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| Riddell | anyone able to say why kate/kate4 konsole/konsole4 transition isn't going into release? the packages are moving to kf5 but I've made packages for the old kde4 versions that retain the plugins that various bits use | 10:45 |
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| Laney | Riddell: Seems like an easy hint would work | 10:55 |
| Laney | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9784066/ | 10:55 |
| Riddell | Laney: oh? what does that mean? | 11:01 |
| Laney | It means please consider these packages together | 11:01 |
| Riddell | Laney: so I just add "easy kate/4:14.12.0-0ubuntu2 kate4/4:4.14.3-0ubuntu4" to my hints file? | 11:04 |
| * Riddell makes it so | 11:05 | |
| Laney | For example konsole4 Breaks old konsole, so you need to upgrade konsole at the same time or anything that depends on it will become uninstallable | 11:06 |
| Laney | so you need to tell britney to update them both in the same transaction | 11:06 |
| Laney | Riddell: and one for konsole too, yes | 11:06 |
| tseliot | Riddell: hi, can you reject my nvidia-graphics-drivers-346 and nvidia-graphics-drivers-346-updates (in vivid NEW) please? I'd like to upload a new upstream release and to add some fixes | 11:27 |
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| Riddell | ok | 11:34 |
| Riddell | tseliot: ↑ | 11:35 |
| tseliot | Riddell: thanks a lot | 11:35 |
| mlankhorst | could llvm-toolchain-3.5 in trusty NEW get accepted? | 12:31 |
| xnox | stuck in debian's new queue for experimental, hence direct upload to ubuntu instead of via debian | 15:45 |
| apw | now that the casper changes have hit vivid-release it might be a good idea to respin one of the liveCDs (say amd64) so we can confirm it fixes the booting issues there | 16:40 |
| apw | sooner rather than later, given alpha2 freezy is so imminent | 16:41 |
| Laney | apw: doing | 16:44 |
| apw | Laney, thanks indeed | 16:44 |
| Laney | although it might not be so imminent | 16:45 |
| * Laney sends a nastygram to the ML :) | 16:45 | |
| apw | Laney, :) | 16:47 |
| apw | Laney, will that rebuild appear here in queuebot verbiage, or ... | 17:12 |
| Laney | apw: it's at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/pending/ already so probably not :P | 17:13 |
| apw | Laney, ahhh thanks | 17:13 |
| elfy | Laney: elfy sent a 'what's that anyway' askygram :) | 17:14 |
| elfy | then washed his hands of it as well :) | 17:14 |
| elfy | Laney: ta :) | 17:33 |
| Laney | haha | 17:33 |
| Laney | I enjoy this split conversation | 17:33 |
| elfy | :D | 17:33 |
| elfy | I'll try and look at that wiki - I'd guess if nothing else - splitting it into 2 bits (those with access and Ubuntu release) and stuff that the 'rest' can help with would be useful | 17:34 |
| Laney | most of it is just not done any more since the milestones were de-officialised | 17:36 |
| elfy | lol | 17:37 |
| elfy | then I'll look at something for flavour's to use then - anyway I'll have a play somewhere | 17:41 |
| apw | Laney, that ISO seems to boot just fine ... so i will call the casper changes a success | 17:58 |
| Laney | good work son | 17:59 |
| wxl | folks, what's up with alpha2? when will we have images? | 18:00 |
| apw | wxl, normally (and nominally) the freezes for the early milestones are the tuesday of the week of that milestone, and the release the thursday of the same week | 18:03 |
| wxl | apw: they used to be monday. oh well. | 18:03 |
| apw | so i'd expect to see migration blocks drop in tomorrow | 18:03 |
| * apw cannot reacall a monday one, so it must have been a while | 18:04 | |
| elfy | 2 or 3 cycles ago it was | 18:04 |
| wxl | which in ubuntu terms is like a million years ago ;) | 18:04 |
| Laney | there was a monday time, but it's been tuesday for a few milestones now | 18:04 |
| wxl | i'm going to update our wiki to reflect this | 18:05 |
| wxl | wait a minute | 18:05 |
| wxl | apw: when you say "early milestones" do you mean anything except the release image or do you mean only alphas? | 18:05 |
| apw | wxl, my memory is the betas having a week, freezing on a thursday and releasing the next one | 18:05 |
| wxl | apw: is there anywhere i can find a definitive answer? | 18:06 |
| apw | the release team by definition (i suspect) | 18:06 |
| wxl | heheheh | 18:06 |
| wxl | i'll send an email | 18:06 |
| Laney | last cycle they were all the tuesday before, except release | 18:07 |
| elfy | yep - possibly the previous too | 18:07 |
| wxl | sent, thanks apw Laney elfy | 18:10 |
| elfy | I'd not thank me - I'm so forgetful I'd forget to | 18:12 |
| wxl | hehehe | 18:12 |
| wxl | yeah well i'm also trying to consider that as well | 18:12 |
| wxl | so maybe i should say you're welcome, elfy ? :) | 18:12 |
| elfy | :) | 18:12 |
| elfy | wxl: did you see the recent mails to the -release list ? | 18:12 |
| wxl | elfy: i saw the ones about participating in alpha2 | 18:13 |
| elfy | I think generally *they* want the likes of you and I to step up and help out with some of this | 18:13 |
| wxl | well i'm happy to help but i can't decide schedules | 18:13 |
| wxl | if i can get the info, i'll help disseminate it | 18:13 |
| elfy | this thing https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2014-December/003166.html | 18:14 |
| wxl | oh yeah | 18:15 |
| wxl | not so recent :) | 18:15 |
| elfy | heh - I meant the within the last hour or so recent from Laney and me :) | 18:16 |
| wxl | hahahah | 18:16 |
| wxl | they say they need alpha2, beta1 help and yet there's not even a column yet :) | 18:16 |
| wxl | there's a certain irony to it | 18:16 |
| elfy | wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseTaskSignup - 2 empty spots - for a2 and b1 :) | 18:37 |
| * wxl removes his blinders | 18:48 | |
| wxl | oh now i see it! | 18:48 |
| wxl | in any case i'm kind of stretched thing on that | 18:48 |
| wxl | i think i'll forward the message to the team and see if someone wants to pick up on it | 18:48 |
| wxl | our release team is rather small | 18:48 |
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