastebinit14:28
bipulI would like to know, apart of testing,debugging and writing. Any other team? Like the one who write codes in C.14:29
bipulWhere i can get them?14:29
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: another website: http://paste.Ubuntu.com/9767566/14:29
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  i wonder why you can connect by wifi and not by cable, usually it's the other way round14:31
xtpeepsOmg,it seems my server was setting127.0.1.114:31
MonkeyDustxtpeeps try this, moment ...14:31
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  sudo -e /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base14:32
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  and change the nameserver's address14:32
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: how to write ^o14:34
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  what's your editor?14:34
xtpeepsVi14:34
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  ok, press i to insert text, when you're ready, type : and then wq14:35
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  ok, press i to insert text, when you're ready, typeesc, then : and then wq14:35
wonderworldi have a 3g modem in my notebook. is it possible to use it as a cell phone too? like placing normal calls from my comp?14:36
xtpeepsMonkeyDust:here`s a problem that I seems get in a GNU nano ,how I quite this14:37
bipulwonderworld, what exactly you wants to do with your notebook. And what it has to do with ubuntu OS?14:37
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  nano is a different editor, use ctrl x to exit it14:38
FBIxtpeeps: it says so at the bottom of the screen14:38
FBIit says ^X Exit14:38
FBI^O WriteOut14:39
FBI^G Get Help14:39
bipulxtpeeps, Use gedit , it's gnome supported. And easy to do any text task on it.14:39
MonkeyDustFBI  don't confuse people while they are struggling, please14:39
bipulCTRL + X hit enter.14:39
FBIMonkeyDust: uhm, how is this confusing?14:39
FBIMonkeyDust: how is pointing people to the button to press confusing?14:40
FBInow I'm confused :/14:40
bipulxtpeeps, It's really simple to get out from "nano" editor. What you need to do is to press both [ctrl + x]14:41
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: should I use :vi /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base14:41
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  yes14:42
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  i mean: yes, that file, with the editor of your choice14:42
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MonkeyDustxtpeeps  and put sudo in front of the command, or you can't write14:43
faLUCEhello, can you suggest me a MINIMAL text editor with: 1) I can choose default font 2) I can apply bold and italic to this font.14:43
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: oh,too bad it seems an empty file:/14:43
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  ok, now add: nameserver [ip address of your router]14:44
Zero_WorkHi, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and it freezes after attempting to login14:44
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: BTW, what's the nameserver14:44
Zero_WorkI can still drop to a virtual term14:44
bipul!info ubuntu 14.0414:45
ubottu'14.04' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed14:45
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  usually it's 192.168.1.1 or so14:45
Zero_WorkUbuntu 14.0414:45
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  i guess the command 'dig' shows it14:45
Zero_Work14.04.1 LTS14:45
bipulZero_Work, Could you explain more about it? , like from where you have downloaded and how you have installed on your machine.14:46
bipulI always recommend to use LTS version. At least it is less buggy.14:46
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: should I just write :192.168.1.114:46
Zero_Workbipul, I downloaded it from the Ubuntu website. I'm dual booting my machine with windows. Ubuntu has its own drive but the boot loader lives on an SSD with windows. There is also a RAID 5 NTFS array in the system.14:47
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: or:nameserver[192.168.1.1]14:47
bipulZero_Work, Are you using graphic card?14:48
Zero_Workbipul it was booting fine for months14:48
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  open an new terminal window and type: route -n    what's the gateway?14:48
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Zero_Workbipul , yes NVIDIA GTX 970. Just tried uninstalling prop drivers14:48
bipulYes, i got your problem. Do one thing you know how to file a bug.14:49
Zero_WorkYes, I have an account14:49
bipulGreat.14:49
bipulBut before take a test14:49
arshiaHi , I downloaded Eclipse for linux , but i cannot find the .deb package on the archive , what to do ???14:49
MonkeyDust!find eclipse14:50
Zero_Workarishia, elcipse is portable14:50
ubottuFound: redeclipse, redeclipse-data, redeclipse-dbg, redeclipse-server, redeclipse-server-dbg, eclipse, eclipse-anyedit, eclipse-cdt, eclipse-cdt-autotools, eclipse-cdt-jni (and 51 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=eclipse&searchon=names&suite=utopic&section=all14:50
Zero_Workyou can just run it14:50
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: there are 2 of the gateway one is :0.0.0.0.  The second is 10.82.100.114:50
faLUCEhello, can you suggest me a MINIMAL text editor with: 1) I can choose default font 2) I can apply bold and italic to this font.14:50
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  ok, the use    nameserver 10.82.100.114:50
MonkeyDustthen*14:50
arshiaZero_Work: Really ???!!! What is the extension of the executable file ???14:51
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Zero_Workbipul I don't understand, it was working fine a few days ago.14:51
bipulZero_Work, reboot your system, then login ,if the problem persist, then press [alt + f4]. or try doing ssh in your system. It is to check either your system has a problem with graphics card or not.14:51
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: OK then:10.82.100.1[192.168.1.1]14:51
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: right?14:52
bipulIf your system works fine in a console mode then, it is a problem of graphics card14:52
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  no, not the [192.168.1.1], delete that14:52
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: okey, ok14:52
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  just   nameserver 10.82.100.114:52
Zero_Workarishia there is an executable file called eclipse14:52
b10s_hi2all14:52
Zero_Workit doesn't have an extension.14:52
arshiaZero_Work: it cannot open it.14:53
b10s_how can i check which SATA i have?14:53
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  ok, now save and close that file and type     sudo resolvconf -u14:53
Zero_WorkDoes it give you an error?14:53
b10s_cos looks like my hdd now works under ATA14:53
arshiaZero_Work: I'll pastebin the problem.14:53
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: u mean :nameserver 10.82.100.114:54
bipulZero_Work, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/122042614:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1220426 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "[nvidia-prime]Freeze while using touchpad" [Low,Triaged]14:54
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  yes14:54
Zero_Workbipul : https://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK14:54
Zero_Work..oops14:54
Zero_Work..that is cool too but not what I wanted to paste14:54
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: OK  saved, woo14:54
Zero_Workhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9767698/14:55
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  ok, now  type     sudo resolvconf -u14:55
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: type is okey14:55
xtpeepsNull14:55
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  not better? any errors?14:56
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: then?14:56
xtpeepsNo14:56
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: just nothing14:56
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  did you type        sudo resolvconf -u14:56
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: yea I did14:57
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  ok, now, with the cable,  try to ping 10.82.100.114:57
elektron_@#$14:57
bipulZero_Work, Ok, is that your current log file?14:58
Zero_Workbiped yes14:58
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: OK  everything is fine14:58
Zero_Work..auto correct14:58
arshiaZero_Work , http://paste.ubuntu.com/9767719/14:58
Zero_Workbipul14:58
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: I get the time14:58
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  problem solved?14:59
Zero_Workarshia, why are you trying to open with an archive manager? Is the file executable?14:59
arshiaZero_Work, no , .tar.gz is the extension of the file.15:00
bipulHumm.. I don't find any issue.15:00
Zero_Workbipul I may need to try to login again... one sec15:00
bipulYes, do it and check, and then let me know. Let see what i can do for you.15:01
Zero_Workthanks15:01
arshiaZero_Work, the extension of the file is ".tar.gz" , what can i do ?15:01
Zero_WorkThat is a compressed archive15:02
Zero_Workyou need to decompress it then un archive it15:02
Zero_WorkIll send you instructions15:02
bipularshia, Just untar it.15:02
Zero_Workhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/262068/how-to-extract-a-tar-gz-file15:03
EriC^^arshia: what are you installing btw?15:03
bipul!info .tar.gz15:03
ubottuPackage .tar.gz does not exist in utopic15:03
bipulops15:03
arshiaEriC^^: Eclipse IDE15:03
anonymous__Hello15:04
MonkeyDustarshia  eclipse is in the software center / repos15:04
EriC^^arshia: why dont you install it from the repository? sudo apt-get install eclipse15:04
Zero_Workbipul , system is frozen and can't drop to a terminal... going to try SSG15:04
Zero_Workssh15:04
MonkeyDust!info eclipse15:04
ubottueclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8.1-5.1 (utopic), package size 15 kB, installed size 122 kB15:04
anonymous__GO TO DDOS WEB SITE15:04
Mihaibuchttp://Earn4Share.com/?id=7013515:04
MonkeyDustanonymous__  wrong channel15:04
anonymous__realhack.ucoz.net15:04
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arshiaEriC^^, Now i downloaded it and i don't want to waste my Internet again . What should i do with this status ?15:05
anonymous__I m new15:05
anonymous__IM NEW15:05
EriC^^arshia: it's better if you install it from the repositories cause it will be integrated with the system and get updated when you update the system and wont break any other packages15:06
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: oh no  I still can't connect15:06
anonymous__Who will teach the sutes to break15:06
dobrishinovHello15:06
bipulZero_Work, Press [ctrl + alt + f2 or f3]15:06
anonymous__HELLO!15:06
Zero_Workbipul, ssh isn't working either15:06
Topsyhi15:07
Topsywe r new here15:07
Zero_Workbipul, yes tried that15:07
arshiaEriC^^, You mean i should download it from the terminal ??? no better way to keep up with this ?????15:07
bipulZero_Work, Is it not working?15:07
anonymous__HELP ME !!!15:07
Zero_Workbipul, nope15:07
EriC^^arshia: yes, it's better that way15:08
Zero_Workanonymou__ ask a question15:08
Zero_Workanonymous__ ask a question15:08
anonymous__Want to off site 115:08
Zero_Workbipul, I'm about to reinstall I think15:08
anonymous__Help ME15:08
arshiaEriC^^: Ok ...15:08
bipulwait,15:08
bipulI am sitting on slow speed. So i might take some time. Between if you want to reinstall then as your wish.15:09
anonymous__This website realhack.ucoz.net15:09
anonymous__Tematic HACK15:10
bipulZero_Work, Get me your /var/log files.15:10
anonymous__Virus programm15:10
anonymous__I from russia15:10
Zero_Workbipul, ok looks like Ill have to do a hard restart15:10
BluesKaj!ru | anonymous__15:10
ubottuanonymous__: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.15:10
bipulanonymous__, Don't sounds like noob. This is a Ubuntu channel, please talk about ubuntu.15:10
anonymous__I DONT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH15:11
BluesKajanonymous__, ^15:11
bipulanonymous__, then how come you are writing it?15:11
Zero_Workbipul, HD activity light is solid, if that gives you a clue15:11
bipuljust get me a log file and system details. I will look at my free time.15:12
OerHekshow is that helpfull, bipul ?15:12
Zero_WorkCan you PM me an email?15:12
bipulOerHeks, At least i will search it.15:13
Zero_Workbipul... lol it just booted fine15:13
bipulok.15:13
Zero_Workmaybe my hard drive is going bad and leaving it turned off for a few seconds did something15:13
Zero_Work... ill check SMART15:13
arshiaWhy some of these apps on Software center are not free ? isn't Gnu Linux's Apps open source ??????15:13
ikoniaarshia: not all apps are open source15:14
arshiaor at least free ???15:14
MonkeyDustxtpeeps  i'm out of ideas, maybe someone else can help15:14
ikoniaarshia: some are comcercial products15:14
arshiaikonia: Hmm... Ok , got it...15:15
Zero_Workbipul, yeah I guess it might be a drive issue. SMART says this one has been running for over 2 years now. seek errors are starting to smell.15:16
Zero_WorkLooks like a trip to Microcenter is in my future15:16
Zero_WorkThanks for the help15:16
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xtpeepsMonkeyDust: its okey, Thank you so much ,so kind of u:)15:19
xtpeepsMonkeyDust: Thank you for your patient15:19
anonymous__People I i well english teach you )))15:20
anonymous__I FROM RUSSIA !15:21
BluesKajanonymous__, what is your problem?15:22
Zero_WorkHe's a troll, best to ignore15:22
BluesKajZero_Work, are you sure?15:23
Zero_Work80%15:23
anonymous__I FROM RUSSIA And do not know English15:23
anonymous__USE TRANSLATION15:23
anonymous__^_^15:23
ikonia!ru | anonymous__15:23
ubottuanonymous__: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.15:23
Zero_Workanonymous__, ask a question if you need specific help15:24
anonymous__Zero thank YOU15:24
anonymous__While i will try to communicate with you ^15:25
Zero_Workok15:25
Zero_WorkBluesKaj, I may have been wrong =/15:26
anonymous__IT is difficult but nothing15:26
BluesKajZero_Work, we'll see15:26
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anonymous__I am 15 years olD ^D15:27
Zero_Workahh15:27
arshiaanonymous__: Funny : Same age ...15:27
anonymous__YES.....15:27
BluesKajanonymous__, just ask your question15:27
Zero_Workanonymous__ What is your problem?15:27
anonymous__Zero ANYTHING"15:28
bipulActully we don't need to feed the troll.15:28
Zero_Workbipul++15:28
bipulok later.15:29
BluesKajZero_Work, looks like he just wants to chit chat15:29
Zero_WorkYeah I'm finished. anonymous__ if you aren't a troll, you may need to try to find someone that speaks your language to help out. Google translate isn't working too well.15:29
anonymous__With WML will quickly learn ENGLISH i think PEOPLE15:29
anonymous__Not only shebites15:30
arshiaZero_Work: What is a troll ?! a kind of bot or something ??15:30
anonymous__AXAAXA15:30
Zero_Workarishia, a prankster I guess.15:30
Torzonim trying to setup my Ubuntu for Tor Browsing Only and its not working well anyone can help me ?15:30
anonymous__I dont Understand15:30
ikoniaanonymous__: I suggest you use #ubuntu-ru as your translation is not working15:31
ikonia!ru | anonymous__15:31
MonkeyDustanonymous__  type   /j #ubuntu-ru15:31
anonymous__Communicate with me often words i will remember15:31
anonymous__IDOKIA I KNOW15:31
ikoniaanonymous__: then please use #ubuntu-ru15:32
anonymous__ikonia I want to be here15:33
anonymous__Please )15:33
anonymous__I'm in 8 th grade15:33
anonymous__you how much year15:34
ikoniaanonymous__: this channel is for ubuntu chat only15:34
BluesKajanonymous__, we don't teach english in this channel15:34
xtpeepsFunny first seen this15:35
anonymous__OH///15:35
anonymous__THANK YOU HELP15:35
EriC^^anonymous__: go to #ubuntu-offtopic to chat15:35
arshiaZero_Work: Looks like you're right .15:35
Zero_Workyeah, probably getting posted directly to 4chan15:36
anonymous__Eric you are from whic country15:36
Guest80890.xchat2/budus.so15:36
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arshiaanonymous__: This is IRC; not the viber or yahoo massanger.15:37
SerythHi all. I've got a bit of a problem with xorg. Whenever i run startx, it just crashes and I can't access TTY or move the cursor (which shows up) or anything. I'm not actually running on Ubuntu atm, but on Debian, but I figure you guys will probably be able to lend a hand to this. It's an old Dell Inspiron 1300 laptop.15:44
MonkeyDustSeryth  better ask in #debian, then15:46
SerythMonkeyDust, I did half an hour ago, no response and join/part messages have hidden my question. I've found #ubuntu to be a lot more active than #debian, and I don't think this is a distro specific problem at the moment.15:47
MonkeyDustSeryth  this channel *is* distro specific15:48
xchatterI just got my new laptop and installed Kubuntu in an encrypted LVM. After the installation finished I had to enter my passphrase 3 times before it loaded Kubuntu. But each time it said successful. Does this have to do with UEFI somehow? I never had an UEFI BIOS before or could it be some other problem?15:49
fedorafanSeryth maybe try to reinstall your desktop environment15:50
ikoniafedorafan: please don't offer random help15:50
ikoniawe do not support debian here15:50
SerythYeah I get I shouldn't have asked here15:51
fedorafanyeah here its just talk about ubuntu but wehre to set bounds15:52
ikoniafedorafan: the bounds are set - if it's ubuntu its ok15:52
xchatterNow it worked.15:53
xchatterStrange.15:53
xchatterWhat could be the reason that when I installed Kubuntu and choose German keyboard layout that "y" and "z" are still switched in the login window of Kubuntu but once I am logged in "y" and "z" are mapped correctly to the keyboard I have15:55
andres_hola15:56
LPGHola15:56
xtpeepsHola15:57
LPGUbuntu must have change.15:58
ikonia?15:58
xtpeepsWhat's the meaning15:59
LPGHmm...15:59
LPGIt is complicated.16:01
arshiaI'm downloading the eclipse from the terminal , why it is not finishing ????!!!16:01
LPGReinstall16:01
ikoniaarshia: it's quite a big package16:01
ikoniaarshia: what is the name of the package you installed16:01
arshiaeclipse16:01
arshiainstalling , not installed16:02
ikoniawhat was the exact command you run16:02
haruna@find junketsu16:04
OerHeksharuna, try !find16:04
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delaci would like to force sound through speakers even when headphones are plugged in. I have managed to disable Auto-Mute, but the speakers are still muted after restart, likely by PulseAudio. How to configure it to not do it?16:09
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OerHeksdelac,  most hardware detect headphone and disconnect line out, so if you find a solution, let us know16:12
nicholason a thinkpad x120e and have a strange issue: when press the power button, it does a force shutdown, then restarts. the power dialog comes up, but as soon as I release the power button, it force shuts down. Any help/ideas?16:15
delacOerHeks: it is possible to get the speakers to work even when the headphones are plugged in. the problem is that I dont seem to be able to make the settings permanent16:15
OerHeksdelac no, it is hardware that does that, not software.16:15
delacOerHeks: hardware does what?16:16
OerHeks...16:17
BluesKajdelac, plugging headphones into some sound cards shorts the speaker outputs16:18
OerHeksdelac, stop trolling16:18
OerHeksyou asked,<delac> OerHeks: it is possible to get the speakers to work even when the headphones are plugged in.16:18
nicholasanyone? please?16:18
delacBluesKaj: not in this case. I am able to use the speakers with certain settings. I just cant make the settings permanent16:18
junminghi all16:18
junmingi have a question about download managers on linux in general16:19
sudormrfhey guys16:19
k1ljunming: its not that common to use them.16:19
sudormrfwhat is the best way to see what folders on the entire machine are taking up the most space using the cli?16:19
BluesKajdelac, did you setup alsamixer with those options?16:20
junmingk1l, i know, but i need a download manager to check by itself, automatically, and regularly, a rss feed (or any xml file, or html or whatever) to retrieve new links and download automatically16:20
k1lsudormrf: "ncdu"16:21
delacBluesKaj: i did disavle the automute there, and that setting sticks. But the speaker volume still gets muted and set to zero16:21
sudormrfk1l, that is only showing me the current directory16:21
sudormrfI want to see the entire machine16:21
k1lsudormrf: then go to /16:21
sudormrfderp.  thanks :D16:21
sudormrfjust did ncdu /16:21
nicholason a thinkpad x120e and have a strange issue: when press the power button, it does a force shutdown, then restarts. the power dialog comes up, but as soon as I release the power button, it force shuts down. Any help/ideas? thanks!16:22
sudormrftrying to figure out what all of a sudden filled my drive up16:22
sudormrflel16:22
kibibytehi16:22
kibibytewhat i shuould buy in order to install ubuntu phone on it ?16:23
BluesKajdelac, does F5 in alsamixer show a heaphone output ?16:23
kibibytewhine phone *16:23
kibibytewhat phone*16:23
MonkeyDust!phone| kibibyte16:23
ubottukibibyte: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch16:23
kibibytek16:24
delacBluesKaj: yes16:24
nicholasanyone? please? :-p16:24
delacBluesKaj: I think I could solve my problem if I could make Pavucontrol to remember a certain setting even after reboot. Is there a way to force that?16:25
Guest34014sera16:26
Guest34014che si dice qui?16:26
BluesKajdelac, then set the volume on the headphone output and the speaker outs, then run sudo alsactl store in the terminal16:26
DocWaffleBrand ne16:27
krabadorGuest34014, il canale italiano è #ubuntu-it16:27
krabadorGuest34014, t'è stato anche segnalato , ci sono problemi?16:27
sudormrfk1l, is there a way to make ncdu exclude a certain folder from its search?16:28
DocWaffleattempting to get Ubuntu going for the first time ever, is this the right channel or is there a more appropriate one?16:28
cfhowlettDocWaffle, right channel.  ask16:28
sudormrfDocWaffle, for ubuntu desktop this is the correct channel16:28
DocWaffleThanks16:28
delacBluesKaj: I was sort of hoping to fix this with user settings16:29
DocWaffle So far my issue is my pic won't boot from disk even when I change the settings it boots windows from the hard drive16:30
BluesKajdelac, what's your audio chip?16:30
cfhowlettDocWaffle, hardware specifications???16:30
eraggoDocWaffle: you can try to change boot order from BIOS. Other way is to change boot disk with F8 (in most computers) while boot is happening. Sometimes it might be ESC-key16:31
Delta706is it possible to select nothing for the default mail application?16:32
BluesKajdelac, the audio chip is listed in the top left in alsamixer16:32
delacBluesKaj: its not like theres any problem with the chip or drivers. The problem is theres a piece of jack stuck in the headphones plug and I need a temporary fix for a friend16:32
DocWaffleAMD Fx(tm)-4130 Quad-Core Processor 3.8 GHz16:33
DocWaffle8 GHz installed ram16:33
DocWaffle64 bit OS16:34
cfhowlettDocWaffle, you're making a boot disk?  Not usb?16:34
BluesKajdelac, well pulseaudio settings like to over ride alsa settings, if it's an intel audio chip , you safely run all the audio without pulseaudio installed on mos intel audio setups16:35
ropo_can someon teach me javascript16:35
DocWaffleYeah, it's del for me, but that doesn't actually do anything, it still boots windows from the HD16:35
k1lropo_: better ask in a javascript channel16:35
k1l!alis | ropo_16:36
ubotturopo_: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*16:36
BluesKajdelac, hence alsamixer settings can then determine final audio settings for the system16:36
ropo_hello16:36
cfhowlettDocWaffle, 1.  verify your .iso       2. verify your boot DVD   3. go into your bios, disable the HDD and choose dvd as the boot device16:36
DocWaffleUm, actually the boot disk was too big, so I tried the mini16:36
MonkeyDustropo_  start here http://www.echoecho.com/16:37
BluesKajgot stuff to do for 30 mins or so, BBL16:38
sudormrfis there a way to start the built in vnc program on ubuntu from the CLI?16:39
DocWaffleHmm got a new screen that actually seemed to change the settings but windows loaded anyway16:40
sudormrftrying to VNC into my desktop without having to plug it in to my TV16:40
rtwdfbotnet disclosure report: http://pastebin.com/74UDe8mA    check/clean your systems. Thank you.16:41
DocWaffleWow, this windows is aggressive16:43
DocWaffleInstead of loading from the CD-ROM I got a windows recovery error that the computer had attempted to load something other than windows16:44
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cfhowlettDocWaffle, yep, that's windows 8 "protection".  you need to do some uefi / legacy manipulation16:45
cfhowlett!uefi | DocWaffle16:45
ubottuDocWaffle: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI16:45
DocWaffleExcept I'm running 7?16:45
Stunt131Anyone have any experience with Macbook 10.1 sensors and how to get them working?16:47
MoonlightningSo I used the whole disk and set up an encrypted LVM when I installed Ubuntu, and I told it to overwrite the disk with random data16:48
MoonlightningBut there wasn't a really long /writing random data/ phase, so I feel like it didn't happen.16:48
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MoonlightningIs there a log that stuck around somewhere that I could check?16:48
sudormrfanyone?16:50
sudormrfnm16:51
sudormrfquestion about cron16:51
MoonlightningThere probably is, sudormrf. Did you install it using `apt-get`?16:51
MoonlightningI'm thinking you can probably `sudo start` it, if it has an, uh16:51
Moonlightningwhatever the equivalent of initscript is16:51
bipulsudormrf, what's the question?16:51
sudormrfMoonlightning, no, this is built in to ubuntu.  didn't need to install it.  but I can work around it16:51
sudormrfbipul, in the crontab, can I just # to comment things out, or do I need to remove them?  I have been using gnome-schedule to manipulate the crontab, and since I can't VNC in I will just modify it from the CLI16:52
sudormrfMoonlightning, I forget what the program is called, but if you type remote into the unity search it comes up16:53
sudormrfI don't believe it is a service, it is a program AFAIK16:54
sudormrfwell...you know what I mean lol.16:54
bipul"#" it is used to comment.16:54
Moonlightningsudormrf: if it's sitting there and listening for inbound connections, it seems to me that it /should/ be treated as a service16:54
sudormrfbipul, you can comment things out with # in conf files and what not normally.  wondering if the same thing works in the crontab or not.16:54
MoonlightningLike SSHd, or…a VNC server.16:54
Moonlightningsudormrf: yeah, it does.16:55
sudormrfMoonlightning, don't disagree with you about it should be a service.  # works in crontab...good.  will comment out the offending lines for now.16:55
Moonlightningsudormrf: see `man 5 crontab`16:55
sudormrfwould like to get this vnc thing back up and running16:55
sudormrfMoonlightning, checking now.16:55
sudormrfmaybe it's if you type screen sharing16:56
sudormrfI forget what you type.  I typically don't VNC into this machine.16:56
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bipulsudormrf, just try and let us know, i believe it's work as a comment there.16:57
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sudormrfbipul, I can insert the # there no problem, but how can I verify without waiting for the job to run?16:58
MoonlightningHm, I found /var/log/installer/partman; would there be some indication in here that the disk was overwritten with random data?16:59
sudormrfMoonlightning, I believe it is vino16:59
Moonlightningsudormrf: the idea here is to kick it off however it's normally kicked off.17:00
sudormrfMoonlightning, IC.  well that job is set to run at midnight or somewhere there abouts17:00
MoonlightningIf that's by init, then tell init to start it; if it's just run as `nohup ... &` then do that17:00
smakosI want to buy access to an ssh server surpporting x86 architecture. Any good recommendations?17:00
smakosAnd running ubuntu or linux of course17:01
Moonlightningsudormrf: It does normally start at boot, right?17:01
sudormrfMoonlightning, normally, yes.  but I just rebooted and it has not started17:01
Moonlightningsudormrf: …check your logs, actually; maybe it's failing to start for some reason.17:02
sudormrfMoonlightning, not seeing anything in syslog about it17:03
sudormrfneed to find a longer hdmi cable to solve this17:03
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Moonlightningsudormrf: do you still have a log from a time when the system booted and it autostarted? It might not be in the most recent one.17:04
sudormrfMoonlightning, Just plugged it in to an HDMI and I am getting a message saying that the system is running in low graphics mode.  probably related to the hdd getting filled up due to the cron job.  going to restart it aggin17:06
* Moonlightning blinks.17:06
MoonlightningWhat's it writing that's filling the disk?17:06
sudormrfMoonlightning, that is resolved.  it was a cron job that was backing stuff up to a NAS.  the NAS had a drive fail and I haven't bought a new one yet.  shut down the nas and unmounted the shares.  forgot there was a cron job backing stuff up.  it ran last night and filled the main drive.  removed the backed up data from the main drive.17:07
MoonlightningUh, okay.17:07
sudormrfyeah ther eig toes17:08
sudormrfthe drive was 100% full17:08
sudormrfit's a small SSD17:08
MoonlightningFor the future, maybe make it actually check that that's a mountpoint. :)17:08
sudormrfI knew it was a mountpoint lol.  I had forgotten about the cron job17:08
MoonlightningWhen it's backing up.17:08
MoonlightningSo that it doesn't ever back up a volume to the same volume.17:09
sudormrfooooohhhh.  how can I do that?  I like that idea17:09
sudormrf:D17:09
Moonlightningman mountpoint  # :)17:09
sudormrfoh that is cool.  so then how would I tell it to stop if it is not a mountpoint?17:10
MoonlightningWell, what is it? I've been assuming it's just a shell script you wrote.17:11
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sudormrfoh.  no, no script in this case.  just a cronjob that uses rsync17:12
sudormrfrsync pathx to pathy basically17:12
MoonlightningMmm. Might be a good idea to stick it in a script and add a bit of logging.17:12
sudormrfnot opposed17:13
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sudormrfMoonlightning, but being a noob to the scripting, I don't know how I could pass the "is a mountpoint" "is not a mountpoint"17:14
Moonlightningsudormrf: if statement?17:15
* Moonlightning is trying to avoid writing it for you. You learn less that way. :)17:15
WangXufenghello,17:15
sudormrfMoonlightning, yes that I understand, but I don't know how to make it read "is a mountpoint" "is not a mountpoint".  I don't want you to, I prefer to learn :).  I can write most of it myself, just don't know how to have it read the is is not from the text17:16
sudormrfprobably easier for it to read the exit code17:16
MoonlightningOh, yeah.17:16
sudormrf0 = mountpoint, 1 = not17:16
MoonlightningThat's probably what you want to do.17:16
MoonlightningEspecially since you can just write it as the condition.17:17
sudormrfyep17:17
sudormrfbut where is that exit code written to?  I just did mountpoint /path/ and then checked syslog and didn't see an exit code17:17
sudormrfhmm17:18
nicofsI am trying to get audio output via hdmi running but sadly there is no hdmi sound card recognised by the system... where do i start to solve that?17:18
WangXufengIs there somebody can help me solving my Ubuntu 14.10 Desktop starting error?17:19
sudormrfchecking in to it17:19
z0ranis anyone had a problem to install kali-linux on kvm17:20
Moonlightningsudormrf: use `mountpoint` here like you would `[`.17:20
WangXufengI installed it with Kali Linux17:20
MoonlightningParent processes can find out about their children's exit codes. No logs needed.17:20
cfhowlettz0ran, kali is not supported here.  sorry17:20
MoonlightningYou don't need to do that directly though17:20
z0ranok, sorry17:20
sudormrfMoonlightning, what is [ ?17:20
Moonlightningsudormrf: `test`?17:20
sudormrfWangXufeng, go to the #kali17:21
sudormrfor is it #kali-linux17:21
sudormrfforget17:21
WangXufengthanks17:21
sudormrfMoonlightning, why the backticks? :P17:21
Moonlightningsudormrf: personal markup. I use them to mark code, not unlike the HTML <pre> and the Markdown…backticks.17:22
WangXufengIt's my ubuntu starting error17:22
sudormrfMoonlightning, gotcha.  well I just did a test script, mountpoint /path/ then under that echo $? and it returned a 1 because it was not a mountpoint17:22
sudormrfit's a starting point :)D17:23
Moonlightningsudormrf: indeed. You don't need $? though.17:23
sudormrfWangXufeng, what is the error?17:23
WangXufengI installed it with Kali linux in one part17:23
Moonlightningsudormrf: that is, using `$?` in a shell `if` is (generally) redundant. :)17:23
sudormrfMoonlightning, so if it returns 1, then the script will automatically stop?17:24
WangXufengand if I uodate it ,it will not working17:24
sudormrfWangXufeng, you haven't explained your ubuntu starting error.17:24
Moonlightningsudormrf: no(t by default—you /can/ make it do that). That's not what I meant, though.17:24
sudormrfMoonlightning, sorry then I don't follow17:24
Moonlightningsudormrf: right about now you should be looking at the documentation for your shell's `if` statement :317:25
cfhowlett!details | WangXufeng17:25
ubottuWangXufeng: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)17:25
sudormrfcfhowlett, thanks :)17:27
sudormrfMoonlightning, looking at if else bash documentation online17:27
WangXufengWhen I installed it,I opened it,but not find windows boot option,so I use "fdisk -l" and "apt-get update-grub",When I restarted It,I can find windows boot option,but I could,t power on ubuntu17:27
Nate_Hi I dual booted windows 7 and Ubuntu. I chose try from cd and then I went to install. I clicked continue after choosing where to install and the whole PC froze. I held the power button down and when I turned my PC back on it says unknown file system and it's in grub recovery mode something like that17:28
WangXufengmy ubuntu and kali is in one part17:28
Nate_Plz help17:28
cfhowlettWangXufeng, wait, what?17:28
MoonlightningNate_: the lesson here is not to immediately hardware reset when something seems to freeze.17:29
cfhowlettWangXufeng, that's not going to work17:29
MoonlightningNate_: ESPECIALLY not when you're messing with disks at a low level. Anything that involves repartitioning or formatting or anything like that.17:29
WangXufenghow can I solve it?17:29
Nate_Ok so what can I do to fix it?17:29
cfhowlettWangXufeng, 1... sudo update-grub NOT apt--get update grub17:29
MoonlightningNate_: do you happen to have a record of what was on the screen when you reset the system?17:30
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Nate_When it was frozen or in the grub recovery thing?17:30
sudormrfMoonlightning, could you have a look at the test script and explain why it is saying there is an error on line 5? (TBH I don't understand where the line numbering starts with bash scripting.  does it start #!/bin/bash <- there or the next line after that? are carriage returns counted? etc)17:31
MoonlightningNate_: when you did the hardware reset (i.e. held the power button until it powered off) following the freeze17:31
Moonlightningsudormrf: sure; pastebin it.17:31
Moonlightningsudormrf: '\n' should always be considered a line ending; '\r' may or may not be depending on context. Not sure about shells.17:31
Nate_Ok it was on the partition screen  in the Ubuntu install after I booted from cd I don't think it got to the install part yet17:32
Moonlightningsudormrf: IIRC, the first line of the file is line 1, regardless of comments.17:32
sudormrfMoonlightning, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9768542/17:32
sudormrfMoonlightning, ok.  in which case that would mean the error is at the if statement17:32
MoonlightningNate_: was it a screen where you were supposed to select options, or a progress screen (where it was doing the actual repartitioning)?17:32
rbihi17:33
Nate_Select options like it showed a bar with free space and stuff17:33
Nate_And I clicked install not continue17:33
Nate_Forgot that17:33
rbiquit17:33
rbiquit17:33
Moonlightningsudormrf: that's invalid syntax. `[` is a program; the brackets here are not like the parentheses around the condition in C-like languages.17:33
agata\c17:33
cfhowlettNate_, the fix is to start the installation over.  take your time, understand what your selecting and be patient.17:33
MoonlightningNate_: you clicked a button to tell it to continue, and after that it appared to freeze and you did a hardware reset.17:33
sudormrfMoonlightning, needed spaces17:34
Moonlightningsudormrf: yep.17:34
Nate_Btw I cannot boot into windows 7 or Ubuntu I go into the bios and chose hdd but it still says like grub rescue17:34
Moonlightningsudormrf: do you understand how `if`s work?17:34
ActionParsnipMoonlightning: add a space after [ and one before  ]17:35
MoonlightningNate_: no kidding. You hardware reset in the middle of a repartition for Luna's sake!17:35
Nate_?17:35
sudormrfMoonlightning, well I have always understood how if/then/elses work in the general context of programming, just wasn't sure how to pass the information from the mountpoint command to it.  but an exit code is sufficient.17:35
sudormrfActionParsnip, that was it :)17:35
Nate_I had already made the partition tho17:35
MoonlightningActionParsnip: trynna explain /why/, though.17:35
sudormrfMoonlightning, at least in this case an exit code is sufficient.  Oh, in that case I don't understand why a space is necessary.17:35
Nate_Wait I tried booting again and it shows Ubuntu and the dots17:36
Nate_Like going orange and white17:36
sudormrfdots are good! :D17:36
hggdhsudormrf: because '[' is a binary -- ls -l /usr/bin/[17:36
ActionParsnipMoonlightning: not sure. Maybe it's to show that the character is not part of the variable names and so forth17:36
MoonlightningNate_: in general, partitioning operations are created and then committed.17:36
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Nate_Oh17:36
MoonlightningNate_: i.e., it doesn't /actually change anything/ until you click /continue/17:36
MoonlightningNate_: which you did, and then killed the system.17:36
ActionParsnip!away > LazyO|Off17:36
ubottuLazyO|Off, please see my private message17:36
Nate_It shows Ubuntu and the dots how long will this take? Oh now I see what I've done17:37
MoonlightningYeah. :(17:37
MoonlightningGotta cross your fingers that it's not in a partial state.17:37
Nate_So the only option is to factory reset the os somehow?17:37
MoonlightningNate_: it's not /necessarily/ messed up.17:37
Nate_My cd drive is jerking like crazy lo17:37
Nate_Lol17:37
MoonlightningNate_: it's just not /guaranteed/ to be okay.17:38
Nate_Now the dots have stopped changing17:38
cfhowlettNate_, clean install ubuntu.  windows is there, but you scrambled the bootloader17:38
MoonlightningIt /might/ be messed up. Gotta wait and see.17:38
Nate_There all orange17:38
Nate_Now it shows a bray screen17:38
MoonlightningNate_: this is Ubuntu's booting animation.17:38
sudormrfMoonlightning, thank you for this suggestion.  with this PoC I can turn it in to a script to put in place.  will be simple enough.17:38
Nate_With a bar at the top17:38
Nate_Now it's loading the Ubuntu Logan screen17:38
Nate_Yay17:38
sudormrfjust need to replace the mountpoint statement with the correct path and the else with the action I want it to take17:38
Nate_Yayayayayayayaya17:39
Nate_Holo17:39
Nate_Holo17:39
sudormrfNate_, Awesome!17:39
Nate_Yolo17:39
ActionParsnipNate_: wtg17:39
Nate_Stupid autocorrect17:39
Nate_Thx for the help17:39
Moonlightningsudormrf: `mountpoint $dir; if [ "$?" -eq 0 ]; then $etc; fi;` is redundant; can you see why?17:39
WangXufengmy ubuntu 14.10 Desktop x64 error is :17:39
MoonlightningNate_: not outta the woods yet17:39
Nate_Ok17:39
Nate_Dang17:40
Nate_It's doing the setup I chose the download updates and stuff17:40
MoonlightningGo through with the installation again, as cfh_wlett said, and be patient. Don't rush through stuff you're not sure about; ask us.17:40
nicofsI am trying to get audio output via hdmi running but sadly there is no hdmi sound card recognised by the system... where do i start to solve that?17:40
Nate_K it's frozen again not gonna make the same mistake17:41
sudormrfMoonlightning, No.  how I read that is this "we want a certain action to be taken based upon the value of $?" which requires an if statement in my mind.  but I am very much a noob to programming.17:41
Nate_Lol17:41
Moonlightningsudormrf: you know that `[` isn't special, though—it's just a regular program.17:41
cfhowlettNate_, sounds like it's downloading updates.  go get a cup of tea and cup back later17:41
Moonlightning(hgg_h mentioned this)17:42
Nate_K lol17:42
sudormrfMoonlightning, hmm.  I don't follow.  [ is defining the condition for the if statement as I read it.17:42
Nate_K I just clicked something else for installation type17:42
WangXufengmy ubuntu 14.10Desktop x64 system error is:[   2.381833]request_module:runaway loop modprobe binfnt-464c17:42
Moonlightningsudormrf: `[` is a program: `ls -l /bin/[`17:43
eraggowas it 5 years that canonical offers updates on 14.04?17:43
Moonlightningeraggo: that's /support/17:43
cfhowlett!LTS | eraggo,17:43
ubottueraggo,: LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)17:43
MoonlightningLove dem unicorns, though17:43
eraggothanks17:43
sudormrfMoonlightning, I don't understand.17:43
Nate_K I have a 21 gb thing it's sda4  and a 22 gb free space and a unusable 20gb part17:44
sudormrfMoonlightning, I understand that ls is a program, but I don't understand how [ is a program17:44
ikonia 17:44
Moonlightningsudormrf: because it is. There's a `/bin/[`. The character `[` happens to not be special to the shell.17:44
Nate_K clicked install now and it says no root file system defined?17:45
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Nate_Nvm got it do I format oration or no17:45
sudormrfMoonlightning, when I try to do ls -l /bin/[ it says no such file or directory17:45
Moonlightningsudormrf: wat. What OS?17:45
Nate_format partition or no17:45
sudormrfMoonlightning, ubuntu 12.0417:45
p-trustput like if you like to squirt17:45
p-trustoops wrong chan,sry17:45
MoonlightningNate_: and this is yet another place where you want to be careful. :P17:46
shuman:)17:46
MoonlightningNate_: can you get us a screenshot?17:46
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Nate_Ok il try17:46
Moonlightningsudormrf: my bad; it's in /usr/bin17:47
sudormrfMoonlightning, ah, yes now I see something there17:47
gangosanHi17:47
gangosanplease help me17:47
eraggogangosan: just ask17:47
gangosanwhere download Ubuntu 12.0417:48
Moonlightninggangosan: from the website.17:48
sudormrfMoonlightning, sorry, OK so back on track.  I don't understand why the if statement is redundant17:48
ActionParsnipgangosan: cdimage.ubuntu.com17:48
Moonlightninggangosan: also, unless you need 12.04 specifically, I would get the latest version (14.10 Utopic Unicorn) or latest LTS (14.04 Trusty Tahir)17:48
cfhowlettgangosan, http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/  HERE17:48
ActionParsnipMoonlightning: Utopic is only supported til July this year.17:49
Moonlightningsudormrf: so when you do `if [ "$?" -eq 0 ]`, the shell invokes `[`. But then how does it know whether to execute the `then` or not?17:49
gangosanthak you17:49
gangosanthahc you17:49
Moonlightninggangosan(, ActionParsnip): that's why I said /or latest LTS/17:49
gangosanthank you17:49
MoonlightningYou're welcome, gangosan17:49
ActionParsnipMoonlightning: Precise is supported til after Utopic dies.17:49
sudormrfMoonlightning, in my test script it invokes the then?17:50
MoonlightningActionParsnip: and Tahir is supported until after Precise dies.17:50
Nate_Sorry it took so long I think this it it17:50
Nate_http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/nejrobbins/media/imagejpg1_zpse167be54.jpg.html?sort=3&o=117:50
ActionParsnipMoonlightning: yes. So for casual users. Non-LTS releases aren't great17:50
MoonlightningActionParsnip: so unless you need Precise specifically, why not get Tahir?17:51
sudormrfMoonlightning, that wasn't a question, it was a statement that my test script invokes the then or the else depending on the result, so I am confused.  sorry :)17:51
MoonlightningPangolin *17:51
Nate_Monolingual17:51
Nate_Whips17:51
Moonlightningsudormrf: the result of…what? :)17:51
Nate_Whoops17:51
cfhowlettNate_, 20GB for /swap?17:51
Nate_It set that default or something I dint do that17:51
ActionParsnipMoonlightning: oh absolutely. The latest LTS all the way unless there is a requirement17:51
Nate_I wanted 20 for like main thing17:51
MoonlightningActionParsnip: hence: Tahir if you need LTS; Unicorn if you don't.17:52
MoonlightningLatest LTS (Tahir) or latest release (Unicorn). Which is what I said.17:52
cfhowlettNate_, delete /dev/sda4   make a new swap of 2 X your ram st the rest as /home17:52
sudormrfMoonlightning, what I have placed in the brackets.  so telling it if [ $? = 1 ] then write "not a mountpoint, stopping script"17:52
MoonlightningNate_, cfhowlett: careful with deleting things by index.17:52
MoonlightningNate_, cfhowlett: sda4 might not be what you think it is17:53
cfhowlettNate_, STOPP17:53
sudormrfMoonlightning, if I change the $? to $? = 0 then it goes to the else17:53
Nate_Ok17:53
cfhowlettMoonlightning, please expand/expound17:53
sudormrfMoonlightning, is it not working correctly?17:53
Moonlightningsudormrf: but the shell isn't doing the check. `[` is doing the check.17:53
sudormrfMoonlightning, I am still confused as to what the problem is.17:53
Moonlightningsudormrf: the shell doesn't treat `$? -eq 0` specially; those are just arguments to `[`17:53
MoonlightningRight?17:54
sudormrfMoonlightning, right, I agree with that.17:54
Moonlightningcfhowlett: oh, I missed the point where Nate_ posted a screenshot.17:54
MoonlightningWhich details what's what. Never mind.17:54
sudormrfMoonlightning, but it appears to be working as designed, so I am confused as to where the problem is17:54
cfhowlettMoonlightning, thanks.17:55
Nate_Oh17:55
cfhowlettNate_, "suggested" best practice is 2 X ram for /swap17:55
Moonlightningsudormrf: it works as designed, yeah. But I'm trying to give you a deeper understanding. :)17:55
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sudormrfMoonlightning, yes, I appreciate it :).  But without being more explicit in this case I don't think I am going to grasp the concept :)17:55
Moonlightningsudormrf: Since the shell is just passing arguments to `[` instead of doing any checks itself, how does it know what the result of the check is?17:56
sudormrfMoonlightning, I don't know the answer to that.17:56
Moonlightningsudormrf: have you read the manual page for `[` (aka `test`)?17:56
hggdh[is a synonym to test. 'man [17:56
sudormrfMoonlightning, looking at it now17:56
hggdh', or 'info [' or details17:56
ActionParsnipMoonlightning: the command returns a value of 1 or 0 if it's successful or not17:56
MoonlightningActionParsnip: being able to look up documentation oneself is a useful skill IMHO :)17:57
sudormrfMoonlightning, I typically do look at man pages ;D.17:57
Moonlightning:D17:58
ActionParsnipMoonlightning: very. Teach a man to fish17:58
MoonlightningQuite.17:58
sudormrfMoonlightning, so you are saying I can just have it to test mountpoint path instead of an if [ blah ] in this case as that would be the shell passing the argument17:58
sudormrf?17:58
Moonlightningsudormrf: Do you see how that would work? :)17:59
sudormrfMoonlightning, not really, no.  I just created a test script that says "test mountpoint /path/to/test" and it gives me an error18:00
sudormrfunary operator expected18:01
Moonlightningsudormrf: indeed. `test` doesn't have a `mountpoint` option.18:01
Moonlightningsudormrf: let's back up a bit. When you say `if test "$?" -eq 0`, how does the shell check the result18:01
Moonlightning?18:01
sudormrfMoonlightning, sounds good.  I don't know how it checks the result18:02
Moonlightningsudormrf: how does `test` indicate the result? It doesn't print anything; we can see that.18:03
sudormrfMoonlightning, sorry I don't follow.  in a test script if I don't use [ it fails18:04
sudormrfMoonlightning, it tells me [ is required18:04
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Moonlightningsudormrf: `test` (also known as `[`) is a program that evaluates expressions passed to it as arguments. We've established that much, yeah?18:05
sudormrfMoonlightning, yes18:05
kyle_dzbbb18:06
sudormrfMoonlightning, ok, so I just created a test script that says if test "$?" -eq 0 (and added some echo statements for the then and else)18:06
sudormrfMoonlightning, and it works18:06
Moonlightningsudormrf, yep.18:07
sudormrfMoonlightning, but I am really not seeing the correlation here18:07
EriC^^sudormrf: it's the same as if [ "$?" -eq 0 ]; then echo exit status was 0; fi18:07
sudormrfMoonlightning, EriC^^, so wait a minute, I think I get what you are saying now, maybe.  Let me test something18:08
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sudormrfMoonlightning, EriC^^, nope.  still don't get it.  I just modified the test script to say this test; if "$?" -eq 0; then echo blah; fi18:10
sudormrfand I get an error18:10
EriC^^sudormrf: you can either use [ ] or test18:10
sudormrfMoonlightning, EriC^^ you are saying that test == [, which I get.  but with an if statement it requires me to use [ condition ]18:10
sudormrfEriC^^, so I am lost as to what the message here is.18:11
Moonlightningsudormrf: why does the shell want you to use that one specific program as the condition of an `if` statement?18:11
MoonlightningWhy would it do that?18:11
sudormrfMoonlightning, I don't understand the question.18:12
Moonlightningsudormrf: you're saying the shell requires you to use either `[` or `test` as the condition.18:12
sudormrfMoonlightning, in the scope of an if statement, yes.18:12
Moonlightningi.e. you cannot, for example, do `if echo foo; then echo bar; fi;`18:12
EriC^^sudormrf: you can use if test "$?" -eq 0; then echo exit status was 0; fi , or if [ "$?" -eq 0 ]; then echo exit status was 0; fi18:13
theadminMoonlightning: Um.18:13
sudormrfMoonlightning, correct, because that is not how if statements work.  at least the way I understand them18:13
EriC^^it's the same thing18:13
quillfordhow can I get my GUI back? all I can do atm is open TTY and use startx to see my wallpaper18:13
theadminMoonlightning: http://i.imgur.com/OlPjxRh.png - that works, just like expected...18:14
Moonlightningsudormrf: ^18:14
sudormrfEriC^^, I get that, but I feel like Moonlightning is saying my script is wrong because I used the [ ] and I want to know why.18:14
theadminsudormrf: Can I see the script?18:14
EriC^^sudormrf: can you post a link to the script?18:14
sudormrfMoonlightning, EriC^^ appreciate the lesson guys :)18:14
sudormrfEriC^^, sure18:14
eraggoquillford: try alt+F718:14
EriC^^quillford: are you on ubuntu?18:15
quillforderaggo: when?18:15
sudormrfEriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9768781/18:15
quillfordEriC^^: 14.04 lts18:15
EriC^^quillford: try sudo service lightdm restart18:15
eraggoquillford: if you are in tty and desktop is running try that18:16
EriC^^quillford: ( you shouldn't use startx, especially with sudo cause you'll mess up the permissions )18:16
theadminsudormrf: That script seems perfectly fine, except the extra whitespace18:16
sudormrfMoonlightning, so were you getting at the test vs [] thing?18:16
quillfordEriC^^: restarting lightdm gives a blank screen18:17
Moonlightningtheadmin: I'm trying to get him to understand why it's redundant, without outright saying it.18:17
sudormrftheadmin, thanks.  the PoC had worked, so that is why I was confused18:17
sudormrfMoonlightning, I don't understand why it is redundant.18:17
quillforderaggo: alt f7 gives blank screen18:17
minimecquillford: if you do a 'normal' boot, do you get the graphical login screen to enter a user session?18:17
quillfordno18:17
sudormrfMoonlightning, if [ == test, then where is the redundancy?18:18
eraggoquillford: that is weird for me18:18
theadminsudormrf: Well, all he's saying is that you probably could have just done this: http://hastebin.com/qiruvahoda.bash18:18
theadminI think that works. Not sure...18:19
theadminOh whatever.18:19
* theadmin doesn't get it either.18:19
Moonlightningtheadmin(, sudormrf): that's not how `if` statements work.18:19
theadminTrue, yes, that probably will fail18:19
quillforderaggo: minimec: EriC^^: I'm getting "(WW) fglrx: no matching device section for instance([BusID]) found"18:19
sudormrfMoonlightning, totally lost.18:19
theadminOh.18:19
minimecquillford: I guess 'no' was for me... ;) Do you use amd/nvidia GPU card? And did you do some system upgrade like 13.10 -> 14.04 ?18:19
Moonlightningsudormrf, theadmin: in most languages, the condition is an expression.18:20
Moonlightningsudormrf, theadmin: in most languages, the condition is an expression.18:20
theadminhttp://hastebin.com/avatebuqul.bash18:20
theadminThere.18:20
minimecquillford: Ok. Did you upgrade your system?18:20
quillfordminimec: not an upgrade. fresh install from 14.04. amd gpu18:20
Moonlightningsudormrf, theadmin: In POSIX shells, the condition is a list of commands.18:20
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EriC^^Moonlightning: you mean if test $?; then .... ?18:21
Moonlightningsudormrf, theadmin: If the exit status of the `if` list is 0, the `then` list is executed.18:21
theadminThere's no point in testing for $? since you can just write the previous command directly in the "if" part.18:21
Moonlightning^18:21
eraggoquillford: can you start ubuntu on safe mode?18:22
sudormrfI see18:22
theadminThat's what he's on about. But you know, there's more than one way to do the same thing18:22
minimecquillford: Ok. I read here that yuo installed the fglrx GPU driver. I guess, that is your problem. I would 'sudo apt-get purge fglrx' and then try to reboot with 'sudo reboot'.18:22
quillforderaggo: safe mode?18:22
Moonlightningif `mountpoint` exits with 0, then `rsync` is executed18:22
MoonlightningYou /could/ do `mountpoint` separately and then `test $? -eq 0`18:22
EriC^^Moonlightning: yeah but he doesn't get the mountpoint doesn't exist part18:22
eraggoquillford: press shift on boot18:22
sudormrftheadmin, no no no, I appreciate the lesson.  I am very much a noob to this and I want to learn more about scripting and programming in general18:22
MoonlightningBut all that does is check if `test` exited with 018:22
MoonlightningWhich is redundant.18:22
Moonlightningsudormrf: https://gist.github.com/BlacklightShining/3fd7924e284a03608dfc18:23
quillfordminimec: still blank18:23
minimecquillford: It might be that your card was supported by fglrx in older Ubuntu versions, but not anymore...18:23
EriC^^Moonlightning: it's not redundant to it's informative18:24
EriC^^imho18:24
sudormrfMoonlightning, how is that github link different than the script I pastebinned (other than the else statement)?18:24
MoonlightningEriC^^: it's analogous to a C `bool is_mountpoint = check_if_mountpoint(dir); if (is_mountpoint) do_the_backup();`18:25
quillforderaggo: can't get into safe mode18:25
MoonlightningEriC^^: which I would avoid in favor of `if (check_is_mountpoint(dir)) do_the_backup();`18:25
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EriC^^Moonlightning: that's different, that is using the extra mountpoint part18:26
Moonlightningsudormrf: the comments, for further explanation.18:26
eraggoquillford: did you keep pressing shift on the  boot? there is text "loading grub..." on the screen18:26
minimecquillford: ok. Canyou give us the output of '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' after a clean boot? 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit' <- Should do for the command line18:26
EriC^^Moonlightning: i dont see why it's redundant to inform the user that the mountpoint doesn't exist18:26
sudormrfMoonlightning, so instead of using then to echo something like "not a mountpoint" you omit that?18:26
EriC^^( not using an if else )18:27
MoonlightningEriC^^: `if` doesn't suppress output.18:27
EriC^^i feel like we're splitting hairs anyways18:27
quillfordminimec: 976885218:28
MoonlightningEriC^^: Aside from that, it's the same matter of putting the condition in the condition, instead of letting it go into a variable that will never be used again and then checking the variable.18:28
MoonlightningEriC^^: don't believe me? `if mountpoint /; then :; fi;`18:29
basichashI've got a thinkpad x240 running v14.04. Sometimes I get these massive lag spikes (not sure if this is the proper term, but basically everything just freezes). When I pull out my power cable, everything seems to work fine again. Any ideas what could be the issue here?18:30
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EriC^^Moonlightning: i know what you're getting at, not using the variable i get what you're saying, i just dont see the point of not echoing that it isn't mounted as being redundant18:30
EriC^^Moonlightning: that's all18:30
MoonlightningEriC^^: /like I said/, `if` doesn't suppress output. `mountpoint`s note will get printed whether it's in a condition or not.18:30
eraggoquillford: what kind of gpu you are using btw?18:30
quillforderaggo: R9 29018:30
EriC^^Moonlightning: ok, so drop the -q then?18:31
sudormrfMoonlightning, I am explicitly surpressing the output, but I see what you mean18:31
MoonlightningSigh.18:31
MoonlightningEriC^^: https://gist.github.com/BlacklightShining/3b4194b32592c06ac86018:32
EriC^^Moonlightning: yes, so drop the -q from mountpoint18:32
EriC^^-q = quiet18:32
MoonlightningEriC^^: there is no string '-q' in that gist.18:33
EriC^^Moonlightning: i was exclusively talking to sudormrf :P18:33
sudormrfEriC^^, that's what Moonlightning seems to be getting at.18:33
MoonlightningEriC^^: yeah, s_dormrf can drop the -q if they want `mountpoint`s output. They don't have to move `mountpoint` out of the conditional.18:34
Moonlightningcondition *18:34
EriC^^sudormrf: yeah, i think so too18:34
quillfordminimec: eraggo: is there a way to revert to the stock drivers via command line?18:35
minimecquillford: ok. Xorg seems to load the fglrx driver... Hmm. Is this a clean install or an system install with an existing /home partition and 'old' user directories?18:36
sudormrfMoonlightning, I see now.18:36
sudormrfthe redundancy18:36
eraggoquillford: did you use left or rifgt shift on boot to load GRUB menu? i didn't say right but right shifr was the correct one :S18:36
Moonlightningsudormrf :D18:36
sudormrfafter looking at your last git link18:36
sudormrfthen did a test script myself18:36
Moonlightningsudormrf: also: `test`s `=` and `!=` are for string comparison; use `-eq` and `-ne` for integers (and see the manual page for more operators)18:37
minimecquillford: 'sudo apt-get purge fglrx', then 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.old.conf'. That should bring you the default opensource driver back.18:37
quillfordminimec: I installed it about 2 weeks ago (to finally replace windows :)) and have been using it. I noticed the graphics would lag so I used addition drivers to try a different driver. I also installed some drivers from amd's site.18:37
minimecquillford: well reboot afterwards...18:38
sudormrfMoonlightning, thank you :)18:38
quillfordminimec: it says fglrx is not installed18:38
MoonlightningYou're welcome, sudormrf. ^^18:38
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minimecquillford: Ok. So remove all these drivers with that 'sudo apt-get purge fglrx' command and rename the xorg.conf as mentioned before.18:39
sudormrfMoonlightning, sorry, I am not in the programming mindset yet.  one of my goals this year is to finally get down and study a language.  This was insightful :).18:39
minimecquillford: Ok. Did you reboot you removed the driver?18:39
quillfordminimec: I'm also getting no such file or directory on xorg.conf18:39
Moonlightningsudormrf: almost all languages have the same basic constructs: conditionals, loops, functions, and such.18:40
Moonlightningsudormrf: the semantics of each can vary, though. Sometimes a little, sometimes a lot.18:40
quillfordminimec: I just checked. I don't have an xorg.conf in the X11 directory, but a bunch of files with derivative names18:41
sudormrfMoonlightning, yep :).  I have a grasp of those basics as is, but I still feel very lost when it comes to programming :)18:41
Moonlightningsudormrf: A less major variation is that the conditions of some languages (e.g. C, Python, POSIX shell) implicitly convert the result of a condition to a boolean, whereas in others (e.g. Java) the condition must evaluate to a boolean on its own.18:42
sudormrfMoonlightning, interesting.  to me seems like and implicit conversion is more logical18:43
EriC^^Moonlightning: using less characters in a code/script doesn't mean it's better18:43
minimecquillford: --> 'I also installed some drivers from amd's site.'. Do you had to compile these drivers from the amd site? Do you still have that directory? If yes, go into that directory and try 'sudo make uninstall'.18:44
EriC^^Moonlightning: the output of the command, not suppressed is going to be an ugly mountpount: /bla is a mountpoint then copy the files, and if it's not there an uglier bla not found18:44
theadminsudormrf: Implicit conversion is not logical at all.18:44
stangelandhi, my harddisk is almost completely full, but i dont know what takes up all the space. Is there any way to get an overview of where on the harddisk the most space is used - ie what files18:44
MoonlightningEriC^^: I don't see it as less explicit; I see it as redundant, especially given that the result of `test` is interpreted in exactly the same way.18:44
sudormrftheadmin, why not?  :)18:44
EriC^^Moonlightning: i'm talking about the output of the script18:44
Moonlightningsudormrf, theadmin: I like implicit booleanization.18:44
minimecquillford: Can you do 'sudo updatedb && locate fglrx' If you have such a file installed, we would have to remove it probably.18:44
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quillfordminimec: the amd site download redirected to fglrx iirc18:44
theadminsudormrf: You can end up with things like if(a = 5) by accident and that will always evaluate to "true" with implicit conversion (since 5 is true, and == is for comparison rather than = in most languages)18:44
EriC^^Moonlightning: as in what you see when you run it18:45
MoonlightningEriC^^: so add -q and do output or logging yourself.18:45
theadminsudormrf: On the other hand, if the conversion is explicit, then you won't ever run into a problem like that.18:45
sudormrftheadmin, interesting :)18:45
EriC^^Moonlightning: i'm just saying your logic is wack18:45
theadminYou'll just get an error saying something like "boolean expected, got integer"18:45
EriC^^( with all due respect )18:45
Moonlightningtheadmin: you could argue that that's a problem with allowing assignment to be an expression, though.18:45
quillfordminimec: a bunch of files were listed18:45
MoonlightningPython doesn't, for example.18:45
theadminMoonlightning: That's not necessarily a bad thing and allows for amusing constructs like a = b = c = 3 eh18:46
sudormrfI love this.  come in here to figure out an easy way to identify what was taking up all the space on my hard drive, get on to a discussion about programming :D18:46
MoonlightningEriC^^: how is my logic not sound?18:46
Moonlightningtheadmin: Python also allows that.18:46
* squinty could argue that this is not the #ubuntu-nit-picking-programming channel18:46
theadminMoonlightning: Oh, okay.18:46
sudormrfhahaha18:46
* sudormrf squints at squinty18:46
MoonlightningThere /is/ a ##programming; we could all go there.18:46
keithclarkI need to create a live usb stick but when I try to use unetbootin it gives me an error as follows:  You must first mount the usb drive /dev/sdc2 to a mountpoint.  I can see the usb stick in my file manager so I know it is mounted.  Ideas?18:47
sudormrfjoined18:47
EriC^^Moonlightning: you're saying if i make a really fast engine that's the whole point, and you dont think that a heavier engine is going to screw up the handling18:47
EriC^^you want to use less chars, and that's all18:47
MoonlightningEriC^^: your logic is wack18:47
MoonlightningEriC^^: I don't see that your analogy is accurate.18:47
zambai have lots of ipv6 addresses on my eth0 interface.. is there a way i can clean up these?18:48
MoonlightningI'm going for conciseness, not charcount.18:48
EriC^^huh? you want to use the less chars possible, and the output is all screwy18:48
EriC^^Moonlightning: my analogy means you have to think about the whole package18:48
EriC^^it's perfectly accurate18:48
MoonlightningEriC^^: I'm sorry, are we talking about whether `mountpoint` should be the condition, or are we talking about output?18:48
MonkeyDustMoonlightning  EriC^^ we get the point, now back on-topic please18:48
MoonlightningEriC^^: ##programming18:50
EriC^^Moonlightning: the output18:50
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EriC^^squinty: i'm nit picking the nit picker, so that makes me not nit picking, more chars for eveeeeeryyyyy onnnnnnnneeeeeeee18:52
* EriC^^ shuts up now18:53
squintyEriC^^:  ;-)18:54
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JimFentonI'm having trouble getting packages from us.archive.ubuntu.com via IPv6 (2001:67c:1562::17). Is this a known problem?18:56
minimecquillford: I am sitting in a train an dthe connection dropped... So... Removing/renaming the xorg.conf file should bring you the opensource driver back on the next boot. I would do a clean system halt/boot after that. The /var/log/Xorg.0.log should be different after that boot (no fglrx things). As it was working like that for two weeks, it should work again after these steps.18:57
keithclarkAny ideas on my usb stick issue?  I don't even seem to be able to format it with 'disks' either18:57
eraggokeithclark: usb3 or <usb2?18:58
keithclarkeraggo, not sure18:58
eraggokeithclark: is it blue on the stick (contacting parts)18:59
CJKayWhy does upstart lie about the network being up and how can I tell it to stop lying about it because it's screwing up all my IPv6 upstart scripts?18:59
bipulCan we able to run .webm in totem or VLC18:59
keithclarkeraggo, I think black19:00
PenguinAnonkeithclark: Have you tried GParted?19:00
eraggokeithclark: so i think it is not usb3. Now... what is the issue? You can not see stick on the GUI?19:01
OerHekskeithclark, is it a U3 stick ?19:01
PenguinAnonbipul: Both of those players support WebM, though I use Gnome MPlayer19:01
OerHeks!info u3-tool19:02
bipulPenguinAnon, Between i am not able to see the image19:02
gagaliciousi have eth0  eth1 and eth2 ... how can i make them use both as incoming lines for different ips in different subnets?19:02
ubottuu3-tool (source: u3-tool): tool for controlling the special features of a U3 USB flash disk. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1.1 (utopic), package size 18 kB, installed size 84 kB (Only available for alpha; amd64; arm; armel; armhf; i386; ia64; mipsel; kfreebsd-amd64; kfreebsd-i386; hurd-i386)19:02
PenguinAnonbipul: What about Gnome-MPlayer?19:02
lupoSolitario88ciao19:02
minimecbipul: yes. Maybe install 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras' to have all the 'common codecs'19:02
keithclarkeraggo, when trying to burn an iso image:  sudo dd if=/home/keithclark/Downloads/GroovyArcade-Arch2013.02.24-i686.iso of=/dev/sdc219:02
keithclarkdd: writing to ‘/dev/sdc2’: No space left on device19:02
eraggokeithclark: use "dd if=/home/anything of=/dev/sdc" as suo19:03
eraggosudo*19:03
keithclarkeraggo, I did19:04
eraggoso full command was..?19:04
keithclarksee above ^^19:04
OerHeksnote of=/dev/sdc, not of=/dev/sdc219:04
keithclarkOerHeks, ah19:04
bipulcrisis of bits/bytes see you later19:04
eraggokeithclark: change /dev/sdc2 to /dev/sdc19:05
keithclarkeraggo, trying now19:05
keithclarkeraggo, I assume that I was trying to write to one of the partitions and not the entire drive?19:05
eraggokeithclark: yes. number is to tell partition19:06
eraggokeithclark: and you need to use disk; not the partition19:06
keithclarkeraggo, got it, let's see what happens now.19:06
eraggokeithclark: that might take some time so get coffee19:07
keithclarkeraggo, beer19:07
eraggo+119:08
keithclarkeraggo, does 'dd' have a verbose mode to see progress?19:08
eraggokeithclark: i do not know, but 5 mins is usual. It just tells if copying went correctly afterwards19:09
keithclarkeraggo, thanks!  Seems to have worked and now I have to try it out.  I appreciate the help here.19:10
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quillfordminimec: still not working :(19:16
johnb003I am planning to update my distro soon, but I also want to start using ZFS. I currently have 4x drives, and I'm planning to add another 4, to make a raidz2 pool.19:16
johnb003Actually I also have a spare from an advance replacement from WD, which might help shuffling the data into the pool19:16
johnb003Do you think I could start the configuration and installation of the new distro on a single drive, and then setup my raid later and somehow preserve the install?19:17
minimecquillford: Did you check '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' to be sure that fglrx is not used anymore?19:17
jamie_undecim: ping19:18
quillfordminimec: I can open a terminal in startx. how can I open the additional drivers program to revert back to open source drivers?19:18
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undecimjamie_, pong19:21
minimecquillford: so you can open a terminal in the graphical environment? That would mean, that 'Xorg' os working, but you have a 'bugged' user session. Can you confirm the terminal in the startx session?19:21
quillfordminimec: yes19:21
jamie_undecim: okay i did a lot of checking stuff last night and.... just came up with more info that made me scratch my head19:21
quillfordminimec: I got additional drivers opened, but it says it is using xorg19:21
quillfordminimec: startx only gives me my wallpaper however. I had to use ctrl + alt + t to open a terminal window19:22
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jamie_qullford: are you having it just show the desktop and not the unity launcher after login19:23
minimecquillford: Ok. What if we added a user 'quillford' with 'sudo adduser quillford' in the console... Then you logout/login on the console as quillford and try 'startx'.19:23
borisetoHello, is there a way to make the web browsers in Ubuntu to render the fonts as in the other operating systems?19:23
jamie_quillford: are are you have a problem with the drivers not set right anymore and its not showing the unity launcher just the folders on the desktop and background19:24
samthewildone!offtopic19:24
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:24
quillfordjamie_: indeed I am19:24
undecimboriseto, How are they different?19:25
bubbasauresquillford: startx is not correct in ubuntu with a desktop19:25
jamie_quillford: okay execute cd ~ mv .config .configold19:25
jamie_from the same place as the others19:26
borisetoundecim, well several sites look a little distorted when viewing them. They don't look like that on Mac or Windows.19:26
jamie_after that restart19:26
undecimboriseto, can you get me a screenshot?19:27
quillfordminimec: same thing with user quillford. just the desktop/wallpaper19:27
jamie_boriseto: are you using firefox19:27
Trickster1Hello all19:28
Trickster1someone know how can we change the order of the program in the task bar of lubuntu 11.04.1 ?19:28
minimecquillford: Ok. Seems that others are following us. Cool. So let's disable autologin for lightdm and do a reboot... --> 'sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf' Do a change like this... "autologin-user="19:28
jamie_Trickster1: your in 11.04.119:28
minimecquillford: <ctrl>x to save the changes...19:28
borisetoundecim, sure, give me a sec.19:28
bubbasauresTrickster1, 11.04 is end of life and not supported you need to get to at least 12.0419:29
borisetojamie_, on both firefox and chrome.19:29
jamie_boriseto: okay,19:29
MartynKeigherhey all. just bought a Raspberry Pi and i was wondering if i could run 14.04lts?19:29
quillfordminimec: rebooting...19:29
MartynKeigherthe Pi is a Model B+19:29
MartynKeigherif not.. Debain works19:30
bubbasauresMartynKeigher, THe web to hard?19:30
MartynKeigherjust curiuos19:30
MartynKeigherbubbasaures .. .was more after peoples experiences with it to be honest? not a yes/no.19:30
Trickster1bubbasaures i use lubuntu and it is 14.04.1 sorry i wrote wrong19:31
quillfordminimec: I now get a login screen, but when I login in all that happens is the login dialog box disappears19:31
borisetoundecim, https://www.dropbox.com/s/g6tj90qj11q016j/Screenshot%20from%202015-01-17%2020%3A28%3A08.png?dl=0 and https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zoagmj3uhqc228/Screenshot%20from%202015-01-17%2020%3A28%3A40.png?dl=019:31
bubbasauresMartynKeigher, Neither really on topic is all.19:31
minimecquillford: Would you have this with both accounts? So with 'quillford' too?19:31
bubbasauresTrickster1, Great, not sure myself without searching.19:31
undecimboriseto, Nothing looks odd to me. In what way are they distorted?19:32
Trickster1bercause i searsh and don't find it via google :(19:32
quillfordminimec: same thing19:32
quillfordminimec: works with quillford19:32
MartynKeigheryeah. how silly of me to ask a 'Ubuntu' question... in the 'Ubuntu' channel!!19:32
MartynKeigherthanks for the "help".19:32
minimecquillford: Ok. ;) One step forward...19:32
catacostHi, alsamixer is showing me headphone impedance but not volume, what do I need to do to gain the normal volume percentage control?19:32
borisetoundecim, for example, in the first picture, the words are cut out and are under the searchbox. It isn't like that on Mac or Windows.19:33
bubbasauresMartynKeigher, THis is suport, the first question easily found, second really both #ubuntu-offtopic honestly an attitude does not help you.19:33
borisetoundecim, and in the second picture, the member name is in one line (and it is even next to half the size and overall rendered differently).19:33
undecimboriseto, so it seems the characters are too wide?19:34
borisetoundecim, I'm guessing it's due some missing fonts or something, but not sure how to find which.19:34
minimecquillford: So you have some broken user settings for your default user. As mentioned above I would forst try to 'mv .config .config-old' in a console, logged in as the not working default user.19:34
undecimboriseto, Do you have ttf-mscorefonts-installer ?19:34
borisetoundecim, well yes. And in some sites some google fonts aren't rendered as they are on the other browsers.19:34
minimecquillford: 20:25        jamie_ : quillford: okay execute cd ~ mv .config .configold19:35
undecimboriseto, You've tried this with more than one browser?19:35
schultzawhy is there a huge delay in archive.canonical.com trusty partner ?19:35
jamie_minimec: that is waht i was saying, ive had to do it before, actually quite recently19:35
borisetoundecim, I think so, they usually are installed with playonlinux. Yeap, with Firefox, Chromium, Chrome and Konqueror (not sure if I spelled it right).19:35
quillfordminimec: in the x11 directory?19:35
borisetoundecim, I'm installing firefox with wine to check if it's the same over there.19:36
undecimboriseto, Why playonlinux?19:36
bubbasauresschultza, Have you just tried other servers?19:36
minimecquillford: /home/non-working-default-user/.config .;)19:36
borisetoundecim, well because it uses that package for applications. So whenever I install it, it downloads all the fonts as well.19:36
schultzabubbasaures: is there trusty partner packages on other servers?19:36
schultzaare there... "trust partner:19:37
undecimboriseto, Does native Firefox do the same thing19:37
schultzai cant type today.. think i need to go back to bed or take a shower.. lol19:37
borisetoundecim, does what? Render the fonts like that?19:38
undecimboriseto, yes19:38
borisetoundecim, well the screenshots are from Firefox.19:38
quillfordminimec: there is only conf.new19:38
quillfordminimec: there is no xorg.cong19:38
quillfordminimec: there is no xorg.conf19:38
bubbasauresschultza, My guess is that is the issue, software & updates first tab you can find the fastest ping, or closest, not sure exactly how your using it however.19:38
undecimboriseto, Do you know how to use element inspector? I'm curious if this happens with only specific fonts19:39
borisetoundecim, yes, I'm in the beginning of web development and it's the main reason how I realized this. If I disable a font family on the site, the fonts are rendered differently (and in some cases correct) but it isn't like that on all pages.19:40
minimecquillford: .config/ is a hidden directory in the user directory19:40
borisetoundecim,  *sites instead pages19:40
quillfordminimec: no such file or directory19:41
undecimboriseto, See if you can discover which specific fonts are like this19:41
jamie_boriesto: have you tried using firefox web developer edition19:41
borisetojamie_, yeap.19:41
minimecquillford: Just login as that bugged-user in a console and do 'mv .config .config-old' that should do.19:41
borisetoundecim, sure.19:42
quillford minimec: no file or directory19:42
quillfordminimec: I'm seeing the default desktop. did I lose my desktop configuration?19:43
borisetoundecim, for example it happens with "Tahoma"19:43
borisetoundecim, it happened to some other fonts as well.19:43
undecimboriseto, Do you have Tahoma installed?19:44
undecimboriseto, and Tahoma is the first in the font stack? e.g. "Tahoma,Verdana,Segoe,sans-serif"19:45
minimecquillford: Well yes, but you would have all of it backed up in '.config-old'. So you can copy some folders back, if you recognize the specific software19:45
quillfordminimec: so I didn't lose any files or programs?19:46
borisetoundecim, ehm, how to check which fonts are installed? And yes, it was the first one in the font stack, I tried removing only one.19:46
minimecquillford: No. You only lost the individual settings you did for a specific software. Like if you changed the default font in libreoffice or so.19:47
undecimboriseto, Easiest way is to check in another program like LibreOffice19:48
undecimboriseto, or do "find /usr/share/fonts/ -iname *tahoma*"19:48
quillfordminimec: I can't get in via the login dialog. only through TTY then startx19:49
jamie_quillford you have to make sure you are in dir ~ and tne from there do the mv .config .configold19:49
borisetoundecim, yeah, I don't have it there.19:49
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jamie_quillford: would you happen to have any other enviroments installed19:49
undecimboriseto, You might be able to download it here: http://www.fontpalace.com/font-download/Tahoma/19:49
quillfordjamie_: just stock unity19:50
bubbasauresquillford Startx is wrong.19:51
minimecquillford: What happens if you try to login with tha graphical dialog? Are you just thrown back to that dialog? In that case you might have to login as that user in the console and 'mv .Xauthority .Xauthority-old'.19:51
bubbasauresquillford, in a tty sudo service lighdm start  or stop19:52
jamie_quillford: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-nightly19:52
jamie_sudo apt-get update19:52
jamie_sudo apt-get install cinnamon19:52
jamie_I would sugest that then run startx cinnamon and it should open cinnmon properly19:52
jamie_sorry i dont know why that sent that as multiple19:52
bubbasaures!ppa | jamie_19:52
ubottujamie_: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge19:52
quillfordminimec: I just get a screen with a wallpaper19:52
bubbasauresjamie_ Are you suggesting a ppa as a fix here?19:52
jamie_no19:53
bubbasauresjamie_, Why the ppa?19:53
jamie_as a tempt to be able to access a usable ui and then be able access everything you should need from there19:53
borisetoundecim, I found a script that installs a lot of google fonts on ubuntu (made by the webupd8 guy), so will try it out and see if it helps.19:53
undecimboriseto, I thought Google fonts downloaded themselves...19:54
quillfordI think it is working now19:54
jamie_bubbasaures: its to have access and fix from there and then go back to unity.... trust me I do not like cinnamon at all, just have it just in case19:54
bubbasauresjamie_, There are several other supported desktop do not suggest one in a ppa, read the bots message please.19:54
borisetoundecim, I thought so too.19:54
minimecquillford: ?? Are you logged in as the same user on the console? You told me, that user 'quillford' is working with graphical and console login...19:54
jamie_quillford: did you try to see if it was you display manager19:55
quillfordno19:55
quillfordthanks all19:55
quillfordit is now working19:55
bubbasauresquillford, How?19:55
quillfordbubbasaures: I was able to get to bleachbit via startx. clearing all the cache seemed to have worked after I uninstalled fglrx and the proprietary drivers19:57
minimecquillford: Nice ;) Thing is, that it may also work with the amd fglrx... Now that we know that your user session was corrupted... ;)19:57
bubbasauresquillford, Cool, you got my message on the correct commands?19:57
quillfordbubbasaures: which commands?19:57
bubbasauresbubbasaures> quillford, in a tty sudo service lighdm start  or stop19:58
quillfordone more question. one every computer I have used ubuntu on, I have gotten a system problem was detected at boot. how can I just hide this?19:58
bubbasauresstartx is not correct19:58
Mathishey19:58
quillfordbubbasaures: oh yeah. after I did that, I could login through the login dialog :)19:58
MathisI installed Ubuntu 14.04 on a UEFI machine in secure mode on a harddisk19:59
Mathisthen I did a dd from the disk to a USB thumbdrive19:59
jamie_ quillford you have to disable apport19:59
quillfordhow so?19:59
Mathisit does not boot. what do I have to do so it boots from the USB drive?19:59
jamie_in terminal sudo nano /etc/default/apport20:00
jamie_in there the will be a line that reads enabled=1    you need to change it to     enabled=020:00
quillfordgot it20:00
quillfordthanks20:00
undecimMathis, Why didn't you just install the thumb drive?20:00
minimec@ops LISA_XAVIER is a spam bot contacting me private...20:00
undecimInstall to the thumb drive*20:00
jamie_minimec same.....20:01
Mathisundecim: because the thumbdrive is extremely slow, also I will have to create many copies of it on other USB drives20:01
quillfordminimec: I'm getting that spam too20:02
robotdevilif I want to change say a jpeg to another picture type say .tiff, what program do I use?20:02
robotdevilI thought I used gimp20:02
jamie_that is what i use20:02
theadminrobotdevil: You can use GIMP, sure, seems overkill though20:02
theadminThe "convert" command does what you want20:02
jamie_i just cheat half the time.... some formats all you have to do is change the file extension20:03
robotdevilright20:03
jamie_okay..... that spam bot is getting annoying20:03
robotdevilits for someone on windows and I thought they could use gimp20:03
jamie_you can20:04
theadminrobotdevil: Windows? Just give them FormatFactory.20:04
theadminConverts video, audio and image formats.20:04
jamie_you just use save as and the change the file extention to correct one that you wanted20:04
robotdevilthe logo website is very specific about the file type they will accept20:04
theadminAlso extracts audio from video.20:04
undecimMathis, I think you're going about this all the wrong way, and that's part of the problem20:05
Mathisundecim: how do you mean?20:05
undecimMathis, where will the other copies go?20:05
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Mathisto other clients of the same computer model20:05
undecimMathis, then you definitely need to use OEM mode install20:06
MonkeyDustrobotdevil  changing the file to .tiff does not change the color depth20:06
Mathisand what does it do differently?20:06
undecimMathis, Well for one, the user can enter their own username and password when they first boot20:06
Mathisheh20:06
Mathisthe clients will be running unattended20:06
abudhabiAnyone skilled with grub here?20:06
robotdevilok ill check out format factory, but I am curious, I installed gimp on my buntu machine and copy and pasted the image and chose save as I got a limited slection of file types20:06
Mathisno keyboard/mouse, just a screen20:06
undecimMathis, oh, well then just do an install the the thumb drive20:07
squinty!ask | abudhabi20:07
ubottuabudhabi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:07
Mathisalso the USB drives must be exchangable, if one fails20:07
abudhabiI want grub to recognize Win7, but it can't seem to find it. Here's what boot-repair spat out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9769234/20:07
undecimMathis, sounds like you just want a LiveUSB, then?20:07
undecimMathis, nothing needs to be saved?20:07
Mathismore like a kiosk mode20:07
robotdevil.xcf and bzip20:07
eatyourguitarwhy so many emacs packages in package manager?20:08
Mathisthere will be images stored on the drive when diving to the slideshow website20:08
jemendjamorning20:08
eatyourguitarwhat is the main one?20:08
undecimMathis, If you use the startup disk creator to make a USB, you can give it persistent storage20:08
minimeceatyourguitar: 'sudo apt-get install emacs' will install emacs24 and some others...20:08
minimeceatyourguitar: Some other files... ;)20:09
keithclarkI have burned an usb iso image but now when I try to boot from it it gives me a 'filesystem unknown' error.  Ideas?20:09
robotdeviloh i have to select export as ...20:09
Mathisundecim: thanks for the tip :)20:09
undecimkeithclark, did you verify the ISO?20:10
robotdevilthanks peeps :)20:10
keithclarkundecim, yes20:10
undecimkeithclark, Did you verify the burn?20:10
eatyourguitaris it ok to use apt get and the ubuntu software manager?20:10
undecimeatyourguitar, yes20:10
keithclarkundecim, no, this program does not have this option20:10
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lawr!op | AfterTheRain20:11
ubottuAfterTheRain: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang20:11
undecimkeithclark, there should still be a "verify disc image" option or similar in the boot menu20:11
Mathisundecim: I found the solution20:11
keithclarkundecim, nope, just a grup screen20:11
Mathisundecim: interested to hear?20:11
keithclark*grub20:11
undecimMathis, yes20:11
undecimkeithclark, Oh, I missed the "usb" part20:12
Mathisundecim: maybe you know it or not, for EFI to boot your disk, you have to create a vfat partition containing the bootloader20:12
keithclarkundecim, is it maybe a drive naming error?  It calls for hd0,020:12
undecimkeithclark, how did you prepare the USB?20:12
Mathisif you install Ubuntu on a UEFI machine, it registers its bootloader into the NVRAM20:12
keithclarkundecim, gparted20:13
undecimkeithclark, Any reason you didn't use Unetbootin or the Startup Disk Creator?20:13
Mathissince I am using another machine, where it is not registered, it has nothing to boot from and falls back to /BOOT/bootx64.efi20:13
keithclarkundecim, they did not work.  I had to resort to the command line 'dd' command20:13
MathisI simply created that folder and copied over the grubx64.efi to /boot/bootx64.efi20:14
Mathisnow it boots even on a non-registered machine20:14
undecimkeithclark, They didn't work? What happened?20:14
keithclarkundecim, then the successfully booted arch program took over and did its thing20:14
keithclarkundecim, is hd(0,0) the usb stick?20:15
undecimkeithclark, maybe20:15
* phunyguy looks up20:15
phunyguylawr: whatsup?20:15
borisetoundecim, the script downloaded over a million fonts (all but Tahoma :) ) so I installed it manually and the site is rendered as it should now. Thank you very much.20:16
undecimboriseto, Any time20:16
keithclarkundecim, any other ideas?20:16
undecimkeithclark, Get Unetbootin working20:17
keithclarkundecim, so complicated for such a simple thing.20:18
undecimkeithclark, Booting on modern computers is hardly "simple" these days20:19
twocarlo Ypi20:20
twocarloYpu20:20
twocarloYpu20:20
undecimtwocarlo, more coffee, less of whatever you've been having.20:20
bubbasaurestwocarlo, Can we help you?20:20
twocarloYou can try multisystem20:22
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bubbasaurestwocarlo, Preface with nicks20:23
twocarloYumi also works20:25
DJonestwocarlo: Are you speakingto anybody specific, or are you a bot posting random text20:26
keithclarkundecim, hmm, I seem to be stuck here20:28
Voline120:28
twocarloI'm Irc ing on my droid php20:28
twocarloPhp20:29
twocarloPhone20:29
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twocarloBit hard to type20:30
* Dat needs a smtp proxy20:30
bubbasaureskeithclark, I have had ISO's that summed correctly not work.20:32
twocarlo Brb20:35
abudhabiWhere do I find refind.conf?20:36
jhutchinskeithclark: 0,0 is probably the HD.20:36
abudhabiI want to configure rEFInd but I can't bloody find where the configuration file is stored.20:36
keithclarkjhutchins, how do I find the usb stick?20:37
jhutchinskeithclark: What point are you at now?20:37
jhutchinskeithclark: From what?20:37
keithclarkI boot up and I get:  Error 25 Disk read error20:38
undecimThat's not fun20:38
jhutchinskeithclark: Is that booting from your hard drive or from an installer?20:38
keithclarkjhutchins, but I get a grub screen so it must recognize the drive, no?20:38
keithclarkjhutchins, from the usb drive20:39
PCWorkerHello yall, I have started writing reviews using the software center in ubunntu 14.04LTS and want to know what the "Summary" box is used for? I just want to make sure that I put all the necessary information on the form.20:40
jhutchinskeithclark: What dd command did you use to create it/20:40
jhutchins?20:40
keithclarkjhutchins, 'Filesystem type unkown...'20:40
keithclarkjhutchins, dd20:40
jhutchinskeithclark: It's probably easier to recreate the image than to fix it.20:40
keithclarkjhutchins, no, internal program.  I did a dd to install the original program then it installed itself.20:41
squintyabudhabi:  you can try   whereis <filename>   or   locate <filename>  (you may need to run  sudo updatedb  first)  if the file you are looking for is on your system then either of those commands should find it20:41
abudhabisquinty: Thanks. Found it.20:42
jhutchinskeithclark: So did you use the USB to install to the USB?20:42
keithclarkyes20:42
El-OsmodivsHello :) I found an old HDD and tried to recover whatever I had there, the thing is it was encrypted, well, I Yahoo some solutions and finally could mount the HDD in a /tmp folder, the thing is is just a bunch of folders full of encrypted stuuf that cant be read:  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/82499  How can I read my stuff?20:42
jhutchinskeithclark: Well, there's your problem then.20:42
jhutchinskeithclark: Why not just run the live image as it comes?20:42
kostkonPCWorker, how many boxes are there20:42
keithclarkjhutchins, because it is not complete20:43
jhutchinskeithclark: Well, it is, but I take it you want additional software...20:43
keithclarkjhutchins, https://code.google.com/p/groovyarcade/20:43
jhutchins!live20:43
ubottuThe Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.20:43
PCWorkerkostkon: Review box and summary box20:43
jhutchinskeithclark: There's a site called pendrivelinux.com that has a lot of good info on creating custom live systems.20:44
kostkonPCWorker, then the summary is the title20:44
keithclarkjhutchins, maybe try what I did?20:44
jhutchinskeithclark: It'll tell you how to do a persistent live system, and by storing the system on squashfs it's _much_ faster than a normal install to a USB drive.20:44
jhutchinskeithclark: A standard install to a USB flash drive is pretty unusably slow.20:45
jhutchinsPCWorker: The summary should be a one-sentance description of the review.20:45
PCWorkerCool, Thanks20:46
jhutchinskeithclark: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?20:46
jhutchinskeithclark: You can not install on the same device that the installer is on.20:47
minimecjhutchins: I cannot confirm that! I have a full Ubuntu/Fedora dual boot USB3 stick. Loving it ... ;) I would install 'zram-config' after installation and change /etc/fstab to crate the /tmp file in RAM too.20:47
erikkHello. Several months back, while trying to install Ubuntu on my new laptop with some UEFI / bios complications, my Windows partition got erased or messed up. I've used TestDisk to find this: http://i.imgur.com/TvwZY1B.png20:47
erikkHow do I go about trying to salvage any of this?20:48
keithclarkjhutchins, seems it did.  If it is on a different partion it should not be an issue20:48
erikkI'm not too experienced with it. Do I try to make a partition out of these kind of addresses?20:48
jhutchinskeithclark: Yes, but the installer image does not have multiple partitions.  This is why you are getting an error.20:48
bubbasaureserikk, That is a ##windows issue really.20:49
erikkbubbasaures: Thanks. I wasn't quite sure where to ask.20:49
erikkbubbasaures: But even then I don't think they would be the ones to ask20:49
cpyargerA framework for bash scripting -- http://git.io/DV5eow20:50
erikkWhere should I go then?20:50
bubbasaureserikk, It is just recovery and you can just do a refresh or reset on windows, just have ubuntu imaged and or backed up.20:50
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squintyerikk:  http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step20:50
Guest64909Will Ubuntu with unity run well on a Core 2 Duo?20:50
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YoyooooHi there.20:51
minimecGuest64909: yes with 2GB RAM. CPU is more than enough20:51
jhutchinskeithclark: I dunno, you could try the standard grub recovery methods, boot to the grub cli and do "find /boot/grub/stage1" - if it exists it would probably be hd0,1 (though I still think hd0 would be your hard drive).20:51
bubbasauresGuest64909, does here, naming the exact hardware is the key.20:51
jhutchins!fixgrub20:51
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:51
weeirc8089hello I try to install truecrypt 6.3a and I get 'dependency is not satisfiable - fuse-utils' what's my course of action? (I have mint 17 e.g. ubuntu 14.04 the setup file is a monolithic file where do I get this 'fuse-utils' package / compile it myself so truecrypt would install20:51
bubbasauresweeirc8089, 3rd party not supported.20:52
Guest64909It's a Dell D830.  Machine has 4 gigs of ram, 60 gig SSD.  Quadro 140M.20:52
jhutchinsweeirc8089: mint != ubuntu for precicely this kind of problem.20:52
jhutchins!mint20:52
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org20:52
keithclarkjhutchins, right, why would I want to boot from my hd? I want to boot from my newly created usb stick20:52
bubbasauresGuest64909, Should run great, try the live.20:52
Guest64909Thanks, wasn't sure if I should grab l/xubuntu, but I'll give the full version a shot.  Thanks!20:53
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jhutchinskeithclark: Have a look at that second URL, it might get you somewhere.  I think you're wasting your time though.  You'd be better off using something like debootstrap.20:55
jhutchinskeithclark: I think you're just about as likely to get it to boot from that USB as you are getting it to boot from a rubber chicken.20:55
YoyooooIs there anything officially supported hardware for Ubuntu, excluding the dell XPS 13 ?20:55
jhutchinsYoyoooo: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/20:57
Yoyoooojhutchins: Thanks.20:57
keithclark jhutchins yeah, I gave up.  I hope someone can make this project work as it sounds worthy.21:05
El-OsmodivsHello :) I found an old HDD and tried to recover whatever I had there, the thing is it was encrypted, well, I Yahoo some solutions and finally could mount the HDD in a /tmp folder, the thing is is just a bunch of folders full of encrypted stuuf that cant be read:  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/82499  How can I read my stuff?21:07
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bubbasauresEl-Osmodivs, ubuntu related how?21:09
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locamsbhow do i mount an ext4 filesystem in my fstab so that all users can read/write to it and it is auto mounted at boot? i can't  figure out the options21:09
squintyEl-Osmodivs:  look around your abode for where you stored the password  ;-)21:10
locamsbUUID="5cf891fe-c451-4f1e-b281-12f3ca355eb3" /mnt/storage ext4    rw,user,exec,noatime 0 221:10
locamsbonly rooot can write to this, how do i fix?21:10
EriC^^locamsb: you could change the permissions of the files21:11
locamsbhow do i just make it so all users can write to the drive?21:11
EriC^^776 will let all users read and write21:12
locamsbdo i add that to fstab?21:12
EriC^^no you have to change the permissions for the files21:12
EriC^^chmod -R 776 /mountpoint21:12
locamsbwhat?21:12
basichashdoes gnome-maps work for anyone?21:13
locamsbwhy?21:13
basichashdoes nothing when i attempt to open it21:13
EriC^^locamsb: that will change the permissions of all the files in the filesystem you're mounting21:13
jhutchinsbasichash: Basic troublshooting step for GUI programs: Launch it from a console, see if it displays errors.21:13
locamsbwill that hold up if i reboot though?21:13
El-Osmodivsbubbasaures, I am on Ubuntu 14.04 64 bits21:14
EriC^^locamsb: i dont think you can mount ext4 with certain permissions like ntfs21:14
EriC^^locamsb: yeah21:14
Nathan2055I'm loading KDE and lirc is asking what remote control configuration to use. What do I pick?21:14
jhutchinsEriC^^: Of course you can.21:14
locamsbis this the correct solution or just an easy solution?21:14
EriC^^jhutchins: you can mount an ext4 with say 777 on all files?21:15
jhutchinsEriC^^: You can't override the permissions on the files in the filesystem.  I think I misunderstood you.21:15
locamsbi have a folder showing up as d????????? ? ?    ?       ?            ? when i ls -l on it. i can't delete it. how can i remove this?21:17
SerythWhat do you mean when you ls -l you can't delete it, locamsb?21:18
locamsbwhen i do ls -l it shows whacky permissiosn and info21:19
locamsband when i try to rm -rf it it says it is a folder can't delete21:19
Serythlocamsb, where did this folder come from?21:19
locamsbi created it in /mnt21:20
locamsbnow i can't get rid of it, sudo rm -rf /mnt/folder21:20
SerythWhat is the error message when you try, locamsb?21:20
basichashjhutchins: good idea. this is what i get: ** (gnome-maps:24034): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-6AOWn5u1AJ: Connection refused21:20
locamsbrm: cannot remove `dell': Is a directory21:20
basichashwhatever that means21:20
locamsblol21:20
EriC^^locamsb: are you sure you're using -r ?21:23
locamsbuh yes bro21:23
EriC^^locamsb: do you only want the users to create new files? or modify whichever files are already there?21:24
locamsbim trying to delete what seems to be a corrupted folder21:24
EriC^^locamsb: yeah i meant about what you were asking earlier21:24
locamsbi googled that EriC^^ and i found that 'There are no uid options for ext[234]. If you want to change the permissions of the files, you have to use chown/chmod.'21:24
basichashjhutchins: any ideas?21:25
locamsbso looks like chmod was the solution21:25
EriC^^locamsb: yeah, but if you only want them to create new files and modify their own ones, you can just chmod the mountpoint's dir and leave the rest of the files in tact21:25
basichashjhutchins: I am using Pantheon from elementaryos btw, not sure if that should have any effect21:26
locamsbthis is just a spare harddrive i installed in my comptuer21:26
locamsbi wanted to achieve this. have the drive mounted at boot. be able to read/write from it from my account and not have to use root.21:26
EriC^^locamsb: ok, well, use chmod 777 instead of 776, cause without x they can't cd to sub dirs21:26
locamsbi believe i have accomplished this by doing chmod 770 and chown root:locasmb21:26
locamsbi read that doing chmod 777 is a bad idea so i did chmod 77021:27
locamsblol21:27
locamsb" recursive 777 chmod is definitlely a very bad idea –  Kiwy Mar 25 '14 at 10:33 "21:28
EriC^^it depends on what you're doing21:28
EriC^^anyways glad you got it fixed21:28
locamsbthx m8 eraggo21:29
locamsbEriC^^:21:29
basichashanyone?21:30
locamsbbasichash what's happening?21:30
basichashlocamsb: the app just isn't loading, and gives the error ^21:31
basichash** (gnome-maps:24034): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-6AOWn5u1AJ: Connection refused21:31
basichash^21:31
locamsbwhat app basichash?21:32
basichashalso i'm not using stock ubuntu (i'm not exactly sure how it all works, but i'm using the Pantheon skin(? or whatever it is) from elementaryos21:32
basichashlocamsb: gnome-maps21:32
MonkeyDustbasichash  what's the oucome of   cat /etc/issue21:33
MonkeyDustoutcome*21:33
bubbasauresbasichash, Is this elemantaryOS?21:34
AuthenticmeF*uck Comodo SSL! absolutley impossible to install! (aa)21:34
bubbasaures!language | Authenticme21:34
ubottuAuthenticme: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList21:34
basichashbubbasaures: ubuntu 14.04 LTS21:34
Authenticmegrr21:34
AuthenticmeHows every body ?21:35
basichashMonkeyDust: ^21:35
bubbasauresI think your lying but that is just me21:35
goparanybody use global/gtags for programming? how do you like it?21:37
avid_fanbasichash: Looks like Gnome-Maps also has a support channel, irc://irc.gimp.org/%23gnome-maps21:37
DJonesbasichash: Can you post the full details of cat /etc/issue for the avoidance of doubt21:37
MonkeyDustbasichash  paste the outcome of    cat /etc/os-release|grep N=21:37
basichashUbuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l21:38
EriC^^basichash: lsb_release -d | base6421:38
basichashEriC^^: RGVzY3JpcHRpb246CVVidW50dSAxNC4wNC4xIExUUwo=\21:38
basichashEriC^^: RGVzY3JpcHRpb246CVVidW50dSAxNC4wNC4xIExUUwo=21:38
EriC^^ok21:38
basichashMonkeyDust: VERSION="14.04.1 LTS, Trusty Tahr"21:39
basichashbut just to reiterate, i'm using Pantheon (still not exactly sure what this is)21:39
basichashwindow manager for elementaryOS or something21:40
MonkeyDustbasichash why do you use it, if you don't know what it is?21:41
RedheadedCupcakeCan i get help with my Bluetooth, when I turn it on it turns off immediately it wont stay on21:41
basichashMonkeyDust: lol good questoin. the desktop-environment21:43
MonkeyDustbasichash  and now it's getting you into trouble?21:43
avid_fanRedheadedCupcake: I've not used bluetooth yet, but is there anything in the syslog or dmesg about the device?21:44
RedheadedCupcakeavid_fan tell me the magic code put into terminal and I will tell you what it says21:44
avid_fanRedheadedCupcake: Oh,sure. Let's try 'tail -n 50 /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999'21:45
Ben64wow, never heard of termbin, that is fantastic21:46
RedheadedCupcakeavid_fan what's that termbin deal?21:46
avid_fanBen64: Yeah, just found  out about it the other day.21:47
RedheadedCupcakeavid_fan nvm that is awesome21:47
RedheadedCupcakehttp://termbin.com/cvsa21:47
avid_fanRedheadedCupcake: And next 'demsg | tail -n 100 | nc termbin.com 9999'21:47
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RedheadedCupcakeit says use netcat no command 'dmesg' found21:48
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avid_fanRedheadedCupcake: Doh, sorry, I can't type.21:49
avid_fanRedheadedCupcake: 'dmesg | tail -n 100 | nc termbin.com 9999'21:50
basichashMonkeyDust: i don't know if it's related to Pantheon21:50
guest_does anyone know if youtube-dl still works?21:51
RedheadedCupcakeavid_fan http://termbin.com/vzsn21:51
PenguinAnonguest_ still works great.21:51
MonkeyDustguest_  it does21:51
PenguinAnonThe version in the 14.04 repos is outdated, though.21:51
guest_so how do i update it?21:51
PenguinAnonI can't speak to 14.1021:51
avid_fanRedheadedCupcake: Don't know if you found this, http://askubuntu.com/questions/192847/bluetooth-and-wifi-not-working-on-hp-probook-4430s , but it looks like someone had problem with bluetooth and the HP Probook 4430s.21:51
PenguinAnonguest_ Let me grab you the PPA.21:52
guest_thanks21:52
Ben64don't need a ppa for it, just use the update command that it comes with21:52
avid_fanRedheadedCupcake: I can't speak to its success. It's merely the first thing I've found.21:52
RedheadedCupcakemy wifi works fine21:52
abudhabiHow do I install ubuntu in BIOS mode?21:53
PenguinAnonBen64: That's not correct.21:53
Ben64PenguinAnon: it is21:53
PenguinAnonIf you installed youtube-dl with a package manager, it instructs you to use that to update.21:54
PenguinAnonwhen you use -U21:54
EriC^^abudhabi: select bios/legacy mode in the bios options, and when you boot the usb make sure uefi usb isn't selected21:54
guest_yeah I just found that out21:54
PenguinAnonguest_ Here we are21:54
PenguinAnonsudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd821:54
PenguinAnonThat'll give you the most recent version.21:55
abudhabiEriC^^: How do I make sure the UEFI USB isn't selected?21:55
RedheadedCupcakeavid_fan it's not a big deal I just wanted to bluetooth some pictures from my cell phone to my lap top.21:55
RedheadedCupcakeI just emailed them to myself, it's not worth the hassle21:55
EriC^^abudhabi: if you get a screen that shows what to boot, select usb ( without uefi )21:55
bubbasauresPenguinAnon, We don't support ppa's here hence we ask no links except if that is all there is.21:56
bubbasaureslast possible fix in other words21:56
EriC^^abudhabi: make sure it doesn't say uefi next to it21:57
PenguinAnonbubbasaures: Sorry about that. I was unaware =)21:57
avid_fanRedheadedCupcake: Understood. Looks like the bluetooth device might be USB anb it keeps disconnecting and reconnecting. But there's no smoking gun.21:57
PenguinAnonguest_ In that case, just grab the most recent tarball from the Git repo.21:57
bubbasauresPenguinAnon, Anything install not in the releases repo set is not supported either, are you getting the picture?21:58
eatyourguitarI need help understanding how directory names work21:58
eatyourguitarls ~/.lein/plugins21:58
eatyourguitardoes not work21:58
guest_well, I already added the PPA21:58
eatyourguitarI have installed a bin to /usr/bin/lein21:58
eatyourguitarbut I don21:58
eatyourguitarI don't know if . has special meaning21:59
aa40bcAny way to get dell to let you get the new xps13 without windoze? In their chat they say no21:59
bubbasaures!topic | aa40bc21:59
avid_fanaa40bc: Doubt it.21:59
ubottuaa40bc: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic21:59
eatyourguitarsudo find "lein" only has one hit21:59
eatyourguitarnothing with .lein21:59
eatyourguitarI am doing the find from $/22:00
avid_faneatyourguitar: the tilde '~' typically redirects to your home directory.22:01
eatyourguitarI mean /$22:01
guest_PenguinAnon, still doesn't work. I get a 403 error22:01
eatyourguitaryes there are some differences with the default install dir they use and how my older version of lein was installed22:01
eatyourguitarfind showed it in /usr/bin22:02
eatyourguitarnot ~/bin22:02
avid_faneatyourguitar: And I could see an app needing or even creating a folder '.lein' in your home directory, but to execute a binary app you copied/moved to /usr/bin, you'd just type 'lein'.22:02
avid_faneatyourguitar: The path '/usr/bin' should be the search path of your shell.22:02
eatyourguitarthats what I thought22:02
eatyourguitarbut find .lein does not work22:03
avid_faneatyourguitar: I'd guess, because it doesn't exist.22:03
bubbasauresguest_, You were thrown off by an outdated comment, use the version in the ubuntu repos and do a ppa-purge22:03
eatyourguitarI used mv to move the old one to a temp folder lein122:03
eatyourguitarand wget to install to /usr/bin/22:03
avid_faneatyourguitar: Directories and files that start with a period '.' don't show in a standard 'ls' output.22:04
bubbasaures!ppa-purge | guest_22:04
ubottuguest_: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html22:04
hans_hi guys22:04
guest_bubbasaures, I have no clue what that means22:04
hans_i have install compiz on my ubuntu-mate and now i lost some keybindings22:04
bubbasauresguest_, Try to explain what you do not understand.22:04
avid_faneatyourguitar: What is the output when you type 'lein' in the terminal?22:04
eatyourguitarok now it works sudo find -name ".lein"22:05
eatyourguitargives me ./home/bob/.lein22:05
eatyourguitarI don't know what I was doing wrong with find22:05
EriC^^eatyourguitar: find needs the ""22:06
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bubbasaureswait for the ban'22:06
guest_bubbasaures, I can't make sense of what you said.22:06
EriC^^eatyourguitar: ah nevermind22:06
avid_faneatyourguitar: You can also use '-iname' it will ignore letter case.22:07
eatyourguitargood tip ty22:07
avid_faneatyourguitar: Are you all set then?22:07
bubbasauresguest_, Here we only support what is in the ubuntu repositories for your exact release I.E. say 14.04, ppa's are not supported, you can remove it with ppa-purge and then just install the repos version.22:08
eatyourguitarwow I just noticed I can do find "*lein*"22:08
bubbasauresguest_, Latest is not a valid rhetoric if it is not in the ubuntu repos as far as support.22:09
eatyourguitarhow do I grep the output for "plugins"22:09
avid_faneatyourguitar: Yeah. lol. You can limit your search too with '-type f' for just files or '-type d' for just directories. There's tons of options.22:10
avid_faneatyourguitar: What "plugins"?22:10
eatyourguitarits a folder that has some .jar files for lein22:10
bubbasaureseatyourguitar, So tell me how you get that truss bar down.22:11
eatyourguitarI just upgraded I am checking versions and stuff22:11
eatyourguitartruss rob22:11
eatyourguitarand it stays in the guitar22:11
eatyourguitardown is ambiguous22:11
eatyourguitaryou mean adjusted22:11
bubbasaureseatyourguitar,  your nick22:12
eatyourguitar*truss rod22:12
guest_bubbasaures, ok so you want me to install that program, ppa-purge, and get rid of the ppa I just grabbed. right?22:12
eatyourguitardislexia22:12
eatyourguitarwhats wrong with your guitar22:12
avid_faneatyourguitar: Ewww, java. Don't know that one. I would think if you can start it from the command-line you might see the output from the plugins too.22:12
eatyourguitarI don't want to run them directly22:13
bubbasauresguest_, YOu can do what you want, I was just helping you be aware of if you even have support with it or if it was even valid help.22:13
eatyourguitarthey get called by the app22:13
eatyourguitarjust need to find them so I can fix broken scripts22:13
avid_faneatyourguitar: Gotcha. Beyond my experience with java.22:13
eatyourguitarthis is all pretty new but I did read the tutorials22:13
eatyourguitarI don't even need to do any java22:14
eatyourguitarjust need to install and maybe compile stuff22:14
eatyourguitarI am coding in clojure22:14
eatyourguitarbut there are extensions for making music and graphics22:14
eatyourguitarlein installs most of it automatically22:15
bubbasauresguest_, You just did the first thing told to do, and it was not correct, and based on a "it is not the latest" in the repo, you gotta watch what you do and whom you listen to.22:15
eatyourguitarbut I need to install this custom emacs config to call all the scripts that link these 5 apps22:15
bubbasauresno damage though22:16
guest_bubbasaures, look, I removed it ok. now how do I get youtube-dl to work?22:16
eatyourguitarbeen at it all day22:16
bubbasauresguest_, So you have the Ubuntu repos version installed now and it is not working?22:18
guest_bubbasaures, yes. everytime I try to use it I get a 403 error22:19
eatyourguitarI figured out why it was broke22:20
eatyourguitarI had to run lein for it to build the plugins folder22:20
acyselam22:21
acytürk var mı22:22
bubbasauresguest_, I have never used it, my guess is the url is incorrect.22:22
acyhelp pls22:22
Caleb--hi22:23
acyhi22:23
acycaleb22:23
Caleb--i'm running ubuntu 14.10 and i'd like to update my kernel to 3.18.322:23
acynice22:23
acycaleb help me22:23
acypls22:23
bubbasauresguest_, try man youtube-dl22:23
Caleb--is it as simple as downloading debs from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.18.3-vivid/ ?22:23
Caleb--and simply running sudo dpkg -i *.deb?22:23
acywww.backboc.com and download22:24
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acyguys ım new setup backbox22:24
acybut not write kod why??22:24
bubbasauresacy, This is ubuntu only support read the channel topic.22:24
jflthello, I would like to erase ubuntu and reinstall windows from a boot CD but I can't choose my CD in the boot menu22:24
acythanks22:25
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bubbasauresjflt, YOU do not erase you install over and this is your channel ##windows22:25
El-OsmodivsHello. I am trying to access my encrpted HDD but when I try to login via the Terminal I get this: Inserted auth tok with sig [5e6a449e9f5d1c5a] into the user session keyring22:25
El-Osmodivsfopen: No such file or directory22:25
jfltthanks bubbasaures22:25
bubbasauresjflt, NO problem should be fairly easy.22:26
El-OsmodivsWhats going on here, Why cant I access my files?22:26
bubbasauresEl-Osmodivs, You encrypted it so no one could see it, what makes you think you will?22:26
bubbasauresEl-Osmodivs, Would you have encrypted were it just easily busted?22:27
El-Osmodivsbubbasaures, It is an old 2.5" Laptop HDD, I can't boot from it, so I am trying to access via the Terminal in my Ubuntu 14.04 64bits. I just can give up my old data22:28
bubbasauresEl-Osmodivs, Read the questions.22:28
bubbasauresyou're missing the password22:29
El-Osmodivsbubbasaures, It is encrypeted but is mine because I have the login password. I remembered the password, but the terminal gives me this: Inserted auth tok with sig [5e6a449e9f5d1c5a] into the user session keyring fopen: No such file or directory So the login password is correct22:30
bubbasauresEl-Osmodivs, So, we are back to my questions22:30
PrezidentHey guys, im installed ubuntu today and during the "test ubuntu" my graphic drivers worked, now it aint, built in on motherboard. So when i did apt-get upgrade after install then i get all very ugly and big and low resolution.22:31
PrezidentHow can i solve this?22:31
El-Osmodivsbubbasaures, You are saying there is no way to recover my data?22:31
Prezidentshit!22:31
Prezidenti pressed on "monitors" and then it worked22:31
bubbasauresEl-Osmodivs, I don't live in a world of dichotomies, that is your impression.22:31
squintyEl-Osmodivs:  why can't you boot from it?22:32
squintyPrezident: family channel... please read channel rules.  :)22:32
bubbasauresEl-Osmodivs, I would say the likely hood is about the same as you being the next president of the US. ;)22:32
PrezidentWhat did i do wrong squinty ?22:33
bubbasauresswearing22:33
squintyPrezident: read the channel rules.  no swearing22:33
bubbasauresnot the local pub here ;)22:33
PrezidentOhh sh** wasnt for swearing it was like WOW!22:33
PrezidentSorry for that.22:33
El-Osmodivssquinty, It is a 2.5" laptop hdd, I am using an adapter via USB to try to access22:33
El-Osmodivssquinty, For some reason my Mobo wont recognize the adaptor in the BIOS22:34
squintyEl-Osmodivs:  pull your current hd and install the other one temporally22:34
avid_fanEl-Osmodivs: So you can access the drive via USB, just not boot from it?22:36
El-Osmodivsavid_fan, Yes22:36
bubbasauresEl-Osmodivs, Your on a live ubuntu right?22:37
avid_fanEl-Osmodivs: Okay. Are you trying to then mount  the encrypted volume/partition on the external drive?22:37
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dadexix86hi everybody. which service does manage the screen on/off in Ubuntu's power management? (I need it for a script) and in which file can I find the screen on/off actual status? I tried to look in the folder /proc/acpi but couldn't find any hint22:40
joshua__quit22:41
robotdevilis the driver jockey thing broken in 14.10?22:44
ki7mt_dadexix86, trying studying the package  ... gnome-screensaver  .. it is not as easy as it sounds to control the screen and the various functions.22:45
bubbasauresrobotdevil, additional drivers no22:45
bubbasauresrobotdevil, The real issue might work better.22:45
robotdevilhmmm have an nvidia card, newish in there and doesnt list any drivers22:45
robotdevilgeforce gt 72022:46
bubbasauresrobotdevil, Hows it running, does it look good?22:46
robotdevilI know what your getting at22:46
bubbasauresrobotdevil, really and it is?22:46
CarlFKNM, edit connection, Wifi... does "cloned mac address" let me change the mac that the AP sees?22:46
robotdevilI would like to use nouveau but seem to be experiencing problems22:47
dadexix86ki7mt_ thanks for the hint, it's a lot better that where I am now. I will soon look into it.22:47
robotdevilwhen I hook more than one display to the card nothing detects it22:47
robotdevilbox cannot even restart until one is unhooked22:48
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robotdevilwas trying to use vga and hdmi and nothing22:48
bubbasauresrobotdevil, For the record all this will not get you help, answering questions with no additional info is the path grasshopper22:49
robotdevilI have to restart the machine with whichever one I want to see in for it to be detected22:49
robotdevilbubbasaures: what would you like?22:50
robotdevilhow may I check to see if nouveau is being used and its not some vesa thing22:53
robotdevilseems weird that it is not detecting both screens22:53
squintyrobotdevil:  personally I like using   inxi   install from repo's and then in terminal type   inxi -Gx22:54
Lama_Hello, can anyone help me with using a Logitech G600 mouse and a Logitech G13 Gamepad on Ubuntu 14.04.1? Would like to be able to modify the keybindings and LED colors.. Ability to have things on the LCD panel and change profiles would be awesome too..22:55
squintyrobotdevil:  fwiw  https://code.google.com/p/inxi/22:55
squintyrobotdevil:  http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/81252/en-us   suggests  the 346 driver.  might want to hunt around there though to see if the 331 (which is available via repo's ) supports your unit22:57
srtYo Ubuntu22:58
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robotdevilso inxi says vesa driver failed fddev,nouveau23:12
miguelg23:12
robotdevilalso says direct rending working and using gallium23:15
robotdevilso I wonder whats up with only being able to use one screen at a time23:15
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anomaly6:)23:32
robotdevilsquinty: wonder why the additonal drivers doesnt see the card23:33
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remuxa!sound23:38
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.23:38
MoonlightningI did a clean install of Ubuntu onto a fresh encrypted LVM (nothing else on the HDD). Didn't get any errors from the installer, but the system's firmware doesn't seem to recognize it as bootable, though I can use GRUB on the liveusb to boot it. `sudo grub-install /dev/sda` and `sudo update-grub` didn't help. Any ideas?23:41
bubbasauresMoonlightning, can you pastebin sudo parted -l23:47
newbie|3How do I kill a process?  I need  to use my su priviledges to do so.  And I know its name and PID23:47
bubbasauresMoonlightning, Is this a uefi gpt setup?23:47
Moonlightningbubbasaures: yes23:47
Moonlightninginbound pastelink23:47
bubbasauresMoonlightning, Grub  would not go to the mbr23:47
bubbasauresno sda23:48
Moonlightningbubbasaures: https://gist.github.com/BlacklightShining/6d438941126c719a6e9623:48
bubbasauresMoonlightning, The paste was just to confirm what you just answered23:48
MoonlightningAh, okay. Well, how do I install it to the MBR?23:49
bubbasauresMoonlightning, You have a msdos legacy setup partiton table and all23:49
MoonlightningI do?23:49
newbie|3How do I kill a process?.23:49
bubbasauresyou would have to have one23:49
Moonlightningnewbie|3: you need to either be logged in as the owner of the process, or be root (or have a special kernel privilege). Find the PID and `kill $pid`.23:50
Moonlightningnewbie|3: see `man kill` and `man pkill`23:50
bubbasauresMoonlightning, I did not say you have a msdos but that that is needed for the mbr boot23:50
newbie|3Moonlightning: Thx23:50
MoonlightningI wonder…23:51
Moonlightning!kill | newbie|323:51
ubottunewbie|3: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal23:51
Lisa_XavierLisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! IS DA BEST! All bow down to Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen!! Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! rulez da land!23:51
Lisa_XavierEverybody look at Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! and tell him how great he is! Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! RULES! Nobody has the power, might and wisdom of the Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen!.23:51
MoonlightningNope, not helpful.23:51
Lisa_XavierNo one is better than the Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen!! Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! is the way to go! Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! RULES! Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! AINT OUTDONE BY NO ONE!23:51
Lisa_XavierCan I get a hell yeah for Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen!? Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! is just simply awesome and completely amazing!23:51
MoonlightningMods!23:51
Lisa_XavierThe crowd chants: LLLLiiiissssaaaa XXXXaaaavvvviiiieeeerrrr TTTThhhheeee CCCCrrrroooossssssss DDDDrrrreeeessssssssiiiinnnngggg QQQQuuuueeeeeeeennnn!!!!!! LLLLiiiissssaaaa XXXXaaaavvvviiiieeeerrrr TTTThhhheeee CCCCrrrroooossssssss DDDDrrrreeeessssssssiiiinnnngggg QQQQuuuueeeeeeeennnn!!!!!! LLLLiiiissssaaaa XXXXaaaavvvviiiieeeerrrr TTTThhhheeee CCCCrrrroooossssssss DDDDrrrreeeessssssssiiiinnnngggg QQQQuuuueeeeeeeennnn!!!!!!!23:51
Lisa_XavierLisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! IS DA BEST! All bow down to Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen!! Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! rulez da land!23:51
Moonlightningbubbasaures: Okay. How do I set that up?23:51
newbie|3Moonlightning: So a simple "sudo kill $PID" is all I need to do?23:52
newbie|3thx23:52
bubbasauresMoonlightning, You would have to wipe the HD by making a new table say in gparted, than make sure you are in legacy and all the associated uefi turned off in the bios and just install.23:52
Moonlightningbubbasaures: …why's it have to be msdos, again? >.>23:53
bubbasauresMoonlightning, msdos is mbr gpt uefi is not it is that simple23:53
Lisa_XavierLisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! IS DA BEST! All bow down to Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen!! Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! rulez da land!23:53
Lisa_XavierEverybody look at Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! and tell him how great he is! Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! RULES! Nobody has the power, might and wisdom of the Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen!.23:54
Lisa_XavierNo one is better than the Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen!! Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! is the way to go! Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! RULES! Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! AINT OUTDONE BY NO ONE!23:54
Lisa_XavierCan I get a hell yeah for Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen!? Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! is just simply awesome and completely amazing!23:54
Lisa_XavierThe crowd chants: LLLLiiiissssaaaa XXXXaaaavvvviiiieeeerrrr TTTThhhheeee CCCCrrrroooossssssss DDDDrrrreeeessssssssiiiinnnngggg QQQQuuuueeeeeeeennnn!!!!!! LLLLiiiissssaaaa XXXXaaaavvvviiiieeeerrrr TTTThhhheeee CCCCrrrroooossssssss DDDDrrrreeeessssssssiiiinnnngggg QQQQuuuueeeeeeeennnn!!!!!! LLLLiiiissssaaaa XXXXaaaavvvviiiieeeerrrr TTTThhhheeee CCCCrrrroooossssssss DDDDrrrreeeessssssssiiiinnnngggg QQQQuuuueeeeeeeennnn!!!!!!!23:54
Lisa_XavierLisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! IS DA BEST! All bow down to Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen!! Lisa Xavier The Cross Dressing Queen! rulez da land!23:54
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MoonlightningSorry, what?23:54
DarkBloodWolfThat you Drone`, she was also spamming me in PM23:54
bubbasauresMoonlightning, I can't be more clear honestly, do the research. ;)23:55
MoonlightningDarkBloodWolf: pretty sure Drone wasn't the one to X-Line them :P23:55
bubbasauresMoonlightning, If you let people hold your hand you will not learn, doing the work yourself stays in long term memory23:57
Moonlightningbubbasaures: Fair enough. I'm all for hands-off teaching.23:58
bubbasauresMoonlightning, I figured you were, this channel just has some whom do this and it is well no helping really. ;)23:59
bubbasauresnot*23:59
* Moonlightning nodnods.23:59

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