[07:40] <dholbach> good morning
[07:58] <dholbach> pleia2, elfy: so https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8DesktopIso suggests using "disks" for burning an ISO
[07:58] <dholbach> balloons, ^
[08:01] <elfy> morning dholbach :)
[08:11] <dholbach> hola dpm
[08:11] <dpm> morning dholbach
[08:17] <elfy> dholbach: thanks, that at least works from vivid, test will be from the other possibles :)
[08:17] <dholbach> excellent
[08:18] <dholbach> got the tip from seb128 :)
[08:20] <elfy> I guess that's installed in Ubuntu default - won't be in other flavours
[08:20] <elfy> but then neither is anything other than dd :D
[08:21] <dholbach> right :)
[08:22] <elfy> I didn't actually know you could do that with disks
[08:30] <dholbach> yeah, same here
[09:26] <elfy> dholbach: so that tool is one up on startup disk creator - it works from trusty :)
[09:26] <dholbach> yeehaw!
[09:26] <dholbach> now we just need to update all our docs /o\
[09:26] <dholbach> balloons, ^
[09:36] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:36] <elfy> morning czajkowski
[10:56] <dholbach> balloons, I don't know which pages should be updated
[10:56] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing probably?
[10:57] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingDevelopmentReleases
[10:57] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Testdrive
[10:57] <knome> dholbach, updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup yesterday
[10:58] <knome> but i got to run now, bbl
[10:58] <dholbach> ok, so http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu should probably be updated as well
[10:58] <dholbach> I'll start a discussion on ubuntu-devel@ about this
[12:21] <dholbach> dpm, do you have time tomorrow at 11 for a call with asac?
[12:21] <dpm> dholbach, yeah, definitely
[12:21] <dholbach> great
[16:19] <knome> dholbach, we'll probably have to describe parts of that in the wiki as well but sure, never hurts to update that; it's linked from the main download page for ubuntu too
[16:20] <knome> dholbach, the problems with SDC have been more or less weird, eg. if you create a vivid disk in trusty with it, the image won't boot
[16:20] <dholbach> right
[16:20] <dholbach> I'm no expert
[16:20] <knome> more on that on #ubuntu-quality
[16:20] <dholbach> I just felt that this needs discussion
[16:21] <knome> me neither, but i've heard about problems with it
[16:21] <dholbach> that's why I started a thread on ubuntu-devel@
[16:21] <dholbach> it'd be good to agree on something well-maintained together
[16:21] <dholbach> update docs and move on :)
[16:21] <knome> i've also heard people report that SDC and unetbootin work/don't work alternating release to release
[16:22] <knome> so yes, it would be very awesome if the documentation was fixed, but also SDC, so that it always worked
[16:22] <dholbach> elfy did some testing earlier
[16:22] <knome> yep
[16:22] <dholbach> SDC is?
[16:22] <knome> SDC = startup disk creator
[16:22] <dholbach> ah ok
[16:23] <knome> i've had successes and fails with it as well
[16:23] <knome> when it fails, i just use unetbootin (or the other way), but this can't be the way we tell people/testers to act :)
[16:24] <knome> but yeah, not complaining - i'm available for updating the wiki for this too when we have something laid out on a technical level that should just work (tm)
[16:25] <knome> brb
[16:48] <mhall119> knome: https://launchpad.net/planet-ubuntu has been created and the branch attached to it
[16:53] <knome> mhall119, great
[16:54] <knome> mhall119, while i'm at it, was there something else you wanted done re: the CSS ?
[16:55] <mhall119> knome: not me personally, I think this was all brought up because of some post overflowing to the right of the main column though
[16:55] <knome> mhall119, yep
[16:58] <knome> mhall119, there you go: https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/planet-ubuntu/prevent-image-overlap/+merge/247323
[17:03] <knome> mhall119, do you want an IS ticket for that?
[17:03] <mhall119> knome: not until it lands
[17:04] <knome> ok, but aren't the people approving/merging it the same people who push it to production? :)
[17:04] <knome> correct me if i'm wrong..
[17:04] <mhall119> knome: the web team (ant) will review/merge it, and then either he or you can file an RT for IS to push it
[17:05] <knome> ookay.
[17:53] <dholbach> all right - have a great rest of your day you hippies!
[17:53] <dholbach> see you tomorrow!
[17:54] <pleia2> later dholbach
[17:55] <dholbach> bye pleia2 :)
[18:05] <popey> \o/ hippies
[19:27] <jcastro> heya hippies
[19:27] <jcastro> I'd like to add things to find-a-task
[19:30] <pleia2> jcastro: https://github.com/ian-weisser/asknot
[19:31] <jcastro> ack, will try to PR something for this evening
[19:31] <pleia2> hm, there's also https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community-website
[19:31] <pleia2> ian-weisser: where should folks submit patches
[19:31] <pleia2> ?
[19:32] <pleia2> er
[19:32] <pleia2> https://code.launchpad.net/~ian-weisser/ubuntu-community-website/asknot-php
[19:39] <jcastro> this is for adding new tasks right?
[19:39] <jcastro> not like, working on asknot itself?
[19:40] <pleia2> the tasks are inline with the code
[19:40] <pleia2> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ian-weisser/ubuntu-community-website/asknot-php/view/head:/index.php
[19:52] <knome> pleia2, i was told to "tell people"
[19:52] <knome> jcastro, ^
[19:52] <pleia2> knome: bug report?
[19:52] <knome> it isn't maintained in a branch, the content in production is in a database
[19:52] <pleia2> derp
[19:52] <knome> bug report or ping mhall119 i guess
[19:52] <knome> yes
[19:52] <jcastro> k
[19:52] <knome> very
[20:02] <mhall119> pleia2: that branch isn't used, the data is in a Wordpress page so any editor of the website can add to it
[20:03] <mhall119> so I believe any member of ~ubuntu-community-website-admins can do it
[20:04] <knome> how's the code changes managed?
[20:04] <knome> is it a plugin or just a page template?
[20:05] <knome> how do people contribute to that/the CSS?
[20:06] <mhall119> knome: just a page template
[20:06] <mhall119> knome: the CSS is an uploaded media file. We might want to roll that into the theme branch though, as it shouldn't be updated as frequently and it's a bit of a hack to use WP's uploads for it
[20:07] <knome> yes...
[20:07] <knome> so the page template is maintained with the theme as well?
[20:07] <knome> where does that live?
[20:07] <mhall119> knome: the page uses the default template, nothing special about it for find-a-task
[20:08] <mhall119> the page's content is maintained through the Wordpress admin interface
[20:08] <mhall119> and it's that content that powers find-a-task
[20:08] <knome> is it echoing in here? :)
[20:08] <knome> i guess fair enough if the team managing it is big enough.. though currently, it's a bit hard to understand the scope of the tasks
[20:09] <knome> i mean, if only there was an index of all tasks and their destinations and description available...
[20:10] <mhall119> well....it's in the page source
[20:10] <knome> which is not publicly available
[20:11] <mhall119> ctrl+u
[20:11] <knome> and didn't you just say it is in the database? :)
[20:11] <pleia2> the browser page source
[20:11] <knome> well, right...
[20:19] <knome> eh, http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/quality/ is pointing to an nonexistent image file on facebook
[20:22] <pleia2> knome: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community-website/
[20:22] <pleia2> dholbach usually fixes things
[20:22] <knome> well bah,
[20:22] <pleia2> I watch it too so I can confirm bugs
[20:23] <knome> we need a bigger overhaul of the page at some time soon
[20:23] <knome> so it's probably not a biggie to have the fail for a few more days
[20:39] <hggdh> have you seen http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/219461 ?
[20:41] <balloons> knome, pleia2 I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community-website/+bug/1413739 to generally overhaul the section
[20:42]  * balloons noticed there is no bugbot here
[20:42] <knome> ask for one from Unit193
[20:52] <jcastro> popey, hey so, do you know anyone who's gone from btrfs raid to btrfs jbod (single)?
[20:54] <popey> uhm
[20:54] <popey> not that I can think of
[21:18]  * ian-weisser wakes up
[21:18] <ian-weisser> -snort-
[21:19] <balloons> ::yawn:: ian-weisser ?
[21:20] <ian-weisser> jcastro: mhall119 really just needs to know the four items you want to add for each Find-a-Task role: Category, Role name, Very short description, Landing URL.
[21:20] <jcastro> oh ok
[21:20] <jcastro> that's way easier
[21:20] <ian-weisser> Anyone with edit access to the community website can add it, but he's the one who has actually done it before.
[21:22] <balloons> ian-weisser, love find-a-task btw, thanks much for making it real
[21:22] <ian-weisser> mhall119 took the LP branch code and changed it to inside-wordpress content. So the branch is not used (marked 'rejected')
[21:22] <ian-weisser> balloons: Thx.
[21:23] <ian-weisser> For anyone tracking, find-a-task is *entirely* within the page source code. It's just HTML, not a database. However, the wordpress host stores that page in _it's_ database...which means Find-a-Task is non-searchable.
[21:25] <ian-weisser> (and it wasn't intended to be searchable)
[21:27] <ian-weisser> There is no master list of volunteer roles. The intent of Find-a-Task is that teams can add and delete and change roles as they need. It's a living job board.
[21:28] <ian-weisser> It merely lacks a lof of the job-board bureaucracy.
[21:29] <ian-weisser> Happy to see teams dropping by to add to it.
[21:29]  * ian-weisser nods off to sleep again
[21:49] <knome> well, just because i can...
[21:49] <knome> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9825362/
[21:50] <knome> there's a greasemonkey script that takes the find-a-task url and converts it into a list of all the tasks in the database
[22:10] <balloons> pleia2, your input here would be helpful too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing. I trust it makes the page easier
[22:13] <pleia2> balloons: thanks, I'll have a look this evening (and maybe add some things if you don't mind?)
[22:14] <balloons> pleia2, yes go for it. I consider what's there a rough cut. I tried to cut out the extraneous content and simplify it. It still needs work, so dive in
[22:16] <knome> working on many of the QA team wiki pages, i've noticed many of them has this weird, marketing-style speech that goes on and on... and then the heading promises that the content begins... and you'll have more marketing speak and a link to an external page which is million lines long and badly formatted
[22:16] <knome> that makes me sad :(
[22:17] <knome> (also see my recent comments on the -quality channel)
[22:26] <ian-weisser> knome: That is a fabulous greasemonkey script. Thanks for sharing.
[22:26] <knome> well, you're welcome
[22:26] <knome> but you can also not use it if you want to keep the tension.
[22:27] <knome> ;)
[22:27] <ian-weisser> I like the tension.
[22:27] <knome> getting it out like that is useful for several occasions
[22:27] <knome> for example, seeing and updating your own tasks
[22:27] <knome> or seeing what else is there to avoid duplicating with your tasks
[22:27] <knome> etc...
[22:28] <ian-weisser> The former is the one I was thinking of.
[22:46] <knome> also in a Gist: https://gist.github.com/knomepasi/08d651fa7f666c445f89
[23:05] <jose> jcastro: hey J, did Antonio get back to you on that email?