[05:18] <Kilos> morning guys
[05:32] <Symmetria>  7:32AM  up 2334 days, 21:51, 2 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00
[05:32] <Symmetria> !
[05:37] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  bduk  
[05:37] <bduk> more almal
[05:38] <nlsthzn> good morning all..
[05:51] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[05:51] <mazal> More oom
[06:14] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[06:37] <nuvolari> o/ mornings
[06:37] <nuvolari> oh hi bduk, nlsthzn, oom Kilos, mazal, Symmetria 
[06:37] <nuvolari> nice uptime!
[06:37] <Kilos> lo nuvolari  
[06:37] <Kilos> jy moet meer tyd hier spandeer man
[06:37] <nuvolari> ek is mos nou hier oom :P
[06:38] <Kilos> veral in die aande
[06:38] <Kilos> en
[06:38] <Kilos> en
[06:38] <nuvolari> ons is verby die helfde van die maand. friggin ruthless 2015
[06:38] <Kilos> jy moet saam met ons aansoek doen vir ubuntu membership
[06:38] <nuvolari> wat behels dit oom Kilos?
[06:38] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:38] <nuvolari> ek is nie aktief genoeg in die gemeenskap nie :-/
[06:39] <Kilos> jy sal wees
[06:39] <Kilos> na ons reverification het daar n pos gekom wat se ons moet meer doen
[06:39] <Kilos> hehe
[06:40] <Kilos> sien jy daai pos van gert op die 7de
[06:40] <Kilos> en jy stoel op die 27de ne
[06:42] <Kilos> morning superfly  
[06:42] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:42] <superfly> I'm just talking about you...
[06:42] <Kilos> uh oh
[06:42] <superfly> morning nuvolari, ThatGraemeGuy, mazal, bduk, nlsthzn
[06:42] <Kilos> i didnt do it
[06:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> hi fly
[06:43] <superfly> I'm applying for Ubuntu membership, so if anyone wants to write 3 words on how awful I am, here's the place to do it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/superfly
[06:44] <ThatGraemeGuy>  "That guy? Ugh!"
[06:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> 3 words, done!
[06:44] <superfly> perfect!
[06:45] <Kilos> lol
[06:46] <nuvolari> oh hi superfly!
[06:46] <nuvolari> oom Kilos, het oom vir my 'n email subject? samblief
[06:47] <Kilos> nuvolari  Follow up from LOCO Ubuntu ZA re-verification
[06:48] <Kilos> superfly  one must do it in edit mode right? 
[06:48] <Kilos> i dont wanna mess up
[06:50] <superfly> Kilos: yes. I'll make a little template quickly
[06:50] <Kilos> cool
[06:53] <Kilos> im trying to add stuff to the agenda as well but the add button is no longer there so it looks like that is also edit mode
[06:57] <Kilos> inetpro  wake up sleepy head
[07:00] <nuvolari> I have no mail with that subject :-/
[07:02] <Kilos> nuvolari  i posted it last night on slexy, hold on ill do it again
[07:03] <Kilos> nuvolari  http://slexy.org/view/s21RPzEuzC
[07:03] <Kilos> slexy is lekker fast today
[07:07] <Kilos> ill reply to him as well so you should get it in new mails now now
[07:11] <Kilos> nuvolari  i missed the start sorry
[07:11] <Kilos> [ubuntu-za] Follow up from LOCO Ubuntu ZA re-verification
[07:13] <Kilos> i go sort sheep out
[07:30] <mazal> Morning everyone
[07:42] <mazal> superfly, how do I add testimonial for you ? I don't see a button for it ?
[08:02] <Kilos> mazal you have to edit the page
[08:02] <Kilos> i just added mine
[08:02] <mazal> Oom Kilos , I don't see the edit button anywhere , where is it located on the page ?
[08:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> top left under the ubuntu wiki logo
[08:03] <Kilos> are you on ubuntu?
[08:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: does it say immutable page?
[08:04] <Kilos> ty ThatGraemeGuy  
[08:07] <mazal> Found it thanx ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:08] <mazal> I kept looking at the bottom where testimonials are :P
[08:09] <Kilos> lol
[08:10] <mazal> btw ook Kilos , I'm so in love with Kubuntu I am considering putting it on my home pc as well ;)
[08:10] <Kilos> lekker man
[08:10] <mazal> Maar dis groot werk ai
[08:10] <Kilos> ja jy moet tyd spandeer om als te leer doen
[08:11] <Kilos> but once you understand most of it there is nothing to compare imo
[08:12] <mazal> problem is , I'm gonna have to put in a new pc and re-arrange my whole living room for that
[08:12] <mazal> That's the work I'm talking about
[08:12] <Kilos> just rsync your /home folder to a stick or something then it makes a new install easier
[08:12] <Kilos> hahaha
[08:13] <mazal> Main machine there has Win 7 on ( for gaming ) so can't change that. BUT , I have a server with Ubuntu on it. So considering to changing my server to my main pc with K on it.
[08:13] <mazal> But then I have a problem with server
[08:14]  * nlsthzn is back from the shops 
[08:14] <nlsthzn> oh hi superfly 
[08:14] <Kilos> you could just install kubuntu-desktop but im not sure what will be left out
[08:15] <mazal> Noo that was a fail
[08:15] <mazal> I tried that on my work pc
[08:15] <mazal> VERY unstable
[08:15] <Kilos> oh my
[08:15] <mazal> That's why I formatted it and installed just Kubuntu
[08:15] <Kilos> aha
[08:15] <mazal> Ya I couldn't even get k3b to work
[08:16] <Kilos> ya i think clean installs are better
[08:16] <Kilos> eish
[08:16] <mazal> Too many desktops on the same install doesn't seem like a good idea
[08:16] <Kilos> i even have k3b on unity
[08:17] <mazal> So at home , I will have to add some server stuff to the K install and hope it runs ok , I needs my server , too many things that runs to it
[08:17] <Kilos> ah then you can just install the server stuff afterwards
[08:18] <mazal> Yeah , just hope it stays stable
[08:18] <Kilos> you need a bad drive to make kde unstable i think
[08:18] <mazal> It has never been an issue with unity , but haven't done it in K yet. But I don't think it will be an issue
[08:20] <mazal> I'm wish I never went to PC gaming. Was a big mistake that. That forces Win onto me. But I have so many games for it now , can't let all that money go to waste
[08:20] <mazal> Should have stayed on console with my pc's only ubuntu like it was
[08:21] <Kilos> lol
[08:21] <Kilos> get an xbox or playstaion
[08:21] <Kilos> station
[08:22] <mazal> I have for many years then little more than a year ago changed that
[08:24] <mazal> So now I first have some logistical problems to sort out and then will move to K there
[08:24] <Kilos> ok
[08:24] <mazal> Must re-arrange the living room lol
[08:24] <Kilos> have they found a way to add ram to playstations
[08:24] <Kilos> haha
[08:25] <mazal> nope
[08:25] <Kilos> i looked at maybe getting an old one and use it as a pc
[08:25] <mazal> But I must say , I have huge respect for that PS3 hey. Mine has been going for 7 years now. Still going like a boing and still manages to play todays games. Last year still saw new releases
[08:25] <Kilos> imo its just ram that they run low on
[08:25] <mazal> That's a proper piece of hardware
[08:26] <Kilos> wow
[08:26] <mazal> And tough as nails. Doesn't break. Only weakness is the BD drive. That eventually breaks down
[08:26] <Kilos> BD drive?
[08:27] <mazal> Blue ray drive
[08:27] <Kilos> ah
[08:27] <mazal> I dunno if the new PS4 is that strong , time will tell
[08:31] <Kilos> maybe one day ill get one and see how it does as a desktop pc
[08:33] <Kilos> i looked at some of the modern games my boet has on his lappy. they are too fast for me to even think of playing
[08:33] <Kilos> so i play freecell and mahjong
[08:35] <mazal> The current era in gaming is very bad actually
[08:36] <mazal> Most games release totally broken with massive day one patches
[08:36] <mazal> Many games are online only
[08:36] <mazal> And almost all of them release only 60 to 70% and rest you must by with DLC
[08:36] <mazal> These days they say what is going to be DLC even before the main game release
[08:38] <mazal> So at the end of the day , you paid for two games to get 1 full game and have to do insanely big updates to fix the game as well
[08:40] <Kilos> eish
[08:41] <superfly> Kilos, mazal: you need to add the "@SIG@" at the end of your testimonials
[08:41] <mazal> k
[08:41] <Kilos> oh ok lemme try that
[08:42] <mazal> Done
[08:43] <Kilos> oh my
[08:45] <Kilos> die engelse is slim ne
[09:38] <Kilos> hi smile  
[09:38] <smile> hi Kilos :)
[09:43] <smile> amazon is slow :p
[09:45] <Kilos> its because they got old peeps working there
[09:46] <Kilos> hire a teenager while they know everything
[09:48] <smile> I ordered on friday evenin :P
[09:48] <smile> * evening
[09:48] <smile> so that means delivery on wednesday
[09:48] <smile> or thursday
[09:49] <Kilos> ordered what?
[09:56] <smile> ssd ;)
[09:56] <smile> samsung evo 850
[09:56] <smile> http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-MZ-75E500B-EU-interne-silber/dp/B00P73B1E4/?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1421421337&sr=1-2&keywords=samsung+850+evo
[09:57] <smile> or English if you prefer: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E500B-AM/dp/B00OBRE5UE/?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421339445&sr=1-1&keywords=Samsung+850+EVO+500GB+2.5-Inch+SATA+III+Internal+SSD+%28MZ-75E500B%2FAM%29&tag=lifehackeramzn-20&ascsubtag=%5Br|theoldreader.com%5Bt|link%5Bp|1679714645%5Ba|B00OBRE5UE%5Bau|5727177402741770316
[09:57] <Kilos> wow thats great, be patient
[09:57] <Kilos> expensive hey
[09:58] <Kilos> where is your link shortening tool
[09:58] <Kilos> Maaz  shorten http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E500B-AM/dp/B00OBRE5UE/?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421339445&sr=1-1&keywords=Samsung+850+EVO+500GB+2.5-Inch+SATA+III+Internal+SSD+%28MZ-75E500B%2FAM%29&tag=lifehackeramzn-20&ascsubtag=%5Br|theoldreader.com%5Bt|link%5Bp|1679714645%5Ba|B00OBRE5UE%5Bau|5727177402741770316
[09:58] <Maaz> Kilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/7JM8Q5
[09:58] <Kilos> use the bot in pm mode
[09:59] <smile> sorry, Kilos ;)
[09:59] <smile> Kilos: yeah, pretty expensive stuff ;)
[09:59] <smile> also pretty good stuff :D
[10:00] <smile> a new year's present from my parents :)
[10:00] <Kilos> lovely
[10:02] <smile> indeed :)
[10:03] <smile> now downloading 600 megabyte :P
[10:03] <smile> oh, 700 xD
[10:03] <smile> new graphics stack, new init system and new browsers :P
[10:04] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:05] <Kilos> spoiled
[10:06] <smile> oh yeah, new virtualbox too :P
[10:06] <smile> and wine :p
[10:06] <Kilos> whew
[10:06] <smile> I'm not sure my system will boot in a few moments :D
[10:06] <Kilos> haha
[10:08] <smile> Kilos: was it you who advised me to make money on the internet instead of working for free on Wikipedia? :P
[10:09] <Kilos> ya lol
[10:09] <smile> I'm on http://clixsense.com now ;)
[10:09] <smile> I earned 30 dollars already :)
[10:09] <Kilos> cool
[10:09] <smile> they pay via paypal, no fees :)
[10:10] <Kilos> nice
[10:10] <smile> yeah. I used adsclickcash.com too, but they are evil
[10:11] <smile> the fee is 1/2 of the amount they pay you
[10:11] <Kilos> ai!
[10:11] <smile> you need to be a member for at least 30 days
[10:11] <smile> and you can only ask for 1 dollar at a time
[10:11] <smile> and you need to wait 45 days for your next payment
[10:11] <Kilos> wow that sucks
[10:12] <Kilos> have they got any suckers working for them even?
[10:12] <smile> yeah. So I'm just getting my money away from that site into paypal every 45 days and I won't invest my time there any longer ;)
[10:12] <smile> lol, Kilos :p clixsense is more popular :)
[10:13] <smile> Kilos: they have paid about 1000 dollars
[10:13] <Kilos> peeps that use others badly shouldnt even be supported
[10:13] <smile> that means only 1000 payments
[10:13] <smile> on adsclickcash
[10:13] <smile> on clixsense: We've paid our 4,385,875 members $9,827,282.92 on time, every time!
[10:13] <smile> :)
[10:14] <Kilos> cool
[10:14] <Kilos> support those kinds of people
[10:14] <smile> yeah :D
[10:19] <smile> I like pacman ;) it's the package management system of Arch Linux
[10:19] <smile> you can run pacman multiple times :) that makes the best use of your bandwidth and cpu power
[10:34] <smile> rebooting :)
[10:47] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:47] <Kilos> whew i thought you broke it
[10:48] <smile> hi :)
[10:48] <smile> my computer is still booting ;)
[10:48] <Kilos> yay
[10:49] <smile> No, I had to reboot a few times to clean up my GRUB menu
[10:49] <smile> :)
[10:54] <Kilos> Maaz  seen inetpro  
[10:54] <Maaz> Kilos: inetpro was last seen 21 hours, 4 minutes and 23 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-01-18 05:50:00 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2015-01-18 03:47:28 PST
[10:54] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:57]  * mazal must still find the proper way of cleaning up grub
[11:09] <Kilos> what is there to clean up?
[11:10] <Kilos> smile what do you do to clean up grub
[11:12] <mazal> Remove the old kernels
[11:13] <Kilos> if it aint broke dont fix it
[11:13] <mazal> Well that's mostly what is being done
[11:13] <Kilos> dpesnt apt-get autoclean do that
[11:13] <mazal> I dunno
[11:13] <Kilos> or apt-get clean
[11:14] <mazal> I tried it twice before and on both occasions I had system instability afterwards , that why I say I must find the proper way
[11:14]  * Trixar_za shakes head
[11:14] <Kilos> lol
[11:15] <mazal> I have 2 how-to's and neither worked lekker
[11:15] <Kilos> Trixar_za  explain man
[11:15] <Trixar_za> Cybercrime is so bad because of the wetware (human element), not the security of the systems themselves. 
[11:16] <Trixar_za> Can't you use grub-update2 to update (and clean) the grub entries?
[11:17] <Kilos> my grub works so i leave it alone
[11:18] <Trixar_za> er, that should be grub2-update - lol
[11:19] <Trixar_za> I've broken mine a few times, so it's good to remember :P
[11:19] <Kilos> smile , explain man
[11:21] <inetpro> Kilos: I was not gone that long man
[11:21] <inetpro> good afternoon
[11:21] <Kilos> hi inetpro  yes you were
[11:21] <Kilos> maaz cant lie
[11:21] <Maaz> Kilos: *blink*
[11:21]  * inetpro was just quiet for that long
[11:22] <Kilos> good excuse
[11:22] <inetpro> how's yeah all doing?
[11:22] <Kilos> we working towards ubuntu membership
[11:23] <Kilos> go testify for the fly
[11:23] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/superfly
[11:23] <Kilos> we had long chats last night that you missed man
[11:25] <Kilos> and we had some fun with that gpg key thing
[11:25] <inetpro> hmm... I see
[11:25] <Kilos> mine told me after running a bit to do some other work as well to generate more bits
[11:25]  * inetpro will have to check later
[11:25] <Kilos> lol
[11:31] <Kilos> oh inetpro  how do we add stuff to the agenda now?
[11:32] <Kilos> 2 things to add in plans for 2015
[11:32] <inetpro> just edit like you edited before
[11:33] <inetpro> same system, nothing changed
[11:34] <Kilos> oh you mean add stuff next to the plans?
[11:34] <Kilos> before there was an add button man
[11:37] <Kilos> now ive forgotten what the 2 things were sigh
[11:37] <Kilos> one was membership
[11:39] <Kilos> how will noobs and list peeps add stuff to the agenda. not everyone knows about the edit thing
[11:40] <Kilos> that should be a gui function
[11:42] <smile> Kilos: grub customizer ;)
[11:42] <smile> thats a GUI tool
[11:43] <Kilos> what custromizing do you do
[11:43] <smile> I delete memtest from the list, also the advanced options get removed, and I rename some stuff to be easily readable
[11:43] <smile> And sometimes I change the order :)
[11:44] <Kilos> does memtest test everytime or only when you tick it
[11:45] <Kilos> mazal  sien jy nou
[11:45] <Kilos> ill leave well enough alone
[11:47] <mazal> Hoe nou wat nou ?
[11:48] <Kilos> lees^^
[11:48] <superfly> I updated the agenda
[11:48] <superfly> anyone else want to edit the agenda?
[11:48] <mazal> Ah ok , that's something else intirely
[11:48] <superfly> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150127
[11:49] <mazal> smile , do you have dual-boot ?
[11:50] <Kilos> ah ty superfly  there were 2 things to discuss at the meeting, i forget the other one
[12:15] <mazal> Kilos , wrote for you as well. Didn't know you are also applying , saw it on agenda now
[12:15] <mazal> I added my 2 cents
[12:16] <Kilos> ty mazal  i havent any contributions so it will be a miracle if i get it
[12:17] <mazal> Might I ask , what is ubuntu membership about ? Do you get certain perks or something ?
[12:18] <Kilos> well for one
[12:18] <Kilos> you can hook your thumbs under your armpits and say i am a member
[12:18] <Kilos> lol also you can then request stuff from the loco council
[12:19] <mazal> And the loco council is the guys above all the loco's ?
[12:19] <Kilos> you become like a part of the family
[12:19] <Kilos> ya
[12:19] <Kilos> mazal  have you signed the code of conduct?
[12:20] <Kilos> sjoe dit was n mission
[12:20] <mazal> I signed few things a while back , I think that was one of them yes
[12:20] <Kilos> im sure the monkey helped me to do it years ago but it showed me as not signed
[12:21] <Kilos> i dont know if changing pcs makes it want you to sign again
[12:22] <Kilos> did you get a gpg key?
[12:22] <mazal> No that doesn't sound familiar
[12:22] <Kilos> then you havent signed it
[12:22] <Kilos> what a jog
[12:22] <Kilos> job as well
[12:23] <Kilos> your pc generates a key
[12:24] <Kilos> http://www.wikihow.com/Sign-the-Ubuntu-Code-of-Conduct
[12:25] <Kilos> the fly had to help me
[12:26] <Kilos> not HAD to help but had to HELP
[12:26] <mazal> Shees dis omtrent 'n storie en 'n half
[12:26] <Kilos> lol
[12:35] <smile> mazal: triple boot ;)
[12:35] <smile> I have to go
[12:35] <smile> see you alter
[12:36] <smile> * later
[12:46] <Kilos> wb ThatGraemeGuy  
[12:47] <mazal> home time
[12:47] <mazal> Bye everyone , have a nice evening
[12:47] <Kilos> cheers mazal  
[12:51] <Kilos> ohi gremble  
[12:57] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[13:54] <Kilos> wb drussell  where you been man
[13:58] <drussell> Kilos: Hey! thanks. Holiday until last week, then travelling most of last week ;o) Hope you had a good Xmas/New Year?
[13:59] <Kilos> ya all good ty
[13:59] <Kilos> nice to have you back
[15:02] <charl> good afternoon
[15:02] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[15:02]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[15:06] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[15:06] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[15:06] <Maaz> charl: No problem
[15:06] <Kilos> hi charl  
[15:07] <charl> hi Kilos 
[15:07] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[15:07] <Maaz> Kilos: There isn't a pot on
[15:07] <Kilos> oi
[15:07] <charl> Maaz is rude again today
[15:07] <Kilos> hehe
[15:07] <charl> how are you Kilos ?
[15:07] <Kilos> fine ty and you lad
[15:08] <Kilos> bit older and blinder but fine
[15:08] <charl> good, good
[15:08] <charl> blinder?
[15:08] <Kilos> ya one eye is blind and other one also cant see
[15:09] <charl> ah :(
[15:09] <Kilos> hehe but kde lets me enlarge text lekker without needing tweak tools
[15:10] <charl> yeah kde is pretty flexible
[15:11] <Kilos> mazal has also converted to kde
[15:11] <Kilos> been nagging him for a year to try it, now he raves about it
[15:11] <charl> a lot of people seem to be strangely negative towards kde
[15:11] <Kilos> ya weird
[15:12] <charl> it seems like people think because it's one of the older desktop environments that it's outdated or something
[15:12] <charl> that's unfortunate because the new kde looks pretty modern actually
[15:12] <Kilos> i tried it in 9.10 i think and couldnt even connect online so gave up till12.04
[15:12] <charl> it might lack in one or two areas but then nothing is perfect in any case
[15:12] <charl> i think the earlier versions of kubuntu were not very well supported
[15:13] <charl> if i remember correctly it was a personal project of 1 guy
[15:13] <charl> after 12.04 they started inserting more resources into it and things got better
[15:13] <Kilos> the fly and pro always saying they dont have probs because they use kde convinced me to give it a fair trial and now i love it
[15:13] <charl> but i stand to be corrected as i'm not entirely sure what the story was anymore
[15:13] <charl> yeah
[15:14] <Kilos> 12.04 is super stable
[15:14] <Kilos> i mean 14.04
[15:14] <Kilos> next will be 16.04
[15:15] <charl> 14.04 is a good release all-round
[15:15] <Kilos> lot of work to customize i find
[15:15] <charl> i try to keep my desktops up to date on the latest so running 14.10 right now is best for me
[15:15] <charl> but in the server park it's mostly the LTS releases
[15:15] <charl> yeah but all desktops take a lot of work if you really want to customise them
[15:15] <charl> i try to keep most things default as far as possible
[15:15] <Kilos> if i had adsl id keep upgrading but its too much data for 3g
[15:16] <Kilos> by customize i mean to show 10 workspaces and large text and make good sounds from irc
[15:17] <Kilos> channel messages here go pling and nick said goes bloep
[15:17] <Kilos> bell.ogg
[15:17] <charl> ah
[15:17] <Kilos> hey have you signed the ubuntu code of conduct?
[15:18] <charl> i haven't signed any of ubuntu anything
[15:18] <charl> why do i need to sign a code of conduct ?
[15:18] <charl> just to use an operating system even
[15:18] <Kilos> no man dodo
[15:19] <Kilos> we are pushing to get more ubuntu members registered
[15:19] <charl> ah
[15:20] <Kilos> we only have 4 and three arent here anymore
[15:20] <charl> well i'm a user of ubuntu but so i am a user of a lot of stuff, i tend not to register for something unless absolutely necessary
[15:20] <Kilos> so the loco council suggested we get more
[15:20] <charl> what benefit is there to being a member?
[15:21] <Kilos> thats too involved to answer
[15:21] <charl> ah :) ok
[15:21] <Kilos> like why do you come to this channel
[15:21] <charl> just to hang out :P
[15:21] <charl> same reason as i am on 7+ other irc channels
[15:21] <Kilos> right because its a good place to hang out
[15:21] <charl> yup
[15:22] <Kilos> ill let you know the perks when i get them written down sometime
[15:23] <Kilos> main one is being part of the ubuntu community
[15:24] <Kilos> go see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150127
[15:24] <charl> checking
[15:24] <Kilos> testimonials are the order of the day
[15:25] <charl> ah yes
[15:25] <charl> interesting
[15:26] <charl> oh i see, you need to get testimonials written for you in order to get membership ?
[15:26] <charl> i'm not going to expect people to write testimonials for me :P
[15:26] <Kilos> i do yes because i havent contributed like other peeps do
[15:26] <charl> i just help out a bit between here and there
[15:26] <charl> ah ?
[15:27] <charl> i guess if you're contributor to the ubuntu project itself you automatically get membership
[15:27] <Kilos> no they also have to apply
[15:27] <charl> ah but then it's easy
[15:27] <Kilos> the fly even has a package in the repos
[15:27] <charl> because you simply say you've done x and y and you get membership
[15:28] <charl> that's awesome ! which package ?
[15:28] <Kilos> they can ya
[15:28] <Kilos> openlp
[15:28] <Kilos> read his page from that link
[15:28] <Kilos> he does lots
[15:28] <charl> nice !
[15:28] <charl> $ apt-cache show openlp|grep Maintainer
[15:28] <charl> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[15:28] <charl> Original-Maintainer: Raoul Snyman <raoul@snyman.info>
[15:28] <charl> that's pretty cool
[15:29] <Kilos> yeah
[15:29] <charl> if i would ever want to contribute i would do that as well, maintaining up to date packages is important
[15:30] <charl> but yeah i have so much on my plate if i start yet more projects i will end up getting sunk
[15:30] <Kilos> lol
[16:14] <Kilos> hi Tonberry_  
[16:14] <Tonberry_> hi
[16:24] <Kilos> ha bduk1  minetest time?
[16:44] <Kilos> hi octoquad  
[16:44] <octoquad> hello Kilos 
[16:44] <octoquad> :)
[16:44] <Kilos> hehe
[16:44] <Kilos> :-)
[16:44] <octoquad> so I saw something about apt-offline in the mailing list... is this to be discussed in the upcoming meeting next week?
[16:44] <Kilos> i can see them but still gotta type it
[16:45] <Kilos> yes
[16:45] <Kilos> we looked at it, lots of work
[16:45] <octoquad> really? What's the plan/blueprint for its use...
[16:46] <octoquad> reading the docs: http://apt-offline.alioth.debian.org/
[16:46] <octoquad> I see where this is going
[16:50] <octoquad> actually reading this though: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/648/Offline_Package_Management_for_APT
[16:52] <Kilos> work it out then we can discuss it more at the meet. maybe get a few more peeps to look at it
[16:53] <octoquad> well, I get the jist of it, just not sure what the plan is...I'll wait for the meeting and chime in
[16:53] <Kilos> the thing is at the meeting there isnt time to then still research something
[16:54] <Kilos> we looked at it and there were suggestions of easier ways of doing things
[16:54] <Kilos> like carrying the repos around
[16:55] <Kilos> just keeping them up to date will be a pain but then the same will apply to apt-offline i think
[17:06] <gremble> What is apt-offline?
[17:22] <Kilos> its a kinda program where you can get all updates and packages on one pc then transfer them to other pcs that havent got internet
[17:22] <Kilos> sorry i took so long, busy eating
[17:29] <Kilos> hi smile  
[17:30] <smile> hi :)
[17:30] <smile> a few moments ago chatzilla got stuck loading
[17:30] <smile> never happened before
[17:30] <smile> second try was a good one :)
[17:30] <Kilos> lol
[17:38] <gremble> I really just want to watch lecture videos, but I can't, the internet is too slow
[17:39] <gremble> :(
[17:39] <gremble> Right now it sucks to be a South Africa
[17:39] <gremble> n*
[17:39] <Kilos> ai!
[17:39] <Kilos> cant you download them then watch locally
[18:10] <gremble> I could
[18:10] <gremble> Would still take the same amount of time
[18:11] <Kilos> ya but download now for tomorrows watching
[18:11] <Kilos> cant you wget them
[18:12] <gremble> Rather just use the website portal to download them
[18:17] <Kilos> ya whatever way just plan ahead. waiting for vids that buffer all the time is maddening
[18:18] <Kilos> i had that prob wit gprs signal
[18:18] <Kilos> with
[18:18] <Kilos> evening superfly  
[18:21] <magespawn> good evening
[18:22] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[18:22] <Kilos> your turn to go sign the code of conduct
[18:22] <Kilos> hehe
[18:34] <Kilos> inetpro  i forgot that funny word you used so i just made a miscellaneous section
[18:48] <magespawn> i signed sometime ago Kilos, unless i need to resign?
[18:49] <Kilos> i think if you on another pc you need to
[18:49] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:49] <Kilos> because i see there is another gpg key there of mine but it said i hadnt signed
[18:50] <Kilos> maybe someone can enlighten me 
[18:53] <Kilos> just go see your page and it will say whether you have signed
[18:53] <Kilos> hmm... SDCDev  hopping hey
[19:01] <inetpro> Kilos: funny word?
[19:01] <inetpro> good evening
[19:01] <Kilos> evening. if i could remember it id tell you
[19:02] <Kilos> the word for other things to discuss at meetings
[19:02] <superfly> hi Kilos
[19:03] <magespawn> hi superfly inetpro 
[19:03] <superfly> hey magespawn
[19:03] <superfly> magespawn: if you haven't yet, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/superfly -- I'm applying for Ubuntu membership
[19:06] <inetpro> Kilos: best is to discuss and research apt-offline before the meeting
[19:07] <inetpro> then just report back progress at the meeting
[19:07] <Kilos> yes inetpro  i agree but it needs someone with savvy to investigate it
[19:08] <inetpro> get octoquad to help you with the research
[19:08] <Kilos> to help you man
[19:08] <Kilos> its too involved for me to understand
[19:09]  * inetpro is too tired
[19:09] <charl> good evening
[19:09] <charl> hi inetpro, superfly, Kilos, magespawn 
[19:09] <inetpro> hello charl
[19:09] <Kilos> lol
[19:09] <Kilos> hi charl  
[19:10] <Kilos> inetpro  are you writing testimonials?
[19:11] <inetpro> superfly: what is your due date?
[19:14] <magespawn> hi charl 
[19:14] <magespawn> cool superfly, i'l check it out
[19:18] <inetpro> superfly: hmm... that graeme guy forgot to post the three words on the wiki
[19:19] <superfly> inetpro: we'll have to remind him tomorrow
[19:19] <superfly> inetpro: my due date? I'm not pregnant...?
[19:19] <inetpro> lmga
[19:19] <inetpro> you know what I mean
[19:19] <magespawn> lol
[19:19] <Kilos> lol
[19:20] <Kilos> twits
[19:20] <magespawn> another one superfly? putting the super in fly
[19:20] <magespawn> brb
[19:20] <magespawn> \/exit
[19:20] <inetpro> superfly: what's the next step after testimonials?
[19:20] <Kilos> application to the loco
[19:21] <inetpro> have you applied yet?
[19:21] <Kilos> after meeting
[19:21] <superfly> No. You have to add your name to the list.
[19:21] <Kilos> first we fishing for 3 words
[19:21] <superfly> "The next 22:00 UTC meeting will be at Thursday, February 5th, 2014 at 22:00:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net."
[19:21] <superfly> "The next 12:00 UTC meeting will be at Wednesday, January 21st, 2014 at 12:00:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net."
[19:22] <inetpro> what council is this?
[19:22] <superfly> I can't do 12:00 UTC, I'm going to have to go for the 22:00 UTC
[19:22] <superfly> The Ubuntu membership council
[19:22] <inetpro> ah
[19:23] <superfly> inetpro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember#Preparing_your_Application
[19:25] <inetpro> hmm... 12:00 UTC = 14:00 SAST ?
[19:25] <superfly> yes
[19:26] <superfly> Oh wow, Kilos, you got a recommendation from drubin!
[19:26] <Kilos> oh my
[19:26] <Kilos> where did you see that
[19:26] <Kilos> how does he know
[19:26] <inetpro> yikes and 22:00 UTC is midnight
[19:27] <inetpro> nice writeup by drubin as well
[19:27] <Kilos> where do you see this??
[19:28] <inetpro> Kilos: on your page man
[19:28] <Kilos> oh my
[19:28] <Kilos> how does he know
[19:29] <inetpro> Kilos: go to your page and click subscribe 
[19:29] <inetpro> then you get an email every time someone edits it
[19:29] <inetpro> the wiki is just superslow today
[19:30] <Kilos> oh wow
[19:31] <magespawn> superfly, you want new comments above or below the note about the sig command?
[19:31] <Kilos> sig at end
[19:31] <superfly> magespawn: above
[19:32] <Kilos> inetpro  where is drubin and how would he even know i want to apply
[19:32] <Kilos> and how do i thank him
[19:33] <inetpro> Kilos: he knows it all
[19:33] <Kilos> how
[19:34] <inetpro> he's still on the mailing list
[19:34] <inetpro> I guess
[19:35] <Kilos> haha now you know why i need so much help
[19:35] <Kilos> my AI is getting worn
[19:35] <octoquad> inetpro, Kilos, Re: apt-offline, let me know what the plan is around this and I'll look into it
[19:35] <inetpro> Kilos: send him a message to drubin (-AT-) ubuntu (-DOT-) com 
[19:36] <Kilos> now im lost
[19:36] <superfly> Kilos: apt-offline is really easy, but I'll explain on the mailing list.
[19:36] <Kilos> octoquad  see if you can figure it all out then we can discuss it here before the meeting
[19:37] <Kilos> ah ty superfly  
[19:37] <inetpro> Kilos: he said mailing list
[19:37] <Kilos> who?
[19:37] <inetpro> superfly: you think it would be worth it?
[19:38] <Kilos> inetpro  ping
[19:38] <inetpro> Kilos: pong
[19:38] <Kilos> what do i do with that command
[19:38] <Kilos> hehe\
[19:38] <Kilos> send him a message how
[19:38] <inetpro> ai!
[19:38] <superfly> magespawn: no pregnancy, inetpro was asking which review session I'm choosing for my Ubuntu membership application
[19:39] <inetpro> Kilos: (-AT-) = @
[19:39] <Kilos> oh
[19:39] <inetpro> Kilos:  (-DOT-) = .
[19:39] <Kilos> lol
[19:39] <Kilos> why dont you say so man or pm me
[19:41] <inetpro> Kilos: it's on his public page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/drubin
[19:43] <inetpro> that is how you put email addresses on a web page to prevent email address harvesting
[19:47] <Kilos> aha
[19:47] <Kilos> i tried to save hgis addy in evo the normal way. and it made that funny thing and crashed evo
[19:47] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:49] <magespawn> good night all, bed time for me
[19:49] <Kilos> night magespawn  
[19:49] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:50] <Kilos> An application has crashed on your system (now or in the past)
[19:51] <Kilos> sigh
[19:59] <Kilos> oh my. reading other peeps pages makes me skaam
[20:14] <smile> night
[20:28] <Kilos> night guys. sleep tight
[20:34] <Kilos> Maaz  hi
[20:34]  * Maaz waves to Kilos
[20:35] <Kilos> superfly  ty for the apt-offline info
[20:35] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:35] <superfly> yw