[07:40] good morning [07:58] pleia2, elfy: so https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8DesktopIso suggests using "disks" for burning an ISO [07:58] balloons, ^ [08:01] morning dholbach :) [08:11] hola dpm [08:11] morning dholbach [08:17] dholbach: thanks, that at least works from vivid, test will be from the other possibles :) [08:17] excellent [08:18] got the tip from seb128 :) [08:20] I guess that's installed in Ubuntu default - won't be in other flavours [08:20] but then neither is anything other than dd :D [08:21] right :) [08:22] I didn't actually know you could do that with disks [08:30] yeah, same here [09:26] dholbach: so that tool is one up on startup disk creator - it works from trusty :) [09:26] yeehaw! [09:26] now we just need to update all our docs /o\ [09:26] balloons, ^ [09:36] aloha [09:36] morning czajkowski [10:56] balloons, I don't know which pages should be updated [10:56] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing probably? [10:57] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingDevelopmentReleases [10:57] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Testdrive [10:57] dholbach, updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup yesterday [10:58] but i got to run now, bbl [10:58] ok, so http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu should probably be updated as well [10:58] I'll start a discussion on ubuntu-devel@ about this [12:21] dpm, do you have time tomorrow at 11 for a call with asac? [12:21] dholbach, yeah, definitely [12:21] great [16:19] dholbach, we'll probably have to describe parts of that in the wiki as well but sure, never hurts to update that; it's linked from the main download page for ubuntu too [16:20] dholbach, the problems with SDC have been more or less weird, eg. if you create a vivid disk in trusty with it, the image won't boot [16:20] right [16:20] I'm no expert [16:20] more on that on #ubuntu-quality [16:20] I just felt that this needs discussion [16:21] me neither, but i've heard about problems with it [16:21] that's why I started a thread on ubuntu-devel@ [16:21] it'd be good to agree on something well-maintained together [16:21] update docs and move on :) [16:21] i've also heard people report that SDC and unetbootin work/don't work alternating release to release [16:22] so yes, it would be very awesome if the documentation was fixed, but also SDC, so that it always worked [16:22] elfy did some testing earlier [16:22] yep [16:22] SDC is? [16:22] SDC = startup disk creator [16:22] ah ok [16:23] i've had successes and fails with it as well [16:23] when it fails, i just use unetbootin (or the other way), but this can't be the way we tell people/testers to act :) [16:24] but yeah, not complaining - i'm available for updating the wiki for this too when we have something laid out on a technical level that should just work (tm) [16:25] brb [16:48] knome: https://launchpad.net/planet-ubuntu has been created and the branch attached to it [16:53] mhall119, great [16:54] mhall119, while i'm at it, was there something else you wanted done re: the CSS ? [16:55] knome: not me personally, I think this was all brought up because of some post overflowing to the right of the main column though [16:55] mhall119, yep [16:58] mhall119, there you go: https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/planet-ubuntu/prevent-image-overlap/+merge/247323 [17:03] mhall119, do you want an IS ticket for that? [17:03] knome: not until it lands [17:04] ok, but aren't the people approving/merging it the same people who push it to production? :) [17:04] correct me if i'm wrong.. [17:04] knome: the web team (ant) will review/merge it, and then either he or you can file an RT for IS to push it [17:05] ookay. [17:53] all right - have a great rest of your day you hippies! [17:53] see you tomorrow! [17:54] later dholbach [17:55] bye pleia2 :) [18:05] \o/ hippies [19:27] heya hippies [19:27] I'd like to add things to find-a-task [19:30] jcastro: https://github.com/ian-weisser/asknot [19:31] ack, will try to PR something for this evening [19:31] hm, there's also https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community-website [19:31] ian-weisser: where should folks submit patches [19:31] ? [19:32] er [19:32] https://code.launchpad.net/~ian-weisser/ubuntu-community-website/asknot-php [19:39] this is for adding new tasks right? [19:39] not like, working on asknot itself? [19:40] the tasks are inline with the code [19:40] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ian-weisser/ubuntu-community-website/asknot-php/view/head:/index.php [19:52] pleia2, i was told to "tell people" [19:52] jcastro, ^ [19:52] knome: bug report? [19:52] it isn't maintained in a branch, the content in production is in a database [19:52] derp [19:52] bug report or ping mhall119 i guess [19:52] yes [19:52] k [19:52] very [20:02] pleia2: that branch isn't used, the data is in a Wordpress page so any editor of the website can add to it [20:03] so I believe any member of ~ubuntu-community-website-admins can do it [20:04] how's the code changes managed? [20:04] is it a plugin or just a page template? [20:05] how do people contribute to that/the CSS? [20:06] knome: just a page template [20:06] knome: the CSS is an uploaded media file. We might want to roll that into the theme branch though, as it shouldn't be updated as frequently and it's a bit of a hack to use WP's uploads for it [20:07] yes... [20:07] so the page template is maintained with the theme as well? [20:07] where does that live? [20:07] knome: the page uses the default template, nothing special about it for find-a-task [20:08] the page's content is maintained through the Wordpress admin interface [20:08] and it's that content that powers find-a-task [20:08] is it echoing in here? :) [20:08] i guess fair enough if the team managing it is big enough.. though currently, it's a bit hard to understand the scope of the tasks [20:09] i mean, if only there was an index of all tasks and their destinations and description available... [20:10] well....it's in the page source [20:10] which is not publicly available [20:11] ctrl+u [20:11] and didn't you just say it is in the database? :) [20:11] the browser page source [20:11] well, right... [20:19] eh, http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/quality/ is pointing to an nonexistent image file on facebook [20:22] knome: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community-website/ [20:22] dholbach usually fixes things [20:22] well bah, [20:22] I watch it too so I can confirm bugs [20:23] we need a bigger overhaul of the page at some time soon [20:23] so it's probably not a biggie to have the fail for a few more days [20:39] have you seen http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.misc/219461 ? [20:41] knome, pleia2 I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community-website/+bug/1413739 to generally overhaul the section [20:42] * balloons noticed there is no bugbot here [20:42] ask for one from Unit193 [20:52] popey, hey so, do you know anyone who's gone from btrfs raid to btrfs jbod (single)? [20:54] uhm [20:54] not that I can think of [21:18] * ian-weisser wakes up [21:18] -snort- [21:19] ::yawn:: ian-weisser ? [21:20] jcastro: mhall119 really just needs to know the four items you want to add for each Find-a-Task role: Category, Role name, Very short description, Landing URL. [21:20] oh ok [21:20] that's way easier [21:20] Anyone with edit access to the community website can add it, but he's the one who has actually done it before. [21:22] ian-weisser, love find-a-task btw, thanks much for making it real [21:22] mhall119 took the LP branch code and changed it to inside-wordpress content. So the branch is not used (marked 'rejected') [21:22] balloons: Thx. [21:23] For anyone tracking, find-a-task is *entirely* within the page source code. It's just HTML, not a database. However, the wordpress host stores that page in _it's_ database...which means Find-a-Task is non-searchable. [21:25] (and it wasn't intended to be searchable) [21:27] There is no master list of volunteer roles. The intent of Find-a-Task is that teams can add and delete and change roles as they need. It's a living job board. [21:28] It merely lacks a lof of the job-board bureaucracy. [21:29] Happy to see teams dropping by to add to it. [21:29] * ian-weisser nods off to sleep again [21:49] well, just because i can... [21:49] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9825362/ [21:50] there's a greasemonkey script that takes the find-a-task url and converts it into a list of all the tasks in the database [22:10] pleia2, your input here would be helpful too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing. I trust it makes the page easier [22:13] balloons: thanks, I'll have a look this evening (and maybe add some things if you don't mind?) [22:14] pleia2, yes go for it. I consider what's there a rough cut. I tried to cut out the extraneous content and simplify it. It still needs work, so dive in [22:16] working on many of the QA team wiki pages, i've noticed many of them has this weird, marketing-style speech that goes on and on... and then the heading promises that the content begins... and you'll have more marketing speak and a link to an external page which is million lines long and badly formatted [22:16] that makes me sad :( [22:17] (also see my recent comments on the -quality channel) [22:26] knome: That is a fabulous greasemonkey script. Thanks for sharing. [22:26] well, you're welcome [22:26] but you can also not use it if you want to keep the tension. [22:27] ;) [22:27] I like the tension. [22:27] getting it out like that is useful for several occasions [22:27] for example, seeing and updating your own tasks [22:27] or seeing what else is there to avoid duplicating with your tasks [22:27] etc... [22:28] The former is the one I was thinking of. [22:46] also in a Gist: https://gist.github.com/knomepasi/08d651fa7f666c445f89 [23:05] jcastro: hey J, did Antonio get back to you on that email?