| SturmFlut | jdstrand: So it is currently not possible to build a WiFi Analyzer app, right? At least I don't see any way to continously query for SSIDs which are in range, their capabilities/properties and signal strength | 00:06 |
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| nimmersatt | hello mates. has anyone heard of the 'asus tranformer Book chi t300'? I might want that. Do you think it would work fine with Ubuntu, since it has a detachable touch display. | 01:39 |
| nimmersatt | Furthermore, I probably w ont be able to get it without Windows, will it be a problem selling the license? | 01:40 |
| nimmersatt | thanks in advance! | 01:40 |
| nimmersatt | and as I asked some days ago, how would unity 8 (if ready) handle a hybrid? | 01:42 |
| nimmersatt | ..anyone? :) | 01:46 |
| nhaines | nimmersatt: none of these are really questions for the channel to be honest. | 02:19 |
| nhaines | If the ASUS Transformer Book chi t300 is Intel-based, you should be able to install Ubuntu to it. | 02:20 |
| nhaines | Ubuntu is not very optimized for touch. Unity 8 will work as well as it does on a desktop (read: not well) *if* Mir will run. | 02:21 |
| nhaines | Microsoft does not allow you to sell an OEM license. It is restricted to the hardware it comes with. | 02:21 |
| RAOF | nimmersatt, nhaines: Note that if it's 32bit only, and uses EFI, then it's a bit of a pain to get Ubuntu booting on it (I *think* we've got packages in the archive that will support it, but we don't make EFI32 images) | 02:48 |
| nimmersatt | thanks a lot for your replies, nhaines and RAOF | 02:51 |
| nimmersatt | that sucks with Windows. | 02:52 |
| RAOF | Ubuntu touch boots works just fine on Intel hardware (with the mesa platform); IIRC there have been some recent G+ posts where someone's got U8 running on their Intel thingy. | 02:52 |
| nimmersatt | will be a Intel m chip they say | 02:52 |
| nimmersatt | How do you think about the chi t300 think? I was dreaming of a hybrid laptop, and this looked appealing. | 02:55 |
| nhaines | I don't know anything about it. | 02:56 |
| nhaines | I won't be in the market for such things until later this year. :) | 02:56 |
| nimmersatt | ok :) | 02:57 |
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| sturmflut-work | jdstrand: Could you have a look at https://sturmflut.github.io/linux/ubuntu/2015/01/17/unprivileged-icmp-sockets-on-linux/ ? I already talked to popey and ogra_ about it and I think it should be resolved just because the phone currently has different defaults than the desktop | 07:40 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:52 |
| sturmflut-work | dholbach: Good morning! | 07:57 |
| dholbach | hi sturmflut-work | 08:03 |
| ame | how to install ubuntu on MOTO E | 08:25 |
| ame | how to install ubuntu on MOTO E?? | 08:28 |
| popey | !devices | ame | 08:32 |
| ubot5 | ame: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 08:32 |
| ame | MOTO E | 08:35 |
| ame | popey :MOTO E | 08:35 |
| popey | ame: repeatedly telling me the name of your device isn't super useful. | 08:35 |
| ame | okay | 08:36 |
| popey | ame: the page I linked to lists devices which may or may not be supported. | 08:36 |
| ame | okay | 08:36 |
| ame | popey:my model number is not in that list | 08:37 |
| popey | So there is no port, and thus someone needs to port it. | 08:37 |
| ame | okay | 08:38 |
| ame | popey:Is that the same operating system should be use for mobile also or different?? | 08:39 |
| popey | sorry, i don't understand your question. | 08:40 |
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| anpok_ | ame: you are curious about the differences between 'ubuntu' and 'ubuntu touch'? | 08:53 |
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| ame | anpok:yes | 09:01 |
| ame | may i know who will develop or give the ports for phone?? | 09:09 |
| tsdgeos | guys my vivid phone keeps rebooting by itself | 09:55 |
| tsdgeos | while doing nothing | 09:55 |
| tsdgeos | any clue? | 09:55 |
| tsdgeos | dmesg has lots of http://paste.ubuntu.com/9783734/ | 09:56 |
| tsdgeos | and then http://paste.ubuntu.com/9783743/ and reboot | 09:56 |
| sturmflut-work | tsdgeos: Which release from which channel are you using on what device? | 10:01 |
| tsdgeos | sturmflut-work: ubuntu-device-flash ubuntu-system --channel devel-proposed | 10:02 |
| tsdgeos | nexus4 | 10:02 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Tin Can Day! :-D | 10:07 |
| sturmflut-work | tsdgeos: Probably a recently introduced bug, it is the development channel... My Nexus 4 is on the stable channel and works fine. | 10:08 |
| tsdgeos | yes obviously | 10:08 |
| tsdgeos | was working friday | 10:08 |
| matv1 | camera-app crashes on mako rtm proposed #170. known issue? | 10:08 |
| matv1 | ah never mind! https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1412013 | 10:09 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1412013 in android (Ubuntu) "[mako] Camera app doesn't launch on #169" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:09 |
| sturmflut-work | matv1: Jep, it is known | 10:09 |
| matv1 | yep i saw as i was typing sorry :) | 10:09 |
| sturmflut-work | The manpage for ubuntu-device-flash seems quite outdated to me? It still mentions stuff like "ubuntu-device-flash --list-channels" in the EXAMPLE section | 10:12 |
| ogra_ | sturmflut-work, yeah, better use --help | 10:13 |
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| dholbach | is cordova-ubuntu-2.8 now dropped from touch as well? | 10:40 |
| dholbach | (bug 1409656) | 10:41 |
| ubot5 | bug 1409656 in Ubuntu HTML5 UI SDK "ubuntu-html5-container still pulls cordova-2.8 on vivid" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1409656 | 10:41 |
| popey | dholbach: i see no cordova* packages on my non-vivid phone | 10:42 |
| popey | ubuntu-html5-container is there though.. | 10:42 |
| dholbach | brilliant | 10:42 |
| popey | qtdeclarative5-cordova-2.8-plugin also | 10:42 |
| dholbach | oh, so qtdeclarative5-cordova-2.8-plugin is still there? | 10:43 |
| popey | its on my phone, yes | 10:44 |
| popey | Installed: 2.8.0+14.04.20140130.3-0ubuntu6 | 10:45 |
| dholbach | I added a task for RTM: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-html5-theme/+bug/1409656 | 10:45 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1409656 in Ubuntu HTML5 UI SDK "ubuntu-html5-container still pulls cordova-2.8 on vivid" [High,In progress] | 10:46 |
| dholbach | dbarth, ^ | 10:46 |
| dbarth | ah finally, cool | 10:47 |
| dholbach | dbarth, it's fixed in vivid and on the vivid images, but not on the rtm image apparently | 10:48 |
| dbarth | dholbach: for rtm i will need to comment on the apps in store | 10:48 |
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| dbarth | ie, the fact that we won't break apps relying on that package | 10:48 |
| dholbach | dbarth, hum... well, these apps already won't work for phones using vivid :) | 10:49 |
| dbarth | correct | 10:49 |
| dholbach | Saviq, ogra_: it looks like we could drop cordova-2.8 from the rtm image - dbarth said that it's not used and it would just free up some space - is this of any interest? (bug 1409656) | 10:54 |
| ubot5 | bug 1409656 in Ubuntu HTML5 UI SDK "ubuntu-html5-container still pulls cordova-2.8 on vivid" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1409656 | 10:54 |
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| ogra_ | dholbach, dunno, is it seeded specifically beyond that dep ? | 11:28 |
| dholbach | ogra_, not that I know of | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | if it just means to include the same dependency change in rtm, let pmcgowan or olli know about that bug so they can add it to the rtm list | 11:29 |
| dholbach | ok... I'll drop them an email | 11:34 |
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| Chipaca | mmcqd/0 is using >90% of the cpu on the emulator, making it essentially unusable. Any fix? | 12:12 |
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| bakha | Hi guys | 13:15 |
| bakha | Is there some one? | 13:16 |
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| Tyler_ | Hey all! Noob but, I am trying to install Touch on my note 2 and I keep getting an error about a missing 'git'.. | 14:36 |
| Tyler_ | Nevermind, we're good | 14:38 |
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| mardy_ | mvo: hi! Do you have an ETA for bug 1358294? | 16:02 |
| ubot5 | bug 1358294 in click (Ubuntu) "App .config not removed when app uninstalled" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1358294 | 16:02 |
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| mpt | What is the modern-day equivalent of “ubuntu-device-flash --list-channels”? | 16:21 |
| mpt | I’m trying to find the vivid channel | 16:21 |
| mardy | mpt: I think vivid is ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel-proposed | 16:35 |
| mvo | mardy: if its important we can land it any day, sorry, it dropped off my radar (snappy work) | 16:35 |
| mvo | mardy: I need to read the bugreport - I take it there is consensus on this now? what it should delete? | 16:36 |
| mardy | mvo: I think it is, but we can workaround and have a hook to do the cleaning | 16:36 |
| jgdx | mpt, ubuntu-device-flash query --list-channels | 16:36 |
| mardy | mvo: as far as I can see, JohnLea_'s comment is quite clear | 16:36 |
| mpt | Thanks jgdx + mardy :-) | 16:36 |
| mardy | alexabreu: please see the lines for the last 30 mins or so ^ | 16:37 |
| mardy | alexabreu: I think that we can remove those two flags, and always remove the data | 16:38 |
| alexabreu | mardy, looking | 16:38 |
| alexabreu | mardy, yeah that's the one that IU had in mind when we talked about it this morning, it wasn't clear when it was supposed to land | 16:40 |
| alexabreu | though | 16:40 |
| mvo | mardy: ok, cool, I can work on this tomorrow then (almost EOD here) | 16:40 |
| mardy | mvo: cool | 16:40 |
| alexabreu | mardy, I still find it weird though, ... | 16:41 |
| mardy | alexabreu: what? | 16:41 |
| alexabreu | mardy, given our "each app has ownership of its produced data", ... | 16:41 |
| alexabreu | mardy, the model for deletion for e.g. photos etc. ... | 16:41 |
| alexabreu | mardy, I dont find it that intuitive if we go that way, and we dont have a finer grained alternative ifthe user wants to e.g. back up its photos | 16:42 |
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| mardy | alexabreu: before deleting an app, the user should export its contents to another app, if he wants to preserve it | 16:46 |
| alexabreu | mardy, yeah but the process is not intuitive atm, and still app dependent afaik | 16:47 |
| mardy | alexabreu: true, but OTOH if we don't do this now, the user will be left with quite a few stale files whenever an app is removed | 16:48 |
| mardy | alexabreu: to be honest, I don't see that many content-generating apps right now, so I don't think that removing all app's data is a problem | 16:49 |
| alexabreu | mardy, not at this point, but it will | 16:54 |
| mpt | Hmmm | 17:25 |
| mpt | “Switch to passphrase” lets you enter no passphrase at all, and then complains “No password supplied” | 17:26 |
| dubstar_04 | i'm trying to change channels by reflashing but there is nothing listed in abd devices? | 18:19 |
| rickspencer3 | dubstar_04, have you set your phone to developer mode? if not, there will be no adb connection | 18:28 |
| dubstar_04 | i turned on developer mode in ubuntu. should i be in fastboot or booted in to ubuntu? | 18:32 |
| dubstar_04 | i booted in to ubuntu and its working now. | 18:34 |
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| dubstar-04 | my install has hung at done pushing, with no furthur output. is this normal? | 19:35 |
| Bc1151 | hi! | 19:43 |
| Bc1151 | I was wondering if I can safely install the ubuntu touch build for xperia z on a xperia Z2? | 19:43 |
| Bc1151 | is that possible? | 19:43 |
| adrian47 | Hello, I am porting UT, what _boot_mode should I use? android or ubuntu? Can anyone explain what means this modes? | 19:50 |
| adrian47 | it is from touch script in boot.img | 19:51 |
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| dubstar-04 | whats the correct channel for RTM? Stable? | 20:10 |
| Bc1151 | nobody answers questions here :/ | 20:26 |
| darkdos | @all need help, quick question, trying to load ubuntu-touch onto a Nexus 7 (2012), troubles... My device is tilapia and tilapia is not on the https://system-image.ubuntu.com under any of the folders let alone devel... | 20:29 |
| darkdos | short answer: my device cant have ubuntu-touch on it? thats what im thinking | 20:31 |
| darkdos | Found my answer... "Support (as reference hardware) for the Nexus 7 (original model) is also now deprecated, with development focused on: Nexus 4 smartphone, Nexus 7 (2013) tablet, and Nexus 10 tablet." | 20:33 |
| darkdos | well thats just great. lol | 20:34 |
| ZacharyIgielman | You can still install it but you don't get OTA updates. Also it is now up to the community to maintain. Here it is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Obsolete | 20:39 |
| SturmFlut | mzanetti, popey: I am working on the libSDL stuff again. My first thought was to just pull all missing libraries out of their Utopic armhf packages and bundle them with my click package, but I can't seem to find an armhf libsdl package which depends on anything Mir-related | 21:04 |
| popey | SturmFlut: i thought libsdl was built with mir support these days.. | 21:04 |
| popey | bregma: ^ is that the case? | 21:05 |
| bregma | yes, it's true | 21:05 |
| bregma | SDL2.0 at least | 21:05 |
| bregma | dunno if the libSDL1.2 patch is in the archives | 21:05 |
| bregma | either way, it's a runtime dlopen-style dependency, so the package will not have a dependency | 21:07 |
| popey | i was also just playing with libsdl2 and a graphical app called love (which is commonly used for 2d games) | 21:07 |
| popey | I couldn't get that working on my nexus 7 | 21:07 |
| popey | tracing reveals... | 21:08 |
| popey | libSDL2-2.0.so.0->dlopen("libmirclient.so.8", 2PTRACE_SINGLESTEP: Input/output error | 21:08 |
| popey | 26895 couldn't continue when handling dlopen (0xb6b558fc) at 0xb6b558fc | 21:08 |
| bregma | hmmm, I wonder if there's a SONAME problem.... bschaefer isn't around (USA holiday today), he's the one to talk to | 21:08 |
| popey | SturmFlut: my strategy was to make my device read-write and try and get it working just "apt-getting" stuff from the archive. | 21:09 |
| popey | SturmFlut: if that worked, then try to bundle it all together in a click | 21:09 |
| popey | oh, didn't realise it was a US holiday. | 21:09 |
| popey | libmirclient8 is installed on my device which provides /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libmirclient.so.8 | 21:09 |
| popey | then a generic "Error: Failed to connect to the Mir Server" | 21:10 |
| popey | SturmFlut: so I think we need to wait for bschaefer | 21:10 |
| SturmFlut | popey: Hrmpf. Now I three of my new apps are on hold because general platform issues have to be resolved first ;) | 21:14 |
| popey | :( | 21:14 |
| SturmFlut | I have hopes for the Network Scanner, but ATM don't think the WiFi Analyzer can be implemented at all | 21:17 |
| SturmFlut | jdstrand: Did you maybe already have time to read check my unprivileged ICMP question? | 21:30 |
| popey | (he's also USA based) | 21:35 |
| SturmFlut | popey: Argh, right. | 21:37 |
| popey | sorry dude, i feel your pain :) | 21:40 |
| * popey wanders away from computers for a bit | 21:40 | |
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| SturmFlut | popey: Should I maybe take my requests to the mailing lists, as suggested by https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs? Would definitely make it easier to coordinate things. But ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-devel-discuss seem to be pretty much dead. | 22:01 |
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| SturmFlut | popey: SDL_Init(): Initialization failed: No available video device | 23:29 |
| SturmFlut | popey: But I managed to build a quite elaborate Qt Creator project which already bundles all the missing armhf libraries, have fun with https://github.com/Sturmflut/ubuntu-touch-sdl-template | 23:31 |
| SturmFlut | popey: For some reason it doesn't start the project on the phone when you switch to the armhf kit and press "Run", but you can build a click package using the "Publish" tab and install it on the device. Would be nice to find out why this is happening. | 23:33 |
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