/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/01/21/#kubuntu-devel.txt

shadeslayeryofel: bzr ? 0.o00:47
yofelshadeslayer: dunno, that's where the VCS entry in the control file points to06:57
yofelah right, it's in kde-sc..06:57
yofelshadeslayer: ok, please sponsor kde-sc/konsole07:04
soeegood morning07:18
lordievaderGood morning.09:04
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Riddellyofel: konsole4 uploaded thanks10:16
Riddellooh today's image seems to be installing10:58
soeein upopic with plasma 5.2beta, press DEL when in terminal10:58
Riddelland it's all shiny new plasma 5.2 :)10:58
soeeand crash10:58
soee*utopic10:59
Riddellsoee: I need to backport yofel's konsole fixes and check the kate ones10:59
Riddellbut I don't know why it would crash on delte10:59
soeebor do i, there are also some other kesy that might cause crash i think11:00
soee*nor11:00
soeehere at work where im using desktop with Utopic i had probmes with freezing Chrome/Chromium. Today i removed propriety nvidia drivers and since than all seems to work just fine11:16
soeeso this migth be related to propritety drivers, i was using 340, havent tried newer here11:20
Riddell!testers | alpha 2 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/329/builds11:24
soee;o11:26
Riddellhmm where went ubottu ?11:28
Riddelloh no urls or something11:28
Riddell!testers | alpha 2 11:28
ubottualpha 2: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31  for information11:28
Riddellmorning mparillo 11:30
Riddellalpha 2 for testing if you're feeling at a lose end :)11:30
mparilloGood morning. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/329/builds ? Downloading now, before the neighborhood starts their streaming.11:32
Riddellyep, thanks :)11:35
mparilloI will grab the 32-bit. I think VMware Player still does not support 64-bit guests.11:37
Riddellit should do if you're on a 64 bit system11:38
Riddellbut great, I gave 64bit a quick check, you can check 32 bit11:38
BluesKajGreetings folks11:55
Riddellhi BluesKaj, alpha 2 testing if you are at a lose end :)11:55
BluesKajRiddell, ok, I will later on the laptop where 15.04 is located11:57
Riddellthanks :)11:58
lordievaderRiddell: I'll see if I have time in the afternoon. If it is good enouhg I'll bring it to FOSDEM ;)12:00
Riddelllovely12:01
mparilloFirst Test Case: The system boots properly and loads the installer displaying the Welcome dialog with language selection and 'Try Kubuntu' and 'Install Kubuntu' buttons. I know this is the behavior sometimes, but this time, I was dumped straight into a live session, with an Install  icon in the Desktop folder. I actually prefer this, but I can file a bug if you like.12:10
Riddellmparillo: known problem12:10
Riddellmparillo: we have a bug for it12:10
Riddelland I guess it's low priority since as you say arguably it's nicer like this12:10
BluesKajI see an alpha 1 image here, but no 2 , http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/vivid/12:15
RiddellBluesKaj: that's releases and it's not released yet12:16
Riddellhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/12:16
mparilloI do prefer it that way, thank you. I also like that the installer feels more link Plasma 5 now. Second potential (trivial bug). The screen locker comes on during the install. First, I doubt most users want a screen locker duing the install. Second, I just entered my userid / password to the installer, and the locker expects the live session user / no password. I guessed correctly, and it would be most people's first or 12:16
mparillosecond guess, but it is a potential cause for confusion. Is that a design decision to go with the default Plasma 5 default?12:16
lordievaderBluesKaj: Or iso.qa.ubuntu.com12:16
Riddellmparillo: yep also a known bug, shouldn't be hard for a useful person to fix :)12:17
mparilloBluesKaj: Or: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/329/builds and let it find it for you. It did for me.12:17
mparilloThomas the Tank Engine was really useful. After this release, perhaps we can chat.12:19
BluesKajmparillo, I found this , http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20150120.2/vivid-desktop-amd64.iso12:23
lordievaderBluesKaj: Looks like one of yesterday, not sure if that is the same.12:25
lordievaderAh, yes it is the same, never mind.12:26
BluesKajok12:26
BluesKajonce DL'd it shouldn't take more than 20 mins to install12:30
sitterRiddell: btw, all the transition is blocked on software-properties failing12:30
sitterwell, that and release freeze12:30
sitterbut props is holding up qapt and that is holding up everything else12:30
Riddellhave you looked at the failed test?12:31
lordievaderi386 doesn't get any love?12:32
* lordievader goes to give i386 some love12:32
sitterRiddell: the failed tests have nothing to do with qapt12:35
sitterthey are in software-props12:35
sittersomething wron with root elevation12:35
yofeloh this is fun. I attached another monitor, now klicking on kickoff opens the menu on the *other* screen12:38
yofelwhat's responsible for the widget placement? plasma?12:38
sitterI don't think plugnplay with multiple monitors sees much testing12:38
sitteryofel: probably plasma12:39
yofeland why does my mouse cursor resize constantly o.O12:39
Riddellsitter: so we can just force it to be ignored then12:40
sitterRiddell: I'd say so12:40
sitternot sure we want to push this in during freeze though12:40
Riddellsitter: and worry about making sure muon actually works :)12:40
sitterit does updates, so that's good ;)12:40
sitterreviews are completely botched though12:40
sitteralas, I am not even sure that ever worked correctly12:40
sitterand if it did it actually depended on a patch I did on qoauth during the u1 gsoc project12:41
sitterRiddell: runtime probably also needs to be forced12:41
yofelhm no, my cursor theme is completely borked. It's a mix of breeze small and large and plasma white depending on the window element the mouse is on @_@12:42
yofels/plasma/oxygen/12:42
kubotuyofel meant: "hm no, my cursor theme is completely borked. It's a mix of breeze small and large and oxygen white depending on the window element the mouse is on @_@"12:42
sitteroxygen -> breeze doesn't set the update-alternative nonesense so X itself probably applies oxygen as that has the alternative setup; breeze small vs large I can't explain12:43
sitterunless you have large configured in which case I'd guess that startkde perhaps first sets it to breeze and only afterwards to breeze-large12:43
sitterI did see weird cursor mapping behavior before 5.0 though, haven't noticed since12:44
yofeldunno. window decoration is oxygen white, quassel and firefox are breeze small, system settings and chrome are breeze large12:44
BluesKajsomeone suggested copying the alpha 2 image to USB using dd because it's quicker, will that actually boot?12:44
sitterfor the oddest of reasons certain items in plasma would use one cursor theme while others would use another12:44
RiddellBluesKaj: yep, what other way would you use to make a USB image?12:44
sitteryofel: sounds like what I saw way back when12:44
yofelwheee12:44
BluesKajwith disk creator, Riddell12:45
sitteryofel: perhaps try to setup the alternative manually to breeze and see whether that helps it12:45
RiddellBluesKaj: what is disk creator?12:45
sitterI am reasonable certain it has to do with the user config'd cursor theme not being set before certain things fork thus making them use whatever was set before, which probably would be oxygen due to the alternative thing12:46
BluesKajit creates a bootable image from an OS iso12:46
BluesKajRiddell,^12:46
yofelhm, breeze doesn't show up in the alternatives... unless it's called something else12:46
yofeland my cursor theme is set to "breeze (resolution dependent)" in sysset12:47
BluesKajit;s a gui app Riddell12:47
BluesKajbut ok I'll try dd12:48
yofelyeah, breeze-cursor-theme has not alternatives support12:51
yofel*no12:51
RiddellBluesKaj: usb-creator-kde ?12:59
BluesKajRiddell,sorry ,I mean't startup disk creator13:02
sitteryofel: resolution dependent would explain why you have a mix of large and small ;)13:03
yofelsure, and per-display I would understand, but not per-window :P13:04
yofelfiled a bug for the alternative stuff13:05
sitteryofel: with X everything is possible13:07
sgclarkmorning13:22
Riddellhola sitter 13:24
Riddellhola sgclark too13:24
Riddellhmm, kde-l10n-xx still installs to /usr/share/locale-kdelibs413:41
Riddell  * Use -DLOCALE_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/share/locale-kdelibs4/ to move13:43
Riddell    translations into kdelibs directory so they don't clash with13:43
Riddell    incoming kf5 packages13:43
Riddellah, only done for utopic13:43
Riddellso I can get rid of that13:43
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shadeslayeryofel: ah ok13:44
Riddelloh no there's 100 overlapping files14:09
Riddellsigh14:09
BluesKajRiddell, so far so good on alpha214:25
BluesKajeven the wifi auto-connected14:25
Riddellawooga14:27
Riddellhi BluesKaj 14:30
soeewhat is teh cmd to do upgrade utopic -> vivid from cli ?14:31
BluesKaj_ok, back on the laptop, I see switching VDs still has cube animation as an option , but it's not listed in systemsettings>desktop behaviour>desktop effects14:32
yofelsoee: sudo do-release-upgrade -d14:32
soeeoh interesting, impossible to upgrade14:35
BluesKaj_oh well, slide from one VD to another still works14:35
soeehttp://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/source/Sources 404 14:35
soeeand some others14:35
yofelah right, you'll have to comment out extras14:35
soeesure if only temrinal would not creahs each time :/14:37
Riddellsoee: mparillo wrote instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu14:37
Riddellalthough they can probably be simplified a lot by using software-properties14:37
lordievaderIs it intentional that the live-session uses Xrender instead of OpenGL? (It might be related to being a VM though)14:39
soeeRiddell: still wont help, problems with authenticating or something packages: frameworkintegration and libkf5plasmaquick514:41
soeeRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9806126/14:44
Riddellsoee: oh you're on utopic plasma5?14:45
soeeRiddell: yes14:46
Riddellsoee: disable kubuntu-ppa/next too14:46
Riddellthat's entirely untested, I've no idea if it'll work14:46
soeeso system might break after that ? :)14:46
Riddellworst case just install kubuntu-desktop14:47
soeeRiddell: diablink next ppa and next-staging not helping14:51
Riddellyeah scrap them too14:54
soeewhat ?14:55
yofelI do remember getting some auth errors too on release upgrade, I wonder where those come from14:55
soeehave to upgrade, this constant temrinal crash is impossible14:57
soeeok time to go, will try tomorrow14:59
shadeslayerhurray15:26
shadeslayersitter: my schroot now only mounts stuff that it needs15:26
shadeslayerinstead of the whole jenkins workspace dir15:26
shadeslayerand doesn't rely on /tmp/jenkins on the host15:26
lordievaderThe Vivid Alpha 2 i386 OEM install fails to start with: "rmdir: failed to remove '/run/udisks2/inhibit-polkit': Device or resource busy" Is this known?15:30
Riddelllordievader: not known no15:30
RiddellI've not tried OEM at all15:30
Riddelldo report a bug on ubiquity 15:30
lordievaderWill reboot first, see if it does it every time.15:31
lordievaderHmm, rebooting fixed it.15:34
sittershadeslayer: weet15:35
sitterwith s15:35
sittermy imager now is called via ssh in the hopes of not having the jenkins cgroups messed up..........15:35
shadeslayerheh15:35
sitterthe sad thing is, I wrote a lovely new lxc-harness all morning to possibly run the shit in an elevated lxc, only to then notice that since the original containers are owned by the jenkins user the uid mapping would be incorrect unless one does a full copy15:36
manchickenRiddell: I don't have time to help with code right now, but tonight (-0500) I will install alpha2 and test.15:57
lordievaderAfter installing in OEM mode I miss the "Prepare for shipping" (or however it was called) button. I presume this is a bug... To what do I report it?16:03
lordievaderHmm, also in the same install: partition manager cannot be launched from the menu, but launching it from Konsole is no problem.16:14
mparillohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status:list=NEW&field.status:list=CONFIRMED&field.status:list=TRIAGED&field.status:list=INPROGRESS&field.status:list=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status:list=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.16:41
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mparilloused=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search16:41
mparilloThis is the current bug list correct? So the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Alpha2/Kubuntu needs some love, correct?16:41
shadeslayersitter: FWIW my output now lists deb contents as well :317:00
shadeslayersitter: http://dci.pangea.pub/job/plasma/view/All/job/breeze_binary_unstable/15/consoleText17:00
shadeslayersitter: search for : DCI-INFO :: Contents of debs17:01
shadeslayerdh_install: usr/share/kservices5/breezestyleconfig.desktop exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere17:01
shadeslayerdh_install: usr/share/kservices5/breezedecorationconfig.desktop exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere17:01
shadeslayermuch fun17:01
BluesKaj_shut the old pc down , but I'm still here17:23
BluesKaj_well, happy to see copy and paste/klipper seems to be working to some degree.17:24
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soeehow the iso test go ?19:06
BluesKaj_soee, alpha 2 ?19:11
soeeBluesKaj_: ypu19:11
soee*yup19:11
BluesKaj_seems better in ways, copy and paste work properly now19:14
BluesKaj_exc3ept in the run command textbox19:14
soeewhen will Alpha 2 be released ?19:15
soeeisn't Alpha 2 freezed already ?19:16
BluesKaj_already got it installed19:16
soeeyetserday i was told @ ubuntu-kernel that after Alpah 2 freeze teh 3.18.3 version will be used19:16
soeeBluesKaj_: the most annoying but for me is the Dolphin and disappearing folders that were added to places19:18
soee*bug19:19
BluesKaj_3.18.0-9 here, may be i just reinstalled the same version I already upgraded to :)19:19
BluesKaj_at least the wifi auto-connect works now 19:20
BluesKaj_soee, network folders?19:23
soeeBluesKaj_: you this is current version19:23
soeeBluesKaj_: nope you can add to teh panel shortcus to various folders19:24
soeei usually add for Music, Downloads, Wideo, Tmporary etc19:24
soeeatm. after they are added and we reboot or logout/login they are gond19:24
soee*gone19:24
BluesKaj_ok, I just add the network shares 19:25
manchickenJeez, I finally got this working for libnotify in Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/libnotify-notifications-i/epckjefillidgmfmclhcbaembhpdeijg19:42
manchickenThat took *forever*19:42
manchickenI'm hoping that fixes the bug Chrome or the system tray has where chrome notifications fill up the system tray.19:43
manchickenNope... that didn't fix it at all.19:52
manchickenI don't know why the system tray holds on to Chrome notifications.19:53
soeechrome has some notifications ?19:57
manchickenWebKit notifications.20:06
Sick_RimmitHello lovely people :-)21:05
Sick_RimmitAll the stuff for FOSDEM arrived from the printers today YaY!!21:05
Sick_Rimmithe he21:08
Sick_RimmitHere goes an update to 15.04 alpha 221:09
mparilloI was copying a large selection from Firefox on 15.04 alpha 2, and when I pasted into kate, it crashed FF. Does that make sense to anybody?21:24
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soeehmm Firefox for devs with one card opened and dev console uses more than 1GB memory21:56
soeethis is madness21:56
Sick_RimmitWow!!22:01
keithzgmanchicken: damn, I'm really bothered by the tray filling up with Chrome notification icons too, I was momentarily elated by the possibility22:33
keithzgmanchicken: what did you need to do to make the extension work, though? 22:43
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