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| jhodapp | alesage, ping | 18:47 |
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| alesage | jhodapp, hallo | 18:47 |
| jhodapp | alesage, hey man, got an AP test problem I'm wondering if you can help shed some light on | 18:47 |
| jhodapp | alesage, take a look at this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jhodapp/mediaplayer-app/missing-codec-error-test/view/head:/tests/autopilot/mediaplayer_app/tests/test_player.py#L40 | 18:48 |
| alesage | jhodapp, lay it on me | 18:48 |
| jhodapp | alesage, that function tries to get the error dialog, via this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jhodapp/mediaplayer-app/missing-codec-error-test/view/head:/tests/autopilot/mediaplayer_app/emulators/main_window.py#L55 | 18:48 |
| alesage | jhodapp, ok | 18:49 |
| jhodapp | alesage, It never seems to be able to get the dialog from the mediaplayer-app QML | 18:49 |
| jhodapp | alesage, if you look at the test directly above that, it does the same thing and works, so I'm confused why this one isn't working | 18:49 |
| jhodapp | alesage, so the noMediaDialog one works | 18:49 |
| alesage | jhodapp, hmpf, I'd have to fire it up | 18:50 |
| jhodapp | alesage, error dialog here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jhodapp/mediaplayer-app/missing-codec-error-test/view/head:/src/qml/player/VideoPlayer.qml#L203 | 18:50 |
| jhodapp | alesage, ok, if you've got a moment to try it out, you can get the latest media-hub and qtubuntu-media required to generate the errors from vivid silo 1 | 18:51 |
| alesage | jhodapp, need to close a couple of other things first :) | 18:52 |
| jhodapp | alesage, sure thing, no rush | 18:52 |
| jhodapp | alesage, probably just missing something very simple | 18:53 |
| balloons | thomi, veebers are you guys open to autopilot having it's own site? | 19:58 |
| thomi | balloons: I think that would be a step backwards TBH | 20:07 |
| thomi | it'd make autopilot appear as a third class citizen | 20:07 |
| thomi | I don't understand what's so hard about making the current sphinx docs more integrated into the existing site | 20:08 |
| thomi | I don't think you need to mess around with json exporters and the like | 20:08 |
| thomi | (besides, I think the existing API docs are less useful than the ones we generate, but that might be a QMl <-> python difference, I'm not sure) | 20:09 |
| thomi | balloons: intersphinx is a system for linking between sphinx doc trees - you should be able to build something similar to allow linking between docs built in separate systems | 20:09 |
| balloons | thomi, the site itself is more or less handled by others on my team, so I play a small role. That said, obviously having all content under the CMS is preferred. Having autopilot be special has caused issues for everyone | 20:09 |
| thomi | Well... personally I think using a CMS for automatically generated documentation is a .... questionable choice | 20:10 |
| balloons | but I can easily forsee the generated html docs no longer existing and the content exported as json and forced into the site as-is | 20:10 |
| * balloons argued for a static site | 20:11 | |
| thomi | I'm not saying the whole site needs to be static | 20:11 |
| thomi | just that it's silly to turn automatically generated content into content managed by a CMS | 20:11 |
| balloons | lol.. keep things seperate; it's the sane way | 20:11 |
| thomi | apart from anything else, consider the overhead! | 20:11 |
| balloons | the cms system can handle the content to push if you wish | 20:11 |
| * balloons looks at intersphinx | 20:12 | |
| thomi | the only thing that's missing right now is for the autopilot docs to be linked to from other places | 20:12 |
| balloons | thomi, the docs as they are are going away. As it stands, I don't know a way you'll end up with the html you're generating | 20:14 |
| balloons | they live on a separate server and I can't update them. | 20:15 |
| balloons | nor is anyone keen to host them that way anymore | 20:15 |
| thomi | well, it looks like I need to leave this to veebers. I'm really dissappointed that the new developer.ubuntu.com site clearly wasn't designed to support autopilot. | 20:18 |
| thomi | I hope somehow that situation can be resolved. I'm not sure how we can ask people to use autopilot wihtout even hosting the documentation showehere | 20:18 |
| balloons | thomi, I guess if I can get one thing from you it would be what you would like to see so I understand your viewpoint. Would it be to have developer.ubuntu.com/autopilot featuring the html generated docs, with links from the content on developer.u.c? | 20:19 |
| thomi | I'd like to see the ap docs (both API and narrative docs) be a prominent part of the site, AND to not have the current quality of the documentation retarded by the underlying technology used. | 20:21 |
| balloons | ok, so "prominent" and intact then, as in, as generated by sphinx directly, a cohesive whole | 20:21 |
| thomi | additionally, from a technical point of view, it seems *insane* to me that the plan is to take static generated content and import it into a CMS, especially since we update the docs reasonably frequently, but if you can achieve the goals above, I don't mind much how you do it | 20:22 |
| veebers | balloons: I'm just OTP at the moment, will join the discussion soon :-) | 20:22 |
| thomi | balloons: if you can do the import trick, and manage to keep everything intact, then I'll be happy | 20:22 |
| thomi | balloons: but TBH that seems like it'd be difficult to me | 20:22 |
| thomi | I mean, certainbly possible, but why go to all that trouble? But if there's some good reason that I don't understand, then go for it! | 20:23 |
| balloons | thomi, I'm really on your side on this, which is why this is so maddening | 20:23 |
| thomi | sorry if I seem overly grumpy. From my perspective, ,we were *strongly* encouraged to move the docs to developer.u.c, and it's been nothing but failure after failure, so I'm quite short-temered about it now | 20:24 |
| balloons | thomi, hah, you are absolutely fine. | 20:25 |
| balloons | I personally have no idea how you would make the magic import work, and frankly I'd rather we didn't do it. But yes, the re-design has made things worse rather than better | 20:26 |
| balloons | we'll continue to look after it though | 20:27 |
| veebers | balloons: heh, I don't think I can add much more from what thomis said. I reaction is we could always put the docs on readthedocs, become a 3rd tier citizen and maybe update the launchpad site to have more info. That would make me sad :-( | 20:40 |
| balloons | veebers, I neither want autopilot to be third-tier, nor make you sad. | 20:42 |
| veebers | balloons: ^_^ | 20:43 |
| balloons | I guess I am somewhat at a loss on how I can prevent that.. I feel like the current route make no one happy and is full of issues | 20:44 |
| balloons | veebers, re: description, heh; https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1413374 | 21:08 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1413374 in Autopilot "Launchpad description is lacking" [Undecided,New] | 21:08 |
| veebers | balloons: heh awesome thanks. I'll make sure that gets fixed | 21:08 |
| balloons | yea, that way I didn't have to bug you and you don't need to drop everything now :-) | 21:08 |
| balloons | veebers, thomi if you could recheck https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/autopilot/apdocs-restruct/+merge/246599 | 21:56 |
| thomi | sure | 21:56 |
| thomi | balloons: all the "linkdescr" lines end in punctuation except "Tips to being out te test writer in you" | 21:58 |
| thomi | so that should have a '.' | 21:58 |
| balloons | kk | 21:58 |
| thomi | oh,a nd the two in the Indices and tables section | 21:58 |
| balloons | kk | 21:58 |
| veebers | sure | 21:59 |
| veebers | balloons: lgtm, bottom approved. | 22:04 |
| veebers | heh, I was looking at the MP while pulling the latest to build and got confused when there _was_ punctuation in my generated docs. Duh, you pushed the changes of course | 22:04 |
| balloons | awesome, I'll have at least one more for you this evening that does a little more expanding to the toc (add installation section) | 22:04 |
| balloons | veebers, sneaky me :-) | 22:04 |
| veebers | thomi: if you would like to yay/nay the question in your MP I would like to approve that too (https://code.launchpad.net/~thomir/autopilot/trunk-add-troubleshooting-docs/+merge/247093) | 22:05 |
| thomi | veebers: I don't see a question? | 22:06 |
| veebers | thomi: I set it as NF with a comment in the diff | 22:07 |
| thomi | oh wait, old diff | 22:07 |
| thomi | veebers: ok | 22:07 |
| thomi | veebers: pushed | 22:09 |
| * veebers looks | 22:09 | |
| veebers | sweet, approved. Thanks | 22:10 |
| balloons | alright, how's about https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/autopilot/apdocs-install/+merge/247232 thomi and veebers ? | 22:26 |
| * thomi looks | 22:26 | |
| thomi | balloons: did you remove the additional sections? the diff has changed and now I'm confused :D | 22:27 |
| balloons | thomi, ahh, sorry.. I saw whitespace changes and fixed them quickly.. this mp depends on the one you just reviewed. I moved the faq install question, attempted to fix it, and added a couple other faq questions related to it | 22:28 |
| thomi | balloons: ahh, ok | 22:29 |
| balloons | so the toc is now balanced again, and includes an install section :-) | 22:29 |
| thomi | balloons: LGTM | 22:29 |
| balloons | ohh right, need to add the ref for installing (i need it for the tutorial) | 22:31 |
| balloons | awesome.. | 22:32 |
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