| pleia2 | ok, I'll take a picture tomorrow | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | seriously... :) | 00:00 |
| pleia2 | I have a photo cube to take nice white background photos! | 00:00 |
| pleia2 | anyway, have some house things to do with the husband now, bbiab :) | 00:00 |
| knome | ooh ooh! | 00:00 |
| knome | hf with house | 00:00 |
| slickymaster | you didn't like today's computing knome? | 00:01 |
| knome | the apostrophe put me off | 00:01 |
| slickymaster | lol | 00:01 |
| slickymaster | ok this rewording works for me | 00:01 |
| knome | i'm just goofing off next, let's see if anything comes out of it | 00:01 |
| slickymaster | knome, that would be overreaching | 00:03 |
| knome | meh "we" | 00:03 |
| slickymaster | besides the 'we' isnt' that too juch | 00:04 |
| slickymaster | *much | 00:04 |
| knome | yeah.. | 00:05 |
| slickymaster | I would stick to what we have | 00:05 |
| slickymaster | reworded as is nowe | 00:05 |
| slickymaster | * now | 00:05 |
| knome | wfm | 00:05 |
| knome | as i said, didn't know if anything would come off that | 00:05 |
| knome | that's a start, and we can improve as we go | 00:05 |
| slickymaster | ok, I'll fix the typo, also, correct the keepass issue and push it | 00:06 |
| slickymaster | of course | 00:06 |
| knome | still time for 16.04 which is obviously the next big target | 00:06 |
| slickymaster | exactly | 00:06 |
| slickymaster | by then you'll be the next doc lead :P | 00:06 |
| knome | you wish :P | 00:07 |
| slickymaster | lol | 00:08 |
| slickymaster | knome, pushed up to revision 283 | 00:12 |
| knome | goodie | 00:12 |
| slickymaster | damn, forgot to update the translation templates | 00:12 |
| slickymaster | doing it now :P | 00:12 |
| knome | heh | 00:13 |
| slickymaster | done | 00:14 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: pushed updated light-locker-settings, in case you were interested :) | 03:37 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: almost have the next xfpm patch (without the light-locker enable checkbox) done... should have it ready tomorrow morning, evening latest | 04:08 |
| bluesabre | bedtime now, bbl | 04:08 |
| Unit193 | G'nighty. | 04:08 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmusicbrowser/+bug/1223808 was that fixed/important/anything worth looking at? It's marked expired. | 06:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1223808 in gmusicbrowser (Ubuntu) "gmbrc misses line to activate albuminfo-plugin" [Undecided,Expired] | 06:08 |
| Unit193 | Going to presume that it was fixed upstream. | 06:08 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: oh, so it's ok to set rm_conffile for our custom light-locker.desktop? if yes, is 15.04.3~ correct, or just 15.04.3? | 09:16 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: and is there some enabled/disabled switch? | 09:18 |
| brainwash | ochosi: even more comments by b3nmore in the xfpm report =S | 09:28 |
| brainwash | he really likes to debug this | 09:28 |
| brainwash | but I feel more and more like just ignoring that :/ | 09:29 |
| brainwash | well, I've subscribed cavalier | 09:31 |
| ochosi | yeah, but frankly, you can't dump such a huge pile of **** on someone else like that | 09:31 |
| ochosi | with the encyclopedic size of that bugreport, i'm not sure anybody will be able to follow through | 09:32 |
| brainwash | right, I will tell him to focus on the last comments which focus on light-locker | 09:32 |
| ochosi | and finally, welcome to my world | 09:32 |
| brainwash | heh, this power management thing is still haunting us, there is no escape :) | 09:35 |
| ochosi | one more thing i might try is building the power-manager without the whole DPMS crap | 09:36 |
| ochosi | because in the suspend logic it forces the display to shut off | 09:36 |
| ochosi | and that seems to match some of the bugreports | 09:36 |
| brainwash | ah, yes, we need some test builds with deactivated feature | 09:36 |
| brainwash | features | 09:36 |
| brainwash | that would help a lot | 09:36 |
| ochosi | theoretically that shouldn't be an issue, cause it only happens in very specific cases, but i'm not sure, maybe the logic is flawed there | 09:37 |
| ochosi | can you reproduce any of those black-screen bugs? | 09:37 |
| brainwash | no.. I haven't even tested this once, cause I only test xubuntu on a desktop pc | 09:37 |
| ochosi | well that doesn't make you the prime debugger, does it..? :D | 09:38 |
| brainwash | yeah, I mainly try to gather all the needed info and test results from other users | 09:39 |
| brainwash | the core issue (xfpm ignores settings) can be fixed by moving some of the lls logic to xfpm (already done in vivid) | 09:40 |
| brainwash | but this new light-locker madness, mmh, and these unexpected results | 09:40 |
| brainwash | I really should test this myself | 09:41 |
| brainwash | I assume you and bluesabre do run xubuntu on a laptop, right? I'm not saying that you should test this stuff 24/7, but you could theoretically | 09:42 |
| brainwash | in case we find a fix or something that helps | 09:43 |
| brainwash | I mean theoretically test this once in a while :) | 09:44 |
| ochosi | yeah, but for now suspend is really broken here, the xfpm-lls patch needs to be finalized first | 09:44 |
| brainwash | you mean in vivid? | 09:45 |
| ochosi | yes | 09:45 |
| brainwash | oh, ok then | 09:45 |
| brainwash | I thought that it was already done | 09:45 |
| brainwash | but I've only tested if the sliders work | 09:46 |
| brainwash | and the check boxes | 09:46 |
| ochosi | the logind-logic part that lls did isn't implemented yet | 09:48 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: just a quick question, have you uploaded Greybird1.5 to vivid already? asking because we need that ubiquity-panel-bg.png so i can propose my MR http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ochosi/ubiquity/xubuntu-panel-bg/revision/6244 | 10:58 |
| ochosi | i was considering putting it into xubuntu-artwork, but then again it doesn't really matter if ppl don't have greybird installed, it'll just fall back to the default ubiquity panel bg | 10:59 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: fixed upstream | 11:00 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: not uploaded yet, was waiting for numix, can do so though | 11:02 |
| ochosi | no worries, i'll get the catfish patch into numix now and then do a releaes | 11:03 |
| ochosi | release | 11:03 |
| ochosi | then you can do the upload | 11:03 |
| bluesabre | cool | 11:04 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Figured it was something silly, listed on harvest. Trying to use the harvest interface, it used to be decent but now is rather useless. :/ | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | yeah, I think that was around the time that my sponsored package/debdiff completely trashed encoding in gmb, so I disconnected a bit :) | 11:07 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: just tagged Numix 2.5.1 | 11:14 |
| ochosi | so you're on | 11:14 |
| bluesabre | woot | 11:14 |
| ochosi | btw, it sucks a tiny bit that our theme-packages don't reflect the actual version numbers of the themes, but still follow the old shimmer-themes model | 11:14 |
| ochosi | but well, i guess as long as the greybird version is smaller than the shimmer-themes version, there's not too much we can do | 11:15 |
| Unit193 | Same source package still. | 11:15 |
| bluesabre | ^ | 11:15 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: should I pull snapshots of the other themes as well? | 11:16 |
| ochosi | not sure anything happened with any other theme | 11:18 |
| ochosi | i personally haven't pushed fixes to them in quite a while | 11:18 |
| bluesabre | bluebird and albatross both have updates | 11:18 |
| ochosi | right | 11:18 |
| ochosi | i haven't tested those at all | 11:19 |
| ochosi | i mean you can update them if you want, but it's not really like those themes are in a good place right now | 11:19 |
| bluesabre | several in fact, last releases were in August and March respectively | 11:19 |
| bluesabre | https://github.com/shimmerproject/Bluebird/commits/master looks healthy-ish for gtk 3.14 | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | Albatross too | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | want to tag those releases so they're not completely broken in vivid? | 11:21 |
| ochosi | looking healthy means you've tested them recently on vivid? | 11:21 |
| bluesabre | nope, only that "fixes for gtk 3.14. add missing button states" | 11:22 |
| ochosi | yeah, but that's only the tip of the iceberg of what needs to be done for 3.14 | 11:22 |
| bluesabre | sounds better than when they were last tagged with 3.12/3.10 support | 11:22 |
| ochosi | that is what i originally thought would be okayish, but then realised how much more work it would be and decided to drop support | 11:22 |
| bluesabre | ok | 11:22 |
| ochosi | i'll quickly test | 11:23 |
| ochosi | sweet jesus... | 11:23 |
| ochosi | ok, bluebird is definitely not in a usable state | 11:23 |
| Unit193 | Either way, it's less broken than what it is now? | 11:23 |
| ochosi | indicators are totally broken | 11:23 |
| Unit193 | Half broken anyway. :P | 11:23 |
| ochosi | all menus have transparent background in bluebird | 11:24 |
| ochosi | so that one is definitely unusable | 11:24 |
| ochosi | hah, not only that. | 11:24 |
| ochosi | even the open-file dialog is transparent | 11:24 |
| bluesabre | lol | 11:24 |
| Unit193 | Pics? :D | 11:24 |
| bluesabre | greybird and numix only, it is then | 11:24 |
| ochosi | http://i.imgur.com/xCD12Oo.png | 11:25 |
| Unit193 | My goodness. | 11:25 |
| bluesabre | thats pretty awful | 11:25 |
| ochosi | albatross looks a bit better | 11:26 |
| ochosi | but still, broken indicators | 11:26 |
| ochosi | i guess that one would be a tiny bit less work to fix up | 11:26 |
| ochosi | but still... | 11:26 |
| bluesabre | maybe we can get some basic support before 15.04 | 11:26 |
| bluesabre | but I'll drop them to suggests in this upload | 11:27 |
| ochosi | maybe | 11:27 |
| ochosi | but honestly i don't have time for this | 11:27 |
| ochosi | so unless someone else steps up, i'll have to retire them | 11:27 |
| ochosi | i can take a quick peek at ali1234's orion work | 11:28 |
| ochosi | ok, so orion looks okayish there | 11:29 |
| ochosi | some padding issues and i guess some patches from greybird haven't been ported yet | 11:30 |
| ochosi | ali1234: plans to fix that ^ up? if so, i wouldn't mind shipping orion in 15.04 | 11:30 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: did you move the bright theme? not seeing it in the greybird release tar | 11:37 |
| ochosi | nope, it's still there: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/tree/master/xfce-notify-4.0_bright | 11:38 |
| ochosi | the release tars are autogenerated by github, so if something is wrong, blame them | 11:38 |
| ochosi | weird | 11:39 |
| ochosi | you're right, it's not there | 11:39 |
| ochosi | don't ask me why | 11:39 |
| ochosi | oh crap | 11:39 |
| ochosi | the tag is one commit before the notification theme was added | 11:40 |
| * ochosi facepalms | 11:40 | |
| bluesabre | haha | 11:40 |
| ochosi | i guess i could rewrite the git history (although that's considered evil) | 11:40 |
| bluesabre | greybird-1.5.1.1 | 11:41 |
| bluesabre | ;) | 11:41 |
| ochosi | nah, give me a minute here | 11:41 |
| ochosi | nasty ochosi has force-updated the tag | 11:44 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: so it should be fine now | 11:45 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: running a test build now and will upload in a bit | 11:54 |
| bluesabre | uploaded (with typo!) | 12:00 |
| bluesabre | shimmer-themes (1.9.2-0ubuntu1) vivid; urgency=medium | 12:00 |
| bluesabre | * New theme releases (Greybird:1.5.1, Numix:2.5.1) | 12:00 |
| bluesabre | * debian/greybird-gtk-theme.install: | 12:00 |
| bluesabre | - Install new Greybird-bright notification theme | 12:00 |
| bluesabre | * debian/control: Drop Bluebird and Orion to Suggusts | 12:00 |
| bluesabre | stupid Suggusts | 12:00 |
| bluesabre | enjoy | 12:01 |
| knome | lol | 12:02 |
| knome | oi ochosi | 12:03 |
| slickymasterWork | bah knome, great idea rewriting the all "Keeping safe..." chapter | 12:05 |
| knome | ? :D | 12:05 |
| slickymasterWork | now there's 74 extra strings to be translated :P | 12:05 |
| knome | ;) | 12:05 |
| knome | hmph. | 12:05 |
| * slickymasterWork blames knome entirely | 12:05 | |
| ochosi | bluesabre: that's suggusting! | 12:16 |
| bluesabre | :p | 12:16 |
| Unit193 | That's suggestive. ;) | 12:17 |
| ochosi | ok, thanks, so i'll file the MR | 12:17 |
| knome | ochosi, see -offtopic | 12:18 |
| bluesabre | ok, going to do non-xubuntu stuff for a while, bbl | 12:18 |
| ochosi | knome: done | 12:37 |
| knome | ta | 12:39 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, you're now in the xubuntu-website team | 12:39 |
| slickymasterWork | \o/ | 12:40 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, eg. when you log in to the xubuntu website, you have access to change all the content on the fly | 12:40 |
| slickymasterWork | thanks | 12:40 |
| knome | i know i don't have to say it, but use the privilege responsibly and most importantly, DON'T MESS THE SITE UP :) | 12:40 |
| slickymasterWork | I'll try my best not to knome, but I can't promise you nothing :) | 12:41 |
| slickymasterWork | ;) | 12:41 |
| bluesabre | replace every instance of "help" with "tarantulas" | 12:42 |
| bluesabre | "to get tarantulas with Xubuntu try the Desktop Environments category of the forums" | 12:42 |
| slickymasterWork | lol, or link it to some boring literature bluesabre | 12:43 |
| bluesabre | :) | 12:43 |
| knome | bluesabre, omg :P | 12:43 |
| bluesabre | slickymasterWork: in that case, http://open.knome.fi/ | 12:43 |
| bluesabre | :P | 12:43 |
| knome | bluesabre, thanks! | 12:44 |
| slickymasterWork | that's one of the top candidates bluesabre | 12:44 |
| bluesabre | lol | 12:44 |
| knome | i never tried to be a exciting read | 12:44 |
| knome | so i guess that counts as compliment | 12:44 |
| bluesabre | joking aside, it is good content | 12:44 |
| * slickymasterWork whistles | 12:44 | |
| knome | heh | 12:46 |
| knome | i hope so | 12:46 |
| slickymasterWork | knome, later on I'll need a quick how to | 12:47 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, sure | 12:47 |
| slickymasterWork | found it -> Pages | 12:48 |
| knome | ;) | 12:48 |
| knome | it's rather simple, isn't it? | 12:48 |
| slickymasterWork | yeaps | 12:48 |
| sidi | bluesabre, i'm in favour of the tarantula thing | 13:01 |
| Unit193 | ^ | 13:01 |
| elfy | ^ | 13:02 |
| bluesabre | :D | 13:03 |
| knome | :( | 13:03 |
| * bluesabre considers adding tarantulas to the next meeting agenda | 13:04 | |
| knome | silly people.. | 13:04 |
| elfy | generally | 13:05 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: did you integrate the lls logind switches for lock-on-suspend in the light-locker patch? | 13:10 |
| ochosi | for xfpm-settings i mean | 13:10 |
| knome | bbl | 13:50 |
| ochosi | pleia2: just a quick reminder, please don't forget to schedule our next community meeting! | 16:09 |
| slickymasterWork | wasn't it knome who was going to run it ochosi? | 16:15 |
| ochosi | oh, i just read on the meeting page that pleia2 is to schedule the next meeting | 16:16 |
| ochosi | since i wasn't there, i was relying on that #action | 16:16 |
| ochosi | but ofc i'm fine with knome running it | 16:16 |
| ochosi | knome: just a quick reminder, please don't forget to schedule our next community meeting! | 16:16 |
| ochosi | there you go, done | 16:16 |
| slickymasterWork | :) | 16:16 |
| knome | ochosi, no, pleia2 said she'd do it | 16:18 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, ^ | 16:18 |
| ochosi | i've pinged you both anyway, so nvm | 16:18 |
| knome | :) | 16:18 |
| slickymasterWork | sorry then knome, I was still with http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/01/14/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t22:32 in mind :P | 16:19 |
| knome | ochosi, you might have an idea for the question in #xubuntu | 16:20 |
| knome | so the staging site is nearer and nearer ready to be published | 16:21 |
| ochosi | nice | 16:33 |
| pleia2 | meeting scheduled, thanks for the reminder | 16:36 |
| ochosi | np and ty | 16:36 |
| slickymasterWork | heh pleia2, that's my mother birthday | 16:39 |
| elfy | almost surprised by my latest bug so far | 17:54 |
| elfy | move it one to something else | 17:54 |
| knome | bbl | 17:55 |
| elfy | pleia2: I started playing about with that poll pad btw, got 3 bits to it atm | 18:12 |
| pleia2 | cool, I'll have a look | 18:12 |
| elfy | right at the bottom | 18:13 |
| pleia2 | that's good | 18:13 |
| pleia2 | s/Unit/Robot though, just to be clear | 18:13 |
| pleia2 | :) | 18:14 |
| elfy | :) | 18:14 |
| elfy | I guess the thing is to give people time to look and then suggest changes - then just go for it | 18:15 |
| elfy | anything is better than what we have now probably | 18:16 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 18:16 |
| elfy | I'll add it to the agenda now | 18:16 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 18:16 |
| elfy | ok | 18:17 |
| elfy | ali1234: if you get time and/or interest could you have a look at bug 1412060 | 18:33 |
| ubottu | bug 1412060 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Indicator sound fails to start with Asus Xonar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1412060 | 18:33 |
| ochosi | oh hey ali1234 | 21:12 |
| ochosi | (and yeah, in case you were hiding from me, keep hiding, cause i'll ask you about orion again...) | 21:13 |
| elfy | evening ochosi | 21:13 |
| ochosi | hey there elfy | 21:13 |
| ali1234 | hi | 21:13 |
| ali1234 | what about orion? | 21:13 |
| ochosi | i tested your branch, looks good so far | 21:13 |
| ochosi | there are still a few commits missing | 21:13 |
| ali1234 | i skipped the ones that were later reverted :P | 21:14 |
| ochosi | i can point those out to you though if you want | 21:14 |
| ali1234 | sure | 21:14 |
| ochosi | this one is important: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Numix/commit/c119f55afee8adbc38a2d71b5f1ff44c5b50a60e | 21:14 |
| ochosi | and there is some flashing in the popover, let me see how i fixed that in greybird... | 21:15 |
| ali1234 | what's a popover? | 21:15 |
| ochosi | that's the menus that look like comic speech bubbles | 21:16 |
| ochosi | e.g. gnome-calculator has that | 21:16 |
| ali1234 | oh, those :( | 21:16 |
| ochosi | (of the apps we are shipping) | 21:16 |
| ochosi | so add that line, it'll take care of that: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commit/f4a479bb010cca1051cc9f7bab9c6e53179b16fe#diff-967752fff150bcb489813608b67c3e60R1421 | 21:16 |
| ali1234 | oh yeah, transitions | 21:17 |
| ochosi | yup | 21:17 |
| ochosi | and there are still nasty checkboxes in the menus | 21:17 |
| ali1234 | how does this css work btw? | 21:18 |
| ochosi | best to sync your gtk-widgets-assets with greybird, i fixed that there | 21:18 |
| ali1234 | what's the priority rule? | 21:18 |
| ali1234 | i already did that | 21:18 |
| ochosi | yeah, but then i fixed greybird some more | 21:18 |
| ochosi | https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commit/19624df20674a679c86952a533bfca5074b0fc39 | 21:18 |
| ochosi | i think i need a specific example for your question | 21:19 |
| ochosi | are there competing/duplicate styles? | 21:19 |
| ali1234 | if i write * { transition: none !important; } will it disable all transitions globally? | 21:19 |
| ochosi | afaik the one that comes later in the code overrides the previous one | 21:19 |
| ochosi | hm, right. with !important that might override everything | 21:20 |
| ali1234 | do elements have default styles? | 21:20 |
| ochosi | but i'm not using that at all | 21:20 |
| ali1234 | if i supply a completely empty css file what happens? | 21:20 |
| ochosi | not sure, adwaita might have (it's now baked into gtk3 as default) | 21:20 |
| ochosi | then you get adwaita | 21:20 |
| ochosi | as before you would've gotten raleigh | 21:20 |
| ochosi | lucky for you, adwaita is fairly close to orion | 21:20 |
| ali1234 | you know how css works in browsers right? | 21:20 |
| ali1234 | the most specific rule wins | 21:21 |
| ochosi | well, this is not the same css (at least not yet) | 21:21 |
| ochosi | yeah, that should also work here, at least i was presuming that when saying the later one counts | 21:21 |
| ochosi | i was assuming you had two identical rules | 21:21 |
| ali1234 | that would be silly :) | 21:21 |
| ochosi | well, i said i need an example, i thought that made it clear i had no idea what you were talking about :) | 21:22 |
| ali1234 | but the problem is that a generic rule like * {} will always be the least specific | 21:22 |
| ali1234 | if adwaita is built in, then which rule wins, the built in ones or a completely generic one like * {} | 21:23 |
| ali1234 | do the built in styles automatically have lowest priority? | 21:23 |
| ali1234 | that would be the sensible thing but this is gtk we are talking about | 21:23 |
| ochosi | i think whatever you put in the theme wins, but tbh i haven't started out with a blank theme in ages... | 21:24 |
| ochosi | yeah, that would be the most sensible and what i assumed so far | 21:24 |
| ochosi | but yeah, as you said, this is gtk | 21:25 |
| ochosi | ali1234: not sure what other commits you might be missing. since you renamed some of them, it might be best if you yourself skim greybird for missing ones | 21:36 |
| ochosi | the catfish one would be useful, but you can use the one i wrote for Numix, it's shorter than Greybird's and should do it for Orion | 21:37 |
| ali1234 | looking through the theme there's a lot of rules that look... pointless | 21:37 |
| * ochosi shrugs | 21:37 | |
| ochosi | we're working on a SASS rewrite, that'll clean up the code big time | 21:38 |
| ochosi | so far, it has just grown when people tried to fix stuff | 21:38 |
| ochosi | so basically, with every gtk3 release since gtk3.6 | 21:38 |
| ochosi | weee, corner-tiling in xfwm4 | 21:49 |
| pleia2 | knome: I already added the meeting to the calendar so now there are 2 :) | 21:51 |
| knome | hmm.. | 21:51 |
| pleia2 | (I added it when I scheduled the meeting) | 21:51 |
| knome | wonder why i didn't see that | 21:51 |
| knome | deleted the other one | 21:52 |
| knome | guess i should make calendars are synced from now on | 21:52 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 21:52 |
| knome | anybody else hate when images in planet ubuntu span over the content area? | 21:52 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I told the community team to make the code we're using for planet be in a public place so we could submit patches against it to fix things like that, mhall119 said he'd work on it | 21:54 |
| pleia2 | this exists, but we can't do MPs on it I think https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-isd-hackers/ubuntu-website/light-planet-theme2 | 21:54 |
| knome | we surely can | 21:55 |
| pleia2 | oh ok | 21:55 |
| knome | but doing it the right way is an arts of itself | 21:55 |
| knome | or creating a branch that lets us do a merge proposal, to put it other way.. | 21:55 |
| pleia2 | he said "I'm asking the web-team to get this put into a proper LP project so we can start taking those patches popey mentioned" | 21:55 |
| pleia2 | so I wasn't sure | 21:55 |
| knome | right | 21:56 |
| knome | anyway, you can technically create a MP for any branch in LP | 21:56 |
| knome | if you know how to do it | 21:56 |
| knome | that's not the problem :) | 21:56 |
| pleia2 | well, first problem was finding that link :) | 21:56 |
| Unit193 | knome: I'd have to read planet Ubuntu for that. | 22:06 |
| brainwash | ochosi: finally something works -> last comment in "the" xfpm report | 22:15 |
| ochosi | brainwash: you mean late-locking? | 22:25 |
| brainwash | ochosi: yes, we need to stay on vt7 the whole time, and only switch to vt8 on resume | 22:26 |
| Unit193 | Yes. | 22:26 |
| ochosi | Unit193: ? | 22:26 |
| brainwash | otherwise strange things will happen | 22:26 |
| ochosi | yeah, this method was just previously criticised for not being "safe enough", otherwise i guess we'd have set it as default all along | 22:27 |
| ochosi | and yeah, as you pointed out, a direct call for late-locking might be needed | 22:27 |
| brainwash | mmh, won't this even make logind-handle-lid-switch=true obsolete? | 22:29 |
| brainwash | which is our fix for the blank screen bug | 22:30 |
| ochosi | well, not really, since late-locking is an option, not compulsory | 22:31 |
| ochosi | and it did work for many people, just not for all | 22:31 |
| brainwash | it does work, but the implementation is incomplete in xfpm/lls | 22:32 |
| brainwash | meaning some use cases are broken | 22:33 |
| sidi | why would you create a Member of Parliament? | 22:36 |
| * sidi lurks back into the darkness. | 22:36 | |
| brainwash | ochosi: so, late-locking needs to be re-implemented, similar to how it reacts to the logind dbus suspend/resume signals | 22:36 |
| brainwash | ochosi: some way to ensure that it 1) locks the user session 2) switches to the greeter screen | 22:37 |
| brainwash | but not in 1 step | 22:37 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: can you do the packaging for bug 1292290 (trusty, maybe utopic)? | 22:42 |
| ubottu | bug 1292290 in xfce4-settings "Window manager keybindings don't work after reboot" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292290 | 22:42 |
| brainwash | we just need to pick this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/543/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml | 22:44 |
| brainwash | and sync this update xml to trusty/utopic | 22:44 |
| brainwash | there were no other changes, only my keybind fixes | 22:45 |
| brainwash | I'll write the SRU then | 22:46 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: will be working on that tonight | 23:07 |
| Unit193 | Ach dangit. What did you folks decide on ubiquity? I want to get rid of this ubiquity/ directory already. :P | 23:09 |
| Unit193 | xfdesktop good enough? | 23:09 |
| bluesabre | lol | 23:09 |
| bluesabre | whatever works at this point... if xfdesktop can work, let's do what it takes to make it so | 23:10 |
| knome | Unit193, you can do merge proposals for both options | 23:10 |
| knome | well i heard feh would have some pros. | 23:10 |
| knome | like not being able to access the deskop | 23:10 |
| knome | +t | 23:10 |
| Unit193 | knome: "Double" the work, so not really looking to do that. | 23:10 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: will take care of that probably tonight, go ahead and document the SRU | 23:10 |
| knome | Unit193, i know, i was just kidding. | 23:10 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: if we have the xfdesktop fix, let's take that route :) | 23:11 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Fantastic, want a diff to review before I do something with it? | 23:11 |
| bluesabre | we'll need a month to merge it into ubiquity proper anyway ;) | 23:11 |
| bluesabre | yes please | 23:11 |
| bluesabre | y'all keep me busy :) | 23:12 |
| knome | of course | 23:12 |
| knome | consider what the situation would be like if we didn't have somebody with upload rights | 23:12 |
| knome | ugh. | 23:12 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: http://paste.openstack.org/show/CXWFBGiAJGtUvka8KtCS/ | 23:14 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Keep in mind, any comments on style are good, I don't know python a lick. | 23:14 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, i'm still trying not to remember what that was like... | 23:17 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: We can reenact it. | 23:17 |
| ochosi | Unit193: ok, you start by filing a MR against ubiquity! | 23:17 |
| knome | ;) | 23:17 |
| * Unit193 stabs ochosi. | 23:17 | |
| * ochosi bleeds and says "aaaaaaarggh..." | 23:18 | |
| ochosi | (with which i'm ofc referring to the famous castle of "aaaaaaarggh...") | 23:18 |
| knome | :P | 23:18 |
| ochosi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlIz0q8aWpA (it's aramaic! ofc!) | 23:19 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: looks good | 23:24 |
| Unit193 | Oh right, what's that bug number? | 23:28 |
| ochosi | Unit193: linked to v-bugs blueprint | 23:28 |
| Unit193 | Alright, hit a page on the wiki and the error message is "No tienes permisos para editar esta página." | 23:29 |
| ochosi | not logged in? | 23:30 |
| Unit193 | Right, but I'm still in America, you'd think it'd give me a message I could read. :P | 23:31 |
| bluesabre | No necesitas editar esta página | 23:32 |
| ochosi | Unit193: wait, you did read that! you were even able to write it in here | 23:32 |
| bluesabre | haha | 23:34 |
| Unit193 | :3 | 23:37 |
| Unit193 | OK, did it for you: https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/ubiquity/xfdesktop_background/+merge/247076 | 23:39 |
| Unit193 | (http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/234/137/5c4.jpg) | 23:39 |
| ochosi | Unit193: did you request bluesabre and me to review directly when submitting the MR or after submitting in a second step? | 23:41 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: When submitting, why? | 23:41 |
| ochosi | uh-oh :/ | 23:41 |
| Unit193 | Problem, officer? | 23:41 |
| ochosi | if you do that, the default team isn't subscribed and then it doesn't show up in the sponsors queue | 23:42 |
| ochosi | found out about that yesterday | 23:42 |
| ochosi | even folks in u-desktop didn't know about that | 23:42 |
| Unit193 | Meh. | 23:42 |
| ochosi | not sure how you can best fix that | 23:43 |
| knome | subscribe the default team? | 23:43 |
| ochosi | either manually subscribe the ubuntu installer team (or whoever else would be in charge by default) | 23:43 |
| ochosi | or resubmit | 23:43 |
| ochosi | knome: well i'm not sure whether option 1) makes it show up in the sponsors queue | 23:44 |
| ochosi | but it's worth a try | 23:44 |
| knome | why wouldn't it | 23:44 |
| ochosi | i dunno, there are some issues with the sponsors queue | 23:44 |
| knome | heh | 23:44 |
| knome | sherlock | 23:45 |
| knome | ;)= | 23:45 |
| ochosi | it's not picking up everything it should | 23:45 |
| ochosi | well, you go ahead and talk to dholbach about that again if you want | 23:45 |
| knome | i don't see any reason why LP wouldn't inform the team if you ask for a review from them | 23:45 |
| bluesabre | yup | 23:47 |
| ochosi | yeah, but if Unit193 asks me and bluesabre for a review, the MR still won't show up in the sponsors queue | 23:47 |
| knome | whether other triggers, like adding stuff to external queues, happen, is a different thing | 23:47 |
| ochosi | even if either of us had upload rights for ubiquity | 23:47 |
| knome | ochosi, of course since sponsores aren't asked for a review | 23:47 |
| knome | -e | 23:47 |
| bluesabre | just sub ubuntu-sponsors | 23:48 |
| bluesabre | its a good way to annoy them to respond | 23:48 |
| knome | yes.. | 23:48 |
| Unit193 | I was going to go for xnox. :P | 23:48 |
| bluesabre | :> | 23:48 |
| ochosi | good call :_) | 23:48 |
| bluesabre | or dholbach, he likes us lately | 23:48 |
| bluesabre | laney too | 23:49 |
| Unit193 | I just need a MOTU, not core-dev. | 23:49 |
| ochosi | xubuntu-team is everybody's darling | 23:49 |
| knome | i guess people have lately started noticing how well we are organized | 23:50 |
| knome | go ochosi ;> | 23:50 |
| Unit193 | I thought we were the redheaded stepchild. | 23:50 |
| ochosi | Unit193: we are, but people are taking pity on us | 23:50 |
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