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mappshm00:08
mappsquite a few eps behind on the flash now00:08
mappsgrmpf00:09
mapps;]01:33
mapps2 eps left of flash02:52
* zmoylan-pi puts on father ted03:25
mapps;]03:49
mappsim thinkingof watching either life after beth or guardians of the galaxy next03:49
* zmoylan-pi wonders what superduper features we can expect from windows 1004:53
lemaphm win10]05:05
lemapwin8 sucks enough...some reason my cursor just gets stuck randomly...everythung else will be working fine05:05
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zmoylan-piit used to be odd numbers of windows were the good ones but 2 even numbers in a row will throw that off05:08
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:19
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Myrttiyou know, it would be great if on Amazon Marketplace shops it would say in cat sized letters which country the goods are shipped from08:25
MyrttiBusiness Name: ULTRA TOP, Business Address: Leicester. Ships from: HONG DAMNIT KONG08:26
diddledanmorning08:56
knightwisehey diddledan08:56
knightwisehow are you man08:56
diddledanawake08:56
diddledan:-(08:56
diddledan:-p08:56
* knightwise has been playing around with crouton on the chromebook 08:57
knightwisea vain effort to get audio working08:57
knightwisealthough ... mumble seems to behave no08:59
knightwisew08:59
davmor2Morning all09:08
knightwisehey davmor209:08
davmor2popey: ubrick scope is fun09:10
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Hugging Day! :-D09:30
zmoylan-piduring flu season... what genius thought that one up? :-)09:32
knightwiseJamesTait: hugging day ?09:32
knightwiseWhy don't I work in a modeling agency or something09:32
JamesTaitProbably someone in the Southern hemisphere, zmoylan-pi. ;)09:33
zmoylan-pia face that looked like it was on fire and someone put it out with a shovel knightwise? :-P09:33
knightwisezmoylan-pi: you flatter me09:33
knightwisemaybe I have the body of a swimsuit model ?09:34
zmoylan-pimissed a word... steam shovel09:34
JamesTaitI'm home alone, knightwise. Apart from the cats. I could hug them.09:34
zmoylan-pihugging cats, isn't that an extreme sport?09:34
JamesTaitBut it could make tomorrow awkward: Answer Your Cat's Questions Day.09:34
diddledanknightwise, I've got the body of a swimsuit model. it is just hidden behind a bearish exteriour09:35
knightwisediddledan: grizly bear or pooh-bear09:36
diddledanknightwise, either?09:36
diddledan:-p09:36
* DJones hands diddledan Borat's mankini09:38
* DJones hands the rest of the channel some eye bleach09:39
* knightwise runs away screaming09:39
diddledanteehee09:39
* knightwise pokes eyes out with old rusty ISA-cards09:39
* zmoylan-pi passes around forks or chopsticks for channel to use to poke their eyes out hygenically09:40
* knightwise stops licking used toilet seats to say 'thank you'09:41
DJonesA couple fo years back, we were at a family news eve party & my wifes cousin turned up at the door (from the pub) dressed in one of those, I've never heard female aged relatives scream so much09:42
zmoylan-piwait till the year he forgets to wear it?09:42
* JamesTait shudders09:42
davmor2man JamesTait went with hug day so it sounds like people like him, I mean how does /me throws hugs at JamesTait sound the slightest bit scary :D  /me throws bears at JamesTait to hug him09:43
JamesTaitdavmor2, I was tempted by Squirrel Appreciation Day.09:44
mappshm09:44
mappsnadal gonna be out of the aus o already09:44
* zmoylan-pi continues plans to raise a squirrel army09:44
mappsO_o09:44
* davmor2 coats JamesTait and acorns and throws squirrels at him09:44
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* zmoylan-pi stuffs JamesTait in barrel and tops it off with angry squirrels before nailing on lid09:45
* DJones sets the Animal Liberation Front onto zmoylan-pi 09:46
* zmoylan-pi prepares a second barrel for alf. gets the rottweilers ready to top of barrel09:47
* JamesTait wonders who alf is.09:48
zmoylan-pianimal liberation front09:48
* JamesTait throws a shift key at zmoylan-pi. ;)09:50
DJonesThere's only one ALF09:50
DJoneshttps://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQgmtXvRPhPbzO_zg1vDoCLBBceOxZcRLio2RxxqLsL8IBJx02a09:50
* zmoylan-pi is shifty enough >_>09:50
czajkowskialoha09:50
czajkowskizmoylan-pi: hows the weather over there ?09:50
zmoylan-pisnow receding so no time for you to be travelling as no transport would be cancelled :-)09:51
czajkowskiI may have broken my curse of travelling to .ie I managed to get there this christmas with no delays!09:52
czajkowskinone!09:52
zmoylan-piit's a trap luring you into making bolder plans...09:52
diddledanI've seen people typing using the capslock key to get sentence case - i.e. the initial cap of a sentence09:53
diddledan*capslock, a, capslock, rest-of-sentence*09:53
JamesTaitdiddledan, my eldest son is one such person. :-/09:53
diddledanI wonder if they do ALF as *capslock, a, capslock, capslock, l, capslock, capslock, f, capslock*09:54
diddledanthat would mess with my head09:55
czajkowskizmoylan-pi: no more travel plans for the future for a while, bought a house so planning the big move09:55
* czajkowski firmly cements her roots in Surrey 09:56
* zmoylan-pi would love to see neighbours faces when they see chickens been brought in... :-P10:00
zmoylan-pimy uncle who kept pigeons AND chickens got a few looks when he moved10:02
czajkowskiyeah...10:05
czajkowskishall move them in under the cover of night :)10:05
zmoylan-piand let the dawn introduce them to a whole new experience :-D10:05
czajkowskithey're mostly ok tbh, there are the odd mornings when they're super noisy when they lay but not so much in the winter time10:05
czajkowskiwe only have 6 :)10:05
zmoylan-pigreat burgalar alarm, at least for my uncle10:06
czajkowskiBash nmakes more noise10:08
czajkowski:/10:08
Laneyczajkowski: congrats!10:08
czajkowskiLaney: thanks :)10:08
Laneyare you renting now?10:08
czajkowskibeen a busy few months10:08
czajkowskiyup10:08
Laneyfun fun10:09
czajkowskibut we've just bought in Godalming10:09
Laneywe just bought too10:09
czajkowskiso hoping to move in March10:09
czajkowskifingers crossed10:09
czajkowskiand at some point plan a wedding :)10:09
Laneyneed to get a man in to do $jobs, but I keep putting it off10:09
Laneyoh yeah that old thing :P10:09
czajkowskiLaney: aye we have a good few jobs to do, but thankfully Jons stepdad is a builder who does house renovations10:10
czajkowski:D10:10
Laneyconvenient or what!10:11
czajkowskidoes anyone use evolution and has calendar working nicely set up for exchange mail ?10:11
czajkowskiLaney: that was another reason to picking the house, we knew if we got it we could get stuff done10:11
zmoylan-piirish person with english builders... seems wrong somehow :-)10:11
czajkowskifor starters the entire house needs painting inside, an do that in a week once we hire one of his crew fo rht eweek10:11
czajkowskiand then do the place up bit by bit10:11
Laneynod10:12
LaneyI need to figure out the green deal shenanigans to get the last single glazed windows replaced10:12
Laneywhich includes the one in this office10:12
* Laney shivers10:12
czajkowskiyes all the windows need double glazing10:13
czajkowski:(10:13
czajkowskicannot wait to set up my office there10:13
Laneylook into this green deal home improvement fund10:13
czajkowskiliving on pinterest to get some ideas10:13
czajkowskiand houzz10:13
czajkowskiLaney: link?10:13
Laneyyou can get 1.5K ish grant for energy efficiency stuff10:13
Laneyhttps://www.gov.uk/green-deal-energy-saving-measures/get-money-back-from-the-green-deal-home-improvement-fund10:13
Laneyand you can use the EPC which you already have when buying the house instead of paying for a new assessment10:15
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knightwisesilly question , what if i would like to build a simple text menu in the command line to launch command line apps10:29
knightwiselike press 1 to launch irssi , 2 to launch wordgrinder etc.10:29
knightwiseare there any simple ways to do that ?10:29
czajkowskiLaney: nice10:30
czajkowskithanks10:30
Laneyneed to get off my bum and find out who to call10:31
diploknightwise, can do it with python etc building on ncurses10:35
diploI started playing with something myself for work a while ago10:35
popeyknightwise: http://www.tuxradar.com/content/code-project-build-ncurses-ui-python10:36
* knightwise is taking a lok10:36
diploheh was just about to link to that  :)10:36
knightwiselooks like something I can start with10:37
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Laneysnow's really coming down here11:29
popeyooh11:29
popey#uksnow11:29
popeyhttp://uksnowmap.com/11:30
popeynone here11:30
MooDoohello all11:32
knightwiseBelgium has sunny skies11:32
knightwisehey MooDoo11:32
Laneyeasing off already11:33
Laneyboo11:33
MooDoolook like but constant here11:33
MooDoolight not like11:33
MooDoooooo quite heavy now11:35
Laneylooks like MooDoo has a 5 minute snow lag on me ;-)11:37
* awilkins draws up the blind to do a snowcheck11:38
awilkinsSnow status zero11:39
bashrcstatus: snowing11:39
bashrclunchtime could be amusing11:40
awilkinsKickstarter hits $1.6M in less than 24 hours...11:41
awilkinsFor a card game.11:41
awilkinsThe power of a solid following on the web.11:41
awilkinsAt least they aren't going all "Star Citizen" and offering SUPER POWERED KITTEN CARDS for $2,500 apiece.11:42
knightwise*sigh*11:43
knightwisegetting a little tired of this cyber-begging11:43
popeycyber begging?11:43
bashrckickstarter is ok, but it's not something which could form a sustainable business model11:45
bashrcstatus: not snowing11:46
knightwisetrue. But all the patreon campains , this and that campains. I understand its a business model11:46
popeytrending towards 24M USD http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/elanlee/exploding-kittens/11:46
popeyknightwise: the other option being?11:47
bashrcI think patreon is a more sustainable thing, because it's like an ongoing subscription11:47
bashrcrather than just a one-off event11:47
popeyI mean, If you make video or other content and want to get paid (i.e. it be the sole source of income) what's your option?11:47
popeyAdverts? No good unless you have millions of followers like Yogscast or MKBHD11:47
popeypatreon is neat in that you can pick and choose what content you want to pay for and how much.11:48
knightwisepopey: don't know really ..11:48
awilkinsPatreon is OK for ongoing content (like journalism) but how do you get something like Star Citizen or Elite funded like that?11:48
popeyyou and I have the luxury of having a job which pays, and the content creation is a sideline.11:49
awilkins"Hey guys, we wrote 1,000 lines of C++ today! *thrills*"11:49
popeythats what kickstarter is for11:49
awilkinsExactly11:49
popeysee also that librem laptop11:49
MooDoopatreon works well, I sponsor and pay per video for a max amount11:49
popeyhttps://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-laptop11:49
popey98%11:49
knightwisepopey: i agree with you on that11:49
popeythey're going to hit their target11:49
popeywhich is awesome for them.11:49
awilkinsOoh, is that a really nice shiny metal unibody construction?11:50
knightwiseit IS a cool cardgame11:50
awilkinsMaybe kickstarters should have an upper limit11:51
awilkinsLike "The thing we are going to do will cost $10,000 to develop. Upper limit will be $40,000, because how much can you really polish a shiny diamond?"11:52
* awilkins is now snow-positive11:52
awilkinsOOh, 4k display on that Purism laptop11:53
awilkins£1,500 for a laptop that high end... but I bet the VAT in customs applies11:56
awilkins£1800 is pretty good11:57
awilkinsThat's with 16GB of RAM and the stupid-HD screen11:57
knightwisea 4K on a laotop ?11:58
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awilkins3840x216012:08
awilkinsOk, it's an 8k12:08
awilkinsIf the k means "thousand thousand pixels"12:08
bashrcok, they've added a uk keyboard option, so I think I'll try to get a librem laptop12:27
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bashrcmy troubles with starting my existing laptop (from cold) are ongoing12:27
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bigcalmGood morning peeps :)16:08
bigcalmHi intrbiz16:17
intrbizbigcalm: hello16:18
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* bigcalm heads off towards the LUG18:09
awilkins_Why can't rsync have a "this is clearly going much more slowly than it would take to transfer the rest of the file in boring old normal mode"18:45
awilkins_fallback mode18:45
awilkins_Watching it thrash CPU on the source box and transfer data at 8kB/s18:46
awilkins_On a 100Mb/s network segment18:46
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x86bitHi21:16
x86bitI need some help setting up my proftpd server, I cant seem to access it from out side my network21:16
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x86bit I need some help setting up my proftpd server, I cant seem to access it from out side my network21:33
ChunkzZanyone here have virgin media as their ISP?22:41
HemlockIm on sky but I know a little about virgin22:43
ChunkzZI need a new wireless router. I'm using a dlink 615 with my superhub (from virgin) but it keeps disconnecting etc on different devices so need a new wireless router. can you recommend any?22:44
ChunkzZI was looking at this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/29115152905322:45
ChunkzZwill that work with virgin? or do i need something like this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Netgear-WNDR3800-N600-Premium-WiFi-Wireless-N-Gigabit-Cable-Broadband-Router-/311213508015?pt=UK_Computing_Wireless_Routers&hash=item4875c545af22:47
popeyis your superhub in modem only mode?22:47
popey(if not, you should consider it)22:47
ChunkzZyeah it's in modem mode22:48
popeyI use a netgear wndr370022:48
popeybeen rock solid.22:48
popeyI put dd-wrt on mine22:48
ChunkzZyou with virgin?22:48
popeyyes22:49
HemlockLucky you guys can swap out your routers22:49
HemlockSky only let you use their shitty boxes22:49
popeyyeah, so i hear22:50
ChunkzZso I can use this? Netgear WNDR3800 N600 Premium WiFi Wireless-N Gigabit Cable Broadband Router22:50
popeymy vm actually went down an hour ago22:50
popeyonly for a few mins22:50
popeywhich is quite rare here22:50
ChunkzZthe d/c's is driving my family mad22:50
popeywhat exactly happens?22:50
ChunkzZon ipads and android it just disconnects22:50
popeywhat, the wifi?22:51
ChunkzZyeah22:51
popeyhow many neighbours also have wifi?22:51
ChunkzZa lot lol22:51
popeythere's a nice android app called wifi analyzer22:51
popeywhich lets you see what your neighbours have22:51
popeyand see what channel they're on22:51
popeyI moved my ones to another channel away from theirs22:51
shaunoI like to 'encourage' devices to use 5ghz where they can too22:52
shauno(there seems to be a whole lot less contention there)22:52
ChunkzZmy dlink 615 only supports 2.422:52
popeythe 3800 is the newer version of my 370022:53
popeyshould be fine22:53
popeydual band too, so does 2.4 and 522:53
shaunowell, it depends how many of your devices do 5 too, else it's a pretty useless suggestion.  but where usable, it's worth trying.  (and where not usable, easily ignored :)22:53
popeyi fiddled the firmware on mine to use channels above what the neighbours use :)22:55
popeythanks to MartijnVdS22:55
shaunoI guess he ain't kidding23:00
ali1234anyone ever used these lithium ion AA batteries in a project?23:03
ali1234you should be able to run a raspberry pi a+ for about 8 hours on two "AA" batteries with them23:06
ChunkzZpopey, just checked wifi analyzer and I was running on the same channel as my next door neighbours. changed it to 3 which no one else is running and it seems fine. could that of been causing it?23:10
popeyit doesnt help23:10
ChunkzZsaying that, I shall go ahead and buy the router one up from yours :) still, that'll do nicely with 2.4 and 5 :)23:10
popeyproblem is the channels overlap23:10
popeyas you see in the display in wifi analyzer23:10
popeyyeah, its a nice router23:10
ChunkzZI'll defo order it tomorrow. thanks! also, my dad is saying it's not disconnecting now.23:13
ChunkzZhis ipad would just randomly disconnect lol23:13
ChunkzZdamn neighbours23:13
popeyheh23:21
popeyGlad we could help!23:21
ChunkzZ:) you did, I'm grateful. now it's bed time................................................23:23

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