[03:13] <diddledan> random user in #haxe thought that reinstalling their IDE would fix a compile issue with their code
[03:14] <diddledan> don't you love how windows users do that?!
[03:14] <daftykins> :D
[03:14] <daftykins> turn it off and on again!
[03:14] <diddledan> step one in diagnosis: reainstall all the things
[03:14] <diddledan> --a
[03:14] <daftykins> nuke it from orbit
[03:14] <diddledan> it's nuts
[03:15] <daftykins> weird one in #ubuntu earlier, some users getting their graphics device show up as vmware due to using that galium version or something (i don't have a clue what i'm talking about on that front)
[03:15] <daftykins> so suddenly you start thinking they're using a VM and lying to you, but newp
[03:15] <diddledan> o_O
[03:15] <diddledan> really?!
[03:15] <daftykins> *nod*
[03:15] <diddledan> it reports a vmware card even when not virutal?!
[03:16] <daftykins> hang on might still have the link
[03:16] <daftykins> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=175164
[03:16] <diddledan> that really is wonky
[03:17] <diddledan> oh. permissions. the user wasn't allowed to access the hardware
[03:18] <diddledan> this is why x starts as root on most systems
[03:18] <diddledan> donno why he was running it under a user account manually
[03:18] <diddledan> oh, that haxe user just uttered: "I'm in the process of re installing again, even though I can see everything was installed to the right path."
[03:19] <diddledan> doing it _again_ because doing it once didn't work!
[03:19] <daftykins> lmao
[03:19] <daftykins> diddledan: you must share this pearl of wisdom: "what is the definition of insanity? doing the exact same thing and expecting a different result!"
[03:19] <diddledan> flogging a dead donky
[03:20] <diddledan> lol
[03:20] <diddledan> I suppose probability might come into it - the law of averages suggests that if he does it enough times he'll end up with shakespear
[03:23] <daftykins> but there are no monkeys?
[03:23] <diddledan> oh, good point
[03:23] <daftykins> unless.. dan! you're not being rude to users again are you? :)
[03:23] <diddledan> hmm
[03:24] <diddledan> lol
[03:25] <diddledan> me? rude? nevar!
[03:28] <daftykins> :D
[03:28] <daftykins> hmm just fed the next Sopranos bluray into my xbox
[03:28] <daftykins> i don't really trust slot loaders
[03:28] <daftykins> i remember getting one and seeing the little manual say "no heart shaped discs"
[03:28] <daftykins> i've never even seen one O_O
[05:04] <mapp> morning all
[05:05] <daftykins> o/
[05:05] <daftykins> just got into bed here
[05:05] <daftykins> shift change!
[05:06] <mapp> heh
[05:06] <mapp> i gotta get some sleep soon
[05:06] <mapp> flight at 2
[05:06] <daftykins> \o/
[05:07] <daftykins> bed for me, laters \o
[05:16] <mapp> cya mate
[05:26] <mapp> none of the other night owls upo?
[06:50] <knightwise> morning everyone
[06:52] <mapp> morn
[06:52] <knightwise> hey mapp , how are you today
[06:52] <mapp> notbad gotta get a few hrs s;ee[ on a bit
[06:53] <mapp> sleep
[06:53] <mapp> fight at 2;30;]
[06:56] <knightwise> You on your phone ?
[06:59] <mapp> nah netbook but watching tv..why because of my typos:P
[06:59] <mapp> heh
[07:00] <knightwise> yep :)
[07:01] <mapp> ;]
[07:01] <knightwise> grr , been trying to get retropi working on my raspberry pie for days now
[07:01] <knightwise> somehow it doesn't seem to recognise the controller in the game.
[07:02] <knightwise> documentation is poor , instructional video's are ancient.
[07:03] <knightwise> been puting a lot of time in it so far . Still no luck.
[07:15] <knightwise> gmblhhhh$
[07:15] <knightwise> Monday ...
[08:01] <opione> back
[09:07] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:08] <knightwise> good morning brobostigon
[09:08] <brobostigon> good morning knightwise
[09:11] <christel> morning brobostigon, knightwise :)
[09:11] <knightwise> hey christel
[09:11] <knightwise> how are you on this gloomy monday
[09:11] <christel> not too bad! could have done with an extra hour in bed! yourself? :)
[09:12] <knightwise> same :) working from home today , so I kept the PJ's on as long as possible
[09:12] <knightwise> Currently snuggle up with a book in the dark for about half an hour before I get ready for work :)
[09:12] <brobostigon> morning christel :)
[09:12] <knightwise> Me + coffee + Ebook + darkness = 30 minutes of bloss
[09:12] <knightwise> bliss
[09:12]  * brobostigon points out the window, and sees bright blue skies.
[09:14]  * knightwise has snow 
[09:15] <brobostigon> :)
[09:16] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:17] <knightwise> hey davmor2
[09:17] <brobostigon> morning davmor2
[09:30] <knightwise> hmmm.. raspberry pi is misbehaving
[09:31]  * knightwise is gonna kick it into the dmz and make it think about what its done
[09:37] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: "it"? a windows machine?
[09:38] <knightwise> Raspbian running pi
[09:39] <MartijnVdS> what did it do wrong
[09:39] <knightwise> retropi and my controller wont play nice
[09:39] <knightwise> documentation is crap
[09:39] <MartijnVdS> what's retropi?
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> bad documentation... open source... you don't day :-)
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> *say
[09:40] <MartijnVdS> some open source stuff has awesome docs
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> those are people reading the code :-)
[09:43] <MartijnVdS> zmoylan-pi: have you *seen* the coreutils code? I prefer the man pages ;)
[09:44] <knightwise> I'm trying to turn it into a retro gaming machine
[09:45] <knightwise> Retropi = Raspberry pi + emulation station
[09:45] <awilkins> An emulator distro
[09:45] <awilkins> Drop ROMs and disk images into it, pow, instant gaming
[09:46] <awilkins> (for given values of "instant" that involve making SDCard images and SSHing files)
[09:46] <knightwise> and getting the friggin controllers working (my current issue)
[09:46] <awilkins> Are we talking something like a std. XBox / PC controller?
[09:47] <knightwise> correct . I got me a PS3 usb controller just to make it standard
[09:47] <Laney> today is will-nest-installer-keep-his-third-appointment day
[09:47] <Laney> place your bets
[09:47] <MartijnVdS> oh that sounds cool
[09:47] <MartijnVdS> Laney: maybe he has some Yodel packages to deliver first
[09:48] <Laney> SORRY YOU WERE OUT
[09:52] <MartijnVdS> "But you installed my thermostat" "Yeah but you weren't in a state to accept packages"
[09:54] <knightwise> "in a state" as in "wearing pants when you opened the door ? "
[09:54] <zmoylan-pi> wouldn't you need a kempston joystick for retro pi? :-)
[09:54] <knightwise> it would be cool zmoylan-pi
[09:55] <knightwise> http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/2634287974241518.JPG.19313260267924226
[09:55] <knightwise> I got me one of these too
[09:55] <zmoylan-pi> and if you were nekkid when they arrived to deliver a package you were technically 'out' :-P
[09:55] <MartijnVdS> zmoylan-pi: what if you're closeted though.. then you're never "out"
[09:56] <knightwise> out of the closet ?
[09:58]  * knightwise is out of line
[10:00] <MartijnVdS> Out of space
[10:07] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Tin Can Day! :-D
[10:56] <knightwise> morning peeps
[10:57] <popey> hello again
[10:58] <knightwise> hey popey :)
[10:58] <knightwise> happy monday to you
[10:58] <zmoylan-pi> happy... monday...?
[10:58]  * zmoylan-pi looks askance at knightwise 
[10:58] <MartijnVdS> zmoylan-pi: he's Belgian. They don't know better :P
[10:58] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: waves pink fluffy unicorn at zmoylan-pi
[10:59]  * zmoylan-pi shoots unicorn with nerf and mounts head on wall
[10:59]  * knightwise takes out garden hose to flood MartijnVdS 's country
[11:00] <knightwise> Fact : Some dutch cities are further below the waterline then the maximum diving depth of the first submarines :)
[11:01] <MartijnVdS> And that's why we built a system of interlocking walls, to keep back the water ;)
[11:01] <MartijnVdS> also, we check them a lot
[11:02] <zmoylan-pi> a wall that keeps water out also keeps water in
[11:03] <zmoylan-pi> they're funny that way :-)
[11:03] <MartijnVdS> zmoylan-pi: don't put water in then ;)
[11:03] <awilkins> Why use a garden hose when a few pounds of strategically placed dynamite will do?
[11:03]  * zmoylan-pi shakes fist at clouds
[11:04] <knightwise> Dutch people are not like pot noodles
[11:04] <knightwise> don't add water to make them tasty
[11:05] <zmoylan-pi> might make them testy
[11:05]  * knightwise thinks we should get off MartijnVdS 's case :)
[11:06] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: give me back my pink fluffy unicorn head !
[11:06] <awilkins> knightwise, a quick check of Rule 34 proves you wrong as predicted
[11:06]  * zmoylan-pi hands back knightwise's fluffy unicorn head on the nice wooden plaque
[11:06] <knightwise> awilkins: thanx for that :)
[11:07] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: at least now I don't have to feed it anymore
[11:08] <zmoylan-pi> it must be hard to fund a store that stocks unicorn food
[11:08] <knightwise> Its even harder to find the rainbow-pooper-scoopers
[11:09] <zmoylan-pi> i'd have though unicorn poop sold on ebay for a bundle
[11:09] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: my business plan .. right there !
[11:12] <knightwise> soooo weird .. but pretty soothing to listen to http://youarelistening.to/numbers
[11:34] <davmor2> JamesTait: Oh you'll never go to heaven, rpt, In a bake bean tin, rpt, cause a baked bean tin, rpt, got baked beans in, rtp :)
[11:35] <Laney> fancy that, he did turn up
[11:36] <JamesTait> davmor2, oh you'll never go to heaven in a baked bean tin, cos a baked bean tin's got baked beans in....
[11:36] <JamesTait> Lalalala
[11:36]  * JamesTait hums along to himself
[11:37] <davmor2> oh.... I ain't gonna cry, I ain't gonna cry my lord, I ain't gonna cry my lord
[12:16] <mapp> buh bye
[12:17] <mapp> gotta go to the airport now
[12:17] <mapp> assuming i can get a taxi:D
[12:17] <zmoylan-pi> are they in season? :-)
[12:18] <mapp> well
[12:19] <mapp> it's hard to get one here sometimes
[12:19] <mapp> called one at the border on friday..told 5mins..never turns up!
[12:26] <zmoylan-pi> ah, you called interdimensional taxis. always on a different plane
[12:27] <MartijnVdS> *groan*
[13:56] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[13:57] <popey> moin
[13:59] <daubers> is it?
[14:01] <bashrc> morning bigcalm
[14:01] <bigcalm> It's close enough
[14:04] <daubers> I suppose monday is the morning of the week ahead
[14:08] <popey> hey, cpu people
[14:08] <popey> i know what socket my mobo has, is there a way to see what the "best" cpu I can put in it is?
[14:08] <MartijnVdS> popey: wikipedia has lists of CPUs by socket
[14:09] <MartijnVdS> popey: or if you're up for some parsing Dutch, tweakers.net/pricewatch -> go to the CPU ("processoren") category, then select the socket in the sidebar
[14:09] <MartijnVdS> that + Intel's ARK
[14:10] <popey> hmmm
[14:10] <popey> it has a sandybridge i7 2600 in it
[14:10] <popey> according to wikipedia I could go to ivy bridge
[14:11] <MartijnVdS> popey: check the mainboard manual as well, some never get the newer bios required for newer CPU support
[14:11] <popey> ah, true
[14:12] <MartijnVdS> i7-3770k is a good one.. I have its successor (4770k) and it's *FAST*
[14:18] <bigcalm> i7-4500U - don't suppose there's any point in trying to change a laptop's CPU?
[14:29] <davmor2> popey: mobo instruction book?
[14:30] <popey> haha
[14:30] <popey> no idea where that is!
[14:30] <davmor2> popey: pdf is on the mobo manufactures site
[14:30] <zmoylan-pi> get it online quicker
[14:30] <popey> yeah. dunno if it will mentioned CPUs made after the mobo tho :)
[14:30] <zmoylan-pi> just make sure you know what revision your bios is.  just in case
[14:31] <davmor2> popey: it has to tell you what it supports or you can put in the wrong chip :)
[14:34] <davmor2> popey: quick look at my board in google threw up this site http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/
[14:34] <ali1234> that's a BGA package, it's almost certainly soldered
[14:35] <ali1234> i7-4500U that is
[15:17] <cocoa117> does anyone know what is the UK keyboard map for preseeding during a PXE setup?
[15:18] <cocoa117> the line "d-i keyboard-configuration/layoutcode string uk" seems don't work
[16:07] <davmor2> cocoa117: try EN_GB maybe?
[16:08] <cocoa117> davmor2, tried that, i thought that is locale settings
[16:20] <bigcalm> Morning intrbiz
[16:24] <intrbiz> bigcalm: morning
[16:24] <intrbiz> bigcalm: how goes the office? managed to find somewhere to park?
[16:24] <bigcalm> intrbiz: it's cold here. We've even had snow (not a lot though)
[16:25] <bigcalm> Yeah, parked at Abbey Foregate and walked in. It's fairly cheap at £2.70 for the day
[16:25] <intrbiz> bigcalm: snow today?
[16:25] <intrbiz> bigcalm: not had any snow here today, a little yesterday which didn't stick
[16:25] <bigcalm> intrbiz: considering parting up by the cinema for free, but I don't know if they enforce a time restriction
[16:25] <bigcalm> Yeah, didn't stick here as well, darn cold though
[16:26] <intrbiz> bigcalm: i've parked before at cinema / asda for a day without hassel, not sure if I'd do it regularly
[16:28] <bigcalm> I'm going to be knackered this evening
[16:28] <bigcalm> Driving straight to badminton from here. Wont be eating before. Think anybody will be up for eating afterwards?
[16:29] <intrbiz> bigcalm: i would be, depends who else shows
[16:32] <bashrc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZeUntdObCA
[16:33] <bigcalm> intrbiz: good lad :)
[18:58] <daftykins> oy vey
[19:09] <diddledan> allo daftykins
[19:10]  * diddledan watching the video that bashrc posted a while ago
[19:10] <diddledan> about ipmi
[19:10] <diddledan> (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZeUntdObCA)
[19:11] <popey> the mjg59 one?
[19:11] <popey> was fun. not finished it yet
[19:12] <popey> the one about OneRNG was also interesting
[19:21] <daftykins> "i can't believe it's not VNC" :D
[19:35] <popey> what's the canonical way to make disks sleep on linux?
[19:35] <diddledan> power button
[19:35] <diddledan> :-p
[19:35] <popey> I have 2x4 disk arrays in my server, and often they're idle for extended periods
[19:36] <popey> useful
[19:36] <diddledan> hdparm can set a timeout I believe
[19:36] <popey> ah thats it
[19:36] <diddledan> \o/
[19:36] <diddledan> I'm awesome!
[19:37] <popey> hdparm -B /dev/sda
[19:37] <popey>  APM_level      = not supported
[19:38] <daftykins> i keep mine spinning 'cause my old man always told me spinning down and up induced wear 0o
[19:38] <daftykins> but then i have enterprise level disks / WD Reds now
[19:40] <SuperEngineer> This is actually very beautiful & very wise. A little gem of wisdom for download &/or wisdom.  Beautiful words re being old vs being young
[19:40] <SuperEngineer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9787964/
[19:40] <daftykins> argh it's not window wrapped
[19:40] <SuperEngineer> yeah, sorry about that -download & read as text
[19:41] <daftykins> seems to prompt for login doing that
[19:41] <SuperEngineer> oh boogah! will correct it now
[19:42] <popey> right, all set to spin down after 5 mins. lets see how that works out
[19:42] <daftykins> 'tis nice that :)
[19:43] <popey> wheee, building stuff on my phone
[19:46] <daftykins> that'll be a hot potato :)
[19:46] <SuperEngineer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9788048/
[19:46] <SuperEngineer> try that
[19:46] <daftykins> huzzah!
[19:46] <popey> its surprisingly not :S
[19:47] <popey> oh, balls, only building in one core
[19:47] <popey> that was foolish
[19:47]  * popey considers killing it and adding a -j4
[19:48] <popey> hah! that's mnore like it
[19:49] <SuperEngineer> popey, permission to go very off topic for a mo, please...
[19:49] <SuperEngineer> did you get FreeDOS running as a live USB?
[19:49] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9788067/
[19:49] <popey> yes!
[19:49] <SuperEngineer> hurumph!
[19:49] <popey> used it to update firmware on my hard drives :)
[19:49] <popey> zero effort
[19:50] <popey> http://chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb/
[19:50] <popey> used that
[19:50]  * SuperEngineer is overcome with jealousy
[19:50] <popey> what didnt work for you?
[19:50] <SuperEngineer> ..and is now checking out that link. Thanks
[19:50] <daftykins> i've also used win98 boot files to make a bootable flash drive for DOS tools
[19:51] <SuperEngineer> I used Unetbootin.. it kept failing [on 3 machines] saying it wasn't there... even it was telling me it wasn't there
[19:51] <popey> you could fit a lot of old dos games on a 32gb usb stick
[19:52] <popey> oh no dont use that
[19:52] <popey> just dd it
[19:52] <popey> dd if=foo of=/dev/sdX
[19:52] <SuperEngineer> yeah... I definitely got the idea that it was not suitable for Unetbootin!
[19:52] <popey> could even fit windows 3.1 and loads of silly windows stuff on a stick
[19:52]  * popey ponders
[19:52] <popey> could be fun
[19:53] <popey> could be fun to _install_ dos and windows on a laptop actually
[19:53] <popey> not done that for a while.
[19:53] <SuperEngineer> "FreeDOS prebuilt bootable USB flash drive image"... now why does that seem a more sensible option... lol
[19:53] <popey> hehe
[19:54] <davmor2> popey: dos and windows 95 or 3.11
[19:54] <SuperEngineer> will give it a go - again, thank you
[19:54] <popey> dual boot!
[19:54] <popey> windows 95 would get owned in seconds
[19:54] <popey> although with no wifi driver, might be okay :D
[19:54]  * popey is tempted
[19:54] <davmor2> popey: hahaha
[19:55] <davmor2> can't connect to the internet still powned
[19:55] <popey> :)
[19:56] <MartijnVdS> wheee
[19:56]  * SuperEngineer installed an old out of support XFCE [Werewolf] derivative on old netbook yesterday.  No wifi needed for intended purpose, so safe, so fast :)
[19:56] <MartijnVdS> I was kind of rich for an hour there
[19:59] <popey> oh?
[20:01] <MartijnVdS> popey: borrowed some money, buying a garage in my appartment building. Money's in escrow now.
[20:02] <MartijnVdS> apartment? Dutch uses 2 p's there. We're weird.
[20:18] <SuperEngineer> popey, SuperEngineer now has bootable FreeDOS US.  Thank you.
[20:18] <SuperEngineer> *USB
[20:18] <popey> huzzah!
[20:18] <popey> fill it with stuff!
[20:18] <MartijnVdS> DOS stuff?
[20:18] <SuperEngineer> will do!
[20:18] <MartijnVdS> WordPerfect 5.1?
[20:18] <MartijnVdS> Norton Commander?
[20:18] <SuperEngineer> yeasssss - norton Commander!
[20:19]  * SuperEngineer into timewarp of real Peter Norton, forgets symantec [ooooo - so pleasant!]
[20:20] <zmoylan-pi> laplink3 for serial cable transfers
[20:20] <SuperEngineer> considering Sidekick now
[20:20] <zmoylan-pi> pkzip 2.04g
[20:20] <MartijnVdS> ooh yeah
[20:21] <MartijnVdS> Telix!
[20:21] <zmoylan-pi> i probably have a copy here if i look :-)
[20:21] <zmoylan-pi> dbase iii+
[20:21] <zmoylan-pi> lotus 123
[20:21] <MartijnVdS> ooh yes
[20:22] <zmoylan-pi> qbasic
[20:22] <MartijnVdS> zmoylan-pi: nah the full suite - quickbasic 4.5
[20:22] <zmoylan-pi> oooh, then qbx 7.1
[20:22] <MartijnVdS> "Last stable release: 4.5 - 1988 - 27 years ago"
[20:23] <MartijnVdS> thanks wikipedia. Now I feel old
[20:23] <zmoylan-pi> they moved to qbx quick basic extended after that
[20:23] <SuperEngineer> ...that was also my last stable "release" - proud to say I've never been stable since!  :D
[20:24] <MartijnVdS> 8-)
[20:24]  * MartijnVdS stables SuperEngineer 
[20:32] <SuperEngineer> :)
[20:36] <SuperEngineer> never thought typing "dir c:" & "dir a:" could make a person so happy
[20:37] <zmoylan-pi> there
[20:37] <zmoylan-pi> 's a dos web browser iirc
[20:37] <zmoylan-pi> archne?
[20:37] <diddledan> windows95/dos : cd progra~1
[20:38] <diddledan> arachne?
[20:38] <diddledan> as in arachnid, spider, web
[20:39] <zmoylan-pi> think so, i used it in 90s to get 286 on the web
[20:39] <zmoylan-pi> let me look...
[20:40] <zmoylan-pi> still going... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne_(web_browser)
[20:43] <SuperEngineer> ...hmmm just tried typing dir staights:   :)
[20:43] <SuperEngineer> *straights
[20:44] <zmoylan-pi> took 15 minutes to render slashdot page, not bad on 14,400 modem and 286 with 640k ram
[20:46] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: try again in a vm :-D
[20:46] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: on an octocore 16GB RAMS uberbeast
[20:47] <zmoylan-pi> nah this was a proper 286 with b&w vga card. so even if you plugged in colour monitor you got b&w image :-)
[20:47] <diddledan> aye, load the same page on a monster and measure the difference :-p
[20:52] <SuperEngineer> Where do I file a FreeDOS bug: need to file a report "FreeDOS has just caused me to book next weekend for digging out my old DOS disks"  ;)
[20:59] <popey> \o/ disk spindown working
[20:59] <popey> took 30s to ls a directory \o/
[21:12] <SuperEngineer> time to go eat - thanks for the help folks [he says sneaking FreeDOS USB into pocket] ;)
[21:14] <zmoylan-pi> freedos on usb... just to annoy the nsa and their automatic tools :-)
[21:25] <shauno> bah.  you know it's too cold to type when bash complains it can't find 'fimd' or 'greg'
[21:25] <diddledan> I hate greg
[21:25] <diddledan> he's an evil SOB
[21:28] <shauno> I have no heating and it's been quite chilly lately.  of course, my response has been to stick an arduino in the kitchen to keep track of how cold :)
[21:32] <lopta> I just got into a conversation with one of the young chaps at work. Had to explain to him all about the Domesday Project.
[22:42] <zmoylan-pi> why do you have no heating?
[22:51] <diddledan> heating ftw
[22:52] <daftykins> ^
[22:52] <daftykins> got down to between 4 and 6 deg C here, house dips to ~12 and becomes pretty nasty
[22:53] <daftykins> last night i took the wireless thermostat up to the bedroom so i could fire it up before getting out XD
[22:53] <daftykins> i can't use a program because i'm too inconsistent
[22:53] <diddledan> teehee
[22:54] <diddledan> I should put some socks on - naked feet causes heatloss
[22:54] <daftykins> indeed!
[22:54] <daftykins> ugh, another monday game night ruined due to Microsoft
[22:54] <diddledan> grr
[22:54] <daftykins> they can't keep their damned online services up for 5 minutes
[22:54] <diddledan> what did they do this time?
[22:54] <diddledan> aah
[22:55] <diddledan> their online services aren't
[22:55] <daftykins> basically i can play games but my friends list doesn't work, so i can't actually play them with my two pals
[22:57] <shauno> zmoylan-pi: because oil heating is normal here, and oil heating means that lazy people don't know they're running out until they run out
[22:57] <diddledan> \o/
[22:57] <daftykins> =]
[22:57] <daftykins> good times
[22:59] <shauno> it was 5.2 degrees when I woke up.  5.2 *indoors*
[22:59] <diddledan> ouch
[23:00] <daftykins> O_O
[23:00] <daftykins> foreigheit or centius? :>
[23:00] <shauno> lol.  degrees Censible, not degrees Freedom
[23:00] <daftykins> good lawd
[23:00] <daftykins> i thought my place had no insulation
[23:01] <shauno> well, it's better than last winter.  I got my kitchen window fixed so it closes :)
[23:01] <diddledan> lol
[23:01] <daftykins> D:
[23:01] <diddledan> small steps
[23:01] <daftykins> you gotta go to work to warm up
[23:02] <shauno> I just shut myself in the living room with the fireplace
[23:02] <shauno> the rest of the house is a barren wasteland
[23:27] <zmoylan-pi> current external temp 1c here
[23:27] <zmoylan-pi> about 14c internally, usually have a clock with temp on it but it's grown legs at some point
[23:36]  * zmoylan-pi imagines shauno with a barrel with open fire in it in his room for some reason :-)
[23:40] <diddledan> I'm not sure an underpass counts as "his room"
[23:48] <m0nkey_> lol
[23:50] <zmoylan-pi> as long as he has proper fingerless gloves and bobble hat he'll be grand