[07:12] <soee> good morning
[08:10] <tsdgeos> Riddell: at some point you opened a bug about https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity-greeter/plasma5_badge/+merge/246778
[08:10] <tsdgeos> i couldn't find it, you may want to close it
[09:02] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:02] <Riddell> hmm i wonder where
[10:33] <_Groo_> good morning all
[10:33] <_Groo_> anyone alive?
[10:33] <_Groo_> or barely
[10:34] <lordievader> o/
[10:36] <Riddell> hola
[10:36] <_Groo_> hi lordievader Riddell 
[10:37] <_Groo_> sooo, are you guys aware that some packages in ci are horribly broken, lib wise?
[10:37] <_Groo_> small example, try to run ksysguard
[10:37] <_Groo_> ksysguard: error while loading shared libraries: libprocessui.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:37] <_Groo_> so, you create a symbolic link to libprocessui.so.5
[10:37] <_Groo_> because the lib didnt changed symbols, its still 5.whatever
[10:38] <_Groo_> :/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libprocessui.so.5.2.90
[10:38] <_Groo_> ok now its ksysguard: error while loading shared libraries: libksignalplotter.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:38] <_Groo_> same stuff, repeat
[10:39] <_Groo_> oh nice, now is ksysguard: error while loading shared libraries: libksgrd.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:39] <_Groo_> oh now is ksysguard: error while loading shared libraries: libprocesscore.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:39] <_Groo_> so much fun
[10:40] <_Groo_> hurra, now it works
[10:40] <_Groo_> so the bad news...
[10:40] <_Groo_> all this packages are pointing to a symbolic link with a .6
[10:40] <_Groo_> unfortunatelly, the symbols didnt change, so it should be .5
[10:40] <lordievader> _Groo_: I'll reboot to plasma5 and check ;)
[10:40] <_Groo_> i dont know if this was on purpose or a slipup
[10:41] <_Groo_> some poor soul will have to check the install files for kde, one by one (i recommend a script), and change all the symbolic links back from .6 to .5
[10:43] <lordievader> Blegh, my Plasma5 install is broken/
[10:43] <yofel> that's not a packaging thing but an upstream one
[10:44] <yofel> although this smells like too much wildcarding in install files if this actually built
[10:44] <Sick_Rimmit> Hello
[10:44] <Sick_Rimmit> Be back later
[10:47]  * lordievader now to update the revived Plasma5 install :)
[10:51] <soee> :)
[10:52] <Riddell> hi Sick_Rimmit, how's the fosdem posters?
[10:55] <yofel> _Groo_: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122072/
[10:57] <_Groo_> yofel: ok, but with that bump, ksysguard is broken
[10:58] <_Groo_> yofel: a matter of recompilation, or we need to wait for upstream?
[10:58] <yofel> rebuild should be enough
[10:58] <yofel> and our libksysguard packging needs to be fixed so this doesn't happen again
[10:58] <_Groo_> yofel: make it so (always wanted to say that)
[10:58] <yofel> ^^
[10:59] <_Groo_> btw are you guys going to use my bluez+pulseaudio backport?
[10:59] <_Groo_> im using it locally, but without them, bluedevil is useless
[10:59] <sitter> nonono
[10:59] <sitter> ksysguard needs fixing
[10:59] <sitter> the package is pretty shite
[11:00] <sitter> the wildcards in install are not restrictive enough and it doesn't have symbols files
[11:00] <_Groo_> dont mention it, groo is here to give more work to you guys ^^
[11:01] <_Groo_> remember, a righteous penis is a flacid one... no wait.. wrong reference
[11:01] <yofel> sitter: agreed, just took a quick look at it -.-
[11:05] <yofel> I wonder what else has such permissive wildcarding :S
[11:10] <lordievader> _Groo_: You had problems with ksysguard? (My install should be up to date again)
[11:13] <lordievader> Ah, yes. I get the same :P
[11:15] <Riddell> yay kate transitioned!
[11:16] <sitter> Riddell: plusma-nm five point two has breakagery todo with nm 1.0 enablement, see #plasma
[11:16] <sitter> reckon you should know as release dude
[11:16] <_Groo_> lordievader: good to see you got it too
[11:16] <_Groo_> btw, another issue
[11:16] <_Groo_> this time with kio-mtp
[11:16] <_Groo_> kio-mtp is now part of kio-extras
[11:17] <_Groo_> so far so good, the packages installed correctly and removed the old kio-mtp package
[11:17] <_Groo_> the thing is, dolphin in ci is still kde 4.x based, so it lost the ability to mount mtp points :P
[11:17] <_Groo_> the new dolphin should be in kde-baseapps
[11:17] <_Groo_> is anyone working on porting those to ci?
[11:18] <sitter> dolphin has no release date
[11:18] <_Groo_> can kio-mtp 4 and 5 coexist then?
[11:18] <sitter> Riddell: ^ upstream problem ... one needs old kio-mtp and new one on the same machine, otherwise one can't use it...
[11:18] <Riddell> what does one need old kio-mtp for?
[11:18] <sitter> or actually, the binary artifacts should not conflict anyway
[11:18] <_Groo_> for dolphin
[11:18] <sitter> Riddell: dolphin is kdelibs4
[11:18] <Riddell> hmm, right
[11:18] <sitter> and generally everything that is kdelibs4 really
[11:19]  * sitter looks at packaging
[11:19] <_Groo_> when kio-extras was installed it removed the old kio-mtp package
[11:19] <_Groo_> but since is kde 4.x is shouldnt have since its capable or using both
[11:19] <sitter> data files conflict it says
[11:20] <sitter> Riddell: might this be at all related to the translation file name conflict tsdgeos highlighted?
[11:20] <_Groo_> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[11:20] <_Groo_>   kio-extras kio-extras-data plasma-desktop plasma-workspace
[11:20] <_Groo_> if you try to install kio-mtp 0.75 manually
[11:20] <sitter> yes
[11:20] <_Groo_> so yeah, we have the new one that dolphin doesnt use, and the old one cant be installed
[11:20] <_Groo_> the joys of transitions 
[11:23] <_Groo_> thats why i eat our own dog food, i stumble into stuff thats not immediately apparent, since the packaging is correct or almost, and the functionality is not upfront broken
[11:47] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Jesus, I just realised only a year left till I get my degree
[11:49] <Riddell> another year?
[11:49] <Riddell> haven't you been doing that since forever?
[11:49] <Riddell> Quintasan: does that mean you have a dissertation project to do?
[11:50] <Quintasan> hmm
[11:51] <Quintasan> Riddell: I'm going to have to write something called "praca inżynierska", it's lower than shadeslayer MSc
[11:51] <Quintasan> Then in 1,5 year I can do MSc degree
[11:52] <sitter> I don't think shadeslayer has a masters degree
[11:52] <Quintasan> Though I'm not sure if I'm going to bother.
[11:52] <sitter> I think ur thing ~= BSc
[11:53] <Riddell> Quintasan: fancy making it a Kubuntu or KDE project?
[11:53] <Riddell> then you'd actually have something people used to show for it at the end
[11:54] <Quintasan> Riddell, sitter: interwebs say it's engineering thesis that I'm going to write
[11:55] <Quintasan> Riddell: I wanted to something desktop but all of the promotors are like "lol no, do something on Android"
[11:55] <sitter> they are not wrong
[11:55] <Riddell> Quintasan: great, make a kubuntu phone edition
[11:55] <_Groo_> Quintasan: dont do it, the interwebs dont need another engineer, we need plumbers!!! mario wont last forever!
[11:56] <sitter> Quintasan: what Riddell said, I hear we soon get phone hardware to easily deploy kubuntu on :P
[11:56] <_Groo_> Riddell: btw what ever happened to plasma ... what was it called, the mobile version?
[11:56] <Riddell> horah, konsole/konsole4 migrated
[11:56] <Quintasan> _Groo_: Active.
[11:56] <_Groo_> Quintasan: oh yeah, plasma active
[11:56] <Riddell> plasma active the tablet edition hasn't been ported to plasma5
[11:57] <Quintasan> sitter, Riddell: I hopefully have more freedom when doing masters.
[11:57] <_Groo_> Riddell: it was interesting, pitty the crowdsource funding didnt work that well
[11:57] <Quintasan> will have*
[11:57] <sitter> better idea: don't do a masters degree and start working at codeclimate and get me a free account
[11:58] <Quintasan> The worst thing is that I'm the first year that has to write a thesis
[11:58] <Quintasan> Before me people had something called ZPI which was a team project and then you got your degree.
[11:58] <Quintasan> Now I have BOTH.
[12:00] <Riddell>   if(KDE4Workspace_FOUND)
[12:00] <Riddell>      add_subdirectory(kwin-decoration)
[12:00] <Quintasan> And to make things worse they decided to do a internal restructuring and now noone has any idea who is responsible for what.
[12:00] <Riddell> tsdgeos: that's why no kwin-decoration for oxygen, it needs kde4workspace which we don't have any more ↑
[12:01] <Riddell> Quintasan: make kubuntu mobile and port more kde apps to android
[12:01] <Riddell> useful and you'll learn stuff
[12:01] <Quintasan> Riddell: Well, I got roped in for Android now.
[12:01] <Quintasan> Someone got COBOL -> C# translator
[12:01] <Quintasan> and I'm not even kidding
[12:02] <Riddell> oh my goodnes
[12:03] <Riddell> programming language transators are evil, cobol is evil, c# is evil, does this person know no good?
[12:03] <Riddell> Quintasan: great, port umbrello to android
[12:03] <Riddell> you can even sell it and make money like gcompris
[12:04] <Quintasan> hm
[12:05] <Quintasan> >UML
[12:05] <Quintasan> argh
[12:06] <Riddell> worked for me, I got a 1st class degree and won some fancy award and people actually still use it
[12:06] <Riddell> academics love stuff like UML
[12:20] <Quintasan> yofel: I dropped most of my Quassel in case you were wondering what the hell is going on with the database.
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:27] <Riddell> _Groo_: where is your PPA again?
[12:31] <soee> Quintasan: you can write it in a week :D
[12:33] <Quintasan> soee: What, my thesis?
[12:35] <lordievader> soee: Not if you want it to be more than bullshit bingo...
[12:36] <tsdgeos> Riddell: you're reading that wrong
[12:37] <tsdgeos>   if(KDecorations_FOUND)
[12:37] <tsdgeos>     add_subdirectory(kwin-decoration)
[12:47] <sitter> Riddell: qtquick1 backport is missing
[12:47] <sitter> you never fixed it and then deleted it apparently :P
[12:52] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: :D
[12:55] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: sitter's right, I only have a Bachelors
[12:59] <sitter> see, forget about masters and apply for job at codeclimate :P
[13:06] <Quintasan> What on Earth is codeclimate
[13:09] <sitter> lib/utils/CMakeFiles/qtcurve-utils.dir/build.make:373: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?).  Stop.
[13:09] <sitter> what the
[13:10] <sitter> Quintasan: quality metrics service
[13:15] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: unless you intend to do reasearchy stuff, a masters is a bit silly ( IMHO )
[13:16] <_Groo_> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/peppa
[13:16] <_Groo_> Riddell: think of the pig
[13:17] <shadeslayer> peppa pig xD
[13:18] <yofel> pepper pig :P
[13:18] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: yep, although my ppa is much older, someone is owing me royalties!
[13:19] <shadeslayer> haha
[13:20] <shadeslayer> can you actually sue over something that could be someone's name though?
[13:20] <shadeslayer> I don't think so
[13:20] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: tell that to apple
[13:20] <shadeslayer> for eg. I most certainly don't hold the trademark over my name
[13:20] <_Groo_> nowadays i think you can sue everyone for everything in the usa
[13:21] <_Groo_> it depends on the judge
[13:21] <_Groo_> someone once said, good lawyers know the law, great lawyers know the judges
[13:22] <shadeslayer> gosh
[13:23] <shadeslayer> people dont look at synaptic anymore I guess
[13:25] <BluesKaj> I used synaptic for yrs until muon became stable and mature enough to be reliable
[13:37] <Riddell> tsdgeos: where? I look at line 49 https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/workspace/oxygen/repository/revisions/master/entry/CMakeLists.txt
[13:43] <Riddell> _Groo_: added back kio-mtp to the archive and the seed
[13:46] <tsdgeos> i can't believe that kwin people killed oxygen deco for 5.2
[13:46] <tsdgeos> it's silly
[13:46]  * tsdgeos goes back to work
[13:46] <sitter> Riddell: kio-extras-data replaces kio-mtp though
[13:46]  * shadeslayer proceeds to fix kate
[13:46] <Riddell> sitter: I updated that too
[13:47] <sitter> ah, perfect then
[13:47]  * sitter wonders why the frameworks deps in vivid-stable are still botched
[13:52] <mgraesslin> tsdgeos: should we have not shipped all the decoration improvements just because Oxygen doesn't have a port yet?
[13:54] <mparillo> There will be an alpha 2, right? Just in case, I created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Alpha2/Kubuntu
[13:55] <BluesKaj> it would be nice to have more themes and backgrounds for VDs that aren't global
[13:55] <mparillo> I would also be willing to take a try at updating: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades/Kubuntu Where would most people start? From 14.04.1 or from 14.10
[13:56] <tsdgeos> mgraesslin: i didn't see any improvement, just regressions, so in my opinion yes, now i'm working we can discuss this stuff later if you want
[13:57] <Riddell> mparillo: ooh great thanks
[13:57] <mgraesslin> tsdgeos: improvements: 4 MB less memory per window, better performance and no crashes. I was able to fix about 50 bug reports
[13:57] <Riddell> mparillo: the upgrades needs a VividUpgrades page for 14.10 -> 15.04 upgrades
[13:57] <Riddell> mparillo: which currently means running alt-space kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade
[13:58] <mparillo> Riddell: I will give it a try. First step (which will take some time) is to get a really clean 14.10 environment, so my steps look stock. 
[13:59] <mparillo> So I will do a fresh 14.10 install.
[13:59] <soee> mgraesslin: the new window decoration works nice for me in 5.1.95 i do not miss oxygen at all :)
[14:12] <Riddell> mparillo: great many thanks :)
[14:12] <Riddell> mparillo: alpha 2 is probably looking for a release manager to guide it through incase you're looking for ways to help out :)
[14:24] <BluesKaj> is plasma 5.2 in proposed ?
[14:25] <soee> beta ?
[14:25] <soee> its in archive
[14:26] <BluesKaj> which archive
[14:26] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:26] <soee> BluesKaj: normal vivid updates
[14:27] <BluesKaj> soee, since ?
[14:28] <Riddell> it's been dripping in for the last week, final bits now in
[14:28] <Riddell> except muon and bluedevil
[14:28] <Riddell> which need other bits updated first
[14:29] <BluesKaj> ok , thanks soee, Riddell
[14:30]  * BluesKaj breaks out the laptop
[14:30] <Riddell> it's been dripping in for the last week, final bits now in the screenshot for kde applications :)
[14:31] <shadeslayer> anyone on KDE4 Utopic?
[14:31] <soee> BluesKaj: upgrading ?
[14:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: old school
[14:32] <BluesKaj> already running 15.04 on the laptop...hoping for some improvements to some of mt annoyances with plasma 5
[14:33] <BluesKaj> soee,^
[14:33] <soee> BluesKaj: after upgrade could you check few bugs and say if you can confirm them https://cloud.soee.pl/public.php?service=files&t=9acc478c95d8bc861de4294172c53bc5 ?
[14:34] <soee> most broken thing seems to be activities
[14:36] <BluesKaj_> well at least slide works with the VD pager
[14:41] <BluesKaj_> soee, could you post that ownloud site again, I couldn't read it on my tv/monitor, I might have better luck with this laptop
[14:43] <Riddell> sweet, utopic backports work
[14:43] <Riddell> !testers | utopic plasma 5 backports in kubuntu-ppa/next-staging
[14:43] <Riddell> anyone able to test that? ↑
[14:43] <soee> BluesKaj_: https://cloud.soee.pl/public.php?service=files&t=9acc478c95d8bc861de4294172c53bc5
[14:44] <soee> you have to download txt file
[14:45] <soee> well i'm on utopic here at work with Plasma 5.1 :) i could test but can't risk my PC won't boot
[14:50] <soee> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9785620/
[14:51] <Neo31> i will confirm if i can do some testing tonight Riddell 
[14:51]  * Neo31 at work
[14:53] <Riddell> Neo31: great
[14:53] <soee> ok i pressed T, upgrade in progress
[14:54] <Riddell> soee: that you testing plasma5 backports on utopic?
[14:54] <soee> Riddell: yes
[14:54] <Riddell> soee: looks fine
[14:54] <Riddell> I wonder if I should fix the calligra install though
[14:55] <Riddell> that'll be a faff
[14:56] <_Groo_> Riddell: can i mix ci with staging, or will it brake my entire system?
[14:57] <Riddell> _Groo_: I've no idea I'm afraid
[14:57] <_Groo_> staging for all i can see are the 14.12 applications , correct?
[14:57] <Riddell> which staging? for which distro?
[14:57] <Riddell> which staging? for which release?
[14:59] <_Groo_> kubuntu-ci (utopic) + kubuntu-ppa/staging-next (utopic)
[14:59] <_Groo_> the cutting edge of the cutting edge, bleeding all over
[15:00] <Riddell> it would probably work
[15:00] <_Groo_> probably is a very scientific answer indeed
[15:00] <_Groo_> gonna try, what could go wrong, right?
[15:00] <Riddell> sitter: you say I need to up the version number on the qt packages in kubuntu-ppa/next-staging?
[15:01] <sitter> yeah, just upload with ~ppa10
[15:01] <sitter> and qtquick1 is missing
[15:03] <BluesKaj_> and krunner doesn't list previous entries, that another peeve
[15:03] <BluesKaj_> that's
[15:03] <Neo31> Riddell, can i transmit your message to our mailing list ? and what's the deadline for that ?
[15:04] <Neo31> (LoCo Team mailing list)
[15:04] <Riddell> Neo31: sure
[15:04] <Riddell> deadline is whenever I get eough testing to feel comfortable to move it to kubuntu-ppa/next-backports
[15:05] <Neo31> good
[15:07] <_Groo_> Riddell: are you sure the kio-mtp is working now? did it compile already?
[15:07] <_Groo_> its still asking to remove half the system :D
[15:15] <Neo31> Riddell, some instructions please? we are not testing with iso tracker here right?
[15:18] <BluesKaj_> what about plasma 5.2 or 15.04 ppa ..does one exist?
[15:18] <BluesKaj_> or=for
[15:20] <yofel> 5.1.95 is in vivid archive
[15:21] <BluesKaj_> yofels]
[15:21] <BluesKaj_> so I must be up to date 
[15:22] <Riddell> Neo31: correct no tracker
[15:22] <Riddell> Neo31: install kubuntu-plasma5 utopic 14.10
[15:22] <BluesKaj_> no ppas in my sources
[15:22] <Riddell> apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-staging
[15:22] <Riddell> apt update; apt full-upgrade
[15:22] <Riddell> see what happens
[15:25] <_Groo_> Riddell: dear mr Riddell , kio-mtp is still unable to be installed when using ci, sincerely yours, a concerned user
[15:28] <Neo31> cool, I will install a fresh 14.10 on a Virtual Machine, add plasma5 repo and do a full upgrade :) if there are some error I will ping you
[15:29] <BluesKaj_> heh, http://pastebin.com/nki0J1Xq
[15:30] <Riddell> Neo31: super
[15:30] <Riddell> _Groo_: on utopic?
[15:30] <_Groo_> Riddell: yep
[15:30] <_Groo_> just updated from ci
[15:30] <Riddell> I've not done that backport, spose I should do that
[15:31] <_Groo_> might be a good idea... :P
[15:31] <Riddell> or feel free to do it for me :)
[15:31] <_Groo_> i dont have access
[15:31] <_Groo_> to anything
[15:31] <_Groo_> im just an annoying voice
[15:31] <Riddell> you have your ppa and we can copy
[15:31] <_Groo_> ¬¬
[15:31] <Riddell> and you can show us your elite packaging powers then ask for access
[15:32] <_Groo_> Riddell: i love you too... translation: you can do work and then ask access to do more work :D
[15:32] <_Groo_> Riddell: im gonna lunch, ill download the sources and tweak them (or bang them) to submission and upload to my peppa pig repo
[15:32] <Riddell> it's how open source works :)
[15:32] <_Groo_> Riddell: ill ping you in 2 hours or so
[15:33] <_Groo_> Riddell: yep, and i love it, i can give some pain and tears back to the community when stuff breaks :)
[15:34] <BluesKaj_> ok here goes a reboot ..
[15:41] <BluesKaj_> managed to reboot ok after that upgrade
[15:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: thou forgot the epochs
[15:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: in kate http://paste.ubuntu.com/9786144/
[15:57] <shadeslayer> fix pushed to kubuntu_unstable
[16:22] <mparillo> Riddell: I got the upgrade page started, and a clean, fresh 14.10 installation with upgrades. Next step is kdesudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE   ?
[16:36] <Riddell> mparillo: 
[16:36] <Riddell> nope
[16:36] <Riddell> mparillo: kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade
[16:37] <Riddell> hmm ubiquity is kindae broken in kde frontend
[16:37] <Riddell> sitter: can you explain what your patch is for? what does it change about QIcon?
[16:38] <sitter> which patch?
[16:39] <sitter> Riddell: it says so in the comment
[16:39] <sitter> http://goo.gl/6LkM7X
[16:40] <sitter> if the version is for it loads icons from oxygen, otherwise it will load from crystalsvg (which doesn't exist) so it loads from hicolor where an icon potentially is not available because we design and test against oxygen
[16:40] <sitter> s/is for/is four
[16:40] <sitter> so in essence that is forcing QIcon::loadTheme to load from oxygen
[16:41] <sitter> (there's nicer ways to influence that in qt5, not sure about qt4, the env var certainly is the most uninvasive approach to it though)
[16:46] <mparillo> Riddell: TY. Do I need sudo (text) or kdesudo (graphically)? Normally I would just try it without and see if I get an error message, but I am trying to get clean screenshots when mine differ from the ones you put in the previous upgrade page.
[16:47] <sitter> mparillo: the tool is supposed to automatically use kdesudo, so just run it and you should get a password prompt
[16:58] <Riddell> mparillo: nothing
[16:58] <Riddell> (look at the script, it's a 1 liner"
[17:03] <Riddell> does kdeplasma-addons need a meta package?
[17:03] <Riddell> it has lots of split up packages for some reason
[17:04] <Riddell> all of which we now seed
[17:06] <mparillo> Riddell: It does, thank you. Getting screen shots as my disk spins like mad.
[17:06] <Riddell> mparillo: you're upgrading from kde4?
[17:09] <Riddell> sitter: 
[17:09] <Riddell> sitter: merged!
[17:09] <Riddell> but there's still a crash where it can't find the spinner icon or something
[17:09] <Riddell> and another crash in ubi-console-setup in the keyboard stage
[17:17] <Riddell> mparillo: volunteers needed :) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2015-January/003182.html
[17:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I backported kate4 into next-staging to fix that overlapping file issue
[17:21] <shadeslayer> huh?
[17:21] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you had a problem with kate-data files overlapping, was that in utopic or vivid?
[17:21] <shadeslayer> sid
[17:22] <shadeslayer> your Breaks/Replaces was wrong
[17:22] <shadeslayer> missing epoch
[17:22] <shadeslayer> s/your/the/
[17:22] <kubotu> shadeslayer: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[17:22] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ah yes fixing
[17:22] <shadeslayer> Riddell: already fixed
[17:24] <Riddell> well uplo
[17:24] <Riddell> well uploading to the archive
[17:35] <sitter> Riddell: the spinner is fixed by that
[17:36] <_Groo_> Riddell: cant take care of kio-mtp today, got a big issue at work that needs my attention :(
[17:36] <Riddell> sitter: oh cool
[17:36] <_Groo_> was hoping to do that now
[17:36] <Riddell> _Groo_: fair enough
[17:36] <_Groo_> blame my boss
[17:36] <_Groo_> he waits till the last minute to drop the bomb
[17:48] <mparillo> Riddell: Release manager sounds like a responsiblity. I am worried I cannot keep up. But I do have a question, as I replace your upgrade version with mine step-by-step. I got an error message: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu#CAN_WE_IGNORE_THIS_ERROR_MESSAGE
[17:49] <Riddell> mparillo: hmm, it's fine to ignore the message, but doesn't it quite the upgrader when you close it?
[17:51] <mparillo> It does. I will re-boot and re-run the upgrader and see if something different happens
[17:53] <Riddell> mparillo: then I guess we need a specific instruction to disable that archive for now
[17:55] <Riddell> mparillo: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2015-January/038631.html
[17:55] <Riddell> stgraber to fix, I guess he's not done it yet
[17:55] <Riddell> worth a bug
[18:09] <mparillo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1412531
[18:28] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we need to figure something out with kate
[18:28] <shadeslayer> I can't install kate on Debian sid along with katepart
[18:44] <lordievader> Riddell: For FOSDEM, is it better to make a live-usb with 14.10 + Plasma5, or 15.04 + Plasma5?
[19:14] <soee> Riddell: i have installed 5.2beta on Utopic but can report tommorow how it works because i had to leave office and left PC during configuration
[19:15] <soee> ergh, yakuake with white background ... what happend
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I've set up a temporary page for the Romanian site, untill the multilingual one is finished.
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> it redirects to kubuntu.org in 10 seconds
[20:03] <Riddell> lordievader: whatever works best
[20:03] <Riddell> thanks ovidiu-florin 
[20:11] <lordievader> Hmm, I made one of 14.10. It reminded me sddm had problems. Luckily I know a bypass.
[20:53] <kfunk> uh oh, someone just upgraded konsole to the Qt5-based on in vivid?
[20:53] <kfunk> that broke yakuake for me (still KDE4-based)
[20:54] <soee> kfunk: something like [20:15] <soee> ergh, yakuake with white background ... what happend ?
[20:54] <soee> also navigation keys dont work for me
[20:54] <kfunk> nothing works
[20:54] <kfunk> the keyboard input is quite weird now (does ctrl-w on backspace, and things like that)
[20:54] <kfunk> just looked through whole systemsettings if I broke sth :|
[20:55] <soee> it happend after latest updates i think
[20:55] <yofel> hm, yakuake *should* be using konsole4-kpart
[20:55] <kfunk> yeah
[20:56] <kfunk> but nice to see that you're transitioning to Qt5/KF5-based apps
[20:57] <kfunk> [pid 14342] open("/usr/lib/kde4/libkonsolepart.so", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 10
[20:57] <kfunk> hm, seems to use that one indeed
[21:01] <kfunk> yakuake(14688) KXMLGUIClient::setXMLFile: cannot find .rc file "konsole/partui.rc" for component "yakuake" 
[21:04] <yofel> hm, that's indeed missing the kde4 version
[21:11] <kfunk> that fixes the context menu for me, but the keyboard input is still broken
[21:12] <kfunk> yofel: who to talk to wrt this?
[21:12]  * kfunk needs his yakuake
[21:12] <yofel> hm, no idea, the others might know
[21:13] <yofel> did you try adding /usr/share/kde4/apps/konsole/partui.rc from the old konsole package?
[21:16] <kfunk> yes. see above. that fixes the context menu for me
[21:18] <yofel> ok, I can fix that part
[21:24] <yofel> hm...
[21:25] <yofel> I wonder if yakuake needs the kde4 colorschemes
[21:26]  * yofel also adds sessionui.rc
[21:31] <yofel> Riddell: please sponsor konsole4 from bzr please
[21:31] <yofel> our packageset looks rather out of date -.-
[21:43]  * kfunk built yakuake-kf5 on his own
[21:43] <kfunk> yofel: maybe worth just using KF5-based yakuake, too?
[21:43] <kfunk> seems to work just fine
[21:44] <kfunk> oh, it creates a task list entry when being opened, that's an issue
[21:44] <yofel> that would be an option too, Riddell ^
[21:44] <kfunk> but still, better than the current situation
[22:46] <valorie> Riddell: I'm on 14.10 w/plasma 5, what is needed to do a test of backports exactly?
[22:49] <valorie> is it this? 
[22:49] <valorie> install kubuntu-plasma5 utopic 14.10
[22:49] <valorie> apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-staging
[22:49] <valorie> apt update; apt full-upgrade