=== Jon__ is now known as JonEdney === charles_ is now known as charles [02:17] Hi. can you give me some pointers. Im looking for way how to execute .desktop file from my py app. Ive tried calling xdg-open but that ended up opening the .desktop in text editor. Can you tell me how Unity shell (dash/launchers) launches apps .desktop? [02:24] excalibr, you don't execute the desktop file [02:32] Laney, a-i-t drops the legacy icon name maps (as listed in icon-naming-utils), will probably cause some missing icons around the place [02:38] darkxst, how I'm supposed to launch it? [02:38] the proper way [02:38] excalibr, what are you trying to do? the shell parses the desktop files to read the meta-data [02:39] if you want unity to launch your app, then you just need to make a desktop file and put it in the right place [02:40] darkxst, sorry I wasnt clear enought. I want to call an external app through its .desktop from my py app [02:45] excalibr, glib has api for working with desktop files [02:46] g_desktop_appinfo_* maybe [02:46] https://developer.gnome.org/gio/stable/gio-Desktop-file-based-GAppInfo.html#g-desktop-app-info-launch-action [02:53] ok many thanks :) [06:16] good morning [07:41] good morning desktopers! [07:41] re seb128! [07:41] lut didrocks ;-) [07:41] and medium tests pass \o/ [07:41] * didrocks git push [07:44] bonjour mes amis français, comment avez-vous ? [07:45] bonjour pitti! [07:45] salut pitti, ça va bien ! et toi ? [07:46] oh wait, I'm not even French [07:46] ... et mes amis allemands aussi, bien sûr ! :-) [07:46] hello pitti [07:46] hey larsu, wie gehts? [07:46] * didrocks was feeling lonely this morning on the channel :) [07:47] pitti: gut danke! [07:51] didrocks: pardon, j'ai perdu ton "bonjour" -- I ignored IRC, but I now landed the sysv-generator tests upstream :) [07:51] and am now fighting with some bugs in it [07:52] pitti: saw that, congrats! [08:00] * mpt tries to change his password, and System Settings hangs \o/ [08:06] morning [08:10] mpt: woah, there's all kinds of things wrong in that dialog... [08:11] larsu, like how it pouts “Not strong enough” when you haven’t even typed anything yet [08:11] Laney: is this known^ ? I can't change my password at all (button doesn't work), the strength bar is messed up, it shows "not strong enough" even there's no text in it [08:11] And then reverts to “Not strong enough” again when you hit the button to change the password [08:11] mpt: right... [08:11] mpt: are you on V? [08:11] * mpt cowers [08:11] mpt: I can't even hit that button. It's insensitive [08:11] I’m on 14.04. Maybe I should upgrade. [08:12] mpt: woah. Should definitely work there... [08:12] Even if it wouldn’t help in this particular case. :-) [08:14] haha yeah [08:14] thanks for letting us know! [08:14] larsu, what dialog? [08:14] * seb128 feels like he lacks context [08:14] seb128, it’s a hidden dialog [08:14] The one for changing your password [08:15] ah [08:15] seb128: the change password dialog in u-c-c [08:15] I see [08:17] larsu, you can't hit the button because your password is not strong enough [08:18] seb128: right, but no matter what I type, the strength doesn't fill up (even when letting it fill automatically) [08:18] also, the strength bar seems to change when typing in "current password" [08:19] ah, closing and reopening it works [08:25] larsu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p85xwZ_OLX0 [08:25] HAHA awesome [08:25] * larsu misses that show [08:25] same :) [08:25] g'morn [08:26] 0118 999 881… [08:26] hey willcooke [08:26] 3 [08:26] * didrocks ^5s willcooke [08:27] \o/ [08:27] hey willcooke [08:27] morning willcooke! [08:27] willcooke, sorry I was out for dinner when you pinged, did you figure out your unity8 issues? [08:29] seb128, yeah it just started working :D [08:29] * willcooke keeps paying the witch doctor for his powers [09:05] hello [09:07] hi Laney! [09:07] how goes? [09:09] morning Laney [09:10] there is tea, therefore good [09:11] biked back home through the snowfall last night, fun [09:11] was hoping that it might stay but there's not much left now [09:15] larsu: not familiar with this password issue, sorry, are you looking into it? [09:21] Can anyone do the "Ubuntu Engineering Live" hangout today at 1400 UTC? I have a meeting with Rick then [09:22] Laney: not yet, but I can [09:23] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1318199 [09:23] Launchpad bug 1318199 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Can't change password" [Low,Confirmed] [09:23] probs that === sil2100_ is now known as sil2100 [09:32] Laney, can you send me some snow? melting from heat here ;( [09:34] OK, I'll include a stamped addressed envelope so you can post me some warmth back & then everyone can be happy ... [09:36] It's the 21st century guys. [09:36] Use email [09:38] or UUECP (unix to unix energy copy) [09:38] darn, where did I put the source for that.. [09:43] willcooke, how would one send snow via email ? [09:43] or heat? [09:43] darkxst, scan it it [09:43] zipped [09:43] simples [09:43] pitti, lol [09:44] willcooke, maybe we need 22nd century tech, quantum teleporters! [09:44] darkxst, :D [09:44] because a picture of snow aint going to cut it right now [09:44] hahaha [09:45] woooo [09:45] X forwarding from the phone [09:45] to the desktop [09:45] for no reason [09:45] but it's fast [09:51] willcooke: with the new ssh unix port forwarding from utopic? [09:52] (that's an awesome feature!) [09:52] I'm just using good ol' ssh -X atm [10:09] willcooke: oh, so the phone already has xauth installed? I thought it hadn't [10:11] I just installed it [10:11] (thanks to mlankhorst ) [10:11] ah, cheating :) (requires r/w phone) [10:11] yeah [10:13] mlankhorst, willcooke: FYI: https://plus.google.com/+MartinPitti/posts/ZVQttN2ft5f [10:13] should work on an unmodified r/o phone, but requires utopic's ssh [10:13] * willcooke reads [10:14] ah [10:16] nice [10:19] pitti: yeah but you need some packages installed to run the xserver :P [10:19] mlankhorst: well, not everyone is running unit8 on their desktop yet :) [10:19] I'd suppose that almost every developer has X installed on their desktop still :) [10:20] mlankhorst: NB, will wants to run X apps on the phone and forward them to the desktop's X, not run X on the pone [10:20] I don't see the usecase in that :P [10:21] and besides you need xauth on the target machiine, which already has xauth [10:25] I used it once to run d-feet [10:25] mlankhorst: maybe, but with ssh -X you also need it on the phone side [10:25] with forwarding the unix port you don't [10:26] seb128: poppler re-ping [10:27] Laney, ups, forgot, done [10:27] thanks [10:27] transition time! [10:27] do you need help with that? [10:27] nah [10:28] I already found the inkscape patch required, dunno about others but it'll be fine [10:29] k [10:29] * Laney watches the flames appear on the horizon [10:35] * didrocks can do with some flames to heat up the atmosphere === cking_ is now known as cking === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:54] I love spending an hour editing a video in kdenlive and then have it crash [12:56] oh well [12:56] rendering it makes my cpu busy, and that's all that's keeping me warm [12:58] I have water cooling that only gets warm when I build llvm-toolchain for 2 hours in qemu for the arm arch :P [12:58] ha! [12:58] kdenlive-cc, like distcc :) [12:58] after that the cooling tower turns into a space heater [13:00] nice bit of energy efficiency [13:01] I don't often use my cpu that much [13:04] so you openly admit to being a slacker?!? [13:04] ;) [13:05] nah, but most of the time builds take shorter [13:06] Sweet5hark, congrats on the Android doc app [13:07] willcooke: not my work yet -- all kudos go out to collabora [13:07] good bunch of guys === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [13:40] achievement unlocked: being quoted on omgubuntu. [13:53] :) [14:18] chrisccoulson: firefox 35 is stuck in vivid-proposed. any reason why? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:43] brainwash: you should be able to check that yourself from proposed migration documentation. [14:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration [14:44] in this case it's trivial to see missing build on armhf [14:44] right, just noticed that [14:46] so something like that can delay a security update :/ [15:18] * popey tickles willcooke [15:18] vivid isn't released yet so why worry about it? [15:18] there he is [15:18] popey, hey [15:18] yo yo [15:22] mlankhorst: vivid is being used by people to test/develop, these people might browse the web with an outdated/insecure web browser [15:25] I have -proposed enabled, so I'm not one of them [15:31] Laney, Would you have time to look at this bustle bug? I'd love to get these split before FF. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=772148 [15:31] Debian bug 772148 in bustle "bustle: Split out bustle-pcap into a separate binary package" [Wishlist,Open] [15:48] do we have an opinion on whether booting the unity8-next iso live session should display the ooeb wizard? [15:48] oobe? [15:48] out of the box expereience [15:49] the first run wizard that let you pick locale, password, etc [15:49] it's not that useful in a live session [15:49] out of the experience box! [15:49] but it might be useful for testing/demoing it [15:49] lol [15:49] oobe I guess ;-) [15:53] seb128: agreed, it shouldn't [15:53] +1 [15:53] (and maybe it's time to implement a "demo mode" :)) [15:54] didrocks, patches are welcome I guess? ;-) [15:56] seb128: fine with this, we can even implement that with systemd sessions (so not that cycle) and I'm happy to give it then a look ;) [15:57] didrocks, do you know what's the right component to add a small hook to create the stamp file for the livecd user? livecd-rootfs? [15:57] seb128: you mean, creating the temp user, autologin and such? [15:58] didrocks, well, to not display the wizard we need to touch a file in ~/.config [15:58] didrocks, just trying to figure out where to add the line ;-) [15:58] yeah, all those temporary stuff are done in casper (casper-bottom scripts) [15:58] thanks [15:58] seb128: I have some cycles, I can handle this if you wish [15:58] that will remind me the UNE time :) [15:58] didrocks, no, that's fine, I'm looking at, but thanks! [15:59] ok, do not hesitate if you have any question [15:59] sure [15:59] thanks [15:59] always happy to break casper in the iso :) [15:59] lol [15:59] seb128: scripts/casper-bottom/ btw [16:00] didrocks, thanks, I've that on screen [16:00] hum, vcs is one revision behind [16:00] let me ping apw [16:01] waow, we still have code for Ubuntu MID [16:03] bah, can't renew library book, brb need to take it back to avoid being fined ;-) [16:03] now I'll never find out how it ends! [16:03] tedg: I better look at that this afternoon to avoid forgetting [16:04] :( [16:04] Laney, Thanks! [16:04] I'm sure someone has written a spoiler on the Internet :-) [16:04] Laney: try with a cup of tea, I learnt this was a real currency in your country :) [16:04] "item has holds" [16:05] need to find who that is and ... deal with them [16:05] * tedg assumes from didrocks' comment that means throwing tea at them. [16:05] tedg: "offf couuuuursssssss" :) [16:05] to the bottom of the deep brown tea [16:11] didrocks, I was told that you're doing the BZ5 transition. Is that landing soonish? [16:12] tedg: there are the u-c-c part to be done (larsu is on it), and we might be blocked by the Touch side [16:12] tedg: the kernel team is supposed to update the Touch kernel with BZ5 patches, not a priority to them until February [16:13] beware of the Touch side [16:13] * tedg is not touching that [16:13] didrocks, K, thanks for the update. [16:13] yw! [17:12] tedg: oh, I thought you'd submitted a patch. :( [17:12] Laney, I thought I did too. [17:14] Laney, How do I attach to that bug? [17:14] Email bugnumber@bugs.debian.org & attach it [17:15] * tedg tries to add it [17:23] Laney, How long does it typically take to show up on the bug? [17:23] tedg: Few minutes I guess, not long [17:23] lately it's been up to 10 minutes [17:23] * tedg presses reload a few times to make it faster [17:23] I think the queue is busy [17:23] tedg: you will receive an email to notify you [17:24] Seriously, I get an e-mail to confirm I sent e-mail? :-) [17:24] you get a ack :) [17:24] it's there now [17:25] Woot! Reload worked! [17:25] ;-) [17:25] Hmm, that’s weird [17:25] If I use xprop or xwininfo on Unity’s shutdown dialog, I just get the properties of whatever window is underneath [17:25] needs Breaks+Replaces [17:25] but thanks [17:26] Laney, I thought for a new binary package I wouldn't, no? [17:26] mpt, It is drawn by the compositor, so it's not a real window. [17:26] ah, ok, thanks tedg [17:27] * didrocks waves good evening === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === greyback__ is now known as greyback === JonEdney_v2 is now known as JonEdney === Laney is now known as Guest54456