[00:16] <Nixus> Have an issue. Whenever I extract a zip in thunar, it works, but the archive manager crashes. Any ideas? thanks!
[00:38] <Nixus> anyone know of a way to display your wifi status besides in a panel?
[00:38] <Nixus> thanks
[00:39] <knome> like where?
[00:41] <Nixus> popup notification? have one for my battery that came default.
[00:41] <knome> what wifi status are you exactly wishing to see there?
[00:41] <knome> you will get notifications when you are dis/connected
[00:42] <Nixus> yeh, wifi status. sorry if this is a stupid question
[00:43] <knome> i don't understand what you are expecting to see there
[00:43] <knome> constant notifications of the signal quality?
[00:44] <Nixus> like for 5 seconds.
[00:45] <Nixus> like when you change the volume, it shows you how many volume bars there are. like a popup like that
[00:45] <Nixus> custom shortcut*
[00:47] <knome> you still haven't told me what kind of status you would like to see there
[00:49] <Nixus> bars
[00:49] <Nixus> kinda like in the panel
[01:08] <Nixus> ?
[06:13] <janusli> hi
[07:05] <Tadurin> I'm having an issue where I get a blank screen after unlocking the screen. Anybody heard of that?
[07:13] <louigi> Guys, I am on Xubuntu 12.04
[07:13] <louigi> Since like 2-3 weeks ago my update manager allows Partial Upgrade only
[07:13] <louigi> What could it be?
[07:30] <xubuntu70w> :-*
[07:40] <louigi> Guys, I am on Xubuntu 12.04
[07:40] <louigi> Since like 2-3 weeks ago my update manager allows Partial Upgrade only
[07:40] <louigi> Guys, I am on Xubuntu 12.04
[07:40] <louigi> What could it be?
[07:40] <louigi> Sorry for duplicating
[07:40] <louigi> I got disconnected and decided to ask again
[07:51] <Tadurin> http://xubuntu.org/news/laptop-users-fix-available-for-the-black-screen-on-unlock-bug/
[07:51] <Tadurin> This might help. :)
[08:14] <elfy> louigi: try running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in a terminal then paste the whole lot
[08:14] <elfy> !paste
[08:15] <louigi> elfy: for a while I had a "Upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04" sign. Now I don't have it. I am afraid that by accident it started upgrading, but never completed. I do not remember ever pressing thaty button and I do not want to upgrade to 14.04
[08:15] <louigi> Will run commands now
[08:16] <cfhowlett> elfy, ... run the commands and send them to paste as requested.
[08:17] <cfhowlett> elfy, note: none of those commands will upgrade to 14.04
[08:17] <elfy> cfhowlett: hi there - bit late for me anyway as I'm running 15.04 - but lougi might like to know :)
[08:18] <louigi> cfhowlett: yeah, I am the one asking... Sec, guys, almost done
[08:18] <cfhowlett> I got it twisted ... sorry.
[08:18] <louigi> http://pastebin.com/hSLtxcBp
[08:18] <louigi> there you go
[08:19] <elfy> cfhowlett: it's ok - we're all friends here :)
[08:19] <louigi> I dod not paste the whole list of link lists
[08:19] <elfy> louigi: run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:21] <louigi> running... it downloads stuff
[08:25] <elfy> good start that
[08:25] <elfy> I gtg - work
[08:39] <xubuntu91o> xubuntu 14.10 installation CDs come first start running the other options. so it does not start the installation. Can you help?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> !details | xubuntu91o,
[08:43] <louigi> cfhowlett: asks to reboot )
[08:43] <louigi> proceeding...
[08:44] <cfhowlett> louigi, excellent
[08:44] <louigi> cfhowlett: I have a Lenovo laptop that has a proprietary wifi module
[08:45] <louigi> Although I bought this laptop becuase it was Ubuntu certified
[08:45] <cfhowlett> louigi, ?  lenovo generally works great with ubuntu.
[08:45] <louigi> after some linux kernel version wifi module proprietary drivers stopped building
[08:45] <louigi> So I have to log in to older kernel if I need wifi
[08:45] <louigi> pity...
[08:45] <cfhowlett> louigi, dist-upgrade should fix that or else get the drivers from lenovo
[08:47] <louigi> cfhowlett: it did not
[08:47] <louigi> when you upgrade kernel what usually happens is the build crashes
[08:47] <louigi> it happened now as well
[08:47] <cfhowlett> louigi, wifi replacement cards are cheap on amazon ...
[08:47] <louigi> rebooting and will be back
[08:55] <xubuntu91o> I downloaded the file xubuntu 14.10 desktop i386. I create a USB boot. I put the laptop USB. I chose the option to install Xubuntu computer. but shows "other, username, password" asks. I install xubuntu first time. I "other" did not create. I do not know english very well. I am writing with online translation. Can you help please? My toshiba satellite M70 laptops models - 122
[09:25] <louigi> cfhowlett: hey
[09:25] <louigi> rebooted
[09:25] <louigi> several apps are missing now
[09:25] <louigi> and do not want to get installed
[09:25] <cfhowlett> louigi, what does lsb_release -a tell you
[09:25] <louigi> LSB Version: core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch
[09:26] <louigi> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[09:26] <louigi> Description: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[09:26] <louigi> Release: 12.04
[09:26] <louigi> Codename: precise
[09:26] <cfhowlett> louigi, and you rebooted?
[09:26] <louigi> yes sir
[09:26] <cfhowlett> what is missing?
[09:27] <louigi> for example, OpenShot video editor. I have bitlbee installed (an irc thing), it does not work now as well, it loads, but I cannot get to it, which is crucial because it loads my work jabber
[09:27] <louigi> Is there any way to revert dist-updgrade?
[09:27] <louigi> installing openshot back does not work
[09:28] <cfhowlett> louigi, no reversion ... what error messages?
[09:28] <louigi> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/hzNC2Vnk
[09:32] <louigi> maaan
[09:32] <louigi> I was afraid something would go wrong
[09:32] <louigi> Now I am unable to get to my work jabber and I have no idea what's going on
[09:33] <cfhowlett> louigi, copy the following and save in your home folder as .pastebinit.xml           so your pastes go to ubuntu paste service.  I can't see default pastebinit
[09:33] <cfhowlett> http://fpaste.org/171821/
[09:34] <louigi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9792945/
[09:36] <cfhowlett> louigi, sudo apt-get -f install | pastebinit            might fix
[09:36] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get install -f
[09:38] <cfhowlett> louigi, and then http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/04/how-to-fix-broken-packages-in-ubuntu-or-debian/
[12:51] <potless> Hi all, I'm trying to find Stormcloud in order to auto-start it from a reboot, but I cannot find the executable it's not in usr/bin, anyone else using it?
[12:56] <brainwash> potless: how did you install this application?
[12:56] <potless> from the software centre
[12:58] <brainwash> potless: you can use "dpkg -L <package>" to get a list of the package content
[12:58] <potless> I'll try it now.
[13:00] <brainwash> I would also think, that just using "stormcloud" as command for your autostart launcher should work
[13:01] <potless> its in /opt/stormcloud
[13:01] <potless> there is a stormcloud.py too
[13:02] <brainwash> so, are you able to launch it?
[13:02] <potless> yes :)
[13:02] <brainwash> great :)
[13:02] <potless> Brilliant thnx
[13:03] <brainwash> you're welcome
[14:21] <xangua> louigi: do you have proposed updates enabled?
[16:17] <Israphel> someone else had a sudden systray glitch today?
[16:17] <Israphel> http://i.imgur.com/JFxTEcd.png
[16:18] <cfhowlett> Israphel, "hidden"  ??? that's not hidden.
[16:18] <Israphel> I didn't say hidden
[16:18] <Israphel> I said glitch
[16:18] <cfhowlett> Israphel, OK ... what glitch?
[16:19] <Israphel> as you can see, it now has a grey background
[16:19] <cfhowlett> Israphel, ... check your appearance settings
[16:19] <knome> Israphel, try relaunching the panel.
[16:19] <Israphel> even if I switch the theme
[16:20] <Israphel> I killed the panel and started it again, same problem
[16:20] <Israphel> I removed the notification area and added it again, same problem
[16:21] <ochosi> yeah, that's a problem with the theme not supporting the gtk3 version you're using
[16:21] <ochosi> looks like albatross
[16:21] <Israphel> only the "indicator plugin" is broken
[16:21] <Israphel> notification area works ok
[16:21] <ochosi> yeah
[16:21] <ochosi> that's because that part is gtk3
[16:22] <Israphel> I'm using greybird
[16:22] <ochosi> so what version of gtk3/ubuntu/greybird are you using
[16:22] <Israphel> xubuntu 14.04.1
[16:22] <Israphel> as is
[16:22] <Israphel> up to date
[16:23] <Israphel> which gtk3 package should I check?
[16:23] <Israphel> libgtk-3-0:amd64                            3.14.7-0ubuntu1~14.04~ricotz0
[16:24] <ochosi> yeah, that is *not* 14.04 as is
[16:24] <ochosi> that is a totally different gtk3 version
[16:24] <ochosi> anyway, you'll need a newer version of greybird to cope with that
[16:25] <ochosi> so either grab greybird 1.5.1 from github and extract the theme folder to /usr/share/themes or add the shimmer daily PPA
[16:25] <Israphel> I'm not sure where I got a different gtk3 version
[16:26] <Israphel> yesterday I compiled an nodejs app
[16:26] <Israphel> so that shimmer ppa stores themes?
[16:26] <octoid> Anyone know if there is an easy way to combine the toram boot option with persistant so that the overlayfs is saved to physical media?
[16:27] <ochosi> Israphel: you likely added a PPA that holds that newer gtk3 version, nodejs is unrelated
[16:27] <Israphel> ochosi: maybe the PPA for the Elementary Greeter
[16:27] <ochosi> yeah, very likely
[16:27] <Israphel> but I added that the very first day
[16:27] <ochosi> yeah, maybe you didn't notice the update at first
[16:27] <Israphel> "shimmer-themes" has a new graybird?
[16:28] <ochosi> this does: https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/ubuntu/daily
[16:28] <Israphel> cool, let's see
[16:28] <ochosi> (as is explained in the PPA description, yes, it contains greybird too)
[16:30] <Israphel> what should I do to apply the new theme, relog?
[16:31] <ochosi> yeah, just restart your session
[16:32] <Israphel> well new theme version didn't fix it
[16:33] <ochosi> what version of shimmer-themes do you have now?
[16:34] <ochosi> ("apt-cache policy shimmer-themes | grep Installed")
[16:34] <brainwash> will the trusty package from the ppa install the fixes for gtk3 3.14?
[16:34] <Israphel> 201410281941~ubuntu14.04.1~gtk3.12
[16:34] <ochosi> brainwash: good point, i guess that would've been the next follow-up ;)
[16:34] <Israphel> what about this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Trusty/Gtk3Indicators
[16:35] <ochosi> that is unrelated
[16:35] <ochosi> just install the theme by hand from github then: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/archive/v1.5.1.tar.gz
[16:35] <Israphel> but the problem wasn't: "Gtk3 indicators in a Gtk2 Xfce-Panel" ?
[16:36] <ochosi> either way, the theme is always optimised for one release and its gtk3 version, if you're using a mix, you're on your own
[16:36] <Israphel> opening fileroller I do release gtk3 changed a lot
[16:37] <Israphel> realize*
[16:38] <Israphel> the tar from github worked
[16:38] <Israphel> what was the difference between that one and the ppa one
[16:39] <ochosi> ppa one is for gtk3.12, git master is for gtk3.14
[16:46] <Israphel> so ppa daily is not that daily
[16:48] <octoid> There are a lot of not so daily ppa daily :)
[16:48] <Israphel> looks like the elementary greeter one is more than daily, but it's so cute
[17:18] <Awen> hi guys. I just installed Xubuntu 14.10 which uses Linux Kernel 3.16. Is it safe to install Linux 3.18 to replace 3.16?
[17:19] <Awen> I tried doing this with Ubuntu 14.10, but after reboot, Unity would crash
[17:19] <knome> why do you need the newer kernel?
[17:20] <Awen> hardware support
[17:20] <Awen> I assume 3.8 has better drivers for ATI graphics
[17:20] <Awen> and Catalyst
[17:20] <knome> assuming isn't the same as reality
[17:21] <Israphel> did you check Phoronix?
[17:21] <knome> anyway, if you install it from a PPA, it's at your own risk
[17:21] <knome> same with non-repository packages
[17:21] <Awen> so it is not recommended? Coming from Manjaro, I am used to replacing my kernel with new ones
[17:21] <Awen> and Manjaro is designed for it
[17:22] <Awen> not sure if it can be done with Ubuntu based distros
[17:22] <knome> Awen, if it's in the repository, then it's supposed to work. if not, then there is no guarantee
[17:24] <Awen> I see. On a different note, Xubuntu boot splash is very cool. It still is during power down, but it is still in verbose mode with texts overlapping the blue xubuntu splash
[17:24] <Awen> is this normal?
[17:24] <knome> thanks. some of that is caused by drivers and we can't affect it
[17:25] <knome> i wouldn't worry about it too much
[17:25] <Awen> I see. Thanks for your help.
[17:25] <Skaftafells> Hello to all of you, i need some help: my laptop touchpad doesn't work anymore, although it is enabled in settings>mouse. I can work with my external mouse, but i would prefer get the touchpad back. Suggestions welcome - thank you!
[17:25] <knome> Skaftafells, "anymore" meaning after what?
[17:26] <akis> hi all. i made a custom action in thunar to shred and delete files according the documantation here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunarCustomActions. the strange think is that right click context menu shows 'shred and delete' on several files only (according the extention i suppose) and clicking on any file. why? any idea?
[17:26] <Skaftafells> knome, after years of working, i cannot say what has changed, maybe an update
[17:27] <knome> Skaftafells, are you sure you haven't pressed the keyboard combo to disable the touchpad?
[17:28] <knome> Skaftafells, does it work when you unplug your mouse?
[17:29] <Skaftafells> knome, in fact, it was the keybord combo. excuse me for my little bit stupid request... and thanxx a lot
[17:29] <knome> no problem
[17:30] <knome> akis, why what? i didn't understand the question
[17:32] <akis> knome: why 'shred and delete' option appears on any right click only over ie html files and not on any other file ie pdf, odt etc
[17:33] <knome> akis, did you look what the appearance conditions for the custom action sya?
[17:33] <knome> *say
[17:34] <akis> knome: where can i find these conditions to look at them?
[17:35] <knome> open the custom actions edit menu, choose the custom action and click the edit button to get the dialog open
[17:35] <akis> knome: oh! wait. i am looking at thme now.
[17:36] <akis> knome: i didn't see the 2nd tab!
[17:37] <knome> akis, consider consulting an optician :P
[17:37] <akis> knome: now works ok. thanks.
[17:37] <knome> you're welcome
[17:37] <akis> knome: -:)
[17:38] <akis> knome: i copied this command from the documentation 'zenity --question;if [$? = 0];then shred -fuz %F;fi". do you know if it is enough to permanently erase the file?
[17:39] <knome> that's outside my expertise
[17:45] <akis> knome: ok. i followed these instructions http://crunchbang.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=17877. i hope they are OK.
[18:17] <rosaecaeruleae> what is the lost and found directory for?
[18:18] <elfy> fsck uses it afaik - http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/18154/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-lostfound-folder-in-linux-and-unix
[18:19] <rosaecaeruleae> ok...
[20:40] <Athena_> Hi guys! Does anybody know if Xubuntu have some sort of kernel upgrade utility like Linux Mint?
[20:42] <xangua> why do you want or need to upgrade your kernel? what *ubuntu relase?
[20:42] <Athena_> why not?
[20:43] <Athena_> I just assume that Linux318 has better AMD GPU support
[20:43] <Athena_> you know, better drivers and better Catalyst support
[20:43] <Athena_> unless it's exactly the same with 3.16
[20:44] <bekks> Which kernel upgrade utility besides "apt-get" does Mint have? :)
[20:45] <Athena_> well what is the bash equivalent of Mint's kernel update module, the one that can be found in Mint's System Update module
[20:46] <xangua> you tell us (¿)
[20:47] <Athena_> okaay, you're really confusing me  O_o
[20:47] <elfy> Athena_: we don't necessarily have the slightest idea what Mint might do is what they're saying :)
[20:47] <Athena_> okay then let's make this simpler. Is it possible to list all available kernels that can be installed in Xubuntu?
[20:48] <xangua> what *ubuntu release?
[20:48] <bekks> Sure. apt-cache is your friend :)
[20:48] <Athena_> does it work like Manjaro's pacman-kernel -li ?
[20:48] <Athena_> if you've ever tried Manjaro, that is
[20:49] <Athena_> oh wait wrong command :P
[20:49] <xangua> then you should know manjaro is a rolling release distro, ubuntu is not
[20:49] <xangua> !info linux-generic
[20:50] <Athena_> yes it is a rolling release but the kernel update is completely optional
[20:51] <bekks> And the same applies to Ubuntu.
[20:51] <elfy> Athena_: this is the same issue that someone called Awen asked earlier - you the same person?
[20:51] <Athena_> really? I just got here.  O_O
[20:52] <elfy> Awen (ca511e10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.81.30.16) has joined #xubuntu
[20:52] <elfy> Athena_ (ca511e10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.81.30.16) has joined #xubuntu
[20:53] <bekks> You've been caught red handed I guess ;)
[20:53] <elfy> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/01/20/%23xubuntu.html#t17:18
[20:53] <elfy> there - the same information's going to apply I would think
[22:13] <Wlsonjl3> hey guys, whats a program to but OS images onto a usb drive?
[22:13] <knome> !unetbootin | Wlsonjl3
[22:18] <Wlsonjl3> thanks knomw
[22:18] <Wlsonjl3> knome