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valoriebah, got no reply so I'll sit tight00:48
valoriemy night to visit my dad anyway.....00:48
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soeegood morning07:14
soeeRiddell: upgrade to 5.2beta on Utopic was smooth, all seems to work as expected07:16
soeeRiddell: the only think i noticed:  kate : Depends: kate5-data (>= 4:14.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1) but it is not installed07:26
sitterbreeze-qt4's rules look a bit wrong08:19
sitterinclude /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/debian-qt-kde.mk08:19
sitteroverride_dh_auto_configure:08:19
sitter    $(overridden_command) -- -DUSE_KDE4=true08:19
soeeany chance to have the yakuake fixed ? its a bit hard to use terminal without yakuake :D08:27
lordievaderGood morning.08:52
soeehi lordievader08:53
lordievaderHey soee, how are you?08:53
soeelordievader: im fine, working hard :) thanks. You ?08:53
soeeim happy having plasma 5.2 beta here on Utopic @work08:54
valoriesoee: yakuake isn't working for you?08:54
lordievaderDoing good here, coffee is in the making.08:55
lordievader:)08:55
soeevalorie: it was broken a bit after yesterdays updates, some ppl reported it08:55
valoriehmmm, works here08:55
soeevalorie: Plasma 5.2 beta ? vivid ?08:55
valorienope, haven't jumped to vivid yet08:56
soeethats why its working for you :)08:56
valorie:-)08:56
lordievadersoee: How do I see which version of Plasma I have?08:56
valoriethen it's good I waited08:56
valoriemust have yakuake08:56
soeelordievader: System Settings - About08:57
soeevalorie: yup, have to use terminal standalone now :)08:57
valoriehow sad!08:57
lordievader5.2.90 with KF5.7.0 here.08:57
soeewell i could use yakuake but it has white backgorund now :/ not keyboard navigation work and other inputs 08:58
soeelordievader: you are on kubnut-ci or something ?08:58
lordievaderKubuntu-ci unstable, yes. And updating lots of packages right now.08:59
soeelhats why you have the latest :)09:01
soeei prefere teh archive version from vivid, more stable ;)09:02
lordievaderThis is a test laptop, it can break all it wants :P09:02
soeeoh so you are lucky, i have no such machine i can break :)09:03
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lordievaderVM's can be broken too ;)09:04
yofelsoee: I put an updated konsole4 into ninjas for vivid that fixes yakuake partly09:11
Riddellthanks yofel 09:12
Riddellyofel: why ninjas, can't it be uploaded?09:12
yofelRiddell: sure it can, but konsole4 is not in our packageset so not by me09:12
yofelit's in bzr09:12
Riddellok I'll take a look09:13
soeeyofel: i can tets but later at home, now im on Utopic here ate work09:14
soeethe overal performance with 5.2beta is much better for me on Utopic09:15
yofelyeah, it's gotten a lot better. Sadly monitor attach/detach is still pretty messy :/09:16
soeehmm, in system monitor i have bluetoothd runnig as root and it is only one process owned by root - is it normal09:37
soee?09:38
soeewell not only one but highlighted 09:38
Riddellfooey, no cd today   kde-config-touchpad : Breaks: kde-touchpad (< 5.1.95~) but 0.0+git20140305-0ubuntu1 is to be installed09:45
Riddellroot       413     1  0 ene19 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/bluetoothd09:45
Riddellsoee: seems right ↑09:45
soeeRiddell: thank you09:47
soeeterminal crashes almost each time i try to use TAB to autocomplete09:48
Riddellsoee: even with yofel'd new konsole4 package?09:53
Riddellsoee: on vivid?09:53
Riddellsoee: yakuake or konsole?09:53
soeeRiddell: konsole on utopic + Plasma 5.2 beta09:54
Riddellwell that's weird09:55
RiddellI don't see that09:55
sitterhttps://gist.github.com/apachelogger/79bd0ab11fbc1932f8ac10:22
Riddellsitter: what's that?10:23
sitterless shit wrapper around this http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html10:24
sitternamely it only needs a --version VERSION and a --input SOFILE and it will try to figure out all the other nonsense on its own10:24
Riddellsitter: ooh yay!10:25
sitterPackage: libkf5sysguard5-data10:25
QuintasanCan we have that in kubuntu-dev-tools?10:25
sittershould I keep that version?10:25
sitterQuintasan: commit it?10:25
sitterI think it should go to pkg-kde-tools though10:25
Riddellsitter: why wouldn't you keep libkf5sysguard5-data?10:26
sitterRiddell: because it got sobumped and having to also bump the data package name seems like an unnecessary bother10:27
sitterit's not versioned, so there can only ever be one of this data package anyway10:27
Riddellprobably10:27
Riddelldump the 5 then if that makes it easier10:28
sittermh, actually that makes it more complicated because a  long standing issue with CI versions ^^10:30
sitterthat package naming is all weird10:37
sitterSource: libksysguard   -> Package: libkf5sysguard-dev -> Package: libkf5sysguard5 -> Package: libksysguard5-dbg10:37
sitterI think that covers all available options available for naming ^^10:37
* sitter rolls a dice on what to do with that10:37
Riddellsitter: did you get anywhere with qapt3/muon packages or shall I look into that?10:46
sitternot yet10:46
sittertoday10:46
sitterin fact after ksysguard10:46
sittershadeslayer: yofel: Riddell: libksysguard unstable could use a review10:53
soeeon Utopic yakuake shows: Yakuake cant read Konsole component. Konsole installation is required, to be able to use Yakuake.10:54
Riddellyofel: konsole4 uploaded to vivid!11:07
Riddellsoee: I guess that needs backported to fix what you're seeing in utopic11:07
Riddellsoee: uploaded it to utopic too konsole4_4.14.3-0ubuntu2~ubuntu14.10~ppa111:09
soeeRiddell: what about the kate issue ?11:11
yofelRiddell: thanks11:12
yofelsoee: is konsole4-kpart even installed?11:12
soeeyofel: what is it? i see no such package11:13
yofelah, then konsole4 never got backported. Should be built soon ^^11:13
soeeRiddell: can i disable next-staging now in Utopic ?11:22
Riddellsoee: you can do as you wish, the packages haven't moved out of next-staging yet however so you'd not get any fixes/updates11:22
soeeRiddell: what about the koncole stuff and yakuake ?11:23
soee*konsole11:23
soeeand the unmet dep:  kate : Depends: kate5-data (>= 4:14.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1) but it is not installed11:24
soeeoh well -f shuld help i think11:25
soeeerp nope11:25
soeetrying to overwrite "/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/kate.png", and it exists also in package kate-data 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa111:26
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BluesKajHiyas all12:12
soeeany idea why chrome/chromium ofen stops to repond on clicks etc. the window has to be resized to get it usable again12:19
Riddellsoee: hmm I guess I need to do some more testing for those12:20
Riddellchromium has problems if you have ibus running12:20
Riddellthat's keyboard though not mouse12:20
soeei have this probelm here at work only, not on my laptop at home12:21
soeewrr, terminal crashes and crashes12:31
soeehmm the all packages after upgrade were not configured beacuse of kate problem12:41
soeei have removed kate now and they are being configured12:41
soeeand it stucked ad configuring new /etc/init/bluetooth.conf ...12:44
soeestoped, did configure again and now it stops at bluez (5.23-1ubuntu1~mtrudel1) ...12:48
soeeimpossible to fix it13:05
soeeimpossible to fix it13:06
soeesorry, not this window13:06
soeeok had to diable bluetooth not it passed13:10
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_Groo_soee: intel? radeon? nvidia?13:27
_Groo_soee: do you have gpu hw enabled? check with chrome://gpu13:27
_Groo_you will need a fairly recent open source driver for chrome13:28
_Groo_just today intel fixed some gpu crashes related to chrome and glmark213:28
_Groo_its in my ppa13:28
soee_Groo_: im on nvidia propriety13:29
_Groo_which chrome version?13:29
_Groo_and is gpu active?13:29
soeeChrome/39.0.2171.6513:29
_Groo_yeah its old13:30
_Groo_try chrome unstable 41.x13:30
_Groo_i use it daily 13:30
_Groo_much better with the gpu acceleration13:30
soeeim using chromium here13:30
_Groo_what about chrome://gpu?13:30
_Groo_what does it say?13:30
soeea lot of stuff reports13:30
_Groo_first lines, are they green?13:30
_Groo_graphics features status13:31
soee_Groo_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9794363/13:31
_Groo_try disabling hw accel in chrome://flags13:32
_Groo_it will be slower but more stable13:32
_Groo_or upgrade to a more modern chrome13:32
sitterwgrant: can it happen that an ftp dput gets lost along the way? as of maybe a week ago I am seeing at least on upload per day where dput comes back without error but it never arrives in launchpad (i.e. also no accept/reject email from launchpad)13:39
sitterkde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:4.1213:50
sitterwhy is that not applications13:50
sitterand what is it good for (I totally forgot)13:50
shadeslayersitter: I don't think we use that anymore 14:02
sitterI do not know, it makes kanagram fail stable integration tho because that thing is not integrated14:05
sitteron that note we needs native package integration capability -.-14:05
shadeslayernative integration ?14:05
sitternative packages14:06
sittershadeslayer: aren't u in london?14:06
shadeslayeryes14:06
sittershadeslayer: you needs to merge frameworks branch of kubuntu-driver-manager and do release14:06
shadeslayermerge to master right>14:06
shadeslayerah native packages14:06
shadeslayerMy CI can do that :?14:07
shadeslayer:>14:07
sitterhow can it?14:07
shadeslayerIt takes sources, debian packaging, mashes them together and builds it14:08
sittershadeslayer: there is no debian packaging14:08
sitterthere is only one source14:08
shadeslayerahh 14:08
shadeslayerjust specify it twice then14:08
shadeslayerpft14:08
sitterlol14:08
shadeslayersrc = debian packaging = git repo14:08
sitterlike there isn't enough hacks already14:09
shadeslayerdoesn't really matter to my packaging14:09
shadeslayerpft hater14:10
_Groo_apparently kwin finally fixed the shadows artifacts in plasma... oh wait, i talked to soon :P14:11
shadeslayersitter: ahhh, my old tooling had it14:12
shadeslayerbut I haven't implemented it yet 14:12
shadeslayerin my new stuff14:12
mgraesslin_Groo_: please report bugs if you see artifacts, otherwise it will never get fixed14:13
sittershadeslayer: how would that even work, needs provisioning in projects14:14
sitterhell, projects has too much responsibility :@14:14
shadeslayerit read debian/source/format14:14
shadeslayeroh14:15
sitterwell yeah, except with the divide between project construction and job creation you need to get that information in a project and then have the jobs behave accordingly (latter with my refactor ought to be pretty opaquely contained within some buildjob though, so there's an improvement)14:16
sitterprojects.rb still does too much crap14:16
shadeslayerI started reading your new stuff last night ...14:19
shadeslayerseems interesting14:20
_Groo_nice, ksysguard is fixed, not could someone fix kio-mtp (kde 4.x), so it doesnt try to remove kde-extras-*14:59
Riddell_Groo_: in utopic or vivid?14:59
_Groo_utopic15:00
_Groo_ci15:00
_Groo_https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4MkSzBYK15:00
shadeslayersitter: is plasma-nm failing for you ?15:29
BluesKajshadeslayer, plasma 5 nm wifi  auto-connect isn't working here. However manual connect with nm wifi does work15:33
shadeslayerno, I meant as in the build :p15:34
shadeslayeralso, autoconnect wfm15:35
Riddellsitter: muon uploaded!15:39
shadeslayerRiddell: are you handling the A2 management?15:42
Riddellnope15:42
shadeslayerbecause no one stepped up for it AFAICT15:42
Riddellwhich means it may well not happen15:42
shadeslayerno A2 then?15:42
shadeslayerI think Kubuntu should do one15:42
shadeslayerwhich means I'll have to volunteer15:43
shadeslayeror sitter15:43
Riddellbut ubiquity didn't work yesterday with an unknown error in ubi-console so it may not be trivial15:43
shadeslayermakes it even more important :S15:43
Riddellso first task would be to check if these images I just had make installs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20150120.1/15:43
Riddellbut I'm kindae in muon mode just now15:44
shadeslayerdidn't realize you had a muon mode15:44
* shadeslayer is in dci mode15:45
Riddellaren't you on holiday? or are you just in a not-office mode?15:46
shadeslayernot on a holiday15:47
shadeslayerThough I won't be around this Thu/Fri probably15:47
sitterwhat's an A2?15:48
shadeslayerAlpha 215:48
sitterI am not reliable enough to do release coordination15:48
yofelhe ran away15:50
shadeslayeroh crap15:52
shadeslayerit might be too late15:52
shadeslayerA2 is on 22nd15:52
shadeslayerAnd I'm not around :/15:52
sitterpft, I sure don't have time then15:53
shadeslayersitter: http://dci.pangea.pub/job/plasma/job/plasma-nm_binary_unstable/9/console15:55
sitterwfm15:57
shadeslayer:(15:57
Riddellsitter: apol asks if muon tests fail in kci jenkins, is that set up?16:03
sitterits disabled16:03
sitterthere is at least one test that definitely doesn't pass in build environments16:03
sitterand reviewstest does sound like a hot contender for that16:04
sitteractually16:04
Riddellright but jenkins isn't a build environment16:04
sitterRiddell: your bug definitely is because of build env ... you can't access webs from a build16:04
sitterRiddell: sure it is, jenkins is just a management frontend to lunchpad16:04
Riddelloh16:05
* sitter wonders why libkubuntu tests want xcb16:05
sitteroh they would probably load qtgui which might want xcb16:06
cyphermoxanyone else on vivid sees quassel just disappear everyonce in a while for no apparent reason? I don't have crash reports or anything, the window just goes away16:22
mparilloI have successfully used the upgrade tool to upgrade Utopic to Vivid. In the upgrade doc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu There is a large section on what to do with the extras. 16:23
Riddellmparillo: hah, great thanks16:26
Riddellmparillo: although is it not easier to use software-properties?16:26
Riddellmparillo: and to do it before running the upgrade tool?16:26
mparilloHmm, I did not know about software properties. Is that an option on muon-upgrade?16:28
Riddellmparillo: yeah in muon-updater click More -> advanced -> configure software sources16:30
mparilloI do not see extras there. Maybe it is named something else. On the first tab, I see Main, Restricted, Universe, and Multiverse. On the second tab I see Independent and Canonical Partners.16:34
* Riddell uploads meta-kde with meta packages removed to bring back kde-sc-dev-latest16:35
Riddellsitter: I'm off for the evening, my dream of getting muon in the archive won't be achieved today, maybe tomorrow16:58
Riddelldo keep https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-qapt3 updated with any developments16:58
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mparilloRemoving extras has made the QA tracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/bugs/140955518:21
mparillohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-setup/+bug/140955518:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1409555 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "drop extras.ubuntu.com" [High,In progress]18:21
soeewhat the status of yakuake fixes in vivid ?18:37
shadeslayerI think everyone's gone home18:38
soee;(18:38
yofelthere's an updated konsole4 in proposed, but that won't fix it completely I believe18:43
BluesKaj_soee, yakuake is working well here on vivid18:45
soeeBluesKaj_: you are on Plasma 5.2 beta ?18:46
soeewith lates updates ?18:46
soeeyofel: can i download this package somewere ?18:47
yofelsoee: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konsole4/4:4.14.3-0ubuntu2 - click on the arch to get the deb you need18:47
BluesKaj_soee, how to check plasma version?18:49
soeeBluesKaj_: system settings -> about18:49
soeeyofel: do i need to loogut/login ?18:49
yofelsoee: so, my colorsheme here is fine (but I have my own). I do have no context menu (which the update is supposed to fix)18:49
yofelnah, just restart yakuake18:49
soeeyofel: its white for 18:50
yofelok yeah, the update fixes the context menu..18:51
yofeland there's no useable colorschemes :S18:51
yofelso we need to add those back too18:51
soeehttp://wstaw.org/m/2015/01/20/yakuake.png18:51
yofelyeah, that's what konsole looks like with its hardcoded defaults18:52
soeeoh my :)18:52
yofelsoee: FWIW, you can just make your own scheme in the appearance tab in the settings for now18:54
yofelor copy one from konsole5 out of /usr/share/konsole/18:54
BluesKaj_soee, kde 5.1.9518:57
soeeyofel: yep i have created new profile18:57
soeeBluesKaj_: with latets updates ?18:57
BluesKaj_yes soee18:57
soeedo you use own profiel in yakuake ?18:57
soeeyofel: but the keybord navigtion wont work now right ?18:59
yofeldefine keyboard navigation? I can still switch tabs18:59
soeeyofel: commands history up down etc19:00
yofeloh19:00
BluesKaj_copy and paste into yakuake doesn't work, neither does command scroll back 19:00
yofelsoee: ok, this is annyoing..19:00
soee:D19:00
BluesKaj_yup, very19:01
BluesKaj_gotta go...bbl19:01
yofeloh, we also need those .keytab files for that19:09
yofeldangit :D19:09
yofelsoee: quick fix before you go crazy: sudo cp /usr/share/konsole/default.keytab /usr/share/kde4/apps/konsole/19:09
soee:D19:10
soeewoho works ! :D19:11
soeedo still have/use  kd4 dirs ?19:11
soee*kde419:11
yofelthe kde4 apps do, and this is about konsole419:12
soeethers no konsole based on kf5 yet ?19:12
yofelafter all konsole5 doesn't have the issue (and we're just copying its file over to the kde4 folder for now)19:12
yofel'konsole' is kf5, but yakuake can't use konsole-kpart because it's qt4, which is why it needs konsole4-kpart19:13
yofelk_funk tried yakuake qt5 build yesterday and said it works "kinda well"19:14
soeeoh promising than19:14
yofelshadeslayer: please upload konsole4 from bzr whenever you have time19:21
yofelBluesKaj_: if you need it, you can fix the command scrollback with this for now: sudo cp /usr/share/konsole/default.keytab /usr/share/kde4/apps/konsole/19:22
BluesKaj_yofel,thanks19:23
BluesKaj_yofel, cp: cannot create regular file ‘/usr/share/kde4/apps/konsole/’: Not a directory19:25
yofelBluesKaj_: you might want to check whether konsole4-kpart is installed...19:26
yofelbut yakuake was supposed to depend on that now o.O19:26
BluesKaj_yofel, I'm on 15.04 19:27
yofelme too, and I have yakuake 2.9.9-1ubuntu1 and konsole4-kpart 4:4.14.3-0ubuntu2 (from launchpad)19:28
BluesKaj_so probly plasma/kde4 usr/share/dir19:29
BluesKaj_no19:29
soeeone last thing do solve is why double click on window decoratin does not maximize i19:32
soee*it19:32
soeewhy kernel 3.18.3 is not in vivid yet ?19:43
yofelI fear #ubuntu-kernel will have to answer that19:44

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