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| newbooter | My Lubuntu just refused to restart... could anyone give me a hand please? | 18:52 |
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| newbooter | It hangs at the Lubuntu 14.10 .... and stays at the four moving dots. | 18:52 |
| newbooter | Prior to that, I got an error on transmission and when copying saying error: read-only filesystem. | 18:53 |
| newbooter | Did reboot, with result above... | 18:53 |
| newbooter | Before that, no problems, did not install anything new recently either. | 18:55 |
| newbooter | Is there a recovery mode I can try to start up with? | 18:58 |
| ianorlin | newbooter does pressing control alt f1 switch you to a tty? | 19:24 |
| newbooter | will try that ianorlin | 19:27 |
| ianorlin | might be a video driver problem | 19:29 |
| ianorlin | something else to try | 19:29 |
| ianorlin | !nomodeset | 19:29 |
| ubottu | A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 19:29 |
| newbooter | ok | 19:33 |
| newbooter | At the moment I have booted in to another Linux (puppylinux) and I have gparted open to look at the disks | 19:34 |
| newbooter | That read-only error apparently can be an indication of partition issues. | 19:34 |
| newbooter | Can I set gparted to check a partition without repairing it straight away (and thereby possibly corrupting the data?) | 19:35 |
| Mr_Comet | good question. | 19:40 |
| Mr_Comet | i dont think gpart will mess up the partition | 19:40 |
| Mr_Comet | i had a usb drive | 19:40 |
| Mr_Comet | it was ext3/4 | 19:40 |
| Mr_Comet | it got corrupted. | 19:40 |
| Mr_Comet | had mint linux in it | 19:40 |
| Mr_Comet | gpart couldnt read it | 19:41 |
| Mr_Comet | just showed partition | 19:41 |
| Mr_Comet | testdisk recovery didnt work onit | 19:41 |
| Mr_Comet | finally formatted it | 19:42 |
| Mr_Comet | and used puppy in it | 19:42 |
| newbooter | Okay so you are saying check+repair with gparted is worth a shot? | 19:45 |
| newbooter | testdisk recovery. Do you mean if you run Lubuntu from ISO/CD it has a recovery mode? | 19:45 |
| newbooter | Going to reboot and try the suggestions provided... thanks so far everyone! | 19:48 |
| Mr_Comet | i think one has to install testdisk. its not avail by default i think | 19:48 |
| Mr_Comet | nope. | 19:49 |
| Mr_Comet | live iso/cd dont have testdisk i think | 19:49 |
| Mr_Comet | you could install testdisk on live cd but it wont be saved for next use . | 19:50 |
| Mr_Comet | im never a fan of recovery and backing up of data with apps | 19:51 |
| Mr_Comet | 1st partition for os | 19:51 |
| Mr_Comet | 2nd partition for data | 19:51 |
| Mr_Comet | usb drive for backup. | 19:51 |
| Mr_Comet | thats my simple style | 19:51 |
| ianorlin | no hold down shift and you can gett to grub and boot into recovery from there | 20:01 |
| holstein | im a fan of testdisk for recovery | 20:01 |
| holstein | i mean, ideally, one would have a proper backup to refer to.. but, if you dont, those tools are great | 20:02 |
| holstein | i use a live iso, and sudo apt-get install testdisk.. or, i'll just the ultimate boot cd | 20:02 |
| holstein | https://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ | 20:02 |
| Mr_Comet | thx to lubuntu like its ubuntu, i got burned twice losing HDD partition in the name of installation | 20:02 |
| holstein | lubuntu *is* ubuntu :) | 20:03 |
| Mr_Comet | testdisk saved me. | 20:03 |
| Mr_Comet | never thot it inherited its installation DNA | 20:03 |
| holstein | most do say, and should say "dont partition without expecting breakage.. | 20:03 |
| Mr_Comet | i learned the hard way | 20:03 |
| Mr_Comet | for the 2nd time. | 20:03 |
| Mr_Comet | sigh | 20:03 |
| Mr_Comet | i wished ubuntu and its clones just use harddisk's current partitions instead of messing it up | 20:04 |
| holstein | lol | 20:04 |
| holstein | its not "messing it up". its partitioning | 20:04 |
| Mr_Comet | in this regard, i respect MINT | 20:04 |
| holstein | its not an ubuntu/lubuntu/linux issue at all | 20:04 |
| holstein | repartitioning and partitioning *can* break things.. | 20:05 |
| holstein | mint is the same.. with most of the same tools.. gparted. etc.. | 20:05 |
| Mr_Comet | im not even gonna argue about ubuntu and its flavors anymore when it comes to installation. will only install IF the HDD is empty. | 20:05 |
| holstein | go ahead and expect that the drive *will* fail. since it will. and when it does, you can lose things | 20:07 |
| holstein | then, you have no issues using installers.. you are asking them all to resize partitions, which, is not trivial,and can realisticall break things.. from *any* os/partitioner | 20:07 |
| Mr_Comet | i had a panic attack thx to lubuntu :( | 20:07 |
| Mr_Comet | i just dont know why i mess up the *buntus installations when mint goes well | 20:08 |
| holstein | Mr_Comet: if you do the same with mint, it *will* break as well eventually | 20:08 |
| holstein | Mr_Comet: mint is not magically resizing your partitions with a "better" tool.. its the same technology.. | 20:08 |
| Mr_Comet | i never mess up with mint. thats why im puzzled. | 20:09 |
| holstein | Mr_Comet: no one on the mint team will say "just install and resize without worry.. our partitioner wont break existing data" | 20:09 |
| holstein | they will *all* suggest you backup before resizing | 20:09 |
| Mr_Comet | ok | 20:14 |
| newbooter | Lubuntu running again... thanks everyone for your tips. In the end I went ahead with a disk check and repair with Gparted running from ISO... that did the trick. | 20:17 |
| holstein | newbooter: keep in mind, those issues are usually indicative of a larger problem.. like, a failing hard drive | 20:17 |
| holstein | if i have, either, a brand new drive, or an older drive, i'll watch and test it closely.. those are the times drives are more likely to fail, and they *all* fail | 20:18 |
| Mr_Comet | holstein- +1 | 20:20 |
| newbooter | Hm thanks holstein. This is in fact a brand new USB drive... | 20:38 |
| newbooter | So probably run some drive tests to make sure it's ok? | 20:38 |
| newbooter | Also, does lubuntu have backup software? | 20:40 |
| teward | wxl: running a software update from the older image you asked me to look at to latest - lets see if it blows up the VM or not :) | 22:04 |
| teward | osnap | 22:29 |
| teward | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9798963/ *waits for Alpha 2 instead* | 22:31 |
| teward | s/Alpha 2/next milestone/ | 22:31 |
| wxl | i've seen some bugs re: extras.ubuntu.com | 22:31 |
| wxl | maybe it has to do with that | 22:31 |
| Unit193 | Looks entirely unrelated. | 22:32 |
| teward | well alpha 1 -> now via apt-get update; apt-get upgrade failed with that | 22:32 |
| teward | i'mma wait for the next alpha release and do testcases | 22:32 |
| teward | 'CAUSE I'M BORED | 22:32 |
| teward | s/alpha release/milestone/ | 22:32 |
| Unit193 | I've had no problems, upgraded to vivid a bit ago. | 22:35 |
| ianorlin | commenting out the sources works but they really should fix that | 22:36 |
| ianorlin | the one reason I did so I could have new stuff and not mask other bugs | 22:36 |
| Unit193 | ianorlin: But, is there anything worth it in those extras? Yes commenting out fixes it, but I already had 'em disabled. | 22:37 |
| ianorlin | I don't know of anything worthwhile in them | 22:37 |
| teward | Unit193: nothing on that VM was in extras so... | 22:39 |
| teward | wxl: ^ | 22:39 |
| * teward shrugs | 22:39 | |
| Unit193 | That looks like fun to fix. | 22:40 |
| * teward sends the VM to /dev/null and prepares to recreate later | 22:41 | |
| Jaybot | Hi, I have a question about user and group permissions | 23:54 |
| wxl | sounds like a ##linux question Jaybot :) | 23:56 |
| Jaybot | okay i'll head there | 23:56 |
| Jaybot | thanks wxl | 23:56 |
| wxl | you can ask here Jaybot | 23:56 |
| wxl | but it's not specific to lubuntu i'm sure | 23:56 |
| Jaybot | I just joined ##linux and will try there first | 23:57 |
| Jaybot | thanks for your help ;) | 23:57 |
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