[00:52] <satdav> Hi will you be doing android lollipop soon on touch
[00:53] <bubbasaures> satdav, Touch is it's own development, based only at this time on a specific android release.
[00:54] <bubbasaures> lollipop is a whole android image touch is not
[00:54] <bubbasaures> not really bases, but using part of
[00:54] <satdav> Were can I make apps for touch
[00:55] <bubbasaures> based*
[00:58] <lilstevie> the android portion of ubuntu touch is only the libraries and such required to run the binary hardware drivers. The rest of the system is ubuntu based
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[14:29] <julienrbt> Sorry, I've lot of question, the bluetooth works with Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus 4 (or it's just my device?)?
[16:33] <ThomasLundsgaard> Have any of you guys tried to install Ubuntu-Touch on an Samsung Galaxy S4?
[16:37] <julienrbt> me not, but it is supported :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
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[17:01] <ThomasLundsgaard> Does any of you know, when if will be possible to buy a Phone with Ubuntu-Touch pre-installed?
[17:03] <ogra_> ThomasLundsgaard, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/12/bq-ubuntu-phone-launches-in-europe-this-february
[17:08] <ThomasLundsgaard> ogra_ Looking forward to that :D
[18:53] <SturmFlut> popey: Was there any update about shipping libSDL on the phone?
[18:53] <popey> not yet
[18:54] <popey> probably need to bundle in with your app
[18:56] <SturmFlut> popey: do you know if somebody is already doing it? So I can steal his CMake config
[18:56] <popey> I don't
[19:04] <SturmFlut> popey: I suspected that Ken VanDine is doing it in the "PathWind" game, but amazingly the whole thing is written in QML.
[19:05] <popey> SturmFlut: be good to get some notes together so others can also play with this
[19:08] <SturmFlut> popey: If I manage to find the time to build something, I will. All my code is public anyways
[19:08] <popey> that would be awesome, it's something I'd be interested in too
[20:16] <SturmFlut> I need some information about WiFi networks which is not available via QtNetwork, but seems to be offered by NetworkManager via D-Bus. Am I allowed to issue D-Bus requests to NetworkManager from my confined app?
[20:36] <popey> SturmFlut: one for the security team, or maybe try it and see?
[20:57] <SturmFlut> popey: Mkay, thought somebody already knew it. Looks like I'm pushing the boundaries with my recent apps
[20:57] <popey> yeah, and please do continue to do that! :D
[23:51] <jdstrand> SturmFlut: access to NM is not allowed. there is a bug open for that. I suggest you look at connectivity-api (though it won't give info about wifi networks yet)
[23:52] <jdstrand> (note, the bug is about QNetwork needing access to NM, not that we should allow apps access to NM (which we will not))