[00:16] <Nixus> Have an issue. Whenever I extract a zip in thunar, it works, but the archive manager crashes. Any ideas? thanks!
[00:38] <Nixus> anyone know of a way to display your wifi status besides in a panel?
[00:38] <Nixus> thanks
[00:39] <knome> like where?
[00:41] <Nixus> popup notification? have one for my battery that came default.
[00:41] <knome> what wifi status are you exactly wishing to see there?
[00:41] <knome> you will get notifications when you are dis/connected
[00:42] <Nixus> yeh, wifi status. sorry if this is a stupid question
[00:43] <knome> i don't understand what you are expecting to see there
[00:43] <knome> constant notifications of the signal quality?
[00:44] <Nixus> like for 5 seconds.
[00:45] <Nixus> like when you change the volume, it shows you how many volume bars there are. like a popup like that
[00:45] <Nixus> custom shortcut*
[00:47] <knome> you still haven't told me what kind of status you would like to see there
[00:49] <Nixus> bars
[00:49] <Nixus> kinda like in the panel
[01:08] <Nixus> ?
[06:13] <janusli> hi
[07:05] <Tadurin> I'm having an issue where I get a blank screen after unlocking the screen. Anybody heard of that?
[07:13] <louigi> Guys, I am on Xubuntu 12.04
[07:13] <louigi> Since like 2-3 weeks ago my update manager allows Partial Upgrade only
[07:13] <louigi> What could it be?
[07:30] <xubuntu70w> :-*
[07:40] <louigi> Guys, I am on Xubuntu 12.04
[07:40] <louigi> Since like 2-3 weeks ago my update manager allows Partial Upgrade only
[07:40] <louigi> Guys, I am on Xubuntu 12.04
[07:40] <louigi> What could it be?
[07:40] <louigi> Sorry for duplicating
[07:40] <louigi> I got disconnected and decided to ask again
[07:51] <Tadurin> http://xubuntu.org/news/laptop-users-fix-available-for-the-black-screen-on-unlock-bug/
[07:51] <Tadurin> This might help. :)
[08:14] <elfy> louigi: try running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in a terminal then paste the whole lot
[08:14] <elfy> !paste
[08:14] <ubottu> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[08:15] <louigi> elfy: for a while I had a "Upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04" sign. Now I don't have it. I am afraid that by accident it started upgrading, but never completed. I do not remember ever pressing thaty button and I do not want to upgrade to 14.04
[08:15] <louigi> Will run commands now
[08:16] <cfhowlett> elfy, ... run the commands and send them to paste as requested.
[08:17] <cfhowlett> elfy, note: none of those commands will upgrade to 14.04
[08:17] <elfy> cfhowlett: hi there - bit late for me anyway as I'm running 15.04 - but lougi might like to know :)
[08:18] <louigi> cfhowlett: yeah, I am the one asking... Sec, guys, almost done
[08:18] <cfhowlett> I got it twisted ... sorry.
[08:18] <louigi> http://pastebin.com/hSLtxcBp
[08:18] <louigi> there you go
[08:19] <elfy> cfhowlett: it's ok - we're all friends here :)
[08:19] <louigi> I dod not paste the whole list of link lists
[08:19] <elfy> louigi: run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:21] <louigi> running... it downloads stuff
[08:25] <elfy> good start that
[08:25] <elfy> I gtg - work
[08:39] <xubuntu91o> xubuntu 14.10 installation CDs come first start running the other options. so it does not start the installation. Can you help?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> !details | xubuntu91o,
[08:40] <ubottu> xubuntu91o,: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[08:43] <louigi> cfhowlett: asks to reboot )
[08:43] <louigi> proceeding...
[08:44] <cfhowlett> louigi, excellent
[08:44] <louigi> cfhowlett: I have a Lenovo laptop that has a proprietary wifi module
[08:45] <louigi> Although I bought this laptop becuase it was Ubuntu certified
[08:45] <cfhowlett> louigi, ?  lenovo generally works great with ubuntu.
[08:45] <louigi> after some linux kernel version wifi module proprietary drivers stopped building
[08:45] <louigi> So I have to log in to older kernel if I need wifi
[08:45] <louigi> pity...
[08:45] <cfhowlett> louigi, dist-upgrade should fix that or else get the drivers from lenovo
[08:47] <louigi> cfhowlett: it did not
[08:47] <louigi> when you upgrade kernel what usually happens is the build crashes
[08:47] <louigi> it happened now as well
[08:47] <cfhowlett> louigi, wifi replacement cards are cheap on amazon ...
[08:47] <louigi> rebooting and will be back
[08:55] <xubuntu91o> I downloaded the file xubuntu 14.10 desktop i386. I create a USB boot. I put the laptop USB. I chose the option to install Xubuntu computer. but shows "other, username, password" asks. I install xubuntu first time. I "other" did not create. I do not know english very well. I am writing with online translation. Can you help please? My toshiba satellite M70 laptops models - 122
[09:25] <louigi> cfhowlett: hey
[09:25] <louigi> rebooted
[09:25] <louigi> several apps are missing now
[09:25] <louigi> and do not want to get installed
[09:25] <cfhowlett> louigi, what does lsb_release -a tell you
[09:25] <louigi> LSB Version: core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch
[09:26] <louigi> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[09:26] <louigi> Description: Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[09:26] <louigi> Release: 12.04
[09:26] <louigi> Codename: precise
[09:26] <cfhowlett> louigi, and you rebooted?
[09:26] <louigi> yes sir
[09:26] <cfhowlett> what is missing?
[09:27] <louigi> for example, OpenShot video editor. I have bitlbee installed (an irc thing), it does not work now as well, it loads, but I cannot get to it, which is crucial because it loads my work jabber
[09:27] <louigi> Is there any way to revert dist-updgrade?
[09:27] <louigi> installing openshot back does not work
[09:28] <cfhowlett> louigi, no reversion ... what error messages?
[09:28] <louigi> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/hzNC2Vnk
[09:32] <louigi> maaan
[09:32] <louigi> I was afraid something would go wrong
[09:32] <louigi> Now I am unable to get to my work jabber and I have no idea what's going on
[09:33] <cfhowlett> louigi, copy the following and save in your home folder as .pastebinit.xml           so your pastes go to ubuntu paste service.  I can't see default pastebinit
[09:33] <cfhowlett> http://fpaste.org/171821/
[09:34] <louigi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9792945/
[09:36] <cfhowlett> louigi, sudo apt-get -f install | pastebinit            might fix
[09:36] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get install -f
[09:38] <cfhowlett> louigi, and then http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/04/how-to-fix-broken-packages-in-ubuntu-or-debian/
[12:51] <potless> Hi all, I'm trying to find Stormcloud in order to auto-start it from a reboot, but I cannot find the executable it's not in usr/bin, anyone else using it?
[12:56] <brainwash> potless: how did you install this application?
[12:56] <potless> from the software centre
[12:58] <brainwash> potless: you can use "dpkg -L <package>" to get a list of the package content
[12:58] <potless> I'll try it now.
[13:00] <brainwash> I would also think, that just using "stormcloud" as command for your autostart launcher should work
[13:01] <potless> its in /opt/stormcloud
[13:01] <potless> there is a stormcloud.py too
[13:02] <brainwash> so, are you able to launch it?
[13:02] <potless> yes :)
[13:02] <brainwash> great :)
[13:02] <potless> Brilliant thnx
[13:03] <brainwash> you're welcome
[14:21] <xangua> louigi: do you have proposed updates enabled?
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[16:17] <Israphel> someone else had a sudden systray glitch today?
[16:17] <Israphel> http://i.imgur.com/JFxTEcd.png
[16:18] <cfhowlett> Israphel, "hidden"  ??? that's not hidden.
[16:18] <Israphel> I didn't say hidden
[16:18] <Israphel> I said glitch
[16:18] <cfhowlett> Israphel, OK ... what glitch?
[16:19] <Israphel> as you can see, it now has a grey background
[16:19] <cfhowlett> Israphel, ... check your appearance settings
[16:19] <knome> Israphel, try relaunching the panel.
[16:19] <Israphel> even if I switch the theme
[16:20] <Israphel> I killed the panel and started it again, same problem
[16:20] <Israphel> I removed the notification area and added it again, same problem
[16:21] <ochosi> yeah, that's a problem with the theme not supporting the gtk3 version you're using
[16:21] <ochosi> looks like albatross
[16:21] <Israphel> only the "indicator plugin" is broken
[16:21] <Israphel> notification area works ok
[16:21] <ochosi> yeah
[16:21] <ochosi> that's because that part is gtk3
[16:22] <Israphel> I'm using greybird
[16:22] <ochosi> so what version of gtk3/ubuntu/greybird are you using
[16:22] <Israphel> xubuntu 14.04.1
[16:22] <Israphel> as is
[16:22] <Israphel> up to date
[16:23] <Israphel> which gtk3 package should I check?
[16:23] <Israphel> libgtk-3-0:amd64                            3.14.7-0ubuntu1~14.04~ricotz0
[16:24] <ochosi> yeah, that is *not* 14.04 as is
[16:24] <ochosi> that is a totally different gtk3 version
[16:24] <ochosi> anyway, you'll need a newer version of greybird to cope with that
[16:25] <ochosi> so either grab greybird 1.5.1 from github and extract the theme folder to /usr/share/themes or add the shimmer daily PPA
[16:25] <Israphel> I'm not sure where I got a different gtk3 version
[16:26] <Israphel> yesterday I compiled an nodejs app
[16:26] <Israphel> so that shimmer ppa stores themes?
[16:26] <octoid> Anyone know if there is an easy way to combine the toram boot option with persistant so that the overlayfs is saved to physical media?
[16:27] <ochosi> Israphel: you likely added a PPA that holds that newer gtk3 version, nodejs is unrelated
[16:27] <Israphel> ochosi: maybe the PPA for the Elementary Greeter
[16:27] <ochosi> yeah, very likely
[16:27] <Israphel> but I added that the very first day
[16:27] <ochosi> yeah, maybe you didn't notice the update at first
[16:27] <Israphel> "shimmer-themes" has a new graybird?
[16:28] <ochosi> this does: https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/ubuntu/daily
[16:28] <Israphel> cool, let's see
[16:28] <ochosi> (as is explained in the PPA description, yes, it contains greybird too)
[16:30] <Israphel> what should I do to apply the new theme, relog?
[16:31] <ochosi> yeah, just restart your session
[16:32] <Israphel> well new theme version didn't fix it
[16:33] <ochosi> what version of shimmer-themes do you have now?
[16:34] <ochosi> ("apt-cache policy shimmer-themes | grep Installed")
[16:34] <brainwash> will the trusty package from the ppa install the fixes for gtk3 3.14?
[16:34] <Israphel> 201410281941~ubuntu14.04.1~gtk3.12
[16:34] <ochosi> brainwash: good point, i guess that would've been the next follow-up ;)
[16:34] <Israphel> what about this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Trusty/Gtk3Indicators
[16:35] <ochosi> that is unrelated
[16:35] <ochosi> just install the theme by hand from github then: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/archive/v1.5.1.tar.gz
[16:35] <Israphel> but the problem wasn't: "Gtk3 indicators in a Gtk2 Xfce-Panel" ?
[16:36] <ochosi> either way, the theme is always optimised for one release and its gtk3 version, if you're using a mix, you're on your own
[16:36] <Israphel> opening fileroller I do release gtk3 changed a lot
[16:37] <Israphel> realize*
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[16:38] <Israphel> the tar from github worked
[16:38] <Israphel> what was the difference between that one and the ppa one
[16:39] <ochosi> ppa one is for gtk3.12, git master is for gtk3.14
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[16:46] <Israphel> so ppa daily is not that daily
[16:48] <octoid> There are a lot of not so daily ppa daily :)
[16:48] <Israphel> looks like the elementary greeter one is more than daily, but it's so cute
[17:18] <Awen> hi guys. I just installed Xubuntu 14.10 which uses Linux Kernel 3.16. Is it safe to install Linux 3.18 to replace 3.16?
[17:19] <Awen> I tried doing this with Ubuntu 14.10, but after reboot, Unity would crash
[17:19] <knome> why do you need the newer kernel?
[17:20] <Awen> hardware support
[17:20] <Awen> I assume 3.8 has better drivers for ATI graphics
[17:20] <Awen> and Catalyst
[17:20] <knome> assuming isn't the same as reality
[17:21] <Israphel> did you check Phoronix?
[17:21] <knome> anyway, if you install it from a PPA, it's at your own risk
[17:21] <knome> same with non-repository packages
[17:21] <Awen> so it is not recommended? Coming from Manjaro, I am used to replacing my kernel with new ones
[17:21] <Awen> and Manjaro is designed for it
[17:22] <Awen> not sure if it can be done with Ubuntu based distros
[17:22] <knome> Awen, if it's in the repository, then it's supposed to work. if not, then there is no guarantee
[17:24] <Awen> I see. On a different note, Xubuntu boot splash is very cool. It still is during power down, but it is still in verbose mode with texts overlapping the blue xubuntu splash
[17:24] <Awen> is this normal?
[17:24] <knome> thanks. some of that is caused by drivers and we can't affect it
[17:25] <knome> i wouldn't worry about it too much
[17:25] <Awen> I see. Thanks for your help.
[17:25] <Skaftafells> Hello to all of you, i need some help: my laptop touchpad doesn't work anymore, although it is enabled in settings>mouse. I can work with my external mouse, but i would prefer get the touchpad back. Suggestions welcome - thank you!
[17:25] <knome> Skaftafells, "anymore" meaning after what?
[17:26] <akis> hi all. i made a custom action in thunar to shred and delete files according the documantation here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunarCustomActions. the strange think is that right click context menu shows 'shred and delete' on several files only (according the extention i suppose) and clicking on any file. why? any idea?
[17:26] <Skaftafells> knome, after years of working, i cannot say what has changed, maybe an update
[17:27] <knome> Skaftafells, are you sure you haven't pressed the keyboard combo to disable the touchpad?
[17:28] <knome> Skaftafells, does it work when you unplug your mouse?
[17:29] <Skaftafells> knome, in fact, it was the keybord combo. excuse me for my little bit stupid request... and thanxx a lot
[17:29] <knome> no problem
[17:30] <knome> akis, why what? i didn't understand the question
[17:32] <akis> knome: why 'shred and delete' option appears on any right click only over ie html files and not on any other file ie pdf, odt etc
[17:33] <knome> akis, did you look what the appearance conditions for the custom action sya?
[17:33] <knome> *say
[17:34] <akis> knome: where can i find these conditions to look at them?
[17:35] <knome> open the custom actions edit menu, choose the custom action and click the edit button to get the dialog open
[17:35] <akis> knome: oh! wait. i am looking at thme now.
[17:36] <akis> knome: i didn't see the 2nd tab!
[17:37] <knome> akis, consider consulting an optician :P
[17:37] <akis> knome: now works ok. thanks.
[17:37] <knome> you're welcome
[17:37] <akis> knome: -:)
[17:38] <akis> knome: i copied this command from the documentation 'zenity --question;if [$? = 0];then shred -fuz %F;fi". do you know if it is enough to permanently erase the file?
[17:39] <knome> that's outside my expertise
[17:45] <akis> knome: ok. i followed these instructions http://crunchbang.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=17877. i hope they are OK.
[18:17] <rosaecaeruleae> what is the lost and found directory for?
[18:18] <elfy> fsck uses it afaik - http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/18154/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-lostfound-folder-in-linux-and-unix
[18:19] <rosaecaeruleae> ok...
[20:40] <Athena_> Hi guys! Does anybody know if Xubuntu have some sort of kernel upgrade utility like Linux Mint?
[20:42] <xangua> why do you want or need to upgrade your kernel? what *ubuntu relase?
[20:42] <Athena_> why not?
[20:43] <Athena_> I just assume that Linux318 has better AMD GPU support
[20:43] <Athena_> you know, better drivers and better Catalyst support
[20:43] <Athena_> unless it's exactly the same with 3.16
[20:44] <bekks> Which kernel upgrade utility besides "apt-get" does Mint have? :)
[20:45] <Athena_> well what is the bash equivalent of Mint's kernel update module, the one that can be found in Mint's System Update module
[20:46] <xangua> you tell us (¿)
[20:47] <Athena_> okaay, you're really confusing me  O_o
[20:47] <elfy> Athena_: we don't necessarily have the slightest idea what Mint might do is what they're saying :)
[20:47] <Athena_> okay then let's make this simpler. Is it possible to list all available kernels that can be installed in Xubuntu?
[20:48] <xangua> what *ubuntu release?
[20:48] <bekks> Sure. apt-cache is your friend :)
[20:48] <Athena_> does it work like Manjaro's pacman-kernel -li ?
[20:48] <Athena_> if you've ever tried Manjaro, that is
[20:49] <Athena_> oh wait wrong command :P
[20:49] <xangua> then you should know manjaro is a rolling release distro, ubuntu is not
[20:49] <xangua> !info linux-generic
[20:49] <ubottu> linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16.0.29.30 (utopic), package size 1 kB, installed size 28 kB
[20:50] <Athena_> yes it is a rolling release but the kernel update is completely optional
[20:51] <bekks> And the same applies to Ubuntu.
[20:51] <elfy> Athena_: this is the same issue that someone called Awen asked earlier - you the same person?
[20:51] <Athena_> really? I just got here.  O_O
[20:52] <elfy> Awen (ca511e10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.81.30.16) has joined #xubuntu
[20:52] <elfy> Athena_ (ca511e10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.81.30.16) has joined #xubuntu
[20:53] <bekks> You've been caught red handed I guess ;)
[20:53] <elfy> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/01/20/%23xubuntu.html#t17:18
[20:53] <elfy> there - the same information's going to apply I would think
[22:13] <Wlsonjl3> hey guys, whats a program to but OS images onto a usb drive?
[22:13] <knome> !unetbootin | Wlsonjl3
[22:13] <ubottu> Wlsonjl3: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[22:18] <Wlsonjl3> thanks knomw
[22:18] <Wlsonjl3> knome