[05:18] morning guys [05:32] 7:32AM up 2334 days, 21:51, 2 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 [05:32] ! [05:37] hi nlsthzn bduk [05:37] more almal [05:38] good morning all.. [05:51] hi mazal [05:51] More oom [06:14] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:14] 'lo [06:37] o/ mornings [06:37] oh hi bduk, nlsthzn, oom Kilos, mazal, Symmetria [06:37] nice uptime! [06:37] lo nuvolari [06:37] jy moet meer tyd hier spandeer man [06:37] ek is mos nou hier oom :P [06:38] veral in die aande [06:38] en [06:38] en [06:38] ons is verby die helfde van die maand. friggin ruthless 2015 [06:38] jy moet saam met ons aansoek doen vir ubuntu membership [06:38] wat behels dit oom Kilos? [06:38] sjoe [06:38] ek is nie aktief genoeg in die gemeenskap nie :-/ [06:39] jy sal wees [06:39] na ons reverification het daar n pos gekom wat se ons moet meer doen [06:39] hehe [06:40] sien jy daai pos van gert op die 7de [06:40] en jy stoel op die 27de ne [06:42] morning superfly [06:42] morning Kilos [06:42] I'm just talking about you... [06:42] uh oh [06:42] morning nuvolari, ThatGraemeGuy, mazal, bduk, nlsthzn [06:42] i didnt do it [06:42] hi fly [06:43] I'm applying for Ubuntu membership, so if anyone wants to write 3 words on how awful I am, here's the place to do it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/superfly [06:44] "That guy? Ugh!" [06:44] 3 words, done! [06:44] perfect! [06:45] lol [06:46] oh hi superfly! [06:46] oom Kilos, het oom vir my 'n email subject? samblief [06:47] nuvolari Follow up from LOCO Ubuntu ZA re-verification [06:48] superfly one must do it in edit mode right? [06:48] i dont wanna mess up [06:50] Kilos: yes. I'll make a little template quickly [06:50] cool [06:53] im trying to add stuff to the agenda as well but the add button is no longer there so it looks like that is also edit mode [06:57] inetpro wake up sleepy head [07:00] I have no mail with that subject :-/ [07:02] nuvolari i posted it last night on slexy, hold on ill do it again [07:03] nuvolari http://slexy.org/view/s21RPzEuzC [07:03] slexy is lekker fast today [07:07] ill reply to him as well so you should get it in new mails now now [07:11] nuvolari i missed the start sorry [07:11] [ubuntu-za] Follow up from LOCO Ubuntu ZA re-verification [07:13] i go sort sheep out [07:30] Morning everyone [07:42] superfly, how do I add testimonial for you ? I don't see a button for it ? [08:02] mazal you have to edit the page [08:02] i just added mine [08:02] Oom Kilos , I don't see the edit button anywhere , where is it located on the page ? [08:03] top left under the ubuntu wiki logo [08:03] are you on ubuntu? [08:03] mazal: does it say immutable page? [08:04] ty ThatGraemeGuy [08:07] Found it thanx ThatGraemeGuy [08:08] I kept looking at the bottom where testimonials are :P [08:09] lol [08:10] btw ook Kilos , I'm so in love with Kubuntu I am considering putting it on my home pc as well ;) [08:10] lekker man [08:10] Maar dis groot werk ai [08:10] ja jy moet tyd spandeer om als te leer doen [08:11] but once you understand most of it there is nothing to compare imo [08:12] problem is , I'm gonna have to put in a new pc and re-arrange my whole living room for that [08:12] That's the work I'm talking about [08:12] just rsync your /home folder to a stick or something then it makes a new install easier [08:12] hahaha [08:13] Main machine there has Win 7 on ( for gaming ) so can't change that. BUT , I have a server with Ubuntu on it. So considering to changing my server to my main pc with K on it. [08:13] But then I have a problem with server [08:14] * nlsthzn is back from the shops [08:14] oh hi superfly [08:14] you could just install kubuntu-desktop but im not sure what will be left out [08:15] Noo that was a fail [08:15] I tried that on my work pc [08:15] VERY unstable [08:15] oh my [08:15] That's why I formatted it and installed just Kubuntu [08:15] aha [08:15] Ya I couldn't even get k3b to work [08:16] ya i think clean installs are better [08:16] eish [08:16] Too many desktops on the same install doesn't seem like a good idea [08:16] i even have k3b on unity [08:17] So at home , I will have to add some server stuff to the K install and hope it runs ok , I needs my server , too many things that runs to it [08:17] ah then you can just install the server stuff afterwards [08:18] Yeah , just hope it stays stable [08:18] you need a bad drive to make kde unstable i think [08:18] It has never been an issue with unity , but haven't done it in K yet. But I don't think it will be an issue [08:20] I'm wish I never went to PC gaming. Was a big mistake that. That forces Win onto me. But I have so many games for it now , can't let all that money go to waste [08:20] Should have stayed on console with my pc's only ubuntu like it was [08:21] lol [08:21] get an xbox or playstaion [08:21] station [08:22] I have for many years then little more than a year ago changed that [08:24] So now I first have some logistical problems to sort out and then will move to K there [08:24] ok [08:24] Must re-arrange the living room lol [08:24] have they found a way to add ram to playstations [08:24] haha [08:25] nope [08:25] i looked at maybe getting an old one and use it as a pc [08:25] But I must say , I have huge respect for that PS3 hey. Mine has been going for 7 years now. Still going like a boing and still manages to play todays games. Last year still saw new releases [08:25] imo its just ram that they run low on [08:25] That's a proper piece of hardware [08:26] wow [08:26] And tough as nails. Doesn't break. Only weakness is the BD drive. That eventually breaks down [08:26] BD drive? [08:27] Blue ray drive [08:27] ah [08:27] I dunno if the new PS4 is that strong , time will tell [08:31] maybe one day ill get one and see how it does as a desktop pc [08:33] i looked at some of the modern games my boet has on his lappy. they are too fast for me to even think of playing [08:33] so i play freecell and mahjong [08:35] The current era in gaming is very bad actually [08:36] Most games release totally broken with massive day one patches [08:36] Many games are online only [08:36] And almost all of them release only 60 to 70% and rest you must by with DLC [08:36] These days they say what is going to be DLC even before the main game release [08:38] So at the end of the day , you paid for two games to get 1 full game and have to do insanely big updates to fix the game as well [08:40] eish [08:41] Kilos, mazal: you need to add the "@SIG@" at the end of your testimonials [08:41] k [08:41] oh ok lemme try that [08:42] Done [08:43] oh my [08:45] die engelse is slim ne [09:38] hi smile [09:38] hi Kilos :) [09:43] amazon is slow :p [09:45] its because they got old peeps working there [09:46] hire a teenager while they know everything [09:48] I ordered on friday evenin :P [09:48] * evening [09:48] so that means delivery on wednesday [09:48] or thursday [09:49] ordered what? [09:56] ssd ;) [09:56] samsung evo 850 [09:56] http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-MZ-75E500B-EU-interne-silber/dp/B00P73B1E4/?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1421421337&sr=1-2&keywords=samsung+850+evo [09:57] or English if you prefer: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E500B-AM/dp/B00OBRE5UE/?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421339445&sr=1-1&keywords=Samsung+850+EVO+500GB+2.5-Inch+SATA+III+Internal+SSD+%28MZ-75E500B%2FAM%29&tag=lifehackeramzn-20&ascsubtag=%5Br|theoldreader.com%5Bt|link%5Bp|1679714645%5Ba|B00OBRE5UE%5Bau|5727177402741770316 [09:57] wow thats great, be patient [09:57] expensive hey [09:58] where is your link shortening tool [09:58] Maaz shorten http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E500B-AM/dp/B00OBRE5UE/?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1421339445&sr=1-1&keywords=Samsung+850+EVO+500GB+2.5-Inch+SATA+III+Internal+SSD+%28MZ-75E500B%2FAM%29&tag=lifehackeramzn-20&ascsubtag=%5Br|theoldreader.com%5Bt|link%5Bp|1679714645%5Ba|B00OBRE5UE%5Bau|5727177402741770316 [09:58] Kilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/7JM8Q5 [09:58] use the bot in pm mode [09:59] sorry, Kilos ;) [09:59] Kilos: yeah, pretty expensive stuff ;) [09:59] also pretty good stuff :D [10:00] a new year's present from my parents :) [10:00] lovely [10:02] indeed :) [10:03] now downloading 600 megabyte :P [10:03] oh, 700 xD [10:03] new graphics stack, new init system and new browsers :P [10:04] sjoe [10:05] spoiled [10:06] oh yeah, new virtualbox too :P [10:06] and wine :p [10:06] whew [10:06] I'm not sure my system will boot in a few moments :D [10:06] haha [10:08] Kilos: was it you who advised me to make money on the internet instead of working for free on Wikipedia? :P [10:09] ya lol [10:09] I'm on http://clixsense.com now ;) [10:09] I earned 30 dollars already :) [10:09] cool [10:09] they pay via paypal, no fees :) [10:10] nice [10:10] yeah. I used adsclickcash.com too, but they are evil [10:11] the fee is 1/2 of the amount they pay you [10:11] ai! [10:11] you need to be a member for at least 30 days [10:11] and you can only ask for 1 dollar at a time [10:11] and you need to wait 45 days for your next payment [10:11] wow that sucks [10:12] have they got any suckers working for them even? [10:12] yeah. So I'm just getting my money away from that site into paypal every 45 days and I won't invest my time there any longer ;) [10:12] lol, Kilos :p clixsense is more popular :) [10:13] Kilos: they have paid about 1000 dollars [10:13] peeps that use others badly shouldnt even be supported [10:13] that means only 1000 payments [10:13] on adsclickcash [10:13] on clixsense: We've paid our 4,385,875 members $9,827,282.92 on time, every time! [10:13] :) [10:14] cool [10:14] support those kinds of people [10:14] yeah :D [10:19] I like pacman ;) it's the package management system of Arch Linux [10:19] you can run pacman multiple times :) that makes the best use of your bandwidth and cpu power [10:34] rebooting :) [10:47] hmm... [10:47] whew i thought you broke it [10:48] hi :) [10:48] my computer is still booting ;) [10:48] yay [10:49] No, I had to reboot a few times to clean up my GRUB menu [10:49] :) [10:54] Maaz seen inetpro [10:54] Kilos: inetpro was last seen 21 hours, 4 minutes and 23 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-01-18 05:50:00 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2015-01-18 03:47:28 PST [10:54] sjoe [10:57] * mazal must still find the proper way of cleaning up grub [11:09] what is there to clean up? [11:10] smile what do you do to clean up grub [11:12] Remove the old kernels [11:13] if it aint broke dont fix it [11:13] Well that's mostly what is being done [11:13] dpesnt apt-get autoclean do that [11:13] I dunno [11:13] or apt-get clean [11:14] I tried it twice before and on both occasions I had system instability afterwards , that why I say I must find the proper way [11:14] * Trixar_za shakes head [11:14] lol [11:15] I have 2 how-to's and neither worked lekker [11:15] Trixar_za explain man [11:15] Cybercrime is so bad because of the wetware (human element), not the security of the systems themselves. [11:16] Can't you use grub-update2 to update (and clean) the grub entries? [11:17] my grub works so i leave it alone [11:18] er, that should be grub2-update - lol [11:19] I've broken mine a few times, so it's good to remember :P [11:19] smile , explain man [11:21] Kilos: I was not gone that long man [11:21] good afternoon [11:21] hi inetpro yes you were [11:21] maaz cant lie [11:21] Kilos: *blink* [11:21] * inetpro was just quiet for that long [11:22] good excuse [11:22] how's yeah all doing? [11:22] we working towards ubuntu membership [11:23] go testify for the fly [11:23] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/superfly [11:23] we had long chats last night that you missed man [11:25] and we had some fun with that gpg key thing [11:25] hmm... I see [11:25] mine told me after running a bit to do some other work as well to generate more bits [11:25] * inetpro will have to check later [11:25] lol [11:31] oh inetpro how do we add stuff to the agenda now? [11:32] 2 things to add in plans for 2015 [11:32] just edit like you edited before [11:33] same system, nothing changed [11:34] oh you mean add stuff next to the plans? [11:34] before there was an add button man [11:37] now ive forgotten what the 2 things were sigh [11:37] one was membership [11:39] how will noobs and list peeps add stuff to the agenda. not everyone knows about the edit thing [11:40] that should be a gui function [11:42] Kilos: grub customizer ;) [11:42] thats a GUI tool [11:43] what custromizing do you do [11:43] I delete memtest from the list, also the advanced options get removed, and I rename some stuff to be easily readable [11:43] And sometimes I change the order :) [11:44] does memtest test everytime or only when you tick it [11:45] mazal sien jy nou [11:45] ill leave well enough alone [11:47] Hoe nou wat nou ? [11:48] lees^^ [11:48] I updated the agenda [11:48] anyone else want to edit the agenda? [11:48] Ah ok , that's something else intirely [11:48] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150127 [11:49] smile , do you have dual-boot ? [11:50] ah ty superfly there were 2 things to discuss at the meeting, i forget the other one [12:15] Kilos , wrote for you as well. Didn't know you are also applying , saw it on agenda now [12:15] I added my 2 cents [12:16] ty mazal i havent any contributions so it will be a miracle if i get it [12:17] Might I ask , what is ubuntu membership about ? Do you get certain perks or something ? [12:18] well for one [12:18] you can hook your thumbs under your armpits and say i am a member [12:18] lol also you can then request stuff from the loco council [12:19] And the loco council is the guys above all the loco's ? [12:19] you become like a part of the family [12:19] ya [12:19] mazal have you signed the code of conduct? [12:20] sjoe dit was n mission [12:20] I signed few things a while back , I think that was one of them yes [12:20] im sure the monkey helped me to do it years ago but it showed me as not signed [12:21] i dont know if changing pcs makes it want you to sign again [12:22] did you get a gpg key? [12:22] No that doesn't sound familiar [12:22] then you havent signed it [12:22] what a jog [12:22] job as well [12:23] your pc generates a key [12:24] http://www.wikihow.com/Sign-the-Ubuntu-Code-of-Conduct [12:25] the fly had to help me [12:26] not HAD to help but had to HELP [12:26] Shees dis omtrent 'n storie en 'n half [12:26] lol [12:35] mazal: triple boot ;) [12:35] I have to go [12:35] see you alter [12:36] * later [12:46] wb ThatGraemeGuy [12:47] home time [12:47] Bye everyone , have a nice evening [12:47] cheers mazal [12:51] ohi gremble [12:57] Hey Kilos [13:54] wb drussell where you been man [13:58] Kilos: Hey! thanks. Holiday until last week, then travelling most of last week ;o) Hope you had a good Xmas/New Year? [13:59] ya all good ty [13:59] nice to have you back [15:02] good afternoon [15:02] Maaz: coffee on [15:02] * Maaz puts the kettle on [15:06] Coffee's ready for charl! [15:06] Maaz: thanks [15:06] charl: No problem [15:06] hi charl [15:07] hi Kilos [15:07] Maaz coffee please [15:07] Kilos: There isn't a pot on [15:07] oi [15:07] Maaz is rude again today [15:07] hehe [15:07] how are you Kilos ? [15:07] fine ty and you lad [15:08] bit older and blinder but fine [15:08] good, good [15:08] blinder? [15:08] ya one eye is blind and other one also cant see [15:09] ah :( [15:09] hehe but kde lets me enlarge text lekker without needing tweak tools [15:10] yeah kde is pretty flexible [15:11] mazal has also converted to kde [15:11] been nagging him for a year to try it, now he raves about it [15:11] a lot of people seem to be strangely negative towards kde [15:11] ya weird [15:12] it seems like people think because it's one of the older desktop environments that it's outdated or something [15:12] that's unfortunate because the new kde looks pretty modern actually [15:12] i tried it in 9.10 i think and couldnt even connect online so gave up till12.04 [15:12] it might lack in one or two areas but then nothing is perfect in any case [15:12] i think the earlier versions of kubuntu were not very well supported [15:13] if i remember correctly it was a personal project of 1 guy [15:13] after 12.04 they started inserting more resources into it and things got better [15:13] the fly and pro always saying they dont have probs because they use kde convinced me to give it a fair trial and now i love it [15:13] but i stand to be corrected as i'm not entirely sure what the story was anymore [15:13] yeah [15:14] 12.04 is super stable [15:14] i mean 14.04 [15:14] next will be 16.04 [15:15] 14.04 is a good release all-round [15:15] lot of work to customize i find [15:15] i try to keep my desktops up to date on the latest so running 14.10 right now is best for me [15:15] but in the server park it's mostly the LTS releases [15:15] yeah but all desktops take a lot of work if you really want to customise them [15:15] i try to keep most things default as far as possible [15:15] if i had adsl id keep upgrading but its too much data for 3g [15:16] by customize i mean to show 10 workspaces and large text and make good sounds from irc [15:17] channel messages here go pling and nick said goes bloep [15:17] bell.ogg [15:17] ah [15:17] hey have you signed the ubuntu code of conduct? [15:18] i haven't signed any of ubuntu anything [15:18] why do i need to sign a code of conduct ? [15:18] just to use an operating system even [15:18] no man dodo [15:19] we are pushing to get more ubuntu members registered [15:19] ah [15:20] we only have 4 and three arent here anymore [15:20] well i'm a user of ubuntu but so i am a user of a lot of stuff, i tend not to register for something unless absolutely necessary [15:20] so the loco council suggested we get more [15:20] what benefit is there to being a member? [15:21] thats too involved to answer [15:21] ah :) ok [15:21] like why do you come to this channel [15:21] just to hang out :P [15:21] same reason as i am on 7+ other irc channels [15:21] right because its a good place to hang out [15:21] yup [15:22] ill let you know the perks when i get them written down sometime [15:23] main one is being part of the ubuntu community [15:24] go see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150127 [15:24] checking [15:24] testimonials are the order of the day [15:25] ah yes [15:25] interesting [15:26] oh i see, you need to get testimonials written for you in order to get membership ? [15:26] i'm not going to expect people to write testimonials for me :P [15:26] i do yes because i havent contributed like other peeps do [15:26] i just help out a bit between here and there [15:26] ah ? [15:27] i guess if you're contributor to the ubuntu project itself you automatically get membership [15:27] no they also have to apply [15:27] ah but then it's easy [15:27] the fly even has a package in the repos [15:27] because you simply say you've done x and y and you get membership [15:28] that's awesome ! which package ? [15:28] they can ya [15:28] openlp [15:28] read his page from that link [15:28] he does lots [15:28]