=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [03:13] random user in #haxe thought that reinstalling their IDE would fix a compile issue with their code [03:14] don't you love how windows users do that?! [03:14] :D [03:14] turn it off and on again! [03:14] step one in diagnosis: reainstall all the things [03:14] --a [03:14] nuke it from orbit [03:14] it's nuts [03:15] weird one in #ubuntu earlier, some users getting their graphics device show up as vmware due to using that galium version or something (i don't have a clue what i'm talking about on that front) [03:15] so suddenly you start thinking they're using a VM and lying to you, but newp [03:15] o_O [03:15] really?! [03:15] *nod* [03:15] it reports a vmware card even when not virutal?! [03:16] hang on might still have the link [03:16] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=175164 [03:16] that really is wonky [03:17] oh. permissions. the user wasn't allowed to access the hardware [03:18] this is why x starts as root on most systems [03:18] donno why he was running it under a user account manually [03:18] oh, that haxe user just uttered: "I'm in the process of re installing again, even though I can see everything was installed to the right path." [03:19] doing it _again_ because doing it once didn't work! [03:19] lmao [03:19] diddledan: you must share this pearl of wisdom: "what is the definition of insanity? doing the exact same thing and expecting a different result!" [03:19] flogging a dead donky [03:20] lol [03:20] I suppose probability might come into it - the law of averages suggests that if he does it enough times he'll end up with shakespear [03:23] but there are no monkeys? [03:23] oh, good point [03:23] unless.. dan! you're not being rude to users again are you? :) [03:23] hmm [03:24] lol [03:25] me? rude? nevar! [03:28] :D [03:28] hmm just fed the next Sopranos bluray into my xbox [03:28] i don't really trust slot loaders [03:28] i remember getting one and seeing the little manual say "no heart shaped discs" [03:28] i've never even seen one O_O [05:04] morning all [05:05] o/ [05:05] just got into bed here [05:05] shift change! [05:06] heh [05:06] i gotta get some sleep soon [05:06] flight at 2 [05:06] \o/ [05:07] bed for me, laters \o [05:16] cya mate [05:26] none of the other night owls upo? [06:50] morning everyone [06:52] morn [06:52] hey mapp , how are you today [06:52] notbad gotta get a few hrs s;ee[ on a bit [06:53] sleep [06:53] fight at 2;30;] [06:56] You on your phone ? [06:59] nah netbook but watching tv..why because of my typos:P [06:59] heh [07:00] yep :) [07:01] ;] [07:01] grr , been trying to get retropi working on my raspberry pie for days now [07:01] somehow it doesn't seem to recognise the controller in the game. [07:02] documentation is poor , instructional video's are ancient. [07:03] been puting a lot of time in it so far . Still no luck. [07:15] gmblhhhh$ [07:15] Monday ... [08:01] back === opione is now known as knightwise === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:07] morning boys and girls. [09:08] good morning brobostigon [09:08] good morning knightwise [09:11] morning brobostigon, knightwise :) [09:11] hey christel [09:11] how are you on this gloomy monday [09:11] not too bad! could have done with an extra hour in bed! yourself? :) [09:12] same :) working from home today , so I kept the PJ's on as long as possible [09:12] Currently snuggle up with a book in the dark for about half an hour before I get ready for work :) [09:12] morning christel :) [09:12] Me + coffee + Ebook + darkness = 30 minutes of bloss [09:12] bliss [09:12] * brobostigon points out the window, and sees bright blue skies. [09:14] * knightwise has snow [09:15] :) [09:16] Morning all [09:17] hey davmor2 [09:17] morning davmor2 [09:30] hmmm.. raspberry pi is misbehaving [09:31] * knightwise is gonna kick it into the dmz and make it think about what its done [09:37] knightwise: "it"? a windows machine? [09:38] Raspbian running pi [09:39] what did it do wrong [09:39] retropi and my controller wont play nice [09:39] documentation is crap [09:39] what's retropi? [09:40] bad documentation... open source... you don't day :-) [09:40] *say [09:40] some open source stuff has awesome docs [09:40] those are people reading the code :-) [09:43] zmoylan-pi: have you *seen* the coreutils code? I prefer the man pages ;) [09:44] I'm trying to turn it into a retro gaming machine [09:45] Retropi = Raspberry pi + emulation station [09:45] An emulator distro [09:45] Drop ROMs and disk images into it, pow, instant gaming [09:46] (for given values of "instant" that involve making SDCard images and SSHing files) [09:46] and getting the friggin controllers working (my current issue) [09:46] Are we talking something like a std. XBox / PC controller? [09:47] correct . I got me a PS3 usb controller just to make it standard [09:47] today is will-nest-installer-keep-his-third-appointment day [09:47] place your bets [09:47] oh that sounds cool [09:47] Laney: maybe he has some Yodel packages to deliver first [09:48] SORRY YOU WERE OUT [09:52] "But you installed my thermostat" "Yeah but you weren't in a state to accept packages" [09:54] "in a state" as in "wearing pants when you opened the door ? " [09:54] wouldn't you need a kempston joystick for retro pi? :-) [09:54] it would be cool zmoylan-pi [09:55] http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/2634287974241518.JPG.19313260267924226 [09:55] I got me one of these too [09:55] and if you were nekkid when they arrived to deliver a package you were technically 'out' :-P [09:55] zmoylan-pi: what if you're closeted though.. then you're never "out" [09:56] out of the closet ? [09:58] * knightwise is out of line [10:00] Out of space [10:07] Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Tin Can Day! :-D === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [10:56] morning peeps [10:57] hello again [10:58] hey popey :) [10:58] happy monday to you [10:58] happy... monday...? [10:58] * zmoylan-pi looks askance at knightwise [10:58] zmoylan-pi: he's Belgian. They don't know better :P [10:58] zmoylan-pi: waves pink fluffy unicorn at zmoylan-pi [10:59] * zmoylan-pi shoots unicorn with nerf and mounts head on wall [10:59] * knightwise takes out garden hose to flood MartijnVdS 's country [11:00] Fact : Some dutch cities are further below the waterline then the maximum diving depth of the first submarines :) [11:01] And that's why we built a system of interlocking walls, to keep back the water ;) [11:01] also, we check them a lot [11:02] a wall that keeps water out also keeps water in [11:03] they're funny that way :-) [11:03] zmoylan-pi: don't put water in then ;) [11:03] Why use a garden hose when a few pounds of strategically placed dynamite will do? [11:03] * zmoylan-pi shakes fist at clouds [11:04] Dutch people are not like pot noodles [11:04] don't add water to make them tasty [11:05] might make them testy [11:05] * knightwise thinks we should get off MartijnVdS 's case :) [11:06] zmoylan-pi: give me back my pink fluffy unicorn head ! [11:06] knightwise, a quick check of Rule 34 proves you wrong as predicted [11:06] * zmoylan-pi hands back knightwise's fluffy unicorn head on the nice wooden plaque [11:06] awilkins: thanx for that :) [11:07] zmoylan-pi: at least now I don't have to feed it anymore [11:08] it must be hard to fund a store that stocks unicorn food [11:08] Its even harder to find the rainbow-pooper-scoopers [11:09] i'd have though unicorn poop sold on ebay for a bundle [11:09] zmoylan-pi: my business plan .. right there ! [11:12] soooo weird .. but pretty soothing to listen to http://youarelistening.to/numbers === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === jpds_ is now known as jpds [11:34] JamesTait: Oh you'll never go to heaven, rpt, In a bake bean tin, rpt, cause a baked bean tin, rpt, got baked beans in, rtp :) [11:35] fancy that, he did turn up [11:36] davmor2, oh you'll never go to heaven in a baked bean tin, cos a baked bean tin's got baked beans in.... [11:36] Lalalala [11:36] * JamesTait hums along to himself [11:37] oh.... I ain't gonna cry, I ain't gonna cry my lord, I ain't gonna cry my lord === aquarius_ is now known as aquarius [12:16] buh bye [12:17] gotta go to the airport now [12:17] assuming i can get a taxi:D [12:17] are they in season? :-) [12:18] well [12:19] it's hard to get one here sometimes [12:19] called one at the border on friday..told 5mins..never turns up! [12:26] ah, you called interdimensional taxis. always on a different plane [12:27] *groan* === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:56] Good morning peeps :) [13:57] moin [13:59] is it? [14:01] morning bigcalm [14:01] It's close enough [14:04] I suppose monday is the morning of the week ahead [14:08] hey, cpu people [14:08] i know what socket my mobo has, is there a way to see what the "best" cpu I can put in it is? [14:08] popey: wikipedia has lists of CPUs by socket [14:09] popey: or if you're up for some parsing Dutch, tweakers.net/pricewatch -> go to the CPU ("processoren") category, then select the socket in the sidebar [14:09] that + Intel's ARK [14:10] hmmm [14:10] it has a sandybridge i7 2600 in it [14:10] according to wikipedia I could go to ivy bridge [14:11] popey: check the mainboard manual as well, some never get the newer bios required for newer CPU support [14:11] ah, true [14:12] i7-3770k is a good one.. I have its successor (4770k) and it's *FAST* [14:18] i7-4500U - don't suppose there's any point in trying to change a laptop's CPU? [14:29] popey: mobo instruction book? [14:30] haha [14:30] no idea where that is! [14:30] popey: pdf is on the mobo manufactures site [14:30] get it online quicker [14:30] yeah. dunno if it will mentioned CPUs made after the mobo tho :) [14:30] just make sure you know what revision your bios is. just in case [14:31] popey: it has to tell you what it supports or you can put in the wrong chip :) === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [14:34] popey: quick look at my board in google threw up this site http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/ [14:34] that's a BGA package, it's almost certainly soldered [14:35] i7-4500U that is [15:17] does anyone know what is the UK keyboard map for preseeding during a PXE setup? [15:18] the line "d-i keyboard-configuration/layoutcode string uk" seems don't work === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [16:07] cocoa117: try EN_GB maybe? [16:08] davmor2, tried that, i thought that is locale settings [16:20] Morning intrbiz [16:24] bigcalm: morning [16:24] bigcalm: how goes the office? managed to find somewhere to park? [16:24] intrbiz: it's cold here. We've even had snow (not a lot though) [16:25] Yeah, parked at Abbey Foregate and walked in. It's fairly cheap at £2.70 for the day [16:25] bigcalm: snow today? [16:25] bigcalm: not had any snow here today, a little yesterday which didn't stick [16:25] intrbiz: considering parting up by the cinema for free, but I don't know if they enforce a time restriction [16:25] Yeah, didn't stick here as well, darn cold though [16:26] bigcalm: i've parked before at cinema / asda for a day without hassel, not sure if I'd do it regularly [16:28] I'm going to be knackered this evening [16:28] Driving straight to badminton from here. Wont be eating before. Think anybody will be up for eating afterwards? [16:29] bigcalm: i would be, depends who else shows [16:32] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZeUntdObCA [16:33] intrbiz: good lad :) === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [18:58] oy vey [19:09] allo daftykins [19:10] * diddledan watching the video that bashrc posted a while ago [19:10] about ipmi [19:10] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZeUntdObCA) [19:11] the mjg59 one? [19:11] was fun. not finished it yet [19:12] the one about OneRNG was also interesting [19:21] "i can't believe it's not VNC" :D [19:35] what's the canonical way to make disks sleep on linux? [19:35] power button [19:35] :-p [19:35] I have 2x4 disk arrays in my server, and often they're idle for extended periods [19:36] useful [19:36] hdparm can set a timeout I believe [19:36] ah thats it [19:36] \o/ [19:36] I'm awesome! [19:37] hdparm -B /dev/sda [19:37] APM_level = not supported [19:38] i keep mine spinning 'cause my old man always told me spinning down and up induced wear 0o [19:38] but then i have enterprise level disks / WD Reds now [19:40] This is actually very beautiful & very wise. A little gem of wisdom for download &/or wisdom. Beautiful words re being old vs being young [19:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9787964/ [19:40] argh it's not window wrapped [19:40] yeah, sorry about that -download & read as text [19:41] seems to prompt for login doing that [19:41] oh boogah! will correct it now [19:42] right, all set to spin down after 5 mins. lets see how that works out [19:42] 'tis nice that :) [19:43] wheee, building stuff on my phone [19:46] that'll be a hot potato :) [19:46] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9788048/ [19:46] try that [19:46] huzzah! [19:46] its surprisingly not :S [19:47] oh, balls, only building in one core [19:47] that was foolish [19:47] * popey considers killing it and adding a -j4 [19:48] hah! that's mnore like it [19:49] popey, permission to go very off topic for a mo, please... [19:49] did you get FreeDOS running as a live USB? [19:49] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9788067/ [19:49] yes! [19:49] hurumph! [19:49] used it to update firmware on my hard drives :) [19:49] zero effort [19:50] http://chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb/ [19:50] used that [19:50] * SuperEngineer is overcome with jealousy [19:50] what didnt work for you? [19:50] ..and is now checking out that link. Thanks [19:50] i've also used win98 boot files to make a bootable flash drive for DOS tools [19:51] I used Unetbootin.. it kept failing [on 3 machines] saying it wasn't there... even it was telling me it wasn't there [19:51] you could fit a lot of old dos games on a 32gb usb stick [19:52] oh no dont use that [19:52] just dd it [19:52] dd if=foo of=/dev/sdX [19:52] yeah... I definitely got the idea that it was not suitable for Unetbootin! [19:52] could even fit windows 3.1 and loads of silly windows stuff on a stick [19:52] * popey ponders [19:52] could be fun [19:53] could be fun to _install_ dos and windows on a laptop actually [19:53] not done that for a while. [19:53] "FreeDOS prebuilt bootable USB flash drive image"... now why does that seem a more sensible option... lol [19:53] hehe [19:54] popey: dos and windows 95 or 3.11 [19:54] will give it a go - again, thank you [19:54] dual boot! [19:54] windows 95 would get owned in seconds [19:54] although with no wifi driver, might be okay :D [19:54] * popey is tempted [19:54] popey: hahaha [19:55] can't connect to the internet still powned [19:55] :) [19:56] wheee [19:56] * SuperEngineer installed an old out of support XFCE [Werewolf] derivative on old netbook yesterday. No wifi needed for intended purpose, so safe, so fast :) [19:56] I was kind of rich for an hour there [19:59] oh? [20:01] popey: borrowed some money, buying a garage in my appartment building. Money's in escrow now. [20:02] apartment? Dutch uses 2 p's there. We're weird. [20:18] popey, SuperEngineer now has bootable FreeDOS US. Thank you. [20:18] *USB [20:18] huzzah! [20:18] fill it with stuff! [20:18] DOS stuff? [20:18] will do! [20:18] WordPerfect 5.1? [20:18] Norton Commander? [20:18] yeasssss - norton Commander! [20:19] * SuperEngineer into timewarp of real Peter Norton, forgets symantec [ooooo - so pleasant!] [20:20] laplink3 for serial cable transfers [20:20] considering Sidekick now [20:20] pkzip 2.04g [20:20] ooh yeah [20:21] Telix! [20:21] i probably have a copy here if i look :-) [20:21] dbase iii+ [20:21] lotus 123 [20:21] ooh yes [20:22] qbasic [20:22] zmoylan-pi: nah the full suite - quickbasic 4.5 [20:22] oooh, then qbx 7.1 [20:22] "Last stable release: 4.5 - 1988 - 27 years ago" [20:23] thanks wikipedia. Now I feel old [20:23] they moved to qbx quick basic extended after that [20:23] ...that was also my last stable "release" - proud to say I've never been stable since! :D [20:24] 8-) [20:24] * MartijnVdS stables SuperEngineer [20:32] :) [20:36] never thought typing "dir c:" & "dir a:" could make a person so happy [20:37] there [20:37] 's a dos web browser iirc [20:37] archne? [20:37] windows95/dos : cd progra~1 [20:38] arachne? [20:38] as in arachnid, spider, web [20:39] think so, i used it in 90s to get 286 on the web [20:39] let me look... [20:40] still going... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne_(web_browser) [20:43] ...hmmm just tried typing dir staights: :) [20:43] *straights [20:44] took 15 minutes to render slashdot page, not bad on 14,400 modem and 286 with 640k ram [20:46] zmoylan-pi: try again in a vm :-D [20:46] zmoylan-pi: on an octocore 16GB RAMS uberbeast [20:47] nah this was a proper 286 with b&w vga card. so even if you plugged in colour monitor you got b&w image :-) [20:47] aye, load the same page on a monster and measure the difference :-p [20:52] Where do I file a FreeDOS bug: need to file a report "FreeDOS has just caused me to book next weekend for digging out my old DOS disks" ;) [20:59] \o/ disk spindown working [20:59] took 30s to ls a directory \o/ [21:12] time to go eat - thanks for the help folks [he says sneaking FreeDOS USB into pocket] ;) [21:14] freedos on usb... just to annoy the nsa and their automatic tools :-) [21:25] bah. you know it's too cold to type when bash complains it can't find 'fimd' or 'greg' [21:25] I hate greg [21:25] he's an evil SOB [21:28] I have no heating and it's been quite chilly lately. of course, my response has been to stick an arduino in the kitchen to keep track of how cold :) [21:32] I just got into a conversation with one of the young chaps at work. Had to explain to him all about the Domesday Project. [22:42] why do you have no heating? [22:51] heating ftw [22:52] ^ [22:52] got down to between 4 and 6 deg C here, house dips to ~12 and becomes pretty nasty [22:53] last night i took the wireless thermostat up to the bedroom so i could fire it up before getting out XD [22:53] i can't use a program because i'm too inconsistent [22:53] teehee [22:54] I should put some socks on - naked feet causes heatloss [22:54] indeed! [22:54] ugh, another monday game night ruined due to Microsoft [22:54] grr [22:54] they can't keep their damned online services up for 5 minutes [22:54] what did they do this time? [22:54] aah [22:55] their online services aren't [22:55] basically i can play games but my friends list doesn't work, so i can't actually play them with my two pals [22:57] zmoylan-pi: because oil heating is normal here, and oil heating means that lazy people don't know they're running out until they run out [22:57] \o/ [22:57] =] [22:57] good times [22:59] it was 5.2 degrees when I woke up. 5.2 *indoors* [22:59] ouch [23:00] O_O [23:00] foreigheit or centius? :> [23:00] lol. degrees Censible, not degrees Freedom [23:00] good lawd [23:00] i thought my place had no insulation [23:01] well, it's better than last winter. I got my kitchen window fixed so it closes :) [23:01] lol [23:01] D: [23:01] small steps [23:01] you gotta go to work to warm up [23:02] I just shut myself in the living room with the fireplace [23:02] the rest of the house is a barren wasteland [23:27] current external temp 1c here [23:27] about 14c internally, usually have a clock with temp on it but it's grown legs at some point [23:36] * zmoylan-pi imagines shauno with a barrel with open fire in it in his room for some reason :-) [23:40] I'm not sure an underpass counts as "his room" [23:48] lol [23:50] as long as he has proper fingerless gloves and bobble hat he'll be grand