[00:48] <valorie> bah, got no reply so I'll sit tight
[00:48] <valorie> my night to visit my dad anyway.....
[07:14] <soee> good morning
[07:16] <soee> Riddell: upgrade to 5.2beta on Utopic was smooth, all seems to work as expected
[07:26] <soee> Riddell: the only think i noticed:  kate : Depends: kate5-data (>= 4:14.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1) but it is not installed
[08:19] <sitter> breeze-qt4's rules look a bit wrong
[08:19] <sitter> include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/debian-qt-kde.mk
[08:19] <sitter> override_dh_auto_configure:
[08:19] <sitter>     $(overridden_command) -- -DUSE_KDE4=true
[08:27] <soee> any chance to have the yakuake fixed ? its a bit hard to use terminal without yakuake :D
[08:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:53] <soee> hi lordievader
[08:53] <lordievader> Hey soee, how are you?
[08:53] <soee> lordievader: im fine, working hard :) thanks. You ?
[08:54] <soee> im happy having plasma 5.2 beta here on Utopic @work
[08:54] <valorie> soee: yakuake isn't working for you?
[08:55] <lordievader> Doing good here, coffee is in the making.
[08:55] <lordievader> :)
[08:55] <soee> valorie: it was broken a bit after yesterdays updates, some ppl reported it
[08:55] <valorie> hmmm, works here
[08:55] <soee> valorie: Plasma 5.2 beta ? vivid ?
[08:56] <valorie> nope, haven't jumped to vivid yet
[08:56] <soee> thats why its working for you :)
[08:56] <valorie> :-)
[08:56] <lordievader> soee: How do I see which version of Plasma I have?
[08:56] <valorie> then it's good I waited
[08:56] <valorie> must have yakuake
[08:57] <soee> lordievader: System Settings - About
[08:57] <soee> valorie: yup, have to use terminal standalone now :)
[08:57] <valorie> how sad!
[08:57] <lordievader> 5.2.90 with KF5.7.0 here.
[08:58] <soee> well i could use yakuake but it has white backgorund now :/ not keyboard navigation work and other inputs 
[08:58] <soee> lordievader: you are on kubnut-ci or something ?
[08:59] <lordievader> Kubuntu-ci unstable, yes. And updating lots of packages right now.
[09:01] <soee> lhats why you have the latest :)
[09:02] <soee> i prefere teh archive version from vivid, more stable ;)
[09:02] <lordievader> This is a test laptop, it can break all it wants :P
[09:03] <soee> oh so you are lucky, i have no such machine i can break :)
[09:04] <lordievader> VM's can be broken too ;)
[09:11] <yofel> soee: I put an updated konsole4 into ninjas for vivid that fixes yakuake partly
[09:12] <Riddell> thanks yofel 
[09:12] <Riddell> yofel: why ninjas, can't it be uploaded?
[09:12] <yofel> Riddell: sure it can, but konsole4 is not in our packageset so not by me
[09:12] <yofel> it's in bzr
[09:13] <Riddell> ok I'll take a look
[09:14] <soee> yofel: i can tets but later at home, now im on Utopic here ate work
[09:15] <soee> the overal performance with 5.2beta is much better for me on Utopic
[09:16] <yofel> yeah, it's gotten a lot better. Sadly monitor attach/detach is still pretty messy :/
[09:37] <soee> hmm, in system monitor i have bluetoothd runnig as root and it is only one process owned by root - is it normal
[09:38] <soee> ?
[09:38] <soee> well not only one but highlighted 
[09:45] <Riddell> fooey, no cd today   kde-config-touchpad : Breaks: kde-touchpad (< 5.1.95~) but 0.0+git20140305-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[09:45] <Riddell> root       413     1  0 ene19 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/bluetoothd
[09:45] <Riddell> soee: seems right ↑
[09:47] <soee> Riddell: thank you
[09:48] <soee> terminal crashes almost each time i try to use TAB to autocomplete
[09:53] <Riddell> soee: even with yofel'd new konsole4 package?
[09:53] <Riddell> soee: on vivid?
[09:53] <Riddell> soee: yakuake or konsole?
[09:54] <soee> Riddell: konsole on utopic + Plasma 5.2 beta
[09:55] <Riddell> well that's weird
[09:55] <Riddell> I don't see that
[10:22] <sitter> https://gist.github.com/apachelogger/79bd0ab11fbc1932f8ac
[10:23] <Riddell> sitter: what's that?
[10:24] <sitter> less shit wrapper around this http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html
[10:24] <sitter> namely it only needs a --version VERSION and a --input SOFILE and it will try to figure out all the other nonsense on its own
[10:25] <Riddell> sitter: ooh yay!
[10:25] <sitter> Package: libkf5sysguard5-data
[10:25] <Quintasan> Can we have that in kubuntu-dev-tools?
[10:25] <sitter> should I keep that version?
[10:25] <sitter> Quintasan: commit it?
[10:25] <sitter> I think it should go to pkg-kde-tools though
[10:26] <Riddell> sitter: why wouldn't you keep libkf5sysguard5-data?
[10:27] <sitter> Riddell: because it got sobumped and having to also bump the data package name seems like an unnecessary bother
[10:27] <sitter> it's not versioned, so there can only ever be one of this data package anyway
[10:27] <Riddell> probably
[10:28] <Riddell> dump the 5 then if that makes it easier
[10:30] <sitter> mh, actually that makes it more complicated because a  long standing issue with CI versions ^^
[10:37] <sitter> that package naming is all weird
[10:37] <sitter> Source: libksysguard   -> Package: libkf5sysguard-dev -> Package: libkf5sysguard5 -> Package: libksysguard5-dbg
[10:37] <sitter> I think that covers all available options available for naming ^^
[10:37]  * sitter rolls a dice on what to do with that
[10:46] <Riddell> sitter: did you get anywhere with qapt3/muon packages or shall I look into that?
[10:46] <sitter> not yet
[10:46] <sitter> today
[10:46] <sitter> in fact after ksysguard
[10:53] <sitter> shadeslayer: yofel: Riddell: libksysguard unstable could use a review
[10:54] <soee> on Utopic yakuake shows: Yakuake cant read Konsole component. Konsole installation is required, to be able to use Yakuake.
[11:07] <Riddell> yofel: konsole4 uploaded to vivid!
[11:07] <Riddell> soee: I guess that needs backported to fix what you're seeing in utopic
[11:09] <Riddell> soee: uploaded it to utopic too konsole4_4.14.3-0ubuntu2~ubuntu14.10~ppa1
[11:11] <soee> Riddell: what about the kate issue ?
[11:12] <yofel> Riddell: thanks
[11:12] <yofel> soee: is konsole4-kpart even installed?
[11:13] <soee> yofel: what is it? i see no such package
[11:13] <yofel> ah, then konsole4 never got backported. Should be built soon ^^
[11:22] <soee> Riddell: can i disable next-staging now in Utopic ?
[11:22] <Riddell> soee: you can do as you wish, the packages haven't moved out of next-staging yet however so you'd not get any fixes/updates
[11:23] <soee> Riddell: what about the koncole stuff and yakuake ?
[11:23] <soee> *konsole
[11:24] <soee> and the unmet dep:  kate : Depends: kate5-data (>= 4:14.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1) but it is not installed
[11:25] <soee> oh well -f shuld help i think
[11:25] <soee> erp nope
[11:26] <soee> trying to overwrite "/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/kate.png", and it exists also in package kate-data 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:19] <soee> any idea why chrome/chromium ofen stops to repond on clicks etc. the window has to be resized to get it usable again
[12:20] <Riddell> soee: hmm I guess I need to do some more testing for those
[12:20] <Riddell> chromium has problems if you have ibus running
[12:20] <Riddell> that's keyboard though not mouse
[12:21] <soee> i have this probelm here at work only, not on my laptop at home
[12:31] <soee> wrr, terminal crashes and crashes
[12:41] <soee> hmm the all packages after upgrade were not configured beacuse of kate problem
[12:41] <soee> i have removed kate now and they are being configured
[12:44] <soee> and it stucked ad configuring new /etc/init/bluetooth.conf ...
[12:48] <soee> stoped, did configure again and now it stops at bluez (5.23-1ubuntu1~mtrudel1) ...
[13:05] <soee> impossible to fix it
[13:06] <soee> impossible to fix it
[13:06] <soee> sorry, not this window
[13:10] <soee> ok had to diable bluetooth not it passed
[13:27] <_Groo_> soee: intel? radeon? nvidia?
[13:27] <_Groo_> soee: do you have gpu hw enabled? check with chrome://gpu
[13:28] <_Groo_> you will need a fairly recent open source driver for chrome
[13:28] <_Groo_> just today intel fixed some gpu crashes related to chrome and glmark2
[13:28] <_Groo_> its in my ppa
[13:29] <soee> _Groo_: im on nvidia propriety
[13:29] <_Groo_> which chrome version?
[13:29] <_Groo_> and is gpu active?
[13:29] <soee> Chrome/39.0.2171.65
[13:30] <_Groo_> yeah its old
[13:30] <_Groo_> try chrome unstable 41.x
[13:30] <_Groo_> i use it daily 
[13:30] <_Groo_> much better with the gpu acceleration
[13:30] <soee> im using chromium here
[13:30] <_Groo_> what about chrome://gpu?
[13:30] <_Groo_> what does it say?
[13:30] <soee> a lot of stuff reports
[13:30] <_Groo_> first lines, are they green?
[13:31] <_Groo_> graphics features status
[13:31] <soee> _Groo_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9794363/
[13:32] <_Groo_> try disabling hw accel in chrome://flags
[13:32] <_Groo_> it will be slower but more stable
[13:32] <_Groo_> or upgrade to a more modern chrome
[13:39] <sitter> wgrant: can it happen that an ftp dput gets lost along the way? as of maybe a week ago I am seeing at least on upload per day where dput comes back without error but it never arrives in launchpad (i.e. also no accept/reject email from launchpad)
[13:50] <sitter> kde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:4.12
[13:50] <sitter> why is that not applications
[13:50] <sitter> and what is it good for (I totally forgot)
[14:02] <shadeslayer> sitter: I don't think we use that anymore 
[14:05] <sitter> I do not know, it makes kanagram fail stable integration tho because that thing is not integrated
[14:05] <sitter> on that note we needs native package integration capability -.-
[14:05] <shadeslayer> native integration ?
[14:06] <sitter> native packages
[14:06] <sitter> shadeslayer: aren't u in london?
[14:06] <shadeslayer> yes
[14:06] <sitter> shadeslayer: you needs to merge frameworks branch of kubuntu-driver-manager and do release
[14:06] <shadeslayer> merge to master right>
[14:06] <shadeslayer> ah native packages
[14:07] <shadeslayer> My CI can do that :?
[14:07] <shadeslayer> :>
[14:07] <sitter> how can it?
[14:08] <shadeslayer> It takes sources, debian packaging, mashes them together and builds it
[14:08] <sitter> shadeslayer: there is no debian packaging
[14:08] <sitter> there is only one source
[14:08] <shadeslayer> ahh 
[14:08] <shadeslayer> just specify it twice then
[14:08] <shadeslayer> pft
[14:08] <sitter> lol
[14:08] <shadeslayer> src = debian packaging = git repo
[14:09] <sitter> like there isn't enough hacks already
[14:09] <shadeslayer> doesn't really matter to my packaging
[14:10] <shadeslayer> pft hater
[14:11] <_Groo_> apparently kwin finally fixed the shadows artifacts in plasma... oh wait, i talked to soon :P
[14:12] <shadeslayer> sitter: ahhh, my old tooling had it
[14:12] <shadeslayer> but I haven't implemented it yet 
[14:12] <shadeslayer> in my new stuff
[14:13] <mgraesslin> _Groo_: please report bugs if you see artifacts, otherwise it will never get fixed
[14:14] <sitter> shadeslayer: how would that even work, needs provisioning in projects
[14:14] <sitter> hell, projects has too much responsibility :@
[14:14] <shadeslayer> it read debian/source/format
[14:15] <shadeslayer> oh
[14:16] <sitter> well yeah, except with the divide between project construction and job creation you need to get that information in a project and then have the jobs behave accordingly (latter with my refactor ought to be pretty opaquely contained within some buildjob though, so there's an improvement)
[14:16] <sitter> projects.rb still does too much crap
[14:19] <shadeslayer> I started reading your new stuff last night ...
[14:20] <shadeslayer> seems interesting
[14:59] <_Groo_> nice, ksysguard is fixed, not could someone fix kio-mtp (kde 4.x), so it doesnt try to remove kde-extras-*
[14:59] <Riddell> _Groo_: in utopic or vivid?
[15:00] <_Groo_> utopic
[15:00] <_Groo_> ci
[15:00] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4MkSzBYK
[15:29] <shadeslayer> sitter: is plasma-nm failing for you ?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, plasma 5 nm wifi  auto-connect isn't working here. However manual connect with nm wifi does work
[15:34] <shadeslayer> no, I meant as in the build :p
[15:35] <shadeslayer> also, autoconnect wfm
[15:39] <Riddell> sitter: muon uploaded!
[15:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: are you handling the A2 management?
[15:42] <Riddell> nope
[15:42] <shadeslayer> because no one stepped up for it AFAICT
[15:42] <Riddell> which means it may well not happen
[15:42] <shadeslayer> no A2 then?
[15:42] <shadeslayer> I think Kubuntu should do one
[15:43] <shadeslayer> which means I'll have to volunteer
[15:43] <shadeslayer> or sitter
[15:43] <Riddell> but ubiquity didn't work yesterday with an unknown error in ubi-console so it may not be trivial
[15:43] <shadeslayer> makes it even more important :S
[15:43] <Riddell> so first task would be to check if these images I just had make installs http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20150120.1/
[15:44] <Riddell> but I'm kindae in muon mode just now
[15:44] <shadeslayer> didn't realize you had a muon mode
[15:45]  * shadeslayer is in dci mode
[15:46] <Riddell> aren't you on holiday? or are you just in a not-office mode?
[15:47] <shadeslayer> not on a holiday
[15:47] <shadeslayer> Though I won't be around this Thu/Fri probably
[15:48] <sitter> what's an A2?
[15:48] <shadeslayer> Alpha 2
[15:48] <sitter> I am not reliable enough to do release coordination
[15:50] <yofel> he ran away
[15:52] <shadeslayer> oh crap
[15:52] <shadeslayer> it might be too late
[15:52] <shadeslayer> A2 is on 22nd
[15:52] <shadeslayer> And I'm not around :/
[15:53] <sitter> pft, I sure don't have time then
[15:55] <shadeslayer> sitter: http://dci.pangea.pub/job/plasma/job/plasma-nm_binary_unstable/9/console
[15:57] <sitter> wfm
[15:57] <shadeslayer> :(
[16:03] <Riddell> sitter: apol asks if muon tests fail in kci jenkins, is that set up?
[16:03] <sitter> its disabled
[16:03] <sitter> there is at least one test that definitely doesn't pass in build environments
[16:04] <sitter> and reviewstest does sound like a hot contender for that
[16:04] <sitter> actually
[16:04] <Riddell> right but jenkins isn't a build environment
[16:04] <sitter> Riddell: your bug definitely is because of build env ... you can't access webs from a build
[16:04] <sitter> Riddell: sure it is, jenkins is just a management frontend to lunchpad
[16:05] <Riddell> oh
[16:05]  * sitter wonders why libkubuntu tests want xcb
[16:06] <sitter> oh they would probably load qtgui which might want xcb
[16:22] <cyphermox> anyone else on vivid sees quassel just disappear everyonce in a while for no apparent reason? I don't have crash reports or anything, the window just goes away
[16:23] <mparillo> I have successfully used the upgrade tool to upgrade Utopic to Vivid. In the upgrade doc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu There is a large section on what to do with the extras. 
[16:26] <Riddell> mparillo: hah, great thanks
[16:26] <Riddell> mparillo: although is it not easier to use software-properties?
[16:26] <Riddell> mparillo: and to do it before running the upgrade tool?
[16:28] <mparillo> Hmm, I did not know about software properties. Is that an option on muon-upgrade?
[16:30] <Riddell> mparillo: yeah in muon-updater click More -> advanced -> configure software sources
[16:34] <mparillo> I do not see extras there. Maybe it is named something else. On the first tab, I see Main, Restricted, Universe, and Multiverse. On the second tab I see Independent and Canonical Partners.
[16:35]  * Riddell uploads meta-kde with meta packages removed to bring back kde-sc-dev-latest
[16:58] <Riddell> sitter: I'm off for the evening, my dream of getting muon in the archive won't be achieved today, maybe tomorrow
[16:58] <Riddell> do keep https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-qapt3 updated with any developments
[18:21] <mparillo> Removing extras has made the QA tracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/bugs/1409555
[18:21] <mparillo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-setup/+bug/1409555
[18:37] <soee> what the status of yakuake fixes in vivid ?
[18:38] <shadeslayer> I think everyone's gone home
[18:38] <soee> ;(
[18:43] <yofel> there's an updated konsole4 in proposed, but that won't fix it completely I believe
[18:45] <BluesKaj_> soee, yakuake is working well here on vivid
[18:46] <soee> BluesKaj_: you are on Plasma 5.2 beta ?
[18:46] <soee> with lates updates ?
[18:47] <soee> yofel: can i download this package somewere ?
[18:47] <yofel> soee: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konsole4/4:4.14.3-0ubuntu2 - click on the arch to get the deb you need
[18:49] <BluesKaj_> soee, how to check plasma version?
[18:49] <soee> BluesKaj_: system settings -> about
[18:49] <soee> yofel: do i need to loogut/login ?
[18:49] <yofel> soee: so, my colorsheme here is fine (but I have my own). I do have no context menu (which the update is supposed to fix)
[18:49] <yofel> nah, just restart yakuake
[18:50] <soee> yofel: its white for 
[18:51] <yofel> ok yeah, the update fixes the context menu..
[18:51] <yofel> and there's no useable colorschemes :S
[18:51] <yofel> so we need to add those back too
[18:51] <soee> http://wstaw.org/m/2015/01/20/yakuake.png
[18:52] <yofel> yeah, that's what konsole looks like with its hardcoded defaults
[18:52] <soee> oh my :)
[18:54] <yofel> soee: FWIW, you can just make your own scheme in the appearance tab in the settings for now
[18:54] <yofel> or copy one from konsole5 out of /usr/share/konsole/
[18:57] <BluesKaj_> soee, kde 5.1.95
[18:57] <soee> yofel: yep i have created new profile
[18:57] <soee> BluesKaj_: with latets updates ?
[18:57] <BluesKaj_> yes soee
[18:57] <soee> do you use own profiel in yakuake ?
[18:59] <soee> yofel: but the keybord navigtion wont work now right ?
[18:59] <yofel> define keyboard navigation? I can still switch tabs
[19:00] <soee> yofel: commands history up down etc
[19:00] <yofel> oh
[19:00] <BluesKaj_> copy and paste into yakuake doesn't work, neither does command scroll back 
[19:00] <yofel> soee: ok, this is annyoing..
[19:00] <soee> :D
[19:01] <BluesKaj_> yup, very
[19:01] <BluesKaj_> gotta go...bbl
[19:09] <yofel> oh, we also need those .keytab files for that
[19:09] <yofel> dangit :D
[19:09] <yofel> soee: quick fix before you go crazy: sudo cp /usr/share/konsole/default.keytab /usr/share/kde4/apps/konsole/
[19:10] <soee> :D
[19:11] <soee> woho works ! :D
[19:11] <soee> do still have/use  kd4 dirs ?
[19:11] <soee> *kde4
[19:12] <yofel> the kde4 apps do, and this is about konsole4
[19:12] <soee> thers no konsole based on kf5 yet ?
[19:12] <yofel> after all konsole5 doesn't have the issue (and we're just copying its file over to the kde4 folder for now)
[19:13] <yofel> 'konsole' is kf5, but yakuake can't use konsole-kpart because it's qt4, which is why it needs konsole4-kpart
[19:14] <yofel> k_funk tried yakuake qt5 build yesterday and said it works "kinda well"
[19:14] <soee> oh promising than
[19:21] <yofel> shadeslayer: please upload konsole4 from bzr whenever you have time
[19:22] <yofel> BluesKaj_: if you need it, you can fix the command scrollback with this for now: sudo cp /usr/share/konsole/default.keytab /usr/share/kde4/apps/konsole/
[19:23] <BluesKaj_> yofel,thanks
[19:25] <BluesKaj_> yofel, cp: cannot create regular file ‘/usr/share/kde4/apps/konsole/’: Not a directory
[19:26] <yofel> BluesKaj_: you might want to check whether konsole4-kpart is installed...
[19:26] <yofel> but yakuake was supposed to depend on that now o.O
[19:27] <BluesKaj_> yofel, I'm on 15.04 
[19:28] <yofel> me too, and I have yakuake 2.9.9-1ubuntu1 and konsole4-kpart 4:4.14.3-0ubuntu2 (from launchpad)
[19:29] <BluesKaj_> so probly plasma/kde4 usr/share/dir
[19:29] <BluesKaj_> no
[19:32] <soee> one last thing do solve is why double click on window decoratin does not maximize i
[19:32] <soee> *it
[19:43] <soee> why kernel 3.18.3 is not in vivid yet ?
[19:44] <yofel> I fear #ubuntu-kernel will have to answer that