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pitti | Good morning | 05:37 |
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dholbach | good morning | 08:01 |
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pitti | jamespage: the neutron regression looks real (ERROR: HYPERV PLUGIN IS NOT RUNNING); maybe some glitch with the new generated init.d/upstart job scripts? | 11:07 |
pitti | the other tests succeeded | 11:07 |
jamespage | pitti, looking at that now | 11:07 |
pitti | jamespage: if you think it's a race, I'm happy to restart, but so far they seemed pretty stable | 11:08 |
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jamespage | pitti, interesting | 11:16 |
jamespage | pitti, the package in updates also does the same thing; installs and then shutsdown straight away due to missing configuration | 11:17 |
jamespage | pitti, I guess we where race lucky before :-( | 11:17 |
pitti | jamespage: you mean s/updates/vivid/, I presume? ah, so it didn't wait long enough for the startup to actually finish? | 11:17 |
jamespage | pitti, quite possibly | 11:18 |
jamespage | pitti, I'll look at test tests again | 11:18 |
sladen | I'm out of touch, who holds the keys for developer.ubuntu.com? | 11:28 |
sladen | ...there's a broken example that I'd love to just-fix in 30 seconds | 11:28 |
sladen | instead of begging other people to do | 11:29 |
sil2100 | mitya57: hey! So I made qtserialport-opensource-src buildable on amd64, which made qtdoc-opensource-src buildable and made other things buildable as well - waiting for pyqt5 to finish now | 11:36 |
sil2100 | mitya57: my fix for qtserialport-opensource-src was really really dumb but I confirmed that it was actually working on a chroot | 11:37 |
zyga | stgraber: hi, what's the most Ubuntu-portable way of using the freezer subsystem? | 11:44 |
zyga | stgraber: I want to run a process in a new cgroup and once it terminates, freeze that cgroup, inspect any children if may have created (and kill them) | 11:45 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | hi developerz! | 11:45 |
zyga | stgraber: I'd like to support Ubuntu 14.04+ but 12.04 (with LTS kernels) would be also nice | 11:45 |
zyga | stgraber: is there a intermediate service I should be talking? | 11:45 |
zyga | stgraber: systemd / cgroupmgr / something else? | 11:45 |
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mitya57 | sil2100: o_O, I can't believe that simply swapping two lines fixed it | 12:49 |
mitya57 | Is it a bug in debhelper? | 12:50 |
mitya57 | I thought that file was not generated at all (even reported that as https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-43846) | 12:52 |
sil2100 | mitya57: now this is something I don't understand - from my various experiments in an chroot this is actually what fixed it | 12:52 |
sil2100 | mitya57: as after removing it completely from the .install it was mentioning that it's there but not installed | 12:52 |
mitya57 | Weird | 12:53 |
mitya57 | Anyway, thanks for finding the solution! | 12:53 |
mitya57 | Now I need to do something with qtwebsockets failure on powerpc | 12:53 |
sil2100 | mitya57: and really - in the original order it wasn't generated, but when the -index one is first, is magically gets built - I wonder if that's not some race somewhere, but yeah... | 12:53 |
sil2100 | Maybe there would be a better solution, but at least this one works ;p | 12:53 |
mitya57 | In the report I linked upstream also suggested that it's a race condition | 12:54 |
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mitya57 | sil2100: FYI: https://codereview.qt-project.org/103701 | 13:46 |
mitya57 | Maybe at some point in the future we'll be able to drop appmenu-qt5 completely | 13:46 |
sil2100 | mitya57: huh, that's something new! | 13:47 |
sil2100 | mitya57: need to see how they're trying to do that, but yeah, I wouldn't mind this being upstream | 13:47 |
alexbligh1 | rbasak, I hate to bug you, but have you had a chance to look at LP#1366174 ? | 13:52 |
mitya57 | sil2100: that is a very early WIP, no real code yet. | 13:52 |
rbasak | alexbligh1: sorry. I haven't forgotten. I'm still working on MySQL :-( | 13:53 |
alexbligh1 | rbasak, my commiserations ... | 13:53 |
rbasak | I don't mind you pinging me though. Please do lest I forget. I will get to it eventually. | 13:54 |
alexbligh1 | rbasak, you may regret saying that ... | 13:54 |
rbasak | I'm also spending an hour a day now on mentoring others to remove me as a bottleneck for this stuff. | 13:54 |
alexbligh1 | Did ubottu die, or does he no longer like decoding bugs in LP#1366174 format? | 14:00 |
Unit193 | LP #1366174 | 14:01 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1366174 in apache2 (Ubuntu Trusty) "apache2 SEGV with multiple SSL sites" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1366174 | 14:01 |
alexbligh1 | I could have sworn that worked without the space before. | 14:02 |
Unit193 | Nope. | 14:03 |
alexbligh1 | I stand corrected then. | 14:04 |
Unit193 | There's a couple different formats it likes, but it likes the space. It'll do links too of course. | 14:05 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | arges, thanks! | 14:06 |
arges | LocutusOfBorg1: no problem | 14:07 |
mdeslaur | pitti: "Note that I'm not claiming the merging for this package" - lol, nice try :) | 14:17 |
pitti | mdeslaur: which one was that? | 14:18 |
mdeslaur | pitti: samba...it made me chuckle, that's all :) | 14:18 |
* rbasak ponders adding a disclaimer to every changelog of every upload :-P | 14:20 | |
pitti | well, I don't think it's unfair; I earn a ton of merges already because people don't merge their's; I don't want to be penalized even further by fixing the archive with no-change uploads :) | 14:20 |
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LocutusOfBorg1 | pitti, can I merge samba then? the merge is easy, no conflicts | 14:47 |
pitti | if you want to, please | 14:47 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | as soon as I finish testing for bug 1411507 | 14:49 |
ubottu | bug 1411507 in virtualbox (Ubuntu) "[SRU] virtualbox-guest-dkms 4.3.10-dfsg-1: virtualbox-guest kernel module failed to build [error: 'generic_file_aio_read' undeclared here (not in a function)]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1411507 | 14:49 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | pitti can you sponsor it or should I open a bug? | 15:30 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | I can send the debdiff by mail | 15:31 |
pitti | LocutusOfBorg1: bug probably works better in case some other sponsor gets to it earlier, but mail WFM too | 15:36 |
stgraber | zyga-afk: cgmanager is your best bet for that I think | 15:36 |
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arges | Laney: hey. mind if I merge virt-manager? it will fix a bug for me. | 15:37 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | I think I send it, I can open a bug if needed | 15:37 |
Laney | arges: no attachment there, go wild | 15:37 |
arges | Laney: yay. thanks | 15:38 |
hallyn | pitti: hey. on bug 1411978, others have reported this. It seems to happen when you switch to systemd and then back again. maybe dbus ges removed? i personally don't think cgmanager is to blame but i could be wrong | 15:47 |
ubottu | bug 1411978 in cgmanager (Ubuntu) "cgmanager and udev 208-8ubuntu8.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1411978 | 15:48 |
* hallyn tries in a container | 15:48 | |
pitti | hallyn: yeah, I followed up there explaining that booting and upgrading with systemd in utopic is unsupported and known broken, so feel free to just invalidate | 15:49 |
hallyn | pitti: you actually said "with upstart", so i got confused | 15:50 |
pitti | hallyn: oh, did I? argh | 15:50 |
hallyn | :) | 15:50 |
pitti | followed up | 15:51 |
pitti | hallyn: wah, wah, hate init systems! :-) | 15:51 |
hallyn | pitti: see bug 1407954 for a dup | 15:51 |
ubottu | bug 1407954 in cgmanager (Ubuntu) "package cgmanager 0.32-4ubuntu1.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1407954 | 15:51 |
pitti | hallyn: AFAIK cgmanager isn't even using the system d-bus, is it? it implements its own server | 15:53 |
hallyn | no, but the upstart init job starting does | 15:54 |
hallyn | so i htink it's a pakcaging bug with systemd or more likely upstart | 15:54 |
hallyn | though, hm, dbus shouldn't be required | 15:55 |
hallyn | worthwhile question might be "how did you switch back to upstart' | 15:57 |
seb128 | apw, hey, your most recent casper upload doesn't seem to be in the vcs, is that a push omission? | 16:01 |
apw | seb128, that'd be me doing it wrong i recon | 16:02 |
apw | seb128, shall i repair that ? | 16:02 |
seb128 | apw, that would be great, thanks :-) | 16:02 |
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apw | seb128, ok i think that is repaired | 16:14 |
seb128 | apw, looks so, thanks! | 16:15 |
apw | seb128, thanks for catching, and checking | 16:15 |
hallyn | stgraber: weren't there autogenerated docs on the lxc api posted somewhere? (they're no tlinked on https://linuxcontainers.org/lxc/introduction/) | 16:25 |
stgraber | hallyn: they're linked from the documentation page | 16:25 |
stgraber | hallyn: https://linuxcontainers.org/lxc/apidoc/ | 16:25 |
hallyn | awesome, thanks | 16:26 |
hallyn | stgraber: oh, i see. ihave to use menus to find the docs page :) | 16:27 |
hallyn | iow, my non-javascript browser is sol | 16:27 |
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stgraber | hallyn: works in w3m :) | 16:28 |
hallyn | course the apidoc page itself requires js so just as well | 16:28 |
stgraber | but yeah, I guess a graphical browser which does CSS but no JS would be a problem | 16:28 |
zyga | stgraber: can I use cgmanager on 12.04 as well? | 16:28 |
zyga | stgraber: or can I just do wild-west manual cgroup poking there and don't look back>? | 16:28 |
stgraber | zyga: cgmanager works fine on 12.04 though it's not in the archive so you'll need a backport (like the ones we maintain in ppa:ubuntu-lxc/stable) | 16:29 |
zyga | stgraber: that sounds okay | 16:31 |
zyga | stgraber: how about on the phone, the codebase I work on supports 12.04+ and the phone | 16:31 |
stgraber | cgmanager is on the phone and used by default by upstart and the app launcher | 16:31 |
zyga | excellent, thanks | 16:31 |
zyga | I'll google for the API and see what we can do with it | 16:32 |
zyga | stgraber: just one last question, how does it cooperate with systemd? | 16:32 |
stgraber | works fine alongside it, they usually don't touch the same cgroups | 16:32 |
zyga | stgraber: ok | 16:32 |
zyga | stgraber: my use case is to put a process in a new cgroup and freeze it at some point time later (to reliably kill all children) | 16:33 |
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jamespage | anyone know which bit of systemd populates /etc/machine-id ? and what should happen on a upstart based system? | 17:01 |
mitya57 | sil2100, returning to appmenu-qt5: can I land it? | 17:01 |
jamespage | context: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/1413293 | 17:01 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1413293 in nova (Ubuntu) "Unable to start instances, empty /etc/machine-id file." [Undecided,New] | 17:01 |
sil2100 | mitya57: yeah, it should be fine to do so - I double tested that all works fine even without Qt 5.4 | 17:03 |
mitya57 | sil2100, then I will now land three my branches :) | 17:03 |
jamespage | utlemming, smoser: reading http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-machine-id-setup.html is this something we need todo for vivid on first boot for cloud-images? | 17:05 |
jamespage | ^^ see above bug for context | 17:06 |
utlemming | jamespage: looking | 17:06 |
jamespage | utlemming, 14.04 deploys don't get that file, so I'm wondering whether its a bit of cruft from the build process for vivid | 17:07 |
jamespage | esp as vivid is still upstart right now | 17:07 |
utlemming | jamespage: I think this is an artifact of us switching from cloud image custom live build to using a stock live build | 17:08 |
smoser | reading | 17:09 |
smoser | it would seem, yes. that we shoudl set that | 17:10 |
xnox | jamespage: at the moment /etccc/machine-id is borked up on ubuntu | 17:16 |
xnox | jamespage: it should be done by "first boot job" or the "installer", in practice it's done on the livefs builder and thus all ubuntu desktops have the same one. | 17:16 |
xnox | dito dbus machine-id | 17:16 |
Odd_Bloke | xnox: jamespage: Am I right in thinking that we would (ideally) not have /etc/machine-id on the images at all (so it'll be generated at boot time)? | 17:18 |
xnox | jamespage: smoser: ideally, the livefs builder should be fixed to delete/omit those. But then something should be enabled to generate it properly. | 17:18 |
jamespage | Odd_Bloke, xnox: on a systemd boot, if its empty it gets populated automatically | 17:18 |
xnox | Odd_Bloke: yes. | 17:18 |
jamespage | just not under upstart | 17:18 |
jamespage | so removal for now might be best | 17:18 |
xnox | jamespage: cool. needs an upstart job + removal on the image builder | 17:18 |
jamespage | dumb here just thought he'd try a complete openstack deploy with systemd | 17:19 |
jamespage | however forgot that juju only installs upstart configs right now :-) | 17:19 |
jamespage | bang! | 17:19 |
xnox | =))))) | 17:19 |
SpamapS | smoser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1413279 <-- I won't have time to fix until about 3 weeks from now, but it might be a pretty easy fix for you to slam in there... just sayin. | 17:22 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1413279 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "upstart event static-network-up emited to early" [High,Triaged] | 17:22 |
Odd_Bloke | We intentionally truncate /etc/machine-id at the moment (rather than deleting it). | 17:23 |
smoser | SpamapS, well, isn't bug 1413279 a dupe of bug 1379427 ? | 17:24 |
ubottu | bug 1413279 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "upstart event static-network-up emited to early" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1413279 | 17:24 |
ubottu | bug 1379427 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "/etc/network/if-up.d/upstart emits static-network-up to early" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379427 | 17:24 |
smoser | second, "family" isn't really enough... as i could quite reasonably have 2 or more ipv6 addresses configured for an nic, couldn't i? | 17:25 |
SpamapS | smoser: first: yes. second: yes you can, but ifup won't return until they're all assigned. | 17:25 |
smoser | ah. that would seem to make sense then. | 17:26 |
SpamapS | man page is somewhat silent on duplicate sections | 17:27 |
SpamapS | smoser: unfortunately I think this might mean you have to touch ifquery :-/ | 17:28 |
SpamapS | smoser: as it makes no distinction on family | 17:28 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | pitti, sorry, mdeslaur pushed a samba update, should I redo the merge? | 17:38 |
mdeslaur | LocutusOfBorg1: sorry about that | 17:38 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | no need to be sorry, I'm just asking how to proceed :) | 17:39 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | I think you will override also another upload because of CVEs (virtualbox) | 17:39 |
LocutusOfBorg1 | I'm preparing the debdiff right now (this week I hope) | 17:39 |
Odd_Bloke | jamespage: xnox: So mvo added a patch to (just) truncate /etc/machine-id on 2014-10-29; his comment reads "truncate, do not remove otherwise systemd is unhappy". Has systemd learned to cope with it missing since then? | 17:46 |
jamespage | Odd_Bloke, not sure | 17:46 |
xnox | Odd_Bloke: no. something should generate it. systemd can cope with it not being there, only when the whole /etc is empty as far as i can tell. | 17:48 |
xnox | (well precisely condition first boot is satisfied) | 17:48 |
xnox | Odd_Bloke: mvo: actually looking at recent source code from systemd, if /etc/machine-id is not present conditionfirstboot is satisifed and then units that have conditionfirstboot are triggered | 17:55 |
xnox | e.g. set presets, generate machine id, etc.... | 17:55 |
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pfsmorigo_ | cjwatson, hi, some of the fixes in grub2 needs to be added to 14.04 as well. 14.04 seems to be using release 9 and all our fixes are after that... | 18:15 |
cjwatson | slangasek,infinity: ^- could one of you help pfsmorigo_ out? | 18:17 |
cjwatson | pfsmorigo_: I moved to the Launchpad team at the start of the year - I'm still maintaining grub2 in Debian, but hopefully slangasek can give you a new routine contact for Ubuntu grub2 things | 18:18 |
pfsmorigo_ | cjwatson, I see | 18:18 |
cjwatson | There's an ubuntu/trusty branch in the Debian git repository, which ideally would be kept up to date; infinity has access or I can give it to others | 18:19 |
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infinity | I do indeed have access, haven't looked at it since the switch to the new patch system. | 18:25 |
cjwatson | http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-grub-devel/2014-January/013883.html has some recipes. | 18:26 |
infinity | pfsmorigo_: Can you highlight the fixes that need SRUing, file some bugs (or if bugs already existed and were closed, point them out to me), etc? | 18:26 |
pfsmorigo_ | infinity, LP#: 1334793, 1338471, 1295255... | 18:31 |
pfsmorigo_ | infinity, do you prefer that I open a new lauchpad with all patches so you can apply it? | 18:33 |
pfsmorigo_ | infinity, there are two fixes without launchpad | 18:33 |
infinity | pfsmorigo_: One bug that points at all the fixes might be helpful. | 18:33 |
pfsmorigo_ | infinity, ok, will do that | 18:34 |
pfsmorigo_ | infinity, tks | 18:34 |
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hallyn | say, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1412671 is telling me i took a wrong turn. but that's the buglink in the bug email i'm looking at. is launchpad having trouble? | 18:45 |
ubottu | Error: launchpad bug 1412671 not found | 18:45 |
hallyn | exactly | 18:46 |
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infinity | hallyn: Could be a private bug you're not subscribed to. | 19:18 |
hallyn | d'oh, right. i thought i was logged in, but maybe i'm not | 19:21 |
hallyn | hm, i am | 19:21 |
sarnold | I can't see it either; it's marked private | 19:22 |
hallyn | well that's a shame :) | 19:22 |
hallyn | i figured if it ws marked private, package owners would still be able to se eit | 19:22 |
hallyn | looks like i misunderstood | 19:22 |
sarnold | I always get a giggle when I see someone file a bug report Private Security then beg for help then mark it Private -- and no one else will ever see that bug again... | 19:22 |
hallyn | but i often see private bugs tha i can open. i'm confused. what is one supposed to do then? is the bug submitter supposed to add people s/he trusts? | 19:23 |
sarnold | good question :/ | 19:24 |
hallyn | ok completely separate question - libvirt needs libcurl-dev to build --with-esx. apt is telling me i have to choose between openssl, nss, and gnutls versions. which do we recommend? all 3 are in main... | 19:25 |
mdeslaur | hallyn: it's a licensing issue | 19:27 |
hallyn | oh gah | 19:27 |
hallyn | now that you mention it i recall libvirt having to deal with that | 19:27 |
teward | any way to achieve distro-specific pages (for default pages in a webserver) without scripting debian/rules to specify the file to copy over? (maybe in the .install file, or some other method with debhelper or such?) | 19:32 |
hallyn | mdeslaur: so do you know offhand whichone to use with lgpl code? | 19:37 |
mdeslaur | hallyn: is there an openssl exception in that lgpl code? if not, I think gnutls | 19:39 |
mdeslaur | hallyn: this is what, libvirt? | 19:40 |
mdeslaur | since libvirt already build-deps on libgnutls-dev, I'm guessing the curl gnutls backend would be appropriate | 19:40 |
hallyn | mdeslaur: yeah libvirt, and gnutls is mentione din configure.ac, so i'm going with that - thanks | 19:43 |
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infinity | teward: Doing it in Debian rules based on dpkg-vendor is probably your best option. | 20:55 |
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* Snow-Man is really anxious for a new kernel which fixes #1404558. :( | 22:11 | |
infinity | Snow-Man: Test out the kernel in -proposed, pretty please? | 22:26 |
infinity | Snow-Man: Enable trusty-proposed, apt-get install linux-image-generic, disable proposed. | 22:27 |
Snow-Man | it was tested and confiirmed? | 22:27 |
infinity | Snow-Man: Since it seems to be an intermittent issue, more testing would be nice. | 22:27 |
infinity | Snow-Man: But stgraber's testing has been good. | 22:27 |
* Snow-Man sighs. | 22:28 | |
Snow-Man | having a bug that completely breaks ipv6 be released is pretty terrible and that it's taking this long to get it fixed is extremely frustrating. :( | 22:29 |
infinity | stgraber: It's been 5 more days since you commented, are you still confident that LP: #1404558 is fixed? | 22:31 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1404558 in linux (Ubuntu Trusty) "IPv6 related kernel panic following upgrade to 3.13.0-43" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1404558 | 22:31 |
infinity | Snow-Man: Our kernel SRU process really doesn't allow for rapid turnaround of every single patch and bugfix (we pull out all the stops and burn a lot of hours to do emergency security updates, but we can't push a new kernel every two days for every bug). | 22:32 |
infinity | Snow-Man: So, frustrating, yes, but the alternatives are worse. :/ | 22:32 |
Snow-Man | infinity: How about a bit more testing w/ ipv6 before releasing it to the masses? :/ | 22:33 |
infinity | Snow-Man: I'm all for that. Though, in this case, it seemed to need a 24h burn test w/ IPv6. Most testsuites are geared to testing specific functionality. | 22:34 |
Snow-Man | it definitely didn't take that long to trigger here | 22:34 |
infinity | Snow-Man: Not saying testing can't be improved, it always can be, but bugs happen. :( | 22:34 |
Snow-Man | it was more about the amount of ipv6 activity. | 22:35 |
stgraber | infinity: yep, still no kernel panic | 22:35 |
infinity | Snow-Man: Anyhow, based on stgraber's comment, and his lack of followup in 5 days, I'm assuming the -proposed kernel will make your machine happy. | 22:35 |
infinity | Snow-Man: Oh, and look, even better. :) | 22:35 |
infinity | stgraber: Thanks. | 22:35 |
Snow-Man | I'm going through and installing the kernel from proposed on my various VMs, but it'll take me a few hours to get it done. | 22:35 |
Snow-Man | I would have preferred to not deal with pulling in -proposed and then having to do another round of upgrades in the relative near-term, but it is what it is. | 22:36 |
infinity | Snow-Man: The testing versus reactive thing is a bit of a rock and a hard place. The reason the kernel in proposed isn't released yet is because we do a bunch of testing, and it's not all done yet. The reason the bug happened is because we need more testing, always. Never seems to be enough. | 22:36 |
Snow-Man | ugh. I dunno why, but v6 from the ubuntu mirrors isn't working out too well for me either atm. :/ | 22:38 |
stgraber | Snow-Man: us.archive ? | 22:38 |
Snow-Man | yes | 22:39 |
stgraber | Snow-Man: over an HE.net tunnel? | 22:39 |
Snow-Man | sixxs, but with an HE pop | 22:39 |
stgraber | ok, so yeah, known issue, it's been broken for over a week now | 22:40 |
stgraber | the route goes through Internap and they've got some bad config which drops everything on the floor at the moment | 22:40 |
Snow-Man | :( | 22:40 |
stgraber | there are Canonical, HE.net and Internap tickets open about the issue | 22:40 |
JanC | the problem with bugs that only happen "once in a while" is often that they may happen more often for one test environment than for another; they may happen once every minute for the user and once every month for the developer trying to fix it... :-/ | 22:42 |
pfsmorigo_ | is there a way to access shell directly when I do a ssh into the installation? | 22:46 |
pfsmorigo_ | ssh installer@ip shows me a menu directly | 22:46 |
sarnold | pfsmorigo_: try "ssh installer@ip /bin/bash" ? | 22:53 |
pfsmorigo_ | sarnold, nope, it still shows the meny | 22:54 |
pfsmorigo_ | *menu | 22:54 |
pfsmorigo_ | sarnold, maybe if I log as root@ | 22:55 |
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